Drawabox Lesson 1, Exercise 1: Superimposed Lines
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- This video is accompanying material for the text available here: drawabox.com/lesson/1/superim...
As promised, the link to the video of ScyllaStew working through this exercise: • Drawabox Lesson 1, Exe...
This is the first of many exercises you will be completing throughout Lesson 1. This one in particular focuses on teaching students to prioritize flow and the confidence of a stroke above its accuracy.
Here's a hint: it's not accuracy.
You can find the free lessons at drawabox.com - if you're new to Drawabox altogether, you can start over at drawabox.com/lesson/0
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To anyone that is doing this right now I got one tip from years ago. Put the tip down where you want to start at, then move your eyes to where you want to end at and then draw your line. I personally find it very effective in drawing the end point of a line
Hand eye coordination
yo this works hella good. all of my osu training isnt wasted after all
@@tongs1073 i was thinking the exact same thing wtf, all of those stream maps mean something now (:
@@PebblepantsTV Mouse player here, guess I wasted my time lol :(
Damn dude, I literally just tried it and Holy shit the difference between the others I did compared to the one I did by looking is insane
You know what? I always just assumed that my form and accuracy were way off when drawing lines. Not based on any examples, I just assumed this because I never did any practicing like this. When I attempted this lesson I found myself actually incredibly accurate... well, moreso than I thought I would be. Thank you, now I can't use this excuse as to why my art looks sloppy! /JK
Hahahaha- I suppose there are downsides to learning, then!
Psh drawings lines straight will be easy
*After doing the exercise*
**Confused angry screech**
mood :
It helps when you can find an angle you can naturally and easily draw a straight line. I don't know if its the same for everyone. For me, I have always been able to draw very good lines if I am pulling the pencil towards me or towards my left hand in a diagonal direction. When you start understanding what drawing a straight line feels like it is easier to translate it to other angles and directions.
I love the representation of "ghosting" in your comic as some sort of ultra-precise samurai technique. It got rid of any reservations I might have had about the planning be boring and actually has me hyped...even just for drawing lines!
I felt the same hahaha
It's more like samurai completely missing the leaf, but confidently.
Just finished this tonight...didn't turn out as bad as I thought it would! I have to say drawing from my shoulder does feel weird though! I tried to draw more tonight but I'm super out of practice haha
"It should be straight forward" I see what you did there.
Just wanted to let you know the description is missing link to ScyllaStew, as promised in the video :)
Woops! Thanks for calling that out, should be fixed now.
I started Lesson 1 today using a Roller Tip pen 0.5mm with Liquid Ink. At first, when I saw the recommendation to use an ink pen, I thought it was overkill. I've been training myself to draw confident lines with pencils, and I didn't think I would feel any different with an ink pen. I was wrong. When I drew the first superimposed line, which looked like it wasn't connecting, I wanted to immediately undo it. It made me pause and draw more carefully.
This is not the ideal ink pen, and I hope to get the correct one, but I am fully onboard with why we use an ink pen.
There is a permanence to each line, so we have to be deliberate.
I want to get good at art so I can design characters for this game I have an idea for. I've never been very great at art and knew I needed to do more than simply practise drawing other characters from references, so I'm really glad I found this course as it's shown what I can actually do and what I need to improve upon.
I was immediately fraying at the starting end when I started to practise, but when you explained it like "line up where you are starting from", it was like a lightbulb went on in my head. thanks so much for this course!
Thanks for doing these! Even the lesson 0 was super useful, can't wait to see what's in the future.
I think this new version of the video is much better, thanks for updating
Awesome, thanks for the update
Thank you SO MUCH for all you do. You are amazing. Best wishes. ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you so much for making this course and the effort you’ve put into each video; everything is really well explained and the visual demos are very clear. Im really looking forward to following along! ❤
Thank you for the free drawing course. It really helped me put the thinking part into my drawing process.
What is your recommendation for people that have completed lessons and challenges that want to progress further ? My goal is conceptual design.
Honestly, right now I don't have a whole lot thought out on that topic. I do eventually want to either write an article or create a video on that topic, but it'll require some consideration. The biggest thing I can suggest right now is to try to work on your own projects, that work towards the goals you have for yourself. For example, concept design is a pretty broad subject. Try and think about what kinds of projects you'd like to work on, and then try and set out similar projects for yourself now (though perhaps in more limited scope).
Doing this will help reveal the areas where you need additional training, and will help direct what classes/courses you may wish to take, or what kinds of tutorials you may want to follow.
@@Uncomfortable Sounds good. Thanks for the advice.
Thank u so much. today is my second day of drawing and I already feel more confident putting lines. moving to next exercise!
Thank you for providing such great content.
Unexpected perk: I finally understand how to do winged eyeliner
Thanks man for the new video 10 minutes is better to follow good job
I want to learn perspective sketching,drawbox is helping me a lot 👍 sometimes i got frustrated too but whatever I badly want to learn to draw
doing this right now after leaving behind art and creating art for many years (due to a lot of personal reasons, some having to do with being afraid of drawing again) and I gotta say I'm surprised at how confident I am when moving my shoulder! I suppose it's because back in high school we did a lot of large scale projects for huge events, so I somehow got used to sketching and painting with my shoulder. i also studied at a chinese school so we had calligraphy classes (you have to move with your shoulder for the bigger strokes ofc if you wanted a chance at creating something halfway decent). but yeah, sometimes posture helps immensely and back in high school, our chinese teachers told us to STAY. RELAXED. and to add RHYTHM to disciplined strokes. if you're too stiff you get janky, inaccurate lines and you get tired a lot quicker.
i could also suggest rolling your shoulder or doing fun little waves with your arms. get acquainted with your body however you can! even if it looks ridiculous! I'm assuming we're all doing this for ourselves anyway, so why not let loose. idk if this is gonna work for everyone, but if you're the type to take things a little too seriously when doing art, then i hope this helps.
Returning to drawabox after a previous attempt and I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised at how easily I can make lines from my shoulder. Last time I remember it being so foreign to me, but this time I hardly had to think about it
I really do like your vibe, you go into detail and are very patient with your words
Thank you for the kind words! I'm glad my approach is having a positive impact. Best of luck as you work through the lessons.
The problem I found was that after drawing a couple of lines it becomes hard to spot the original straight line, then it gets hard to assess accuracy. I know this exercise is about confidence and technique rather than accuracy, but it would be nice to see if accuracy improves over time. I'll stick to the course methodology but in the future I might try using lined paper and drawing one line per line at the various lengths, rather than going over the top of the same lines 8x
Perhaps drawing the guideline with a red pen?
i am having the same issue, so i tried to keep my superimposed lines a little shorter than the original. it did not help lol
Our overlord once again blesses us
Amazing. I love you.
im pretty good at drawing straigt lines because in school i was always to lazy to use a ruler :)
Ahhaha! I loved the ending. It really made me see that by the end of the day we are all still human, and even masters can make mistakes. :p
doing the exercise I realized that the longer the line was the more it tended to have a parabolic trajectory, then I realized that, yes I was making the movement with my shoulder, but it was not very wide. After that I was able to make the lines much straighter.
Hello I start today and Iam sure this will make me better thanks a lot
Great practice exercise
Anyone else shocked at how challenging this actually is?
i recommend a 1.5 cm separation between lines. i mess up by puting the guide lines too close
This exercise really wears on my micron's felt tip. I swear it causes the felt to fray when drawn repeatedly overtop the ink.
Make sure you're not pressing too hard when drawing with your pens. It's easy to damage a fineliner's nib, and microns are especially fragile.
When you draw in a very cold room so you keep shaking
actually your hand can't stay still like a stone, it's normal if your hand is shaky
Thank for you lesson is important draw with elbow...
I don't know if anyone already suggested this and it may be obvious to most, , but if you are a Leftie, like me, you might find it easier and smoother to pull the pen , rather than pushing it across the paper. In otherwords, draw the lines from right to left.
Working muscles I had no idea were involved with drawing
I'm doing this exercise
Something I found that made it easier to see the line I'm following was to draw right to left (right handed) so my hand does get in the way of my view. Not sure if this is allowed but I did one sheet going right to left and another going left to right, just to get use to drawing both directions.
While you are of course welcome to draw in whichever direction is most comfortable for you, keep in mind that the focus of this exercise is on executing marks with confidence, and *not* giving our brains/eyes the chance to try and steer the stroke. The fact that you can't follow the line as you're drawing it isn't actually a problem (although it takes a bit of getting used to). It would only be a problem if the intent was to have the student steer their stroke as they draw, but this is what leads to wobbly/hesitant linework.
@Uncomfortable Thanks, I'll try carrying less about following the line, but I have the problem of my lines going at angles where they cross other lines and just look all over the place if I don't follow it a little. Is there anyway to fix this? 😵
@@SamDragontear Practice. Everything we're doing here is just an exercise, so those exercises aren't going to be executed perfectly. You'll make mistakes, you'll identify those mistakes, and you'll do better next time. Sometimes we need more experience with a given task in order to build up the skills they require, and sometimes we just need to give those tasks more time to think through all the things they involve. By making mistakes, we can identify the latter, but there will always be some things that simply require more practice to improve upon.
As I looked down at my paper full of frying 😂
Dont know if someone pointed this out but try to keep your strokes light because if you push hard enough when doing your lines you'll make a valley that cheats you out of your practice. If I notice it gets increasingly easy to get from point A to point B I just start a new line to keep it fresh and flat.
I actually do talk about this in the video, around 8:00. It's not a problem for the purposes of this exercise.
Is anyone left handed here? When doing the lines are you supposed to go over the line made with the ruler from right to left or left to right?
In the video he goes from left to right following the back side of his right hand.On the DAB website it mentions "As you draw your superimposed strokes, you will notice that you're not going to be able to see where your pen is drawing, because your hand will be blocking it. This will make it particularly difficult to guide the stroke as you go."
Since i'm left handed my hand doesn't block my view if i'm going in the same direction as shown in the video. Or am I supposed to go from right to left in the direction of the backside of my lefthand so that I cant see the line?
Draw in whichever direction feels most comfortable for your arm. I'd *expect* for that to be drawing from right to left (the inverse of a right handed person), but I don't really know for sure. Regardless, which direction you draw in doesn't really matter, as long as it is one that is comfortable and allows you to engage your whole arm from the shoulder. There are some motions that simply won't be comfortable - like drawing directly away from your body - but there is certainly some room for personal preference here.
Thanks
I've been getting notifications about new videos of lesson 1 topics and now that I just finished the last exercise for lesson 1 before heading to the 250 boxes challenge, I decided to check the latest video out.
And I seeeee. You're doing them live this time with an actual pen. Coooool. I'm pretty sure this takes much effort as well just like the digitally made ones. Much respect. I appreciate it.
Will you be doing this for the rest of the video lessons like let's say until lesson 2? Or will only selected videos have an updated video done like this?
And oh. Did you edit anything from the text material?
@@yunielelis My plan is to update all the video content. Not all of it will be done traditionally, but I've kind of caved and accepted that it is somewhat more helpful to see me physically drawing for these basics. The further into the course we go, the more we'll get back into digital demos - but those will be new as well.
I am updating text content where it's necessary. I rewrote significant parts of the "Using your Arm" and "Principles of Markmaking" pages for instance, although I found that the written material for this exercise was fairly adequate, so I didn't alter it much.
Ultimately this is going to be a process that is spread over a great deal of time. I expect it to take many months, but my goal is to revise the whole course.
@@Uncomfortable That sounds great. A big thank you for creating all these videos. It would surely take time but I wish you all the best if this is what you really want to do. Good luck!!!
I have decided to start your course. And immediately a question. I'm left handed. Do I need to draw the line like you - left to right or right to left? Thank you so much for your hard work!!!
Throughout the course when providing instructions, I try to avoid phrasing things in terms of explicit directions (left/right) for just that reason. Instead I focus instead on what is most comfortable for your arm. As a right handed person, I find drawing away and to the right most comfortable, whereas a left handed person might find drawing away and to the left most comfortable.
hello mr irshad (sorry if i got your name wrong) so i just finished elipses and i want to get on with boxes and finish lesson 1 will the rest of lesson 1 updated material come soon or should i just use the older material and move on?
Ultimately you are better off continuing forward with the material that is available. I cannot commit to any particular timeline and have many things to balance simultaneously, so while I am continually moving forward on recording new content and updating things, waiting for it would be a waste of time - especially considering that the changes are primarily in how the material is presented, rather than *what* is presented. You'll still learn the same things, and when the newer stuff comes out, you'll be able to go back and watch it just to see if it clarifies anything further for you.
Hi! thanks for the course
It depends on whether or not it is distracting. For some students, any noise is distracting and makes it harder to focus on what they're doing. For others, music may actually help one maintain focus. That said, all music is not equal - some students may find instrumental music helps them focus, but music with lyrics distracts them, or music they *really* enjoy might be distracting while music that isn't as interesting to them may not be. It really comes down to how the particular music in question affects the way you work.
@@Uncomfortable i understand, thanks you!
How often should I be doing these lessons? 1 lesson a day, 1 exercise a day? or what do you recommend?
I recommend that you start over at Lesson 0. The videos there explain how this course should be approached. drawabox.com/lesson/0
asdfghljk; it's just lesson one and I already want to cry. Both my superimposed lines pages ended up turning into an undifferentiated mush of lines by the end. Life is pain =D
Would it be a good idea to use a metronome, with the mindset that you must make a line at the BPM, no matter the line?
The focus being on rhythm and execution rather than perfection may help force the "flow" mindset. Idk.
It's definitely an interesting thought, but I'm a bit reticent to add anything that takes the sense of agency and control away from the student. Ultimately I want them to take ownership of their choices, and of their actions, and while giving that up to a metronome as you stated may have a positive impact on one's ability to commit to a confident stroke, it may get in the way of some of the other larger themes of the course.
Definitely something that is worthy of more consideration and thought though.
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Im doing those first exercises but drawing with shoulder bothers me. I know it should be trained to a degree, but if i want to draw using wrist/elbow in future mostly, i should be training them as well, at least in same amount as shoulder ? I guess till the end of the course i have to focus on shoulder, then move wrist
The reason we focus on the shoulder is precisely because drawing from the shoulder is awkward and unfamiliar. The shoulder and wrist don't suffer from this - so they don't really need nearly as much attention. You won't find that you need to specifically focus on the wrist and elbow, if you've focused on using your shoulder throughout the course.
I've gone through this exercise and feel uncertain as where to go. I'm left handed and I feel that because I've approached this task left to right that I have somehow , subconsciously corrected my trajectory. All my lines have come out quite wobbly, but I feel that this was tackled at a reasonable pace so as to not overthink things. Should I try this so I can't see the endpoint as to counteract this possible overcorrection?
If you're left handed, then I'd imagine you'd be reversing the drawing direction - going from right to left. Regardless, don't leave these things to your subconscious - if your lines came out wobbly, it's because you made a conscious choice to draw more hesitantly, rather than letting your arm move naturally (regardless of how that would impact your accuracy). Take the reins, and make those choices yourself instead of leaving them up to your subconscious.
@@Uncomfortable Thanks for the feedback, great help :)
Thank you for asking about this! I haven't started the exercise yet, but was wondering about how being left handed would affect how I should do this!
I'm also a left-handed Shawn. I drew them right to left!
Would you recommend that one tackles these with a pen tablet, or is it imperative that we stick to pen and paper?
It's way cheaper pen & papper than pen tablet and you won't "use" your pen tablet
How did you do the first curved line?
So as I understand all lines go from right to left (for right hands). What about practicing as well from left to right for right hands, and right to left for lefts?
While there's value in practicing that eventually (same as practicing to draw in any and all orientations), it's a distraction right now since we're trying to move onto more important concepts. I explain this here: drawabox.com/lesson/1/9/betteruse
I rushed my way to lesson 3 and hit a wall. Trying my best to not feel frustrated and quit, but I tried this exercise (digitally) and I just couldn't get it right...
Can I do these exercises on lined notebook paper? My usual sketchbook is really small and I want a lot of space.
You are honestly much better off using regular printer paper. It's cheap, it works well with pens, and it saves you from getting too precious as one might when working in a sketchbook. As for lined paper, I wouldn't recommend it for this course, or for drawing in general.
What is the name of this ruler that you are using in this video? I can't find it on Amazon (I am struggling to draw the rectangles for the boxes exercise (last exercises of lesson 1) on a regular ruler )
While I'm pretty sure I bought it at a local art supply store, searching "grid ruler" on amazon turned up this: www.amazon.com/Westcott-12-Inch-Beveled-Transparent-B-70/dp/B001THRMGS/
@@Uncomfortable thank you 🙏🏻
I don't use pens I use mechanical pencils do we grip it like the pens? And i was just making chicken strokes now i know and will use this exercise. Thanks for making this course👌
This section/video: drawabox.com/lesson/1/2/grip goes over what kind of grip to use and why.
I have ADD let’s see how this goes without addraal
I am having a lot of trouble identifying the order of watching lessons/doing exercises. Multiple videos are named Lesson 1 or 2 (for example, there are so far 5 Videos named Lesson 0 ) , with various "lessons" or "exercises." What is the Linear way to follow them in order? I dont want to do the homework to find I missed or skipped some important lesson or exercise to build upon....
You should be going through the lessons on drawabox.com, starting from Lesson 0 (drawabox.com/lesson/0 ). The videos will come up in order as you progress through the material there, rather than trying to navigate through them on TH-cam.
3:04 Are the curves done with the wrist? I'm trying to go back to the art fundamentals, so I was wondering! I also find it difficult to tell the difference between using my elbow and using my shoulder.
All of the marks throughout this lesson are drawn from the shoulder, regardless of their size.
@@Uncomfortable Thanks! I feel this will really help me. I was also wondering when it is acceptable to use your wrist. Is it better for smaller more close up details?
@@crustaceanPeanutonly use them outside of this lesson
Read Lesson 1: Lines, Ellipses and Boxes
Lines: Using Your Arm
for more details
I have a question,I do not know,if I do rotate the paper to a comfortable Angle, it is easy to make a mark.But if I do not,some angle are really diffcult.should I need to practise the different angle?I am really in a mass
This is something we address in the exercise immediately after this, specifically in this section: drawabox.com/lesson/1/10/betteruse . Basically, right now it is not a great use of your time to worry about being able to execute marks at every angle. That'll come, partially as a natural aspect of the practice we do throughout the course, and partially from some more targeted practicing of specifically drawing marks at different angles, but right now is not the time for that. There are better ways you can use your time, so in this course we prioritize other things.
I don't remember you saying this or maybe you don't care but I feel I have to ask anyways: Is this done on both side of the homework? I've been doing it this way for the first exercise
Generally if the ink from the other side of the page doesn't show through, then it's fine to use both sides. If however it does show through, I wouldn't recommend using the other side, as the little visible marks will make it a lot easier for us to get sloppy, rush through aspects of the work, etc. and generally just not do our best. It's similar to why I don't recommend working on lined paper - having the marks there already can impact how we subconsciously approach the work.
I'm wondering, why do you draw from left to right? If you draw with your right hand, from right to left, you can see the trajectory, otherwise there is always a part missing because your hand is in front of it.
Aside from drawing from left to right generally feeling more natural and comfortable to my arm, it's worth mentioning that I don't steer my line with my eyes (and I actively avoid doing so in order to maintain a confident stroke) - so whether or not I can see where my pen is going isn't actually that relevant. I rely on my muscle memory, and I trust my arm to go where it needs to, rather than attempting to watch where it's going and course-correct along the way. This would actually result in a wobblier, more hesitant line, which is precisely what this exercise is pushing us away from.
@@Uncomfortable Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I understand the part of not trying to correct, but don't you need to see the intended end point?
@@anoukadel6397 Think about it this way - the only benefit seeing the endpoint would give me is the ability to correct my trajectory if I'm off target. But that in itself is something I want to avoid - I want to maintain the same consistent straight trajectory I set off with, avoiding any course-corrections or wobbling along the way, *even* if it means missing the intended endpoint. The exercise is about maintaining confidence in the stroke, not its accuracy. Prior to executing the mark, I know which direction the end point is in - so I aim for it, and once I start drawing, I trust in what my arm is doing.
Can I draw on both sides of a paper sheet? Or ghosting will get in a way?
Generally we only use one side because when the ink is visible through from one side to the other, it can impact how we approach the work similarly to why we avoid lined paper. That said, if your paper is thick enough not to be visible through the other side, you can use both sides. Just keep in mind that the homework assignments assume 1 side per page, rather than both.
just wanna know
are you planning to add captions to these videos?
TH-cam generally adds its automatically generated captions on its own. Not sure why it didn't here - I'll look into it.
There's one now
Finna start rn 11/14/22 😈
"Don't grind."
Master... I've performed for you ten thousand lines... *bows and hands you a stack of papers*
IIRC you aren't supposed to redo the exercises until they come out "perfect" but I forget where it's written on the site
That would be from Lesson 0, Page 3.
Can i use a gel pen for this? I don't think there's any fineliners near my house
Ballpoint/gel pens/etc. are okay in a pinch, but only through Lesson 1 and the box challenge. Lesson 2 onward should be done with a fineliner, though this does mean you have a fair bit of time to get your hands on some.
From my experience I got another tip to practice in better way . Put the first dot then ghost the line in whatever the direction you wanted then mark the second dot . Try to ghost the lines this way may be this will help you more than while actually drawing the line after ghosting the line
This isn't the ghosted lines video
Just a question, is it ok to alternate directions? I'm left handed and it feels easier to start at a point and move my arm left and a bit awkward to move it to the right.
Focus on drawing the lines from a single orientation for now. We expand on this in the ghosted lines exercise, and discuss further why we're only worrying about the execution in a single orientation. Now, to be clear - the orientation you choose should be the one that feels most comfortable for you. So as long as the instructions do not tell you specifically to draw from left to right, then you'd pick whichever direction works best for you.
@@Uncomfortable Thank you!
Are you updating the whole series?
Yup, slowly but steadily, working my way up from Lesson 1.
How do you hold the pen? Is there a video on the proper way? It looks almost totally vertical.
Make sure that you're following through the material on the website - not just jumping through the videos on TH-cam. You'll find the answer to your question here: drawabox.com/lesson/1/2/grip
@@Uncomfortable Thank you so much for your reply and making all these incredibly good lessons! I will read all the content as well for now on.
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as a leftie, am i supposed to make the stroke right to left as to cover it with my hand?
Generally those who are left handed will find drawing up and to the left more comfortable, though we don't actually tell students which specific direction to draw, but rather to draw in whichever direction is most physically comfortable. As for having your hand cover the line, that's also something that happens in the way I demonstrate in the video. It's normal, and it isn't really a concern, since you're not meant to be steering the stroke with your eye, but rather letting your arm maintain a consistent trajectory.
Hello is it alright if I post myself drawing these on TH-cam and TikTok?
I find that posting content makes me feel more responsible
Certainly!
@Uncomfortable thank you very much 😁
My arm dies when doing these lines, if I go too slow it becomes a wobbly course-correcting mess. Go too fast and it becomes to the most frayed thing that has ever existed, only connecting at the starting point of the guide line
As explained in this video, your second option there (most frayed thing that has ever existed, only connecting at the starting point of the guide line) sounds like it's what we're after. Sure, more practice will tighten things up, but slowing down is not the solution.
That said, taking breaks when your arm gets tired, is also important. When you're first getting used to drawing from your shoulder, that's going to be pretty often, and that's normal.
@@Uncomfortable Good to know, thanks!
Revisiting this exercise. Noticing that my lines wobble and know its because Im too focused on accuracy but Im really not understanding how not to?😅
We focus on accuracy because we *choose* to, as a result of worrying about making mistakes and having the line fly off in some random direction. You avoid this by *choosing* not to, by choosing to draw with confidence despite your fear of the line being incorrect. This comic goes into it a little further: drawabox.com/comic/1
@@Uncomfortable thanks
Attempt number 2 at this course. 🤕
What pen are you using?
The pen I'm using there is one we used to import and sell through the Drawabox website. Currently we're putting that on hold though, as we invest in making our own reusable/refillable pens. These are comparable to Staedtler Pigment Liners though, so if you're looking for similar performance, that's where I'd go. Staedtlier Pigment Liners are also what I used when I was learning.
I'm left handed, should I draw them from right to left?
Draw them in whatever angle feels most comfortable to you. Doesn't matter which.
I have a question I recently bought your pens from your website but I cant seem to make any of the long strokes in the exercise without my pens drying up right away. All my pens have this problem so I think it has something to do with me can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong
That's worrying. So I have three thoughts right off the bat - firstly, are you holding them at a low angle, or a fairly high angle? secondly, what kind of paper are you drawing on? The rougher stuff is meant for charcoal and other dry media, and it has a lot of tooth to absorb pigment. As such, it'll drink up the ink from your pens, while seeming to make really crappy lines. And thirdly, you haven't been storing the pens tip-up, right? Pens should generally be stored horizontally, or tip-down (but horizontally is generally preferred).
Can you send a picture of the lines your pens are drawing to pens@drawabox.com? We'll be able to take a closer look and help you out more easily there.
@@Uncomfortable thanks for responding. I am using regular printer paper for what I’m drawing on the pens of have been on my desk for a little bit but mainly still in package I tested 2 of them both were dry mainly when doing the longest lines of the first homework assignment. I hold the pen more of a top down angle. I tried applying more and less pressure to see if I was pressing to hard or to soft but I got the same results for both mainly. I plan on testing the rest of the pens tomorrow and I will report back
@@sketchtoons9587 We'll be looking forward to your email.
@@Uncomfortable I sent the email thanks for understanding and helping
@@Uncomfortable so I revived a refund but I’m planning on buying the pens again anyway so yea thanks for your help
Is it okay to do these lessons on a tablet ? I find it tedious to work with paper
Nevvermind i just saw another one of your thumbnails
@@abasket9536 Hah- I imagine it was for the newest video (th-cam.com/video/Egxv9dycg5Q/w-d-xo.html ) so I'm glad you found it!
Must I really need a liner or a ballpoint pt. I only have a pencil and some random pen that isn't ball point nor a liner
This page from Lesson 0 explains the reasoning behind why we recommend the use of certain tools over others: drawabox.com/lesson/0/4 . Go through it so you understand, and then as long as you're not planning to submit for (paid) official critique, no one's gonna force you. The resource is available for free, so it's up to you how you choose to use it.
@@Uncomfortablehey I didn't know u still reply thanks you are right. Maybe I wasn't focusing properly in lesson 0.ill just use a pencil I don't an to submit anything
sir, I don't have a fine pen. I can't buy one. because I m from Myanmar. So can I use a ball pen and pencil?
The tool recommendations are only required for those submitting their work for paid/official critique. Others can decide for themselves, although any kind of pen would be preferable to a pencil. That said, given that you're asking this question, you may not have gone through Lesson 0 yet, as this is explained in its last page. Please be sure to do so, you'll find it here: drawabox.com/lesson/0
@@Uncomfortable thank
I learned this from Norm Schureman at Art Center. RIP, Norm.
I never did have the pleasure to meet Norm, but I heard a lot about him from Peter Han. His contributions to art instruction will remain unmatched - I don't think we'll ever be blessed with another like him again.
I am struggling a lot with just drawing lines that are straight. Is it possible to draw with dysgraphia or am I wasting my time?
We do actually have students with dysgraphia. The thing to keep in mind is that what you're focused on is accuracy - getting the mark to fall where you want it to. But making a mark that is straight focuses more on maintaining smooth, consistent flow. That is achieved entirely through the confidence of the stroke. Take a piece of paper and just make a lot of really quick strikes across it, without worrying about where you want that mark to fall, and you'll demonstrate this for yourself.
Accuracy is secondary - we first focus on students letting go of the need to be accurate, so they can execute their marks with confidence (which is the focus of this exercise). Then in the next exercise, we introduce an approach that will help to reinforce that with more control, but the execution of the mark still focuses on confidence. While accuracy will develop over time, with practice and mileage, a smooth stroke is something that is dependent entirely on the approach.
I won't lie and say that those with dysgraphia don't struggle more than others - but it's unlikely to be as relevant to what you're tackling right now as you may be inclined to think. It's just easy that when you have a valid reason to have more difficulty, to then look to it when hitting the usual bumps in the road.
@@Uncomfortable Thank you so much for your advice, I was really doubting myself. I will just keep pushing forwards, and continue with the program. Thank you.
Can i do this with pencils?
I explain why we recommend the use of ink for these lessons in this article: drawabox.com/article/ink
@@Uncomfortable ok, thank you so much
This might be silly but how would respond if a student wanted to skip lesson 4 because of a fear of bugs and creepy crawlies?
Not silly at all, especially if you suffer from arachnophobia or entomophobia. That said, you needn't actually skip it - you can focus on crustaceans instead, and you'll find a couple demos (admittedly some of the better ones, despite not being formal ones) at the top of the informal demos page of lesson 4.
My plan is to do more formal demos using crustaceans but that'll be further in the future, once my overhaul of the demo content gets that far.
@@Uncomfortable I see thank you for the response.
I only have to keep in mind that as a lefty, my lineflow is mirrowed.
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7:08 The inconscious ..? As in the unconscious, or is it a different word? I'm an Aussie, can't tell with the accent!
Looks like I was saying "Being conscious."
I'm trying to draw it straight and i swear I'm using my elbow... sucks my brain is the type that's like "straight lines? nah. make them curvy af."
i feel like i draw too hard and it left a mark on the paper, is it consider cheating to use that mark as a reference for additional lines? lol
That is especially common with ballpoint, as they do generally require more pressure, whereas fineliners require less. In general you will want to get used to easing up on the pressure and loosening your grip on the pen a little bit, but for our purposes in this exercise, that little furrow in your page is not a big deal. It's really not an issue if your pen slips into the groove as you draw, because you're still going to be practicing making confident marks without hesitation, which is exactly what the exercise is about.
the hardest part of this exercise is using my shoulder instead of my elbow