I owned a 2014 explorer. It’s certainly not geared to off roading but based on my extensive driving on the beach and in snow, I was very impressed with its capabilities and certainly didn’t expect it. I really wish they offered a airbag suspension upgrade on the newer explorers. The ground clearance was the only major factor that ever held me back on the Beach.
Ford Explorer is the best in my book. Today I drove a Explorer, a Grand Cherokee with a V8 and a Pathfinder. The Jeep had the best power but overall I liked the Explorer the best. The Pathfinder is not even a option,
I like you guys, especially the TFL Truck channel. But this was not even close a test of AWD systems. This was a test of OEM tires and stock ride height. I didn't see any terrain that the Equinox couldn't handle but for its ride height. Ditto the Explorer. And clearly that was the case, since those two made it similar distances because similar paths were taken (although we have no idea how far you actually went, since there's no map and no indication of distance traveled from the trail head). The Jeep easily made it the farthest taking a more difficult line, but of course it would. But you didn't say anything about the Jeep's tech, only that the Ford's 3 modes give it a fighting chance. About the only thing useful I got out of this is that the Equinox will get pretty far so long at the rocks don't exceed 5-6 inches in height. That could have been assumed of the Explorer, as well. And the JGC might as well be a Wrangler in comparison to the other two. For a test of competing AWD/4WD systems, you need to take these things through significant muddy areas, snow, ice, some rocky trails, gravel, etc.
We had to reuse some of the video clips because honestly our hands were so frozen from shooting in the freezing rain we didn't get enough video of all three vehicles.
Hay I remember that guy in the Toyota Tacoma from when y'all were reviewing the Lexus GX460 in the snow. That little Toyota truck can take a good beating. Great video.
The Equinox does have a button on the lift-gate to open it, it is in between the rear licence plate lights under the chrome bit. at least it is there on the GMC Terrain.
THANK YOU for clarifing the difference between a crossover and SUV, I'm so tired of explaining the difference to people and them telling me I'm wrong cause they don't understand. no one belives me when i say there are only a hand full of SUVs left and most are crossovers
The old Explorer would be a pretty awesome vehicle for this job. Problem is the newer Explorer is no longer a off-road SUV. The Jeep is by far the best vehicle in this category. The only thing I reckon that wi'll match the Grand Cherokee in this environment is the ML-class Mercedes or the Range Rovers, which both are CONSIDERABLY more expensive. (I didn't count the FJ Cruiser simply because it's more of a Wrangler than an actual day-to-day SUV)
Well as an Equinox owner (unfortunately) I must say...... If the cherokee is even remotely being compared to my heap of garbage, it has fallen a very long way. So sad America. So sad. Equinox has the turning radius of a school bus with all of the off road capability of a prius.
I am not trying to argue with you, but the Jeep Cherokee is actually a crossover and always has been. See from what I understand (correct me if im wrong) a crossover is defined by whether it is a body on frame design or a Unibody. A crossover, is defined of a Unibody which is what the Cherokee has. Like I say, not trying to pick a fight, just informing :)
After looking some of your videos, I came to conclusion than the Grand Cherokee is probably the best SUV on market for the price. It seems to be built tougher than the ford. Good job Jeep! But.. I still love the Ford for urban driving and technology.
10:53 For the Sync issues, the easiest way I found is to remove fuse allocated for the "Sync Head unit". Out and then In nothing else fancy, the unit reboot and should not freeze for a while.
The plastic molding on the bottem front of the Chevy Equinox can be somewhat easily removed to add more ground clearence. Great video guys! keep 'em coming!
Even if they break all the time, they are awesome vehicles when they are working. The diesel engine option is a much more reliable option and doesnt break quite as often.
@@finncampeau4922 Jeep's parent company might be owned by fiat now, but the WK and WK2 Grand Cherokee platform pre-date the FCA merger. Still very much Chrysler made 100%.
I own a 2013 Overland.. and I can tell you it's been off road with Rovers, JKs. and every other SUV and Truck and it's had no issues keeping up. The new JGC's are awesome off road. I have videos on my channel showing just a few examples of what it's capable of.. search "Jeep" on my channel.
Well, let's see...the new POS Exploder is a sideways engined, wrong-wheel-drive Taurus station wagon. The Equinox is basically a wrong-wheel-drive Impala wagon. Because they are both based on wrong-wheel-drive car platforms, that makes them crossovers, or CUV's. The Jeep is the only real SUV on this list. It sits on a proper longitudinal-engine, REAR-WHEEL-DRIVE platform and has an optional V-8 engine and a real 4x4 system with a low-range. And it is NOT based on a car platform. I haven't seen the whole video, but I'll bet the Jeep beat the stuffin' out of those other two "cars". LOL!
Technically, the grand Cherokee because of the v8 option and its Jeeps biggest SUV actually competes with the Tahoe which is real 4x4 as well... The Equinox shouldn't even be in this comparison as it competes with the small Jeep Cherokee and the Ford Escape.
I owned a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Eco Diesel Limited for 4 years and just changed over to a 2013 Ford Explorer Limited regular gas. I am super happy with the Ford Explorer! I do agree that auto air lift suspension is a nice fancy feature giving you an added 2", it comes with a hefty price. I am not just talking the initial purchase price of the vehicle, as it is a hefty service price $$$$. After 3 years of driving my Jeep on dirt roads and sanded snowy roads of only 21+/- days a year in the great Pacific Northwest the air lift suspension started failing due to tiny dirt particles destroying the porous air bags. On the Jeep Grand Cherokee, you will eventually receive a dash warning light and be riding on rock hard springs & must take into a dealer to be fixed @ cost of approximately $4000 + tax. The air suspension is not filled with air, as it is filled with Nitrogen and the only way to refill it is at the dealer who has the proprietary equipment to service this fancy air/nitrogen suspension and fix it. Try refilling it with air and it not work or ruin the air/nitrogen suspension (requires special dealer tool to fill up) + continue displaying service light on dash. This is one of the many reason why the Jeep Grand Cherokee is an extremely expensive vehicle to service and maintain coming from a previous owner. Summary, if you want these extra bells and whistles be ready to pay for them to be service, as they are expensive. This is just one of the many reasons why I switched to a Ford Explorer!
This is kinda sad, when I was in school in the 80s and 90s, the competing reviews were of the Ford Explorer vs Chevy S-10 Blazer vs Jeep Cherokee, and they were able to actually off-road with them, bury them in mud, negotiate rocks, and so on. Now with these wussified delicate street machines, my driveway is considered severe driving conditions. They are simply plastic station wagons, NOT sport utility vehicles. Case in point, where on any of those vehicles did you see anywhere to attach a log chain for vehicle recovery?
I wouldn't consider the jeep wussified,it has much better ground clearance,better approach angles and can go through deeper water than the 90's version and it can negotiate rocks without problem. It also has less plastic. Everything is soft touch, even has real wood leather dash and suede headliner, which is also an improvement from the 90's and you must of missed the fact it actually has skid plates and yes I did see tow hooks on the jeep for vehicle recovery. It is a better off-roader than what Ford or GM is putting out in the same class.
I use to like there reviews but this is bs. Not to mention in the video the chev drives over the same rock at 3:393:50 and again at 4:40 and the ford drives over the same rock twice and spines its front tire at 7:30 and 9:54. No more views by me.
Sadly.. And so called reboots are also rebadged soccer mom mobiles with the same undercarriage of a corolla, insulting the legacy of that model and the brand.
Definately a light off road trail. But personally I'd consider anything you cant take a front wheel drive Prius on "off road" - even if it's not a super hard trail.
I kinda wish you wouldn’t have been a wimp in the Ford. The front lip actually is soft and folds. Also the lip does nothing, the police interceptor ones don’t have it.
Here is my 2 cents about Jeep GC. 2003 Oct-Nov worst winter storm in NE of US, a normal 5 hrs trip DC-NYC turned 8+hrs. Many cars/trucks stuck on both sides NJ turnpike, I was having the fun of my life time and used the turnpike as play ground. Next day, most sedans were buried under snow/ice, few cars were on the road in Queens NY, 17F outside. Entire Grand Cherokee was buried under snow, it started on first crank and "hopped out" under snow mount. 2005 Hurricane Katrina hits Miami, I was the only car on I-95 at 1am. Wind might pushed the JGC a bit and steering was a bit loose, 65mph, and 45 mins later, I got home without any issue. Next day, I had plenty fun, again hopped through fallen tree trunks and others just u turned after followed me. South FL floods every time it rains, JGC never had an issue, I just swimed through, while other people looked on with shock. Because I look for deep floods to run through to wash bottom of the Jeep. When I traded in JGC, odometer was 173,000ish. Stunned the Honda mechanic how quiet and smooth the 6 cylinders in the Jeep GC. Yeah, it was an old 1998, 3rd owner Jeep GC. So why traded in? Too much gas. Miss it? You betja!
ive got the 2013 ford explorer limited and I beat the crap out of the thing and it just takes it all. I took it mudding in northern michigan with no problems and it does great in the snow.
These cars don't really directly compete though... maybe Equinox with the Explorer... but the GRAND Cherokee is a different car, not in the same league with the other 2... I would like to see a Grand Cherokee vs Expedition vs Tahoe... that will be a much more fair match... This video is way too bias towards Jeep...
Tacoma, Tundra, Raptor. And in the case of the 4Runner, Tacoma, and Tundra. You know it won't breakdown in the middle of no where. Unlike everything Chrysler touches.
***** What year is your TB, because the one we had was terrible with reliability. The main computer had to be replaced, the tranny died at 100k miles, and the A/C leaked all over the passenger footwell. And we didn't get it to half of what yours had.
+Andrew Nicholas Same year as ours. I'm a mechanic, but I probably don't do as thorough of a check as the dealership. Though I do believe reliability with most TBs were somewhat poor. hopefully Ford will bring back the Bronco and then force GM to make something to compete with it.
Not to mention, the Explorer is built to last a lunchtime. So not only is it terrible on anything other than wet leaves, it will leave you stranded as well.
You seem to have made an error in how you described the Grand Cherokee as a crossover. The Jeep brand makes SUV based uni-body constructed vehicles. It is impossible for a 1993 Grand Cherokee to be a crossover, as Chrysler did not invent that term until 2003 with the invention of the Dodge Magnum and Chrysler Pacifica. Before that, there was no such thing as a crossover. The term SUV was invented, by Jeep, because people were calling their Toyota 4Runner, Ford Bronco, and Chevy Blazer a 'JEEP'. You guys are supposed to be car experts, I can't believe you called a Grand Cherokee a Crossover. I wish I could do what you do for a living. Maybe you could just hire me for fact checking, and to help edit out some comments.
+Shan Thomas nah it is a crossover. This generation of Grand Cherokee is based on the 2005-2011 Mercedes Benz M class, which itself is a crossover sharing platform with the Mercedes E class. The Grand Cherokee was developed before Daimler sold Chrysler shares.
adsfafad yea, I got a 2020 CG Trailhawk for about $39 with pretty much everything. Traded in my 2018 Cherokee TH and got a good price for that. So brand new car for around $20k...sweet.
Agree. But I could get this wonderful vehicle with low miles for a very good price. It’s just sucks that people don’t make enough money to be able to afford it brand new. But that’s life. Not everybody has deep pockets
Unreliable? Ive taken mine from Panama to Newfoundland to Alaska. 240000 miles and going strong. The biggest issue was a power steering pump replacement which took 45 min. Know your vehicle and maintain it. You cant stop a Jeep!
Any day is a good day to go shooting. That's why they make stainless steel guns. :-) Great video guys! It really highlights the range of capabilities available.
No different than any truck, could have been of any make. Trucks were designed from the onset to go off road, these vehicles other than the Jeep are essentially for people that should buy a mini-van however won't buy one, and their off-road capability is marginally better than a mini-van. i've seen a GC's clutch packs over heat in 3" at the bottom of a slightly slick hill and strand the driver, while a Jeep Cherokee, never had a single issue.
I actually watched this hoping the Chevy would get stuck. Anyone silly enough to off road in a Exquinox deserves to get stuck!!! From a car enthusiasts stand point this is a pointless comparison anyone who knows a half wit about cars knows the Grand Cherokee wins this easily. A Grand Cherokee 4x4 is not a cross over not sure why they would downgrade A TRUE SUV and call it such a thing. GC competes with Range Rover and Land Rover not these throw away get stuck in snow mobile likes of Explorers and *lol* a Equinox.
So by that classification an old jeep Cherokee XJ is a crossover? I don't consider a grand Cherokee or the old cherokee to be crossovers just because they have a unibody even if they fit in by definition, they are clearly not in the same class as other crossovers that are essentially stationwagons.
In the past I had bad experience with Chrysler, Manley electrical so I've been sticking to Ford. Ever since Mercedes pretty much took over Chrysler they have done a 180. I bought a jeep grand cherokee 5.7 Hemi and I Love it. Could use a little more power, but I can take care of that with some bolt on's and a tune
The Ford Explorer is considered a midsize SUV, and even competes with full size Suv's and body on frame SUV's. The Equinox ia a compact crossover and competes with COMPACT cars. How is this comparison relevant these cars are DIFFERENT sizes... And don't even get me started with the JEEP. Like where is Emmy? These old fart car reviewers are not good people, they have stalked me and raped me. This video DOES NOT make me moist and i am positive my breast emplants, which i cut out of inside me are in the BACK SEAT of the Ford Explorer. He didnt even talk about the cargo capacity. I am DONE.
you need to let the terrain management system on the explorer kick in. You gave up on it too soon. I used mine and works way better than what you guys just tested.
So far I haven't bottomed out. But it really depends how much off roading you do. I was exactly like you. Torn between those two. But the only deciding factor was the third row. Man it comes in handy. But offroading definitely the jeep
Saying that grand Cherokee is a crossover and always has been is completely wrong. A crossover is a car platform with an suv body. I don't think any cars built in the early 90s to 2004 by Chrysler had front and rear solid axles.. Being of unibody construction does not in any way make it a crossover..
Tyler Luckenbill thank you, my thoughts exactly. By their definition the XJ would be a crossover too, no way in hell the old cherokee and GC is a crossover.
3 different vehicles the jeep has heritage and is made for off roading I'm a ford guy and I actually love the new explorer the 16 and up but I wouldn't dare try to take it off road it's a family hauler with a neat terrain management that makes it semi capable but it's just for snow or maybe a dirt road
I think I am going to subscribe just because of all the negativity and hate! I think we are seeing a lot of real off-road aficionados commenting on something that is not necessarily a joke video but a comparison of bad crossovers. There is an unfortunate understanding from the masses that crossovers are off-road ready when in truth they are really the new "definition" of station wagon. I have a Dodge Journey that is "capable" of this but really isnt.
I was lookin into getting a Jeep. But today I ended up buying a 2014 Chevy equinox and so far I’m loving it. I love the way it drives, its spacious and WAY BETTER than my 04 Chevy Malibu so I’m VERY VERY content with it.
I actually just bought a 15 equinox last week after my 04 ram started costing too much money. I knew it wasn't really for off roading but was a little more capable than a fwd. One thing I see from these old videos is that you dont say which engine or anything like you do now.
They put the Explorer in the wrong mode. They put the Explorer into mud and rut mode which is for when you need to spin the wheels going through mud puddles. Snow gravel grass mode optimizes traction control for slippery surfaces like dirt gravel etc
Not a bad video but the visuals I found pretty lacking. 4:32 uses the same shot for the 3rd time, while not showing us what obstacle the guys were actually having trouble with.
Thanks for the kind comments. We really appreciate the words of support. BTW: Tomorrow we'll post a true TFLcar Mashup. We're going back to our roots and comparing two very different cars just for the fun of it. We're Mashing up the new Fiat 500 Turbo against the Honda Crosstour in a 0-60 MPH battle of big vs tiny. Please stay tuned for that video tomorrow. Thanks for watching!
At least Jeep still kept it's heritage of real offroading and added an air suspension. Jeep shows you that you don't need to completley sacrafice anything to get better mileage, nice ride and handling. If the new Explorer had a better 4wd system with an air suspension it would be much better.... I will get a Jeep when I have the money,
I am glad they pointed out just how VASTLY different these three vehicles are. The Traverse would've been a better comparison for the Explorer. And let me guess, everyone with their head a respectable distance away from their fecal matter knew the Jeep was going to destroy the other two systems in this comparison. These guys are fun though.
In this lineup definitely, when GM did away with the body-on-frame trailblazer they basically said screw the off-road market. In all honesty. The Tahoe can be decent if you want to configure it for off road but it's a giant vechile. The suburban even larger. The old school trailblazer wasn't bad but had a fairly weak transmission. The equinox, this was done during the last little bit of it having a third row, and it was always intended as a station wagon that looked tougher than it was and had all-wheel drive to keep you from getting stuck in the snow on the way to work, and mud at rainy youth soccer games.
we have a mountaineer and i agree with you with this new body style hate the new EPA regulations that all suv's have to have atleast 30 mpg city now. sucks. sorry for your loss with your explorer i love explorers
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I owned a 2014 explorer. It’s certainly not geared to off roading but based on my extensive driving on the beach and in snow, I was very impressed with its capabilities and certainly didn’t expect it. I really wish they offered a airbag suspension upgrade on the newer explorers. The ground clearance was the only major factor that ever held me back on the Beach.
seemed more like a ground clearance test than a AWD test
Yeah off-road test like the title says lmao bot
You know you need more footage when you show the same segment 3 times in the same sequence!
right wtf.. He's like this is getting rough shows the same footage 3 times.
Ford Explorer is the best in my book. Today I drove a Explorer, a Grand Cherokee with a V8 and a Pathfinder. The Jeep had the best power but overall I liked the Explorer the best. The Pathfinder is not even a option,
Jeep Grand Cherokee all the way.
I'd rather have a 90s jeep cherokee over any newer model any day of the week
@@tomgorneault8317 The new ones are nightmare, or grocery getters, so yeah
1999 Grand cherokee WJ was the best jeep ever made.
Ford explorer all the way
@@zaccorpseman7366 how many have you owned LMAO.
They'll all go anywhere you're man enough to take them. It's more about experience then vehicular compensation.
With the chevy I'd say that statement was a bit wrong
I like you guys, especially the TFL Truck channel. But this was not even close a test of AWD systems. This was a test of OEM tires and stock ride height. I didn't see any terrain that the Equinox couldn't handle but for its ride height. Ditto the Explorer. And clearly that was the case, since those two made it similar distances because similar paths were taken (although we have no idea how far you actually went, since there's no map and no indication of distance traveled from the trail head). The Jeep easily made it the farthest taking a more difficult line, but of course it would. But you didn't say anything about the Jeep's tech, only that the Ford's 3 modes give it a fighting chance. About the only thing useful I got out of this is that the Equinox will get pretty far so long at the rocks don't exceed 5-6 inches in height. That could have been assumed of the Explorer, as well. And the JGC might as well be a Wrangler in comparison to the other two.
For a test of competing AWD/4WD systems, you need to take these things through significant muddy areas, snow, ice, some rocky trails, gravel, etc.
Thank you! They do this often.
We had to reuse some of the video clips because honestly our hands were so frozen from shooting in the freezing rain we didn't get enough video of all three vehicles.
Hay I remember that guy in the Toyota Tacoma from when y'all were reviewing the Lexus GX460 in the snow. That little Toyota truck can take a good beating. Great video.
The Equinox does have a button on the lift-gate to open it, it is in between the rear licence plate lights under the chrome bit. at least it is there on the GMC Terrain.
yea the jeep took that win for sure, i'm thinking of replacing my 2010 escape with a 16 grand cherokee limited.
THANK YOU for clarifing the difference between a crossover and SUV, I'm so tired of explaining the difference to people and them telling me I'm wrong cause they don't understand. no one belives me when i say there are only a hand full of SUVs left and most are crossovers
They dont go too far away from the road, they keep showing the same part from outside but change the inside(like their conversation and andre).
There always so much bash on the Grand Cherokees...have had two and just got a 2018 Overland version, black on black...they are very sexy.
The jeep dominated. It offers alot for its class and as a brand it continuously improves.
thumbs up to fiat?
Yeah but word has it their fucking themselves with that cvt transmission
@@jamesdean4992 None of the big jeeps have cvt
I'm not even a car enthusiast but i watch these videos because you guys have such good chemistry ;)
That's how I feel about my Canadian boys at Throttle House.
The old Explorer would be a pretty awesome vehicle for this job. Problem is the newer Explorer is no longer a off-road SUV.
The Jeep is by far the best vehicle in this category. The only thing I reckon that wi'll match the Grand Cherokee in this environment is the ML-class Mercedes or the Range Rovers, which both are CONSIDERABLY more expensive. (I didn't count the FJ Cruiser simply because it's more of a Wrangler than an actual day-to-day SUV)
Well the Four Runner likes to be high class,
yea it competes with the JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE 5.7 hemi or the 3.0 turbo diesel lol I love jeeps
Exactly explorer is perfect for city dwellers who deal with snow but seriously the old explorer is a better off road capable vehicle
Other brands wouldn't make me not want to buy a Chevy, it was Chevy that would make me buy something besides a chevy
"The Jeep is by far the best vehicle in this category"...The Cherokee is a POS period!
Wild watching these old videos, they've come a long ways with production but the charm is still the same!
Well as an Equinox owner (unfortunately) I must say...... If the cherokee is even remotely being compared to my heap of garbage, it has fallen a very long way.
So sad America. So sad.
Equinox has the turning radius of a school bus with all of the off road capability of a prius.
Hence why everyone is saying its a stupid comparison.
I am not trying to argue with you, but the Jeep Cherokee is actually a crossover and always has been. See from what I understand (correct me if im wrong) a crossover is defined by whether it is a body on frame design or a Unibody. A crossover, is defined of a Unibody which is what the Cherokee has. Like I say, not trying to pick a fight, just informing :)
It's a suv
After looking some of your videos, I came to conclusion than the Grand Cherokee is probably the best SUV on market for the price. It seems to be built tougher than the ford. Good job Jeep! But.. I still love the Ford for urban driving and technology.
10:53
For the Sync issues, the easiest way I found is to remove fuse allocated for the "Sync Head unit".
Out and then In nothing else fancy, the unit reboot and should not freeze for a while.
Ah yes, so proud of my Grand Cherokee Overland!!!
The plastic molding on the bottem front of the Chevy Equinox can be somewhat easily removed to add more ground clearence. Great video guys! keep 'em coming!
Do a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk vs 4runner TRD Pro please!!!
I see more and more of those 2013 ford explorers nowadays! They are so awesome looking! Keep up the good work ford!
I LOVE JEEP GRAND CHEROKEES
Even if they break all the time, they are awesome vehicles when they are working.
The diesel engine option is a much more reliable option and doesnt break quite as often.
@@finncampeau4922 Jeep's parent company might be owned by fiat now, but the WK and WK2 Grand Cherokee platform pre-date the FCA merger. Still very much Chrysler made 100%.
@@finncampeau4922 I’ve had multiple Grand Cherokees and never had an issue. 🤷♂️
@@finncampeau4922 ford and chevy out of these three deff break more
@@JaxWatchesandEDC yep my grand cherokees been perfect
I own a 2013 Overland.. and I can tell you it's been off road with Rovers, JKs. and every other SUV and Truck and it's had no issues keeping up. The new JGC's are awesome off road. I have videos on my channel showing just a few examples of what it's capable of.. search "Jeep" on my channel.
Well, let's see...the new POS Exploder is a sideways engined, wrong-wheel-drive Taurus station wagon. The Equinox is basically a wrong-wheel-drive Impala wagon. Because they are both based on wrong-wheel-drive car platforms, that makes them crossovers, or CUV's. The Jeep is the only real SUV on this list. It sits on a proper longitudinal-engine, REAR-WHEEL-DRIVE platform and has an optional V-8 engine and a real 4x4 system with a low-range. And it is NOT based on a car platform. I haven't seen the whole video, but I'll bet the Jeep beat the stuffin' out of those other two "cars". LOL!
@Anoymoose the Grand Cherokee has never had a frame... It is a sport ute because it's not based on a car platform crossing over segments.
Technically, the grand Cherokee because of the v8 option and its Jeeps biggest SUV actually competes with the Tahoe which is real 4x4 as well... The Equinox shouldn't even be in this comparison as it competes with the small Jeep Cherokee and the Ford Escape.
+Chris Haywood i will agree, the vehicle that the equinox replaced was much more capable off road
hello from 2021. You guys have changed ALOT!!! you MEN!
An old xj with 300k miles will still tool these off road
Any trail that requires flex. But the WK traction system is beyond an xj
I owned a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Eco Diesel Limited for 4 years and just changed over to a 2013 Ford Explorer Limited regular gas. I am super happy with the Ford Explorer! I do agree that auto air lift suspension is a nice fancy feature giving you an added 2", it comes with a hefty price. I am not just talking the initial purchase price of the vehicle, as it is a hefty service price $$$$. After 3 years of driving my Jeep on dirt roads and sanded snowy roads of only 21+/- days a year in the great Pacific Northwest the air lift suspension started failing due to tiny dirt particles destroying the porous air bags. On the Jeep Grand Cherokee, you will eventually receive a dash warning light and be riding on rock hard springs & must take into a dealer to be fixed @ cost of approximately $4000 + tax. The air suspension is not filled with air, as it is filled with Nitrogen and the only way to refill it is at the dealer who has the proprietary equipment to service this fancy air/nitrogen suspension and fix it. Try refilling it with air and it not work or ruin the air/nitrogen suspension (requires special dealer tool to fill up) + continue displaying service light on dash. This is one of the many reason why the Jeep Grand Cherokee is an extremely expensive vehicle to service and maintain coming from a previous owner. Summary, if you want these extra bells and whistles be ready to pay for them to be service, as they are expensive. This is just one of the many reasons why I switched to a Ford Explorer!
Did you have warranty still
11:50 taking the jeep up the trail with the suspension raised is not a fair comparison, that's like having the explorer and equinox play handicapped.
awww
So funny seeing Andre as a background character 10 years ago and now he's sort of the main host and face of TFL.
This is kinda sad, when I was in school in the 80s and 90s, the competing reviews were of the Ford Explorer vs Chevy S-10 Blazer vs Jeep Cherokee, and they were able to actually off-road with them, bury them in mud, negotiate rocks, and so on. Now with these wussified delicate street machines, my driveway is considered severe driving conditions. They are simply plastic station wagons, NOT sport utility vehicles. Case in point, where on any of those vehicles did you see anywhere to attach a log chain for vehicle recovery?
I wouldn't consider the jeep wussified,it has much better ground clearance,better approach angles and can go through deeper water than the 90's version and it can negotiate rocks without problem. It also has less plastic. Everything is soft touch, even has real wood leather dash and suede headliner, which is also an improvement from the 90's and you must of missed the fact it actually has skid plates and yes I did see tow hooks on the jeep for vehicle recovery. It is a better off-roader than what Ford or GM is putting out in the same class.
gitaklu1 I just wish they would make a Cherokee or similar with solid axles in a more basic 4 door vehicle, like a UAZ patriot.
***** You can get a 4 door wrangler with solid axles yet.
Yea, one vehicle which i like jeeps i own them, im thinking more on the level of a new Cherokee with solid axles.
Ive gone mudding in my 2012 awd Nox, and some muddy water got into the rear diff. covered under warranty for $6500!!!!!
ALSO THE EQUINOX IS AWD ALL OF THE TIME.... UP TO 25MPH lol
I use to like there reviews but this is bs. Not to mention in the video the chev drives over the same rock at 3:39 3:50 and again at 4:40 and the ford drives over the same rock twice and spines its front tire at 7:30 and 9:54. No more views by me.
dieselyota noticed that too
It really is a shame that no one is making actually SUVs anymore. The Jeep Wrangler and Ford Bronco are basically the only ones
Sadly.. And so called reboots are also rebadged soccer mom mobiles with the same undercarriage of a corolla, insulting the legacy of that model and the brand.
I like all of the fords
You guys always put on a show that I never miss. Good job
Are you guys really call this a bit rocky highway - OFF-ROAD? :)
Well Yeah we are in the Rockies
Definately a light off road trail. But personally I'd consider anything you cant take a front wheel drive Prius on "off road" - even if it's not a super hard trail.
I kinda wish you wouldn’t have been a wimp in the Ford. The front lip actually is soft and folds. Also the lip does nothing, the police interceptor ones don’t have it.
They showed the same out of car footage 4 times.
Here is my 2 cents about Jeep GC. 2003 Oct-Nov worst winter storm in NE of US, a normal 5 hrs trip DC-NYC turned 8+hrs. Many cars/trucks stuck on both sides NJ turnpike, I was having the fun of my life time and used the turnpike as play ground. Next day, most sedans were buried under snow/ice, few cars were on the road in Queens NY, 17F outside. Entire Grand Cherokee was buried under snow, it started on first crank and "hopped out" under snow mount. 2005 Hurricane Katrina hits Miami, I was the only car on I-95 at 1am. Wind might pushed the JGC a bit and steering was a bit loose, 65mph, and 45 mins later, I got home without any issue. Next day, I had plenty fun, again hopped through fallen tree trunks and others just u turned after followed me. South FL floods every time it rains, JGC never had an issue, I just swimed through, while other people looked on with shock. Because I look for deep floods to run through to wash bottom of the Jeep. When I traded in JGC, odometer was 173,000ish. Stunned the Honda mechanic how quiet and smooth the 6 cylinders in the Jeep GC. Yeah, it was an old 1998, 3rd owner Jeep GC. So why traded in? Too much gas. Miss it? You betja!
NoteAndroid heck yeah man Jeeps ftw
I had a 99 GC v8, went through a blizzard fully loaded moving furniture. Still miss it
grand Cherokee.... a crossover....... smdh.
ive got the 2013 ford explorer limited and I beat the crap out of the thing and it just takes it all. I took it mudding in northern michigan with no problems and it does great in the snow.
These cars don't really directly compete though... maybe Equinox with the Explorer... but the GRAND Cherokee is a different car, not in the same league with the other 2...
I would like to see a Grand Cherokee vs Expedition vs Tahoe... that will be a much more fair match...
This video is way too bias towards Jeep...
+mrN3w7 It should have been a Chevy Tahoe anyway not a damn Equinox.
+Flatline Heartbeat It should have been a Chevy Traverse. Tahoe would be way too big in comparison to the other vehicles.
+WuWei Xu forsre
I loved that Toyota! You just cant beat the old Yotas... or even the new ones. I wonder how the Highlander would have done.
Other than Jeep, you cant buy anything off road capable now days.
what...
The 4runner?
Tacoma, Tundra, Raptor.
And in the case of the 4Runner, Tacoma, and Tundra. You know it won't breakdown in the middle of no where. Unlike everything Chrysler touches.
***** What year is your TB, because the one we had was terrible with reliability. The main computer had to be replaced, the tranny died at 100k miles, and the A/C leaked all over the passenger footwell. And we didn't get it to half of what yours had.
+Andrew Nicholas Same year as ours. I'm a mechanic, but I probably don't do as thorough of a check as the dealership. Though I do believe reliability with most TBs were somewhat poor. hopefully Ford will bring back the Bronco and then force GM to make something to compete with it.
U GUYS ARE MY FAV AUTO CHANNEL..KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GUYS !!!
Not to mention, the Explorer is built to last a lunchtime. So not only is it terrible on anything other than wet leaves, it will leave you stranded as well.
lmao
Exactly what I was thinking man
Hi, is the Grand Cherokee reliable?
my explorer is 200k strong and going daily.. your comment is invalid... I do have a second gen though that would out do all of these stock
sho942000 yea and maybe thats why they are used as police interceptors now of days. Lmao your comment is invalid af
Grand cheroke and explorer owner couldn't be more proud
5:23 Toyota guys cracking up.......
Even Suzuki Swit guys do as well I think..
lol
Seems it would have been a little more comparative if you at least took a base Laredo rather than the overland.
You seem to have made an error in how you described the Grand Cherokee as a crossover. The Jeep brand makes SUV based uni-body constructed vehicles. It is impossible for a 1993 Grand Cherokee to be a crossover, as Chrysler did not invent that term until 2003 with the invention of the Dodge Magnum and Chrysler Pacifica. Before that, there was no such thing as a crossover. The term SUV was invented, by Jeep, because people were calling their Toyota 4Runner, Ford Bronco, and Chevy Blazer a 'JEEP'. You guys are supposed to be car experts, I can't believe you called a Grand Cherokee a Crossover. I wish I could do what you do for a living. Maybe you could just hire me for fact checking, and to help edit out some comments.
+Shan Thomas nah it is a crossover. This generation of Grand Cherokee is based on the 2005-2011 Mercedes Benz M class, which itself is a crossover sharing platform with the Mercedes E class. The Grand Cherokee was developed before Daimler sold Chrysler shares.
Infiniti Fx 35 was first xover
Shan Thomas the RAV4 and Honda CR-V are two of the 1st crossover vehicles Lexus Rx300 was the first luxury crossover.
I have a 2015 Equinox. It is capable in snow and ice. My only complaint is the lower over hang of the front facia of the vehicle.
If your looking to buy any of these cars, don't base it off this video these guys have no idea what they are doing
The average driver doesn't either, so it's actually a good review for the average driver to compare these SUVs.
I agree 100 % If you are going to test do it right same weight in the vehicle & go over the same rocks.
50K for a Jeep, no thanks
@adsfafad you can actually get them for 25k or so at the moment
adsfafad yea, I got a 2020 CG Trailhawk for about $39 with pretty much everything. Traded in my 2018 Cherokee TH and got a good price for that. So brand new car for around $20k...sweet.
@@megabyte7047 what was the mileage on the cheroke you traded in?
@@mr_4point681 16k ish
Agree. But I could get this wonderful vehicle with low miles for a very good price. It’s just sucks that people don’t make enough money to be able to afford it brand new.
But that’s life. Not everybody has deep pockets
They have already done that video too.This is a mash-up video, if you watched other mash-up videos they don't make sense, they are just for fun.
The Jeep might be the most off-road capable of the 3, but it's also probably the most unreliable.
Unreliable? Ive taken mine from Panama to Newfoundland to Alaska. 240000 miles and going strong. The biggest issue was a power steering pump replacement which took 45 min. Know your vehicle and maintain it. You cant stop a Jeep!
Jeep owns:). It will go places where most suv's won't. Although it has same platform as Mercedes GL, it's more off road capable.
i dont know much about the newest jeeps but ive seen older ones take beatings you couldnt imagine and keep on going like nothing happened
Newer ones too, there's a reason so many of them sell.
Highest Point
uh no, jeeps are very reliable. now the GM car is a different story
Any day is a good day to go shooting. That's why they make stainless steel guns. :-)
Great video guys! It really highlights the range of capabilities available.
Go equinox!
ya
+FaDe Racoon02 Equinox? That sounds like a pill for constipation...WTF would name a truck that?
+Mike Samra it's the name of a car. The best car. Lol
You guys have the best job in the world
The Toyota driving by made me laugh my ass off. I'll never own anything but Toyota or Nissan.
Nissan's had some real lemons though.
Nissan is partnered with Chevy. I don't trust either brands.
telecomguy10 Garbage.
No different than any truck, could have been of any make. Trucks were designed from the onset to go off road, these vehicles other than the Jeep are essentially for people that should buy a mini-van however won't buy one, and their off-road capability is marginally better than a mini-van. i've seen a GC's clutch packs over heat in 3" at the bottom of a slightly slick hill and strand the driver, while a Jeep Cherokee, never had a single issue.
Yeah only toyota's can be lifted lmao
Awesome video as always Roman & Nate! When it comes to off roading , Jeep is always the way to go!!!
... vs 4-Runner ...... OH WAIT, that would be unfair
vs. the 4 Runner TRD Pro....... lol
I agree the 4Runner would smoke all of them
Yea but then the grand Cherokee trail hawk came to put the 4Runner in its place.
I like 4runner
Lmao vs wrangler rubicon, oops that wouldn’t be fair
Love that "Cherolet" Equinox! lol Always enjoy the vids and reviews!
I actually watched this hoping the Chevy would get stuck. Anyone silly enough to off road in a Exquinox deserves to get stuck!!! From a car enthusiasts stand point this is a pointless comparison anyone who knows a half wit about cars knows the Grand Cherokee wins this easily. A Grand Cherokee 4x4 is not a cross over not sure why they would downgrade A TRUE SUV and call it such a thing. GC competes with Range Rover and Land Rover not these throw away get stuck in snow mobile likes of Explorers and *lol* a Equinox.
They call it a crossover because it's a unibody.
Grand Cherokee's have always been unibody.
calathan a crossover is a unibodied structure.
uneedmorepeople that's why they call it a mashup and the equinox and jeep are in the same class
So by that classification an old jeep Cherokee XJ is a crossover? I don't consider a grand Cherokee or the old cherokee to be crossovers just because they have a unibody even if they fit in by definition, they are clearly not in the same class as other crossovers that are essentially stationwagons.
In the past I had bad experience with Chrysler, Manley electrical so I've been sticking to Ford. Ever since Mercedes pretty much took over Chrysler they have done a 180. I bought a jeep grand cherokee 5.7 Hemi and I Love it. Could use a little more power, but I can take care of that with some bolt on's and a tune
The Equinox is not an off road type of vehicle. It's for going to the grocery store or taking your dumb as kids to soccer!
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dumbass kids? i hope you don't have any kids.
Now i'm not biased towards any of these but I will not be seen in that Chevy. I've seen so many broke down and they are still a new car. It's crazy.
The Ford Explorer is considered a midsize SUV, and even competes with full size Suv's and body on frame SUV's. The Equinox ia a compact crossover and competes with COMPACT cars. How is this comparison relevant these cars are DIFFERENT sizes... And don't even get me started with the JEEP. Like where is Emmy? These old fart car reviewers are not good people, they have stalked me and raped me. This video DOES NOT make me moist and i am positive my breast emplants, which i cut out of inside me are in the BACK SEAT of the Ford Explorer. He didnt even talk about the cargo capacity. I am DONE.
for some reason i used to hate your reviews, now im subscribed! jeep is definitely the best
you need to let the terrain management system on the explorer kick in. You gave up on it too soon. I used mine and works way better than what you guys just tested.
does it bottom out at all?.. im in between on a Explorer and the grand cherokee...
So far I haven't bottomed out. But it really depends how much off roading you do. I was exactly like you. Torn between those two. But the only deciding factor was the third row. Man it comes in handy. But offroading definitely the jeep
My family owned a 2014 Explorer. And she was a beaut.
Saying that grand Cherokee is a crossover and always has been is completely wrong. A crossover is a car platform with an suv body. I don't think any cars built in the early 90s to 2004 by Chrysler had front and rear solid axles.. Being of unibody construction does not in any way make it a crossover..
Tyler Luckenbill thank you, my thoughts exactly. By their definition the XJ would be a crossover too, no way in hell the old cherokee and GC is a crossover.
great trail. it gets really rough the higher up you go but amazing view of boulder and Denver up there!
3 different vehicles the jeep has heritage and is made for off roading I'm a ford guy and I actually love the new explorer the 16 and up but I wouldn't dare try to take it off road it's a family hauler with a neat terrain management that makes it semi capable but it's just for snow or maybe a dirt road
I think I am going to subscribe just because of all the negativity and hate! I think we are seeing a lot of real off-road aficionados commenting on something that is not necessarily a joke video but a comparison of bad crossovers. There is an unfortunate understanding from the masses that crossovers are off-road ready when in truth they are really the new "definition" of station wagon.
I have a Dodge Journey that is "capable" of this but really isnt.
I was lookin into getting a Jeep. But today I ended up buying a 2014 Chevy equinox and so far I’m loving it. I love the way it drives, its spacious and WAY BETTER than my 04 Chevy Malibu so I’m VERY VERY content with it.
I actually just bought a 15 equinox last week after my 04 ram started costing too much money. I knew it wasn't really for off roading but was a little more capable than a fwd. One thing I see from these old videos is that you dont say which engine or anything like you do now.
Sorry to spoil your clever comment but when we get the car from the manufacturer we have to sign a loan/rental agreement.
Would love to take my stock Liberty Renegade on this trail.
They put the Explorer in the wrong mode. They put the Explorer into mud and rut mode which is for when you need to spin the wheels going through mud puddles. Snow gravel grass mode optimizes traction control for slippery surfaces like dirt gravel etc
Not a bad video but the visuals I found pretty lacking. 4:32 uses the same shot for the 3rd time, while not showing us what obstacle the guys were actually having trouble with.
Thanks for the kind comments. We really appreciate the words of support. BTW: Tomorrow we'll post a true TFLcar Mashup. We're going back to our roots and comparing two very different cars just for the fun of it. We're Mashing up the new Fiat 500 Turbo against the Honda Crosstour in a 0-60 MPH battle of big vs tiny. Please stay tuned for that video tomorrow. Thanks for watching!
I love all fords, and my parents own a very nice Explorer, but I like the look of the Grand Cherokee too.
Thank you for the videos, I've seen a few of them now. Do you know of any good off road spots in MA?
At least Jeep still kept it's heritage of real offroading and added an air suspension. Jeep shows you that you don't need to completley sacrafice anything to get better mileage, nice ride and handling.
If the new Explorer had a better 4wd system with an air suspension it would be much better.... I will get a Jeep when I have the money,
LOL that Toyota Tacoma was like yo, get out of my way!
Would've been a more fair competition with a regular Grand Cherokee, but Jeep still would've won by a mile.
I will take the Explorer. Own 2014 Limited and live in WV. Auto tech here and there is a Jeep in the shop almost everyday. Independent shop.
is this off road course a road that can bring you somewhere? or it is purely for people to test out their off road cars?
I am glad they pointed out just how VASTLY different these three vehicles are. The Traverse would've been a better comparison for the Explorer. And let me guess, everyone with their head a respectable distance away from their fecal matter knew the Jeep was going to destroy the other two systems in this comparison. These guys are fun though.
In this lineup definitely, when GM did away with the body-on-frame trailblazer they basically said screw the off-road market. In all honesty. The Tahoe can be decent if you want to configure it for off road but it's a giant vechile. The suburban even larger.
The old school trailblazer wasn't bad but had a fairly weak transmission.
The equinox, this was done during the last little bit of it having a third row, and it was always intended as a station wagon that looked tougher than it was and had all-wheel drive to keep you from getting stuck in the snow on the way to work, and mud at rainy youth soccer games.
we have a mountaineer and i agree with you with this new body style hate the new EPA regulations that all suv's have to have atleast 30 mpg city now. sucks. sorry for your loss with your explorer i love explorers
88? Nice! I love old 4 runners. I would love to have an old one to take wheeling, I've seen some vids, those things can take a beating!
Cheers to the safety russian in the backround! ✌ "Давай Давай!! Братишка". ThaGVPSon, that commented below me is right, they are city slickers!
I SOO agree! i have 02 sport myself but the new 2013 model is officially a "soccer mom" SUV now.....tisk tisk
with these tires and rims all doing great......