The Ukrainians who refuse to fight and are trying to leave the country | DW Analysis

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  • @donkalzone6671
    @donkalzone6671 ปีที่แล้ว +4171

    "Unfortunatly, we have to fight to the death!"
    Says the woman, who sits save behind her desk and doesnt have to fear to be drafted for the meatgrinder

    • @user-hc2vy4zs9s
      @user-hc2vy4zs9s ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂look at her face u foolish people
      She ain’t going to die for her country 😂😂

    • @antares-the-one
      @antares-the-one ปีที่แล้ว +423

      precisely, I hear these words precisely from the individuals, who are not endagered by the full consequences of those words

    • @kjdtm
      @kjdtm ปีที่แล้ว +216

      it wont take long, women will also be drafted, they are running out of men :(

    • @joynalmiah549
      @joynalmiah549 ปีที่แล้ว +295

      not even her desk she's in a fancy restaurant with nice clothes, access to electricity, internet and suited up servers.

    • @maxstryK3R
      @maxstryK3R ปีที่แล้ว +206

      How would you fight for a country if they are all corrupt officials. I don't see the logic.
      You serving for the rich people and dying like a numbers that no one cares or denying your existence.

  • @desertlion5215
    @desertlion5215 ปีที่แล้ว +3618

    I fought in Iraq and Afghanistan, and I totally agree with the guy who doesn't want to fight. I will no longer fight for those who sit in power making money from the death of young men for their own personel gains. I have seen so many young men die for nothing because politicians cant do their jobs.

    • @The_First_Sean
      @The_First_Sean ปีที่แล้ว

      I, being a member of the elite, will conscript you, when you die. I’ll be there to handle your wife and single women, adequately.

    • @aziris9145
      @aziris9145 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      The best comment

    • @GordonSeal
      @GordonSeal ปีที่แล้ว

      So if your country would be invaded, you would willingly be giving up your freedom and safety to a dictator?

    • @UkraineNeeds
      @UkraineNeeds ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Amen

    • @Leoterio76
      @Leoterio76 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      Yes but Iraq make no borders with US. It's understandable.
      Russia just want the whole country for theirselves.

  • @Scapestoat
    @Scapestoat ปีที่แล้ว +775

    There's something uncanny about two woman talking about how terrible some men are, for daring to refuse to fight.

    • @TheSwedishHistorian
      @TheSwedishHistorian ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah the double standards are real, I dont see them having extra children to ensure the nations survival

    • @MrNote-lz7lh
      @MrNote-lz7lh ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Yeah. Makes you want to take the fight to them.

    • @ivanyashchenko790
      @ivanyashchenko790 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, woman’s said, because vagina I can’t keep automatic rifle. So men should go and defend us.

    • @Jackholiday1025
      @Jackholiday1025 ปีที่แล้ว

      First all of slot of women are currently serving in the military and second men are expected to fight because they are the physical stronger sex and women are more valuable for repopulating.

    • @masakitonguba8919
      @masakitonguba8919 ปีที่แล้ว

      forcing people to fight and die for freedom ^_^

  • @Arag0n
    @Arag0n ปีที่แล้ว +231

    Ukrainian politician: "we have to fight for our freedom"
    Ukrainian politician: "you don't have the right to choose"
    🎤

    • @hansvanberkel1232
      @hansvanberkel1232 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Its politicians that cause wars but its the others that suffer because of wars.

    • @cowboytanaka6675
      @cowboytanaka6675 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah i mean wtf are they supposed to do?

    • @roberts3423
      @roberts3423 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hilarious, what is this doible standard, wheres the democracy? Soldiers would fight for a strong leader, but they have noticed just how weak Zelensky is, bending over and offering himself for foreign money.

  • @Oachkatzl-y6s
    @Oachkatzl-y6s ปีที่แล้ว +421

    "We have to fight to the death for our children" = "men have to fight in the freezing cold fields to their death while I sit in my pillow in my heated office"

    • @-_Hatred_-
      @-_Hatred_- ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@user-ij9vy3oy1ypretty sure I saw news about preparations for mobilizing women medics

    • @OK-yy6qz
      @OK-yy6qz ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@user-ij9vy3oy1y nah they could start conscripting women, children, elderly and she still would get a pass because she's a politician

    • @josepalbor1426
      @josepalbor1426 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHSHSHSHHAHA

    • @wingknight7132
      @wingknight7132 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@OK-yy6qzdont put women in the same category as children

    • @OPFCartoons
      @OPFCartoons ปีที่แล้ว

      while she sucks new and diverse cucumbers and prepares her sad womb to show her gratitude for life

  • @lambertmkz
    @lambertmkz ปีที่แล้ว +2536

    Ukrainian member of Parliament Lisa Yasko saying that they will fight to the end while she's safe behind a desk is the coldest thing I've heard in a long time. Politicians all over the world are the same; heartless & inhuman!

    • @parinaykumarsah9286
      @parinaykumarsah9286 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Totally agree

    • @munachin1
      @munachin1 ปีที่แล้ว

      And human sheeps all over the world die fighting their wars or supporting them by being brainwashed

    • @Blabla-od7vt
      @Blabla-od7vt ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Ukraine is fighting for its survival because of unprovoked aggression of an imperial power. I don't know what is heartless about what she said. It is the truth. Fight to "the end" also doesn't necessarily mean death. I don't see much sense in sending your political leadership to the front, unless the political apparatus is unnecessarily bloated and inefficient.
      Do you have any constructive suggestions what the Ukrainians, while in this terrible agony right now, should do differently?

    • @parinaykumarsah9286
      @parinaykumarsah9286 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Blabla-od7vt unprovoked
      Zelensky knows what Russia have done to gorgia for joining NATO 2008
      Still chooses to slutter innocent citizen for father Usa
      I am with citizen of both Ukrainian and Russia
      It doesn't matter who controls over piece of land just end the war to save lives

    • @tshidiso9653
      @tshidiso9653 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      It's heartless because she is not fighting but sitting comfortably being served by waiters where ever she is.

  • @tadzssegujja2098
    @tadzssegujja2098 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    Sitting comfortably in another county, fancy hotel, water, electricity, everything knowing you will never be the one to hold that gun on the frontline it's easy to say the words "we are willing to die for this country." see the life she is in.... We have to fight till the end😂😂

    • @Adan-hu9en
      @Adan-hu9en ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😂😂😂

    • @tshidiso9653
      @tshidiso9653 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      What a joke🤣🤣🤣, I fully support the Ukraine man who are not fighting for a corrupt government. Lisa and people like must go fight

  • @achillesrodriguezxx3958
    @achillesrodriguezxx3958 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    My Ukrainian friend told me the manpower situation is so bad that there are press gangs roaming the streets and snatching up young men. Only way to be safe is to never leave the house

    • @Dima-mc9ue
      @Dima-mc9ue ปีที่แล้ว +27

      True.

    • @havencat9337
      @havencat9337 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      sad but true in some small cities... they dont do it in kiev

    • @СергейТимченко-ъ8ц
      @СергейТимченко-ъ8ц ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's true

    • @mrcactuar8515
      @mrcactuar8515 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      they have been doing that for months. There are plenty of videos on Telegram

    • @marvin2678
      @marvin2678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They cant eanter your House ? That Sounds so scary

  • @100musicplaylists3
    @100musicplaylists3 ปีที่แล้ว +533

    Everyone thinks they are free until they realize there are people in power who believe they own you.

    • @dedskin1
      @dedskin1 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      There is no fence around my country , but i know its there . Thing is by the time you realize your country is a prison , a death camp its too late .

    • @FLPhotoCatcher
      @FLPhotoCatcher ปีที่แล้ว

      That's true in most, if not all countries.
      Some say that Russia wants to kiII all Ukrainians, but is that true? If Ukraine made a peace deal, why would Russia do that?

    • @Steilhandgranate
      @Steilhandgranate ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@dedskin1Well spoken, just as the chicken spoke about the coop fence before it was eaten by the fox. 🤡

    • @DEvilParsnip
      @DEvilParsnip ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So we need no borders and chaos?

    • @doccan3848
      @doccan3848 ปีที่แล้ว

      moral of the story is that if putin ask you to bend over, you ask “how low?”

  • @beesforhoney43
    @beesforhoney43 ปีที่แล้ว +990

    That young blonde lady, dont seems to know anything and she's comfortably safe where she is. Just look at her environment. She's Not affected in any way. God help these young men trying to just survive. ❤

    • @allydea
      @allydea ปีที่แล้ว +52

      She should have been wearing a khaki shirt, like Mr. Z. Then we would've know she's in the thick of things.

    • @antares-the-one
      @antares-the-one ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exactly. And preciselly those safe and comfortable women are the most furious in this country and want to kill all the russians. Because they will not suffer the consequences of such desires.

    • @sleepy_dobe
      @sleepy_dobe ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you blind or deaf? 8:31 She wasn't speaking from Ukraine. She's a member of the Ukrainean parliament, attending a security forum in Warsaw, talking to DW via videocall. That's why her environment looks so comfortable, you Russian troll. And in case you're that ignorant, Warsaw is in Poland, where there is no war with Russia at the moment.

    • @jean-pierrebiebuyck313
      @jean-pierrebiebuyck313 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@allydea quite so, Ukrainian parliament memebers should voluntarily accept serving a few months at the front line. This would contribute to further strenghten the social cohesion in Ukraine and would further widen the gap with the kids of de Russian siloviki who continue to spend their vacations in the West, while poor young Russians are being sent as cannon fodder for the greater glory oftheir dictator.

    • @mkodyglobalsouthsoldier
      @mkodyglobalsouthsoldier ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jean-pierrebiebuyck313 corrupt thieving ukrainers left and paid
      Have u not heard about it
      Russians are being discriminated against in Europe
      They even made a law where they can take anything they have on them if they come into European countries
      Ps Ukraine has lost half of its population nearly to other European nations and are now work force for others
      So it's very appealing to leave as a Ukraine then it is for a Russian

  • @ferdinandpailas2833
    @ferdinandpailas2833 ปีที่แล้ว +2680

    She seriously said that there's ZERO TOLERANCE of corruption in Ukraine 😂

    • @roman9762
      @roman9762 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know a few nationalists like her and they fully believe that. Russia is no gem with corruption but Ukraine was literally at the bottom of the corruption index before the war, when the West started fudging the numbers.

    • @stanislavpastukhov9871
      @stanislavpastukhov9871 ปีที่แล้ว +288

      She is a part of it ))

    • @intel386DX
      @intel386DX ปีที่แล้ว +150

      LOL :D this is just like i you say that the USA is the pacifist country :D

    • @Nikolay_Slavov
      @Nikolay_Slavov ปีที่แล้ว

      The fact that they are firing and arresting both politicians and military personal at the highest ranks speaks volumes. I have never heard such thing happening in other country around the world at such scales. Eradicating corruption is like fighting a cancer - takes so much time and so much will until it's defeated.

    • @DisHappah
      @DisHappah ปีที่แล้ว +136

      She'll be perfect for an open position in the Biden administration, lol.

  • @kojuhkojuh1727
    @kojuhkojuh1727 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    No democracy in Ukraine, only death, corruption and poorness. I want to leave Ukraine, but i can't. I have not seen my family for almost 2 years....

  • @BrandyHeng007
    @BrandyHeng007 ปีที่แล้ว +2331

    Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich 🤡, a tragedy for the poor

    • @ElLeone69
      @ElLeone69 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Underrated comment 🙏🏽

    • @arodvaz1955
      @arodvaz1955 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Said the clueless person who's safe in their home and has absolutely no idea what it means to live in a war.

    • @francesbernard2445
      @francesbernard2445 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      While that may be true sometimes remember that it is written somewhere that the foolishness of g_d is always going to be wiser than the wisest among man. Another thing. Each and every one of us some day will die only of natural causes we hope.

    • @BrandyHeng007
      @BrandyHeng007 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@arodvaz1955
      The difference between the fighting man and the thinking man is "fighting done by fools and thinking done by cowards"

    • @18890426
      @18890426 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Whose quote is that?

  • @efsttgagashs
    @efsttgagashs ปีที่แล้ว +373

    The truth is this one,I'm from Romania,i worked in Germany for 3 month,in Germany are a lot of Ukranians with BMW and Mercedes,rich people,the poorest people remained in Ukraine to fight.

    • @oleg8433
      @oleg8433 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Сorruption has created unequal conditions for people. But the government is responsible for this, not the people

    • @karelmatejka9710
      @karelmatejka9710 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Same here in the Czech Republic. Some young Ukrainians even celebrate Bandera parties here, but they fled Ukraina. This world is weird. Greetings to Romania.

    • @ІринаМілошевська
      @ІринаМілошевська ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Have you all ever been to Ukraine? Lived there? Stop talking like you know what you’re talking about.

    • @imiy
      @imiy ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tessa.723 and the west isn't helping them enough, even though it disarmed Ukraine for decades...

    • @ganjaph
      @ganjaph ปีที่แล้ว +8

      of course you can buy bmw in Ukraine only if you corrupted... Maybe you don't know, but Ukrainian legislation provides wide list of options for men to cross the border legally

  • @ВсеволодПарфёнов-ф2ъ
    @ВсеволодПарфёнов-ф2ъ ปีที่แล้ว +459

    "We have zero tolerance to corruptian here in the most corrupt country in Europe". I more than sure this woman has no one of her relatives conscripted.

    • @cinpeace353
      @cinpeace353 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Zero tolerance to corruptions that don't pay. 😅

    • @incrediblestevrhymz2260
      @incrediblestevrhymz2260 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      That's usually my problem with these wars... The loudest advocates for wars do t have their children and relatives fighting the wars... I am sure nobody in Zelensky's family is fighting the war, most of them are definitely not in Ukraine but thesame people want ordinary Ukrainians to give up their lives and family to go fight the Russians in mined trenches.....

    • @ВсеволодПарфёнов-ф2ъ
      @ВсеволодПарфёнов-ф2ъ ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@incrediblestevrhymz2260 More than that, Zelenski himself has never been in military service, because he had dodged conscription the same way as these poore ukrainian men are trying now.

    • @piotrsobczak2866
      @piotrsobczak2866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She is out of the box

    • @tacticalsapper
      @tacticalsapper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Russia is the most corrupt in Europe.

  • @klymnychyk8977
    @klymnychyk8977 ปีที่แล้ว +561

    I left illegally thru Moldova, I spent $4500, best decision in my life

    • @Dima-mc9ue
      @Dima-mc9ue ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Счастья тебе, дядь. Белой завистью завидую. Привет из Киева

    • @masha1414k
      @masha1414k ปีที่แล้ว +70

      ​@@Dima-mc9ueбеги мальчик, it's not worth dying for corrupt politicians

    • @matthewkopp2391
      @matthewkopp2391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ukraine’s government sucks. Not worth it. This is only a proxy war.

    • @Whrsurhd
      @Whrsurhd ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Молодец! Удачи тебе

    • @JohnSmith-yf4yo
      @JohnSmith-yf4yo ปีที่แล้ว +7

      А депутаны себе диппачпорты выписали чтобы в случае чего....

  • @ekoflow77
    @ekoflow77 ปีที่แล้ว +1203

    “Zero tolerance for any kind of corruption.” That’s like the Mafia saying they have zero tolerance for any crime.😂😂😂

    • @NullTypeError
      @NullTypeError ปีที่แล้ว

      yes indeed, they (Ukrainian officials) ARE the corruption. No idea how she can lie with such serious face:D

    • @vasilykotikov6916
      @vasilykotikov6916 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      They just call it - a russian propoganda,

    • @frostflower5555
      @frostflower5555 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Yeah, it's hilarious. She is just speaking rhetorically, what Zelensky wants her to say. She talks about 10:40 "freedom" for Ukraine but what about freedom for the Russian speaking eastern parts. I almost choked on my coffee.

    • @lauchlanguddy1004
      @lauchlanguddy1004 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      do you live here Ivan you thinking of Russia

    • @zerbs25
      @zerbs25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is like punishing the fish for drinking water.

  • @rogeroeyen
    @rogeroeyen ปีที่แล้ว +530

    Guess she missed the statement of the Dutch minister of defense who claimed that Ukraine was fighting this conflict because it was a cheap way to protect NATO against Russia or from the US where they claim that the Ukrainian conflict is a cheap way to deter China.

    • @robek2623
      @robek2623 ปีที่แล้ว

      Russia killed over 200 dutch people in 2014. The dutch got their reasons.

    • @MM-zm5qx
      @MM-zm5qx ปีที่แล้ว

      She heard what America and the Dutch said but she is just another prostitute for America and NATO pretending to be fighting for her home land🤔

    • @0527Kahlua
      @0527Kahlua ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Mitt Romney said same, and Lindsey Graham gets excited talking about the last dead Ukrainian soldier.

    • @SkyDiver-wd5oj
      @SkyDiver-wd5oj ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@0527Kahlua yep.

    • @rare_wulf9358
      @rare_wulf9358 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was instigated by NATO by inciting Russia to invade Ukraine, so that they could implement their sanctions. USA EU(Evil Union) thought the Russian economy would collapse within a few months, turning the Ruble Into rubble, that is what Joe Biden said during his State of the Union speech, in the hopes that the people of Russia would rise up and replace Putin, they believed their own lies that Russia was nothing more than a gas station pretending to be a country.

  • @kuchenkoren4051
    @kuchenkoren4051 ปีที่แล้ว +532

    The reality is when the war is over, those who have money and previously flee the country, then come back, continue business, and get richer.
    Meanwhile those who choose to fight, live in sorrow

    • @cinpeace353
      @cinpeace353 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      The worst is being forced to fight.

    • @hellsing48
      @hellsing48 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's it, always happens

    • @gleestruwe1818
      @gleestruwe1818 ปีที่แล้ว

      greedy Ukrainians ,dialogue , but no they want it's all, any how most of that land is Russia's any way 🤔

    • @kumbo77
      @kumbo77 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      so "high status men" with 3 kids and women can leave, other guys have to stay behind, this does not feel right somewhere

    • @ricflair4052
      @ricflair4052 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      they will have more women to themselves, since most of the men died in wars.

  • @amadd5641
    @amadd5641 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    My father always said to me, "Don't ever go fighting for those bastards". At the time I would have, but now that I am older, I see what he meant, and I say the same to my son.

    • @somone1437
      @somone1437 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      fight for what you love... if you do not want to fight your country then oh well tear your passport rn cuz you don't need to be a citizen

    • @eliotness4029
      @eliotness4029 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t understand why Ukrainians living in Lviv need to defend Crimea, where they have never been and never will

    • @dabajabaza111
      @dabajabaza111 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or else what? @@somone1437

    • @xiontion9993
      @xiontion9993 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@somone1437let ukrain go under rassia just the government will change,,,,but the land will be same,,,,,,,who wants to die for the chairs of politicians

    • @TheSteinbitt
      @TheSteinbitt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@foxoon9389government was democratically elected, so it kinda is.

  • @thorts
    @thorts ปีที่แล้ว +946

    Don't blame them. Choosing life over death ain't that crazy at all.

    • @princerose233
      @princerose233 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      😂 yes what cowards do. Oh no please take my land and freeload off others.

    • @Samagoselen
      @Samagoselen ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Yea, 100%. I'll be honest, even if i saw my own family bein attacked and knew, that if i let my anger take over, i'll die, i would just run and save my own life. Wars should not happen at all and if they do, they should be fought with rockets, not with men.

    • @ProtatoFarmer69
      @ProtatoFarmer69 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Sure but they should not be allowed to return to Ukraine ever.

    • @endeend1
      @endeend1 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      It's a bloodbath with little to no heroism involved - 97%+ of the causalities are from artillery, mortars, drones - basically you're dead without ever seeing an enemy or even firing your gun.

    • @johnsmith-yk6yf
      @johnsmith-yk6yf ปีที่แล้ว +58

      They won't fight for Zelensky.

  • @kevinfidler6287
    @kevinfidler6287 ปีที่แล้ว +1164

    It's difficult to blame an individual for not choosing the horrors of war. It would be based on principle alone, not human nature.

    • @casualsuede
      @casualsuede ปีที่แล้ว +60

      There is a difference between not wanting to kill vs running away because your scared to fight. Principles are not always honorable ones.

    • @lanzortiz3199
      @lanzortiz3199 ปีที่แล้ว +294

      ​@@casualsuedeeasy for you to say because your not on there situation. Typical internet casual.

    • @denisavdeev8148
      @denisavdeev8148 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@casualsuede what is he supposed to fight for, kill for, die for? The president is draft dodger. He is probably from Kiev or Odessa both cities are Russian. He lives not thanks to the government but despite it.

    • @rubiconklbrutorowman7577
      @rubiconklbrutorowman7577 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      In Russia, over 600k or so fled! Should I repeat that? How many Ukraine fled? 60,000, no, may be 6-thousands? May be..

    • @tonyhart2744
      @tonyhart2744 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rubiconklbrutorowman7577pretty sure ukraine got more people fled than russia because war is happen at their country

  • @ycplum7062
    @ycplum7062 ปีที่แล้ว +799

    Don't dismiss the corrupt officials. Draft them and put them on the front.

    • @babblo1389
      @babblo1389 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Brilliant idea

    • @babblo1389
      @babblo1389 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Why isn't-Zelinskiy doing that?

    • @cinpeace353
      @cinpeace353 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Those are partners. 😅😅

    • @babblo1389
      @babblo1389 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Zelinskiy and officials

    • @rexjucaban5439
      @rexjucaban5439 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ptecisely!!!

  • @vladimirbaulin5381
    @vladimirbaulin5381 ปีที่แล้ว +553

    I want to say as a Ukrainian who knows the situation as it is, not as the girl at the table tells it! If you have money, you can leave or sit at home and you will never be drafted, if you are poor or ordinary person, the only chance not to be drafted and stay alive is to sit at home in a ban and not even go out to the store for groceries. I assure you all the system is corrupt and corruption in Ukraine will not be overcome!

    • @SaschaBraus77
      @SaschaBraus77 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats why I am against ukraine joining the eu. The EU and its politicians are already heavily corrupt as it is, especially our presidents von der Leyen. They are great at hiding it and going free of consequences, I dont believe we need more of that.
      That said, the faster the system putin has build around him falls, the better that would be. I dont see russia backing up from this huge mistake they made and I dont see civilians getting involved in overthrowing their government.
      They will keep sending troops of unmotivated and poor educated soldiers and the conflict will go on and on without much movement on both sides.

    • @abundanz
      @abundanz ปีที่แล้ว

      As outsiders we see the corruption It’s not really a secret. What i dont understand is why the EU & Ukraine are Pretending that Ukraine Can become a member subject to meeting “7 conditions” (one of which is ending corruption & another is ending oligarchy). In other words, it will never happen. Because the oligarchs will never allow it. So why do they pretend ?

    • @3aMonolit
      @3aMonolit ปีที่แล้ว +18

      So, my fellow citizen, you're just going to sit there, complain and wait for someone to fix it, so you can just enjoy the privileges of being part of an advanced society? I wonder how you see a place for yourself in such a society? Do you not see the responsibility for what is happening on your land right in front of you, even when it directly affects your life? As I see it, you are better suited to live in a dictatorship, you are a real lamb.

    • @vladimirivanovic5623
      @vladimirivanovic5623 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@3aMonolit You are brainwashed. Ukraine is already a dictatorship.

    • @UkraineNeeds
      @UkraineNeeds ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Sitting at home helps to AvoidPayingBribes. Heroic decision. Respect

  • @GoofyGoober3792
    @GoofyGoober3792 ปีที่แล้ว +1000

    I am Ukrainian. Everything what Lisa Yanko said about the improvements of serving in the army is complete bull... in 1.5 years everything changed to the worse. You can't just be a medic or drone operator. First you need become a foot soldier and survive couple of months at least and maybe then if your commander is a good guy you can change your specialization.

    • @lmeza1983
      @lmeza1983 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      Even facing death you are nothing but a tool with an ID number, sad world.

    • @ЗривКорень-м5к
      @ЗривКорень-м5к ปีที่แล้ว +118

      а меня рассмешили её слова, что Россия после Украины нападёт на страну НАТО. Врать это её работа.

    • @tshifhiwaramatswana6862
      @tshifhiwaramatswana6862 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Survive a couple of hours you mean😂

    • @frostflower5555
      @frostflower5555 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      There is something really fishy going on in Kiev. I feel sorry for the villagers in the east on their own historical lands. Long live Donbas, Luhansk, Odessa, Crimea. They suffer while Kiev parties.

    • @ab-xo4yc
      @ab-xo4yc ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I am Sorry for u man. Used as a cannon folder cannot be a nice feeling

  • @adm58
    @adm58 ปีที่แล้ว +456

    Nobody should be forced to fight. If there aren't enough willing volunteers, there is insufficient support for the war and it is time to seek a resolution.

    • @ukropcrimeariver
      @ukropcrimeariver ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I am pretty sure they said that they will fight untill the last ukranian.

    • @puddles5501
      @puddles5501 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ok, so by your logic russia should withdraw given they're on their 3rd round of conscription then. ukraine wins, good talk!

    • @MrPJgates
      @MrPJgates ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@puddles5501then you volunteer for the meat grinder

    • @marichka2799
      @marichka2799 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ruzian troll.

    • @s.a.t419
      @s.a.t419 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​. No , Russia called up 300k that had prior training and had another 600k volunteer. They have over 1 million trained man army vs Ukraine kidnapping kids and seniors. It's already over lol

  • @kingdomofnolandcolnzy464
    @kingdomofnolandcolnzy464 ปีที่แล้ว +668

    Life is a priceless gift, no country worth to die for.

    • @loganrogers1274
      @loganrogers1274 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Views like this are fkn sick truly, when the opposing army takes your family hostage...youll forever regret not being a fkn man grabbing a weapon and protecting your GD bloodline.

    • @kalinandonov2799
      @kalinandonov2799 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ​@@loganrogers1274Right, mate?! I still have difficulties to process what I've just heard and read here.
      Some people fail to understand what a Nation means, what a Homeland means. Very often those mean everything.
      And they have a direct meaning for every single life, since it's very beginning.
      But there are people like this in every country so, nothing unusual, after all.

    • @kingdomofnolandcolnzy464
      @kingdomofnolandcolnzy464 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Here we go! First somes dream of building the country then others think it is wise to create wars in which will fight somes who dream of dying for it... I guess this world needs its dreamers🙄
      Fight for yourself and those who are closer to you.

    • @Gage119
      @Gage119 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kalinandonov2799what country do you live in

    • @kingdomofnolandcolnzy464
      @kingdomofnolandcolnzy464 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@Gage119 The world's my country I call home where ever I choose to call home🙄

  • @BeraubtWerden
    @BeraubtWerden 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Easy for a girl who are not burdened to die in a war to say things like that

    • @vosilerg
      @vosilerg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Real criminals are helping Ukrainian women dodge the draft.

  • @bavery6957
    @bavery6957 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    I have a Ukrainian student whose family has lived here in Austria for the last 15 years. Her father went back to take care of some maintenance on their house, which they were renting out. He left on Friday, Feb 18th. He's still there - can't come back...

    • @BaconNationChannel
      @BaconNationChannel ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Damn.. feels bad. ☹

    • @ricardosmythe2548
      @ricardosmythe2548 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Good. He should be fighting to defend his homeland.

    • @bavery6957
      @bavery6957 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      @@ricardosmythe2548 Yeah, the business he built over a decade went belly up, his wife and kids are living on the dole, the family car is in Ukraine and the the kids are going to lose the only home they've ever known to foreclosure. You call that "good", eh, Rambo? Good is what you are NOT...

    • @28gire-jp1tw
      @28gire-jp1tw ปีที่แล้ว +36

      ​@@bavery6957It's called war. When your leaders are refusing to seek peace but making sure that this war keeps on going, that's the consequences. Rarely do wars end in victory for one side these days. They end on the negotiating table.

    • @giantWario
      @giantWario ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ricardosmythe2548 If you feel that strongly over it, you can go fight yourself. Ukraine has a foreign legion. Come on, put your money where your mouth is.

  • @NaturallyTheCat
    @NaturallyTheCat ปีที่แล้ว +108

    so funny that the person saying that people need to go to the front lines and die for theier countries is doing it in a luxury hotel

    • @mrrobot6757
      @mrrobot6757 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Glad i wasn't the only one to observe that... 🌍☮️

    • @WinterGK
      @WinterGK ปีที่แล้ว

      Except she didn't give her personal opinion.
      She said she doesn't know any Ukrainian that doesn't want to fight and as long as its the will of the people then people need to fight

    • @piotrsobczak2866
      @piotrsobczak2866 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Luxury hotel in other country

    • @χσχσ-ν3χ
      @χσχσ-ν3χ ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@WinterGK she said she is a ho of clownlenky so she is immune to fight

    • @MrChvic
      @MrChvic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      with well dressed waitstaff moving back and forth with food and drinks behind her.

  • @hornerfarah2282
    @hornerfarah2282 ปีที่แล้ว +693

    I saw a video long ago about Ukrainians men being beaten in streets for refusing to fight and most of them who being forced to fight surrounded themselves in the slightest chance to the Russian army. It just shows that a portion of the Ukrainian men who fighting don't have the intend to fight and being forced to fight against their well. And in the end they would end up just as number in the list of casualties

    • @whatsgoingon71
      @whatsgoingon71 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I've seen what you describe, but it happened in Russia.

    • @hornerfarah2282
      @hornerfarah2282 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@whatsgoingon71 Russia economy would collapsed if Russians send all their men in the war. Russia already have enough to continue fighting and most of conscripted men came from prisons unlike Ukraine which their economy is under life support.

    • @whatsgoingon71
      @whatsgoingon71 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hornerfarah2282 Russian economy can stand to lose a couple of million men. They are not manufacturing anything, they sell less oil and Gas, than before. Their tech and IT sectors are already suffering because they lost foreign customers and thousands of workers left the country.
      The only thing that keeps putin from calling a real mobilization, is the fact that it would end his regime.

    • @AndreiPopescu
      @AndreiPopescu ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Why don't those, who beat the ones who refuse to fight, go to the front line and beat some enemies?

    • @zvonkobogdan9634
      @zvonkobogdan9634 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      @@whatsgoingon71 l've seen hundreds of video it happening in Ukraine. Hunderds....
      Imagine, probably considering not even 5% of it is filmed how much is it happening? True 3reich

  • @nidendo
    @nidendo ปีที่แล้ว +65

    How do they imagine victory over a country with nuclear weapons? People are dying because of the ignorance of a few politicians...

    • @MissKilley
      @MissKilley ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, the victory for Ukraine will be to stop the war and to retain the land, not to conquer Russia. And they still can make Russia stop, having a nuclear weapons doesn't guarantee the automatic victory otherwise this war would have ended 1,5 years ago

    • @Wildcard120
      @Wildcard120 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is your solution that the Ukrainians surrender?

    • @Tommy-zs6ro
      @Tommy-zs6ro 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A military victory over Russia is not possible, they think the Russians will overthrow Putin and allow the west to install a puppet so they can fleece Russia dry

  • @maksimks4030
    @maksimks4030 ปีที่แล้ว +585

    In Ukraine, mobilization has been taking place using illegal methods recently. It's simply kidnapping. A guy was standing at a bus stop, a car pulled up and the military came out and pushed the guy by force. They took me to the military registration and enlistment office, and in the evening I was assigned to a military training unit. There are thousands of such cases

    • @sanctusboy9382
      @sanctusboy9382 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      і шо ти, де зараз?

    • @maksimks4030
      @maksimks4030 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sanctusboy9382 працюю вдома, добре що робота дозволяє!

    • @robinelliott-ni2eh
      @robinelliott-ni2eh ปีที่แล้ว +37

      ​@@sanctusboy9382he's in a apartment in Moscow.

    • @lolstalgic9602
      @lolstalgic9602 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ​@@robinelliott-ni2eh You can track his IP address?

    • @lauchlanguddy1004
      @lauchlanguddy1004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      all lies Ivan... all lies, so, only one guy at the bus stop?? what garbage, hundreds of men on the bus every hour.. utter garbage

  • @GoofyGoober3792
    @GoofyGoober3792 ปีที่แล้ว +543

    I am from Ukraine and I left, because it started to become worse.
    I had the right to not serve due to my father's health, but half a year ago they dismissed this law just 1 month after I finally left the country.
    They changed the commanders of the draft centers, but NOTHING CHANGED. Just a week ago in Ternopil there was a video how men that refuse to go to army are detain in an unknown place, are humiliated and beaten. Don't believe me? Copy paste this Тернопіль ТЦК побиття.
    Reasons why I left are corruption, no rights for men when they are drafted and limitation of rights in general and due to all this no safety and future. Our government has now complete power over people and it is like heroin - not so easy to stop it.

    • @vutruong7761
      @vutruong7761 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I hope you stay safe and treasure your life wherever you are. Everybody only live ONE.

    • @natalialaba7974
      @natalialaba7974 ปีที่แล้ว

      Хто буде захищати Україну від убивць і окупантів 🇷🇺Z☠️??

    • @irrelevantdumbass5307
      @irrelevantdumbass5307 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would you want to fight for one of the most corrupt governments in Europe , for some actor funded by American imperialists that puts on a green costume interpreting the role of some "hero". Glad you had the money to get out , but sadly the poor Ukrainians that can't afford to flee the country are forced to go to the meat grinder and die for nothing.

    • @McHallel
      @McHallel ปีที่แล้ว +22

      who did you voted for or if you could? if zelensky its your own fault

    • @aphelios9157
      @aphelios9157 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zelensky is a corrupt dictator at the service of the US, he could have signed peace but chose to send thousands to die for nothing.

  • @calichenj
    @calichenj ปีที่แล้ว +627

    I don't understand why Ukrainian men don't wanna die for American and European Oligarchs. It's beyond me 🤔

    • @jonye7511
      @jonye7511 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Some prefer Russian oligarchs or just don't have the psychological wherewithal to defend their nearest or themselves.

    • @lwandotunzana6012
      @lwandotunzana6012 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      😂😂

    • @Whataboutism-o8j
      @Whataboutism-o8j ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Do you want to die for Russian oligarchs?🤣

    • @calichenj
      @calichenj ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @@Whataboutism-o8j In that case, don't you think Russians fighting for Russian Oligarchs makes a little more sense than Ukrainians fighting for Western Oligarchs?

    • @Whataboutism-o8j
      @Whataboutism-o8j ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@calichenj of course not. how do you know ruzzia oligarchs would still exist a while later? soviet union,a superpower which was 10 times more powerful than ruzzia in 2023, invaded afghanstan in 1979 and eventually soviet union was annihilated in 1991. soviet union DOESN'T EXIST IN 2023.why will you die for those ruzzis oligarchs that will be eliminated?

  • @As0vReal
    @As0vReal ปีที่แล้ว +34

    a friend of mine was in germany for work he went back to ukraine to renew his visa and the war started since the war has started he hasn't gone outside out of fear that they will take him to war he said that one day his neighbour took his tractor out to his farm and as he went into the tractor a minivan came and they just took him he later learned that he was sent to lithuania to get trained he hasn't heard from him since then

  • @n.m6249
    @n.m6249 ปีที่แล้ว +467

    "There's no guarantees that's the country will exist after my death" thats really touching 😭💔

    • @andia968
      @andia968 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      eu citizens should volunteer themselves to fight russia as many as possible

    • @solaireastora5394
      @solaireastora5394 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      ​@@andia968there are plenty of foreign legions in Ukraine, you should join, or maybe wagner is more your thing

    • @andia968
      @andia968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@solaireastora5394 not enuff foreign legions

    • @sshpeppermint
      @sshpeppermint ปีที่แล้ว +37

      ​@@andia968 still not enough deaths for you?

    • @phatbeatsbadnews2724
      @phatbeatsbadnews2724 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Death and taxes are what are what we will all pay some day. Think before you act

  • @zakariyeyahye5566
    @zakariyeyahye5566 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    “When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals.” - Edward Snowden

    • @whatsgoingon71
      @whatsgoingon71 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It's funny, that Snowden is in the criminal's den now.

    • @innerparty1
      @innerparty1 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@whatsgoingon71it's not funny, it's a tragedy of so called free West that such a man would be prosecuted for exposing the truth.

    • @zasmirko100
      @zasmirko100 ปีที่แล้ว

      "fight for those who sit in power making money from the death..." Ukrainians repeatedly emphasized that they are not fighting for their Government or politicians but for the Freedom of their people and independence of their country. Sadly there are those who are not interested of those, who are indifferent about their nations and countries fate. Are they Ukrainians? I am not thinking they are.

    • @djackson4605
      @djackson4605 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@whatsgoingon71 How's that funny? Seems like an existential crisis nationally with international implications as well. Your comment encapsulates exactly how apathetic people are becoming. You think that's good, bad or do you even care?

    • @soapbubble13
      @soapbubble13 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check this in Google :"sambir, Lviv region. beating of a man in the territorial recruitment center". They tried to force two guys to sign military

  • @theworld7094
    @theworld7094 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    We have to do it for our children; said by the one who is not at the war front

    • @UkraineNeeds
      @UkraineNeeds ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He's got a point.

    • @inigomeniego4906
      @inigomeniego4906 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      She should go fight to the frontline, since she talks so much about "unfortunately some men don't want to fight"

    • @Emperor-Inker
      @Emperor-Inker ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@inigomeniego4906even if she did, it wouldn't be mandatory as she wouldn't be forced against her will for a war machine meat grinder

    • @Emperor-Inker
      @Emperor-Inker ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Unfortunately this needs to be a reminder mainly to men, your life isn't seen as your own but as a possession of the state / country you live in.
      At any time they can demand you lay down your life for their agenda, let the people choose.
      If you run out of willing to fight soldiers unfortunately no matter how horrific the war is you've lost. No more human sacrifice, we need peace talks immediately.

    • @inigomeniego4906
      @inigomeniego4906 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Emperor-Inker well, I understand ukrainian fighting heroes. Fighting for a country that will move on, women who will reject them because they are poor and lost a leg at war. Fighting while the rich don't.
      They are right to not want peace until Russia gives every centimeter back, pays for all the destruction and lives taken and asks for pardon. Putin is a monster

  • @curlymorty711
    @curlymorty711 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    As one of the many Ukrainians who left their own country, I wanna affirm, that there is no rights, no law it’s literally the worst country in Europe I can almost compare it to North Korea because it isn’t so far from the truth. First of all it’s a totally corrupt government, that’s why our country is so poor (btw the most poor in Europe, even including Moldova). Secondly it’s an absence of the law, as I said before, even the courts are corrupt, so you can’t defend yourself and your rights. The men in the suit can just kidnap you right on the street (after beating you, if you persist) considering that it’s completely Illegal and the police will do nothing when this happens right in the front of them, because they work against people. In our country pensions of 40$ bruh….
    That’s not like I don’t wanna serve in the army, but not in the Ukrainian army. I don’t wanna die or become crippled for this country considering the above reasons, I’d rather suicide than they force me to go to fight for this trash. I’d rather serve in the US military or some other military of Europe like Germany or UK

    • @ivanyashchenko790
      @ivanyashchenko790 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. That’s how it is. Kidnapping on the street by force. Police do nothing. Courts are corrupted. Confirm.

    • @edyslavico3761
      @edyslavico3761 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      nice story ruski bot

    • @curlymorty711
      @curlymorty711 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@edyslavico3761 я з України, якщо тобі 16 і тебе на вулиці не чіпає тцк, це не значить, що цього немає, корупцію ти не можеш ніяк заперечувати, недотримання конституції місцевими елітами та ї хабарництво - також, давай не розказуй, який ти патріот і яка Україна велика, бо ти геть не на фронті. Говорити щось про те що ми найбідніша країна - також не варто, це й так всім відомо, Гугл просто існує

    • @vasili-jy8yb
      @vasili-jy8yb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have noticed that the Kiev regime is purporsly mobilizing all the men to fight and die in Russian speaking cities like Odessa, and haven't even touched the residents of western Ukraine like Lviv.
      It is simply clear, Ukraine's Russian speaking population is treated as second class citizens, the state doesn't care for them at all, the state mostly cares for those catholic Ukrainian Galicians living in far west Ukraine... they want the Russian speaking population to die, so that Ukraine could become more homogenous.
      I am not talking nonsense, it is a fact. This is why, I would advice you to manage a way to sneak into Russia. I know you may not like it, but 5 million Ukrainians have done the same. They have fled to Russia, cause Russia is the only place they have for a safe future. In places like Poland, Ukrainian men are getting deported back to Ukraine to fight in the meat grinder.
      Take care my friend! Go to Russia asap! the Kiev regime is growing desperate everyday, trying to snatch all Ukrainian men they could from neighbouring countries to die. Russia is the only place where you and other Ukrainians are completely safe.

    • @КЛИН-е2з
      @КЛИН-е2з 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Бро я с тобой согласен. Только не нужно служить в западных армиях. В конце концов именно они и затеяли эту войну. Даже мирный договор отвергли, когда борис джонсон прилетел и всё испортил. Любить запад себя не уважать, особенно если ты из украины

  • @hootans.4293
    @hootans.4293 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    Rescuing them from a bear, then placing them in the path of a much larger bear, all under the watchful eyes of border guards who believe they are saving them - a truly fascinating twist.

    • @Greysquirrel98
      @Greysquirrel98 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A large bear, yes. But a vodka-guzzling, mentally disabled large bear at best

    • @Cavebabyberserker
      @Cavebabyberserker ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Greysquirrel98COPE

    • @SofieTrump2024
      @SofieTrump2024 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Greysquirrel98Russia wants a neutral Ukraine. Half of Europe was neutral during ww2. But Biden wanted a war and now Ukrainians are paying the price. Listen to Colonel McGregor.
      Russia has 80 countries against them. Id say they are doing well

    • @marktsvetanov6038
      @marktsvetanov6038 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@Greysquirrel98imagine being funded by 30 countries, live 24/7/365 satellite and drone and plane coverage. Soldiers trained to nato standards and use nato equipment with help with nato generals and yet in 4 months they couldn’t even poke the mentally disabled and drunk bear. If that’s the case then Ukraine is missing all of its chromosomes 😂

    • @NLTops
      @NLTops ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@marktsvetanov6038 Russia's military losses indicate otherwise. Ukraine also liberated 4x more territory in the 2nd year of the war than Russia conquered, and they're not stopping yet. Russian common people are far less willing to fight than Ukrainians. People are always far more willing to defend their country than to attack another.

  • @hidebehind2604
    @hidebehind2604 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    NO MAN CAN SAY THEY ARE FREE AS LONG AS THEIR GOVERNMENT CAN FORCIBLY MAKE THEM FIGHT IN A WAR, THEY ARE AGAINST.

    • @northstar1878
      @northstar1878 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hence those men should declare war on their own government and destroy that government from the inside out.

    • @calvinhoward3808
      @calvinhoward3808 ปีที่แล้ว

      We need to stick together and declare war on feminism. No more women sending men to their death while sitting on their rears.

    • @terencefranks1688
      @terencefranks1688 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      well said !

    • @theminuskai7453
      @theminuskai7453 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      thats when you simply leave the country and let the oil barons and bankers mind their own business

    • @youahoeu
      @youahoeu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theminuskai7453 yea its so easy to do , just leave 4head

  • @shivexshivute1382
    @shivexshivute1382 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    Just like not everyone wants to be a politician so not everyone wants to be a soldier 😢

    • @soeren72
      @soeren72 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But then you also loos the right to your country, it's not a game

    • @crymeaariver
      @crymeaariver ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😢

    • @tommytomas-fr3sh
      @tommytomas-fr3sh ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That's just like the Germans who want to escape the Berlin Wall.

    • @mosesgreen7748
      @mosesgreen7748 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crymeaariver for

    • @different_stuff
      @different_stuff ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@soeren72 pfff, ok. That's not big of a deal

  • @mikhailkochergin5009
    @mikhailkochergin5009 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    "Ukrainians are very strong, they can fight as long as it's necessary" (c) Elena Zelenskaya, first lady of Ukraine @ her London apartment

    • @masha1414k
      @masha1414k ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yep after she just spent $1,000,000 buying herself new jewelry

    • @unsalbulent
      @unsalbulent ปีที่แล้ว

      Girls can leave Ukraine. They are living a luxury lifestyle shopping expensive bags shoes clothes. Travelling western countries having fun in luxury hotels clubs. I respect people who is fighting for freedom in the army. But i do not respect girls spending thousands of euro for a luxury life and having fun in other countries when ukaine poeple need money.

  • @paulcock8929
    @paulcock8929 ปีที่แล้ว +320

    My God! Those border watchers are telling us that they are saving lives while they are trying to catch people who don't want to be slaughtered on the battlefields.

    • @Constantin198413
      @Constantin198413 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      hypocrisy ... the Word to describe the ukranian Government ...

    • @MarincaGheorghe
      @MarincaGheorghe ปีที่แล้ว +4

      At least your comrades are fighting for toilets pieces in a war of conquest is it ? They get something out of it.

    • @antons1097
      @antons1097 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HakayLeoShello, mr. Ukrainian bot. You try to oppose things that are evident to any Ukrainian on the street, to win western support. You look miserable, especially since this is the way you have to earn a living. As a Ukrainian citizen I can confirm hypocrisy is insane in our country.

    • @ricardosmythe2548
      @ricardosmythe2548 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Men have a duty to defend there country if its invaded.

    • @crushnevnikita8575
      @crushnevnikita8575 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Well in a democratic country like ukraine if you don't want to be cannon fodder you are jailed and facing some horror "things"..

  • @luizrodolfosilva6177
    @luizrodolfosilva6177 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    Henry Kissinger once said: "To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”

    • @alibalaabdullahi6531
      @alibalaabdullahi6531 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Absolutely true

    • @lmfao9299
      @lmfao9299 ปีที่แล้ว

      Machiavellian government

    • @bdleo300
      @bdleo300 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      He also said: "I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves."
      Same with Ukraine. Maidan coup. The source of this tragedy.

    • @avtoera
      @avtoera ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He said it about russia.

    • @avtoera
      @avtoera ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@bdleo300the source of this tragedy is that Russia brought to power in Ukraine president Yanukovych and a government that were puppets of Moscow. This led to a revolution on Maydan. You should study the history of Ukraine better!

  • @illiakhmaladze2071
    @illiakhmaladze2071 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    Thank you for shedding light on this topic! Please please please, continue educating people and letting them know that not everyone wants to go to war. We are prisoners in our own country.
    I was lucky enough to escape this nightmare, however, right now, I can't visit my parents who are still in Ukraine, and honestly, do not know when I will get the opportunity to see them in person. So my main job is to settle where I am today and be able to provide not only for my wife and son who was born 2 days before the war had started but also for my parents.

    • @rubenramirez6589
      @rubenramirez6589 ปีที่แล้ว

      En Donde estás ?

    • @illiakhmaladze2071
      @illiakhmaladze2071 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@rubenramirez6589Moved to Georgia and currently staying here in my uncle’s place

    • @valdemariv394
      @valdemariv394 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Poor fellow, don't worry I'll stay in the trenches instead of you as long as it takes. My pregnant wife will be okay, she doesn't need a husband near her.

    • @clemsmith8799
      @clemsmith8799 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Freedom is not Free. After the fighting is over they will draft a bill of rights, This bill of rights will guarantee Freedom to the courageous. The cowardly will then chip away at this freedom out of fear until one day the fighting will need to start again, to restore the bill of rights. It is a viscous cycle of the cowardly vs the courageous.

    • @Felled-angel
      @Felled-angel ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ​@@valdemariv394your only duty was to protect your wife and child, yet the clown convinced you that this war with no hope of winning is worth every drop of Your blood
      How in God's name did someone convince you that your duty fell first to your country and not to your wife and kids? if your son doesn't find his father in the home he'll find one in the Streets, I hope you know that.

  • @b-art6098
    @b-art6098 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    That tattoo guy explained it perfectly, I have a cousin that was a "hero" when he went into the war in early 1990's. Probably you know which war. He came back a broken man, after that no steady job, no girlfriend, no education because he was 20 when he joined, and never talked about the war. So you know how bad it was. Not worth it, most of that in war "liberated" land is now abandoned, no one lives there. Also mines everywhere in the ground.

    • @martinrolecek8837
      @martinrolecek8837 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I was deployed under NATO in to same war at age of 18. My life been very similar struggle as you cousins, please remind him that he's not alone and despite all the horrors we had to do for our masters we are still humans.

    • @eXclusive1
      @eXclusive1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This should be top comment.

    • @soapbubble13
      @soapbubble13 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check this in Google :"sambir, Lviv region. beating of a man in the territorial recruitment center". They tried to force two guys to sign military

    • @user-whiteper
      @user-whiteper ปีที่แล้ว +9

      At 2014 ukranian government trick me and send to a Donbass war. I've back home alive after 3 month ( my brigade where i served was abandoned by officers and left us to die) After this I' have promised to myself that i never join any military forces.

  • @jaroslavprucha9198
    @jaroslavprucha9198 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I feel sorry for Ukrainian men, especially young men in their late teens / early 20s. Most young women left and now are partying and dating foreigners in different European countries, while the men are essentially imprisoned and expected to suffer and die for their country. How many of these women will later return? What will the men do after the war? Die alone, suffering from physical and psychological wounds that won't heal? Building a family is one of the most fundamental desires of almost all people, men included.
    It does feel like a self-inflicted ethnic cleansing, as this will cause a massive demographic crisis in the next decades. Either let the men who wish to leave or have similar requirements for the women.

    • @highwalhalla
      @highwalhalla ปีที่แล้ว

      They were crop through thresher in this faked war between Russia and the west.

    • @eliotness4029
      @eliotness4029 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t understand why Ukrainians living in Lviv need to defend Crimea, where they have never been and never will

    • @windygreychannel
      @windygreychannel ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How did you end up blaming the women? Your logic is very twisted - if 1 suffers, all should. If you did say: let everyone that wants to leave, leave - I would have agreed.. The way you put it is plain spite. Blame the politicians that work for the weapon companies of other countries and kill their own people…

    • @jaroslavprucha9198
      @jaroslavprucha9198 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@windygreychannel
      "If you did say: let everyone that wants to leave, leave - I would have agreed"
      And I actually did say that as one of the options - either let men leave too or have women stay with men (and perhaps do a quota of people allowed to leave regardless of their gender - for universities for example).
      So you didn't even bother finishing reading my comment.

    • @incognito1539
      @incognito1539 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jaroslavprucha9198
      or have women stay with men? Really!?
      You want women to stay in a warzone? What kind of a man are you dude?

  • @eymeeraosaka2954
    @eymeeraosaka2954 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    Why is it so difficult to understand why Ukrainian refused to fight? They are being forced to fight for someone cause which they do not believe in, facing certain death in a war that is already lost before it even started...

    • @Enri99
      @Enri99 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah in the beginning they was optimistic and motivated by the false narrative told by the gov now they see the reality of that war, the highly amount of causalities that western media don't talk about in a war which it was lost from the start and bring ukranians to certain death

    • @francotrinh5692
      @francotrinh5692 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't tell truth cuz maybe NATO agents are watching you

    • @carved6749
      @carved6749 ปีที่แล้ว

      Their literally fighting for their sovereignty.

    • @TheKakan1337
      @TheKakan1337 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, you are right, Iran should stop supplying weapons to Russia they are only prolonging the war and causing more Russian deaths.

    • @rykson161
      @rykson161 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Russia will never be defeated

  • @Hamsafar2016
    @Hamsafar2016 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Dear Ukrainians Don't die for NATO or Zelensky.
    Ukrainian youth has right to live .Why should they sacrifice their lives for Expansion of NATO.

    • @hendrickswart4122
      @hendrickswart4122 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Several western leaders did alreay stated that "THEY" will fight till the last drop of Ukrainian blood.
      So sad.

  • @stressfreesasaki6570
    @stressfreesasaki6570 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    Better to live than to lose your life in this senseless war

    • @idwtgymn
      @idwtgymn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lu544 You seriously just defended Ukraine enslaving people by saying Russia would enslave them otherwise. Its like people caught up in the propoganda can't even hear themselves.

    • @breakfast00club..11
      @breakfast00club..11 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@lu544 You should fight America needs you in the Front

    • @Sunny45553
      @Sunny45553 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      ​@@lu544Ukrainian and Russians are the same people dude, there was Ukraine before the 90s

    • @benjaminrobinson9140
      @benjaminrobinson9140 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      if you wont defend your country then no country should want you.

    • @breakfast00club..11
      @breakfast00club..11 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@benjaminrobinson9140 You should fight America needs you in the Front

  • @99skyroxx
    @99skyroxx ปีที่แล้ว +463

    Not everybody is ok with taking a life. Most people don't wanna lose their own. This war is insane.

    • @4rmDEC2FRE
      @4rmDEC2FRE ปีที่แล้ว +66

      zelensky doesn’t care

    • @AtemerusRhayli
      @AtemerusRhayli ปีที่แล้ว +26

      well is either fight or get fricked by the ruskies. They should know very well that.

    • @bradleyroth9870
      @bradleyroth9870 ปีที่แล้ว

      Putler is insane we know.

    • @morphkogan8627
      @morphkogan8627 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@4rmDEC2FRE Based off what?

    • @StevenMehler-j3k
      @StevenMehler-j3k ปีที่แล้ว

      All wars are insane. The insanity of the governments

  • @AdeleKakwandi
    @AdeleKakwandi ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I don't blame them, dying or getting your legs blown off for a US proxy war isn't the life.

    • @MyrothasMcMillan
      @MyrothasMcMillan ปีที่แล้ว +5

      and you crated your account for this?

    • @AdeleKakwandi
      @AdeleKakwandi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MyrothasMcMillan Crated what? Why don't you learn to spell properly ?🤡😆

    • @calvinhoward3808
      @calvinhoward3808 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not dying or getting your legs blown off...it's getting your legs blown off AND dying. Ukraine forces the disabled to serve too as was reported by DW.

    • @s.a.t419
      @s.a.t419 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​. He's 100 percent right

    • @seed3745
      @seed3745 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd rather die as a soldier than as a useless civilian.

  • @Fullah-Prince23
    @Fullah-Prince23 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Very sad for the poor man, being forced to fight and die just to become a number

    • @unsalbulent
      @unsalbulent ปีที่แล้ว

      Girls can leave Ukraine. They are living a luxury lifestyle shopping expensive bags shoes clothes. Travelling western countries having fun in luxury hotels clubs. I respect people who is fighting for freedom in the army. But i do not respect girls spending thousands of euro for a luxury life and having fun in other countries when ukaine poeple need money.

  • @gunslinger9171
    @gunslinger9171 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    I am sure all the rich Ukrainians are in Poland cheering from afar...

    • @EliHaNavi
      @EliHaNavi ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Poland? Nope. Try England or Switzerland better.

    • @sumotony
      @sumotony ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@EliHaNavi Rich Ukranians are Oligarchs who can move between countries in "Ruski Mir" also known in western history as turncoats. Therefore more likely to be living in Moscow.

    • @trqster
      @trqster ปีที่แล้ว +44

      In my country I see a lot of ukrainian luxury cars around, but I'm sure they're just taking a break before volunteering to the frontlines to fight the Z's

    • @ginxxxxx
      @ginxxxxx ปีที่แล้ว +10

      can you explain why this war is even happening? because of the failures of our leaders - oho also do not fight and who also cheer (and pollute 10000 more)

    • @supriadiramlan5545
      @supriadiramlan5545 ปีที่แล้ว

      now Ukraine starting recruiting woman to fight
      soon will see more Ukrainian woman exodus to other countries

  • @ROCnotforsale
    @ROCnotforsale ปีที่แล้ว +48

    If you have "a lot of people who want to fight" then why would you still need conscription? Zero tolerance for corruption? Something is not adding up here. 😂😂😂😂

    • @yakovlevskiy
      @yakovlevskiy ปีที่แล้ว

      because no one wants to fight in the 21st century! If you are opposed by the disenfranchised masses of people who are recruited without problems, then how can you stop them without conscription!?

    • @VItarcheg
      @VItarcheg ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, there is a lot of people who want to fight. But it is not enough. It is never enough actually. If two comparable countries fight and one uses conscription and other one dont - the other one just loses the war. Russia uses conscription alright. And especially they draft from the occipied territories. And ukrainians end up killing each other. What a madness.

    • @ROCnotforsale
      @ROCnotforsale ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VItarcheg Not sure if I know what you are talking about. Ukrainians started killing each other in 2014.

    • @ROCnotforsale
      @ROCnotforsale ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VItarcheg The biggest problem in Ukraine has always been corruption. The Ukrainian mentality is very much like Russians, except Ukrainians have lied to themselves that somehow they live in a full democracy with proper rule of law. What Ukrainains should have done was to reform their government WITHOUT the influence of the West. The US meddled in Ukrainian internal affairs in the name of "promoting democracy and combating corruption." In reality, the US was also bribing Ukrainian politicians to do what the US wants. Russia saw this as unacceptable due to "sphere of influence." Many, and I mean MANY Ukrianian politicians don't care where they get their bribes from either Russia or the US as long as they get rich. This kind of chaos is what led to the current situation in Ukraine. Right now the average fighting age in Ukraine is 40+ and yes, this is pure madness. Zelensky really needs to rethink what is more important for his country.

  • @sapientum8
    @sapientum8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The biggest hawks are always those who know that they will never have to be on the frontlines.

  • @WingmanAlpha
    @WingmanAlpha ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hundred thousand of Ukrainian are already wounded or dead. This war cannot be won at a front line. The young men are realizing this.

  • @HGoyas
    @HGoyas ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Smart boys. Life is too much precious to die for a corrupt clown and his puppet master.

    • @johnanderson5242
      @johnanderson5242 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just like the smart boys who are dying for Putin so he can become richer,fancy that, billionaires in a communist country where they are supposed to share the wealth .

    • @manniehalmagean5555
      @manniehalmagean5555 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      💯 Zelensky wife just went on a shopping spree over million dollars so of course they don’t want to die for them.

    • @barma1309
      @barma1309 ปีที่แล้ว

      База

    • @floki9493
      @floki9493 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cant have victory over nuclear power country. No sense to even try...

    • @nandofim
      @nandofim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍

  • @YevheniiHrabko
    @YevheniiHrabko ปีที่แล้ว +96

    How dare they?! We borrow them money to die for our purposes and now they don’t wanna to die?! They are so ungrateful

    • @bdleo300
      @bdleo300 ปีที่แล้ว

      They don't want to die for Joe Biden? How dare they!

    • @diawannoto
      @diawannoto ปีที่แล้ว

      hahhahaha

    • @Dima-mc9ue
      @Dima-mc9ue ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, we are!

    • @YevheniiHrabko
      @YevheniiHrabko ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dima-mc9ue чому не державною?!

    • @nandofim
      @nandofim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😁

  • @Jaderabbit9
    @Jaderabbit9 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I feel sad for poor Ukrainian people who are being forcefully recruited into army at Gun point. Right to Live is a privilege not everyone can afford in Ukraine. Peace to all..

    • @criticaljacques2237
      @criticaljacques2237 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For a regime they never asked for

    • @eddybrevet6816
      @eddybrevet6816 ปีที่แล้ว

      Respect 4 those who put life on line

    • @Tubiduubi
      @Tubiduubi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People have the right to chose to live. People have absolute right for selfdefence. If politics go on the battlefield the war is over.

    • @eddybrevet6816
      @eddybrevet6816 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, so sad wt about the Russians, forced to fight, shot 4 refusing, get real,

    • @Dima-mc9ue
      @Dima-mc9ue ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you and best wishes from Kiev

  • @Butterflywm8
    @Butterflywm8 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    What do you mean illegal crossing the border?
    You as a journalists have to raise a major issue which facing Ukrainian men since war started - no human rights! They locked in a country as prisoners in a time when Ukrainian government became incredibly rich, corrupt and cynical.
    People simply do not want to die for oligarchs country
    Most of parents forced to leave the Ukraine with sons before their 17th years.
    I’m a mother and I do not need the Ukraine without my son life

    • @SimonMester
      @SimonMester 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's crazy to me. There is evidence of press gangs, borders locked down, and dissenting opinions silenced. And when Orban vetoes supporting the war, all the press say "he does it because he is a putin puppet!". When if you ask their envoys, they tell you they dislike the corruption of UKR state and human rights abuses... I'm no Putin fan, he is just as evil, but at least the media doesnt pretend he isnt. And yet UKR state is shown as if they were angels. Corrupt bastards, forcing people to die for them.

    • @lauraalbu56
      @lauraalbu56 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ''What do you mean illegal crossing the border? '' It mean, you didn't pay 10,000 euros to the border guards, money that goes to parliamentarians like this girl talking about.

  • @lightghost7524
    @lightghost7524 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Imagine not being allowed to flee a warzone just because of your gender

    • @marcoprolo1488
      @marcoprolo1488 ปีที่แล้ว

      I understand Ukraine is fighting for lgbtq+ rights too. Let's pretend I am a girl !

    • @blackpanthar906
      @blackpanthar906 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      And then feminists having the nerve to bash you for your gender.

    • @williamgary7891
      @williamgary7891 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a good idea they could become trans

    • @joebidenisyourpresidentget2481
      @joebidenisyourpresidentget2481 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Imagine proclaiming to be stronger and faster than women and then complaining that all the responsibility of defense falls on you.

    • @williamgary7891
      @williamgary7891 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joebidenisyourpresidentget2481 I don't understand a man that hates his own country

  • @ombotak2
    @ombotak2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    You're not allowed to leave the country, it means they have to choose between jail or die, so there's no volunteer fighter

    • @steveb1325
      @steveb1325 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Apart from the ones that volunteered to fight for their country.... 🤣😂 If you bothered to look into it, you would see many volunteered in the opening days of the war. So many that the Ukrainian government didn't have the arms to equip them properly. Yet they still went out in militia groups unarmed and helped push the Russians back from around Kyiv.
      Every nation has people that are willing to hide in order to save their own skin, while letting others do the fighting for them.

    • @michaelfaraday8391
      @michaelfaraday8391 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@steveb1325only few were volunteered the rest were forced.

    • @vilmarojas693
      @vilmarojas693 ปีที่แล้ว

      COWARD

    • @UkraineNeeds
      @UkraineNeeds ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Most wereForced

    • @basiwolf9147
      @basiwolf9147 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@steveb1325 volunteers die first...

  • @regar4s
    @regar4s ปีที่แล้ว +92

    You don't know Ukraine well, but what you should know is that when the desire to leave is massive then it's not about the men, but something about the state system on all levels. Citizens here were never valued. No wonder many don't want to lose health or life

    • @lauchlanguddy1004
      @lauchlanguddy1004 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ukranians love ukraine with a passion, ivan.

    • @regar4s
      @regar4s ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lauchlanguddy1004 so you think you know Ukraine better then the person who lived here for 40 plus years. Yes, ruzzia is a fascist and a terrorist state and current Ukrainian government is a mixture of total incompetence and extreme greediness, javier

    • @АндрейДеревянко-й1о
      @АндрейДеревянко-й1о ปีที่แล้ว +26

      ​@@lauchlanguddy1004why if someone's opinion doesn't comply with yours, you claim him russian ? Are people like you the only true Ukrainians ?

    • @rrb2nd
      @rrb2nd ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@lauchlanguddy1004 you are American aren’t you?

    • @VItarcheg
      @VItarcheg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yet the system is never ideal. Name me a country where there were no people who'd like to avoid dying in the war.

  • @svetlanak7766
    @svetlanak7766 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Well educated people very well understand what this fight is about and most likely are abroad by now.

  • @ItsAstie
    @ItsAstie ปีที่แล้ว +39

    As an ordinary human being, the most important person to you is yourself, you should never place an imaginary border above your life, no country is worth dying for.

    • @ellusivegman
      @ellusivegman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol, russia's sovereignty is more important than everyone else's i guess.

  • @arieskibet6443
    @arieskibet6443 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    It is a "cheaper way" to "weaken Russia" or so they tell us

    • @ryujijoh250
      @ryujijoh250 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lloyd Austin has openly said the goal of this war is to weaken Russia. Ukrainians are giving their lives for US global hegemony.

    • @WinterGK
      @WinterGK ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What is cheaper? And why is it in quotations?

    • @UkraineNeeds
      @UkraineNeeds ปีที่แล้ว +5

      CheapFodder? Ok

    • @felipe-vibor
      @felipe-vibor ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@WinterGKcheaper because it's Ukrainian lives being lost not the west and it's in quotation because weakening Russia is a myth that will never materialize

    • @theaterofsouls
      @theaterofsouls ปีที่แล้ว +14

      well, technically it is... but at the expense of Ukraine... they could have had just surrendered from the get go, but no they got cozy with the US lol

  • @Corsuwey
    @Corsuwey ปีที่แล้ว +216

    I completely agree... There are people who love Ukraine and support the military, but just don't want to fight. Also, there are the soldiers who do want to fight but don't want to have to work with or rely on someone who doesn't want to fight. It's not a win-win situation.

    • @anzelmasmatutis2500
      @anzelmasmatutis2500 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Corsuwey Not all Army have duties in front line. You can help defend your country behind the line.
      Those who flee just want to use Right of Ukrainian passport WITHOUT paying Dues according Constitution article 65. I.e. They want FREE RIDE without any OBLIGATION.

    • @lucillebaltazar910
      @lucillebaltazar910 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its so sad for human suffering ,lost love ones ,war turns apart the family.But I’m still praying for the Ukraininians soldiers to continue serving and save there country.💪💪🇺🇦🇺🇦🙏🙏

    • @rl945
      @rl945 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Love for Ukraine without the willingness to fight for her sovereignty and freedom is a tourist’s love. Hundreds of millions of people around the globe “love” Paris and Jerusalem. However, only a few million are ready to fight to defend their freedom.

    • @soapbubble13
      @soapbubble13 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check this in Google :"sambir, Lviv region. beating of a man in the territorial recruitment center". They tried to force two guys to sign military

    • @peterbailey-jq7pe
      @peterbailey-jq7pe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that's why the captain has a pistol , just in case anyone doesn't want to fight

  • @joelsalvatore
    @joelsalvatore ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I did my military duty but guys really military is not for everybody. Just for training i saw people are crying, they are shaking when they are shooting. I judge them ın the beginnig but later when you know them, you are understanding they are just not fit to be a soldier.

    • @lauraalbu56
      @lauraalbu56 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But are you fit to seek scandal and beat old people, rob?

  • @tommyjoestallings855
    @tommyjoestallings855 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    If a man does not want to fight for his country, he doesn't have to

    • @VolodymyrLisivka
      @VolodymyrLisivka ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He can change his gender. It's legal.

    • @Intel-i7-9700k
      @Intel-i7-9700k ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Exactly. For my country the Netherlands, I would have fought in the past. But not in the 21st century anymore. The sense of community and positivity of the past is long gone, and the urban elites are completely disconnected from the common man.

    • @napoleonbonaparte4396
      @napoleonbonaparte4396 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VolodymyrLisivka Gender? As a matter of fact women fight in Ukraine, even ladies from foreign countries.

    • @halb-k1n
      @halb-k1n ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Then he should find another country he would be willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with other patriots to fight for. Or accept that he is not man and put on a dress and be treated accordingly in society.

    • @mariothibau1070
      @mariothibau1070 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@halb-k1na man should never be forced to fight for a country he doesn’t believe in, for falsehoods or political ideas he disagrees with.

  • @lg2058
    @lg2058 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Sounds like staying neutral would have been a far smarter thing to do than all this.

    • @babblo1389
      @babblo1389 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Indeed

    • @Island-Nation
      @Island-Nation ปีที่แล้ว +30

      ​@@priyajoseph7108They were not neutral

    • @jacqdanieles
      @jacqdanieles ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@Island-Nationevery country has the sovereign right to choose their economic & strategic alliances without having the neighbor invading them.

    • @motowntaiwan9079
      @motowntaiwan9079 ปีที่แล้ว

      USA has imposed draconian economic sanctions against Cuba for over 60 years now.@@jacqdanieles

    • @gleestruwe1818
      @gleestruwe1818 ปีที่แล้ว

      nw that neutral bit , sure make s sense 🤔

  • @alicaljungberg3742
    @alicaljungberg3742 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Better to live than die in a pointless meatgrinder. Best of luck to these boys!

    • @warbler1984
      @warbler1984 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So what's the solution they flee and all of Ukraine becomes like Bucha?

    • @alhambrabiker1476
      @alhambrabiker1476 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It depends. Better to live freely then to live as a Putin’s slave and die for Putin.

    • @paperandmedals8316
      @paperandmedals8316 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re the reason woman will never be in power.

    • @Will-ef2tw
      @Will-ef2tw ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@alhambrabiker1476 I don't think that's what's going on. If ukranie becomes a puppet state of Russia the citizens won't be slaves to Put in. Furthermore they are already NATOs puppet state so it's kind of irrelevant.

    • @Big-guy1981
      @Big-guy1981 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Especially if women are exempt for some reason.

  • @AllScarsHealTarotcardreader
    @AllScarsHealTarotcardreader ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “Let’s be fair to Ukraine “ I think we’ve been more than fair. They don’t get called terrorist for defending against occupation like any middle eastern countries. They’ve been given support whether we agreed with supporting them or not working class will be “being fair “ to them for generations to come.

  • @starlson3442
    @starlson3442 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Let me get this straight, Me (21 M) who was living life and minding my own business, now has to choose between Going to war and potentially dying or going to prison for like 17years all because 2 dudes in suits couldn’t come to an agreement ?

    • @StudSnob
      @StudSnob ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yup. And the girls hav eno such worries, they can live it up however they wish.

    • @vettemuziekjes
      @vettemuziekjes ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, ukranians voted for this. isn't demcracy great ?

    • @StudSnob
      @StudSnob ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@vettemuziekjes How about we all vote to chop off your johnson. Would that be fair and democratic?

  • @Peter-Oak
    @Peter-Oak ปีที่แล้ว +178

    'What a strange idea, to fight for people you don't personally know'- just don't say that to Americans, Europeans and others who have been funding the fight, they might find strange the idea of helping people they don't personally know. Though the woman stating that unwilling Ukrainian men are cowards for not wanting to die and must be punished or and forced to the frontlines, while at the same time she is sitting safely in Warsaw, dinning in a nice restaurant does take the cake. Quite the analysis DW.

    • @jansix4287
      @jansix4287 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      You don’t die by funding a war in another country and the money for these weapon systems has been spend decades ago. You can’t go buy an iPhone 15 and pay with a Leopard 1. The old tank can be used to destroy early cold war Russian tanks and for nothing else in the world. Furthermore supporting Ukraine defends the UN world order, reduces the risk of war coming to the West and strengthens the trust into NATO alliance. It’s a win regardless of the outcome. That’s why so many countries participate in the effort.

    • @antoniousai1989
      @antoniousai1989 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, that guy is a hypocrite. He doesn't live in a cave. There are plenty of citizens that he doesn't see and that pay taxes or work to keep on the system of infrastructure and society that allows him to live.
      No man is an island

    • @Dorr234
      @Dorr234 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      agreed - women that complain should be sent back to fight, they can fight as well, it is their land too

    • @LowenKM
      @LowenKM ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @TotenKopf11 Yep, there seems to be a whole business just on TH-cam of Ukrainian gals billed as 'academics', giving interviews and speaking as 'authorities' on the war, meanwhile nattily dressed and all dolled up as they jaunt between interviews and 'speaking engagements' in London, Paris and Rome.

    • @EdilbertFernando
      @EdilbertFernando ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of it is just NATO stock clearance, same for the Russians

  • @providence889
    @providence889 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    Everybody mocking those who doesnt wanna fight, but funny how when a war in their country starts, im sure they wont be lining up for the front lines

    • @madcapmiguel5071
      @madcapmiguel5071 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe for you european cowards but Americans have been fighting your battles for over 100 years

    • @Zzzooooppp
      @Zzzooooppp ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Oh yeah it’s definitely the anime girl profile pics that are going to fight bravely on the front line 🤣

    • @Mr.Clownensky
      @Mr.Clownensky ปีที่แล้ว

      You describe every ukrob0ts here in social media 😂, lol,

    • @tommygun5038
      @tommygun5038 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There's always going too be some that don't want to fight. It comes down to if you really believe in the cause

    • @commanderred5573
      @commanderred5573 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They'll be the first to run, these cod addicts never been in a real fight their whole lives, all they know is how to act tough online while riding the high from their cod killstreaks.

  • @ИльяДмитриев-ц4ч
    @ИльяДмитриев-ц4ч 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Lisa Yasko born in 1990 and spend most of her life in Europe. She one of Ukrainian rich politics who know nothing about Russia, who never seen USSR and don't know anything about common life in Ukraine. For her, freedom for Ukraine comes from west, she don't know any other freedom. Zero tolerance against corruption, LOL. Yes, good solutions like diplomatic work and coexisting with Russia, but people like Yasko will never accept that. Real agression against our nation, says Lisa Yasko. How about real agression against East Ukraine, Lisa never heard about that?

  • @LankeyMonkey97
    @LankeyMonkey97 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I don't think we should ever listen to people who are talking about war, whilst having lunch in a luxury restaurant in Warsaw. I would love to hear the opinion of the people on the front line. If they think that more people should come and what they think about the conscription.

    • @athenewu5612
      @athenewu5612 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      cannot agree with you more!

    • @oleg8433
      @oleg8433 ปีที่แล้ว

      People on the front line just want someone to come and fight instead of them. Of course, they will say yes. NO ONE WANTS TO FIGHT. Only politicians with maps in their offices

  • @albertmills9365
    @albertmills9365 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    There would be no war if soldiers on all sides simply refused to fight.

    • @6amprjct
      @6amprjct ปีที่แล้ว

      part of people get brainwashed and are ready to go defend those politicians they identify themselves with

    • @lynxlecher9547
      @lynxlecher9547 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wars are fought because men have an instinct to fight. They are not forced by governments. They will jump at any opportunity, some of them, at least.

    • @easyrider2940
      @easyrider2940 ปีที่แล้ว

      stop making this fu*king imaginary scenarios when everyone doing the same at the same time, it's not going to happen, this just doesn't work that way

    • @russianinvader3207
      @russianinvader3207 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then you woke up.

  • @psnaris
    @psnaris ปีที่แล้ว +45

    If the border guards caught someone, that someone better have a pile of cash on him. I am sure most of them know that since they have been living their whole lives in Ukraine and have a good idea about how things work.

    • @Eugene211
      @Eugene211 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      When you talk about corruption in that region - Ukraine, Belorussia, Bulgaria, etc. - keep in mind that it all is Russian infused corruption. No Ruzzians - no corruption. No Ruzzians - freedoms, like in my homeland Lithuania which is in the 10 top countries with highest freedoms of the press.

    • @WinterGK
      @WinterGK ปีที่แล้ว

      Ukraine is trying to break out of having high corruption. You cannot just assume that you can corrupt everyone. This isn't Russia and things are changing fast

    • @freelancheer
      @freelancheer ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@Eugene211I laugh everytime I see someone talking about how great these countries like Lithuania, Estonia are, lol. Guys, you're just regions and the best luck of you is NATO membership.

    • @vettemuziekjes
      @vettemuziekjes ปีที่แล้ว

      only the rich natsies are welcome just like before

    • @ARES-zf5fz
      @ARES-zf5fz ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Eugene211Easy to blame all your problems on an already unpopular country. Grow up. You Baltic countries are nothing but little buffer states.

  • @eastgate5386
    @eastgate5386 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    And 2 months later: Ukraine Army is chasing civilians on the streets ... Sick of your bull .... DW

    • @nandofim
      @nandofim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For more than a year, the Ukrainian Army is chasing/kidnap... civilians on the streets.

  • @jonathanarciaga3951
    @jonathanarciaga3951 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    there is no price for human life miss lisa yasko

    • @baniceeee
      @baniceeee ปีที่แล้ว +8

      She must go on the battlefield just for 1 hour. All her narrative will change

    • @jacqdanieles
      @jacqdanieles ปีที่แล้ว

      Then tell your midget in Moscow to withdraw his horde

    • @sershulginsperspective9339
      @sershulginsperspective9339 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      From a restaurant in Warsaw she sees better what Ukrainian men should do

  • @zakariyeyahye5566
    @zakariyeyahye5566 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell

    • @robek2623
      @robek2623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      George Orwell went to spain as a volunteer and fought for the spanish peoples freedom against fascism.

    • @anssiluomaranta34
      @anssiluomaranta34 ปีที่แล้ว

      Modern day russia is a good example of the orwellian dystopia.

  • @anastasiaprokhozhiy1901
    @anastasiaprokhozhiy1901 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    😢Я молюсь, чтобы прекратилась эта безумная война.

  • @shelonnikgrumantov5061
    @shelonnikgrumantov5061 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I liked the part about the Ukrainian boundary guards “probably saving lives” of those trying to illegally escape to Rumania - yeh, right, compare the risks of being killed by just a bear and - by the Russian Bear; and make your educated choice.)
    Also, a huge problem is that almost all children of Ukrainian’s mid to top officials either have left the country or serve far from the frontline (with a few trigger happy exceptions who enjoy adrenaline). What would you expect from the common people?

    • @vwilhelm5788
      @vwilhelm5788 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have friends who almost got shot trying to leave. The only thing that saved them was that they had cash to bribe the border patrol. The 14 bodies they found were not killed by some animal but by nationalistic border guards.

    • @lauraalbu56
      @lauraalbu56 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't understand how they can drown in that river!

  • @Unknownperson33857
    @Unknownperson33857 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Each individual should have the right to decide on it's fate. If one refuses to fight for it's country or the ruling party, it is his/her morally justified choice to do so. This is the core of democracy and a nation should not impose such obligations on it's people. If it does however, then it cannot truthfully call itself a democratic state.

    • @nihadnsirov2290
      @nihadnsirov2290 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      In theory, everything's in rose, mate. But the fact is that if there'd be such options to choose from, many would rather fleeing than dying. You'd not have any army to fight with. The knowledge that "it can not be done without me" makes people join in.

    • @Review-rj9lq
      @Review-rj9lq ปีที่แล้ว +8

      How about if the oppresor knocks at your doorstep?

    • @miroslavstevic2036
      @miroslavstevic2036 ปีที่แล้ว

      It doesn't work that way. The moment existential war starts, a country will typically declare martial law. Under this law there is no democracy and your usual human rights do not apply. Xelynnsky is not in the mood for elections, he wields dictatorial powers. Secret services prosecute and kill at will. If draft office calls you, you _must_ answer. Otherwise you are draft dodger and deserter. Punishment is harsh. Deserters are not even court marshaled, they are directly sent into front line trenches or simply shot.

    • @terencefranks1688
      @terencefranks1688 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zelensky's government banned opposition parties = no democracy !

    • @ws1814
      @ws1814 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No need to say her, coz women just hide when it comes to war. 😂

  • @sershulginsperspective9339
    @sershulginsperspective9339 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Make a video on how Ukrainian government banned Ukrainian students to study abroad.
    Last autumn 3000 students who were invited to primarily European universities were not allowed to go to study.
    Most of them lost their places in universities, scholarships and so on.
    And to underline "glory of ukraine" its minister of education was giving a comment that "students are a military resource".

    • @egertonmark
      @egertonmark ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Students are a military resource what are you smoking fella?

    • @vettemuziekjes
      @vettemuziekjes ปีที่แล้ว +2

      doesn't ukraine have universities then ? maybe they should have built one instead of weapons of war. But yea, free free free university, ukranians demand everything for free don't they.. Well there is a price, count all the dead and take price in that free degree.

    • @DreamyCheshire-up9rf
      @DreamyCheshire-up9rf ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@egertonmark Of course students are military resource as they could be trained as soldiers to fight the war.

    • @EdilbertFernando
      @EdilbertFernando ปีที่แล้ว

      A question you ought to ask the Minister of Education of the glorious democratic liberal utopia of Prez Z@@egertonmark

    • @samuelhara4874
      @samuelhara4874 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's exactly right! Students are military resources! You go to study as if nothing is going in Ukraine! While others dieing in their 100s every day! To save it for you? 😮? No, Ukraine must have a normal life until this war that Ukraine is so belligerently started is ending..

  • @ej3291
    @ej3291 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I don't want my son to fight/die in an unwinnable war.

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The thing is if Ukraine led a war with full power and good supply of weapons and ammo, it could win. But that's not quite happening.

    • @opoxious1592
      @opoxious1592 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So does that mean that you are prepared to die on your knees begging for mercy to the Russians?
      Because this is what you are basically saying.
      Ukraine can and WILL win if they get the proper equipment.

    • @misganatessema1060
      @misganatessema1060 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@opoxious1592 or why dont you go there and die for them instead of giving advice?

    • @victimsofelectronicharassm6568
      @victimsofelectronicharassm6568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@opoxious1592Ukraine is already at its peak. Considering all the support they been garnering so far is only temporary, Ukraine's success is basically collective effort of US+European countries. They absolutely can't win like this. It depends on whether Russia commits for longer period or not.

    • @opoxious1592
      @opoxious1592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@misganatessema1060 i have been in several millitairy operations, for the last 8 years
      So i advice you to be smart talking to somebody else.
      It's clear that you know nothing about standing your ground to protect your wife and children, family and country.

  • @evertonsilva20able
    @evertonsilva20able ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No man should be forced to fight!
    How can a woman understand anything about war and it's demands if they are the first to leave?!

  • @itisi8498
    @itisi8498 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    That’s messed up older generation stoked a conflict and they want innocent youngsters to die for their mistakes and choices they made

    • @dennis2376
      @dennis2376 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What Bull. This has nothing to do about older generation, but to do with Russia invading.

    • @incrediblestevrhymz2260
      @incrediblestevrhymz2260 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dennis2376 keep talking this nonsense.... Go to Ukraine and fight on their behalf if you belive this claptrap you are writing. As a young person myself, I will leave my country if the politicians mismanaged diplomacy to the point of causing a war, I don't care who is right or wrong.... I am not dying for Zelensky and the west to be proven right or for some ego ride....

    • @Jojosworld000
      @Jojosworld000 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@dennis2376how is that bull? This is definitely the cause and fault of the older generation

    • @dennis2376
      @dennis2376 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jojosworld000 It was caused by Putin and that is it. Not older generation.

    • @sershulginsperspective9339
      @sershulginsperspective9339 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ​​​​@@dennis2376 I am 23 y.o. Ukrainian and I must say that I didn't even exist when Ukrainian state proclaimed its independence in 1991 and I was 13 y.o. in 2014 during so called "revolution".
      I don't want to make any sacrifices for the struggle those people have started.

  • @carlnielsen3833
    @carlnielsen3833 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I don't blame them. On a net-value basis, this US proxy war is not worth dying for.

    • @Sethae
      @Sethae ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the only reason to jump ship. The west hates men and wants to have as many killed as possible. If you're fighting for yourself, your religion and your people, go for it, but do not fight for the west.

  • @marcoluna1316
    @marcoluna1316 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Ukraine had a well trained military. Unfortunately those trained men are all dead now and Ukraine is trying to build an army on the fly. you can not make an army out of people who don’t want to fight. The US learned this lesson in Iraq

    • @AndreiPopescu
      @AndreiPopescu ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Didn't it learn it in Vietnam? As far as I know there weren't any more drafts after that, not even when the attacks 9/11 took place.

    • @TheAceuu
      @TheAceuu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndreiPopescuback when Americans had patriotism they didn’t even need a draft. It’s insane how many Americans joined the military after 9/11 or tried to

    • @lightningleaf23
      @lightningleaf23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can build an army of conscripts of course some won’t want to fight but in WW2 all armies had conscripts

    • @susanabrandanmazyazh9291
      @susanabrandanmazyazh9291 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The diference is that Iraq for US sitizens its a foreigh land, they dont care about the outcome. Ukraine is a homeland for ukranians, the outcome defines the outcome for the nation.

  • @Polynesie410
    @Polynesie410 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wouldn't want to die for the goals of the Western crooks either.

    • @owenthomas5103
      @owenthomas5103 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the democraticly ecided goals of Ukraine. Nobody sain needs "the west" to tell them that being cobqured by pycopathic Putin would be a bad thing.

  • @awesomegmg956
    @awesomegmg956 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Well, personal choice. Can’t blame them

    • @yomama383
      @yomama383 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely cannot blame them and it is 100% their choice, BUT one must know that each choice has consequences. You'll most likely be in three scenarios whether you fight or flee. That is you might die, go to prison, or live.

    • @awesomegmg956
      @awesomegmg956 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@yomama383 allowing people unwilling to fight is a better decision anyway. Those unwilling to fight undermines the morale, cause more damage than they help

    • @Chisel_Chest
      @Chisel_Chest ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@awesomegmg956 Most sensible comment in the section

    • @thomaslacornette1282
      @thomaslacornette1282 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The problem is you can't choose between dead or crippled. And like the guy said in the video you have no guarantee in the end your country win. Yeah UKraine is losing and they know it really well.

    • @DSan-kl2yc
      @DSan-kl2yc ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@thomaslacornette1282 no one can objectively say Ukraine is losing. That's wishful thinking on your part

  • @michaelanonymous5608
    @michaelanonymous5608 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    It's a shame that people still are forced to fight for politics. It's not about land, it's just about who governs the region. Everybody should have the right do decide for himselves if he wants to fight, or not.

    • @susanabrandanmazyazh9291
      @susanabrandanmazyazh9291 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is not how it works, every country has the same constitution regaring country defence in the state of war. Politics its about every citizen in the country, And people fight for their families and their homes in Ukraine.

    • @rubenramirez6589
      @rubenramirez6589 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lie disguised as patriotism

    • @ZmeyYuri
      @ZmeyYuri ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@susanabrandanmazyazh9291 no they don't
      people are forced to give their lives for the butcher's villas and gains

    • @eliotness4029
      @eliotness4029 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t understand why Ukrainians living in Lviv need to defend Crimea, where they have never been and never will

    • @susanabrandanmazyazh9291
      @susanabrandanmazyazh9291 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fnpuir2439p8e I doubt very much that this statistics is correct as there are countries where corruption is the base of the system and Ukraine is not one of them, there are corrupt individuals which is very different from the corrupt system. Second Ukraine corruption issues, however the whole system is not built in corruption like Russia and Belorussia. Third the internal issues with the corruption in Ukraine does not give anybody the right to attack the country , kill civilians and try to annex all Ukrainian territory.

  • @lifeguardryantv5846
    @lifeguardryantv5846 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    They dying for US proxy this is a shame.

  • @Randomized91
    @Randomized91 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    the reason is very simple, they don't want to waste their life to unwinnable war.

    • @maxstryK3R
      @maxstryK3R ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How would you fight for a country if they are all corrupt officials. I don't see the logic.
      You serving for the rich people and dying like a numbers that no one cares or denying your existence.

    • @anthonyforrest1785
      @anthonyforrest1785 ปีที่แล้ว

      How long was the war Russia wage against Afghanistan last? Did Russia win?

    • @whatsgoingon71
      @whatsgoingon71 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@maxstryK3Ronly rich people need your protection? You must be very lonely without friends and family...

    • @evilmex1962
      @evilmex1962 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anthonyforrest1785 USA had strategy in Afghanistan. They don't have it for Ukraine

    • @supersardonic1179
      @supersardonic1179 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxstryK3R Are you alone in this world or something, a lot of those soldiers on the frontlines are fighting for their friends and family.

  • @delacroixx
    @delacroixx ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thanks for shining the light on that. People on the internet are keen on waging a war only when it's not them who should do the fighting.