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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ม.ค. 2015
- This is taken from the post-tournament interviews after Paragon 2015! (taken from twitch.tv/vgbootcamp specifically) Leffen is talking about the Salty Suite set coming up at Apex 2015 between himself and Chillindude, a FT5 $100 money match where the default color they both use will also be put on the line.
Sorry Chillinman123 and anyone who actually still thinks he has any sort of chance, sometimes the truth hurts.
leffen is the Gary Oak of melee
even looks like him too.
SMELL YA LATER!
That's probably the best description to ever be said of Leffen.
Charlie Chuckles Leffen is Kagami from Kuroko no Basket.
You're a genius
This is what the smash community needs. A full blown villain that can talk and back up every word he is saying.
Leffen is a cool guy or something but he's a jerk
Thats not the point i am trying to get at. If there were no instigators in the smash scene like leffen and a few others. there would be no hype in any matches. We need Amazing players like leffen and Mango to have rivelry of sorts to create exitement.
***** THE JOHNS THO
Leffen was tired too. What, do you think Europeans don't sleep or something? Leffen straight-up is able to play at the level of the gods, and just because you don't like his attitude you start making excuses for why he beats other players? Weak sauce.
*****
Are you honestly trying to pull a "they were tired" excuse, when Leffen was up earlier than Mango(he went up early for teams, so he would be on time, yet the first match wasn't until a full hour after the supposed time because Mango, lucky and Ice were late),
+Ernesto Ledesma OMFG whos better leffen or mango
D1's reactions to leffens statements are priceless
His face is like "Oh. Fuck. Rip Chillin."
This is the most godlike, truthful trash talk ever. Sorry Chillin, there's not much you can do. I like how Leffen tries to not to be a jerk, but gives up trying not to like within the first 10 seconds.
Leffen d**krider.
GimR's laughing in the background makes this all the funnier.
"I'm not firing a shot" um, Leffen, this entire video could just be called "Shots Fired by Leffen"
***** It kinda is in this case lol
Zeppelin thats the point
chillin is firing shots for the sake of firing shots
leffen is firing shots because he's actually right
Nah man, he just emptied his whole magazine..
I thought Leffen fired shots first, and then Chillen told him to shut up? Idk, I probably forget.
Leffen is probably telling the truth, he's definitely a considerably better player than Chillin; however he said it in a very aggressive, insensitive and exaggerated way. Which is why it's still an insult/shot even if it's the truth.
He was right, he beat Chillin 5-0
"My B"
"My B"
his B
too bad leffen had to get banned from smash in order to train for this one moment. .-.
Yep, I saw the My B comment, too.
"My B."
Whenever I go back and watch this, I can't help but think. This man was right.
That face D1 makes. "Nobody is saying, 'gee, hope you win Apex, Chillin'. Wonder why?". Oooooooh...
And 5 years later, it turned out that d1 was the real villain here...
is there something I'm missing?
valentino de la pena the allegations
@@valentinodelapena7699 LOL def something ur missing bro
valentino de la pena not really tbh. Just a bunch of kids on twitter ruining someone’s life who has not been found guilty of evidence. If you have a brain don’t be part of it
@John De Tombe Not really. A woman claimed D1 r*ped her. He said he had no memory of that and that MVD could back him up on that. MVD said it’s all bullshit and he does remember and showed proof he did it. D1 didn’t answer back probably because he did something illegal and now everyone knows it.
There is proof, and multiple witnesses so stfu.
This is Leffen:
EEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAASYYY MONAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
It's more like
Leffen: Meh. Free money.
***** more like
"My b"
Doing bizzarro proud
Leffen's statement was not but a prophecy alone, it was also a curse on his own head.
He demanded too much of the Smash gods, and in turn part of his prophecy for Chillin's fate was cast upon him. Yes, Chillin was indeed 5-0'd, but the treacherous fatality at the hands of a Samus, fell unto Leffen instead.
Makes a lot of sense, underrsated comment
wow this comment didn't age well fam
An epic if I've ever heard one
@@westong6819 explain
god-tier melee player
god-tier shittalker
I like mushrooms too
Solarwolf13 lmao
MJ is a known shit-talker, and he backs it up as well
God tier manipulator
Sad but true. Chillin has been playing for 10+ years and hasn't won jack shit.
Lol
He still brings up beating ken 12 years ago
Captain Olimar I know right, he beat him once and he acts so smug about it...
Ghostaey He still loses to Azen and he hasn't even been playing for years. 😂😂😂😂 smh chillin just retire
Captain Olimar Lmao
The irony though. "loses to another samus"
+Likerhater3 and another one
+Likerhater3 Is this the only thing you pay attention to?
Did you know that he talked about chillin' in the video :)
Xetroz sure, he made fun of him saying that he'd probably lose to another samus, and just look at leffen lost to 3 of them
Xetroz I know he's talking about Chillin. I just thought it was funny that Leffen keeps losing to Samus in the big tournaments meaning he is still shaky in the Samus match up.
+Likerhater3 keeps losing to slamites
Man watching this isn't the same now
Oh ye I get it
it is
@@pIayingwithmahwii He is a manipulator.
@@user-s9eu8ce9fw who?
Am i the only american who admires leffen? this guy is fucking awesome.
***** The guy has an ego but he also has a healthy perspective,he is precise and he is a underdog.
I love him man, he's cocky but he has all reason to be. It's good for the community as well.
Top tier money
They consider him to be a God... NOT EVEN CLOSE. HE IS SATAN!
i wasnt around for when he got banned and shit, but him now isn't really that bad compared to other scenes. especially this whole chillindude "rivalry", chillin has come across as just as much of a douchebag as you could say leffen has.
no way leffen just predicted the future
I wouldn't say "predicted" .. he was more just being honest. it was obvious chillin was falling off
It was a joke -_-
So basically what you're telling me is that your joke was THAT bad
Sushi cat, you're being a bigger douche than Leffen
@@sushicat393 Quit lying to yourself. He was never honest.
"because your probably going to lose to another samus" fast forward to evo 2015 lol
+otaku master You're*
lol thank u you*
+Skyrux Geez, wut wuld we do without u, skyruckz.
Totally Not Jon Thank me later
that was a close set. you cant really say anything about that
Thank you based leffen for bringing hype to our humble community. That interview was like something out of a WWE promo.
Damnnnn D1, I just can’t believe it ....
what you cant believe that he didnt do anything and he hasnt been proven to have done anything wrong?
yeah i cant believe it either
John De Tombe clearly not fool
@@John-nk3ej this did not age well...
@@roadman6367 really? because I made the comment a day ago.
Tell me, what exactly did he do? get drunk and have sex with someone else whos drunk?
sorry she regrets it i guess? no need to ruin an innocent man's life.
you all are just bandwagoners with no concept of the law or justice, all you know is twitter.
grow up and join reality.
@@TriopsTrilobite it's allegations.
no court, no lawyers, nothing. just online allegations. get a brain fool.
also the allegations are barely anything lmfao, she just regrets getting drunk and having sex, sucks, everyone makes mistakes.
justice for D1.
It's so interesting to see such a villain in the smash community. It's cool to see leffen here, too!
Is that a D1 cancel joke? Apparently he's been cleared
How the fuck did Leffen know it was gonna be 5-0???
Leffen is a truly a super villain
+rafael502 there really is a huge skill gap between them
Saying Chillin is better than leffen is like saying Yamcha is stronger than whis and beerus
+legend of sonic DAMN BRO
+rafael502 BECAUSE MDVA IS FREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
Lose to a samus? I wonder if Leffen knows what that's like?
LEFFEN CLAIMS HE WILL BRUTALLY SACRIFICE CHILLEN TO THE SMASH GODS
he did
"my b"
This is why i like leffen, he trash talks and backs up what he says, in my opinion he is the sixth smash god
+Neoghouls Cyberdragon Mew2king 6-0'd him with 3 different characters
i never said he was the best of the smah gods, I said that leffen should be the sixth smash god.
+Neoghouls Cyberdragon He got no right to a smash god. No offense to a good player, but when ever he faces any of the real smash pros when they're on their game. He loses, and horribly bad like Armada and Mewtwo. If he was playing back in day, he would just be another lost soul to the fame of the gods. Not only that, but he also gives up when ever things go badly. Smash gods get hype for the great games they make. He makes a few ,but mostly he has no comebacks.
everyone has there opinions, I am not trying to argue, just saying me opinion
+gibbyboy66 you realize armada has been 6-0'd by leffen right? Does that make armada not a god?
0:57 - 1:16 That burned cut deep into Chillin soul DAAAYUUUUM!
It's official, I have become a leffen fan after this past week.
Leffen is just amazing; he's the player the Smash Community was missing.
i agree :D i like leffen
he is the evil villain
Imagine calling yourself a fan of this nascasist. That's not something you should be bragging about. It's like saying you a proud to be a furry or a brony. LMFAO! Do yourself a favour, go outside your house and touch some grass.
A slanderer
Shoutouts to the guy doin the screeches in the background every time Leffen dropped a reality check, made the interview for me.
Before Salty Suite...
"Leffen is going to get REKT!!!"
After Salty Suite...
"Holy shit Leffen did it..."
It's so sad to see a leffen stan attempt to paint leffen into a good picture.
@@user-s9eu8ce9fw Leffen haters mad, can't take trash talk
@@brycegriffin3739 Shut up narcassist enabler. Stop being a sperg for once.
@@user-s9eu8ce9fw Aw sorry buddy didn't mean to hurt your little feelings
@@brycegriffin3739 Ironic coming from the guy who calls me a leffen hater.
Love Gimr's laugh and catcall when Leffen talks about Chillin's Apex result.
Gimr laughing in the background is so great
D1's face throughout this entire video. My sides have left orbit.
No one should deny his skill. To me, he is better than Chillin and will likely win that MM. However, if you saw the full video after Paragon, it's also apparent that when it comes to Smash, Leffen is a complete narcissist.
I did watch the whole thing and I got the opposite impression.
this kind of rivalry is good for the community man..don't take what he says to heart yo
It's not even about his rivalry with Chillin. When they were talking about Paragon, all Leffen kept coming back to was how if it was him in gf, he beats HBox. In comparison to HBox and M2K interviews, Leffen came off very poorly IMO. Love his desire to be the best, love his play, dislike his attitude. That's just me.
RedSands
I mean honestly during m2k vs leffen you could see Hbox in the back cheering for m2k to win because he obviously does not want to go against a well versed fox..Leffen would have probably taken it against jiggly
TheMisterYassin YO MAN YOUR PIC SCARED THE HELL OUT OF ME ALSO NICE NAME MAN!
The "I hope you win Apex" line killed me xD
hahah, I actually love how brutally honest he is. People may say he's an asshole or whatever but Leffen is one of my favorite players. Like why would Chillin train just for Leffen when he should try to win a major in which Mango, PPMD, Armada, M2K, HBox are at. Leffen doesn't waste his time training against chillin or other irrelevant players like Hugs, Ken, Colbol, even Westballz, Pewpewu, and Axe. He only studies the Gods cause they are the only ones with a shot to win a major so he studies them.
ExilixE and then he loses to another samus because he underestimated them :^)
Kinda late, buuuuut....
And then he proceeds to lose against Axe in Winner's Finals of Smash Summit 8 and claims, "I didn't win because I was rusty."
Really? You, the supposed Godslayer of Smash? Rusty?
You call that brutally honest, I call it poor sportsmanship. Leffen is a chump.
Holy shit I love Leffen's interviews the most.
Gimr the shit disturber.
Chillin is probably doing this for his publicity. Apparently his stream has become a lot more popular since this money match thing started to arise. Even if Chillin loses the money match, his stream will have way more people watching, benefitting him in the long run.
this is looking like a body bag dot zip. ZIP EM UP
To put it in girl terms, leffen is goals. To be able to say what youre going to do and then go out and do it is what separates a cocky troll from a legend
He's not a legend. What is this cringy simp sh*t? He is a manipulative pos.
*"If I said I wasn't good you know I was lying"*
-Leffen
-Bruce Lee ,Correction for OP
Why are you treating this manipulative narcassist as a god? Stop enabling his ego.
@@user-s9eu8ce9fw god slayer with god complex?
@@bailujen8052 Oh f*** off. You keep enabling his behaviour.
Chillin has to practice with more than a drunk Azen. Azen just doesn't have new school fox tech skill so he doesn't prepare chillin for leffen even when he's sober. I think leffen goes kinda far on trash talking sometimes, but overall, he has the mindset of a winner
I really want to know what leffen would have said if gimr brought up m2k instead of chillin.
Damn Chillindude vs Leffen was really almost a decade ago...
Mad
I just love D1's face through this entire part of Leffen's interview x'D
Everybody loves a villian, and Leffen fits the role perfectly.
By helping Jisu with her false allegations against ZeRo
Goes on to beat Chillin 5-0, later wins more majors including Evo. This man can shit talk all he wants!
You know, as harsh as it sounds. I feel like there is a lot of wisdom in Leffen's words. It's the first time, I thought about it that way. But how do you beat someone? If you want to beat someone? What do you have to do? You have to practice and aim to surpass them, not just beat them. Think bigger, aim higher, and all the people who aim lower will naturally fall behind. I wonder if that's like a Swedish proverb or something. I still feel bad for Chillin to a degree. I heard he fired some pretty heavy shots at Leffen himself. But, I hope this wake's Chillen up. Don't be so short sighted. Don't train for Leffen, train for #1. Because that's what Leffen is aiming for.
Good luck to both :)
I love how Leffen is the absolutely MOST cocky a person can possibly be
"My B"
TheRealSpellstar There's a difference between cocky and being right. He was right about 5-0ing Chillen.
people seem to think that they are mutually exclusive, when they're not, even if someone is right, one can still be humble about it
TheRealSpellstar It's the salty suite and Leffen doesn't even care all that much. Chillen IS the one that started it.
What happened between ChillenDude and Leffen is irrelevant, all I care about is how much I love the villain character that Leffen has become
as much as i think chillin is awesome, i fucking love this shit. in the wise words of wife; "it's exciting, it gives life a little flavour."
Leffen's focus is on an evasive laser-heavy punish game Fox, with most notable characteristics being very light but very smart shield pressure with occasional repetitive strings favored over mixup strings. He specializes in evasive lasers into nairshine grab or running shinegrab conversions and lots of clean jc grab openers. His bread and butter is tech chase up Smash/backair/downtilt into Nair usually against spacies from what I can immediately recall, and this usually leads to bottom left/bottom right platform tech chases on the tri platform stages. From this he will go for more knockdowns, and is generally very consistent in continuing this 50/50 scenario and generally punishing well on true reaction. Here's the problem. This style is not technical, it lacks real hard pressure, and it utilizes the strategies that Chillindude has encountered the most in his MANY years of Melee : punishing obvious options with hard reads or some form of lite option select. Chillindude has been playing to varying degrees of success against the best campy foxes in the world since Mew2king was at his prime. He has taken RECENT sets off of both of Mango's (NTSC) spacies (which aren't campy, but are considered best in class), as well as all of M2k's main characters (at one point or another, he plays some of them so inconsistently now). Chillin is known for his Fox on Fox punishes (but really so is Leffen). Despite his basis in true fundamentals, Chillin also has expanded his technical/pressure arsenal beyond that of Leffen's, sometimes (though sparingly) opting for true hard shield pressure strings and even double shine grabs on occasion. While this doesn't work great against Leffen all the time since his option is usually to evade or Shine out of shield, it's eventually going to catch up to Leffen if Chillin gains momentum (which I believe he will due to stronger neutral gamesense and more experience/steeled veteran nerves).
Armada nearly beat Leffen in Fox dittos. This is an example of stronger neutral gamesense winning the Fox ditto due to experience handling and flourishing in the heavy punish, mindgame heavy matchup. This is a perfect example of why Chillin 3-1 or 3-2 is the most reasonable outcome for the match. If you have analysis or predictions of the match, and you want to talk about it (public or private) I would be interested. I know some people are betters and don't want to throw theirs in yet (I'm not one for that) but I'd still be intersted to hear from you because it interests me. : ) Thanks
..."my b"
Tyler Thompson my b
Tyler Thompson 5-0 lol
D1 tainted this 😔
D1 looks and acts normal surprised that he’s a really bad guy. Leffen looks fidgety and yet he has probably the best personality in the whole smash community for me at least.
Even the music fits the moment lol
yeah but that diss track was so raw
How did leffen know it was going to be 5-0?
DONT DO IT LEFFEN HES JUST A BOY!!!!!
1:08
D1: "Oh my God. DEEEEESTRUCTIONNNNN!!!"
Plot twist Leffen was the good guy
"Lose to another samus" like you did at Evo 2015 there leffy boy?
What samus
Mark Coppolino At Evo 2015, Leffen went up against Plup, which is arguably the best Samus in the world, and lost 2-1. He's known to have trouble against Samus mains as he also almost lost to Plup in CEO 2015. Samus is known to be his kryptonite. I feel that if he would just take the time to analyze Plup, M2K(When he goes to the doctor that is), PPMD, and Hungrybox, then he would certainly be number 1. But in my opinion, I feel that he has already proven himself to the smash community. It's just that they don't cut him as much slack. But yeah, I hope that answered your question.
Joseph Daniels HugS also beat leffen
Fuck u chilling kisser.
karma
Lol D1's expression XD " 0o0 O.O 0-0 O_O
someone pls tell me the music in the backround ;-:
Leffen murdered chillindood tho
"You're probably gonna lose to another samus" plup plup plup :3
Oh man, another controller will get smashed.....poor guy.
Leffen said in this video that he doesn't care about Chillin, so even if he does lose, it's not likely that he'll care and smash his controller.
What's crazy is that Leffen is completely chill in this interview
it's funny he says chillins gunna lose against another samus and then he himself loses against a samus right after.
Gimr is feeling the shots in the background :P
Holy shit. I can't fucking believe this. Listened to this like 5 times. This is like the fine dining of trash talk.
Leffen is basically Vegeta when he finally turned super saiyan
Lol, why does it say "Chillinman123" in the description? 😂
***** I don't think I've ever seen something so unfunny in my life.
He's right. And haters will still cry
The funniest thing about this actually GIMR's shouts.
This lead to one of the best raps out there.
The sheer surprise on D1's face. But I mean... if you don't want to hear the honest answer, don't ask!
Leffen. Am i the only one who thinks he's such a fucking cool guy? He speaks his mind, and causes trouble so there could be something to find amusing. You want fights, you don't want everyone to be friends and nice to eachother. Leffen - I fucking love you.
The look on D1's face is hilarious. Leffen knew what would happen all along
I'm probs gonna get hated for this but I kinda respect leffen for saying the truth
Edit
I like chillin
"My B"
Didn't leffen lose to plup? They both possibly suck vs samus?
For one, comparing Plup to Hugs or Duck is kind of insulting to him. Plup is arguably a top ten player in the world period. And second, Leffen admitted he sucks at the matchup and tried to get friendlies in with plup before the tourney to learn it and Plup went all Shiek to maintain that advantage lel.
You talk like hugs or duck can't or didn't get better this past year.
And I believe plup is top 11 lol
Lucky top 10
Got better sure, but they still aren't even in the same league as Plup/Leffen. And even if you only give him top 11 that's still far better than either Hugs or Duck.
Anyways you answered my original question by telling me leffen admitted to sucking vs samus.
That's all lol. Thanks
Yeah but one of his goals was to beat m2k. So what do you say about that?
He was never the Villian. He's the anti-hero.
1:06 - 1:15 kills me every time, Leffen is the best villain
Old but gold
Everbody Is so sensitive in the smash Community this guy speaks the truth, these grown up men should be able to handle it.
this is why i love leffen he is not afraid to talk shit and thats what the community needs, more shit talkers
Then SFAT eliminated him.
In the end, he never speaks any truth. He shoots a thousand bullets towards all directions, and misses most of them, while one or two will happen to hit. Look at how he said PPMD was _not_ going to win Apex 2015 (lol), and how he trash-talked SFAT later, only to be eliminated by him, even ironically not making it to the Top 8 because of that.
D1's face had, "Oh shit. Shots fired, rip Chillin," written all over it.
he wanted to agree so badly but he had to be professional lol
I do not like Leffen as a person. He is poorly mannered and has little respect for anyone; but people saying he is bad are wrong. Leffen is one of the top ten best melee players in the world despite his lack of respect.
Can somehow explain what giving up the color means? LIke which colors are considered the best? How does one "own" a color?
Its just a preference. Both Leffen and Chillin wanted the default color (tan), because they both like it and use it. So they are basically fighting for whoever gets their color of choice.
+JacksMagicBean haha basically pride. I play smash regularly with my brother and friends, so in a very close circle of friends (in this case rivalry), sometimes it happens that two people like to play the same character and they both like the same color, so to have a final say in who gets the color you can play a set, and the winner stays with the color. Usually when two people play for the color the ruling stays for life but it's whatever, all in good fun. Except this case obviously. Chillin got whooped and he is banned from that color for life.
Is Chillin only not using the color when playing against another fox who wants it, or just always?
+Andrew Ricklefs leffen said chillin could not use that color in bracket but recently took it back and is now letting chillin use that color whenever he want. It is just 1 small step for Melee. 1 big leap for leffen not being an ass anymore.
Trevor Boesche Lol.
Now I'm fucking hyped to watch APEX
Leffen is smart. He has set up Chillin for a lose-lose situation. Even if Chillin wins the MM, if he has a mediocre placing at the tournament, Leffen's will still be right. Chillin can't win from just the MM alone. The only real way for for him win this is if he actually meets up with Leffen in tournament and (double) eliminates him, or wins the whole thing. The likelyhood of the former is incredibly low as is, but the latter is next to nothing.
Yeah, not only did Chillin get 5-0'd in the MM, but he got 33rd in the tournament
RIP comment section Chillin fans who, five months later, still havent learned that elders don't deserve respect just for bein' elders
Gimr crying out in the background is what makes this.
Chillin won MLG Philly 2005
I wasn't aware Leffen was talking about 2005.
DibbleMunt Doesn't matter. Leffen said Chillin never won anything as part of his reason why Chillin would never win a major.
1000g2g3g4g800999 Players were trash in 2005.
Derek Quin They were worse than they are now, but again, this is beside the point.
Aaaaaaand he got 5-0'd by Leffen the Prophet
Remember when everyone thought Ghatzu was going to get crushed by Darkrain in the ditto? Things happen all the time.
Proving Leffen's point even further man
I didnt like him before, but he spoke the truth. I respect him because he set his goal to winning everything, he is going for the gold and hes getting close to it. Please keep getting better, the community needs a king :)
holy fuck leffen relax
LMAO this guy is awesome. Not scared to talk that gud shit unlike all the other smash players. Backs it up too. This is what the smash scene needs. Entertainment.
Oof D1
Was he one of the people caught in the evo scandals?
Hanzo Hattori not EVO, but it is a scandal
I love legend and how he stirs up controversy in the smash community he knows the perfect ingredients to make the tastiest smash soup
First add in some shots then a little bit of salt then stir it up with knee of the videos like this and you have yourself a tasty treat
Plus it always feels really good when he does this then the other person makes a comeback and wins and he gets mad lol
I love *leffen
I keep clicking the like button but it doesn't seem to want to go up by more than one. At least I can contribute to the view count =D
Madoka is a gay anime.
=(
Matticus1229 :D