New wheels Chris ? Lack of the mirror on other motorists, fiesta in the build up area white estate car he would have seen the blues. Nice run. Thanks again
It still amazes me at the number of people who drive blissfully unaware of vehicles around them, let alone those with lights and sirens going. Love your vids Chris, I honestly think your footage should be mandatory viewing for drivers on our roads.
@@Kevin-Nshouldn’t be driving if the mirrors are too dirty to see 20 blue beaming flashing lights right behind you. Nevermind the flashing high beams which should easily be noticed in the mirrors
I know it's been said before, but after the excellent driving the real skill starts when these guys get to the patient. About a year ago the team attended my wife when she had an (ultimately fatal) heart attack. They worked on her for hours, in the rain. One of the guys left his son's birthday party. They got her heart restarted and got her to ITU but she'd been without oxygen for too long. But she was able to fulfil her final wish, to be an organ donor so their efforts were not at all in vain. I'm so grateful for what you guys voluntarily do, thank you. God bless every one of you.
Whilst I got a nerdy lil kick from hearing you using the bullhorn at 6:00, obviously you'd rather not have to and for people to just use their mirrors! Loved that the lorry also took the liberty of using their much louder horn
@@ilikechickensausages2075I’d guess they were on their phone if anything. I think if they were just talking, at least one would here the siren five metres behind them
5:05 dunno what it looked like from your point of view but from what we could see on the left leading up to that moment it looked like that windows van driver had absolutely no excuse for not seeing the emergency vehicle and timing their approach to come in behind you, despite the emergency vehicle momentarily being behind other cars briefly.
At least the van driver at 8:10 put their foot down - but they had plenty of time to adjust their speed and let the emergency vehicle go first, unlike the windows van at 5:05 which from what I can see had no excuse for not adjusting to let the emergency vehicle go first instead of forcing it to take avoidance action.
@@Rroff2 there were also car drivers (a ford driver, a vauxhall driver and an audi driver) that had no idea of the emergency vehicle behind them and could have done better in their situation to let them through. Too many drivers of vans or cars just forget what is behind them or zone out and are oblivious to their surroundings.
great to see you back Chris! I have been driving for years but have learnt so much about how to react better to emergency vehicles since finding your channel a few months ago - your videos should be compulsory for every new driver. Looking forward to more content, thank you for all you do!
Anytime I hear a siren, I always look for it - even if it sounds a distance away. I will never understand anyone who doesn't hear the siren or see the blues! As a few have said, some are blissfully unaware of their surroundings and ordinarily these people will stay in the furthest lane of traffic and sit there. Drives me insane sometimes. As someone else has said, I think understanding these types of videos should be used in driver training because watching yours helped me understand what I should/shouldn't do when I hear/see the vehicles. Great upload as always, Chris.
It's not always the drivers fault (other than not checking their mirrors enough). I've not heard the sirens on emergency vehicles until they're right at the side of me (and i drive without the radio on). They're either way too quiet or buried in the engine behind a load of sound proofing.
Chris, always a pleasure watching your videos - from a fellow blue-light driver, excellent driving skills and love how patient you are with clearing junctions, overtaking and when making progress. It will never seize to surprise me that some drivers just don't bother looking in their mirrors or only look as far as their bonnet goes. Keep up the good work and thank you for everything you do!
Back in the Volvo. That Audi wasn’t going to move, some people deliberately try to block emergency services for God knows what reason. Great video thanks.
I remember watching another video of a driver who the hump so badly with being overtaken by said emergency vehicle they deliberately overtook them and tried to brake check them. I will NEVER understand this mentality! I bet though that some would be the first to complain (& demand compensation!!) if it was them/others in a situation and needed urgent attention!
Welcome back Chris. Such a pleasure to watch your videos and get my blue light fix lol. Hope you are doing well and looking after yourself. Thank you for all you guys do.
Nice driving, as usual. I so like seeing how you manouver the traffic, yet keeping good driving lines for speed. Oh, and all of that on the wrong side of the road. 😃
Welcome back brother! Again congratulions on being healthy again. On a side note, incredible ho many people will just come to a full stop in the middle of the road, blocking everything. I'm a dockworker, and those people would have learned a lot of new words if I was in your driving seat 😆
Should have points issued for inattentiveness. Sadly not a thing but come on, if you don't see a vehicle flashing blue lights behind you for 30 seconds, then you are not checking your mirrors often enough.
After a long delay, you have returned, Chris . . . and what did we learn today from your latest video? Yes, there are still too many Numpties allowed to drive on the roads without any due care or attention . . . 🙄😤
Good to see you back, Chris. Actually you flew past me on this run. Glad to say I got out of your way sharpish, so I don’t stand out in the clip! Actually said to wife “I know who’s driving that…” and then had to explain about your TH-cam channel😂
Excelent driving! But I was wondering if you could make a "tips and tricks" type of emergency vehicle driving video? I'm soon going to be finishing my paramedic's degree and I want to be an ambulance driver-paramedic, so any advice from you, who I think are an amazing first responder driver, would be much appreciated!
The camer basically turns its (virtual) head to avoid sudden turns. It makes it harder to get a feel for the actual vehicle maneuvering. For a while he used a camera with this disabled.
Thanks for the video 😇 Great drive! Also, it's not too annoying here but if you want to disable the camera swaying to the left or right when doing corners, you can turn off hypersmooth or auto stabilizer or something like that. Had the same with my Go Pro
I work for a vehicle manufacturer. Every countys order for emergency vehicle options is a little different. Eg some have speed limiters that are deactivated when the blues are on, some don't want that. Some want all the safe guards on all the time (low battery, no immobiliser, rev limits, radar braking). Others don't mind if it can brake itself if operated incorrectly. So mix in different brands and 3rd party work and I'm not surprised each operate a little differently.
5:35 unlike the oblivious Audi in front that probably shouldn’t have a license, that blue truck did very well to indicate right, see you and cancel it to let the Audi over. Unfortunately he was the only one there with any awareness
I've said it before: that type of siren is just not recognizable as a siren. If the long-range-siren would have been on at that point (like in ALL OF EUROPE except the UK), no way the car would have pulled out there...
This one is the 245hp diesel and def a little underwhelming compared to the v60 as that was (from memory) the b6 299 + hp spec'd up petrol so a world of difference.
Hi Chris it's interesting to see your driving, I drove Fire Engines for twenty years, maybe I didnt drive quite as fast as what you are doing but I do understand the facts about it. I was just wondering if it was possible to put the speed which you are traveling it would be interesting. If we reached sixty we would be sceeming, it was always hard work trying to get a pump through traffic. I have never had the pleasure to be able to drive a car at speed. Keep up the good work and stay safe. Cheers Paul, Retired West Yorkshire Fire Officer.
Out of interest, speed cameras, are the vehicles registered with the DVLA as response vehicles and when a VRN pops up for a response vehicle, the ticket is ignored? Or are they flashed regardless, just curious how it works!
Ticket is issued like any other road users. It then gets "sent back" essentially, on the grounds that someone with an exemption was responding to an event that required its use.
@@GaffaTV think that's why a lot of emergency response vehicles have a solid blue light in the middle of the light bar showing that the vehicles is a shout as for some the strobe timing is exactly the same as the flash speed so cam show up as just a response vehicle speeding. Although amazingly the Met don't have that setup which baffles me. 😂
That was an amazing drive, sir. If your medical skills are of a similar standard, you are an amazing individual. It’s just a pity that you have to deal with so many inattentive (stupid/careless) people on each blue light journey.
@Chris Martin EMS, Welcome back! What took you so long?🤣 Really missed your instructional videos. As ex MODit reminds me of my very basic advanced driving course in south Wales Great to see your videos always
Hi Chris, Quick question about markings on vehicles, Do you prefer the standard NHS ambulance marks, the unmarked but with lightbar, the fully unmarked or ones like the one you are driving in the video?
It's interesting to see this after seeing your videos from your new car, using the horn to switch between tones seems to make people hit their brakes in a more unpredictable fashion, as you said it sounds aggressive.
Chris, I was wondering, thought provoked from the tpac video, back when you drove your VRs, did you ever get pulled by police whether not on call, or on blues, (on grounds of impersonating), and if so, how did it play out, given you are obviously a paramedic. Have seen on tv on one of the many police programmes where some guy got pulled for impersonating, but what happens when you are genuine? Could be an interesting story, vid idea maybe?
In my opinion it's a lot to do with the sirens, they just aren't as loud as what were around 2007 or even older.... Here in Ireland in 2007, Focus, Mondeo were the main on the beat and you could tell it was coming, they were loud, now it hardly noticeable at all even out walking, think, inside new cars, all the sound proofing and radio, you hear nothing.... Worst sirens here are on the marked or unmarked armed units, they are embarrassing
5:51 Absolutely oblivious to you sitting behind them trying to make progress until the penny drops and they move over. People really do drive never looking further than the end of their bonnets or looking in mirrors. Baffles me how they function when not behind the wheel. 🤦🤷
Not a fan of the Volvo xc90 as a response car, the diesel is seriously underpowered for such a large car with a decent amount of kit on board. You can see the difference with the slick lines and in and out of traffic the Audi has
I know the route you've taken almost by heart, not the easyest to deal with in a normal drive, never mind running blues. And that's not because of road layout, but due to the amount of clueless drivers. The old roundabout cut on outside lane is almost a rule around Luton, even when there's literally no space for two vehicles on the exit. People just think it's their birth right to be in front
Think that XC90 needs to go back to the workshop because the horn activation hands-free siren toggle clearly isn’t working properly i.e poor electrical connection or the time interval for how long the horn needs to be pressed for is too long
Here's a tip. If you are on a roundabout and find yourself taking an exit that an emergency vehicle is taking just spin round the roundabout one more time and Keep Out of The Way. Where is the Audi estate.?
3 months is too long to leave us unsupervised, chris
Best comment on here by far
Agreed, a month is too long, let alone 3
New wheels Chris ? Lack of the mirror on other motorists, fiesta in the build up area white estate car he would have seen the blues. Nice run. Thanks again
Glad to see you back Chris love your videos
It still amazes me at the number of people who drive blissfully unaware of vehicles around them, let alone those with lights and sirens going.
Love your vids Chris, I honestly think your footage should be mandatory viewing for drivers on our roads.
It's usually loud volume from their speakers, dirty mirrors, etc.
@@Kevin-Nshouldn’t be driving if the mirrors are too dirty to see 20 blue beaming flashing lights right behind you. Nevermind the flashing high beams which should easily be noticed in the mirrors
@@Kevin-N From my experience it's usally either arrogance or ignorance. They see the lights or hear the sirens but just don't care.
the sad thing is these are the people who are more at risk of needing emergency services in their future
@ so true
I know it's been said before, but after the excellent driving the real skill starts when these guys get to the patient. About a year ago the team attended my wife when she had an (ultimately fatal) heart attack. They worked on her for hours, in the rain. One of the guys left his son's birthday party. They got her heart restarted and got her to ITU but she'd been without oxygen for too long. But she was able to fulfil her final wish, to be an organ donor so their efforts were not at all in vain. I'm so grateful for what you guys voluntarily do, thank you. God bless every one of you.
Sorry pal , not much else i can say . Take care 🙏
So sorry for your loss, massive credit to you for seeing the good in a bad situation. All the best.
Seeing you fly round roads I know like the back of my hand in every single video is just pure gold
Whilst I got a nerdy lil kick from hearing you using the bullhorn at 6:00, obviously you'd rather not have to and for people to just use their mirrors! Loved that the lorry also took the liberty of using their much louder horn
Yes, because the people in the SUV were too busy having a chit chat
@@ilikechickensausages2075I’d guess they were on their phone if anything. I think if they were just talking, at least one would here the siren five metres behind them
Sounded more like the lorry in Lane 1
Love the way the HGV driver helped out with the Audi. Not a big fan of the delayed turning of the camera but really good to see you back Chris
Happy to see you back, I hope your health continues to Improve.
5:05 dunno what it looked like from your point of view but from what we could see on the left leading up to that moment it looked like that windows van driver had absolutely no excuse for not seeing the emergency vehicle and timing their approach to come in behind you, despite the emergency vehicle momentarily being behind other cars briefly.
The van at 8:09 as well just racing to get Infront for some unknown reason
The amount of drivers that must see you but still pull out in front and those oblivious to their surroundings.
At least the van driver at 8:10 put their foot down - but they had plenty of time to adjust their speed and let the emergency vehicle go first, unlike the windows van at 5:05 which from what I can see had no excuse for not adjusting to let the emergency vehicle go first instead of forcing it to take avoidance action.
@@Rroff2 there were also car drivers (a ford driver, a vauxhall driver and an audi driver) that had no idea of the emergency vehicle behind them and could have done better in their situation to let them through.
Too many drivers of vans or cars just forget what is behind them or zone out and are oblivious to their surroundings.
You're back! Lets go! Hope things are going okay for you Chris!
great to see you back Chris! I have been driving for years but have learnt so much about how to react better to emergency vehicles since finding your channel a few months ago - your videos should be compulsory for every new driver. Looking forward to more content, thank you for all you do!
Anytime I hear a siren, I always look for it - even if it sounds a distance away. I will never understand anyone who doesn't hear the siren or see the blues! As a few have said, some are blissfully unaware of their surroundings and ordinarily these people will stay in the furthest lane of traffic and sit there. Drives me insane sometimes.
As someone else has said, I think understanding these types of videos should be used in driver training because watching yours helped me understand what I should/shouldn't do when I hear/see the vehicles.
Great upload as always, Chris.
It's not always the drivers fault (other than not checking their mirrors enough). I've not heard the sirens on emergency vehicles until they're right at the side of me (and i drive without the radio on). They're either way too quiet or buried in the engine behind a load of sound proofing.
Welcome Back Chris.
Chris, always a pleasure watching your videos - from a fellow blue-light driver, excellent driving skills and love how patient you are with clearing junctions, overtaking and when making progress. It will never seize to surprise me that some drivers just don't bother looking in their mirrors or only look as far as their bonnet goes. Keep up the good work and thank you for everything you do!
Happy to see you back
Glad you're back Chris
Back in the Volvo. That Audi wasn’t going to move, some people deliberately try to block emergency services for God knows what reason. Great video thanks.
I remember watching another video of a driver who the hump so badly with being overtaken by said emergency vehicle they deliberately overtook them and tried to brake check them. I will NEVER understand this mentality! I bet though that some would be the first to complain (& demand compensation!!) if it was them/others in a situation and needed urgent attention!
Thanks for continuing to upload, Chris - very pleased to see you back, I enjoy your videos immensely!
Lovely to see you back Chris - hope you're doing well
Impressed by how lively that National Express coach was.
*HONK*
Welcome back Chris. Such a pleasure to watch your videos and get my blue light fix lol. Hope you are doing well and looking after yourself. Thank you for all you guys do.
Anyone noticed at around 8.35 how far over the biker moved,good on you sir
I could feel the irritation when the tones wouldn’t change near the start 😂
Great to see you back Chris. 👍
this is incredibly interesting and i await every one of your videos. stay safe
It's good to see you back Chris.
Nice driving, as usual. I so like seeing how you manouver the traffic, yet keeping good driving lines for speed. Oh, and all of that on the wrong side of the road. 😃
Welcome back brother! Again congratulions on being healthy again.
On a side note, incredible ho many people will just come to a full stop in the middle of the road, blocking everything.
I'm a dockworker, and those people would have learned a lot of new words if I was in your driving seat 😆
Christ that Audi on the motorway, he was defo checking his rear view every 6-8 seconds 😂
The other vehicles beeping too (at 05:52) was quite telling. Inexcusable.
Should have points issued for inattentiveness. Sadly not a thing but come on, if you don't see a vehicle flashing blue lights behind you for 30 seconds, then you are not checking your mirrors often enough.
6-8 minutes maybe😂
It’s an Audi, they don’t have to care about anyone else. The entitlement goes with the car.
@@tomsixsix Driving without due care and attention possibly
Great to see you back. Love the video. ❤
Lovely tones of the NMA in the background...
Yay a new video! Good to see you back Chris :)
The master is back 👍🏎
How do you always come up with these amazing ideas? Never stop!
The king is back.
Welcome back Chris... I hope you're keeping well buddy. 👍
It amazes me that we have so few available qualified operators in this country that they have to drive this far to reach an emergency.
After a long delay, you have returned, Chris . . . and what did we learn today from your latest video? Yes, there are still too many Numpties allowed to drive on the roads without any due care or attention . . . 🙄😤
Welcome back! Hope your recovery is going well!
Let's go we're back! Looks like we're starting from Hitchin high Street!
Great driving as always.
What more needs said other than Audi. It just says it all.
Good timing Chris, daughter is just about to start her blue light course.
You have to have crazy patience for these drivers holding you up
Good to see you back.
Amazing video as always!
Good to see you back, Chris. Actually you flew past me on this run. Glad to say I got out of your way sharpish, so I don’t stand out in the clip! Actually said to wife “I know who’s driving that…” and then had to explain about your TH-cam channel😂
Excelent driving! But I was wondering if you could make a "tips and tricks" type of emergency vehicle driving video? I'm soon going to be finishing my paramedic's degree and I want to be an ambulance driver-paramedic, so any advice from you, who I think are an amazing first responder driver, would be much appreciated!
4:02 I honestly thought you were approaching the worlds biggest traffic jam
The image stabilisation left-right panning on the camera had me willing you round some of those tight corners
The camer basically turns its (virtual) head to avoid sudden turns. It makes it harder to get a feel for the actual vehicle maneuvering. For a while he used a camera with this disabled.
Thanks for the video 😇 Great drive!
Also, it's not too annoying here but if you want to disable the camera swaying to the left or right when doing corners, you can turn off hypersmooth or auto stabilizer or something like that. Had the same with my Go Pro
babe wake up chris martin posted
Find it unbelievable how so many drivers can't 1. See lights 2. Hear lights. 3. React to other road users... it's mind boggling
Very hard to hear light tbf... /s
@aidan5653 🙄🤣
5:05 - unbelievable the absolute obliviousness of some people
I work for a vehicle manufacturer. Every countys order for emergency vehicle options is a little different. Eg some have speed limiters that are deactivated when the blues are on, some don't want that. Some want all the safe guards on all the time (low battery, no immobiliser, rev limits, radar braking). Others don't mind if it can brake itself if operated incorrectly. So mix in different brands and 3rd party work and I'm not surprised each operate a little differently.
5:35 unlike the oblivious Audi in front that probably shouldn’t have a license, that blue truck did very well to indicate right, see you and cancel it to let the Audi over. Unfortunately he was the only one there with any awareness
1:07 This Ford driver should perhaps turn down the music some, and/or check mirrors every now and then.
@@dubious6718 actually he was in the correct lane. There are road marking at some point. Left lane for 1st exit only, right lane for exits 2 and 3.
@@dubious6718 Uhm, it's a roundabout, they don't have overtaking lanes..
I've said it before: that type of siren is just not recognizable as a siren. If the long-range-siren would have been on at that point (like in ALL OF EUROPE except the UK), no way the car would have pulled out there...
@@dubious6718I really hope you don’t have a license
@@Matty27 I clearly commented on the wrong Ford. 5:40 is the one I meant. (I know its not a Ford..)
You and your colleagues are a darn sight drivers than the police will ever be. GOOD LUCK
How’s the XC90 comparing to the lighter v60?
This one is the 245hp diesel and def a little underwhelming compared to the v60 as that was (from memory) the b6 299 + hp spec'd up petrol so a world of difference.
@ xc90 is probably able to carry more kit so I suppose that you have pros and cons for both cars
Hi Chris it's interesting to see your driving, I drove Fire Engines for twenty years, maybe I didnt drive quite as fast as what you are doing but I do understand the facts about it. I was just wondering if it was possible to put the speed which you are traveling it would be interesting. If we reached sixty we would be sceeming, it was always hard work trying to get a pump through traffic. I have never had the pleasure to be able to drive a car at speed. Keep up the good work and stay safe. Cheers Paul, Retired West Yorkshire Fire Officer.
Out of interest, speed cameras, are the vehicles registered with the DVLA as response vehicles and when a VRN pops up for a response vehicle, the ticket is ignored? Or are they flashed regardless, just curious how it works!
Ticket is issued like any other road users.
It then gets "sent back" essentially, on the grounds that someone with an exemption was responding to an event that required its use.
@@GaffaTV think that's why a lot of emergency response vehicles have a solid blue light in the middle of the light bar showing that the vehicles is a shout as for some the strobe timing is exactly the same as the flash speed so cam show up as just a response vehicle speeding. Although amazingly the Met don't have that setup which baffles me. 😂
That was an amazing drive, sir. If your medical skills are of a similar standard, you are an amazing individual. It’s just a pity that you have to deal with so many inattentive (stupid/careless) people on each blue light journey.
Back to sirens on the horn again?
I think your other camera angle was better. Glad to see you back making videos though
@Chris Martin EMS,
Welcome back! What took you so long?🤣
Really missed your instructional videos. As ex MODit reminds me of my very basic advanced driving course in south Wales
Great to see your videos always
Is that whelen justice lightbar?
A video on your day to day role would be great!
The amount of people that, despite hearing sirens and possibly seeing you, enter the roundabout anyway…
Quite surprised how quiet it is inside the car eith the two tone on.
That National Express coach didn't see you did he ?
Welcome back (:
Great to see you back in action; hope you are OK.
Is this a different vehicle? You have the horn beeps back.
Hi Chris, Quick question about markings on vehicles, Do you prefer the standard NHS ambulance marks, the unmarked but with lightbar, the fully unmarked or ones like the one you are driving in the video?
That Volvo is a bit more of a chunky mass to move around then the Audi / Skoda
Can you do a siren demo video as well please?
How long is your average shout to on scene time as a matter of interest?
5:53 Awesome Sirens
What is it with WVM? Do they think they're invincible or something?
I think you need to turn the volume up on the siren - got the feeling lots of people were unaware of you being there!
Yes going to mention that in the next video as it did seem very quiet.
Some drivers have the situational awareness of a potato.
Phones, audio books, blasting radios,or simply stupid
More like a mashed potato!
Seems like a bit more to effort to wrestle the XC90 around, compared to the previous vehicles
First time I've heard a crewmate with you. Are they a critical care paramedic? student? intrested to find out :)
3:07 Van in rh lane should have stayed staggered, but a bit awkward for knowing what the car in Lh lane was going to do.
Hi Chris, is the Audi of the run now?
What happened to ur Audi?
It's interesting to see this after seeing your videos from your new car, using the horn to switch between tones seems to make people hit their brakes in a more unpredictable fashion, as you said it sounds aggressive.
Chris, I was wondering, thought provoked from the tpac video, back when you drove your VRs, did you ever get pulled by police whether not on call, or on blues, (on grounds of impersonating), and if so, how did it play out, given you are obviously a paramedic.
Have seen on tv on one of the many police programmes where some guy got pulled for impersonating, but what happens when you are genuine?
Could be an interesting story, vid idea maybe?
It’s a shame they can’t map one of the steering wheel buttons to the siren change over rather than the horn. Must be able to rewire it somehow.
In my opinion it's a lot to do with the sirens, they just aren't as loud as what were around 2007 or even older....
Here in Ireland in 2007, Focus, Mondeo were the main on the beat and you could tell it was coming, they were loud, now it hardly noticeable at all even out walking, think, inside new cars, all the sound proofing and radio, you hear nothing....
Worst sirens here are on the marked or unmarked armed units, they are embarrassing
Really need loud air horns for highway to get the attention of some drivers (eg audi L067 XVA).
5:51 Absolutely oblivious to you sitting behind them trying to make progress until the penny drops and they move over. People really do drive never looking further than the end of their bonnets or looking in mirrors. Baffles me how they function when not behind the wheel. 🤦🤷
Not a fan of the Volvo xc90 as a response car, the diesel is seriously underpowered for such a large car with a decent amount of kit on board. You can see the difference with the slick lines and in and out of traffic the Audi has
Agreed and going to do a separate vid on pros and cons of each vehicle as i def prefer the Audi.
I know the route you've taken almost by heart, not the easyest to deal with in a normal drive, never mind running blues. And that's not because of road layout, but due to the amount of clueless drivers. The old roundabout cut on outside lane is almost a rule around Luton, even when there's literally no space for two vehicles on the exit. People just think it's their birth right to be in front
1:24 BACK OFF PEOPLE, THERE'S A EMERGENCY
Think that XC90 needs to go back to the workshop because the horn activation hands-free siren toggle clearly isn’t working properly i.e poor electrical connection or the time interval for how long the horn needs to be pressed for is too long
Good video. The turning of the camera is weird. I preffer a less stabilized image rather than losing the sense of where the car is facing to
It's not Audi, but it's good enough 😁
Here's a tip. If you are on a roundabout and find yourself taking an exit that an emergency vehicle is taking just spin round the roundabout one more time and Keep Out of The Way. Where is the Audi estate.?
some people are so frustrating
4:10 what the hell is that? it looks like a SEA of cars
Luton airport parking, one of those private companies where you hand over your keys and they pack 'em in.
@@shm5547 aah, that makes sense, thx
Local to that area. Why the heck are you having go drive that ridiculous amount of miles? Is there nobody nearer. ?