Why are Bartonella symptoms different for each person? | HOST RESPONSE and bartonellosis
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I discuss why each person with bartonellosis presents with such different symptoms (hint: it's the host's immune response). I also discuss the difference between stealth and frontal pathogens and make comparisons to COVID.
Videos/articles mentioned:
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High quality journal articles on bartonellosis:
1. Giladi, M., Maman, E., Paran, D., Bickels, J., Comaneshter, D., Avidor, B., ... & Wientroub, S. (2005). Cat‐scratch disease-associated arthropathy. Arthritis & Rheumatism, 52(11), 3611-3617.
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2. Maman, E., Bickels, J., Ephros, M., Paran, D., Comaneshter, D., Metzkor-Cotter, E., ... & Giladi, M. (2007). Musculoskeletal manifestations of cat scratch disease. Clinical infectious diseases, 45(12), 1535-1540.
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3. Maggi, R. G., Mozayeni, B. R., Pultorak, E. L., Hegarty, B. C., Bradley, J. M., Correa, M., & Breitschwerdt, E. B. (2012). Bartonella spp. bacteremia and rheumatic symptoms in patients from Lyme disease-endemic region. Emerging infectious diseases, 18(5), 783.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
4. Breitschwerdt, E. B., Maggi, R. G., Mozayeni, B. R., Hegarty, B. C., Bradley, J. M., & Mascarelli, P. E. (2010). PCR amplification of Bartonella koehlerae from human blood and enrichment blood cultures. Parasites & vectors, 3(1), 76.
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5. Mozayeni, B. R., Maggi, R. G., Bradley, J. M., & Breitschwerdt, E. B. (2018). Rheumatological presentation of Bartonella koehlerae and Bartonella henselae bacteremias: A case report. Medicine, 97(17).
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
6. Breitschwerdt, E. B., Maggi, R. G., Duncan, A. W., Nicholson, W. L., Hegarty, B. C., & Woods, C. W. (2007). Bartonella species in blood of immunocompetent persons with animal and arthropod contact. Emerging infectious diseases, 13(6), 938.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
7. Breitschwerdt, E. B., Maggi, R. G., Nicholson, W. L., Cherry, N. A., & Woods, C. W. (2008). Bartonella sp. bacteremia in patients with neurological and neurocognitive dysfunction. Journal of clinical microbiology, 46(9), 2856-2861.
jcm.asm.org/content/jcm/46/9/...
8. Breitschwerdt, E. B., Sontakke, S., & Hopkins, S. (2012). Neurological manifestations of bartonellosis in immunocompetent patients: a composite of reports from 2005-2012. J Neuroparasitol, 3(235640), 15.
www.lymepa.org/Breitschwerdt_J...
9. Breitschwerdt, E. B., Mascarelli, P. E., Schweickert, L. A., Maggi, R. G., Hegarty, B. C., Bradley, J. M., & Woods, C. W. (2011). Hallucinations, sensory neuropathy, and peripheral visual deficits in a young woman infected with Bartonella koehlerae. Journal of clinical microbiology, 49(9), 3415-3417.
jcm.asm.org/content/jcm/49/9/...
10. Kalogeropoulos, C., Koumpoulis, I., Mentis, A., Pappa, C., Zafeiropoulos, P., & Aspiotis, M. (2011). Bartonella and intraocular inflammation: a series of cases and review of literature. Clinical Ophthalmology (Auckland, NZ), 5, 817.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
Blog Post on Bartonella and the Eyes from Galaxy Diagnostics
www.galaxydx.com/bartonella-a...
Podcast with Dr. Bob Mozayeni and Dr. Ed Breitschwerdt:
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Best diagnostic testing:
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You explain everything so eloquently. My brain fog and I are always very impressed.
thank you! Brain fog is not one of my symptoms so don't be too impressed lol 😉
This is exactly what I’m dealing with. Received IGG results but still dealing with severe symptoms. Is it my immune response or the infection itself. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ Fix my immune system and symptoms go into remission. Ugh! Enough to drive a person mad! Excellent video! Thank you
I would love to see a video about herxing and how to get through it. Or a video about neurological issues it can cause.
Great ideas! Thank you. Got some researching to do 😉
I've always said that I would respect bartonella for being very effective at its goal (to survive and multiply) by not killing its host immediately if I wasn't the host.
also I'm really excited to read that article.
Yay someone is excited to read an article!!! I'm not alone lol. And your comment made me lol for realz. Bartonella IS super interesting...if you don't have bartonellosis
I just love your posts❣️. I can’t believe how much you encourage and shape others lives from where you are. You are an amazing and dynamic( not to mention beautiful) person! Thank you so much. From a Gramma in Washington State
Wow thank you so much Deborah! I really appreciate that. It's been such a tough road and continues to be so I feel privileged to be able to help others along the way ❤️❤️
❤️Piper, and thanks for the informative video. I’ll check out the link, Jake!
Thank you
You do such a beautiful job explaining a difficult topic.
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You are a brave old soul. Thank you for your research. My symptoms are mirror of yours. I'm a father of two and the he'll of these conditions is insane. I cut the sibo with rifaximin which was a releaf. I'm mid treatment antibiotics for bartonella, the MCAS response sucks. Thanks for sharing. Be well!
Jake has sadly passed away. 😢
Another very cogent, informative and amusing production by the BadA** Bodacious Bitchin Bar Bounced Bartonella Babe and her equally lovely maternal and canine units. I'm glad you seem a bit happier. Press on... :)
Eh that's a facade but the "bar bounced" did bring a smile to my face
Great vid Jake
Are you clear now?
Excellent video. Well done. I’m on round 4 of Bartonella clearance with Byron White herbs. Abart. Also using rife. Any suggestions?
I have cancer. The current worst co-infection seems to be Bartonella. Using castor packs, sauna, coffee enigmas, high dose Vit C, high dose Niacin, and Vit D seems to clear a Herx reaction in a few days vs a month or 6 weeks. I’ll look at your other videos. Thanks! Praying for you.
I unfortunately have not been able to treat due to severe MCAS but I am working on SIBO now to see if I make gains with my MCAS by doing that. I have a video on the treatment of bartonellosis on my channel if you would like to see the protocol that I intend on following. Sorry to hear of your suffering and wishing you the best! ❤️
Perfect segue to suggest folks look into the difference between germ theory (largely Pasteur) and the work of Antoine Beauchamp (terrain theory).
And at the risk of sounding like a broken record I wonder if you have explored other contributors to the MCAS such as mold exposure? Have you had HLA gene testing?
Mold is a sensitive topic for me lol. Long story short, we were taken for a ride by a mold company and we don't have a mold problem in this house. We did get a new HVAC with fancy air scrubber and we got air purifiers for the entire house (and air conditioning 🙌). I feel no better. Even if mold is part of my problem, which Dr. M and my other BLMD don't think it is, I wouldn't be able to tolerate the meds used to treat mold issues, at this time. However, if you have a good article to start on with HLA and mold, please comment it here! I got turned off to mold after that experience but enough time has passed to where I am ready to continue learning about it 😊
@@BartonellaBabe I can sympathize deeply with this! There is not enough education around mold and how to properly assess a building. My recommendation is to find inspectors through ISEAI. (iseai.org/)
Regarding HLA testing and how this may apply to you, here are some great articles: biotoxinjourney.com/deciphering-hla-dr-labs/ AND www.survivingmold.com/diagnosis/the-biotoxin-pathway
One thing to keep in mind with mold is that if your HLA genes prevent you from detoxing then you will be carrying around a high toxic load from mold (even prior or periodic exposures) , lyme, bartonella, etc. Not to mention all the crud in our air and water, makeup, pharmaceuticals, etc. Assisting your body in detox is imperative. NIR sauna has been a game changer for me.
A very well tolerated and gentle binder is Gpur (a purified clinoptilolite) and it can be purchased online without RX. I cannot recommend any other zeolites as I have not been impressed nor been given independent lab tests by other manufacturers. Gpur's founder and pharmacist/chemist is very helpful and will gladly answer your questions about their purification process. Activated coconut charcoal (Bulletproof) is also great. Binders are to be taken with sauna use.
These were foundational to my healing even when I was very reactive and in my worst mast cell flares. I could tolerate the sauna in small amounts to begin with (5 minutes) and then worked my way up to 30-45 min.
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what type of air purifiers ?
@@ericaanderheggen4975 our little air purifiers are blue air and our bigger one for down stairs are Alen and unfortunately I do not know the brand of the air scrubber in the HVAC
Thanks for these great videos. 🙂
Just to ask regards your foot pain, did/do you experience neuropathy type pain in your feet ? I don’t have a diagnosis but it’s a possibility. Like you, after standing for a small amount of time I get lower leg, particularly shin pain. Also with shoes I get prickly/tingling/painful sensations throughout my feet. Also burning in these areas too. That can be any time though.
I have other symptoms too including GI issues. I just seem to match a few of these known symptoms. 🧐
Thank you for watching! I do experience neuropathy in my hands and feet and actually all over. My foot pain, however, also includes 24/7 pain that feels like someone broke all the tendons in them. The only way to avoid this pain is by not being on my feet. Your foot and shin symptoms sound like they may be due to bartonellosis. GI issues are common in bartonellosis as well so if I were you, I would get evaluated by a BLMD, if you have not done so already 🙂
@@BartonellaBabe Ouch ! I’m so sorry you have to deal with that. I fully understand what living with chronic pain is like so hats off to you for being so positive. Plus you’re helping others.
Yes I have hand pain too. So the more I use them the worse they get.
I’ve just started to work with a practitioner who said Bartonellosis is a possibility. Just waiting on some bloods to come back.
Really appreciate you answering. I hope you can get over this some day. 🙏🏼
Hi Jake, I was curious if you have tried Ketotifen and if yes, how it has worked for you and (MCAS) in general?
Hi! Thanks for your question. I have tried ketotifen in two different formulations and I reacted poorly each time. Weirdly enough, I tolerate the ketotifen eye drops (Zaditor). Ketotifen can be a game changer for some and is one of the first meds to try after H1 and H2 blockers. It's definitely worth a try
@@BartonellaBabe Thank You so much I have (MCAS) along with a myriad of other environmental sensitivity issues and my new Doc wants me to go on Ketotifen but as you already know (NEW) meds can be great or terrible. I really love your channel and thanks for all the great info! I will give it a try.
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Hola! Yo voy a tratar a escribir en español! Gracias por tu comentario. Me gusta saber que hay una persona que gusta cuando yo encanto otro que mi madre. Yo estudié el español por seis clases y me estoy divirtiendo escribir en español contigo 😊
Is it normal that all my symptoms are nuerological? Especially disorientation
That is normal! Once again brings it back to host immune response. I have a neuropsychiatric (not strictly neurological) video coming out fairly soon so be on the lookout for that!
Can you please explain what are your numerological symptoms? Thank you!
Can bartonella lay dormant for years and then recur years later ?
Yes Bartonella can cause asymptomatic infection for years that later becomes symptomatic
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