Pope Francis Goes Off On Capitalism
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- "Pope Francis has attacked unfettered capitalism as "a new tyranny", urging global leaders to fight poverty and growing inequality in the first major work he has authored alone as pontiff. The 84-page document, known as an apostolic exhortation, amounted to an official platform for his papacy, building on views he has aired in sermons and remarks since he became the first non-European pontiff in 1,300 years in March. In it, Francis went further than previous comments criticising the global economic system, attacking the "idolatry of money" and beseeching politicians to guarantee all citizens "dignified work, education and healthcare". He also called on rich people to share their wealth...".* Ben Mankiewicz (What The Flick?! and TYT Sports) breaks it down on The Young Turks.
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Actually, he has always lived frugally. He walked or rode a bike as a Bishop, and did not employ maids or servants. HE cooked for himself. He chose not to live in the Pope's Palace, but instead lives in the most modest of the Vatican's properties that he was allowed to. HE rejects as much ostentation as he can. Do your homework. He is a figurehead, not personally responsible for pedophile priests. HE is the MOST visible Catholic on the planet, and also THE most PROGRESSIVE Pope in recent centuries. I am not Catholic, I'm not even Christian. But I like this man, I like what he stands for and how he is flipping the Catholic Church on its head in so many ways. THe mere fact that he DARES to speak out on stuff like this is admirable.
While being the Archbishop He used to take the bus to work every day in Buenos Aires until he was elected Pope and even cooked his own meals, remember he is a Jesuit, they are very different kind of priest.
mandy cummins - the pope is Antichrist.
As an atheist....i like this guy ^.^
As an atheist...seconded :D
As an agnostic I concur, It seems that Catholics are starting to act like there actually Christians (according to what Jesus said they should act). I am really impressed with this Pope; before this guy I could have given two shits about what the fucking pope said. Yet it seems this is a stand up gent and with a flock of millions he can be an actual voice and power of change. For example look at what he said about atheists (basically its not his place to judge, that's gods). Bravo to this pope.
***** All about you?
That is his objective. To lure atheists and then turn back on them.
As an atheist, I applaud the pope on this and hope that his church will accept cooperation from non-believers like myself on behalf of helping the poor and suffering.
I agree and as a Catholic born it makes it a much easier pill to swallow. Of course, this won't stick when he dies. You might get a very bigoted and hateful Pope.
Wastingsometimehere
We just had one of those in Pope Palpatine/Nazi Pope. I'm glad this Pope was elected, because they were so tainted from Benedict's rule that this was the only way they were going to restore their reputation.
Jesus said heal the sick, feed the poor, share, rich people are unlikely to go to heaven, and pray in private. Jesus was the biggest socialist the Tea Party would despise.
so true and he was a jew to boot lol. Hypocrisy is something new and foreign to the Teabaggers
I'm an Atheist but God bless this man.
So do you believe in God now?...
LehranLight Impossible.
Finally a pope that follows christian morals...
***** is he protecting pedophiles? I'm pretty sure that is something that happened before he got there. let's give him time to see if he speaks out on that issue too.
***** Capitalism isn't evil, just conservative brain dead fucks who use it to be greedy bastards and con the masses of asses known as GOP
bigraviolees That pretty much sums it up lol
***** Speaking is all the Pope can do he has no power over the economy or peoples ideology all he can do is speak out and give to charity.
RedroomStudios you should really shut up, but that’s not gonna happen anytime soon
God Bless the Pope. Amen. There is a leader leading the people. Even TYT is enthusiastic.
I'm glad someone else feels like tyt is doing the right thing. I've like Pope Francis since I heard about him calling people. Someone actually following the good parts of the Bible.
I never thought I would never, ever type these words. But I kind of like the pope.
Screws with your brain doesn't it
Amen, brother!
It's really strange
Yeah but lets see Catholics put his words into action... that's the proof of the pudding.
I am a very hardened septic but for the fist time in my lifetime I think the pope might, just might be a decent human being who cares for more than covering up the raping of children. But I could be wrong only time will tell.
I am an atheist, and I think this pope is awesome.
This Pope seems like a good guy (especially compared to that last ghoul), but let's not forget how wealthy the Catholic Church is. They own their own little country with a gold throne and many hundreds of millions of dollars in assets. It's a bit ironic to hear the figurehead of that institution talking about the imbalance between the rich and the poor.
I think he's trying to cut down on that. He discarded the red shoes and the gold throne already.
I give Francis a lot of credit when it comes to having o deal with the pageantry of his own religion. I know he would still be taking public transit instead of the popemobile if it wouldn't be so dangerous for him.
Jigabeavis OOoooh a change of fucking wardrobe!
He also suspended the 'bishop of bling' remember. Everything looks like it's getting tuned down
please shut up
I'm not Catholic, but I knew when they chose a Jesuit pope that he was going to be something else. Then he chose the name Francis, which is quite telling. He hasn't disappointed. This is about the most liberal pope that could have possibly gotten the job, and I think the world is a better place for him being in it.
After Francis of Asisse? I'm not religious so this is a historical guess :P
***** Actually, it should be ROMAM DEELENDA EST.
Also, you're an idiot.
England became great only when we had an empire. When the romans left our island was little more than a saxon colony or petty uncivilised kingdom.
Preach on, Pope Francis. This man gives me hope for the future.
Victoria Hewlett I love the Pope and I'm not even religious LOL!
dnate697 I know! Exactly.
Victoria Hewlett
:)
Awesome! Thanks for sharing this.
Victoria Hewlett Please leave the Church or else you will be condemned to hell.
Remeber when I used to joke that the conservatives down in Jesusland where more right wing then the Pope? I can't make that joke anymore.
Seriously though, this guy is actually acting like a Pope is supposed to!
Going amongst the masses, personally caring for the sick and weak... he's even doing random 'pope calls' where he calls up Catholics for a tete et tete. His Holiness tore the 'Bishop of Bling' up and put down the 'Cardinal Rulers' who treat the Vatican as a personal bank account... As a youth he followed the teachings of the Christian liberation theorists in south America and it shows.
Henk van der Laak Because that's solely his decision to make? Also, I'm pretty sure assets of the the country you live in were stolen from previous owners. Why not show by example and find yourself an undocumented island to live off of?
Henk van der Laak Oh I agree with you. The Pope is just one man, a good man, but a figurehead more then anything. He's showing ledaership as Christians are supposed to act by his words and personal acts of faith, but he's only the Pope- he can't take on the Catholic Church!
@@guy9052 -pope is Antichrist
"I know the Pope doesn't give a crap what I think about him but, God bless the Pope."
The most dangerous person for the modern Christian conservative is not an atheist, but is in fact a person that actually takes the teachings of their Jesus, who they claim to revere, seriously.
Pope Francis is the best example of religion done right that we've seen in a LONG time.
Because he loves Jesus
mike twomey No. Because he knows how to use the internet.
I totally agree. Hating gay people because it tells you in the bible that its wrong is like hating shellfish eaters. One, the bible tells you not to hate people, even sinners. Two, it's like, one line. Jesus talked about way more important stuff, but greedy republicans that pretend to be Cristian ignore so many of the important things in ordeder to line their pockets they have to chose mundane details to focus on so that people believe their charade.
Clare Hansell Christians are called by God to hate the sin not the sinner. Being gay is a sin against God just like hating someone is a sin. God calls all gays to repenting of their sins not embrace it. Yes God loves them and all of us the same, however God is a God of Justice as well. just like Sodom and Gomorra God judged it because there was no repentance. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever. This is a serious offense to him just like hating you brother. Lets not dumb it down, but show Gods love by telling truth so that gay souls will be saved from hell.
I wish Ben was the official TYT news reporter. He's so much more intelligent and passionate than Cenk.
Nobody is more passionate then Cenk
Watch the infamous USA TODAY clip, and tell me Cenk isn't passionate.
Cenk is obviously a good guy, I do place more value on this guys opinion because he has an air of being a very normal and intelligent person
I agree with you on the intelligence bit yeah. But no competition with Cenk on passion. Plus he's way more funny.
I'd like to see more Ben but Cenk has the personality to really carry the network.
Silly Pope, someone needs to tell him that I hate poor people...
I think it is pretty obvious that I was a white man and would want all the decedents of Ham to be punished.
This Pope sounds like he could be a truly great man
The only greatest man ever to live was Jesus- the pope is a regular sinner like the rest of us-he cant save us or offer us salvation. Look to God not the pope...
+CandaceWhite agree
+CandaceWhite one day I want pope francis say he's a sinner and he actually gives up career.
+Maluhia808 he knows he's a sinner. He goes to confession to confess HIS SINS. He never claimed to be perfect and he doesn't have to give up his career to prove that he's not
CandaceWhite
it gets worst and worst
This Pope gets it. I'm not even Catholic but this guy is amazing. I love to see someone in a powerful position speak out on important issues. The who gay marriage dispute is really just something to keep the public busy arguing amongst themselves instead of paying attention to the real issues. The rich live off of the blood of the poor. This has been the way of the world since the beginning of time. We are slaves to the white collar. We work our fingers to the bone, miss the milestones of our children, worry ourselves into an earlier grave and they don't even want us to have affordable healthcare. The right forces us to accept laws written to enforced their religious beliefs. They are not showing God's love in their actions. Instead of leading people to God by example by showing God's love and patience they attempt to terrify people into belief. Alas this is the way of man.
YOU ARE TOTALY WRONG, POVERTY IS NOT CAUSED BY THE RICH
IT IS NOT CAUSED AT ALL. IT IS THE DEFAULT POSITION
ITS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO NOTHING, WE ARE ALL BORN POOR AND NAKED AND HELPLESS,
IT IS WEATH THAT HAS TO BE CAUSED,
IF YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEN YOU DONT KNOW THE FRIST THING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT LIFE, YOUR STILL AS HELPLESS AS A BABY AND ITS NO WONDER YOU WANT TO GET A HOLD OF OTHER PEOPLES MONEY
*Wow*. I could live in a world where everyone was religious if they were as sympathetic and understanding of the exploitation emergent in cutthroat capitalism as Pope Francis.
As an anti-theist _a la_ Hitchens, I have to say that this pope is surprising me as well. I would rather see the Catholic church dismantled, as well as other religious organizations, but if he's fighting the good fight and concentrating on important humanist issues, then I have much, much, less of a problem with him.
For those who are commenting that he should be doing something about these things: I think that he actually is. I've actually read the paper released a few days ago (and yes, it is very long), and he calls for massive changes in the church, including changes on issues which were previously dogmatic and never thought to be changed. He has called a special council for discussion and reform, and I believe he actually means it. Of course, we'll have to see what he does in the future, but we all know that changes in the church take epochs in general. As it is, he's as much of a revolutionary as we'll ever see in the church today and I believe he truly means what he says. Even though he could technically rule by fiat and change everything overnight, he knows full well that it wouldn't simply be accepted and would form another rift. If he's going to change the church, a rift isn't going to change anything but harden the stance of those dissenters and will accomplish nothing.
No, I think he's doing something wise: he's trying to change the conversation and forcing people to discuss the issues which are important, and trying to get them to see the humanist side which he apparently truly believes in. And if he's able to get a consensus, then change will follow.
So I'm in the wait and see mode. I do, however, have high hopes for this pope. He may not live long enough to see all the changes which he wishes to enact, but he appears to be setting the tone, pace, and discussion for years to come. Perhaps that is his ultimate goal: to change the entire tone for the long run so that the next pope will have no choice but to go along with it, and future popes thereafter.
By the way, for those who point out that the vatican has been accused several times of money laundering and close ties with the mafia, this new pope has already angered many in the vatican by lashing out against this and saying that there will be no more of that. So much so that a few articles have been written about how the mafia has found itself in a very bad spot all of a sudden with what lies ahead in their financial stakes within the vatican. He appears to be ready to take that corruption on as well and, some think, could be risking his life in doing so. It's not a completely idle threat, so I believe that he is truly genuine in his humanist activism.
We'll see what he brings in the future. But I don't recall reading about such an active pope since the middle ages, nor do I recall reading about such a pope who has made such provocatively humanist statements in the entire history of the church.
Thank you for articulating my own thopughts on this subject so well. I agree with you wholeheartedly (I too am an atheist, though rpobably not as anti theist as you are)
same here, upvote went with a thousand kisses
Well, thank you both very much. :)
As an Atheist, I love this Pope.
As an Atheist, I love this Vatican PR Department
This Pope is Atheist! :))
a2thek47 Thats the best kind of pope!
But on look at all reactions from the atheist peoples.... First Pope loved by atheist? ....hmm this is New and Weird!
McDucky I'm an atheist too, I used to not give a shit about the pope, but you have to admit that this is a huge improvement from the recent vatican stance on the relations of economics and religious dogma.
this guy inspires me constantly. this picture of him kissing, embracing and blessing a severely facially disfigured man makes me cry every time i see it
shut up and let people love each other.
Religionskill Give it a break already will you?
Sarah Katie
HAHAHAHA
I adore this Pope. He takes the kind and compassionate teachings of the Bible seriously and only wants love and the betterment of everyone's lives. Closer to Jesus than the petty, wrathful old testament God.
Doesn't want glitz and glamor, doesn't tell gay people they're abominations, and now this. If I believed in supernatural things, I'd want to be a Catholic under this Pope.
Sometimes I forget TH-cam is full of crazy...
ThatSpazChick you are all crazy.
***** In time the people will learn, have some hope
Im an Agnostic but I must say based on the EVIDENCE THUS FAR I respect this Pope. The Church needed this Pope like yesterday.
Pope Francis be kickin ass, gotta love Pope Francis.
It is easier for a camel to go through an eye of a needle then for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
***** Don't aim your comment to me, I didn't say it. Read the teachings of Jesus Christ about what he had to say about wealth, materialistic things, and the poor. Doesn't sound like the Republican party to me. Keep in mind, they're the one's always talking about the love of God and country.
***** Typical Republican response. I see you don't know what Jesus Christ taught about wealth, materialistic things and the poor.
Matthew 6:19-21
New International Version (NIV)
Treasures in Heaven
19 “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
This is only one of many things Christ taught about treasures (wealth).
Maybe you're using the Republican version of the Bible.
My brother became a millionaire. I had seen for myself how money changed him. I haven't seen him for years now. We were closer when he was just a regular working Joe. You're way off base when it comes to knowing what a true Democrat is.
***** "No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money." (NLT, Luke 16:13)
Do not wear yourself out to get rich; have the wisdom to show restraint. Cast but a glance at riches, and they are gone, for they will surely sprout wings and fly off to the sky like an eagle. (NIV, Proverbs 23:4-5)
What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? (NIV, Matthew 16:26)
Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. (TNIV, 1 Timothy 6:9-11, emphasis added)
"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. (NIV, Matthew 6:19-21)
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God... For the same reason you also pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, busy with this very thing. Pay to all what is due them - taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due. (NRSV, Romans 13:1, 6-7)
I hate to say it, but he keeps talking like this and he's going to get assassinated
He's making too much sense for the extremists or the corporates to allow him to live.
An assassinated pope would set the world on fire.
The Mafia apparently already wants him dead.
Or he might get "replaced" by a cybernetic clone
Avakadoman1995 Yeah... the christians have proven throughout history that they are blood thirsty psychopaths so you are probably correct there
Dear Pope,
you'll have credibility after you've sold your palaces of gold and given the money to the poor.
Thank you for your time.
I don't think he actually owns st peter's basilica. He seems like he is trying to remind people of what should really be at the heart of all religions, kindness, fairness and a sense of connection with the society you live in. Maybe stop pissing on the bonfire to show off how nihilistic you are.
Day 1 he got rid of the giant thrown and all the other gold furniture that Pope Benedict carried around with him. He doesn't have complete control over the vatican.
I don't think the pope legally owns the Vatican, just like Obama couldn't sell the White House.
Stop being so unappreciative of what he actually has done. This Pope is a huge step up from all the others.
banditontherun1024 Fact check your post buddy. He is Pope Francis.
And he didn't get rid of the throne on day one, that was fictional propaganda you were reading. He hasn't sold off the throne, which you imply, it's still in the Vatican and has been used during several meetings with Cardinals and high Church officials.
He has made more moves towards humility and reasonable expenditures than any pontiff in recent memory. But you shouldn't exaggerate those gestures. Focus on the facts, like the apartments he is living in, which are not a simple hotel room. They are much more modest than JPII's chambers, let alone Papa Benni's.
This is the first real action, not spin or grandstanding, that we have really seen from Pope Francis. It may be a good sign. Or the princes of the Church may rein him in, they way they did when he said atheist could go to Heaven or homosexuals weren't evil. We will have to see how much influence this Roman Bishop is willing to exert and how much he wants to exert.
If he moves much farther to the left (and make no fucking mistake, he is still extremely right wing) he will need to trade his eurotrash classic in for the old bulletproof popemobile. The Far Right won't stand for this kind of talk.
That reading actually brought tears to my eyes. This new pope is really attempting to embody the teachings of Jesus.
As an atheist, God bless Pope Francis...
You know, assuming this pope doesn't get assassinated for his stance on issues like income disparity, he might actually accomplish something incredible.
I am not a religious person, but it feels good to hear a moral leader pointing out some of these inequalities that plague the planet.
For decades, now, religion and market-worshipping have gone hand in hand. A few criticisms of capitalism from a few specific religious leaders won't make that go away.
It's a start. Let's see what happens.
Anti incumbent
The Banks and Wall Street ripped off grandma and grandpa and stole their American Dreams,
Again, community reinvestment act, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
will the pope also call on states to start taxing the church to help pay for these services
chirp....chirp....chirp....
***** The Vatican has the largest, if not one of, reserves of gold on the entire planet, if he is talking about redistribution of wealth, he really should start with the reserves he "inherited".
***** don't forget the churches real estate holdings and they don't pay property tax either
***** he speaks about equality. Lets see this man put his money where his mouth is and allow women to become ordained. Wanna bet that happens the same time the church starts paying taxes.
Monetary egalitarianism is not equality, and its the furthest thing from actual egalitarianism, and its pathetic that all he alludes to is redistribution (theft).
I am an atheist for sure. But hell, I love this pope.
I'm an atheist, but damn, this pope is a boss
Holy shit this may be the smartest pope in popeville history.
He's got the mind of a president. Shit, he's finally gained my full support.
That quote he said just knocked me away.
*****
I know, shareings BAD right?
How did this guy even get into power..that's what i want to know
no not at all, im just amazed that hes in power
what i dont get is if the majority of right wingers are strong catholic/christians then how is it they are so against one of the highest powers in religion that they fall under!?
i love this pope! im not a religious person but im not athiest. I like the fact he can say he doesnt agree with something but that he has no right to say what people can and can not do. I love the fact that he understands that god is creator and loves everyone! that does not exclude the LGBT community! he loves everyone!!! I swear god has blessed our world with a pope who isnt screwed in ridiculous belief and ideology!
Because they aren't strong catholic/christians in the first place... they are just self serving, egocentric, tight arse bastards!!
HitmanHey Exactly.. They just use their religion as a guise to hide who they really are. Always taking the religious moral high-ground to counter accusations of infidelity. "I would never do that.. I'm a good Christian. Just look at the pictures of my family and I at church, and see I'm tithing too!"
point taken. its interesting how people claim they are something that their not.
The bible talks of this frequently! I just read about this today!! :D false prophets/teachers/preachers are mentioned throughout the entire new testament and we are told to discern who is correct and who isn't. "But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction and many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed" 2 Peter Chapter 2 Verses 1 & 2 :) I am for the most part liberal. So when i hear these conservatives using god for their own personal gain I wonder what is really going on and how they will be judged. God Bless the Pope for taking on these people :D
I think it's great that if nothing else the pope is calling for POSITIVE change in the world
I have a master's degree and have been homeless for 17 months. Finally we have a person in power saying these things.
Leaders need to hear this. The people know and live in it. Time for change.
im happy ben did this one cos if it was cenk, he still find away to piss all over it.
I really hope Pope Francis can reform the Church. As an Atheist, I would love nothing more than to be able to find a religion worth respecting. He would a true hero If he can get Christians to actually follow the teachings of Christ.
I don't believe in god. But I think the world needs more leaders like Pope Francis.
I love this pope.. even though I do not participate in his religion, I truly love this guy
Great commentary Ben Mankiewicz. You did an awesome job!!! I'm not Catholic, but I am very excited and impressed with what Pope Francis has been saying. You did a superb job outlining exactly how incredible these statements really are. He's going to be a big target for criticism and possibly worse, but I respect him so much for using his position to address these critical issues. Thanks for doing such thoughtful coverage. TYT rocks!
The problem isn't economic inequality-- it never has been. It's economic opportunity.
We should be less focused on simply giving low-income people money and more focused on providing them the opportunity to make money. Make college free; no one who works hard should ever be burdened by tens of thousands of dollars of student debt.
the problem right now is certainly economic inequality. Over the past 4 or 5 decades executive pay has increased by 300% while average income has actually decreased when you account for inflation. Fixing economic inequality has nothing to do with welfare or giving people money. It has to do with paying people a fair living wage for their labor.
Inequality most certainly is a problem in today's world. Inequality is okay when the basis of that inequality is a difference between people's talents and willingness to work. Nobody is suggesting that a neurosurgeon should make the same as a convenience store clerk, but in today's world, great inequality is being driven by the exploitation and predation of the powerless by the powerful. That kind of inequality absolutely is a problem.
RedroomStudios "the problem right now is certainly economic inequality. Over the past 4 or 5 decades executive pay has increased by 300% while average income has actually decreased when you account for inflation."
That's not actually an argument that supports your claim though. unless said increase also could amount to a tangible pay increase for workers when divided over billions of workers, it actually is completely irrelevant. There are also many good reasons to pay executives well, such as preventing corruption and otherwise aligning the interests of executives with those of the owners. It's entirely possible that you'd lose money overall by paying executives less due to the executives selling out to your competition(Which might even be foreign and the whole thing could lead to, not increased wages, but unemployment).
Overall, this actually is a fairly complex system and you are looking at a single variable. Beyond that, it's easy to agree with your concluding remark. Fair wages has a lot to do with "living wage". No job should ever be done unless people are willing to pay a living wage for it. Beyond that, wages should probably be tied to meeting economic goals for the company as well as figuring out ways to improve operation. One should probably focus more on that than how much the executive director makes, because his salary is dictated by the fact that it's him alone who will give the ok to purchase raw materials worth $5 billion and his salary simply has to be large compared to the expected payoff for any one such transaction to avoid corruption. This simply has nothing to do with fairness.
Nevermind
I can't help but wonder if this is just the Catholic marketing machine getting smarter, but if it's not, I don't rate his chances of surviving unassassinated for too long.
Let's collectively end poverty on the planet. What is needed is both a will and a way. The will is up to each person, but the way - a new way is easy.
Set up CBA's, community bank accounts. A government, or any group of investors, or any interested individual can set it up. They put money into a community bank account, and the interest goes to the community. The capital is never spent. Plus the banks that have the CBA, have money to loan to the community.
I think the right wing is finding itself on a lonely island in this world and they better do something about it if they want to live.
Just your comment alone shows where you stand.
I just think that certain people are jumping on the anti-capitalist bandwagon now, which is easy to do when the economy's not too good- celebrities, religious leaders- but who paid any attention to all the little socialist and anarchist newspapers who were saying this stuff 10-15 years ago, and predicting what would happen all through the boom years?
I don't really care if someone comes late to a cause, if the cause is a good one. So what people are jumping on the anti-capitalist bandwagon, it's a bandwagon that could use a huge number of extra people on it.
Sense008 The trouble is that the opinions of such people change like the weather. They'll be socialists today and fascists tomorrow, because it is all the go.
The socialists weren't the only ones that predicted it, every school of economic thought knew this was going to happen.
Be it the Neo- Keynesians, Neo- classicals or the Austrians.
As much as I disagree with Catholicism and religion as a whole, I've got to stick up for Pope Frank here. He's been saying things like this for years but, it's only picked up by the mainstream now that he is Pope.
this guy is turning into a rockstar
The greed of the super rich has brought us all down.
The pope is a Liberal AND a Socialist!
I applaud the man!
as an atheist
this pope is the worst thing to ever happen to atheism :P
this pope is amazing, and he's taking away a lot of my disagreements/ammunition against christianity.
I'm all about helping the poor and getting rid of crony capitalism, but I don't think we should get rid of capitalism altogether, I think it needs reform.
I don't think Pope Francis really gives a damn about politics or economics for their own sake. His main preoccupation is human beings, human dignity, given only fully when God is put first in our society THROUGH politics and economics.
I say this to prevent labeling the pope as a right-left-up-down whatever winger...
He is none of that, he is for Christ and Christ alone.
you are shoveling such a pile of transparent shit
how can he be for human dignity when he advocates controlling the markets?
which is nothing more than humans exercising thier dignity.
if he is for chirst, how come he didnt mention any of christs teaching?
marx, mousolinni, yes christ no
any one who tries to "prevent lableing" is tring to prevent thinking
guess what?
you failed.
heres a lable for you: MORON
your assuming ill die soon, i most certainly will die, but when is for god to decide, and apperently he wants be here to keep an eye on you, which i will,so
you need to either smarten up or pray way harder for my death
***** 1, im not a republican
2,im not a conservative
3, i'll decide if i'll call myself a chistian or a catholic.and i am both
4. i have never advocated that church and state should be one.infact i hold the oppisite view very stongly,it is the pope who feels he should inject himself into state funtions,in fact openly advocating statism ( whie negeleting his actual job,authentic SPIRITUAL leadership)
5.i'm quite aware its not the fifties, in the fifties i was an refugee from a fascist country,living in a tenament
now, i spilt my time living in my homes in the 3 countires of which i am a citizen living in freedom, alot of people died in WW2 (as a partisen in facist italy I had to kill a bunch of them MYSELF) it wasn't my idea, i was forced by people, like you, who didn't like my ideas and wished me dead. they failed, i didn't.
now, if you wish to shut me the fuck up,,please,go ahead and try, but id think it over because i've played this game before and judging from your comment, you are incapable of surviving on your own and know it,
otherwise why would you want to control other people so badly?
rockhard thhat, was AWESOME, YOU ARE A BADASS
GOD BLESS YOU
rockhard
But, John Paul II and Benedict both advocated Capitalism as a response to Communism. Francis is just harkening back to that and saying that, "hey, unfettered capitalism is no good; it runs off of vicious greed, and it incentivizes violence and oppression." He's only doing as much as any other Pope has done in the past. And further more; religion is hardly a powerfully moving thing if it DOESN'T affect your politics and economics, right? I mean, the reason many Catholics try so hard against abortion is because we BELIEVE it to be wrong. If we didn't believe it to be wrong, we wouldn't ACT against it. Thus, religion affects political practice. In the same vain, the Pope is saying that a capitalism that feeds itself by harming human dignity is morally corrupt, and ought not be practiced. When Vulture Capitalists can literally extort and hold hostage the entire nation of Argentina, we can be well assured that this form of unfettered Capitalism has gone too far, and become a beast straight out of revelation. It seems to me, that the Pope is just doing what Popes do: pointing out grievances and atrocities against humanity and human dignity wherever it exists; in other words, "Poping"
Pope Francis is the first religious leader that I truly feel may walk in God's Light. He may be the change and salvation of the corrupt and self serving Church's of the world. The Church's of hate, bigotry, and profiteering. God bless and keep you Pope Francis. Your message of love, Hope and ability to see the worth in all may just get me back to church.
I am an athiest but i can say that pope francis is awesome
I'm not a Catholic, but I love this Pope.
This pope is so awesome. And not ONLY when you compare him to the last horrible one. But if you do that, he looks even more awesome.
Dear Sir,
you comment is perfect. The day they choose this man to be pope I said to someone also watching the first images of pope Francis: I have the feeling that the cardinals made a big mistake. This man is going to do what Jesus said.!
I had given up on the catholic church, but papa Francesco is the greatest joy I had in religion for years. Let's all come together, believers, agnostics and atheists. Who cares what you believe but lets all make this world a better place for everyone.
As an Atheist even I would have to agree with the pope on this one. Bless his little popey heart
What is this? A powerful Christian standing up for the poor? But . . but that's so . . *Christlike!*
Can you imagine how much good could be done if the Catholic Church actually fought for the little guy? *For ONCE*, we would have someone on our side against our Capitalist Overseers.
I'm an Atheist, but Pope Francis just won himself a fan.
My theory is, in his youth Pope Francis became an atheist, but decided to become Pope to change to church for better and go around trolling Catholic authorities.
SaunaFinland Lol, welll the man certainly has his head on straight. Unlike the last two Popes, who had their's firmly up their asses
This Pope is a breath of living air for the Catholics , if he'd been around years ago I might have been a cathol.
My gawd, a Pope that I may actually be able to respect. Every opinion I have heard expressed from him so far has been human and humane. Forget that the cardinals tried to reel in his comments about atheists not being condemned to hell, even the Pope can't single-handedly change the church, but he is definitely steering it in a new direction. And one in which the church can actually play a positive role in fixing problems by influencing grass root support of those that wish to maintain the status quo.
Obviously I agree with the Pope here, but I still find it funny that we are all surprised (including myself) when a Pope is making statements like this. This really is the kind of thing that the Pope should be saying.
Ben, TYT should get in touch with the pope and ask him to come to the U.S. to speak out against super pacs and discuss the need to get money out of politics. The pope coming to the U.S. and calling American politics corrupt/soaked in money (money changers in the temple) would catch some media attention.
A Pope I can respect?
Has Hell frozen?
He believes that virgins give birth and that men can survive in the belly of a whale. Then he expects you to believe his bullshit.
How do you respect that?
Dennis Pearce Okay he wouldn't make a good science teacher but a person in his position making such statements is very good.
For a man who runs an organization with global real estate, gold and famous art decorated churches and palaces and with massive tax cuts and donations he has a big mouth ... Why doesn't the church start with paying the same taxrate, sell some gold and relics and give that to the poor !!! Hypocrites
distractify.com/people/reasons-why-pope-francis-is-the-person-of-the-year/
I loved how it ended:
God bless the pope!
The "trickle down" thing is more like "let us be at the top and we might throw you a bone every once in a while."
Hm. My faith in humanity is coming back…. i don't think I like it.
Pope Francis 2016!
...Oh, wait.
FINALLY! a real Pope!
Go Left!
Good job, Ben!
Capitalism = fail
Communism = fail
Social Democracy = win
This pope is inspirational.
You know the world is severely fucked up when the pope makes sense.
I never thought I'd like the Pope.
Why does everyone ignore the scandinavian? I Norway we are a socialist democracy that works! The taxes that the rich have to pay here is > or = 40% of incoming + taxes on top of stored richness. This is the same thing as ignoring Amsterdam when it comes to legalization of marijuana. Social democracy works! And Amsterdam works!
Ahh this is a side of Ben I like. Be like this more often Ben!!
I like that Francis hasn't backed down from any of the pressure he's been receiving. If I didn't know any better, I'd almost want to convert.
He needs to keep telling it like it is, and hopefully Catholics will follow suit.
Good guy Francis.
Go Pope Go! This system we live by has inequality/poverty built in. More and more people are seeing this and I'm glad that some people in high places are not only realizing it, but actually talking about it. I'd like to take it a step further... instead of wealth redistribution... imagine wealth elimination. Let's move past the monetary system already and start taking care of everyone.
Yes! I could not agree more
I think I like this pope.
I never imagined the day would come.
"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein
A welcome surprise!
Ignore the fact that he has made it illegal to report child abuse, he hates the rich yay.
Never thought I'd say this but... I love this pope.
You're throwing your hat in with a dude who believes that some sky-god sacrificed himself to himself to save you from himself because he said things about capitalism?
Boy, glad you're not naive or anything... lol
Dennis Pearce Is everything black & white for you? Just because Darwin got loads of things wrong, do you reject the things he got right?
Who cares what Pope Francis believes that we don't. This is a man with great political influence who's accusing so called Christians of acting in woefully Unchristian ways.
He's actually striving to clean house, he's always lived a frugally as his office has allowed, & I think he's a man of conscience.
I was raised Catholic, & this is the first Pope I have respect for. He's walked the walk & I'm glad he now has the power to talk the talk.
The deluded have to be led, better this man than his predecessors. His message is that unfettered capitalism is fundamentally Unchristian.
DAVID KEENAN I guess I just delve my respect out differently than you do.
Dennis Pearce Fair comment, I can respect that.
Dennis Pearce Listen, he is a religious guy (no shit), so of course his views will differ from mine, or clearly yours. But to be honest, his beliefs are in my opinion a lot less important than his actions. He is, at least when compared to an American with equally strong religious beliefs, a pretty good guy. Really, what I meant to say was not that I love the guy, but merely that I was impressed with how different he was than the views I have a right wing religious american.
i'm an atheist and i think this guy should be canonized!!! go papi!
Finally! A liberal pope!
Ben Mank is by far the best TYT anchor IMHO. Glad to see him in front of the cameras more.
first things first. Lets tax the church.
doesn't that violate church-state separation? how will you keep creationism out of your schools if you violate that idea yourself?
guird4 Perhaps what we should do is make churches and other places of worship go through the paperwork that a non-profit has to go through, otherwise, it is open to heavy abuse. Just last year there was a swinger club in Texas that classified it as a church in order to evade taxes. Additionally, non-profits must also proof that they as an organization, do not endorse a particular candidate.
guird4 take a look at this, www.examiner.com/article/secular-victory-religious-income-tax-exemption-ruled-unconstitutional
German media called him communist for this.
i wonder if the pope understands what irony is:))
Says the guy sitting on billions of dollars worth of gold, art and land.