The $299 Everything 10G Firewall NAS and Virtualization 1U

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  • We test the 1U version of the fanless Everything homelab node to find a $300 8-core system with 4x 10G ports, 5x 2.5GbE ports, and SATA JBOD expansion. This makes a great pfSense, OPNsense, Proxmox VE, Debian, Linux, TrueNAS, Ubuntu, or other box. One can even customize it with ECC memory and multiple drives. With an 8-core Intel Atom C3758R it can even handle a few virtual machines and containers for a VM or Docker host.
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    00:00 Introduction
    02:15 External Hardware Overview
    06:19 Internal Hardware Overview
    10:53 Performance
    13:32 Power Consumption and Noise
    15:44 Key Lessons Learned and Customization
    20:30 Wrap-up
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  • @RemyL75
    @RemyL75 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +112

    This is the first time that I actually beat STH to finding and buying a product LOL. But yeah this one works great.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Yea, a bit slow on this one. It was tested a few months ago and this video was actually recorded in May pre-baby STH.

    • @RemyL75
      @RemyL75 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I bought the fan less unit a few months ago and was thinking of getting a second one and literally stumbled across this one a few weeks ago and have had it for about a week now. The fan less one will now be my Truenas Scale test box with 4 drives using a 8087-to-SATA cable and a 4-bay enclosure. The 1U is my new pfsense box (fan less unit was the pfsense box, but all I had to do was backup from old and restore to the 1U and it worked without issues). Thank you for the recommendations.

    • @fumes007
      @fumes007 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Link please? Looking to replace my protectli proxmox host

    • @arraybytes7214
      @arraybytes7214 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same here, got mine in February. Have had issues with the SFP+ ports with DAC cables, could only get it working with fiber. Not sure if it is an issue with proxmox or not.

    • @0xKruzr
      @0xKruzr 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo congrats!

  • @chaosfenix
    @chaosfenix 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +106

    It is crazy how this thing is a lot more powerful than the UDM Pro Max while costing half the price. It infuriates me that businesses still put 1999 Gigabit Ethernet on higher end gear. Our wired connections are now bottlenecking our wifi 7 connections. 2.5Gbps should be the bare minimum on any networking gear going forward.

    • @udirt
      @udirt 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      to be fair, 1999 gigabit was most likely fibre and a full-length syskonnect adapter.

    • @Alan.livingston
      @Alan.livingston 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Vendors always doin the bare minimum they think people will accept.

    • @Xondan
      @Xondan 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      You are forgetting that you are not buying only the hardware with the UDM. You are also buying the Software and the UX. That also cost money to develop. Yes, i find my UDM Pro SE lacking in Some Points as only 2.5GBit RJ45 LAN Port, would have loved 10 Gbit, so have to fallback to SFP+, 1 Sata drive only. But that was never the point of the machine. I'm more than happy with its capabilities and the price is more than just. Also my greatest complain the lack of snat /dnat just got resolved.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      but you can get RGB switches from them, they are clearly better right

    • @gowinfanless
      @gowinfanless 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Alan.livingston But,will people really accept it?

  • @1armbiker
    @1armbiker 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    This is exactly what I’ve been looking for at work. Time to buy a dozen.

  • @BrianThomas
    @BrianThomas 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I like this unit. Looks like aa good Christmas gift for me.

  • @throwaway3756
    @throwaway3756 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I got one of these a few months ago. It's been a great little box as a firewall.

    • @superb3113
      @superb3113 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What firewall software did you go with?

    • @throwaway3756
      @throwaway3756 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@superb3113 Opnsense. It's alright but I find the configuration to be unintuitive. Sometimes the rules don't apply the way that I feel like they should.

  • @RLFWE1
    @RLFWE1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    That SFF8087 port would make this unit pair nicely with ye olde HP microservers and allow them to be used as 4 bay SATA expansion boxes, bypassing their elderly motherboards.

  • @hxx888
    @hxx888 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just what I need! Thank you sir

  • @tactoad
    @tactoad 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I got really excited when I saw the AST2400 chip onboard but too bad they dont use it as BMC. Its more useful then a console port.

  • @flahiker
    @flahiker 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    how ironic, I was just looking at this system as I wanted the qotom unit with 4 10GBIT ports that you reviewed in Feb but in a 1U case. I am probably going to pick one up this week :)

    • @nitronaf
      @nitronaf 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i cant seem to get the sfp+ to work in 10gb in proxmox. just a warning since I did actually buy the qotom.

  • @TheChadXperience909
    @TheChadXperience909 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The fan in the bottom basically makes this a 2U; not a 1U. Maybe if it were in the front or side, but you're not going to be able to stack this unit and still have airflow.
    Edit: I guess, you could place it above your patch panel, which isn't very ideal, but at least you aren't wasting a blank. Also, it might make sense to mount upside down, and then you could place it below the patch panel. I guess, that's OK as a router/firewall, but not a VM host, and especially not a HA cluster.

  • @daninmanchester
    @daninmanchester 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    It's just a shame they don't do a slightly larger version that would allow a 3.5" drive. I could whack my 20TB drive in it and run it as a mini server with all my media , CCTV, etc, then cluster it.

  • @MattHudsonAtx
    @MattHudsonAtx 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Really dig the new Key Lessons Learned section. That MBA is really paying off! 😊

  • @marktackman2886
    @marktackman2886 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is something we can finally recommend!

  • @hpsfresh
    @hpsfresh 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Plan to buy one. As far as I know it also supports ecc

  • @realandrewhatfield
    @realandrewhatfield 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Of course a later CPU might be nice, but the one piece missing is a real BMC. To put these anywhere, an out of band management interface would make this so competitive!

  • @larsla
    @larsla 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I had to add a fan to the "fanless" version because it was very unstable otherwise. I DIYed a connector for the spare SATA power port and connected that to a fan speed controller and then on to a 140mm fan screwed into the heatsink fins. I 3d printed a new bottom cover with vent holes and have it standing on the side. Instead of 60C+ CPU temps I now see 40-45C and it hasn't crashed since.
    But with that and 32gb ECC memory and 2x2TB NVMes it runs Proxmox (after some NIC driver patching) fine with a virtualized router VM and some containers for services.
    Also added a 2.5" SATA drive for Proxmox backups and screwed that into the 3d printed bottom cover.

    • @intrax2tv
      @intrax2tv 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So 'fanless' is FAKE...
      Nice setup!

    • @mikel2700
      @mikel2700 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      did you follow a post for patching?

    • @gutschke
      @gutschke 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      There is a fan connector on the board. Why didn't you connect to that one instead?

    • @larsla
      @larsla 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mikel2700 It was somewhere on the ServeTheHome forum. I can't post links here but search for qotom-denverton-fanless-system-with-4-sfp and you should find the thread. I installed it as a DKMS module so that it stays even during kernel upgrades.

    • @hatbabe
      @hatbabe 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's a little disappointing. More disappointing is that means their fanless isn't necessarily fanless, and evne ther rackmount, fan model isn't because that vent will just blow straight into the top of whatever is racked up underneath it. Guess it's time to get out some metal bits then a jigsaw before getting started with it.

  • @stevekristoff4365
    @stevekristoff4365 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    cute little system but with a fan on the BOTTOM they need their head examined. it's a rack mount unit so there is no way to get any air INTO the system when mounted. fan should be on the back. Also would really love to see a Xeon D series here for a firewall appliance (C3758R is just to slow for application inspection) and they need to fix ECC support.

    • @nathanabird
      @nathanabird 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I too am concerned there was nothing said about if having the fan on the bottom caused issues which I'm expecting it would

    • @magnawavezone
      @magnawavezone 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ...and no forced airflow inside the case. Can't imagine those 10G cages are going to cool properly at all with 2 or more 10GBase-T and no forced airflow. Seems like flipping the board upside down and some side to side airflow would be a much better design. [front to back better but side to side is fine for this low thermal load]

    • @headlibrarian1996
      @headlibrarian1996 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@magnawavezone The 10G ports are SFP+ so cooling assumes fiber not 10G-BaseT.

    • @headlibrarian1996
      @headlibrarian1996 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I assume this box is powerful enough to do 2.5G IDS/IPS + firewall on one port at full line rate and support 10G on the LAN. Not powerful enough for 10G or multiple 2.5G on the WAN side most likely but broadband at that speed is hard to find in the US. Would make a nice front end for an internal Ubiquiti network running a virtualized controller.
      One of the posts on this video mentions what working ECC sticks they used.

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@magnawavezoneor they could have added a big-a$$ heatsink in the back like mikrotik did, considering it has such low depth. Would've added costs but made it silent

  • @HiSk0L
    @HiSk0L 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    well thanks for finding out for me that I can't run to a SAS expander. would have loved that feature to make a small NAS box that connects to a large disk array.

  • @illstateofmind
    @illstateofmind 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wow, I bought this 2 months ago, and now there's a video for it.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yea. Baby STH came :-/

    • @illstateofmind
      @illstateofmind 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideoI get giddy every time I see a new upload from you.

  • @0xKruzr
    @0xKruzr 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love how much I/O this thing has. It's approaching my ideal for a "perfect homelab Proxmox/Ceph cluster box" -- enough cores and RAM to support OSDs, boot from SATA and have two NVMes for OSDs, plenty of at least 10G networking for Ceph inter-host and client traffic. Not taking advantage of the AST2400 as a BMC sucks, though, as does PCI Gen 3 x2 for the NVMes. For $100 more the Minisforum MS-01 still holds the crown for this I think.

  • @Renderman-Official
    @Renderman-Official 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Excellent product! Hope they will produce a N100/N200/N300/N305 version of this, that would meet all my performance needs!

    • @gowinfanless
      @gowinfanless 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We have made the 1U with Intel N100 and i3-N305 which be reviewed before

    • @Renderman-Official
      @Renderman-Official 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gowinfanless Excellent! I will go check those out. Thank you.

    • @InFeXIoUs1
      @InFeXIoUs1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@gowinfanlesslooks great. If only you ditched the 2 1 gig ports and made all 4 2.5g.

  • @init_yeah
    @init_yeah 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Looks good

  • @computersales
    @computersales 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Look neat. Having a dual power source function would be cool feature to add. Even better would be PoE power support. I am surprised they didn't make the chassis out of extruded aluminum.

  • @CheapSushi
    @CheapSushi 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Did you guys read my mind? I was literally on Amazon looking for something like this, with just enough ports for my needs and a decent value ($).

  • @thegeekno72
    @thegeekno72 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's the same motherboard as the fanless one, I bought the fanless couple weeks before its own review and when they released the 1U unit, I asked them if I could buy the case/PSU combo, which they did sell me, I just had to move the motherboard over to the other case ! Haven't soldered the leads of the PSU though, still using the barrel plug unit...

  • @userou-ig1ze
    @userou-ig1ze 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    The only thing it really needs is just a better cpu, with zenarmor you max it out pretty quickly

    • @concinnus
      @concinnus 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Problem is, while the successor C5*** chips had higher performance, they also had equally higher prices and TDPs.

    • @dohmarau
      @dohmarau 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@concinnus intel pro 155u/165u would be great alternative. lower tdp than this atom plus more performance

    • @concinnus
      @concinnus 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dohmarau For home use, even a 12*5U chip is great (as long as you're not on an OS that has issues with E Cores) -- Protectli uses them. But for people who want Supermicro-features-but-cheaper, no.

    • @gowinfanless
      @gowinfanless 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@dohmarau Better to use 165U which is faster and easy to make a 1U solution

    • @dohmarau
      @dohmarau 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@gowinfanless That was my conclusion too! 15w TDP standard, 28w peak, can be scaled down to 9w in BIOS, comes with 20 pcie lanes instead of 9... i hope your next 1 RU device has the 165u

  • @mys721tx
    @mys721tx 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    It is really surprising that Atom has a built-in X553 NIC for the SFP+! I was doing napkin math and wondering how 4x PCIe 3.0 (~30Gbps) is going to work with 40Gbps there.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That is what these are designed for. We have reviewed the C5000/P5000 series with built in 25GbE.

  • @nadtz
    @nadtz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I *just* bought myself a new router, if I had known about this I might have spent a little more and grabbed it instead. Heck I might get one anyway just because Qotom actually followed up with a rackmount version.

  • @newstandardaccount
    @newstandardaccount 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    These look to be pretty awesome but damn - I wish there was some type of distributor here in the US. On both Amazon and Aliexpress, you're looking at $40 - $50 for shipping.

  • @DonaldMolter
    @DonaldMolter 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh man I kinda want one of these to replace my Edgerouter 4 box. It's been on my list to find a solid (while energy and cost) efficient platform to replace it with to get into Opnsense but haven't found anything yet. This may be the box I pickup to replace my aging hardware.

  • @thetux0815
    @thetux0815 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Would be nice to have 2 of them in a 1U chassis (probably without the internal PSU)

    • @stevekristoff4365
      @stevekristoff4365 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      just a longer case would be needed and a 'proper' cooling design to have the fans in the back so they're not blocked when the unit is mounted. But yes two in 1U would be nice for a small redundant build.

  • @mctscott123
    @mctscott123 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The meanwell is super nice, but I'd gut it and 3d print a slot for a dell psu, it should be sweet.

  • @coinbird44
    @coinbird44 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Here we go again! 🤓

  • @lguildbz
    @lguildbz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What app are you using to monitor the statistics of the unit?

  • @colinstu
    @colinstu 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I wish they'd put two of these in this 1U case. Would be nice to have hw failover in 1U space.

    • @jamess1787
      @jamess1787 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Colin, now that just makes too much sense. 💡

    • @jamess1787
      @jamess1787 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Only thing that doesn't make sense is the location of th fan intake for a server rack. Stack a bunch of gear on top of it's self and you don't have any flow.

  • @MichaelGrnne
    @MichaelGrnne 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Would the 12VDC work as redundancy? Try to switch off the AC while the 12VDC is on.

    • @saltlakrids
      @saltlakrids 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That would be really interesting. I think it actually would. The 12V plug is on the motherboard itself, and it would just run parallel with the MeanWell PSU that is also plugged into the motherboard aswell. Current will flow through the path of least resistance. The voltages should not vary too much because that would wear out the PSUs

  • @dzmitryulasau878
    @dzmitryulasau878 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    NCA-1515A :)
    Brand new on eBay with 16GB ecc ram, sata ssd, WiFi, lte and fully functioning IPMI

  • @abb0tt
    @abb0tt 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Okay, point us to the ECC option 🙌

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      In the listings they have a few compatible modules. Also, I believe you can ask them to upgrade when purchasing.

    • @jorper2526
      @jorper2526 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Nemix 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2666Mhz ECC Ram is working fine in mine.

    • @Gnitset
      @Gnitset 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Im running 2 Kingston Server Premier 32 GB 3200MT/s DDR4 ECC CL22 SODIMM 2Rx8 Micron F - KSM32SED8/32MF in my fanless version

  • @yourpcmd
    @yourpcmd 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Make this with an N100 at the same cost and I'd put them in inventory rotation. It would beat many of the all SSD NAS appliances coming out at ridiculous prices.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      This trades the iGPU of the N100 for more physical cores (for vCPUS), QAT acceleration, 4x 10GbE, and more PCIe/ SATA I/O. Adding quad SFP+ to the N100 would mean you are not putting many drives on there

  • @louwrentius
    @louwrentius 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I wonder what the idle power usage would be of there units, ideally with a few 10g modules. ❤

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You can get it to the 20-30W range. But then maxing the CPU will only add

    • @kingneutron1
      @kingneutron1 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      My desktop version pulls ~33Watts with 2x 10Gbit and 4x 2.5Gbit ports populated (plus a fan on top running off the usb2 port)

  • @rokiesato
    @rokiesato 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    this is the first time sth shows something thats actually cheap for what you’re getting. a comparable solution would cost over $500

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I mean we showed the fanless version of this at around the same price many months ago

  • @pism0549
    @pism0549 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just want to make sure that I understand the wrap up about those 10gb ports. I would want to use this as my main firewall running opnsense and an Omada controller LXC inside Proxmox connected to my 10gb core switch. Am I right in understanding that I can't connect these 10gb ports to the switch?

  • @SeaJay_Oceans
    @SeaJay_Oceans 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sweet.... but never heard of them ...

  • @tivonh7075
    @tivonh7075 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Anyone know a distributor in europe I can buy this from?

  • @44Bigs
    @44Bigs 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Years ago I moved to an Edgerouter because of the excellent throughput when using hardware offload, but I guess this would probably be fine as a 1Gbps software router?

  • @danagoyette7932
    @danagoyette7932 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What kind of throughput can you route through it if you put an SQM rate limiter (fq-codel or CAKE) on the interface that'd be acting as a WAN? If you gradually adjust the rate limit up, does the actual throughput reach the configured rate? Some ARM machines can't even do 1 gigabit with SQM.
    On my 1-gigabit home network connection, I run OpenWRT on an x86 box with an Intel X550, with a 2.5-gigabit link to the cable modem and a 10-gigabit link to the LAN switch. I've seen some places say that gigabit internet doesn't need SQM, but I still see a huge improvement when I go from SQM disabled to SQM enabled, with it set a bit below my max steady-state upstream and downstream rates.

  • @rookie28604
    @rookie28604 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The fan facing down in a rack unit is a bit odd and may cause problems in a full rack.

  • @ronwatkins5775
    @ronwatkins5775 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im looking for a SSD/NVME NAS with 25GB SFP connections. The NAS needs to have a high level of redundancy/backup for critical data. It should be about 20TB in size. Wondering where I can find some sort of comparison tool or utility which will help me locate something like this?

  • @holeinthesest
    @holeinthesest 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You should test if you can run these off of one of those POE ethernet splitters

  • @jonathanchang4894
    @jonathanchang4894 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    if you plug in both 12v and PSU, does it essentially act as redundant PSUs in that if one fails the other one keeps things going?

    • @xt0
      @xt0 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      most likely

  • @Gnitset
    @Gnitset 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They have a bug in the hw-design on the motherboard for the sim-card slot. According to the spec a pin is supposed to be pulled to ground when no sim is present and left unconnected when sim is present. It does it the other way around. I had to remove a surface mounted component to get the 4g-modem to understand that there actually were a sim-card installed.

    • @DavidPritt-xh7qq
      @DavidPritt-xh7qq วันที่ผ่านมา

      Could you please publish the change you did as I too want to use the SIM in this device.

    • @Gnitset
      @Gnitset วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DavidPritt-xh7qq I can't show since it is in operation at the moment. But if you take a picture of the motherboard showing the SIM card slot and the pci-e connector underneath the m2-ssd-slots, then I can point it out.

    • @DavidPritt-xh7qq
      @DavidPritt-xh7qq วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can take a picture, what is the best way to send it to you?

    • @Gnitset
      @Gnitset 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@DavidPritt-xh7qq I have a gmail with the same username

  • @LockonKubi
    @LockonKubi 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if you could cram all that hardware into a 2u but half width device. That'd make a good fanned version for people who don't have a rack (easier to fit on a bookshelf or whatever) or put in a coupler to still mount two of them in a full width 2u space. Also maybe a bigger (and user replaceable) fan.

  • @VaticanTop
    @VaticanTop 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Is this or the Minisforum MS-01 better for a 10gb router with OPNsense /pfSense?

    • @m6kzt
      @m6kzt 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The ms-01 is way way better this doesn't even come close.

  • @YKSGuy
    @YKSGuy 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Fan is in the wrong spot for a rack mount device.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Agreed, the better option would be to make a larger heatpipe heatsink then blow air through the chassis. But that is a costly custom part for a sub $300 unit.

    • @YKSGuy
      @YKSGuy 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo I would argue it defeats the point of asking for a rack design if you can't actually place something above or below it.. Same goes for that "Passive" one you reviewed a while back.

  • @JFlogerzi
    @JFlogerzi 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Plex Transcoding would be my only concern. And the lack of cheap network rack depth SATA expansion bays.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Plex you would do on another machine, not this one.

    • @JFlogerzi
      @JFlogerzi 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo boo plus I am to invested in unifi ATM 😉

  • @thetux0815
    @thetux0815 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'll be receiving my new pfsense box with 4x2.5g and 2x 10g sfp+ ports im the mail by the end of this week. Powered by am intel n100. Wonder how they stack up in comparison. Would you go with the n100 or c3558 for a pure pfsense / opnsense with 10g?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      C3558

    • @AzN_devil
      @AzN_devil 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      the n100 is fine for switching applications but dont bother using it as a router + firewall (pfsense) unless your wan link is slow...
      my n100 maxes out when torrenting at around 35MB throughput

  • @isaacaymerich2741
    @isaacaymerich2741 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want to see a ceph cluster running on this with this 4x10gbe

  • @ethanwaldo1480
    @ethanwaldo1480 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just wish it had a PCIe x16 3.0 or 4.0 slot for 100Gbe, then it'd be perfect for a firewall.

  • @ryanpek
    @ryanpek 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why is there no unit with proper back to front cooling. Who mounts a switch that the fan blows down in a rack ?
    Switches get mounted in the back of the rack so you can run cables. So air needs to flow front to back.

  • @hquest
    @hquest 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For comparison, the Cisco Firepower FPR-1010 device runs on a 4 core Atom C3558 with 8Gb DDR4, 200Gb SATA SSD, and 8+1 1Gbps NICs (4x X553, 1x I211), so this device is more than capable to be a robust, enterprise grade firewall. Not for a datacenter, though, but for remote offices it can withstand a lot of abuse.

  • @AndreasS1891
    @AndreasS1891 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Leider gibt nach wie vor keine einfache Möglichkeit nach DE (Germany) zu bestellen. Mit Umwege dann etwa 300+150 = 450$ für den Barbone :( / aber selbst über den Umweg klappt es momentan nicht nach De zu bestellen. Wäre Klasse wenn der Hersteller irgendwann auch mal in die EU / DE liefern würde.

  • @rtm38
    @rtm38 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great poweshell gui software, can i know whats is this?

  • @MichaelDeBlasis1369
    @MichaelDeBlasis1369 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Noice!!

  • @trendingtopicresearch9440
    @trendingtopicresearch9440 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does 18.6Gbps routing capacity mean that when all 4 10Gb ports are used, the effectively run at half the speed?

  • @DavidNiedbala
    @DavidNiedbala 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have an extra 4bay USB C qnap and was wondering if I could use the usb c to add storage?

  • @ProjectUnknowEddi
    @ProjectUnknowEddi 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean... I still use a (not checkpoint anymore :P ) 1u with a G1820 as ASN router. Especially as I can't effort more then 1x 1G ports of carriers in the datacenter. But if they would offer me a free/same price 10g port uplink/IPX, that's a mashine that I would think about ^^

  •  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm using the non rack-mount version and unfortunatly I don't achieve 10gbps over SMB. I have a fast enough NVMe installed and as OS I'm using OpenMediaVault which is based on Debian. Maybe this is related to the bug you mention in the video at the end.

    • @magnawavezone
      @magnawavezone 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      samba needs a lot of single core performance [at least to saturate 10G for a single client]. I'd guess the cpu is lightly insufficient being an gen older e-core.

    •  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@magnawavezone Yeah, that sounds reasonable. If I remember correctly, I also did an iperf3 test and could achieve 10 gig on one side, but the other side was only about 4-5 gig.

  • @brack86svo
    @brack86svo 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So you can't hook the SFP+ port to switch using Pfsense?

  • @Warrigt
    @Warrigt 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Is this fan noise related to being ran sitting on a table with no gap for air to escape?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      We ran the top one with the bottom off but present as well to validate.

  • @Galileocrafter
    @Galileocrafter 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is there anything affordable out for those Atom P5000 / C5000 series CPUs ? Would love something like that for even higher performance and newer QAT.

  • @OS2tuxbird
    @OS2tuxbird 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I prefer the CPU be an AMD Zen 3 😃 and RJ-45 that are multi-gigabyte (10, 5, 2.5, 1, 0.1 and 0.01Ghz). I suppose I have a long wait if ever 😆 Those "Mean Well" power supplies from Taiwan are very well designed and built (along with comprehensive documentation online). I've seen them used in mission critical VSAT satellite modems.

  • @iviaimer1
    @iviaimer1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have 5Gbps ethernet, are there any good options for a router/firewall that allows 5 or 10gbps ethernet?
    The options i have found are very expensive. Also running 10Gbps nics in 2 PCs, everything else on the network is 1Gbps.

  • @kopspijker3515
    @kopspijker3515 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Given the external input and an internal PSU. Can both be used at the same time?

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      E.g. for a battery ups to avoid power loses, yeah

  • @AndrewFrink
    @AndrewFrink 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Are there m.2 form factor video encode/decode cards?

  • @jacksquat55
    @jacksquat55 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Anyone else notice that the power connector should have been located on the back panel, not the front?

  • @guerrierim15
    @guerrierim15 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Uh oh. I got the fanless version coming in soon and got 64gb of ecc rdimm memory to go with it. You said you were having issues with ecc memory though? Could you elaborate?
    I specifically got this kit:
    A-Tech 64GB Kit (2x32GB) DDR4 2400MHz PC4-19200 ECC RDIMM 2Rx4 1.2V Dual Rank ECC Registered DIMM
    Awesome video as always!

    • @Gnitset
      @Gnitset 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I dont think it will accept reg-ecc. Im running 2 kingston KSM32SED8/32MF in my fanless version

  • @ecybernard-com
    @ecybernard-com 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    You asked what I wanted to see. I want to see a real NIC SPF+ 4 port NIC like the intel 700 series that just works of out the box with proxmox etc. Even after the latest upgrade to proxmox 8.8 the intel 553 nic still doesn't work properly out the box. I still have to recompile 5.20.3 and fix compilation errors to get the 553 NIC working!!!

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Put it in the video but I made a formal request to Intel and followed up but no response

    • @ecybernard-com
      @ecybernard-com 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Intel has released driver 5.20.9 which at least compiles and installs. However I can only get gigabit speeds from it and not 10 Gbps

    • @m6kzt
      @m6kzt 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Think you should have made it clear that the x533 will not work on Linux 6 kernels out the box, try testing with latest proxmox 8.

  • @BrianThomas
    @BrianThomas 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What I'd like to see is a drive cage inside the box to support the 1 or 2 3.5inch drivers, so why make the user makeshift a way to make it fit? Give us a inexpensive solution that works nicely.

    • @gutschke
      @gutschke 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The fan-less model has mounting points for 2½" drives. But the on-board voltage regulators might be too limited, and the lack of active cooling is a problem when you start sticking additional power-hungry devices into this computer.

  • @joshhardin666
    @joshhardin666 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the fan appears to be on the bottom of the unit, right? how does that work? - USUALLY with rack mount configurations (even the 2 unit configuration shown on this video), you're right up against the top of the server below... so how do you get airflow to that fan? - wouldn't it make more sense to do a front to back airflow (like most servers) or a side to side airflow (like most switches)? I'm afraid that if i buy this, i'm going to kill it by not having enough airflow to feed the cpu fan. is this concern warranted? I currently have the fanless version running pfsense to run my network (firewalling and routing between 4 10g vlans with a 4 port 10g sfp+ lagg to my netgear 10g base-t switch (that happens to have 4 sfp+ ports) and I was seriously considering selling it and picking up one or two of these 1u units instead. what do ya'll think?

  • @davemorales1064
    @davemorales1064 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    U can use sata drives on sas backplane but not vs

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not only the backplane matters, but also the controller

  • @ZoeyR86
    @ZoeyR86 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want a 2 or 3u with 1 pcie slot for a half height gpu and 5bays for plex / jelly

  • @phenry5083
    @phenry5083 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do the NICs support multi queue?

  • @conraadvandenberg
    @conraadvandenberg 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is the benchmark/CPU info program that you are using?

    • @Stev.3n
      @Stev.3n 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Looks to be some type of custom Powershell script to pull those metrics and display it graphically. Can't find much more info about it unfortunately because it looks very handy.

  • @B-a_s-H
    @B-a_s-H 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Which SFP+ 10GB (copper) modules are compatible with this? And how is the power consumption with 4 of those installed?

  • @magneticshrimp7429
    @magneticshrimp7429 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    X553 has given me quite a bit of grief, but mostly only when linking to Mellanox/Nvidia based cards and switches (fiber and DAC). The X553 ports will lock up so hard even a reboot and even a poweroff/poweron through the BMC wont fix it, had to physically yank the power a few times to get the port back up.

    • @magneticshrimp7429
      @magneticshrimp7429 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is, AFTER moving it to a port it usually works with and it will stay borked. Gotta yank the power to get it back working with known compatible link partners.

    • @m6kzt
      @m6kzt 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The ixgbe driver is broken on all Linux 6 kernels for the X533, sadly Patrick thinks it's just a few switches.. it's not, so there's gonna be a lot of disappointed and unhappy people buying these and stuff like Proxmox 8 with version 6 kernel won't bring these 10 gig ports UP, don't believe me go look at the proxmox forums or the kernel mailing list!

  • @casperghst42
    @casperghst42 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why on earth did they decide to put the power button on the back - it is an rack mounted box. And everyone find that coll..😅

  • @eloimartinez9446
    @eloimartinez9446 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What’s the idle power consumption?

  • @syjeklye
    @syjeklye 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is that powershell system monitor @13:35 ?

  • @mofoq
    @mofoq 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wait, where's the link to the potential intel driver "errata?" 🤔

  • @jwo7777777
    @jwo7777777 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have the small, fanless version. It chokes hard on paperlessngx.

  • @trisymphony
    @trisymphony 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Now if they only sold it in my region...

  • @TheChadXperience909
    @TheChadXperience909 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The reason for the weak power supply is because there's no active cooling on the PSU. That means it's probably not such a good idea to install this somewhere that gets very warm... Like, inside a server rack. Considering that would also block the CPU fan, I REALLY wouldn't want to risk that. Especially, with all those 10gbps SFP+ cages. Plus, Patrick Attesteach suggests adding internal SATA SSDs? Ummm... I guess, he likes to live dangerously? I mean, in the studio, sure. But, a hot server rack inside a smart closet? Have fun with those waranty claims! Oh, who am I kidding? I've never heard of this company, and who knows if they'll honor their waranty.

  • @1990Cookie
    @1990Cookie 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Great, another one we cant ship to germany...

    • @matthiaslange392
      @matthiaslange392 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      why not? Years ago i bought two quotom fanless units directly from quotom, paid with paypal. no problems.

    • @Phil-D83
      @Phil-D83 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Order it without the psu.

    • @1990Cookie
      @1990Cookie 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@matthiaslange392 If I go to AliExpress or Amazon, athey say they cant ship to my country..

    • @1990Cookie
      @1990Cookie 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Phil-D83 @matthiaslange392 If I go to AliExpress or Amazon, athey say they cant ship to my country..

  • @OVERKILL_PINBALL
    @OVERKILL_PINBALL 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can this ATOM CPU drive storage performance enough to saturate a 10Gbps link? To me it doesn't seem like it would be a viable choice for fast storage. I could be wrong but I am guessing the performance would be similar to the performance you might expect from an external USB 3.0 drive and no where near capable of 10Gbps.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why? This is the same CPU in the TrueNAS Mini XL+

    • @OVERKILL_PINBALL
      @OVERKILL_PINBALL 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo This CPU can saturate a 10Gbps link? I didn't think an Atom could.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@OVERKILL_PINBALL Why would it not be able to? The Netgate 8200 Max uses the same Atom SoC and can forward over 18Gbps of traffic.

  • @HelloHelloXD
    @HelloHelloXD 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    16:51 are there any rack mountable versions of these?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There is a 4-bay rackmount that QNAP has as well.

    • @HelloHelloXD
      @HelloHelloXD 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo great, thanks!

  • @g.s.3389
    @g.s.3389 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    can I put sfp connector in the sfp(+) ?

    • @deadlymarsupial1236
      @deadlymarsupial1236 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, you can put an SFP module in an SFP+ port, which is backwards compatible. Be careful with some brand equipment that refuse to work with other brand modules.

  • @kingneutron1
    @kingneutron1 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I would buy this in a HEARTBEAT, but Proxmox 8.x has a broken ixgbe driver in the 6.x kernel series! If they had used something other than the X553 10GbE SFP+ ports, this would be an instant sale. I already bought the previous desktop version and it works great, but I have to keep the Proxmox kernel at 5.15 - otherwise no 10Gig-E!!

    • @intrax2tv
      @intrax2tv 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Seems @larsla (see commment above) did some driver patching and has it running in Proxmox 8.x !

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I brought it up with Intel more than a month ago.

  • @ziozzot
    @ziozzot 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So a connection to a switch doesn't work with proxmox =?

  • @SpoonHurler
    @SpoonHurler 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would using an SFF8087 to esata based 1u enclosure be viable?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Both are SATA so it should work, but I cannot recall seeing that cable unless you are thinking of just a SFF-8087 to 7-pin SATA breakout and then using a single lane?

    • @SpoonHurler
      @SpoonHurler 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo my crazy thought was using those normally internal sff to 4x sata to basically create 4 pools of 1u external drives for cold, write once type stuff maybe. Probably just would need an esata to sata connector.
      Edit: This is a terrible idea. These enclosures are more expensive than 1u server chassis with 4 bays.

  • @jgdudex7
    @jgdudex7 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    10in rack version when?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We have like 3x 10” racks in the studio now