Mercedes OM606 vs. OM648, Two Generations of Inline 6-Cylinder Turbo Diesel Engines, W210 & W211

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  • @MissionaryForMexico
    @MissionaryForMexico 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am a proud owner of 126 chassis, 300SD 1983 inline five cylinder turbo diesel. I have found parts off of LKU junkyards. And online after market parts. Probably have over 300K miles on the engine. My favorite car! Easy to work on, all kinds of room in engine bay. Built like a tank!

  • @IvanovSuperturbodieselProjects
    @IvanovSuperturbodieselProjects 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Two best diesel engines mercedes ever done!From both this engines me make 500+ hp.And power limit of both still unknown!

    • @christianforster5176
      @christianforster5176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      there are now examples of the om606 with over 1000hp that have the original engine block but other connecting rods and pistons, mostly with a holset hx 55 and self-made 10 - 14mm diesel pumps

    • @IvanovSuperturbodieselProjects
      @IvanovSuperturbodieselProjects 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@christianforster5176 nobody built yet 1000hp om606 .Most powerful is 800hp(at dyno) for now.

    • @christianforster5176
      @christianforster5176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IvanovSuperturbodieselProjects no i have seen one dyno with 996hp, this car isnt on the internet and the car doesn't drive anymore because after approx. 10 runs the engine blew up

    • @christianforster5176
      @christianforster5176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IvanovSuperturbodieselProjects and a crazy guy drives a 1000hp om606 in a toyota supra

    • @IvanovSuperturbodieselProjects
      @IvanovSuperturbodieselProjects 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@christianforster5176 this supra has 600whp . Don't believe to tictok videos🤣🤣

  • @pob_car
    @pob_car 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Om606 is such a crazy good motor. Especially if you swap on a mechanical pump.

  • @davidnjoroge8495
    @davidnjoroge8495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i have swapped om648 from 211 to my sprinter van,it's difficult 😞 to swap but once done,my sprinter van rocks and rolls,it's got that magic power uphill,amazing engeneering

    • @christianchekure1941
      @christianchekure1941 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Are you using a manual or automatic trans?

  • @nicolasp7395
    @nicolasp7395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The diesel cars that i want since 2019! i hope one day have all inline six om 603, 606, 613 and 648!

    • @muhonen684
      @muhonen684 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 613 and 648 are the same block, so just get a 648.
      The differences are basically non existant.
      Both run on same software

  • @christianforster5176
    @christianforster5176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i have been driving a w210 with the OM606 for a year now but with significantly more power ( i drive it with a borgwarner s200 and a 7.7mm diesel pump from dpuk along with its billet manifold and billet intake manifold and water methanol injection ( the car has 450 hp on the crankshaft and that for 80,000 km and on the complete engine are almost 420,000) ) and this engine has never had any problems and does not give the impression that anything is coming soon. By the way, the car has been running on vegetable oil for 3 months because a liter of diesel currently costs over €2.40 here

    • @isaac4273
      @isaac4273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do you use filtered veg oil or do you use a meth+catalyst mix?

  • @88mythbuster
    @88mythbuster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Our 2006 W211 has 290,000 + miles so far. We are going for 400,000. Sort of a miracle car.

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really like our W211 as well. It's now just a couple hundred miles from reaching 300k.

    • @tonydiesel3444
      @tonydiesel3444 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      300 or 400 is nothing I seen 800k

    • @jonweaver2410
      @jonweaver2410 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@tonydiesel3444in US, Europe, or South Africa? Thanks.

    • @tonydiesel3444
      @tonydiesel3444 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonweaver2410 USA 800,000 us miles car runs fine

  • @piovo1
    @piovo1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’d say give a another year or two and a lot of people will have conversions kits to fit a ZF 8 speed to both. I know there are some already running with it but not a lot of information.

  • @carft1234
    @carft1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It'd be a shame to get rid of the om606, tuning potential is insane compared to the om648

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's true, they are super tunable. I've noticed a lot of these cars getting bought up just to strip the engines out for swaps.

    • @alexanderdanielsson6049
      @alexanderdanielsson6049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Timo Koeppen that goes for both 606 and 648.

    • @Hairybarryy
      @Hairybarryy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Alexander Danielsson 606 is wayyyy better om648 has more electronics

  • @MECHANISMS2SEE
    @MECHANISMS2SEE 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice thanks for sharing !

  • @armindoferreira5886
    @armindoferreira5886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This Gentleman is a Master in communication, Like

  • @alexanderdanielsson6049
    @alexanderdanielsson6049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2 dreamcars for sure

  • @Luton-Mick
    @Luton-Mick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If God decided to sponsor a diesel engine a fully tuned 606 would be sainted! In the UK we had the OM648 powered W211 from 2003-05

    • @Munakas-wq3gp
      @Munakas-wq3gp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had a 2001 W210 E320 with the OM648 for a couple of years. it had about 330 000km on it and ran flawless...

    • @Luton-Mick
      @Luton-Mick 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Munakas-wq3gp That was called the OM613 in the W210 (well it was here in in the UK), basically the same just slight differences in turbo actuation, egr system and 197bhp, I'd hazard a guess slightly more reliable for it v 204bhp for the OM648 in the 211

    • @Munakas-wq3gp
      @Munakas-wq3gp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Luton-Mick Ah, ok. Now that I remember, it did have the black death issue pretty soon after I bought it. Luckily the injectors came off in once piece and I had them resealed and benched.

  • @Stoic-of-Rome
    @Stoic-of-Rome 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    OM606 is the ultimate mercedes diesel. Bottom end designed to take up to 600hp. No emisions crap as silky smooth. German taxis with these easily made 400,000 miles without anything but filters and oil changes!!

  • @MegaRetr
    @MegaRetr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey OM606 is extremely reliable 😊

  • @danielmorgan190
    @danielmorgan190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I liked my om648 so much I ended up buying another. Also have a 87 wagon with the older om603--need to do some work to get that on the road. Wouldn't mind picking up a om606 to complete the trinity. (also have the om642 v6, but it's been a letdown with issues so about to get rid of it).

    • @raycroal
      @raycroal ปีที่แล้ว

      does the 642 feel as powerful as 648??

    • @danielmorgan190
      @danielmorgan190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No not really. But it is in a bigger vehicle (r class) with AWD so it's a different feel than the E class rwd om648
      @@raycroal

    • @raycroal
      @raycroal ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielmorgan190 i like the idea of w221 diesel, but i have tried some modern smaller diesels in cla and A class 2018, and they didn't seem to be as aggressive as a 2011 golf diesel i drove, infact they were pretty flat and boring. i worry i would get a flat feeling diesel if i got w221 as emission regulations seem to have stopped motors getting going at wide open throttle.

    • @danielmorgan190
      @danielmorgan190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well the 05-06 w211 with the om648 is a fun car to drive. It has a lot of kick for a fairly big diesel car. And will go 80-85 all day long at 35mpg @@raycroal

  • @EdgarfloresA
    @EdgarfloresA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Any experience with Black Death?

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fortunately, no! 317k current miles and still going strong. I do remember seeing @LegitStreetCars do an episode some years back where he covered the black death problem with his OM648 car. It's worth a watch!

  • @mattrix2007
    @mattrix2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The w211 was actually released in May 2002. I have the 20th vehicle to roll off production in May 2002 (E270 cdi)

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, in the US they were 2003 model year and the diesel was 2005 and 2006 only.

    • @Munakas-wq3gp
      @Munakas-wq3gp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jetlagheroes7860 In Europe the diesels were continued on every model year up to this date... Now you just have to get a hybrid.

  • @peterdaniel66
    @peterdaniel66 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My 99 has 454,000 miles. And I have had the 2005 version as well. Totally prefer the 99.

  • @alouisschafer7212
    @alouisschafer7212 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best of the bunch is the OM611.

  • @justinsane7128
    @justinsane7128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Getting 41 winter and 47 summer on my 05 E320 CDI. Mile high and a quarter million miles. Would it run wvo? I ran my 82 CD turbodiesel on it with mods.
    Love to see a pad replacement vid.

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure about WVO with the common rail injection on the OM648. I've run 100% biodiesel in the OM606 without modification and it runs perfectly.

    • @LoganC278
      @LoganC278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd recommend no more than 20% biodiesel, it runs fine in the 606 because of the injection pump. However in the 648 the injectors shoot at a higher pressure and it is very easy to clog it up. That goes with any common rail diesel though

  • @Mocconagames
    @Mocconagames 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    tyvm, now I know why some of 648s don't have any vacuum pump on it.

  • @F14foreverF14
    @F14foreverF14 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:40 I have a CLK-220 CDi rocking an OM-646 and the injection pressure is 2,000 bars.
    11:01 Yeah swirl-flaps $uck but luckily my 646 does not use that tech. Egr is the culprit in killing the flaps, exhaust heat plus all the gunk/sludge from egr will destroy the mechanism.
    5:04 Also have an old 190-D with an OM-601 and the injection pressure is 130 bars(Lol), I think the OM 601 602 and 603 series (ala your sold W-124) differ from the OM 604 605 and 606 series(ala your W-210) in that the former have 2 valves while the latter have EDC (Electric Diesel Control) 4 valves per cylinder.
    Btw there's a W-210 E-290 Turbo Diesel that uses the old 1980's OM-602 5-cylinder bored and stroked from 2.5l to 2.9l with direct injection as opposed to 602's original in-direct.
    And also a W-202 C-200 Diesel using a 1980's OM-601,
    am guessing both were marketed to folks who were accustomed to the old non-electronic Merc diesels that were virtually indestructible, am sure your W-124 agrees.
    Heck I've seen 601 and 602's running on cooking oil with no modifications at all.
    12:37 CLS-Class also has your Sensotronic Brake Control

  • @raycroal
    @raycroal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so jet lag tell me the best order for w124.w210 and w211 you are lucky enough to have driven them all what is the best chassis/model

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like them all! I think for longevity, probably the W124, although getting parts is harder all the time. The W210 has the best ride, and the W211 has the best features and most power. Also, the W211 has been the most trouble free for us!

    • @scottandison1086
      @scottandison1086 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have owned all three and agree.
      I do wish I never sold the 95 124 606 car.
      Lots of 2 year only cars in the USA!

  • @andykabeer8325
    @andykabeer8325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, great video, how does OM642 compares to these engines

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  ปีที่แล้ว

      You know, I'm not sure! I've not owned the V6 version.

  • @zeomarmob
    @zeomarmob หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually the part about quantity of sbc cycles is not true… the errors come from either blown pressure accumulator or brushes worn out on the motor. Very easy fix…

  • @jonweaver2410
    @jonweaver2410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More videos of W210. Perse, driving around towns and highways. Thanks.

  • @hseochin
    @hseochin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still prefer the W210 bodyshell (exterior & interior dashboard instrumentation design etc.) but with updated engines & air-suspension from W211. I never like the idea of changing too drastically the appearances from 1 generation to the next just to look 'different' as function must prevail over form.
    e.g. the black-white bar fuel gauge in W211 is horrible, way too difficult to read clearly compared to the classic proven swing-needle style with the amber colour needle set against warm-white character lighting...that's way more ergonomically superior presentation. As far as i'm concerned, they should have continued such old-school gauge style even for the newest models but of course nowadays done virtually via simulating the analogue gauge via high resolution graphics on modern flat panels instead.

    • @Munakas-wq3gp
      @Munakas-wq3gp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The W210 chassis had horrible rust issues with the new 'eco' water based paints. Ruined my otherwise mint condition 1996 E320 with the smooth M104 inline 6. I loved that car...

  • @anaskhalil4997
    @anaskhalil4997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am interested in buying the w210

  • @armindoferreira5886
    @armindoferreira5886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Gentleman is a Master in communication Like !…

  • @seddam
    @seddam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They moved to V6 after the facelift. But at least they got em back in the latest line up.

    • @Munakas-wq3gp
      @Munakas-wq3gp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Europe they never discontinued them, just switched from i6 to V6. I had a 2001 E320 with the i6 cdi...

    • @seddam
      @seddam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Munakas-wq3gp only om648 E320 CDI has i6 Diesel. And they switched that to om642 V6 after 2006 with the facelift w211.

  • @jonweaver2410
    @jonweaver2410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope that a 1996 Impala SS behinds CDI 320.

  • @jonweaver2410
    @jonweaver2410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the w210 still available or sold? I'll buy it right now. Thanks.

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still available.

    • @jonweaver2410
      @jonweaver2410 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jetlagheroes7860 May I asked your asking price?

    • @jonweaver2410
      @jonweaver2410 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jetlagheroes7860 May I asked your asking price?

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonweaver2410 Send us an email to the address listed in the video description.

  • @rrowe3774
    @rrowe3774 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you sell the 210?

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rrowe3774 yes, sold quite some time ago.

  • @aiuduin
    @aiuduin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm interested in buying your 98 E300

  • @mattiv.7223
    @mattiv.7223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What you think, is om613 good engine? It's 3.2 liter diesel engine, you probably know it😁

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      From what I understand it's a good engine and very similar to the OM648, but we didn't get that version here in the states.

  • @adventurousairman
    @adventurousairman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you sell the w210 ?

  • @carsnanidiot
    @carsnanidiot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2 STROKE OIL .. % PR TANKUP = HEALTHY FUELPUMP

  • @robertamoyaw8812
    @robertamoyaw8812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hopefully you haven't sold you w210 yet. If you still have it and will let it go , lemme know how much you are asking for it 😊

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still have it. If you're interested, send me an email to the address listed in the video description.

    • @robertamoyaw8812
      @robertamoyaw8812 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok , asap 🤠

  • @lionofjudah4574
    @lionofjudah4574 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should get a cat to protect your edible hood pad, lol, from rodents. I hear those wires taste good too.

  • @antiq777
    @antiq777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you put OM 606 into Chevy which is behind of black👆🏾 Mercedes - you will have a real comfortable airplane🛩🦾🎩

  • @johnyboy4205
    @johnyboy4205 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Straight pipe that that 2 sec turns in to 0.5

  • @ahmedkiyimba5934
    @ahmedkiyimba5934 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Straight 6 CDI diesel is OM613, the V6 CDI becomes OM648

    • @TheRaysDoc
      @TheRaysDoc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM648_engine

  • @alvann1121
    @alvann1121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    selling the W211?

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, that's one of our daily driven cars.

  • @cesarcortes690
    @cesarcortes690 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A w123 turbodiesel would be nice as well to have aside and compare

  • @MaxHuth
    @MaxHuth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video ..........
    but it's kind of irritating being experienced hearing somebody else talk about these two cars....

    • @LoganC278
      @LoganC278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Whys that

  • @varigbruna8081
    @varigbruna8081 ปีที่แล้ว

    Om 606 is 3000 psi per inyector bro

  • @PARDS2
    @PARDS2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First of all,,,,,,,Great Hair--lol,,,,,,,if you have ever done a Voltage Regulator on the Om648,,,,,,,,please pass on any tips that you remember,,,,,,,from the top,,,the bottom---thx much

  • @jonweaver2410
    @jonweaver2410 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought Mercedes CDI were in Germany. But in USA.

  • @r.fumador1146
    @r.fumador1146 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i have 300td w210 is better, the steering is magical compared with the 211

  • @Wilt8v92
    @Wilt8v92 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mechanical injectors all the way the less electronic crap the better especially in a 4wd..

  • @MissionaryForMexico
    @MissionaryForMexico ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neither one is good as the 126 chassis 300SD turbo inline five cyl. Diesel 3.0 l.

  • @jarripotero8535
    @jarripotero8535 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Open the hoods completely.

  • @antiq777
    @antiq777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❗️Chipmunks 🐿 better like it OM606 and under hood material.

  • @MarjanZuza
    @MarjanZuza 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Dreamer-h9f
    @Dreamer-h9f ปีที่แล้ว

    Між ними був іще om613, але там головка блока циліндрів погана, неправильно геометрія постелі розподільних валів, om606, або іще "the best end" останній форкамерний дизель мерседес для легкових авто, і він просто богоподібний, om648 в свою чергу це 613 з вилікуваними дитячими хворобами, зокрема й по голові, і паливна апаратура там дещо інша, на мою суб'єктивну думку це кращий дизельний двигун мерседес із common rail, також має величезний потенціал для тюнінгу

  • @alviprojka9696
    @alviprojka9696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sell me the 97 benz plsss

    • @jetlagheroes7860
      @jetlagheroes7860  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's a 98. Going up for sale really soon!

  • @gabedaxe477
    @gabedaxe477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t sell it plz

  • @DexMaster881
    @DexMaster881 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So first of all its your car do what you want.
    But please don't teach people stupid stuff.
    Biodiesel is for a D2( thats what real, old diesel fuel is called, one that came before EuroDiesel fuel) as Ethanol for a Petrol engine.
    These Engines like a bit of it because Eurodiesel lacks essential Oils and Sulfur that lubricates the injection system.
    In Europe some people use 2 stroke oil and they would dump a small bottle in a tank from time to time when refueling.
    But running Full Biodiesel for a long time will gunk up your injection system.
    And running Full Eurodiesel will shorten your engine lifespan.
    Noticeably, but not catastrophically.
    Second
    Real diesels( not lean running ones) pre common rail(pre TDI) do not Produce NOX in quantities that Modern cars do. They produce similar amounts to Gasoline cars. Tiny compared even to Most modern Diesels.
    And third CDI is not a Turbo engine its a Supercharger engine that's why its snappy, but it also doesn't have top end power compared to the Turbos.

  • @rosssmith9941
    @rosssmith9941 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    648>