Field Testing RIT Dyed UCP! (Long Version)
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- Field Testing RIT Dyed UCP! (Long Version)
Howdy Folks! I was able to get the UCP Surplus I RIT Dyed to the woods for "Field Testing. I was VERY PLEASED with the results! This is the long version of the video and contains much more detail information and test footage than the short version. Check out the effectiveness of both color formulas for yourself.
Here are the formulas I produced for 3lbs. of fabric (6 gallon dye bath)
Olive Drab:
1 Bottle Camel (All Purpose Dye)
1 Bottle Kelly Green (All Purpose Dye)
1/2 Cup (1/2 bottle) Dark Brown (All Purpose Dye)
2 Cups Distilled White Vinegar
Coyote Brown
1 Bottle Tan (All Purpose Dye)
1 Bottle Camel (All Purpose Dye)
2 Tbs Purple (All Purpose Dye)
2 cups Distilled White Vinegar
Links:
Dark Brown (All Purpose Dye) 2 pack: amzn.to/440o0bL
Camel 2 (All Purpose Dye) pack: amzn.to/4azKzqv
Kelly Green (All Purpose Dye) 2 pack: amzn.to/3xIxjRC
Tan (All Purpose Dye) 2 pack: amzn.to/4aWgTmX
Purple (All Purpose Dye) 1 bottle: amzn.to/3vZhUMf
RIT Formula pages:
Olive Drab: www.ritdye.com...
Coyote Brown: www.ritdye.com...
RIT Dyeing Directions: www.ritdye.com...
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Told you I'd watch both 🤣
The coyote really did turn out good, even in a good amount of greens.
The OD looks decent too and I can easily see being even better as greens darken and/or more shade is available when overhead plants start filling in.
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Coyote really surprised me. I believe it will be effective through Summer and well into early fall.
I still believe MTP or whatever you colonials call it (😂😉) is far too light for most non-desert environments especially at night. Both the olive drab and coyote dyes worked extremely well, better than multicam(?). Loved the ATACS-FG which has always been a particular favourite of mine. I dye British MTP smocks to achieve a darker olive colour which suits life in the Outer Hebrides of Scotland better. I intend to dye some DPM Desert pattern kit and an MTP respirator pack OG now following your excellent example. Thank you.
My time in the forests of northern England and southern Scotland was a real eye opener for me. The forests are so dark, they seem to consume light. Most all of the photos I took, looked horrible. I could not document the depth of the dark green. It was kind of creepy. I guess I can see where many of the old legends (or earned beliefs) come from. RIT OD would work well there. I loved ATACS FG, I can't believe they discontinued it????? Blessings Brother! Stay Vigilant!
@@boonedockery7220 always brother!
The Crye Multicam and its MTP and OCP cousins are targeted to regions where the greens are generally lighter, and there is also a lot more lighter brown or greys. The old British DPM colour scheme was designed for British and European woodland environments, but even that changed with the advent of better night vision, later versions appearing somewhat darker in normal light due to the IR dyes used. Other countries using DPM had different palates to suit their environments. That's a limitation of any camo, it can't work adequately everywhere.
This is a phenomenally thorough video. Thank you so much for doing all this work!
Thank You VERY Much! I am very pleased you enjoyed it!
Thank you for the long version! This stuff is Outstanding! I've been messing around with my own RIT formulas. I have achieved colours resembling South African brown, Ranger Green, brown bess, OD green, foliage, etc. The principals of camouflage that I subscribe to are to break up identifiable big shapes into unidentifiable smaller shapes. By mixing all of the various earth toned colours I have achieved together...works perfectly. I might add that I am into this for around 260.00 including the dye. Large Ruck, Patrol pack, 10 mag pouches, rifleman kit, sustainment pouches, plus about a dozen others. This gear is incredible. Well built, comfortable, and affordable. If you are a minuteman on a budget, look no further.
I did the OD recipe on my old surplus medium ALICE pack and it turned out great. It was sun bleached really bad to a yellow'ish color when I got it 20 years ago. I ended up spray painting it back then, but it made the material really stiff and rough feeling (especially the straps). It was also more tan'ish than green also. I recently took it outside and pressure washed the pack to remove the paint. I scraped some places that I missed with a knife and did a couple of boiling hot water baths remove the remaining paint that I missed. It wasn't perfect, but close enough.
I did a 3 gallon mix so I halved your recipe from the description. I heated the water in a large pot on the stove to about 170 degrees and dumped it in a 5 gallon bucket. 1/2 bottle (4oz) of kelly green, 1/2 bottle (4oz) of camel, and 1/4 bottle (2oz) of dark brown. I also added 1 tsp of dawn dish soap. Stirred the mixture with a large stainless spoon and placed the pack in. I mashed the pack down into the mixture and mashed it in various places to keep the water and dye moving around. After 10 minutes, I removed the pack from the bucket and rinsed it in the stainless steel sink with cold water until the water was mostly clear (5-10 minutes). After that, I just squeezed most of the water out and tossed it in the dryer for about 30-40 minutes. Couldn't be happier with it!
I gotta say- the UCP dyed in walnut still looks the best. Perhaps we should try walnut dyin nylon again? My UCP M65 I Rit dyed in Camel came out a hair more brown than your UCP ruck. Straight camel dye seems to yield a more brown than yellow-green result, IMO.
That's so weird the opposite has been true for me: anything i dyed with Rit Camel turned out anywhere from a bright yellow to a dark tan on the white parts whereas the grey and the webbing yielded the same results as for Apple Green. Overall like the results but so inconsistent i never know what to expect when using Camel
@@thatpackguy probably had more to do with the fabric composition. M65 is a cotton/poly blend.
The coyote Rit does appear to be quit green. That is interesting.
Hit it with a splash of black and red and you could use it very effectively in a pine forest or black spruce skag.
The OD looks good but I think the coyote blends a little better, the walnut definitely works tho and would be great in the fall.
Yes I agree!
According to MY old eyes. it looks like the coyote blends in better with your spring foliage than the OD stuff. OD probably be better in summer..? Nice to have options.
YUP! Coyote is my pick as of now. I'll be testing them both through to Fall.
I like the olive drab best.
Love black walnut dye the best. ATACS is great also.
Assuming everything in the short version was included here I just opted for the full version ...digging it
Groovy! Thank You!
If you're looking for ABU pattern, best bet is a Goodwill near an AFB, or an Airmen's Attic on the AFB.
@kerbalairforce8802 : Yeah, Right! That's true and good I²( Information and Intelligence) , because, here at DMAFB in Tucson, AZ, there's an Airman's Attic , and ,a Goodwill near Craycroft ,that sells USAF Airman Battle Uniform( ABU) , and, I Myself AM Prior Service Enlisted Marine Corps and Army.
Being a retired Airman, I appreciate the ABU tiger stripe pattern. Just hate the color palette... I'm near a couple of AFBs so I'm on the the hunt for ABU nylon gear and do the FDE dye. I think it will bring out the tiger stripe better.
I wore the ABU uniform for ten years and I didn't like the blouse. It was the standard 4 chest pocket design. When I put on any of my gear I couldn't really access those pockets. Where as the trousers standard 4 pocket around the waist. Two cargo pockes w/an inner pocket (good for cell phones), and two ankle pockets (good for folding knives and multi tools).
NO Velcro!!!
On the blouse I wish we had pockets on the sleeves, but enlisted sew our rank on the sleeves.
Great videos!!!
Thank You! I just ordered two sets of ABU! Video to come in the near future!
I wonder how my UCP webbing and ABU clothing would dye in the same tub. If the nylon takes the dye more readily, maybe I should do the uniform first, then the webbing afterwards.
@@kerbalairforce8802 I that'll be cool. Match the clothing to the web gear.... I there are some ABU patterened web gear out there. Just not as prevalent as the Army stuff.
I’m a camo junkie!!😂😂 OD and FDR. Eastern pines camo of choice for me. Just standard woodland also. Basically my woods look like a dark deep jungle 🎉🎉
Awesome! Before my house fire I had around 20 complete sets of different camouflage uniforms (contemporary and historical). I had both Facebook and Instagram accounts (BEFORE The The Current Insanity) which I posted camo comparisons in various environments and seasons. It was a lot of fun. Sadly the fire consumed nearly all of them.
@@boonedockery7220 dang that’s aweful!
Another great video, keep up the good work creating the best content on TH-cam! Always very informative and interesting!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH! I DEEPLY APPRECIATE THAT!
Thank you for this video. I too tried dyeing some ACUs Coyote Brown back in 2017, Mine came out burnt orange and grey, or wine red. Ironically, since I hunt in an oak forest in the fall, these colors worked great for my area. I have more ACUs and will try some of your dye formulas out, to see how well they work.
Good Luck! I hope they turn out great!
Came here from the long version to see what you come up with. Let’s roll!
YeeHaw!!!!
An experiment with a hodgepodge of dye colors would be a good add. For examole, pouches in coyote and olive (and ACU and dyemore peacock green) on a walnut FLC. It's not "uniform" but neither is the forest.
I have been mixing the Coyote and Olive Drab pouches and IMO It works much better in the woods right now.
Man Great job blow my freaking mind soooo many ideas with mix camo pattern set ups multi bottoms all camel upper set up. Walnut lower with camel upper set up. Live in same terrain/ landscape. Olive would be great in more summer season. Hunting season ideas too
This is the kind of response I LOVE! I don't want to assign projects, I want to start explorations. I want what I share to be a spark someone else turns into an inferno!
Hobby Lobby sells Rit Dyes. Cheaper than Amazon. Now, with the military equipment, just the regular fabric dye may not be effective enough to dye the nylon material. You’ll want to buy the Rit dye for synthetic fabrics, to get the nylon material to take the coloring you’re trying to achieve.
Yes, they have a good selection of dyes. I found that the khaki works great for ACUs. Definitely cheaper than Amazon. 👍🏼
Brigade Quartermaster sells camouflage pattern Velcro patches that cover the Velcro patch on the uniform sleeves.
Walking around I can't tell one is better than another. If you were hold down not moving a few yards in you'd not be seen. I'd be curious how they test under IR.
Push pause occasionally.
Great info. I have a ucp gortex jacket my cousin gave me. I love it except the pattern.. I got 5 gallon pales of walnuts, gonna have to try this dye gig. Thx!
Great stuff doc!
Thank you kindly!
Three color dessert dyes real good
The fabric takes Dye beautifully! And its Very Comfortable!
I have heard Taupe gives a great brown that blends in well. I am going to try it on some gear this weekend.
Taupe is an awesome neutral color. It would be considered a warm gray or "French" gray in the art world. It's an awesome base tone to build numerous camo patterns.
Another great video, Boonie. The walnut dyed UCP’s still blend in well with everything where you’re at. Over time and washing cycles, the colors will lighten up. With the dye jobs I’ve done, I’m going to have to re-dye my uniforms. This time I’m going to use the synthetic material dyes.
All of the dye jobs look good. I've been dyeing ACU packs, and pouches for a little bit. I'm hopefully dyeing some more soon, and I'm tweaking the formula a bit to see what I get.
Awesome!
As a man who lives in Northern Arizona, we have 4 seasons and many different types of areas that change, but knowing your time and year you can wear many types of camps but a good Atac Fg works good in most areas.
Agreed! I love Atac FG, from my understanding Atacs discontinued the origional FG pattern. I have found a lot of Russian made FG clothing and gear, but I haven't gotten around to purchasing any yet.
The coyote dyed UCP turned out great. The OD was good too and much better than UCP….but it did appear to be a little too dark.
It may have worked better since the original water proofing was washed off to have used a couple qts (or maybe a couple gallons) of naphtha solvent and 2-3 tubes of silicon to water proof the bags, I hear that some PU coating wont allow the silicone to take hold well on polyester material but I think Nylon materials that do not have a PU coatings, so that may have worked better for you. But basically you empty the content of the silicon tubes into the straight naphtha and stir it with a spoon until its mixed well, and soak the packs in it until they are fully saturated, then hang them out to dry for at least 24hrs. after this the fabrics are supposed to be fully water proof. I've seen this method used on old cotton bed sheets with excellent results for use as fully water proof tarps.
Like the looks of the coyote brown best myself. I wonder if throwing a few walnuts in the dye bath would help bring out the brown a bit more?
I'll add that experiment to the list....
Maybe substitute in a darker brown for camel in the coyote brown/OD formula to give the nylon a browner hue?
Walnut dye, I guess was on pants and shirt as well,
Yes.
Thank you for dropping some colored knowledge on me my brother!! I like both of them but if I’m honest I love the way the black walnut dyed turned out. I’m not saying I don’t like these but the way the walnut color came out with the darker earthy tones on the Velcro areas I just really liked it. Keep up the great videos brother and please don’t think because I don’t comment a lot I ain’t watching because I am!! Just some days my brain can’t muster up a comment so I just leave you a like 😂😂😂😂 love ya brother and God bless you and the family Timms❤️🙏😁👍
Awesome video!
For fabric and even pouches,etc I also add about a handful of regular salt. Its supposed to help fabric take the dye?
Yes. When I dye fabrics, particularly synthetic fabric blends like the ACUs, I add a cup of salt. However, you want to be careful here. The salt you want is so-called "free-flowing" salt, which does NOT contain iodine. If you use common iodinized table salt, what you dye may pick up a faint blue or violet cast from the iodine interacting with the dyes.
Well the OD doesn’t look as GREEN in the woods as it did in the yard. Unless you’re going to morale patch, I’d seam rip the Velcro patches off the sleeves of your blouses for the reasons you gave. Another comment stated he used straight camel on his UCP. Wonder how that turned out.
I just haven't gotten around to removing the velcro. There is so much of it, and it's kind of a pain to seam rip all of it. It has been and is STILL on my to do list. Straight camel looks good, but, I thinks adding a dash of purple would make it look more like a FDE.
@boonedockery7220 Probably. I bought a fruit of the loom tactical T pack once. There was one that was kinda purple, so I pawned it off on the offspring. Some time later, he walked down the hall in a perfect coyote colored T. Where'd you get the shirt? It's the purple one you gave me.
I'm going to try dying some UCP stuff today, we'll see how it turns out. Has anyone here tried using RIT color remover on UCP first, then dying a solid color like Coyote? Any luck with it?
Ballcaps have 0 ability to camoflage. Regardless of camo pattern, the shape is a dead giveaway. I noticed that in a On3 video.
Whats with the vinegar???
It helps to set the dye into the fabric.
@niteshad9 cheers for your time and reply I've a jacket that I'm wanting2 dye
Whats the smock/jacket your wearing??
It is the SORD Tactical Smock. They discontinued it several years ago.
@kerbalairforce8802 : So True, Air Force. My Identical Twin Brother Lives In Tucson ( Pima County), Arizona And I Lived With Him From August 2020 Until December 2023 Before Moving Back to Tampa ( Hillsborough County), Florida.
What is that multicam smock?