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@@jacobeccles5127yeah that was the ultimate joke good old George played on us. Now he doesn't even need to finish the books and I doubt he wants to. He's always said he doesn't like being rushed and they'll be done when they're done but idk he helped with Elden Ring seems like he has enough time to work on stuff he just gave up on this cuz he saw everyones reaction to the final season. Go back and read his tweets the days the last episodes were airing. Being super passive aggressive and recommending ppl watch other shows WHILE the show he's helped make is literally debuting it's last season and episodes
Wow, having never read the books I never knew what a superpower the Targaryans were. They always just seemed to be some ancient house that was never fully explained. Dany's drive to sit on the throne makes so much more sense now. Thank you for this!
The Aemon we know was shaped by his years at the night watch and as a maester seperated from the politics of the 7 kingdoms. He has no training in battle or rulership. He wouldn’t even lived as long due to the stress of ruling. I’m not saying he’d be a bad king but he alone could not have stopped the fall of the Targaryen dynasty.
@@dingo1547 What do you mean "He wouldn't even lived as long due to the stress" no ruler in the history of the Iron Throne died due to stress, maybe you have played too much ck2, also he may have had a decent chance at being a good ruler due to his training as a maester. He could have stopped Robert's Rebellion if he hadn't taken the Black as he would have been King, and his brother Aegon V wouldn't have been king which means Jaehaerys II wouldn't have been king which means Aerys II (The Mad King, the King who caused Robert's Rebellion) wouldn't have been king, so yes, he could have kept the Targaryens in power the same goes for if Duncan hadn't married Jenny of Oldstones.
@@charlieparsons2406 I think what dingo means is that if aemon hadn't been a maester and took the iron throne, he wouldn't have had the oppurtunity to grow old cuz there would be so many factors to consider. As a maester of the nights watch, he never layed with a woman, never had kids, never drank because he's a maester. If he was king, he would have drank and layed to his heart's extent as all highborn people do. He wouldn't have lived past the age of 60 or 70. And with the rebellions in mind, his life could have been shorter.
They could barely explain Quaithe, Jon & Beric's resurrections or the White Walkers without unraveling every plot laid down since Season 1. Yeah I think I'm okay with "unreviving" Catelyn Stark for sanity sake
@@shreyanshjain4250 Perhaps it would have given Jaime and Brienne something to do that would lead to expanded, more satisfying conclusions to their (and maybe even Catelyn's) arcs. I really don't think it would have been tough to adapt the new characters to TV and then, if it came to it, just come up with endings for them to bring it to all to a conclusion. It's pretty disappointing. Come on, you lay it all out like this and you can connect some dots to point to some endings.
George would never write or greenlight that. The Dawn Age, the Last Long Night, and other obscure mythological events need to remain muddied. It's what adds the mystery to the story. If it was all explained there wouldn't be a wonder factor that the reader / watcher could then fill in on their own. GRRM himself has said it about eastern Essos, Sothoryos, etc. It's to make the world feel larger and to add wonder. However, it would be interesting to see how they'd handle something like the Dawn Age. They'd really need to have a strong story and very good writing as it has events that are the foundation of ASOIAF.
Bro, Essos is so fascinating. Westeros is cool and all, but Essos is just so Bizarre in such a cool way. I hope one of the HBO spinoffs shows more of essos
I really want at the very least, a "spin-off" of sorts centered around the seamingly endless continent of Sothoryos; maybe depictions of settlements trying to inhabit Yeen, or a spin-off mini-series about Asshai and it's wanderers It would be awesome to view this in the perspective of a random Shadowbinder honing his/her skills in magic, avoiding death from the natural elements and hostil surroundings of the area
@@mrhello7611 We also need to see Y Ti empire and their gigantic tower from the age of Long Night and also the gigantic giant that is far bigger than Westerosi giants
Bro that’s exactly how I feel I want to know what’s goin on over there too same thing with the creatures of sothoros or whatever it is It would be nice to also get a show in the great empire and YI-TI They have so much material they can do stuff with We are getting the sea snake 9 voyages so we will definitely see the world I don’t care even if they have to do some animated stuff
William A it. Is all in the show, first there was a book written explaining the history then the show started and then he explained everything that happened in the show. Who said and did what event after event. Watch the show pay attention it is all there.
Not sure if you have heard but one based on the long night is in the works, starts filming June so presumably airs around this time next year. That's only 1 out of at least 3 I believe
George Martin has confirmed that there is already 5 spinoffs in the works, with some of them being prequels, even one dating 5,000 years before the events of GoT.
A well developed story line. A lot of time and effort must have been put into getting this video together. I've just about finished reading A Storm of Swords and am boggled by the sheer length of this epic that is ASoIaF.
@@locke4606 Targaryens are valyrians. They live in Valyria, alongside with other dragonlords families. All of them die after the explosion, less the Targaryens who escape. After that they move on to Dragonstone. They are valirian race...
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There will be at least one spin off. Game of Thrones has made too much money for HBO. You will have stories from this world until they are no longer profitable.
The Long Night is already confirmed. I hope for a Dance of the Dragons, it's just to perfect, it got everything GoT has except the White Walkers but it has more dragons, many more dragons. Otherwise Blackfyre Rebellion would be nice and the Century of Blood in Essos.
I think that is one of the things that would make GRRM the happiest, I have so much respect for him and hope he knows how much his fans (and would've been Tolkien) love him and his work. Just watched an interview on him seeing his home(s) and theatre in Santa Fe, found out he's married, stayed humble, and helped out his community a lot, just seems to have loved the life he's lived. He's happy with what he's put out, and I for one have no animosity towards him for taking his time because it's my favorite series of all time. Sorry to go on such a tangent here but I just haven't had a place to properly comment this anywhere yet lol
@@joeroseri6201 I know what you mean about your last sentence. I talk to unknown people online more than friends IRL about these stuff!😂😂😂 I need friends IRL who are more into GOT!😭😭😭
Tbf, most of the shit prior to 297AC wasn't even described in the five novels either, they were explained in a separate book titles the The World of Ice & Fire.
Unknown The Martell storyline was shiton the show. But in the books shows great promise. I just wish it will not be the samefate as what happened in the show. Dorans revenge must be done!
Zach The Ripper it's possible but it's expensive to make it with the quality of the current version. Star Trek had a lot of episodes and will most likely produce more seasons in the future.
Couple of bones to pick, but it's very well done. The biggest issue I have is the insinuation that Aegon III tried to keep dragons going but that he simply failed. He had a deep distrust and dislike of dragons due to his childhood.
Of course he did considering he watched his mother being eaten alive. However in the books he did try to revive the dragons. He understood that even tho he hated dragons and was extremely terrified of them. Dragons were the key to house Targaryen’s image and power. The Targaryen’s Downfall began to slowly happen without their dragons.
When people moan about Martin not coming out with the latest book I am certain they have only followed the TV version which I really love but I started reading these books in the early days and have been incredibly impressed that one man could possibly have just thought all of this up on his own. It is phenomenal and you can see why even a brief run on TV would not be able to explain all of the plots and sub plots and history. This is why they have focused on a few characters who aren't even that signifiant to the overall plot and who are fan favourites (even as we love to hate them). George RR Martin has a mind that is almost impossible to comprehend. When he says he writes without a script I believe him but also admire that anyone could accomplish what he has. When I first learned that they were coming out with the show on HBO I couldn't imagine where they would even begin. I think in all we have had the pleasure of watching the show and when people get tired there are things like this. The links are great as well. This presentation is excellent and I will be recommending it to friends who are wondering why the next book is taking so long. When we think that Martin is basically bringing this incredible story to a conclusion of sorts (who knows) we have to admire him even more. This would be like saying good bye to characters that have lasted in his mind for decades. For all I care HBO can run this for ten more years and I won't lose interest. I am eager to see what type of spin off they come up with. None are going to ever get this far into it but well done!
Read some of the original drafts for the books, they're so different it's difficult to comprehend they are the same story. You definitely won't think he writes with a script afterwards. In his original draft, Tyrion fell in love with Arya, Jaime killed anyone who opposed him and became king after Joffrey died, Catelyn Stark was killed by an Other, loads of massive differences like that.
“I pray for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R’hollor shows me only Snow.” Yeah okay Jon Snow is the “Prince Who Was Promised” and when George RR Martin finishes his books you’ll know
I really want a prequel series(Dunk and Egg) and I guess HBO would be good but I want it done by professionals not D&D... like can we please not have them involved in anything A Song of ice and fire ever again.
@@ememememem592 absolutely. To rank is achievement GOT was on top of stacked list of outstanding tv programming and I dismiss your denial. Most anticipated every episode. Jaw dropper weekly. Did they though? Hell yeah. So good that they slit their own throats trying to get back to the incomparable opening. What do you expect in life and instead of why? Stop. Living people haven't experienced what you're pretending wasn't at times the greatest thing U ever saw. Ass.
@@kurtiswoods1663 nope. Season 5 was when things were good. After that things got worse to worst and shit. Season 7... could've been better and season 8 was a disappointment. I'm not a professional writer but some things don't sound like they'd make things amazing and jaw dropping of excitement. Nah it seems stupid. Even after rewatching afew things during the scenes. They complete threw out every single bit of information.... literally they wasted all other seasons just to lead to stupid scenes that doesn't make any sense. They should've waited before even doing a show on GoT.... Tolkien's books of lotr was completed and Peter Jackson had plenty of information to go off of. And had support of fans and ppl who knew about it like the actors for Gandalf and Saurman. And acouple others who may have known it.
This was well done and helpful. Thank you for your time and effort to help us understand the history of Ice and Fire. It helped put a lot in proper context and clear up some confusion. You could even break it up into sections and go into more detail in their own videos!
Well, they are the only ancient house to still sit on their castle. Main problem I see with fandom is many people think they gotta look for a hero and in this show there are no heroes, many some heroic moment, but no heroes at all.
Nice job on this. I have listened to the audio books, but the TV show keeps sticking in my head. This concise description of what happened helped me remember the books. Thanks. :)
Wow.... good job. I always knew the book was better than the show but I forgot just how much better it is. I really really wish G.R.R.MARTIN could live along enough to finish it. Such a shame but hopefully there is someone talented enough to take over from him when the time comes.
this makes me want to actually read the books... Edit: Why didn't the show cover all of this... They could've made more episodes and we would've loved it..
Yooooooooo: This is so---- crazy! Thanks CivilizationEx for this post! It definitely is no easy thing to have created this video 🙏 You covered so--- much! My hope is that HBO goes with it and the entire story line...-Much like Disney is running away with the Star Wars thing. HBO could just bounce around different timelines and cover the whole thing. They have content and new series from the Ice & Fire stuff that could last them a century or more. Btw: I'm saying this in 2022, during the "House of the Dragon" (HBO) release
To think the tv show covers just a fraction of the overall timeline. The potential for countless shows that could be made from the ASIOF universe is mind boggling.
PGeraSUX Yeah I know that.😏 I meant that there is so many possible stories over thousands of years that they can’t possibly cover especially when the current show is just within 8 years.
WOW. Great job. I am glad the tv show diluted the history and carcter arcs. It takes for ever to explained to my wife who is who from where. Just imagine, if it was that complicated, lol.
That was awesome and must of taken some time to put together. It's appreciated, I've read all the books up to a dance with dragons, it's been sitting on my shelf for years. so this was a nice refresher before I get into it.
No one ever brings up the fact that the last hero used lady forlorn, a dragonsteel blade to fight the white walkers thousands of years before Valyria is even founded... Dragons had to have existed in Westeros during the time of the long night.
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@@AlexFarnum1 It means Dungeon Master from Dungeons & Dragons. They are the game organizers who create the environment, events, describes monsters, and helps determine outcomes of other players' actions. 🙂
But yeah it's sad after reading the books... I wonder how was their relationship going from knight and his squire to kingsguard and his king, hopefully Martin will write more books about Tales of Dunk and Egg
@@Lancor84 if you think tes lore is uninteresting, you obviously don't know enough. tes has one of the most interesting and unique lores in all of fiction.
@@Lancor84 You forgot too mention the Dawn,Meretic,1,2,3 and 4 era.The rise of the mer the Empires of the Ayleids,Altmer and Bosmer.The Rise and Fall of the Dwemer,How the Chimer became the Dunmer.The conquest of Skyrim by the Atmorans led by Ysgramor with the Snow Elves being genocided by the Atmorans. And bunch of other events.
I would like to point out. 7+ years passed between season 1-8. A takes a month or 2 on average(unless in hurry) to take kings road from king's landing and thats with horse and carriage. So anytime they made that journey or traveled that same length. Any character. A month on average passes. Minus dragon and boat travel. Also raven messages.
You mean if he stuck to tradition then the dance of the dragons and murders of hundreds of thousands wouldnt have occured? See what happens withmotional weak men?!?
cregan stark getting pissed he didnt get to fight so he beheads anyone he thinks ruined his chance to fight then going home is the most stark shit ever and i love it
Not necessarily 2, it could be more. Jus because there are 8 seasons doesn't mean that there will be the same number of books but all I wish for is he finishes the story before he dies.
@@anishkasharan9952 Don't spew you're bullshit without facts, We're only getting Two more books for the main series. The winds of winter and A dream of spring
Ever wonder if wierwoods are kinda like ego from the mcu? Like is bran gonna spread them across all of Westeros again in an attempt to become even more powerful as his one true goal as the 3 eyed raven?
@@spacemonkey1270 Frankly what I mean is that what you said doesn't matter at all because the guy is probably never going to acknowledge what you said at all
The only thing i don't get or i'm confused with is Houses DUrrandon, Lannister, and Gardner already existing. I thought they existed once the Andals migrated to Westeros. This is really confusing cause the FIrst Men blood are only found on Starks not the southerners. Can someone elaborate this cause i am really confused.
Many houses like those you mentioned were originally First Men, but when the Andals invaded they intermarried and mixed together. In the North they did not mix, at least not as much, the First men in the north are basically pure first men, while in the south they are mostly Andals with First Men and Rhoynar mixed in as well.
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Is this where the current books ends as far as time line goes?
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@@jacobeccles5127 hasn’t been another book in nearly 2 decades so yes
@@jacobeccles5127yeah that was the ultimate joke good old George played on us. Now he doesn't even need to finish the books and I doubt he wants to. He's always said he doesn't like being rushed and they'll be done when they're done but idk he helped with Elden Ring seems like he has enough time to work on stuff he just gave up on this cuz he saw everyones reaction to the final season. Go back and read his tweets the days the last episodes were airing. Being super passive aggressive and recommending ppl watch other shows WHILE the show he's helped make is literally debuting it's last season and episodes
To think all of this detail and lore came from one man's imagination is amazing!
Nun special
The lore came from English royal history...
Who has been conjuring this up for 3 decades now. An Incredible achievement but still doable, if you put your mind to it.
@@dhritidutta6231 so henry the 8th rode a dragon
@@firthyfirth9526 Search Empress Matilda and War of Roses...
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Wow, having never read the books I never knew what a superpower the Targaryans were. They always just seemed to be some ancient house that was never fully explained. Dany's drive to sit on the throne makes so much more sense now. Thank you for this!
*Grabs popcorn, starts taking notes*
If only Aemon decided to sit in the throne...
The Aemon we know was shaped by his years at the night watch and as a maester seperated from the politics of the 7 kingdoms. He has no training in battle or rulership. He wouldn’t even lived as long due to the stress of ruling. I’m not saying he’d be a bad king but he alone could not have stopped the fall of the Targaryen dynasty.
@@dingo1547 I'd think it would be an interesting scenario regardless.
@@dingo1547 i thought he was trained in battle, but gave it up
@@dingo1547 What do you mean "He wouldn't even lived as long due to the stress" no ruler in the history of the Iron Throne died due to stress, maybe you have played too much ck2, also he may have had a decent chance at being a good ruler due to his training as a maester. He could have stopped Robert's Rebellion if he hadn't taken the Black as he would have been King, and his brother Aegon V wouldn't have been king which means Jaehaerys II wouldn't have been king which means Aerys II (The Mad King, the King who caused Robert's Rebellion) wouldn't have been king, so yes, he could have kept the Targaryens in power the same goes for if Duncan hadn't married Jenny of Oldstones.
@@charlieparsons2406 I think what dingo means is that if aemon hadn't been a maester and took the iron throne, he wouldn't have had the oppurtunity to grow old cuz there would be so many factors to consider. As a maester of the nights watch, he never layed with a woman, never had kids, never drank because he's a maester. If he was king, he would have drank and layed to his heart's extent as all highborn people do. He wouldn't have lived past the age of 60 or 70. And with the rebellions in mind, his life could have been shorter.
Honestly the Targaryens history is the most interesting thing they could do for a spinoff
They will do a prequel about them.
@@gery8218 nice do u think it will feature old Valeria before the doom?
@@marios6147 No, it will be about the Targaryen history from Aegons Conquest to the Dance of Dragons.
@@gery8218 Boring, I'd rather see the Essos part of history. Maybe even some sneakpeak of diplomacy/contact with Yi Ti and Asshai
@@marios6147 It would be so expensive to make lol, with hundreds of dragond and an entirely fictional kingdom
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Imagine if they actually revived Catelyn Stark as Lady Stoneheart in the TV show. That would have been fucking crazy.
That would be cool but they stopped fucking caring about quality content.
They could barely explain Quaithe, Jon & Beric's resurrections or the White Walkers without unraveling every plot laid down since Season 1. Yeah I think I'm okay with "unreviving" Catelyn Stark for sanity sake
They fucked up with Jon's parentage arc in the final season. You think they could have pulled of Stoneheart?
@@shreyanshjain4250 Perhaps it would have given Jaime and Brienne something to do that would lead to expanded, more satisfying conclusions to their (and maybe even Catelyn's) arcs.
I really don't think it would have been tough to adapt the new characters to TV and then, if it came to it, just come up with endings for them to bring it to all to a conclusion. It's pretty disappointing.
Come on, you lay it all out like this and you can connect some dots to point to some endings.
@@gfilmer7150 D+D had a better job offer... that then fell thru because they screwed up GoT so bad. Karma.
This was all thought of by one guy...
Yeah boy almost 1,000 likes!
Dylan Wolfram it really is hard to wrap my mind around this fact.
well... George had the help of a certain Elio and Linda, and those two know more of a world of ice and fire then he does according to george.
You play far cry primal or something and watch this video and then they start mentioning spawning wolves and just.... no
They just remember it better, he still came up with the ideas
Heavily inspired by historical events though ie the war of roses and such.
I deeply admire the creativity of all the names. People's names, animal names, war names, ALL OF IT
don't forget titles
titles such as Maesters, septons, hand etc. incredible world building
A lot of the names are actually real names and places or only a letter or two off / spelt differently.
I like how one king had to lock away his sisters so he wouldn’t bone them
LMAOO DUDE
Gross
😂😂 wich totally doesnt make sense. Its like a pedo, "these kids on my street will never be safe unless i lock them away in my basement"
and that's where it all went to shit irreparably.
And then they got banged anyway
Nobody:
Targaryens: DAMN SISTER YOU LOOKING DAMN FINE TODAY
It's not like we're related by blo... wait a minute...
@Lion Licks Sweet home valyria
Sweet Home Dragonstone
Oh come on, they didn’t always marry their siblings
Aamir Razak right they married if Valyrians, Valyrians were a race
I wish we had a series about the Dawn Age. I think that would be amazing. We could see the facts behind all these myths.
George would never write or greenlight that. The Dawn Age, the Last Long Night, and other obscure mythological events need to remain muddied.
It's what adds the mystery to the story. If it was all explained there wouldn't be a wonder factor that the reader / watcher could then fill in on their own.
GRRM himself has said it about eastern Essos, Sothoryos, etc. It's to make the world feel larger and to add wonder.
However, it would be interesting to see how they'd handle something like the Dawn Age. They'd really need to have a strong story and very good writing as it has events that are the foundation of ASOIAF.
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There's actually a really well made cartoon on YT about time in Valeria if you're interested in the history. Very well made and needs more support! 👏
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Bro, Essos is so fascinating. Westeros is cool and all, but Essos is just so Bizarre in such a cool way. I hope one of the HBO spinoffs shows more of essos
I am more intrested in what's outside the Known World. Hopefully G.R.R expands the map
I really want at the very least, a "spin-off" of sorts centered around the seamingly endless continent of Sothoryos; maybe depictions of settlements trying to inhabit Yeen, or a spin-off mini-series about Asshai and it's wanderers
It would be awesome to view this in the perspective of a random Shadowbinder honing his/her skills in magic, avoiding death from the natural elements and hostil surroundings of the area
@@mrhello7611 We also need to see Y Ti empire and their gigantic tower from the age of Long Night and also the gigantic giant that is far bigger than Westerosi giants
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Bro that’s exactly how I feel I want to know what’s goin on over there too same thing with the creatures of sothoros or whatever it is
It would be nice to also get a show in the great empire and YI-TI
They have so much material they can do stuff with
We are getting the sea snake 9 voyages so we will definitely see the world I don’t care even if they have to do some animated stuff
The Dornish are badass af
Sadly ever since oberyns death they been pretty suckish
*entire continent gets conquered*
Dorne-“yo if you fight us we won’t surrender
-Okay
they managed to even kill a dragon if i'm not mistaken
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A dragon AND a queen.
Rhaenys and her dragon Meraxes died in Hellholt.
@@hentaihaven2843 u mean in the books!? Doran still a badass despite his sickness.
This is absolutely phenomenal and intricately deep.
You obviously deserve more damn views man, keep the good work👌
Thank you! :)
Tupinambo YT his lord of the rings videos are dank too
William A it. Is all in the show, first there was a book written explaining the history then the show started and then he explained everything that happened in the show. Who said and did what event after event. Watch the show pay attention it is all there.
Artistic, concise, informative. Amazing video, will definitely be returning in the near future if I need to cite info on the universe of ice and fire.
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so is stannis dead or not?
Andrei Skobtsov no
Andrei Skobtsov In the books Stannis is alive. This story is exactly as in the books.
Done, love your video's man.
Great job on this video. Bravo!
You are the only Maester we will ever need‼️ You do an excellent job of chronically all you know! You do the Citadel proud!
Thank you for all you do!
This is really great! I forgot how much was different in the books from the show...
The HBO GoT series need a prequel. The 8 seasons are like 1/4 of the book
Not sure if you have heard but one based on the long night is in the works, starts filming June so presumably airs around this time next year. That's only 1 out of at least 3 I believe
George Martin has confirmed that there is already 5 spinoffs in the works, with some of them being prequels, even one dating 5,000 years before the events of GoT.
@Worm String it makes a lot of money too
Ya guys like LOTR??
We don't talk about season 8 anymore. It never happened.
A well developed story line. A lot of time and effort must have been put into getting this video together. I've just about finished reading A Storm of Swords and am boggled by the sheer length of this epic that is ASoIaF.
What a magnificent piece of work CivilizationEx . The length is wonderfully extended and I can listen to you speak all day 😂 A king is very pleased.
The Targaryens destroyed themselves
from the begging with the extinction of dragons
targaryens would have achieved nothing without dragon.. such noobs
You mean the mega volcano that ripped their homeland apart.
@@Lancor84 that destroyed the valyrians. not the targaryens
@@locke4606 Targaryens are valyrians. They live in Valyria, alongside with other dragonlords families. All of them die after the explosion, less the Targaryens who escape. After that they move on to Dragonstone. They are valirian race...
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I can't believe we left off where Jon was betrayed. It was a few years ago with the adaptation but a literal DECADE for readers.
really hope we get atleast 1-3 prequel spin offs after game of thornes ended
Apparently HBO already has 5 spin offs in the works for after Game of Thrones ends and which ever is the most popular theyll make spin off show of
i hope to see aegons conquest, dance of the dragons, blackfyre rebellion, and roberts rebellion.
There will be at least one spin off. Game of Thrones has made too much money for HBO. You will have stories from this world until they are no longer profitable.
I want the long night
The Long Night is already confirmed. I hope for a Dance of the Dragons, it's just to perfect, it got everything GoT has except the White Walkers but it has more dragons, many more dragons. Otherwise Blackfyre Rebellion would be nice and the Century of Blood in Essos.
I think Tolkien would be proud
I think that is one of the things that would make GRRM the happiest, I have so much respect for him and hope he knows how much his fans (and would've been Tolkien) love him and his work. Just watched an interview on him seeing his home(s) and theatre in Santa Fe, found out he's married, stayed humble, and helped out his community a lot, just seems to have loved the life he's lived. He's happy with what he's put out, and I for one have no animosity towards him for taking his time because it's my favorite series of all time. Sorry to go on such a tangent here but I just haven't had a place to properly comment this anywhere yet lol
@@joeroseri6201 I know what you mean about your last sentence. I talk to unknown people online more than friends IRL about these stuff!😂😂😂 I need friends IRL who are more into GOT!😭😭😭
He might even be a bit playfully jealous. I'm sure they'd be fierce rivals but also good friends.
do you know were i can find this video
@@ScorpioMystik07 me too 😂
OMG is this what a timeline is?
my god the show completely lacks this
Tbf, most of the shit prior to 297AC wasn't even described in the five novels either, they were explained in a separate book titles the The World of Ice & Fire.
Unknown The Martell storyline was shiton the show. But in the books shows great promise. I just wish it will not be the samefate as what happened in the show. Dorans revenge must be done!
Well the show starts in 298 AL currently at 304 AL
Zach The Ripper it's possible but it's expensive to make it with the quality of the current version.
Star Trek had a lot of episodes and will most likely produce more seasons in the future.
Unknown the show would be have to be like 30 episodes a season
Couple of bones to pick, but it's very well done. The biggest issue I have is the insinuation that Aegon III tried to keep dragons going but that he simply failed. He had a deep distrust and dislike of dragons due to his childhood.
He hated dragons but knew they were key to their family's power.
Exactly!! He watched his mother get eaten by Aegon II’s dragon. Poor kid was extremely traumatized and wanted NOTHING to do with dragons after that.
Of course he did considering he watched his mother being eaten alive. However in the books he did try to revive the dragons. He understood that even tho he hated dragons and was extremely terrified of them. Dragons were the key to house Targaryen’s image and power. The Targaryen’s Downfall began to slowly happen without their dragons.
Damn, that must've been a pain in the arse getting the "present" and "near past" timeline correct in one go. Props to you, great video. 👍🏻
He got all this from a book called a world of ice and fire, he just animated it and summarized events at face value, still a great job though
Wow I really admire the hard work!
When people moan about Martin not coming out with the latest book I am certain they have only followed the TV version which I really love but I started reading these books in the early days and have been incredibly impressed that one man could possibly have just thought all of this up on his own. It is phenomenal and you can see why even a brief run on TV would not be able to explain all of the plots and sub plots and history. This is why they have focused on a few characters who aren't even that signifiant to the overall plot and who are fan favourites (even as we love to hate them). George RR Martin has a mind that is almost impossible to comprehend. When he says he writes without a script I believe him but also admire that anyone could accomplish what he has. When I first learned that they were coming out with the show on HBO I couldn't imagine where they would even begin. I think in all we have had the pleasure of watching the show and when people get tired there are things like this. The links are great as well. This presentation is excellent and I will be recommending it to friends who are wondering why the next book is taking so long. When we think that Martin is basically bringing this incredible story to a conclusion of sorts (who knows) we have to admire him even more. This would be like saying good bye to characters that have lasted in his mind for decades. For all I care HBO can run this for ten more years and I won't lose interest. I am eager to see what type of spin off they come up with. None are going to ever get this far into it but well done!
Read some of the original drafts for the books, they're so different it's difficult to comprehend they are the same story. You definitely won't think he writes with a script afterwards. In his original draft, Tyrion fell in love with Arya, Jaime killed anyone who opposed him and became king after Joffrey died, Catelyn Stark was killed by an Other, loads of massive differences like that.
Its not impossible. What makes you think that one man would not have a team to assist him?
reading his books, i became convinced he takes adderall before writing.
seemeno1 loooool
It takes a user to spot a user
drippin wet well i was prescribed. But yeah i did many other drugs. You're right xD
This is truly amazing. Both in the fact that one man wrote all this out & your incredible video summarizing George's story.
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“I pray for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R’hollor shows me only Snow.” Yeah okay Jon Snow is the “Prince Who Was Promised” and when George RR Martin finishes his books you’ll know
Or Ramsey :P
Pretty sure it's Dany
Whelp, this didn't age too well. In the show, it's Arya. She's the one who killed the Night King.
Btw Adrian, the correct translation was prince OR princess.
@@wadewilson8011this comment was made after s8 tho
First time I've watched any of your videos, definitely subscribing! Well fkn done good sir!!!
I really want a prequel series(Dunk and Egg) and I guess HBO would be good but I want it done by professionals not D&D... like can we please not have them involved in anything A Song of ice and fire ever again.
U know they made seven mostly great seasons, right? Especially when they had GRRM's work to draw from.
@@kurtiswoods1663 did they though?
@@kurtiswoods1663 they made 4 and a half great seasons
@@ememememem592 absolutely. To rank is achievement GOT was on top of stacked list of outstanding tv programming and I dismiss your denial. Most anticipated every episode. Jaw dropper weekly. Did they though? Hell yeah. So good that they slit their own throats trying to get back to the incomparable opening. What do you expect in life and instead of why? Stop. Living people haven't experienced what you're pretending wasn't at times the greatest thing U ever saw. Ass.
@@kurtiswoods1663 nope. Season 5 was when things were good. After that things got worse to worst and shit.
Season 7... could've been better and season 8 was a disappointment. I'm not a professional writer but some things don't sound like they'd make things amazing and jaw dropping of excitement. Nah it seems stupid.
Even after rewatching afew things during the scenes.
They complete threw out every single bit of information.... literally they wasted all other seasons just to lead to stupid scenes that doesn't make any sense.
They should've waited before even doing a show on GoT....
Tolkien's books of lotr was completed and Peter Jackson had plenty of information to go off of. And had support of fans and ppl who knew about it like the actors for Gandalf and Saurman. And acouple others who may have known it.
This was well done and helpful. Thank you for your time and effort to help us understand the history of Ice and Fire. It helped put a lot in proper context and clear up some confusion. You could even break it up into sections and go into more detail in their own videos!
So if it wasn't for the Starks, everyone was fucked? Yet, people still always side against the Starks.
Well, they are the only ancient house to still sit on their castle. Main problem I see with fandom is many people think they gotta look for a hero and in this show there are no heroes, many some heroic moment, but no heroes at all.
Thank you for the book timeline and not the show, this was great, thanks
So many characters and subplot. No wonder the show has to be simplified.
Nice job on this. I have listened to the audio books, but the TV show keeps sticking in my head. This concise description of what happened helped me remember the books. Thanks. :)
It seems like the show kept everything how the book had it up until the red wedding 😭
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I don't understand the down votes on this. It's amazing work!
That was simply beautiful, excellent job!
I’ll give you a subscribe for that video alone. I can’t imagine the time and effort you put into it and it shows!
So much hardwork can be seen in this video.. hats off bro..
This is such a good video. Thank you for taking the time to make this!
Wow.... good job. I always knew the book was better than the show but I forgot just how much better it is. I really really wish G.R.R.MARTIN could live along enough to finish it. Such a shame but hopefully there is someone talented enough to take over from him when the time comes.
this makes me want to actually read the books...
Edit: Why didn't the show cover all of this... They could've made more episodes and we would've loved it..
Wasn't sure how this was going to be when I started. But this turned out to be great. Good job.
This should be a documentary.
Yooooooooo: This is so---- crazy! Thanks CivilizationEx for this post! It definitely is no easy thing to have created this video 🙏 You covered so--- much! My hope is that HBO goes with it and the entire story line...-Much like Disney is running away with the Star Wars thing. HBO could just bounce around different timelines and cover the whole thing. They have content and new series from the Ice & Fire stuff that could last them a century or more. Btw: I'm saying this in 2022, during the "House of the Dragon" (HBO) release
Awesome Summary. Thanks for making this CivilizationEx.
To think the tv show covers just a fraction of the overall timeline. The potential for countless shows that could be made from the ASIOF universe is mind boggling.
PGeraSUX Yeah I know that.😏 I meant that there is so many possible stories over thousands of years that they can’t possibly cover especially when the current show is just within 8 years.
WOW. Great job. I am glad the tv show diluted the history and carcter arcs. It takes for ever to explained to my wife who is who from where. Just imagine, if it was that complicated, lol.
That was awesome and must of taken some time to put together. It's appreciated, I've read all the books up to a dance with dragons, it's been sitting on my shelf for years. so this was a nice refresher before I get into it.
No one ever brings up the fact that the last hero used lady forlorn, a dragonsteel blade to fight the white walkers thousands of years before Valyria is even founded... Dragons had to have existed in Westeros during the time of the long night.
Where did you read that the Last Hero used Lady Forlorn?
Hey Daemon. I live in Platteville, WI. I started reading GotT when the first book came out. One of my favorite series was The Wheel of Timde by Robert Jordan. Also enjoyed the Terry Godkind dserie.s that was his first. Enjoy Blues and classic Rock. Band of all time is still probably the Beatles.
Game of thrones still holds up to it's high expectations of its complex storyline.
What an effort bro. Good job. Hats off.
The Targaryens rode the last dragons on Earth, created empires, fielded massive armies, but only one thing could possibly stop them: natural causes
This is probably the best breakdown I’ve ever seen
You seem like the type of guy who likes to DM
+The Watcher Helm Yeah I used to DM DnD :)
CivilizationEx You play DnD?
Wait what’s dm
@@AlexFarnum1 It means Dungeon Master from Dungeons & Dragons. They are the game organizers who create the environment, events, describes monsters, and helps determine outcomes of other players' actions. 🙂
i wish you came out with this video a few days ago. Literally just had to explain the whole back story of westeros a few days ago to a friend
Great job on this one! I can see all the work that went into this.
Hey man this is spot on. I love your videos so thanks for all the work you put into this!
this was an hr long video?! It felt like I've only watched a 15 min long one.
That was awesome 👏 thank you so much for doing this.
i just finished Dunk and Egg and hearing how Aegon V and Duncan dies makes me so sad :(
George He Audio ikr? dunk the long, thick as castle wall
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*Lunk
Get it right or I'll clout you in the ear
Spectator yeah my bad haha
But yeah it's sad after reading the books... I wonder how was their relationship going from knight and his squire to kingsguard and his king, hopefully Martin will write more books about Tales of Dunk and Egg
Egg is the only king our knees will be bent
A latecomer to the show,thanks for getting me up to speed
Great job man
Incredible video, thanks for the upload.
amazing work!
This was awesome, def some spoilers for HOTD but that’s okay, I enjoyed this!
You should do Elder Scrolls lore.
There were elves. Everyone is a descendand of elves. Fin.
Most boring world there is, despite how good some of the games are.
@@Lancor84 then asoiaf is "there were first men, then they basically all died"
@@Lancor84 if you think tes lore is uninteresting, you obviously don't know enough. tes has one of the most interesting and unique lores in all of fiction.
Lancor84 if you ignore basically all of the lore and history, you’re analysis is correct. However, you have barely scratched the surface.
@@Lancor84 You forgot too mention the Dawn,Meretic,1,2,3 and 4 era.The rise of the mer the Empires of the Ayleids,Altmer and Bosmer.The Rise and Fall of the Dwemer,How the Chimer became the Dunmer.The conquest of Skyrim by the Atmorans led by Ysgramor with the Snow Elves being genocided by the Atmorans.
And bunch of other events.
I would like to point out. 7+ years passed between season 1-8. A takes a month or 2 on average(unless in hurry) to take kings road from king's landing and thats with horse and carriage. So anytime they made that journey or traveled that same length. Any character. A month on average passes. Minus dragon and boat travel. Also raven messages.
Awesome video, but you sound like birdperson from Rick and Morty
Best ASOIAF Timeline Video ever !!!!!!!!! Thanks
Its a shame WE didnt see this "Aegon Targaryen" in the show
Liked, favoured, subscribed and belled. Amazing video!
If only Visery's would have used Alicent's back-door for pleasure, the whole dance would have been avoided!
You mean if he stuck to tradition then the dance of the dragons and murders of hundreds of thousands wouldnt have occured? See what happens withmotional weak men?!?
the final with Jon (ice) and Daenerys (fire) is so beautiful, plz meet in the books
A song of ice and fire is story about jon snow and daenerys
hey why isnt there a lore video about the Dead Men of Dunharrow
cregan stark getting pissed he didnt get to fight so he beheads anyone he thinks ruined his chance to fight then going home is the most stark shit ever and i love it
Bran the Builder looks like Thorin wearing a House Stark T shirt
I don't think I realized that Egg is both Maester Aemon's YOUNGER brother, AND Robert Baratheon's great grandfather.
Took me 30 minutes to realize that he wasn’t talking about lord of the rings
This is amazing man what time you must put into this all. great dedication I thoroughly enjoy these. Keep them coming.
This is not done yet. This is all of the info from the books so far. There are 2 more books still not released yet
...and they may never be released. The last book to be published came out the same year as season one of the show.
Not necessarily 2, it could be more. Jus because there are 8 seasons doesn't mean that there will be the same number of books but all I wish for is he finishes the story before he dies.
@@anishkasharan9952 Don't spew you're bullshit without facts, We're only getting Two more books for the main series. The winds of winter and A dream of spring
Ever wonder if wierwoods are kinda like ego from the mcu? Like is bran gonna spread them across all of Westeros again in an attempt to become even more powerful as his one true goal as the 3 eyed raven?
Just remember folks. This all came from one mans mind.
why are you stealing comments? are you that insecure? do something about your life dude, get help idk
@@spacemonkey1270 bruh chill he doesn't even have as many likes as the other
@@elicapps6585 how does it matter with anything i said? do you think i said it cuz im envying his likes or what?
@@spacemonkey1270 Frankly what I mean is that what you said doesn't matter at all because the guy is probably never going to acknowledge what you said at all
@@elicapps6585 i dont think u can understand english language
This world has so much material to make shows from even if it’s animated I’ll be happy
open transcript, copy, open word document and paste. Now i have the books
Thank you for this video. It helps a lot. Martin is amazing.
The only thing i don't get or i'm confused with is Houses DUrrandon, Lannister, and Gardner already existing. I thought they existed once the Andals migrated to Westeros. This is really confusing cause the FIrst Men blood are only found on Starks not the southerners. Can someone elaborate this cause i am really confused.
Many houses like those you mentioned were originally First Men, but when the Andals invaded they intermarried and mixed together. In the North they did not mix, at least not as much, the First men in the north are basically pure first men, while in the south they are mostly Andals with First Men and Rhoynar mixed in as well.
Ohh so these Houses already existed before the Andals?
45:19 should be Mace Tyrell instead of Randyll Tarly. INCREDIBLE video btw.