I have 2 P320s and 2 P365s. Never had a problem with my 320s, ever. I have been debating whether to put a comp on my compact with my full size frame. You convinced me. I have one on my p365 EDC. Loving Everytime I shoot it. Thanks.
I own one of the original release P320-M17 never had any issues, no mysterious ghost mis-fires, no jams, nothing. Absollute pleasure to shoot, fully stock configuration.
I have the same model. Wilson combat makes a guide rod that let's you use government length recoil springs. I put a 15lb 1911 spring and mine, and shooting it became even better. I have a 18lb spring for +p loads. The p320 is definitely a phenomenal pistol.
That's because the issues with the original version were corrected at the tail end of the M17 program. No M17s or M18s ever had the issues people are stressing about. Anyone that says otherwise is lying to you. The biggest gripe about Sig is that when they identified a possible issue and made the trigger changes to the military guns, they should have immediately notified the public and recalled the old guns. The way they handled it was absolute trash, but the guns are fine now. I waited to buy one until after they fixed them because I don't buy the first version of anything, no matter what it is.
i have a p320 x-carry and love it and trust the sig fix, i later bought a p320 compact in 40 cal and love trust that as well which i trust and carry most of the time, i love how modular they are as the look of them.
I have used a P320 XCompact as my EDC for almost 5 years now and have never had an issue or seen a reason not to trust it. I also did a custom build with one of your comps on an XFull size grip so everything was flush and I never had an issue with that either. I love my Sigs as well as many other brands.
Bought a p320-m18 this past weekend, put 200 rounds through it, groupings were tight up to 15 yards and I'm very new to handguns, it's powerful and comfortable for bigger hands. Had 2 jams total with a brand new gun, went home and cleaned it. Very impressed so far.
Need to clean off all the manufacturer grease and oil. Lube it good so it functions well. Some of them are very tight and will jam. Once you work them and trust it, it will never let you down. I have 3 of them in all different configurations.
@@tyshaft2155 My carry is a M&P9 M2.0 4” compact with the Holosun 507c, but any of the offerings from the top tier manufacturers will work. Glock, HK, S&W, FN, CZ, SA, etc. Anything but Sig. Sig is junk with a proven record of failure since 2006.
I've been running my P320 RX compact in a tier 1 concealed appendix rig for the last few years. Serial number checks out as being good to go as far as the issues the early batches had. I've had no concerns carrying it. Just recently bumped it up to a x full grip frame and installed one of your compensators on it. Can't wait to take it out soon.
Go youtuber Gunghis and look up his Sig P320 video. He was at a competition and it went off in his holster, he had witnesses and he checked the tool and it passed. His P320 still went off and shot in holster. I would suggest NOT appendix carrying.
@Breath310 Even if the striker return spring was broken, that part has absolutely zero influence on making the gun fire on its own. His shirt caught on the holster as he was holstering/unholstering the gun.
@Breath310 There wasn't video of the incident, many people suspect part of his clothing dipped into the holster and activated the trigger. There is a video of a competition shooter with a Beretta 92 and this same ND happens when holstering, the clothing got caught in the holster.
@Breath310Because if you were a P320 armorer or ever had a basic understanding of the firearm's design and engineering, you would know what parts do what and what they do not cause.
I have 2 p320's and 2 p365's, never had any issues with either one. The p365 Tac Ops is my EDC. Completely comfortable with my kit. Great open minded and fair video.
I was a M&P "guy." Then fell in love with my G19. P365. Hated it. P365 X macro. Loved it. P320 spectra comp and sold my G19 and G45. LOVE the Spectre Comp.
@bpwarrior1 the original p365 was really snappy, too small, not enough rounds. The grip and angle were absolutely atrocious as was the mag extension plastic thing that moved around. The X macro was a game changer.
I’ve been a Glock fan for years then built a P320 to my liking and I’m slowly coming over to Sig, you can literally change anything you want on a 320 grips, triggers, comps, weight etc
I've built several 365 and 320. The 320 is by far my favorite. He didn't mention the TXG grip module for some reason. To me, they are awesome. They soak up a ton of energy. I'm running a comped xcarry on a TXG right now. It's a Cadillac for sure.
I have a P320 X-Five Legion. Probably one of the better shooting and more comfortable pistols that I own. It’s more of a range gun than a carry gun but I do carry it often when I’m hiking and not really worried about concealing it. Definitely not something I really gravitate towards for EDC. But it does sit on my nightstand every night and I do trust it with my life.
@@raspur Trex arms sidecar was the only one I could find that was a guaranteed fit with my light. There were some cheaper ones available if you don't have a light but I have not tried them.
Great video. Thank you for making it. The very first thing I want to bring up is, Sig has not lost a single suit. All of the so called "holster cases" have shown that something in the holster "pulled the trigger".
@@harlanhollywoodcavin1874 I saw it, but as you said he was a competition shooter. What were the modifications that he made to the gun or the holster. I once modified a G19 so much that it fired three rounds burst and you didn’t have completely disengage the trigger shoe. Also that competition shooter, to the best of my knowledge, never returned his gun to Sig for inspection and repair.
Been running 3 different p320 variants for about the last 2yrs in USPSA and training all over the east coast. I also own 3 p365 variants. 4 total Herrington comps. Actually swapped the comp out on my Spectre Comp 320 when the factory comp failed. Sig wouldn’t sell me just the comp. True precision barrel and some minor slide machining. 1911 style guide rod. Completely different pistol now
@@cheyenneobregon184 it broke out at the top at the thinnest point while cleaning it.. I believe it got over heated? It’s not the best quality aluminum. Appears to have been extruded aluminum. It captured a ton of lead which required a great deal more cleaning than my other comp’d pistols. The barrel had a lot of tool marks in the rifling which is what I believe caused the excessive leading.. Sig told me the tool marks “wouldn’t affect accuracy” and that I would have to pay them to test it… I can provide all the emails between my self and Sig regarding this along with all the images. Tossed the barrel. Milled the front of the slide, installed a true precision barrel, installed the Herrington comp. Accuracy improved drastically and no more lead build up..
@@PnP-td1mt thank you for the detailed response… I want to build one with their custom werks FCU and debated just getting a spectre comp but not surprised now.. I used to own a p365XL Macro and the slide finish wore out just holstering it which this just affirmed me to build one with this new company I found
I just purchased a full sized X with a Romeo X Pro yesterday and just found this video and your channel. First of all this video is very informative! Definitely subscribed and would like to try one of your comps out. Thanks!
I purchased a P320 comp for shooting in steel and uspsa carry optics. Because of the modular FCU I put it in a Brouwer M1811 grip module that has a 1911 grip angle. I love this firearm and am confident Sig has fully addressed any "going off" issues, if they existed in the first place.
I’ve gone through both 365 and 320 models and have finally ended up with both the axg legion models which I love, stock and already nearing 3500 rounds through both but always looking to upgrade
I’ve had my p320 X Five Legion for 3 years and I love it. I haven’t had any issues with the pistol at all and I have fired over 2000 rounds with the gun.
P320 xcarry was my 1st 9mm. Never had any discharge issues and carried it for a few years. Now I opt for the 365 and love them both. turned the old carry into the bedside HD gun with a full slide and grip mod. Both easy to shoot and control.
My wife loves her 320 compact with the Wilson Combat grip. Pairing a large frame with a compact slide for a compensator though, I gotta say that's pretty clean. I wonder if I could do something like that with the Echilon in a few years
I have a M18. Waited years for it. They are ot that ease to get here in Czech Rep. But boy it was worth it. The most reliable gun I've ever laid my hands on and it just fits my hands perfectly. We really uderstand each other. Love it. I plan to get the P226 Xfive Legion 'cause it's just plain phenomenal and maybe a P320 Spectre Comp Blackout, which is a fantastic competition-ready striker-fired gun. I just love what SIG does. Those guns are unique, well made, reliable to hell and back and a pleasure to shoot.
I love my P320’s. Ran about 5k rounds through my duty P320 and only had 2 or 3 jams. Great gun. Just got my P320 AXG Pro ported and it shoots flat af😮💨 The Echelon is another great option, probably my favorite gun at the moment.
I’ve always been a Glock guy. I picked up an M18 and it quickly became one of my favorite firearms. I now use it as my EDC. I have big hands, and the stock grip fits my big paws very well. I run it basically stock and it’s been great.
Great video. My favorite gun of all time is the p365. I’ve gone through 7 different major configurations between my two fcu’s in the last 2.5 years. I love to tinker with guns, and this platform is unbeatable. It can become a small 10+1 round sweatpants gun, or a full capacity 17 round x-macro with tlr-a. Haven’t gotten into the p320 due to the drop safe issues, however, I have been educated in the past and do honestly believe it’s fixed in the slide. Might get into the p320 platform soon…
The P320 cannot go off by itself. Love the platform and Herrington Arms… I run a Herrington Arms comped gun with a TXG grip module, Armory Craft/ Sig Armorer trigger and Armory Craft guide rod/ recoil spring kit in open division 3 gun and USPSA…
Depends on which pistol you have! Earlier ones had a design flaw; enough G’s will engage and fire the weapon. Most models out there don’t have the same internals anymore but it’s worth checking if you happen to have not checked yet!
New to shooting. Bought the 320 after firing it compared to other models. Then, I saw the videos about the issues. Time will tell, but it seems like I made a good choice.
I really like the sig 320 I have a Sig 320 Spectre comp I do have some concerns about carrying it. I had it for about 10 months and haven’t even shot it yet.
I *highly* recommend people buy the Brouwer M1811 Grip for their P320/M17/M18’s. I installed one on my contract M18 and it completely revolutionized the gun for me. HUGE difference in comfort, recoil control, my ability to get on target, etc. That and the Romeo M17 were 100% essential upgrades for it, IMO.
@@ZuZaarr Agreed, I love the 1911 style on it as well. I have one for my P365X and it also greatly improved my grip. When I was deciding between the Brouwer & Wilson, I solely chose the Brouwer for the way it looked + the really impressive data sheet and testing on their website. You really can’t go wrong with either.
The funny thing is every person I actually meet in the real world either loves the 320 or just doesn’t prefer it but have nothing against it. I’ve never met anyone that had any actual issue with a 320. I picked up a 320 for $480 at the beginning of the pandemic when everything else was skyrocketing and it surprisingly became my favorite 9mm striker gun. Tried out all the polymer grip mods except the Mirzon and finally settled on the Brouwer M1811 grip mod. Definitely need to build a 320 from the ground up using the Fdez comped slide. My 320 has been more reliable than my previous G19.4 and shoots much softer while getting back on target quicker for me. I absolutely love my 320 and I’m kind of interested in the 365 macro too. All that said, HK is still my go to defensive handguns. SIG has become my “popular gun” for parts and aftermarket support.
There are a lot things I like about the 320. I tried getting into it but many thousands of reps with with glocks has conditioned me to be used to a more aggressive grip angle. Instead of trying to train that out I decided to stick with what I am most proficient with. At the end of the day they are both polymer framed striker fired handguns with a ton of aftermarket support. When it comes to pew pews...shooters preference
I have 6 P320'S AND 2 p365's never one issue with them and I have carried a P320 as my duty gun since 2015 and have all the trust in the world for it. One of my Sigs looks just like the tan one in the video with the compensator! great gun!
P320rx C with the original Romeo1 mounted on it. I have put thousands of rounds through this gun. I have had 3 different grips on it, 2 different barrels, Comped and un-comped. Never a single issue. It has always gone bang every single time. I don't know if just happened to get lucky but no matter what I put on this gun, It always goes bang.
I have a P320, a P 250 and a P365 and never had any problems with them. i carry the P365 most of the time but will switch to the P320 sometimes just because i can carry an extra magazine that can hold more than 15 rounds
I love the P320. So many people are focused on the P365/XMacro these days, but the P320 should get even more recognition. Aside from my Walther PDP, the P320 is my favorite striker fired platform to shoot on. Super customizable (an expensive hobby though), many variants to fit any need, and it's just so fun to shoot. I started with the P320 as my first firearm and never shot a Glock previously so the higher bore axis and muzzle flip were things that forced me to really work on my grip. Once I got it down, I can shoot it super flat and relatively accurate while going fast. Trying a Glock afterwards it was easier to control the recoil on that since it's more of a push recoil impulse vs a flip with the P320, but I've gotten so used to the P320 that it isn't an issue. For around the same price you're getting a more modular pistol with better sights, better ergonomics, and a better trigger. If you want a comp on it or custom higher end parts, you can get it straight from Sig too if you're too lazy to make one yourself. There's no reason not to own a P320 and I trust it with my life/honestly think the gun going off is a user issue. The only downsides I can think of is Sig's quality control (they are amazing though and promptly fixed finishing issues I had with my first P320), higher costs for accessories/mags, and I really wished it came with a backstraps system or allow us to get the P320 with a Large grip frame straight from Sig for most P320s (a system like the ones they use for the XMacro would be perfect)
I trust my P320 with my life. It's had one in the chamber for 6-7 years, I'm from South Africa and we didn't even have the full upgrade, we got the slim trigger and some internal changes but didn't get the disconnect and the cut in the slide But ive ran with it, shook it, walked into doorframes with it😂 but it's never gone off without me pulling the trigger Cases of it going of without dropping has been negligent discharges from my personal opinion
Excellent build setups and thanks for the Shout Out! Also want to share for readers that the P320 is a phenomenal platform and every one of us who are certified Sig Sauer P320 Armorers understand the safety mechanisms make it virtually impossible to fire on its own. Every case of an unintended (holstered) discharge that we've seen so far happens when bending over, and that goes for any pistol. Watch the exact same thing happen with a Glock -- th-cam.com/video/yFM3emqjCXI/w-d-xo.html -- as these incidents have been known to happen when a bit of clothing gets pulled into the trigger guard when the pistol is re-holstered, and then tugged with movement. Every one of Sig's incidents that were brought to light had the pistol checked by Sig and found to be mechanically sound, hence a part didn't break and cause it to discharge.
I understand reholstering with clothing in the trigger guard or having clothing and then the cloth being tugged could cause a discharge. My question, is the striker pre-cocked? With Glock obviously it is not. Unless the trigger linkage moves rearward and catches the striker to pull tension it can not fire. So if the Sig is the same design it is no different. I think part of the problem is watching all of these tactical want to bees reholstering like a quick reholster saves lives. In fact that is the time a ND is most likely. Draw the gun quick but, take your time and look the gun back into the holster, especially when carrying appendix.
The issues are internet folklore blown out of proportions by keyboard warriors. I own 3 Sigs and they have been flawless for thousands of rounds. I would not hesitate to buy another. My only complaint with SIG is that their prices keep going up. Their Xten comp and Xmacro are next on my list. I have owned many other manufacturers and sold them but my Sigs stay in my collection.
@user-pp5or5og4k Yesterday I went on research quest to understand the mechanism of the Sig. In my opinion I wouldn't have one without a manual safety. The striker is 100% tensioned with a single action trigger. Now granted the trigger has some travel before it is going to drop. To be fair though the Gun was designed to have external safeties to fulfill the Military Guidelines. It basically would be about like walking around with a bolt action rifle chambered and the safety off. I am not knocking Sig and I appreciate that they seem very pro 2a. Just saying if I had one I without a safety I would by a frame with the safety on it.
@@UncleDanBand64 It is pre-cocked. You're correct, re-holstering should always be slow and deliberate while visually inspecting the insertion. That would prevent many issues.
I bought the Sig m18 320 compact as my first gun and I have to say it’s my favorite gun still after testing Glocks , walther, and canik , I’ve never had not even one issue with ammo or firing and I have over 3,000 rounds so far though it this gun is amazing and everyone that shoots it tells me that if they’re going to buy a gun it’s going to be a sig 320 , I also have the 320 AXG pro and that thing is on another level
Other than a few range rental high quality 1911 pistols, the p320C and full size are the best shooting pistols I've ever tried. For some reason, it's just stupid easy to stack rounds on the center of the target for me. I'm not saying everything else sucks, I'm saying that me and the 320 became immediate friends. EDIT: grammatical errors
I have a P320 XCompact, a P365 XL and my wife carries a P365. I absolutely love the XCompact and it's now my home weapon. I will carry it from time to time, but I now carry the 365 XL. I have never had any issues with it. They both shoot incredibly well, and they've held up very well. I put a lot of ammo through them. They are great weapons. I don't really enjoy shooting my wife's P365 as much. Just doesn't fit great in my hand and I'm not as comfortable with it. I'm thinking about buying a P320 down the road, but right now I'm sticking with the ones I have, which I love.
Had my p320 compact for 6 years or more not a single issue , today I was trying to make it go off by hitting it from every position possible while safely aiming and couldn’t not get it to fire . I’m beginning to think there’s a lot of hate coming from the competition and haters abroad . She’s been a beast
Only issues going off in a holster have all been found to be operator error and or foriegn objects in holster. For the uninitiated, Glock Leg is a thing, glocks have far more documented accounts of ND, but SIG is just taking its turn in the hot seat. This is going to happen when it is standard issue for police forces, and they have the least trained people carrying a weapon day in and day out. With thousands of rounds down range from both my glocks and SIG P320 and no issues. Ohhhh and guys, if you're rockin a P320 check out the Brouwer Solutions M1811 (or 1823 I think is the metal frame) they make the grip and mag well just awesome and the alignment is sick.
Of course the glock has more nds. Look at how much longer glock has been around and how many more glocks they are in use. Especially considering they were one of the first popular pistols without a frame mounted safety. Think the lack of trigger safety most likely leads to more 320 nds caused by operator and the gun.
@@s.vernon5118 SIG still has a long way to go to catch up to Glock in that arena. Given more people buy Glock, because it's what everyone knows of, there are far more ND/ADs than any other striker fired pistols. Also, fun fact, likely due to same thing, Glocks are the most returned/traded firearms purchased. I owned a G19&G17, largely because I only knew of Glock outside of Barretta and a 1911, I always hated the grip angle. This said, they make a great weapon, but in today's world, there are so many other choices and better out of the box. Personally I've gone to SIG and Canik, primarily SIG due to all of the awesome upgrades available. I run the snot out of my P320 and do not feel it is any less safe than the Glocks or Canik, or SAR or M&P I have.
Running all OEM components on mine; doubt that would make any difference to be honest. Legion FCU, AXG legion slide with the built-in comp, Sig 3.9" barrel + captured recoil spring, Romeo 1 Pro optic, TXG carry frame, Springer Precision mag well, gas pedal takedown lever, factory magazines. Shoots like a dream. Heavy and very accurate.
My first pistol was a P320 Xcompact. I even started upgrading it to the point that, eventually, the upgrades could be removed and combined to make a totally new P320, lol. I enjoyed the platform but the P365 was just a better conceal carry and with the same modularity. Sold my original 320 and most of the gucci one. Only have its grip module and core module hanging around.
I am absolutely comfortable with my P320s. Never had a malfunction and I don't know anyone who's ever had the supposed self-firing issue we heard so much about a few years back. To the extent that I have to question whether that even happened.
The funny thing about the self discharging P320 stories is beyond the stories that happened 2-3 years ago you have not heard anything more about them no resolution one way or the other. IIRC sig updated the sear and either lightened the physical trigger or changed the trigger springs due to the mass of the stock trigger and inertia when it is dropped possibly contributing to discharges. Supposedly the drop had to happen at a very specific angle for the old P320 to discharge
I have 4 variants of the P320. I mainly shoot my XCarry. I don’t carry it because of stories on the internet about them discharging in a holster. I conceal carry a G19/17 only because I do shoot Glocks better. However I love the grip angle on Sigs. Great video, man.
I carry a p320 and am satisfied with now I'm looking into customizing ND I am glad this fell into my algorithm, I was looking for an aluminum frame. Thanks man. You got sub and like 👍🏻
I have a 320 X VTAC. AWESOME sights. But it just feels funky in recoil. Just like the HK USP. It is soft, but just throws you off. So I am getting a Strike Ind. SMC Bravo. Or one of your comps.
@herringtonarms I'm so glad we saw this before we purchased this for my wife. Please tell me the configuration I'd need to get her the 320 Compact without needing to have this on the 320 full frame, as she doesn't want the weapon longer than it would with the 4.3" Threaded barrel? Anxiously awaiting your response. Thank you
it went off in the cops holster because it wasnt seated correctly in the holster and i think a lot of people blame it and say it goes off by itself to avoid saying they had a ND
I have the full size version. Pretty bare bones. Just a rail on the frame and 3-dot sights. No optics cut or glowing sights but it's perfectly fine for my needs. I've recently become aware that I'm what's called "gun Amish" as all my handguns still only have iron sights. Someday I'll get one with an optics cut but for now, a new firearm just isn't in the budget.
It took me awhile to get into a p320 at all because of the negativity ive heard about it online and not just about the discharges but about how bad the bore axis is and all that. But after i loved my p365 and building different ones i wanted to try a 320 and man did i enjoy it. It shot way better then i was expecting because of all the people crying about how high the bore axis is
HELL NOO! I'm sorry bud but I didn't watch any video, i saw it live. I never even knew about the discharges until I went home and checked if there were similar situations and there is A LOT! I went to Sunnyvale Rod and Gun Club to shoot on 5/7/24. Everyone in CA freaks out when we get a new gun on roster and people were swiping this up like it was a staccato 50% off deal and I was thinking of scooping one up myself cause the price wasn't bad for a optics ready gun, we have a select few in CA. So the guy on my immediate right had this gun fresh out and his first time shooting it, I was watching him set it down when the range master called cease fire and it went off when he put it on the table, thank god he was aiming it down range. I seen this gun the next day on calguns for PPT in my area, wouldn't be surprised if it was him trying to get rid of it, at the same time that pisses me off if it was him, irresponsible and messed up to put someone else's life in for a measly $700 he should've just returned it to sig for another model or a refund. I saw another video of a CA TH-camr p320 going off in his holster and making a hole through his shorts.
Sig P320 is like a pet snake, one day after handling it for years it will bite you but in the case of the Sig you wont be walking away after the strike 🐍
Really want to get back into p320's. But not having a mechanical lock on their Sears spooks me and only having it supported spring tension spooks me. Wish they would incorporate an existing fix
The modularity aspect of the weapon is cool, but ultimately not as big of a deal as people make it out to be. The Walther PDP is TECHNICALLY almost as modular (minus the fire control system) , but most third party manufacturers are afraid to jump in on it. For some reason. It is also just a much better gun.
Bought this pistol a couple of months ago in 45 compact model. First I love the way it feels and shoots but I have an issue that in all the videos out there no one talks about and that is the new number sight system they went to on this pistol. It is total garbage. I took it to the range and it kept shooting 4 inches low so before someone says that I don't know how to shoot. I spent 28 years in the military and now retired and was a part time police officer for 2 years so I have been trained by some of the most professional experts in proper shooting forms and techniques. With that being said I contacted Sig and on a phone call with their optics expert I was informed that they set their pistol sights up to shoot at 25 yards. So basically I was told if your looking for a pistol for self defense or close distance shooting then their line of pistols is not what I need.......For real. Their sights are set up for competition shooters that shoot at a distance of 25 yards so I had 2 options I could send the pistol back to Sig and have them do an accuracy test on it. ( Which they would shoot the pistol at 25 yards) or I can purchase different sights and have them put on the pistol to fit what my needs are. I choose to replace their garbage sites with ones that are adjustable and now I shoot center mass groups from 5 feet out to 10 yards. ( I won't even get into the legal self defense issues on why so close all I will say you shoot someone that is a threat that doesn't have a firearm over 10 yards and you better be ready to spend a lot of time in a jail cell. It is all about the threat distance and your distance of escape from that threat.) But that is another topic of discussion. But I told the clown on the phone it was the first Sig I ever bought and will be the last one.
Here’s something to fix the discharging in the holster - don’t have one in the chamber. Before people get on to me y’all need to realize that even in the military when you walk around with a weapon you don’t walk around with it charged until you’re actually in a situation where you need to use the weapon. Nobody is going to pull up to you in Walmart and you be in a situation where you have nanoseconds to react like it’s some TH-cam short. There’s no reason that when you’re carrying you’re walking around with one in the chamber. It takes a split second to charge the weapon. You’re not dueling you’re going to be aware of a potential before it even becomes an active threat. Even cops aren’t allowed to walk around with one in the chamber for reasons like this.
All I own is Glocks at the moment but I'm considering a p320 in the future and or a 226, If not a Sig might go with a CZ p10c and or maybe a Canik, Not gonna lie though the p320 Angle is extremely comfortable.
I have no issues with my 320. I enjoy the versatility of the 320 Platform. Do the research. Ppl who have fired my 320 are amazed at its simplicity and low recoil!
The modularity of guns like the P320 is amazing, it really is “lego for grown ups”. Unfortunately this can’t be a reality in other countries: even in the few that allow their citizens to own guns, most gun parts are controlled itens. You can’t just buy frames and barrels over the internet and have them shipped to your home (there’s a reason why European guns have the serial number in multiple components). Not long ago, even magazines and red dots/scopes needed purchase licenses in my home country.
The modularity of the P320 is without question, but the problem is the trigger will never be quite as good as the typical 2011s such as the Staccato. Please keep in mind I own P320s, so this isn't me hating on them. I just wish their triggers are better.
The gun going off in holster with the police officer shows the officer grabbing his gun right as it goes off. He shot it himself. You can see it on body cam of the other officer. Of course he's going to say it went off on its own. Most incompetent people deny their incompetence.
I buy them because I like them and they’re easy to swap out components and make different variations, I get the controversies but I have purchased 6 firearms that are from SIG and I have only had one issue that wasn’t too big of a deal so it’s a non issue for me
I am 100 percent convinced the p320 has had manufacturing defects that made them go off unintentionally. That being said I own a M18X with the romeo M17 and the gun is hard to beat with its 21 round capacity, good trigger, and red dot (with some issues of its own and ill see how long it ends up lasting).
Some dudes buy the 320 and carry it “appendix” because they want a free Sx change. Just Joking…..it won’t be free. And you will get a new nickname, like “Mr Half-Cocked” or “Sir Squats-Alot”! 🤣
I’ve had mine for a few years, love it. Purchased the updated model that came “fixed” from the factory.
Nothing has been fixed. SIG just lost the $2.3 Million Safety Lawsuit. Every one needs a Safety.
@@elzippo488 SIG Sauer has refitted the P320 to make it drop-safe and offers a voluntary upgrade program for early P320s.
@@trooper1972 ok yeah, that’s why they’re still going off untouched in their holsters lol! No thanks.
Yeah sure. It's called operator error! Gun just don't go off dunce. @@elzippo488
@@elzippo488the m18 has ambidextrous safeties. What are you talkin about? Go watch Garand Thumb stress test it. This hasn’t been a problem in 7 years.
I have 2 P320s and 2 P365s. Never had a problem with my 320s, ever. I have been debating whether to put a comp on my compact with my full size frame. You convinced me. I have one on my p365 EDC. Loving Everytime I shoot it. Thanks.
I own one of the original release P320-M17 never had any issues, no mysterious ghost mis-fires, no jams, nothing. Absollute pleasure to shoot, fully stock configuration.
I have the same model. Wilson combat makes a guide rod that let's you use government length recoil springs. I put a 15lb 1911 spring and mine, and shooting it became even better. I have a 18lb spring for +p loads. The p320 is definitely a phenomenal pistol.
That's because the issues with the original version were corrected at the tail end of the M17 program. No M17s or M18s ever had the issues people are stressing about. Anyone that says otherwise is lying to you.
The biggest gripe about Sig is that when they identified a possible issue and made the trigger changes to the military guns, they should have immediately notified the public and recalled the old guns. The way they handled it was absolute trash, but the guns are fine now. I waited to buy one until after they fixed them because I don't buy the first version of anything, no matter what it is.
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i have a p320 x-carry and love it and trust the sig fix, i later bought a p320 compact in 40 cal and love trust that as well which i trust and carry most of the time, i love how modular they are as the look of them.
I have used a P320 XCompact as my EDC for almost 5 years now and have never had an issue or seen a reason not to trust it. I also did a custom build with one of your comps on an XFull size grip so everything was flush and I never had an issue with that either. I love my Sigs as well as many other brands.
The TXG grip modules are amazing! It’s heavy like metal frame P320s but with the added benefit of being polymer which also absorbs felt recoil.
Bought a p320-m18 this past weekend, put 200 rounds through it, groupings were tight up to 15 yards and I'm very new to handguns, it's powerful and comfortable for bigger hands. Had 2 jams total with a brand new gun, went home and cleaned it. Very impressed so far.
Normal at the break in process, same gun,same happened to me in the first 200,
Need to clean off all the manufacturer grease and oil. Lube it good so it functions well. Some of them are very tight and will jam. Once you work them and trust it, it will never let you down. I have 3 of them in all different configurations.
Take it back and get a good gun. Lots to choose from.
@@tyshaft2155 My carry is a M&P9 M2.0 4” compact with the Holosun 507c, but any of the offerings from the top tier manufacturers will work. Glock, HK, S&W, FN, CZ, SA, etc. Anything but Sig. Sig is junk with a proven record of failure since 2006.
@@tyshaft2155 th-cam.com/video/mtzPvJiuCL8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UMFRUSnv_J2yADZN
I've been running my P320 RX compact in a tier 1 concealed appendix rig for the last few years. Serial number checks out as being good to go as far as the issues the early batches had. I've had no concerns carrying it. Just recently bumped it up to a x full grip frame and installed one of your compensators on it. Can't wait to take it out soon.
Go youtuber Gunghis and look up his Sig P320 video. He was at a competition and it went off in his holster, he had witnesses and he checked the tool and it passed. His P320 still went off and shot in holster. I would suggest NOT appendix carrying.
@@garhentthat video is suspect. It happened in 2019 and he jumped on the band wagon to get clicks.
@Breath310 Even if the striker return spring was broken, that part has absolutely zero influence on making the gun fire on its own. His shirt caught on the holster as he was holstering/unholstering the gun.
@Breath310 There wasn't video of the incident, many people suspect part of his clothing dipped into the holster and activated the trigger. There is a video of a competition shooter with a Beretta 92 and this same ND happens when holstering, the clothing got caught in the holster.
@Breath310Because if you were a P320 armorer or ever had a basic understanding of the firearm's design and engineering, you would know what parts do what and what they do not cause.
Just Got my P320 AXG legion and My p226 Legion SAO. Super super happy!!!
I have 2 p320's and 2 p365's, never had any issues with either one. The p365 Tac Ops is my EDC. Completely comfortable with my kit. Great open minded and fair
video.
I was a M&P "guy." Then fell in love with my G19. P365. Hated it. P365 X macro. Loved it. P320 spectra comp and sold my G19 and G45. LOVE the Spectre Comp.
Why are you hated your P365?
@bpwarrior1 the original p365 was really snappy, too small, not enough rounds. The grip and angle were absolutely atrocious as was the mag extension plastic thing that moved around. The X macro was a game changer.
I’ve been a Glock fan for years then built a P320 to my liking and I’m slowly coming over to Sig, you can literally change anything you want on a 320 grips, triggers, comps, weight etc
Same thing can be done on a Smith&Wesson M&P 2.0
@@lionedheartmuch harder to go from a full size grip to a compact grip with a M&P , I can switch frames on a 320 in about 40 seconds
@@WarHammer0595 True unless you get the Compact one.
U can change everything on a Glock too😂
@@CheatActivated yeah I know I have always been a Glock fan!!??!!!
I've built several 365 and 320. The 320 is by far my favorite. He didn't mention the TXG grip module for some reason. To me, they are awesome. They soak up a ton of energy. I'm running a comped xcarry on a TXG right now. It's a Cadillac for sure.
I have a P320 X-Five Legion. Probably one of the better shooting and more comfortable pistols that I own. It’s more of a range gun than a carry gun but I do carry it often when I’m hiking and not really worried about concealing it. Definitely not something I really gravitate towards for EDC. But it does sit on my nightstand every night and I do trust it with my life.
Same here, I don't edc with it but it is a great range gun and night stand gun
What holster did you buy for this pistol and the light , I am buying this pistol soon ?
@@raspur Trex arms sidecar was the only one I could find that was a guaranteed fit with my light. There were some cheaper ones available if you don't have a light but I have not tried them.
Great video. Thank you for making it. The very first thing I want to bring up is, Sig has not lost a single suit.
All of the so called "holster cases" have shown that something in the holster "pulled the trigger".
There is one it was a competition shooter he holstered fully and went 2 steps then bang.
@@harlanhollywoodcavin1874 I saw it, but as you said he was a competition shooter. What were the modifications that he made to the gun or the holster. I once modified a G19 so much that it fired three rounds burst and you didn’t have completely disengage the trigger shoe. Also that competition shooter, to the best of my knowledge, never returned his gun to Sig for inspection and repair.
Research shows you are absolutely correct
Uh oh they lost a suit
@@RatInCage-E102 They couldn't replicate one discharge. The jury ruled against Sig for not having a safety on some pistols.
Been running 3 different p320 variants for about the last 2yrs in USPSA and training all over the east coast.
I also own 3 p365 variants.
4 total Herrington comps.
Actually swapped the comp out on my Spectre Comp 320 when the factory comp failed. Sig wouldn’t sell me just the comp. True precision barrel and some minor slide machining. 1911 style guide rod.
Completely different pistol now
How did that comp fail?!
@@cheyenneobregon184 it broke out at the top at the thinnest point while cleaning it..
I believe it got over heated?
It’s not the best quality aluminum. Appears to have been extruded aluminum.
It captured a ton of lead which required a great deal more cleaning than my other comp’d pistols.
The barrel had a lot of tool marks in the rifling which is what I believe caused the excessive leading..
Sig told me the tool marks “wouldn’t affect accuracy” and that I would have to pay them to test it…
I can provide all the emails between my self and Sig regarding this along with all the images.
Tossed the barrel. Milled the front of the slide, installed a true precision barrel, installed the Herrington comp.
Accuracy improved drastically and no more lead build up..
@@PnP-td1mt thank you for the detailed response… I want to build one with their custom werks FCU and debated just getting a spectre comp but not surprised now.. I used to own a p365XL Macro and the slide finish wore out just holstering it which this just affirmed me to build one with this new company I found
I just purchased a full sized X with a Romeo X Pro yesterday and just found this video and your channel. First of all this video is very informative! Definitely subscribed and would like to try one of your comps out. Thanks!
I never worried about my P320 when I carried it. Then I got the Walther PDP-F and that became my my EDC.
I purchased a P320 comp for shooting in steel and uspsa carry optics. Because of the modular FCU I put it in a Brouwer M1811 grip module that has a 1911 grip angle. I love this firearm and am confident Sig has fully addressed any "going off" issues, if they existed in the first place.
I’ve gone through both 365 and 320 models and have finally ended up with both the axg legion models which I love, stock and already nearing 3500 rounds through both but always looking to upgrade
I’ve had my p320 X Five Legion for 3 years and I love it. I haven’t had any issues with the pistol at all and I have fired over 2000 rounds with the gun.
P320 xcarry was my 1st 9mm. Never had any discharge issues and carried it for a few years. Now I opt for the 365 and love them both. turned the old carry into the bedside HD gun with a full slide and grip mod. Both easy to shoot and control.
My wife loves her 320 compact with the Wilson Combat grip.
Pairing a large frame with a compact slide for a compensator though, I gotta say that's pretty clean. I wonder if I could do something like that with the Echilon in a few years
I have a M18. Waited years for it. They are ot that ease to get here in Czech Rep. But boy it was worth it. The most reliable gun I've ever laid my hands on and it just fits my hands perfectly. We really uderstand each other. Love it.
I plan to get the P226 Xfive Legion 'cause it's just plain phenomenal and maybe a P320 Spectre Comp Blackout, which is a fantastic competition-ready striker-fired gun. I just love what SIG does. Those guns are unique, well made, reliable to hell and back and a pleasure to shoot.
How are you not enjoying the CZ instead? I think those guns are way better :)
Zero malfunctions 5k plus rounds P320 X Full 4.7 put a Wilson Combat grip module with a TLR-7 love this thing
I love my P320’s. Ran about 5k rounds through my duty P320 and only had 2 or 3 jams. Great gun. Just got my P320 AXG Pro ported and it shoots flat af😮💨 The Echelon is another great option, probably my favorite gun at the moment.
I’ve always been a Glock guy. I picked up an M18 and it quickly became one of my favorite firearms. I now use it as my EDC. I have big hands, and the stock grip fits my big paws very well. I run it basically stock and it’s been great.
My p320 stock grip seems a little big so I swapped for the wilson combat grip.
Yes! Have the x-compact and the compact with a 357 sig xchange kit and several grip modules
Great video. My favorite gun of all time is the p365. I’ve gone through 7 different major configurations between my two fcu’s in the last 2.5 years. I love to tinker with guns, and this platform is unbeatable. It can become a small 10+1 round sweatpants gun, or a full capacity 17 round x-macro with tlr-a. Haven’t gotten into the p320 due to the drop safe issues, however, I have been educated in the past and do honestly believe it’s fixed in the slide. Might get into the p320 platform soon…
The P320 cannot go off by itself. Love the platform and Herrington Arms… I run a Herrington Arms comped gun with a TXG grip module, Armory Craft/ Sig Armorer trigger and Armory Craft guide rod/ recoil spring kit in open division 3 gun and USPSA…
Appreciate you!
Depends on which pistol you have! Earlier ones had a design flaw; enough G’s will engage and fire the weapon. Most models out there don’t have the same internals anymore but it’s worth checking if you happen to have not checked yet!
P320 are great guns. I own a P320 Compact with a HC320XL and Brouwer Grip module.
I effing love the Brouwer grip
New to shooting. Bought the 320 after firing it compared to other models. Then, I saw the videos about the issues. Time will tell, but it seems like I made a good choice.
I really like the sig 320 I have a Sig 320 Spectre comp I do have some concerns about carrying it. I had it for about 10 months and haven’t even shot it yet.
I *highly* recommend people buy the Brouwer M1811 Grip for their P320/M17/M18’s. I installed one on my contract M18 and it completely revolutionized the gun for me. HUGE difference in comfort, recoil control, my ability to get on target, etc. That and the Romeo M17 were 100% essential upgrades for it, IMO.
Gotta say the Wilson Combat grip is pretty nice feeling.
@@ZuZaarr Agreed, I love the 1911 style on it as well. I have one for my P365X and it also greatly improved my grip. When I was deciding between the Brouwer & Wilson, I solely chose the Brouwer for the way it looked + the really impressive data sheet and testing on their website. You really can’t go wrong with either.
@@rpnvg fair enough, wife and I also like the WC grips due to the weights we can add to it
@@ZuZaarr Oh dang, I forgot about that! I remember debating on getting a weight kit for my P365X’s WC grip. Does it make a big difference?
@@rpnvg no clue, wife's gonna buy one next week, will report then
The funny thing is every person I actually meet in the real world either loves the 320 or just doesn’t prefer it but have nothing against it. I’ve never met anyone that had any actual issue with a 320. I picked up a 320 for $480 at the beginning of the pandemic when everything else was skyrocketing and it surprisingly became my favorite 9mm striker gun. Tried out all the polymer grip mods except the Mirzon and finally settled on the Brouwer M1811 grip mod. Definitely need to build a 320 from the ground up using the Fdez comped slide. My 320 has been more reliable than my previous G19.4 and shoots much softer while getting back on target quicker for me. I absolutely love my 320 and I’m kind of interested in the 365 macro too. All that said, HK is still my go to defensive handguns. SIG has become my “popular gun” for parts and aftermarket support.
really it was going off and shooting the owner.... so yeah tons of people have had many issues and they got sued because of it...
There are a lot things I like about the 320. I tried getting into it but many thousands of reps with with glocks has conditioned me to be used to a more aggressive grip angle. Instead of trying to train that out I decided to stick with what I am most proficient with. At the end of the day they are both polymer framed striker fired handguns with a ton of aftermarket support. When it comes to pew pews...shooters preference
I bet someone out there is making a frame for the 320 that will give you the angle you prefer
I have 6 P320'S AND 2 p365's never one issue with them and I have carried a P320 as my duty gun since 2015 and have all the trust in the world for it. One of my Sigs looks just like the tan one in the video with the compensator! great gun!
P320rx C with the original Romeo1 mounted on it. I have put thousands of rounds through this gun. I have had 3 different grips on it, 2 different barrels, Comped and un-comped. Never a single issue. It has always gone bang every single time. I don't know if just happened to get lucky but no matter what I put on this gun, It always goes bang.
I still plan on buying one. I still carry my xmacro comp with no issues.
I have a P320, a P 250 and a P365 and never had any problems with them. i carry the P365 most of the time but will switch to the P320 sometimes just because i can carry an extra magazine that can hold more than 15 rounds
I love the P320. So many people are focused on the P365/XMacro these days, but the P320 should get even more recognition. Aside from my Walther PDP, the P320 is my favorite striker fired platform to shoot on. Super customizable (an expensive hobby though), many variants to fit any need, and it's just so fun to shoot. I started with the P320 as my first firearm and never shot a Glock previously so the higher bore axis and muzzle flip were things that forced me to really work on my grip. Once I got it down, I can shoot it super flat and relatively accurate while going fast. Trying a Glock afterwards it was easier to control the recoil on that since it's more of a push recoil impulse vs a flip with the P320, but I've gotten so used to the P320 that it isn't an issue. For around the same price you're getting a more modular pistol with better sights, better ergonomics, and a better trigger. If you want a comp on it or custom higher end parts, you can get it straight from Sig too if you're too lazy to make one yourself. There's no reason not to own a P320 and I trust it with my life/honestly think the gun going off is a user issue.
The only downsides I can think of is Sig's quality control (they are amazing though and promptly fixed finishing issues I had with my first P320), higher costs for accessories/mags, and I really wished it came with a backstraps system or allow us to get the P320 with a Large grip frame straight from Sig for most P320s (a system like the ones they use for the XMacro would be perfect)
I trust my P320 with my life. It's had one in the chamber for 6-7 years, I'm from South Africa and we didn't even have the full upgrade, we got the slim trigger and some internal changes but didn't get the disconnect and the cut in the slide
But ive ran with it, shook it, walked into doorframes with it😂 but it's never gone off without me pulling the trigger
Cases of it going of without dropping has been negligent discharges from my personal opinion
Excellent build setups and thanks for the Shout Out! Also want to share for readers that the P320 is a phenomenal platform and every one of us who are certified Sig Sauer P320 Armorers understand the safety mechanisms make it virtually impossible to fire on its own. Every case of an unintended (holstered) discharge that we've seen so far happens when bending over, and that goes for any pistol. Watch the exact same thing happen with a Glock -- th-cam.com/video/yFM3emqjCXI/w-d-xo.html -- as these incidents have been known to happen when a bit of clothing gets pulled into the trigger guard when the pistol is re-holstered, and then tugged with movement. Every one of Sig's incidents that were brought to light had the pistol checked by Sig and found to be mechanically sound, hence a part didn't break and cause it to discharge.
I understand reholstering with clothing in the trigger guard or having clothing and then the cloth being tugged could cause a discharge. My question, is the striker pre-cocked? With Glock obviously it is not. Unless the trigger linkage moves rearward and catches the striker to pull tension it can not fire. So if the Sig is the same design it is no different. I think part of the problem is watching all of these tactical want to bees reholstering like a quick reholster saves lives. In fact that is the time a ND is most likely. Draw the gun quick but, take your time and look the gun back into the holster, especially when carrying appendix.
The issues are internet folklore blown out of proportions by keyboard warriors. I own 3 Sigs and they have been flawless for thousands of rounds. I would not hesitate to buy another. My only complaint with SIG is that their prices keep going up. Their Xten comp and Xmacro are next on my list. I have owned many other manufacturers and sold them but my Sigs stay in my collection.
@user-pp5or5og4k Yesterday I went on research quest to understand the mechanism of the Sig. In my opinion I wouldn't have one without a manual safety. The striker is 100% tensioned with a single action trigger. Now granted the trigger has some travel before it is going to drop. To be fair though the Gun was designed to have external safeties to fulfill the Military Guidelines. It basically would be about like walking around with a bolt action rifle chambered and the safety off. I am not knocking Sig and I appreciate that they seem very pro 2a. Just saying if I had one I without a safety I would by a frame with the safety on it.
@@UncleDanBand64 It is pre-cocked. You're correct, re-holstering should always be slow and deliberate while visually inspecting the insertion. That would prevent many issues.
@aligntactical Yes sir. I cringe every time I see one reholstering appendix without looking. That is definitely a bad area for a ND ouch.
I bought the Sig m18 320 compact as my first gun and I have to say it’s my favorite gun still after testing Glocks , walther, and canik , I’ve never had not even one issue with ammo or firing and I have over 3,000 rounds so far though it this gun is amazing and everyone that shoots it tells me that if they’re going to buy a gun it’s going to be a sig 320 , I also have the 320 AXG pro and that thing is on another level
Other than a few range rental high quality 1911 pistols, the p320C and full size are the best shooting pistols I've ever tried. For some reason, it's just stupid easy to stack rounds on the center of the target for me. I'm not saying everything else sucks, I'm saying that me and the 320 became immediate friends.
EDIT: grammatical errors
I run my P320 X Carry with a Romeo 1 optic and I freakin love it. It's my EDC.
Nice
I have a P320 XCompact, a P365 XL and my wife carries a P365. I absolutely love the XCompact and it's now my home weapon. I will carry it from time to time, but I now carry the 365 XL. I have never had any issues with it. They both shoot incredibly well, and they've held up very well. I put a lot of ammo through them. They are great weapons. I don't really enjoy shooting my wife's P365 as much. Just doesn't fit great in my hand and I'm not as comfortable with it. I'm thinking about buying a P320 down the road, but right now I'm sticking with the ones I have, which I love.
I have the M17, wonderful pistol, thousands of rounds through it, it shoots awesome every time.
Had my p320 compact for 6 years or more not a single issue , today I was trying to make it go off by hitting it from every position possible while safely aiming and couldn’t not get it to fire . I’m beginning to think there’s a lot of hate coming from the competition and haters abroad . She’s been a beast
Only issues going off in a holster have all been found to be operator error and or foriegn objects in holster. For the uninitiated, Glock Leg is a thing, glocks have far more documented accounts of ND, but SIG is just taking its turn in the hot seat.
This is going to happen when it is standard issue for police forces, and they have the least trained people carrying a weapon day in and day out.
With thousands of rounds down range from both my glocks and SIG P320 and no issues.
Ohhhh and guys, if you're rockin a P320 check out the Brouwer Solutions M1811 (or 1823 I think is the metal frame) they make the grip and mag well just awesome and the alignment is sick.
Of course the glock has more nds. Look at how much longer glock has been around and how many more glocks they are in use. Especially considering they were one of the first popular pistols without a frame mounted safety. Think the lack of trigger safety most likely leads to more 320 nds caused by operator and the gun.
@@s.vernon5118 SIG still has a long way to go to catch up to Glock in that arena. Given more people buy Glock, because it's what everyone knows of, there are far more ND/ADs than any other striker fired pistols. Also, fun fact, likely due to same thing, Glocks are the most returned/traded firearms purchased. I owned a G19&G17, largely because I only knew of Glock outside of Barretta and a 1911, I always hated the grip angle. This said, they make a great weapon, but in today's world, there are so many other choices and better out of the box.
Personally I've gone to SIG and Canik, primarily SIG due to all of the awesome upgrades available.
I run the snot out of my P320 and do not feel it is any less safe than the Glocks or Canik, or SAR or M&P I have.
Running all OEM components on mine; doubt that would make any difference to be honest. Legion FCU, AXG legion slide with the built-in comp, Sig 3.9" barrel + captured recoil spring, Romeo 1 Pro optic, TXG carry frame, Springer Precision mag well, gas pedal takedown lever, factory magazines. Shoots like a dream. Heavy and very accurate.
I've put around 600 rounds so far through the m18 indoor range outdoor, rain etc. No issues so far. Just clean it and good to go.
I am ok with it. I have a few and have never had any issues with any of them.
Me neither
My first pistol was a P320 Xcompact. I even started upgrading it to the point that, eventually, the upgrades could be removed and combined to make a totally new P320, lol. I enjoyed the platform but the P365 was just a better conceal carry and with the same modularity. Sold my original 320 and most of the gucci one. Only have its grip module and core module hanging around.
I am absolutely comfortable with my P320s. Never had a malfunction and I don't know anyone who's ever had the supposed self-firing issue we heard so much about a few years back. To the extent that I have to question whether that even happened.
I love my P320 and Beretta APX, I think, has a removable chassis, but like you said, I haven't seen or heard any aftermarket or support for it.
the Kyle Lamb XVtac version is my EDC. have never had a moment of doubt while carrying or at the range.
The P320 is the new Glock..... People either love or hate it.... Growing aftermarket.... Good reliability
Quickly becoming my favorite channel. Just diggin these vids.
We really appreciate that!
The funny thing about the self discharging P320 stories is beyond the stories that happened 2-3 years ago you have not heard anything more about them no resolution one way or the other. IIRC sig updated the sear and either lightened the physical trigger or changed the trigger springs due to the mass of the stock trigger and inertia when it is dropped possibly contributing to discharges. Supposedly the drop had to happen at a very specific angle for the old P320 to discharge
I’ve carried my P320 Spectre xcompact for years with no issues
I have 4 variants of the P320. I mainly shoot my XCarry. I don’t carry it because of stories on the internet about them discharging in a holster. I conceal carry a G19/17 only because I do shoot Glocks better. However I love the grip angle on Sigs. Great video, man.
I carry a p320 and am satisfied with now I'm looking into customizing ND I am glad this fell into my algorithm, I was looking for an aluminum frame. Thanks man. You got sub and like 👍🏻
I have a 320 X VTAC. AWESOME sights. But it just feels funky in recoil. Just like the HK USP. It is soft, but just throws you off. So I am getting a Strike Ind. SMC Bravo. Or one of your comps.
The compensation makes the gun an “open” gun in USPSA and IDPA.
IDPA does allow ports in carry
@herringtonarms I'm so glad we saw this before we purchased this for my wife. Please tell me the configuration I'd need to get her the 320 Compact without needing to have this on the 320 full frame, as she doesn't want the weapon longer than it would with the 4.3" Threaded barrel?
Anxiously awaiting your response. Thank you
it went off in the cops holster because it wasnt seated correctly in the holster and i think a lot of people blame it and say it goes off by itself to avoid saying they had a ND
I have the full size version. Pretty bare bones. Just a rail on the frame and 3-dot sights. No optics cut or glowing sights but it's perfectly fine for my needs. I've recently become aware that I'm what's called "gun Amish" as all my handguns still only have iron sights. Someday I'll get one with an optics cut but for now, a new firearm just isn't in the budget.
It took me awhile to get into a p320 at all because of the negativity ive heard about it online and not just about the discharges but about how bad the bore axis is and all that. But after i loved my p365 and building different ones i wanted to try a 320 and man did i enjoy it. It shot way better then i was expecting because of all the people crying about how high the bore axis is
Love my AXG Scorpion 🦂. One of my favorite pistols
You’re spot on with that. Just own up and state to the world what the issue was. Obviously you discovered it since there was a fix
had an x-carry. really liked it. would have kept it if it was available with a manual safety.
HELL NOO! I'm sorry bud but I didn't watch any video, i saw it live. I never even knew about the discharges until I went home and checked if there were similar situations and there is A LOT! I went to Sunnyvale Rod and Gun Club to shoot on 5/7/24. Everyone in CA freaks out when we get a new gun on roster and people were swiping this up like it was a staccato 50% off deal and I was thinking of scooping one up myself cause the price wasn't bad for a optics ready gun, we have a select few in CA. So the guy on my immediate right had this gun fresh out and his first time shooting it, I was watching him set it down when the range master called cease fire and it went off when he put it on the table, thank god he was aiming it down range. I seen this gun the next day on calguns for PPT in my area, wouldn't be surprised if it was him trying to get rid of it, at the same time that pisses me off if it was him, irresponsible and messed up to put someone else's life in for a measly $700 he should've just returned it to sig for another model or a refund. I saw another video of a CA TH-camr p320 going off in his holster and making a hole through his shorts.
Sig P320 is like a pet snake, one day after handling it for years it will bite you but in the case of the Sig you wont be walking away after the strike 🐍
I carry a sig p230 for work. It’s a nice weapon. I’ve never had an issue with it.
Really want to get back into p320's. But not having a mechanical lock on their Sears spooks me and only having it supported spring tension spooks me. Wish they would incorporate an existing fix
Fun, adaptable...and expensive!🥴 I just started down that rabbit hole with a compact grip frame for my P320/M18.
Absolutely loved my 320 X Compact. But I just couldn’t get comfortable carrying it. I figured why risk it. So I carry my M&P’s instead.
I own a custom P320 and have never had any issues at all, and even owning a p365 spectre comp I still prefer my custom P320.
The modularity aspect of the weapon is cool, but ultimately not as big of a deal as people make it out to be. The Walther PDP is TECHNICALLY almost as modular (minus the fire control system) , but most third party manufacturers are afraid to jump in on it. For some reason. It is also just a much better gun.
love my m17, that’s why I bought it, I chose the m17 over any other p320 model cuz I don’t trust any gun without any kind of safety
Just waiting for the echelon to get the same aftermarket love
Bought this pistol a couple of months ago in 45 compact model. First I love the way it feels and shoots but I have an issue that in all the videos out there no one talks about and that is the new number sight system they went to on this pistol. It is total garbage. I took it to the range and it kept shooting 4 inches low so before someone says that I don't know how to shoot. I spent 28 years in the military and now retired and was a part time police officer for 2 years so I have been trained by some of the most professional experts in proper shooting forms and techniques. With that being said I contacted Sig and on a phone call with their optics expert I was informed that they set their pistol sights up to shoot at 25 yards. So basically I was told if your looking for a pistol for self defense or close distance shooting then their line of pistols is not what I need.......For real. Their sights are set up for competition shooters that shoot at a distance of 25 yards so I had 2 options I could send the pistol back to Sig and have them do an accuracy test on it. ( Which they would shoot the pistol at 25 yards) or I can purchase different sights and have them put on the pistol to fit what my needs are. I choose to replace their garbage sites with ones that are adjustable and now I shoot center mass groups from 5 feet out to 10 yards. ( I won't even get into the legal self defense issues on why so close all I will say you shoot someone that is a threat that doesn't have a firearm over 10 yards and you better be ready to spend a lot of time in a jail cell. It is all about the threat distance and your distance of escape from that threat.) But that is another topic of discussion. But I told the clown on the phone it was the first Sig I ever bought and will be the last one.
I love both of my 320s. Sig has fixed the drop issue but I guess some people need some kind of safety in the trigger.
Because nothing is more exhilarating in life than knowing it could end at any given second.
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Here’s something to fix the discharging in the holster - don’t have one in the chamber. Before people get on to me y’all need to realize that even in the military when you walk around with a weapon you don’t walk around with it charged until you’re actually in a situation where you need to use the weapon. Nobody is going to pull up to you in Walmart and you be in a situation where you have nanoseconds to react like it’s some TH-cam short. There’s no reason that when you’re carrying you’re walking around with one in the chamber. It takes a split second to charge the weapon. You’re not dueling you’re going to be aware of a potential before it even becomes an active threat. Even cops aren’t allowed to walk around with one in the chamber for reasons like this.
All I own is Glocks at the moment but I'm considering a p320 in the future and or a 226, If not a Sig might go with a CZ p10c and or maybe a Canik, Not gonna lie though the p320 Angle is extremely comfortable.
My modle was the upgraded version there is a extra notch in seer that stops it from discharging with tighter springs
I have no issues with my 320. I enjoy the versatility of the 320
Platform. Do the research. Ppl who have fired my 320 are amazed at its simplicity and low recoil!
P320 axg legion is a beast of a gun
I’ve a p320 sub-compact
The modularity of guns like the P320 is amazing, it really is “lego for grown ups”.
Unfortunately this can’t be a reality in other countries: even in the few that allow their citizens to own guns, most gun parts are controlled itens.
You can’t just buy frames and barrels over the internet and have them shipped to your home (there’s a reason why European guns have the serial number in multiple components).
Not long ago, even magazines and red dots/scopes needed purchase licenses in my home country.
Can you Recommend any good lights to attach to my P320-XFull
The modularity of the P320 is without question, but the problem is the trigger will never be quite as good as the typical 2011s such as the Staccato. Please keep in mind I own P320s, so this isn't me hating on them. I just wish their triggers are better.
If you have to decide whether you can trust a gun or not... you shouldn't buy it and they shouldn't make it. 😂 They should have done a whole re brand.
The gun going off in holster with the police officer shows the officer grabbing his gun right as it goes off. He shot it himself. You can see it on body cam of the other officer. Of course he's going to say it went off on its own. Most incompetent people deny their incompetence.
The 320 is Sigs half assed attempt at a striker gun by jamming striker parts into the failed 250 platform.
Drrrrrr
Glock literally had the same issues most of you are just too young to remember plus the internet didn’t exist at the time.
I always thought Sigs quality control was junk and after the whole P320 debacle I can never confidently buy their products
Well they do make a lot more guns than Glock.
I’ve never had a problem 🤷♂️
I buy them because I like them and they’re easy to swap out components and make different variations, I get the controversies but I have purchased 6 firearms that are from SIG and I have only had one issue that wasn’t too big of a deal so it’s a non issue for me
Ive had mine for 5 years, carry every day with one in the chamber with 7k+- rounds never had an issue
I am 100 percent convinced the p320 has had manufacturing defects that made them go off unintentionally. That being said I own a M18X with the romeo M17 and the gun is hard to beat with its 21 round capacity, good trigger, and red dot (with some issues of its own and ill see how long it ends up lasting).
Some dudes buy the 320 and carry it “appendix” because they want a free Sx change. Just Joking…..it won’t be free. And you will get a new nickname, like “Mr Half-Cocked” or “Sir Squats-Alot”! 🤣