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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2024
- Many of you have experienced pimping either in CRNA school or medical school. Today let's talk about how I experienced it and how I dealt with it.
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Pimping has narcissism written all over it. Shaming someone is never the answer. But I guess it gives you tough skin. They always pacify narcissistic behavior
Ooooh weeee!!! FACTZ
I disagree, sometimes you need to bend the bamboo so as not to broken if a typhoon comes.
Loved this post! I would like to see a mock pimping scenario with some really good questions being put out there
Noted!
@@BoltCRNA where’s the mock scenario at … asking 3yrs later. Side note: this was common in the CTICU I oriented on
Just another name for hazing.
I appreciate this video so much. So often the “glamorous” side of things gets more emphasis, but you really pulled the blinders off with this one. Thank you for your commitment to not be a pimper.
Okay now please make a video on the CRNA assessment bc I’m scared now 😂
It’s so important that something positive comes from these experiences!! I’m graduating in August, and I’ve had some nightmare experiences. But one of my most significant learning moments was when my CRNA said, “ I want your wrong answers too, so we can improve on your weaknesses.” This took so much pressure away from the situation, and I still recall what I learned from that day. I know this is how I’ll treat my students after I graduate.
Truth. Thank you for sharing.
I am an anaesthetic assistant in the OR. I have been pimped on a few occasions. All they questions I have been asked are really difficult and if you don't know the answer they just seem to ask more difficult questions. You just feel horrible after the shift is over. Some of the anaesthetic doctors that I worked with would ask me questions that would ask their anaesthetic trainee. e.g. the pharmacological mechanism of anaesthetic drugs. what is the MAC of certain inhalational drugs. anatomy questions relating to certain regional blocks.
Bolt, as I watch more and more of your videos, I'm garnering the impression that you and I have a lot similar. I'm about your age (32), I'm graduating my program soon, have a lot of the same viewpoints as you, and I've had very similar situations in regards to pimping. I also have vowed similarly for when I'm practicing with how I will teach students in the future. There is simply a better way to teach than pimping. It is inferior and belittling. Cheers!
Right on
Is this practice common in RN programs, or mostly for CRNA?
I got rapid fire quick questioning by an MDA while observing in the OR while in school for my BSN, I wouldn’t have guessed that was what was happening at the time. He was nice, but the questions got progressively more in depth, and it did feel like we were being grilled a little bit as students. It was questions all about the PNS, alpha 1&2 & Beta 1&2 and meds that could help in various scenarios involving these receptors and thankfully we’d recently studied and I was able to answer many quickly, but when it got to anesthetic meds I quickly conceded I didn’t know because we don’t study those. He was a good teacher and seemed to enjoy teaching, but it definitely felt like being grilled all while he was doing a spinal block for an OB pt in the OR with just me another student, the pt, and himself 😅.
Oh yes, just wait until it's you trying to place the spinal, sweating in your sterile garb and the provider actually getting upset when you don't know.
Great post. Reminds me of my husband's stories of his Plebe year at U.S. Naval Academy. Surviving it, he said, helped him. No matter how bad a situation was, even a fire fight in Vietnam, he would think "at least this is not as bad as Plebe year." Like you, he said he never wanted to be that kind of Midshipman. Forewarned is fore armed.
There are better ways to teach . I always tell them at the beginning of the day, there are no dumb questions when you’re taking care of human beings. I ask questions too, but at times where they aren’t doing a dangerous new skill. I also let them know if they get the wrong answer it is ok. That’s why they are in school. Sometimes they ask me questions that I have forgotten and we look it up together.
What he’s explaining seems more like hazing?
nailed it.
I never knew the term but I have seen older professors doing this
I think there’s a fine balance between reasonably/fairly putting someone on the spot in training and shaming them. Those experiences harden people for sure but it poses the risk of perpetuating that culture. I view it as multiple routes to get to the same destination. In the end I think people learn best when they are self motivated and are given the tools they need to enhance their knowledge. Also, some people are just plain not meant to be teachers in any capacity.
The first few months of anesthesia clinical training as a SRNA are awful and I wouldn't wish them on anyone. Without a doubt you need some tough skin.
Truth.
Even so, I do not regret my career choice and I have yet to talk to a CRNA who wishes they would chosen a different career path.
Ha! I was more under the impression that pimping med students, residents and SRNAs referred to that as being used as cheap labor 🤔
Not sure if i can pimped if I always tell everyone I don't have a clue what im doing. I obviously do, but I like to be viewed as someone NOT to go to for information..
The worst thing you can say when getting pimped is "dunno". They will throw you out of the room and send you to go research it and come back with a paper written about it.
@@BoltCRNA Isn't the point of it is to get you to say you don't know? You have lost the battle before it even started. It's a game you can't really win by design.
That’s very wrong.
I really hope these inappropriate people that is doing this pimping thing have a lot of legal issues to force them to stop BS.
I don’t like that and I think people should react against these abusive situation.
This is not teaching, that’s ridiculous.
I think make sense people recording this situation and start using some evidence for a legal process.
There is a huge difference between suggesting bad studies that they are not ready for that thing or position, than humiliating people.
I am sorry about this situation.
That’s ridiculous, what did your instructors think about it?
They do it too.
Whew! Pimpin’ ain't easy🥴. No, but that is terrible. I don't know how I would react in those situations.
this sounds like they are intentionally trying to get students to quit so the CRNA field doesn't get saturated
This is horrible experience and this shouldn't happen.
Most medical providers go through this. It's almost impossible to go through without Pimping. Some people think it a way to make you think on your feet when a patient's life is on the line.
I will say that while I understand the benefits of pimping for educational purposes, it shouldn't go as far as insulting the student's intelligence and belittling them. At that point, it's blatant that it's a personal attack, which crosses the line of unprofessionalism. These higher ups who do this better be careful because they may mess around with the wrong student one day, whose mommy and daddy have influence in the judicial branch lol
Sometimes you need to bend the bamboo so as it learns not to break when a storm comes. I remember my batchmate saying to me " Nobody rattles my feathers " after medical clerkship. I bet you all want a doctor who doesn't break under pressure in saving you from death!
You’re awesome!!!
You are!
Lololol...Real pimping is quite a feeling. It makes you feel so small especially in front of like 10 people in the OR all looking at you.
Theses stories are scary LOL
P.I.M.P./PIMPING= Put In My Place.
Speaking of pimping....The ASA is currently lobbying for CRNA’s to be demoted to ICU nurses during this “pandemic”, and expanding the scope of practice for Anesthesiologists Assistants.....
Lol good luck
Wow this isn’t cool at all!
Oh wow XD reminds me of Scrubs
Where do you think they got it from?!
@@BoltCRNA Right? XD
oh dear, I did not know I've been pimping my medical medical and dental students. hahaha