That was the most humble version of Leffen I have ever seen. I am glad to see him actually act more mature than what I remember of him. Kudos to him he might have just persuaded me to become a fan of his as well.
Agreed. The god-slayer narrative fits Leffen so much better than the sixth god narrative. He's not here to join the pantheon, he's here to take it apart.
Yeah lol, everyone here is arguing about how "he is still a major dick" or "he is still not a smash god" or whatever, and Im just here like, "I want his hair."
At first I thought Leffen was a bit arrogant and cocky, but now I actually think he's a decent guy. He just wants to play. Which is what everyone wants to do. I mean he made a mistake but we need to be able to forgive. So I don't think people should be writing him off as much as I see them doing. I mean he's not my favorite smasher but I don't count him out as being a good player and a decent person.
I love listening to Leffen's interviews - he keeps it real, and explains the specifics about his play and stuff. Plus he obviously really does take care of his zipboys :) good stuff dude!
No. He is good, no one can deny that, but he isn't humble and is every arrogant about it. He could be called, Satan(opposite of god) or Devil, or GodSlayer
Ok. Hold up. Putting $1000 on a match isn't arrogant, it's interesting. Leffen just laughed as he disrespected Chillen. Leffen also mocked people to their face after he won. That's not interesting.
William Powers Really? You don't think Mango challenging him to 1k match isn't arrogant? I have to disagree with you there my friend. I don't see Leffen as arrogant or rude at all.
A lot of history with Leffen but he's definitely a lot better now. He was banned for a year from tournaments because of his toxicity until he improved.
At least he improved lol. Present Leffen just gets hate because he's actually doing a lot better in the game. Or people are just grudge keeping kids. Honestly, yea he was hella toxic pre ban. Post ban, he's just some guy who goes to tourneys now with a kid lol.
Lil boi doesn't seem like such an ass now. But I will always think of him as the villain because it just feels right at this point. Leffen v. Mango will forever be my favorite to watch
I hate Leffen and all, but I've gotta admit he makes these tournaments even more interesting. He's the villain of the smash community and oddly I found myself rooting for him against Chillin and Mango.
As much entertainment as Leffen provides in terms of his trash talk and becoming a god etc, in the end I still can't shake the lingering feeling that it's a lot of excitement over a game. In the end, whether Leffen destroys Chillin or not, they still return to their lives of normal/average people, paying the bills, etc. It's an interesting contrast I think.
LOL @ Leffen being kind of glad to fall short of winning Apex because if he had won it he would not have had a good reason to quit his job. Live the dream, man!
i would not consider leffen a god, the gods were named because they dominated the scene for years and thats not leffen. i think he should coin the term god slayer. i dont think there should be any addition to the gods
I was never a HUGE HARDCORE fan of SSB. But after starting to watch the tournaments I seriously feel like playing A LOT more. I used to play SSBB AND SSBM back in the day. Gosh... 6 years ago? Now that I look at them, I played soooo poorly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like I wasn't doing ANYTHING, only spamming same attacks! Now that I have my WII U I feel like buying SSB WII U AND START PLAYING A LOT MORE!!!!!!!
If you are planning to buy smash 4 (wii u) because of how these players play you are going to be disappointed. The game play in the smash games are very different, brawl and smash wii u are pretty slow (even though, smash 4 is better) because they lack the technical part that makes melee look like it does in these videos. If you want to play as fast and exciting as you see these guys play get melee on a homebrew emulator for wii u or something
I thought Leffen was a real jerk at first but then this, so I take back everything I said about him. He's a great person who just wants to have fun at the game we all love
One thing i can say Leffen is that, good or bad, he owns up to his performance. The johns are few and far between with this man. At least from what I've seen.
He said he wasn't feeling like his best because he didn't get as much practice but he still felt confident he could win which is a valid way to feel. It wasn't like he was using that as an excuse for why he lost. That was just his mentality going in.
All you saying that Leffen is now a god, no he's not. A "god" of smash is a title which is restricted to the top 5 players of 2013 and 2014. Leffen can be the god slayer, but not a god.
We all know the five gods, but what about the next five? I have my own opinion, and hopefully we can discuss this like adults. Uncrowned 5: Leffen - The God Slayer had to be here. Not only has he beaten all five gods, but he has placed consistently high at a lot of EU and NA national tournaments. Also, his Fox is on point 99% of the time. Axe - Axe has some of the best mid-tier play of really any smasher. His Pikachu is one of the most entertaining to watch in the whole game, and it can do work against Spacies when he's on his game. Westballz - Kind of a rising star, this man is improving on a level I don't think I've ever seen. His Falco is getting to a point where I think he'd have a close match with PP or M2K, and he's only getting better. Wobbles - Say what you will about this one, but not only has this man remained one of the most consistent IC's, but he's also one of the absolute best at punishing Spacies. Only problem is he struggles in nationals in relation to others. aMSA - Here's the kicker. A YOSHI main, who came close to beating Mang0, and he has victories over M2K, he consistently punishes Spacies, and he has a lot of potential vs every other player. All while sporting a red YOSHI.
Yeah yeah that's pretty cool just two issues. 1. Wobbles doesn't play as much as before right, he's probably retiring because of work and stuff. 2. Where's hax? I know, he has kinda declined by going fox, but he's thinking on going back with falcon and claiming to be better than ever if he does, and i dont know if you have seen he's last mayor tourneys with falcon but he went pretty close to beat the gods and win.. And that was about 2 years ago, imagine now
RB OC hax severely injured his hands and is sorta out of commission at the moment as far as i know, hes obviously not bad but i don't think he's top 10 after that happening :(
Will only consider Leffen as a god ( or top 6) until he's won a major in America. Don't see how you guys can actually call him top 6 without winning a major in America. And just curious, how was Leffen considered to be Top 6 before Hax??? Is Hax just barely below that level or something?
The way I see Leffen is as a cockier version of Shadow. He tends to look down on people a lot and such, but when it comes down to it, he shows respect to people. It's just we pay attention more to his trashtalk rather than him. Coming from someone with an unbiased opinion of the swedish gamer I see before me, he seems like a pretty chill dude outside of the competitive scene.
How has no one commented on how insecure he is? The second he noticed the image of themselves (lower right hand corner he keeps looking at) you can tell he doesn't like what he sees.
Ok, I can't take it anymore...wth is this thing Leffen is always wearing? Super-thin, space-age, 20xx-lookin', off-centered-zipper, slight-baggy hoody...
All I hear are excuses. I don't want to hear this shit in an interview. Terrible content. The interviewer tried his best to connect with this robot thing though.
That was the most humble version of Leffen I have ever seen. I am glad to see him actually act more mature than what I remember of him. Kudos to him he might have just persuaded me to become a fan of his as well.
I do think of him as the villian still just like many others, but he is a pretty cool villain just like Vegeta in DBZ ;P
Bruce wayne. Word
WhosJohnGill Our boy Gary Oak
+WhosJohnGill to be 4 real i think that it is cool to have someone like TSM leffen in a pro league talking trash it makes the league fun
Thats what he wants you to think
Fuck the God title i'd rather go with God-Slayer, that shit's dope as fuck.
Agreed. The god-slayer narrative fits Leffen so much better than the sixth god narrative. He's not here to join the pantheon, he's here to take it apart.
Exactly. Even better. He's the villain we all need right now. :)
I agree
How bout "The Non-believer"
Bruh....
That one fits perfectly.
We need more people like Leffen in the world.
More dicks? Yeah, sure, there's plenty of them out there.
We don't really. One Leffen is good enough. Too many villains would end each other.
***** Have you read some of his twitter posts?
You spelled less wrong
***** lel
His hairs cool
Yeah lol, everyone here is arguing about how "he is still a major dick" or "he is still not a smash god" or whatever, and Im just here like, "I want his hair."
People call him cocky but he just has an extremely accurate self image. He's number six for a reason, he's really good
At first I thought Leffen was a bit arrogant and cocky, but now I actually think he's a decent guy. He just wants to play. Which is what everyone wants to do. I mean he made a mistake but we need to be able to forgive. So I don't think people should be writing him off as much as I see them doing. I mean he's not my favorite smasher but I don't count him out as being a good player and a decent person.
He's my favorite ATM. He is disrespectful, but that's why he's great! He talks big talk and can back it up
Mega Krookodile I hate the type of people that can talk big and back it up. It makes them seem like a threat.
Fieryvortex48 Because they are a threat...?
He is most certainly not a decent person
what do you mean he made a mistake? im new to the melee community sorry
This makes me feel like Leffen is actually a good guy who just embraces the villain role and uses his smack talk to assault opponents psychologically.
Hes a sociopath
I love listening to Leffen's interviews - he keeps it real, and explains the specifics about his play and stuff. Plus he obviously really does take care of his zipboys :) good stuff dude!
Between his showing at Paragon and Apex this year, I now see Leffen as one of the Gods of the game.
No. He is good, no one can deny that, but he isn't humble and is every arrogant about it. He could be called, Satan(opposite of god) or Devil, or GodSlayer
William Powers
He's arrogant? Who was the one who snidely proposed a $1,000 bet on winning a brackets game? Not Leffen!
Ok. Hold up. Putting $1000 on a match isn't arrogant, it's interesting. Leffen just laughed as he disrespected Chillen. Leffen also mocked people to their face after he won. That's not interesting.
William Powers
Really? You don't think Mango challenging him to 1k match isn't arrogant? I have to disagree with you there my friend. I don't see Leffen as arrogant or rude at all.
Well, most of the rest of the smash community does...so...
3:00 Really bizarre to see that Leffen put Armada AND Mang0 in a separate tier above Hbox.
Forgot about chillindude lol?
John is that you?
0:14 HOW CAN YOU DO ALL THESE INTERVIEWS? that killed me LMFAO!
Mango: Dude, I'm such a buster
Leffen: *Johns Johns Johns*
Isn't this the 1st time in forever that leffen actually went through a whole Tourney without getting 4 stocked by one of the gods? lol
IDC what anyone says dick or not .. when leffen was beating chillin and was laughing i found that funny as fuck and gave chillin the smackin
I never understood why people dislike leffen
A lot of history with Leffen but he's definitely a lot better now. He was banned for a year from tournaments because of his toxicity until he improved.
hes a dick
Just watch the game apex 2015 leffen vs chillindude. Definitely the most disrespectful game ever
Diego Salazar It was supposed to be disrespectful. The salty suite is supposed to be pure shit talk and disrespect.
At least he improved lol. Present Leffen just gets hate because he's actually doing a lot better in the game. Or people are just grudge keeping kids. Honestly, yea he was hella toxic pre ban. Post ban, he's just some guy who goes to tourneys now with a kid lol.
Leffen is Kratos
mango is the GOAT
where can i get that sweater leffens wearing?
8:10 tophs face when leffen says "I've been at the toilet for like an hour straight"
forgetfulfunctor1 Lol, I wondered if anyone else noticed that. I know he was tired but TMI.
Leffen is the Gary Oak of smash. He even looks like him
Leffen is the CM PUNK of the smash community
OMG yes
Leffen to PPMD, "I really wish my health was better so I could have been playing better", when PPMD literally stopped playing Melee for poor health.
And yet he made it to winners finals. All he does is say John's even to this day.
Lil boi doesn't seem like such an ass now. But I will always think of him as the villain because it just feels right at this point. Leffen v. Mango will forever be my favorite to watch
I hate Leffen and all, but I've gotta admit he makes these tournaments even more interesting. He's the villain of the smash community and oddly I found myself rooting for him against Chillin and Mango.
As much entertainment as Leffen provides in terms of his trash talk and becoming a god etc, in the end I still can't shake the lingering feeling that it's a lot of excitement over a game. In the end, whether Leffen destroys Chillin or not, they still return to their lives of normal/average people, paying the bills, etc. It's an interesting contrast I think.
Leffen's first comment is sympathy for Toph. He's not a bad guy, he just plays the heel
Leffen hasn't been playing long enough to be considered a god.
But he IS the godslayer.
What does leffen do outside of smash?
LOL @ Leffen being kind of glad to fall short of winning Apex because if he had won it he would not have had a good reason to quit his job. Live the dream, man!
no johns.
Ew does Toph rubs/picks his nose at 1:15 and puts whatever he got on his finger in his mouth at 1:19??? I noticed his switches hands though
is this revenge after mang0 got the leffen tag?
wheres the mango interview?
Leffen's body wasn't ready.
All aboard the Leffen train and Toph sounding like Dante Hicks from Clerks.. "I'm not even supposed to be here today!"
Mango, HBox, Armada, M2K, and PPMD should now be known as the Titans of Smash, and Leffen would be the new God to dethrone them.
Leffen is the Zarbon of competitive smash
Is there 6 gods now?
who are the smash gods? i know almost nothing about melee competitive scene?
KobraMeow
Mango, armada,ppmd,hungrybox,m2k
Jose Mendoza and now leffen :)
Jose Mendoza leffen is one now.
i would not consider leffen a god, the gods were named because they dominated the scene for years and thats not leffen. i think he should coin the term god slayer. i dont think there should be any addition to the gods
So far, I haven't seen a single comment like this: Leffen is the Kratos of Melee.
Decent or not, he played like a god. Keep scratching off that god list Leffen!
Did they end up putting 1000 on it?
yep lol mango's a buster
Leffen is Vegeta with a haircut.
I was never a HUGE HARDCORE fan of SSB. But after starting to watch the tournaments I seriously feel like playing A LOT more. I used to play SSBB AND SSBM back in the day. Gosh... 6 years ago? Now that I look at them, I played soooo poorly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like I wasn't doing ANYTHING, only spamming same attacks! Now that I have my WII U I feel like buying SSB WII U AND START PLAYING A LOT MORE!!!!!!!
If you are planning to buy smash 4 (wii u) because of how these players play you are going to be disappointed. The game play in the smash games are very different, brawl and smash wii u are pretty slow (even though, smash 4 is better) because they lack the technical part that makes melee look like it does in these videos. If you want to play as fast and exciting as you see these guys play get melee on a homebrew emulator for wii u or something
When is CLG Leffen happening?
My boy TSM Leffen c:
I thought Leffen was a real jerk at first but then this, so I take back everything I said about him. He's a great person who just wants to have fun at the game we all love
no, go read his twiiter
No johns
Evo's gonna explode this year. Holy shit.
I like how all these interviews are so in depth and then theres mang0 like, Yeah I fucked up.
Leffen is Giratina.
Its Leffen not Armada, fix the subtitles lol
When he wins a major like evo MLG or apex then he's a god for now he is just a slayer
???? Didn't he get banned xD?
Leffen, you lost because of whatever you were wearing that day, really, step up
Easy money
EEEAAASSSYSYYY MONAAAYYYYYYYY-Bizzarro Flame
Wilfred Fegelein It should be a meme.
It is a meme
Re-l Mayer IT'S A MEME YOU DIP
Too bad you didn't win WF or LF. Good luck at later tourneys!
Leffen plays Yoshi? :D
He used to main Yoshi
Leffen you still kicked some ass though!
idk why everyone feels the need to tell us their opinion about leffen, especially when everyone's saying the same thing
Hey Leffen, good job...but remember... No johns
Leffen is definitely top 6 now. I just hate that he makes so many damn excuses... He did the same thing after paragon.
He has to win a tourney when all the "gods" are there then he will be in the Talk for a god
Nice Johns, Leffen.
One thing i can say Leffen is that, good or bad, he owns up to his performance. The johns are few and far between with this man. At least from what I've seen.
The johns are.... few? The first part of this interview is packed with johns haha
He said he wasn't feeling like his best because he didn't get as much practice but he still felt confident he could win which is a valid way to feel. It wasn't like he was using that as an excuse for why he lost. That was just his mentality going in.
wtf was leffen wearing? xD
john
Leffen needs to become sponsored, by Evil Geniuses. IDK Just super saiyin'.
All you saying that Leffen is now a god, no he's not. A "god" of smash is a title which is restricted to the top 5 players of 2013 and 2014. Leffen can be the god slayer, but not a god.
We all know the five gods, but what about the next five? I have my own opinion, and hopefully we can discuss this like adults.
Uncrowned 5:
Leffen - The God Slayer had to be here. Not only has he beaten all five gods, but he has placed consistently high at a lot of EU and NA national tournaments. Also, his Fox is on point 99% of the time.
Axe - Axe has some of the best mid-tier play of really any smasher. His Pikachu is one of the most entertaining to watch in the whole game, and it can do work against Spacies when he's on his game.
Westballz - Kind of a rising star, this man is improving on a level I don't think I've ever seen. His Falco is getting to a point where I think he'd have a close match with PP or M2K, and he's only getting better.
Wobbles - Say what you will about this one, but not only has this man remained one of the most consistent IC's, but he's also one of the absolute best at punishing Spacies. Only problem is he struggles in nationals in relation to others.
aMSA - Here's the kicker. A YOSHI main, who came close to beating Mang0, and he has victories over M2K, he consistently punishes Spacies, and he has a lot of potential vs every other player. All while sporting a red YOSHI.
Yeah yeah that's pretty cool just two issues. 1. Wobbles doesn't play as much as before right, he's probably retiring because of work and stuff. 2. Where's hax? I know, he has kinda declined by going fox, but he's thinking on going back with falcon and claiming to be better than ever if he does, and i dont know if you have seen he's last mayor tourneys with falcon but he went pretty close to beat the gods and win.. And that was about 2 years ago, imagine now
RB OC hax severely injured his hands and is sorta out of commission at the moment as far as i know, hes obviously not bad but i don't think he's top 10 after that happening :(
Christopher Castle D: goddammit. Well if he gets better and he can keep playing like before I'm sure he is. btw what happened to him exactly? wth
I honestly don't really know, I think he tweeted about it
I dont look at no other man as a god dafuq
Will only consider Leffen as a god ( or top 6) until he's won a major in America. Don't see how you guys can actually call him top 6 without winning a major in America. And just curious, how was Leffen considered to be Top 6 before Hax??? Is Hax just barely below that level or something?
Does he have acne scars or herpes?
JOHNS
god what a johner
johning...
Biggest disappointment of Apex2015 for Leffen: couldn't get in enough selfies. I couldn't stop laughing when he mentioned the selfies, lol
wheres this niqqa toph from he sounds like hes from the bay area lol
toph looks like the onesler lmao
The way I see Leffen is as a cockier version of Shadow. He tends to look down on people a lot and such, but when it comes down to it, he shows respect to people. It's just we pay attention more to his trashtalk rather than him. Coming from someone with an unbiased opinion of the swedish gamer I see before me, he seems like a pretty chill dude outside of the competitive scene.
How has no one commented on how insecure he is? The second he noticed the image of themselves (lower right hand corner he keeps looking at) you can tell he doesn't like what he sees.
KIRA!
Jooohns
Plup
Leffen johnsing so hard.
To be honest I'd put leffen top 5, and make hungrybox top 6. Player wise, he's definitely better than hbox.
ZIPBOYS
Mango was right
That sweater thing Leffen wears is fuckin' weird
Awesome player to watch though
Z I P B O Y S
.muumunp
yyyeeeaaahhhh
NO JOHNS LEFFEN
good interview until leffen johned his ass off about feeling so shitty the whole tourney after he played the best he ever has
Ok, I can't take it anymore...wth is this thing Leffen is always wearing? Super-thin, space-age, 20xx-lookin', off-centered-zipper, slight-baggy hoody...
All I hear are excuses. I don't want to hear this shit in an interview. Terrible content. The interviewer tried his best to connect with this robot thing though.