your a life savor . im having the same problem right now as we speak. i replaced the harness, stater, startor, rect,stator plugs ,coil packs. starter clutch, clutch leaver
Thanks men I believe I had the same issue and for what I seeing I can Fix it My self instead od spending hundreds of $ to thw Mechanic ...GRAET YOU GIVE ME HOPE 🙏.BLESSINGS 👍
My pleasure. From what I experienced, it’s definitely somewhere in between the starter and down at the starter clutch which is the very last gear all the way on the bottom. Good luck to you, let me know if it works. Thanks for commenting
I have the same problem in my bike in hot start its like low battery whenever i try to crank it, i will try it to my bike, thanks for sharing for your discovery.
My pleasure, good luck with it. I didn’t see anything on the Internet about it, so I knew it would be pretty messed up if I didn’t share my find. Let me know what you find out.
I have a second generation 2007 1300 Hayabusa it a will. Cold startup real good once get hot I come off the clutch she was shut down and won't start up until it cools off
Sometimes the starters are affected over time from the heat, I’m not saying what my problem was, everybody else is going to have. Until you figure it out, you can always pop start your bike. Have somebody push you or get a good roll by walking as hard as you can while you’re on the bike and the only luck I’ve had is doing it in first gear. Second gear just makes it stumble and stop. The first gear makes it turnover really fast like the motor needs. If you’re gonna go out and about and you have to park, try to park on a hill or somewhere where you can get a rolling start
Hi i have a 2013 triumph tiger 800 with the hot start problem and also the grinding noise while idling and driving..sounds like what you say could be the problem regarding the hollow pin.
Just to make sure …. I’m having slow cranking when it’s hot …. Mine is clean and oiled up but still having the freaking hot start problem …. I’m trying it tomorrow…. But I was wondering what parts I should get and where to get it from … plus I’m pretty sure that I lost one of the washers .. is that gonna be a problem
I’m not a professional when it comes to it but I definitely learned a lot about it. I got mine from a cycle salvage yard with a Hayabusa they had a blown head but everything else was good. Try to get one off of a fairly new used motor, I got everything for 125 for mine
Sorry I was in a rush when I wrote that, you should get the starter idler gear cover, and the inside cover as well that the pin drops into to hold the idler gear in place, I would get everything else if you’re not sure. There’s another gear that looks like a big pinwheel and then a starter clutch behind that which is all the way down in the front bottom right. Get everything from the starter down to the starter clutch. Sometimes starters get worn out and the magnets swell up and make it act like that but that’s something You’ll need to check. I also put bigger gauge wires from my battery to the starter and it turned a lot faster than the stock ones
The starter is underneath the gas tank, the parts you need to replace are the pin and the housings that sandwich over it on the right hand side under the whole right side plastic cover. I got mine off of a motorcycle they didn’t have the problem from a motorcycle junkyard. You would have to call around and ask.
@@danmancastro Dude that’s bad ass. I spent almost a year trying to narrow it down and I finally did. I’m so glad that it worked for you, I wish more people would respond if it worked for them, I couldn’t find anything About the problem when I was searching but I’m glad to help. Good for you, take care buddy
Hey kind sir if you reply to this you are a god , So I have a gsxr 1300 , bought it in 2016 new. Recently after 5 years of riding it an issue arose with it not hot starting after having some work done on the transmission ( especially 1,5,6 gears). Now that my transmission was new I didn’t think any problem would rise but my bike would start smooth when cold but as soon as I would be at a gas station it won’t hot start. I would have to wait 15 min for it to start and then it would smoothly. My mechanic suggested to get a new battery which I did but it did not fix the issue , now my bike is at the mechanic’s and he said he is gonna clean up the ignition properly and if that does not work he’l most probably recommend a new one ( the ignition being the part under the tank of the busa I’m not sure what it’s exactly called). The bike runs smooth , no over heating no nothing brand as new. So if his method does not work should I try yours and what parts from the video should I change,replace or repair. It would be of great help if you could offer your insight to another busa bro from a country far away. Thank you in advance my friend.
Also I could not understand the issue with the rod in the video. So it should be still straight and not wobble around at all if I am right. So the cap and the rod will be the parts that need replacing?
I believe I made a second video, explaining the same thing, maybe look at my videos, and find the other one, and it might clear it up for you a little bit. That hollow pin that sits onto the part that is on the bike, should not have any play at all. it should be very tight with no wiggle room. Like a perfectly machine hole for the exact size, mine would wobble around because it was worn out over time. The original owner that on the bike before me said he would have to wait 10 or 15 minutes after it was stopped to start it back up again. By the time I got it, You would have to wait about an hour and some change before it would happen again because everything needed to cool all the way down because it got very worn out. It just keeps getting worse, and if I were you, I would check with a salvage shop to see if you can get the whole group of parts and just swap them out and put them on your bike. I paid $75 for everything from Cycle Salvage shop and put it on, and I have had no problems ever cents.
@@Ryan_utah the hollow pin that the idler gear slips onto is the one you need to check for sloppiness, the case or housing that the pin sits in is the part that gets wallowed out, the pin should twist but not wobble at all. I show it better in the other video. Please keep me in the loop bro. I’ll be here
@@rickgidney1005 alright I understood. The pin should have no wiggle room and should sit strictly straight and rotate on spot right. I will have it checked since I am going to pick the bike tomorrow but the issue was not resolved. I don’t trust my mechanic either seems to me he is just trying to make more money out of me. Il change the entire housing and the pin/rod with it. Will update you on how that goes and thanks for the quick reply man appreciate it a lot .
my 2000 SRAD600 with 750FI in it, it does sound like it's binding when starting hot. cold start is fine, but lets say I drive it or let it warm up, stop the engine and try to start it again, it just wont crank as fast anymore and it gets worse and worse with every turn. battery is healthy, starter was just disassembled, inspected, cleaned and greased. started it up after reassembling the starter, cold start was fine. let it warm up to 60-70deg C, shut the engine and try to restart it and it just bogs slower and slower with every crank like the battery was dead. is that pin causing all that?
I tried greasing it up because I was narrowing it down, but doing that didn’t help either. Me and a friend finally noticed it was a little bit sloppy and just decided to go for it and buy one that was used but not loose and it’s been good ever since
@@paceves88 I cleaned the starter, regreased it and then drove 230km in one go. it seemed to help, however it was cleaned from the right side of the engine too. so far no issues except what the starter caused.
@@vahvelpoiss I don’t know if you’re talking about the Hayabusa or the 600 that the guy in the comment was talking about but I’m sure it’s a fairly common thing that not a lot of people know about. You should take years apart and see if it’s loose at all like I showed in the video.
My 2002 ate up the starter motor I just got brand new. The teeth are all screwed up. Pissed off about it all cause I’ve been chasing this issue for close to a year now. SMFH!
Yes, this is a 2003 generation one Suzuki Hayabusa, GSX 1300 R 1298 cc, but the bike have had the problem since the original owner and bought it in 2003. Which means it was probably a bad mold.
I have a 2002 Hayabusa and it cranks but no start. I bought a new starter and it didnt work. I sprayed starter fluid in the air intake and it started for a second or two and shut off. I did it again and it started and made a grinding noise that sounded bad. I opened the cover and found metal shavings and the sprockets on the starter were ate up. Not sure what to do now.
I got my parts from a place called Neanderthal in California, I don’t think they’re around anymore, but the parts I got came off of a bike with a blown head or something. And I wondered if the parts that I got we’re going to have the same issue so it’s kind of a gamble, but they were fine.if you have to buy them brand new it’s pretty expensive but I got all of the parts for about $100 which was a smoking deal.
I'm from Europe, I plan to keep the bike with me and I have no desire to ever sell it. If it's the same problem as yours, I'll buy new parts no matter how much they cost because I love BKing.
@@markoristic5416 that’s the way I feel, newer bikes, are a little bit faster, but the gen one definitely grows on you, and is totally unique. I won’t get rid of mine either, I love it too much. It’s definitely fast enough for me, and then some!!
Hello friend I hope you are well, I have a model 2000 hayabusa, with the same problem, and I want to see if you can support me, tell me where to contact us. BYE BYE
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This was a great video. Thank you very much for making it.
Im having the same issue. I am going to try this. Ill keep you posted, thanks man!
Did you get your Busa fixed?
your a life savor . im having the same problem right now as we speak. i replaced the harness, stater, startor, rect,stator plugs ,coil packs. starter clutch, clutch leaver
Dude, let me know if that works for you. I couldn’t find help out there at all so I wanted to make sure to share my story
I believe I put up two videos, one is shorter and one’s a little longer. One of them I was talking to my brother in but whatever, let me know
Did you get it taken care of?
Definitely a life saver. I’m having this same issue. Where did you buy all your parts at ?
Thanks men I believe I had the same issue and for what I seeing I can Fix it My self instead od spending hundreds of $ to thw Mechanic ...GRAET YOU GIVE ME HOPE 🙏.BLESSINGS 👍
My pleasure. From what I experienced, it’s definitely somewhere in between the starter and down at the starter clutch which is the very last gear all the way on the bottom. Good luck to you, let me know if it works. Thanks for commenting
I have the same problem in my bike in hot start its like low battery whenever i try to crank it, i will try it to my bike, thanks for sharing for your discovery.
My pleasure, good luck with it. I didn’t see anything on the Internet about it, so I knew it would be pretty messed up if I didn’t share my find. Let me know what you find out.
How you get the bottom bolt out
I have a second generation 2007 1300 Hayabusa it a will. Cold startup real good once get hot I come off the clutch she was shut down and won't start up until it cools off
Sometimes the starters are affected over time from the heat, I’m not saying what my problem was, everybody else is going to have. Until you figure it out, you can always pop start your bike. Have somebody push you or get a good roll by walking as hard as you can while you’re on the bike and the only luck I’ve had is doing it in first gear. Second gear just makes it stumble and stop. The first gear makes it turnover really fast like the motor needs. If you’re gonna go out and about and you have to park, try to park on a hill or somewhere where you can get a rolling start
Hi i have a 2013 triumph tiger 800 with the hot start problem and also the grinding noise while idling and driving..sounds like what you say could be the problem regarding the hollow pin.
Pretty easy to check, good luck with it bud. Let us know what you figure out. People benefit from these conversations.
Estimado amigo necesito saber si el piñón loco del hayabusa 2003 le puede servir al hayabusa año 2002?
Yes sir, I believe they are all the same from 1999 to 2005. It should be perfect for you.
Just to make sure …. I’m having slow cranking when it’s hot …. Mine is clean and oiled up but still having the freaking hot start problem …. I’m trying it tomorrow…. But I was wondering what parts I should get and where to get it from … plus I’m pretty sure that I lost one of the washers .. is that gonna be a problem
I’m not a professional when it comes to it but I definitely learned a lot about it. I got mine from a cycle salvage yard with a Hayabusa they had a blown head but everything else was good. Try to get one off of a fairly new used motor, I got everything for 125 for mine
Sorry I was in a rush when I wrote that, you should get the starter idler gear cover, and the inside cover as well that the pin drops into to hold the idler gear in place, I would get everything else if you’re not sure. There’s another gear that looks like a big pinwheel and then a starter clutch behind that which is all the way down in the front bottom right. Get everything from the starter down to the starter clutch. Sometimes starters get worn out and the magnets swell up and make it act like that but that’s something You’ll need to check. I also put bigger gauge wires from my battery to the starter and it turned a lot faster than the stock ones
Where do you a replacement pin that wont cause the same problem? Or do you have to replace the whole starter?
The starter is underneath the gas tank, the parts you need to replace are the pin and the housings that sandwich over it on the right hand side under the whole right side plastic cover. I got mine off of a motorcycle they didn’t have the problem from a motorcycle junkyard. You would have to call around and ask.
@@rickgidney1005 Wow! Thanks for the quick reply! I'm just now seeing it. You solved my problem! We were beating our heads agaisnt the wall!
@@danmancastro Dude that’s bad ass. I spent almost a year trying to narrow it down and I finally did. I’m so glad that it worked for you, I wish more people would respond if it worked for them, I couldn’t find anything About the problem when I was searching but I’m glad to help. Good for you, take care buddy
@@rickgidney1005 Merry Christmas to you and your family!
@@danmancastro Merry Christmas to you and your family as well. Thank you sir
Hey kind sir if you reply to this you are a god ,
So I have a gsxr 1300 , bought it in 2016 new. Recently after 5 years of riding it an issue arose with it not hot starting after having some work done on the transmission ( especially 1,5,6 gears). Now that my transmission was new I didn’t think any problem would rise but my bike would start smooth when cold but as soon as I would be at a gas station it won’t hot start.
I would have to wait 15 min for it to start and then it would smoothly. My mechanic suggested to get a new battery which I did but it did not fix the issue , now my bike is at the mechanic’s and he said he is gonna clean up the ignition properly and if that does not work he’l most probably recommend a new one ( the ignition being the part under the tank of the busa I’m not sure what it’s exactly called).
The bike runs smooth , no over heating no nothing brand as new.
So if his method does not work should I try yours and what parts from the video should I change,replace or repair.
It would be of great help if you could offer your insight to another busa bro from a country far away.
Thank you in advance my friend.
Also I could not understand the issue with the rod in the video. So it should be still straight and not wobble around at all if I am right.
So the cap and the rod will be the parts that need replacing?
I believe I made a second video, explaining the same thing, maybe look at my videos, and find the other one, and it might clear it up for you a little bit. That hollow pin that sits onto the part that is on the bike, should not have any play at all. it should be very tight with no wiggle room. Like a perfectly machine hole for the exact size, mine would wobble around because it was worn out over time. The original owner that on the bike before me said he would have to wait 10 or 15 minutes after it was stopped to start it back up again. By the time I got it, You would have to wait about an hour and some change before it would happen again because everything needed to cool all the way down because it got very worn out. It just keeps getting worse, and if I were you, I would check with a salvage shop to see if you can get the whole group of parts and just swap them out and put them on your bike. I paid $75 for everything from Cycle Salvage shop and put it on, and I have had no problems ever cents.
@@Ryan_utah look at the other video that I made about the Hayabusa hot start problem/fix. You might see what I was talking about a little better buddy
@@Ryan_utah the hollow pin that the idler gear slips onto is the one you need to check for sloppiness, the case or housing that the pin sits in is the part that gets wallowed out, the pin should twist but not wobble at all. I show it better in the other video. Please keep me in the loop bro. I’ll be here
@@rickgidney1005 alright I understood. The pin should have no wiggle room and should sit strictly straight and rotate on spot right. I will have it checked since I am going to pick the bike tomorrow but the issue was not resolved. I don’t trust my mechanic either seems to me he is just trying to make more money out of me. Il change the entire housing and the pin/rod with it. Will update you on how that goes and thanks for the quick reply man appreciate it a lot .
my 2000 SRAD600 with 750FI in it, it does sound like it's binding when starting hot. cold start is fine, but lets say I drive it or let it warm up, stop the engine and try to start it again, it just wont crank as fast anymore and it gets worse and worse with every turn. battery is healthy, starter was just disassembled, inspected, cleaned and greased. started it up after reassembling the starter, cold start was fine. let it warm up to 60-70deg C, shut the engine and try to restart it and it just bogs slower and slower with every crank like the battery was dead. is that pin causing all that?
Yes, the pin was causing every bit of it, I know because I replaced every thing else possible that it could’ve been. That was the only thing doing it.
I tried greasing it up because I was narrowing it down, but doing that didn’t help either. Me and a friend finally noticed it was a little bit sloppy and just decided to go for it and buy one that was used but not loose and it’s been good ever since
Did u try it did it work I have the same bike and it’s doing the same exact thing cold starts just fine hot it will give me a start or two if am lucky
@@paceves88 I cleaned the starter, regreased it and then drove 230km in one go. it seemed to help, however it was cleaned from the right side of the engine too. so far no issues except what the starter caused.
@@vahvelpoiss I don’t know if you’re talking about the Hayabusa or the 600 that the guy in the comment was talking about but I’m sure it’s a fairly common thing that not a lot of people know about. You should take years apart and see if it’s loose at all like I showed in the video.
My 2002 ate up the starter motor I just got brand new. The teeth are all screwed up. Pissed off about it all cause I’ve been chasing this issue for close to a year now. SMFH!
Yeah, from what I came to learn, it’s a pretty common stupid problem with not too many real good answers out there. Hope this can help you out some.
Is this for a gen 1 and how many miles were on the bike?
Yes, this is a 2003 generation one Suzuki Hayabusa, GSX 1300 R 1298 cc, but the bike have had the problem since the original owner and bought it in 2003. Which means it was probably a bad mold.
I have a 2002 Hayabusa and it cranks but no start. I bought a new starter and it didnt work. I sprayed starter fluid in the air intake and it started for a second or two and shut off. I did it again and it started and made a grinding noise that sounded bad. I opened the cover and found metal shavings and the sprockets on the starter were ate up. Not sure what to do now.
What year is your busa?
2003
Same problem on Suzuki bking same engine
Yeah, it’s not fun to deal with but it definitely fixed my issue.
I got my parts from a place called Neanderthal in California, I don’t think they’re around anymore, but the parts I got came off of a bike with a blown head or something. And I wondered if the parts that I got we’re going to have the same issue so it’s kind of a gamble, but they were fine.if you have to buy them brand new it’s pretty expensive but I got all of the parts for about $100 which was a smoking deal.
I'm from Europe, I plan to keep the bike with me and I have no desire to ever sell it. If it's the same problem as yours, I'll buy new parts no matter how much they cost because I love BKing.
@@markoristic5416 that’s the way I feel, newer bikes, are a little bit faster, but the gen one definitely grows on you, and is totally unique. I won’t get rid of mine either, I love it too much. It’s definitely fast enough for me, and then some!!
Hello friend I hope you are well, I have a model 2000 hayabusa, with the same problem, and I want to see if you can support me, tell me where to contact us.
BYE BYE
Sorry I didn’t see your question, ask me whatever you need to, I’d love to help people