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I haven't had any experience with their products, but they seem to be a direct competitor with canada goose after looking at their website. Similar product types & styles, similar fill power, similar pricing. At first glance they seem like they would essentially sell the exact same products, but with a different brand and slightly higher down fill power on average than canada goose.
Arcteryx tends to be the most open about their products. They're almost always designed for function/intended use in mind. As such, they'll always have a level of respect from me. Canada Goose is in the process of transitioning from a functional outdoors brand to a fashion brand. We still see some of the hallmarks of a function brand but they're already starting to cut corners by using an inferior material while drastically increasing prices. The irony of calling yourself Canada Goose and using Duck down is not lost on me.
"Canada Duck" doesn't have the cache to it. Agree with you on Arcteryx, been wearing it for about 20 years and overall I think it's the best you can buy.
Great review on Canada Goose! Pretty much hit the nail on all the points. As others have mentioned check out OSC which is what Canada Goose should be at these prices, but nowadays they've become the universal logo of luxury winter. Arc'teryx is pretty sweet and I might have to get a shell from them.
Thanks for watching! My next jacket probably will be something along the lines of osc so I'm definitely keeping it in mind. The Arc'teryx shells are no joke, they're solid and durable. Hope you like and subscribe for more content in the future.
I used to be a 1-jacket guy, always looking for that perfect jacket...then I realised that it doesn't exist. Water resistance, wind resistance, thermal insulation, breathability, style...there's trade-offs, you can't have it all. So I bought an Arcteryx shell and gave layering a go and it's just incredible. I love my Beta LT and I'll never go back.
There's a lot of truth to what you're saying about the 1 piece jacket. I'm finding it hard to have everything you listed. Style seems to be the first to go out the door followed by wind resistance. You're probably right, the perfect jacket may not exist, but I'll still be on the lookout in case it pops up eventually. Hope you like and subscribe for more content. Thanks for watching Trevor.
Honestly, Thank you for this review. I live in Chicago and desperately needed a light, versatile jacket that I can throw on to do all things from going to the grocery store to shoveling snow. I did buy the Arc'Teryx jacket because of this video and I can't thank you enough for this thorough a$$ review. My jacket is super warm, light and most importantly WINDPROOF! Now, I'll always be looking for these qualities! Thanks again!!
Thanks so much for watching, I'm glad you found my video helpful! Which arc'teryx jacket did you end up buying? Please like and subscribe if you haven’t already for future content.
Thank you very much for your Canada Goose review. Was looking to buy one but changed my mind after seeing this! I'm going to stick with The North Face.
In the UK we rarely get very cold temperatures, or dry snowfall. It's mainly cold rain and wind. Arc'teryx is perfect for the UK, using Goretex-Pro material... so that's why I wear the brand.
I'm the same I also use quite a lot of Rab and Montane clothing, my Rab Batura down Jacket has been excellent over the winter, Canada Goose is very expensive over here in the U.K.
Thanks for watching, glad you found it helpful. The fission SV should have you covered, it's a versatile jacket. Please like and subscribe if you haven't already.
Awesome! If you're careful with the fission, it should last a minimum of 10-15 years as long as the synthetic insulation isn't compressed too frequently.
I’m so glad u mentioned down weight. People always just talk about fill and it’s just one part of the equation how warm a jacket will be. Pretty annoying knowing this and that only about half the manufacturer’s ever list the down weight. Ironic that CG typically uses duck and not Goose down. I have the Arcteryx Camosun jacket and I love it because it’s wind, waterproof and Breathable. It has 750 down but is low in down weight so not the warmest but with a warm mid layer it is fine for most Chicago winter days. If it’s super cold I will just wear a puffer underneath. Also has a longer hem so it keeps your hips warm and protected from the cold. Wish it had a two way zip though and more pockets. I have an athletic build and love that Arcteryx compliments this. Hate bulky boxy jackets. I ski and makes a great ski jacket too. CG parkas in my opinion are good for one thing….walking your dog. Nice to be able to just throw on one big jacket and not have to layer and walk out the door. Otherwise I much prefer to layer if I’m out for the day so I can shed and vent things more easily.
Hi Martin, thanks for watching! I agree with you in that down weight is basically always left out, probably because it's hard to explain either quickly or in a retail setting and when a low fill power is used it explaining weight might not be a selling point. I'll need to check out that Arc'teryx you mentioned too, it's been in a couple other comments recently. And the walking a dog with a Canada goose parka is totally accurate, haha. Hope you like and subscribe for more content in the future. Happy new year.
Pretty much the reason why I've largely avoided down. There is no way to objectively determine warmth unless the company provides the fill power/down weight or give you the temperature rating. They'll all advertise fill power and will go out of their way to not provide the other relevant information.
Nah there are other jackets used in Antarctica. However anyone on a united States funded team has them as the standard issued gear. There are some jackets that are better then the expedition or resolute parkas and even the snow mantra can be beaten.
I'm curious what some of the non commercial options are that most people can't buy that would be better than the expedition or snow mantra and how much they would be.
Glad you found it helpful! Layering is the most effective method in staying warm outdoors. Which Arc'teryx would you consider for yourself? Please like and subscribe for more content in the future.
Awesome, they are excellent pieces of gear. Please consider using my affiliate links in the description as well if you decide to purchase to support the channel.
Just tripped across this video. Well done. Love Arcteryx gear. For those that don't like the close fit of the cerium jacket, also check out the thorium jacket. Under a Beta shell, it will keep you very warm as well and great for skiing and hiking.
I appreciate the thoroughness of this video, but it’s kind of a moot point in comparing - when one jacket needs a secondary gortex outer shell to make it wind and water proof… Kind of defeats the purpose. I own a Canada Goose Wyndham, and it gets me through the cold Colorado winters with more than enough warmth to spare. I can’t speak for its ability to keep me dry in the rain, as that’s a non issue here, but it performs just fine during snowfall.
Hi James, thanks for watching! You make a fair point, but even price wise with the 2 arcteryx pieces they are somewhat comparable. Especially when canada goose keeps raising the price of their products each year. Now the wyndham is around $1,200. The cerium was also designed to mostly be an inner layer and the arcteryx lineup is for the most part designed for layering. Recently they have been creating their urban wear parkas that might be a better comparison to canada goose parkas, but I don't own them to compare. Please like and subscribe for more content in the future.
Agree, there is no discussion about whether the one do-it-all jacket is comparable to 3 layer system. Mountaineers and climbers know best what to wear, when it comes to seriously harsh weather. Haven't seen anyone to climb mountain peaks in any Canada Goose. CG is fancy and stylish product with sufficient performance for city environment, where style is valued more than performance.
There probably has been discussion about it that we haven't heard much about, and I believe that's how Arc'teryx came out with their layering system quite some time ago. However, I believe that current marketing tactics from companies like Canada goose that focus on parkas have gotten to consumers through convenience of wearing a 1 piece jacket.
Great review. Though I think your conflating two different requirements. The Canada Goose is more of a luxury style based throw on coat over your tshirt for urban shopping and maybe walking the dog in winter. Being an avid snowboarder I would never wear a Canada Goose on a ski holiday for snowboarding. For that I tend to layer up under a Goretex shell. But would for trekking to the bar after a long day in the mountain. Arcterix is a technical garment that is typically used more on technical climbing or skiing. Apples n pears.
Fair! But because it's technical, that's why they work better overall. Plus arcteryx also has a few all in 1 pieces too which would be a slightly more equal comparison.
@@FinancialFitness8better overall for you does not mean better overall for everyone. People have different use cases and definitely care equally about fashion to function. I like you bring up good points of the function but as soon as I saw the loop sticking out of the back of the hood in the arcteryx or a helmet gap I’m like nope. Some of their clientele go from indoor to indoor settings in their car and do not need the extra waterproof but rather look a bit nicer and probably don’t want the extra bulk and weight. So it really depends on the person!
I agree with you, they're definitely a function first kind of brand. I personally prefer that, but not everyone does. It's also a reason people can buy multiple coats for each purpose if they choose to do so.
I just bought a Canada Goose jacket. I could tell right away it wasn’t water proof. But I have a Gortex 3L shell, which is waterproof and wind proof, and that is a totally different type of material. It’s not breathable at all (as you mention). It depends on what you want. I wouldn’t consider that a “deal breaker” at all.
I have a complete winter set; Montane Spitfire belay jacket with primaloft gold insulation. Montane duality goretex jacket with primaloft gold insulation. Montane 800+ down insulated pertex quantum pull on smock. Montane Polartec Neoshell jacket. Montane Sabretooth softshell jacket. Montane Polartec fleece jacket. Montane gloves, hats and rucksacks. Took years of research and a lot of investment but if you want your arse warm and dry no matter what mother nature throws at you, a complete interchangeable set is the best way I've found. The layering system is the best advice I've ever followed.
Hi Tony, that's a great setup! Layering is really effective, but at times I've still found it cumbersome for daily wear around the city. It's ideal for exploring the outdoors though. Please like and subscribe to check out future content, thanks for watching!
Thanks for the tip! I actually looked at the Thorsen, but it seems a bit baggy. I'm going to keep looking, but the cerium and the beta sv are great until I find the right all in 1 jacket.
Sure! I had some Patagonia gear in the past, but I think arcteryx makes better pieces especially from a technical standpoint since they're designed for climbing/hiking most of the time. I also think the trade in program that arcteryx offers will almost always give your used gear value when it's time to replace something.
Great video! Can you make another video discussing why CG actually use duck down, not goose down (Arc'teryx or other high-end brands use goose down), why CG reduced the down/feather ratio recently (the Wyndham is now 80/20), and why they increased prices significantly this year (~$200 each model)? I tried to find more info about this but couldn't.
Hi Tue, thanks for watching! Eventually when I make my next jacket review I'll discuss these points you mentioned. But the answer is quite simple to all of them, they are cutting costs. They used to use goose down and 90/10 on all their parkas. The feathers are cheaper and heavier than down, duck down is cheaper and in smaller clusters than goose down and they have been raising prices on most of their coats by around $100-$150 per year for the last couple of years to increase their profit margins. They've been expanding their store footprint globally too and trying to reduce the breakeven costs most likely for each store they open through price increases on their parkas and jackets. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out some of my other videos for more content.
Thank you for the quick response. What doesn't sit right with me is they're not transparent about it. Even their sale rep in the store was confused and told me it's 90/10. Watching reviews online then bought one in store which is much more expensive and has lower quality makes me feel like being scammed.
I understand what you mean. Do the labels inside the parkas even say 80/20 now? Perhaps try to return it if you can? Or go with a different brand in the future.
Good points made and brings up good points that make you consider before buying nah jacket. However beyond the jacket itself I would’ve like if you mentioned the customer service. I’ve found Canada goose to be one of the best when I come to customer service and jacket maintenance.
Hi Eduardo, thanks for watching. I didn't mention the customer service much because I didn't have any experience with them myself. Please like and subscribe for more content!
Funny this video was in my "suggested" feed. I bought a 950 euro Canada goose jacket 3 months ago. When I asked about the weight of the down in my jacket 2 weeks after delivery, CG customer service refused to tell me, citing their concerns that the information could be used to help counterfeiters. What a crock of BS for them to withhold information about the quality of my jacket over something that doesn't concern me at all. Terrible customer service in my opinion, and now I'll never buy another one of their jackets.
Their parkas have noticeably less down than years past, and they probably don't want to provide definitive proof that their quality is dropping. I regret ever having bought one of their parkas as well.
I’m a fan of both. Arc’teryx for skiing mostly and I’m lucky enough to have a pro shell that was made in Canada back in the day. My Cerium hoody at 850 fill is probably the warmest single item of clothing I own and will take it with me this weekend in Reykjavik. I still love my CG Langford parka though :).
Catching the fabric or wind guard is not a zipper problem. It is a sewing problem. The fabric should have enough stitching to make it lie flat in proximity to the zipper.
Most people only have a jacket from the car to the house but for long term outdoor activities I would recommend Eddie Bauer because you can get them for 35% off on average and goes against Canada goose 🪿 for less money.
Agree with you about the poor value proposition of CG. Arcteryx camsoun, thorsen or therme will work better for most & cost less. If you have more to spend but want a great quality coat with brilliant weather proofing then the Arcteryx monitor down is the best out there. For those who like the classic parka style there's also Swedish brand Fjallraven. They offer down and wool padded parkas that are highly durable and well made. The expedition down series will rival anything CG make. There's little reason for anyone who doesn't just want to pose to buy CG.
you should try Arcteryx Macai jacket. It has the hard shell like Beta sv and it has down insulated inside for Macai. So you do not need to wear 2 jackets.
I thought about the macai but it was a bit bulky/long and didn't fit well on me even in a small or extra small. I'm waiting for them to design another jacket or to go all out on a custom 1 eventually.
@@FinancialFitness8 Great video with alot of details. I agree with Sean that you should compare the CG Wyndham, Macmillan and Carson jackets with the Arteryx Camosun and Therme jackets. Or at lease compare the Wyndham with a free standing Arcteryx (not 2 different jackets) jacket. Being 5'8" and 132#, I found that the Arteryx XS jackets were still a little too loose on me whereas the XC CG jackets (and the small CG fusion jackets) fit me better. I like the Arteryx better in that they are less conspicuous, simpler and cheaper in price but they just don't fit me as well.
Whenever I do buy a standalone Arc’teryx I will do another comparison. But since I'm not sponsored or anything it makes little sense for me to buy all of these myself to make a video. I haven’t found the fusion fit to be that much better for me personally, but the last time I tried them on at a store I can see they're designed with a much slimmer fit. I'll keep you guys posted whenever I do buy a replacement for the canada goose wyndham. I just haven't found exactly what I'm looking for just yet. Glad you guys both enjoyed the video!
I have to say that your review of the Canada Goose Down Parka was quite an eye opener. I would think that a parka at that price point would perform much better. It just goes to show that some outerwear companies have sacrificed quality for fashion. I wear a RAB Kinder Smock which is a pullover style Down Jacket. 650 fill.9.5 oz. Both the jacket and the down insulation are water resistant. Only $200.00 U.S.
Thanks for watching! Canada goose parkas are water resistant, but very very few are water proof so if there is enough wet weather from either rain or snow that melts, it could impact how the down insulates and cause clumping. I would say most down parkas and jackets are generally not waterproof. You typically need goretex or a similar type of material that can have water slide off the jacket. Jackets with waterproofing are more expensive than their water resistant equivalents, but there should be waterproof parkas at around $300-$500 from other brands. Hope you liked and subscribed for more content in the future.
@@FinancialFitness8 Of course the funny part is that my "go to" jacket is a RAB Zero G 1000 fill power, The jacket weighs 11oz. Has 4.5 oz of Goose Down is warm, weighs less than a t-shirt. Not at all water resistant, is wind resistant. But at $550.00 pricey. But oh so comfortable to wear.
I have Canada Goose, Arcteryx, Moncler, and Mackage. All have their own caveats, but more recently I discovered Kanuk. Overall I prefer Kanuk for everything, but I wish they had real fur on their jackets. Their designs are amazingly streamlined, and despite using duck down use fill power of 95/5. Plus their fabrics are amazing, and it’s not worn just for hype. Moncler for style. Mackage for their fur and great pocket design. Arcteryx for dedication to functionality and quality. Canada Goose isn’t really on my radar anymore, and I don’t like how Moose Knuckles looks..
Hi Dillon, that's really helpful, thanks for sharing and watching. I've never heard of kanuk, I'll have to check it out. Please like and subscribe if you haven't already for more content in the future.
Thanks for mentioning. One of their jackets is exactly what I was looking for. Big Arcteryx fan, only issue is finding a more stylish jacket for city wear and not a huge fan of their Veliance line.
I have two Woolrich Artic parkas one 16 years old one 15 years old both are 550 fill. I have a 15 year old Northface McMurdo parka that is 700 fill. Both brands are warm enough to wear a tee shirt under which I do often or if I wear a sweater I leave my jacket unzipped… I paid $135 for my first Woolrich $150 for the second and $150 for the Northface all were NWTs…
Yeah, it's the not being wind proof that really gets the canada goose parkas. Not quite as much the low down fill power they use. The low fill power only contributes to the weight of the parka which is not relevant for most people that just wear the coat daily to work and other casual activities.
@@FinancialFitness8 no doubt as you said most people wear the Canada Goose for style, I forgot to mention my two Woolrichs are windproof and dupont teflon coated so water beads up when it hits the coat but doesn't penetrate or soak the coat. As for the McMurdo it is heavier than the Woolys because it has a higher fill and they are made for mountain climbing hiking and being in Extreme weather like in Antartica. I love big winter coats always have I rocked bubble coats in high school in the early 80s, I have some nice down vests. Two American Eagle and one Old Navy olive green joint I caught off ebay I was surprised it was down filled I also have an old CLH vest from 2003 45% down last but not lease I had a really nice Spiewak & Sons goose down vest back in 2001 (Im wondering what happenwd to it??? ) They made nice stuff, Baltimore guys mostly and some NY guys rocked Spiewak & Sons late 90s early to mid 2000s..nice vid my friend you put alotta research in this joint…
Sounds like you did quite a bit of research and tried some great coats as well! Thanks for sharing your gear in the comments, like and subscribe if you haven't already for more content in the future. I also made a video on the Arcteryx Atom LT Hoody which uses coreloft insulation. Check that out when you get a chance too. th-cam.com/video/pB5j80BaC94/w-d-xo.html
What about the thorsen parka? It’s one jacket that is also a shell with a thinner down fill. Wearing a fleece liner underneath can keep you warm. I’m debating wether having a dedicated shell is better.
Hey Ivan, I've thought about that piece as well, but I'm not sold on anything just yet. So I believe it comes down to convenience or maximum warmth whether you want 2 separate pieces or 1. Personally after testing a bunch of combinations I think having 2 separate layers is actually warmer, but it's definitely not as convenient and you lose fleece lining or down fill in the pockets of a shell to keep your hands warm unless you wear gloves. So I'm looking for something that is about hip length, at least 800 or 850 down fill, 1 piece and almost as warm as wearing 2 layers. I haven't come that close to finding an ideal parka that has the right fit and warmth in 1 piece that isn't crazy expensive. The most reasonable 1 that I've seen and liked is maybe the camosun.
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Wear in a store Therme and it worth every penny. By A LOT, waay better of Patagonia waterproof parka and cheaper NorthFace's MacMurdo is weight like 8 of Thermes))))) Gonna buy it!
If you need water proof and wind proof you need the Expedition or Snow Mantra parkas, which are certified for wear in Antarctica. These things function at more than-50F.
They're pretty heavy though. I'd be looking for something significantly lighter than those, which is why I probably will end up with something else from arcteryx when I see a piece that catches my attention eventually.
Great video! Have you ever checked out any OSC gear? They make -40C jackets that are both waterproof and windproof! Wish I bought one over my Expedition parka, much cheaper too lmao
How are the osc jackets? They claim warmest on the planet with their -60rated jacket but idk still thinking I might splurge and get eider duck down. Eider down while not as commercially available can get fill power as high as 1200. However the jackets are like snow mantra price point on the low end.
Hi, I still haven't tried anything from OSC, but they do seem competitively priced compared to Canada goose and Arc'teryx. I'll have to look at eider also. Please like and subscribe for more content.
@@FinancialFitness8 eider is a type of duck. A few brands use the down from them in jackets. Cheapest one readily available is the full shield at 3500$ from Olmsted outerwear. A few other companies make them but mostly made to order. The one brand I know but am keeping to myself only has so much down per year so their workshop is only open so long every year. For something that is cheap comparatively and also super warm. Check out feathered friends khambu puffer. 800 powerfully and nice modern materials and craftsmanship for like 700 if memory serves. One review says its good down to -40. But it's goose down but kinda unbeatable for the price point. Most eider duck down though is harvested through a symbiotic relationship. So no animals harmed. But also means the supply gets expensive. Used in Europe quite often. But when ordering such a jacket you can get it built to last and use quality materials. Already have the basic idea for mine when I can order it just still deciding on brands. Baffles to help with wind resistance. Going a little intense on the down fill using a decent amount at least a pound of eider maybe more. Might use recycled furs for a lining backed to a modern water proof material like goretex to protect the down. Fur on the hood but with a shaping wire. Fully water and wind proof on the outside. Built in bib set up so you can zip down the front without fully exposing your chest. Draw cords and probably vents. Fur lined and down insulated pockets. But I work film industry so kinda need it. 13 hours outdoors in the cold lol. Also like traveling and camping and stuff so going full overkill on something that'll last decades. Should cost me about what the full shield does maybe a bit more but the full shield or the feathered friends jacket will both be overkill for alot of people I think. 800 to 900 goose down is probably enough for most people if you don't mind a 5 ish pound coat versus like 8. Could be made lighter and as warm as some 5 ish pound coats but depends where you live. Why I'm kinda not thinking a Canada goose other then the new mountaineering jacket. Low fill power. But Olmsted kanuk pajar mackage are all good Canadian brands. I'm currently looking at mackage pajar moose knuckles feathered friends and triple fat goose for a winter coat right now. Mackages warmest jacket is like 1390 Canadian but many people rate them warmer then the cheaper goose parkas and the ones that might be similar seem to cost more. Kanuk is cheaper but idk not my look. Pajar has some nice stuff might get their flagship parka with fur and down. If you don't want fur then kanuk has you covered and isn't that expensive. Like 1k for the flagship or less. The osc flagship is technically rated at -60 though and wind and water proof with 800 fill power down. It's probably the best budget alternative as it seems like it'll be built to last Bush shit so the others are kinda lacking. Also seems to be the cheapest way to get something that'll last decades with an 800 fill power plus water and wind proofing vs resistance. Also while better down means less needed. For super super cold and extended time it seems having the extra weight helps hold the heat in and furs can be useful as amazing natural insulation. Wool can also work super well.
@@FinancialFitness8 66 North is another brand that'll make eider down jackets as well. But yeah they don't come cheap. Also where you start to see above 90 percent down. I've seen 95 down 5 feather once or twice.
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Were the Cerium and the Beta the same size? Or, did you have to size up on the Beta to accommodate the Cerium? Thank you for the video! Edited for spelling & punctuation.
Hi, thanks for watching! Good question, the way arcteryx designs their shells, they fit them assuming you will wear an insulated layer under it so they're meant to be the same size as the layer you will wear on the inside. I'm wearing a size small in both the cerium sv and the beta sv in the video. If you're considering purchasing, please check out my affiliate links. Also, like, subscribe and check out my other arcteryx video on the Atom LT. th-cam.com/video/pB5j80BaC94/w-d-xo.html
That's correct, small for both pieces. The shells are designed to be a bit looser to accomodate a mid layer so there is no need to size up. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my other videos as well like on the Atom LT hoody. th-cam.com/video/pB5j80BaC94/w-d-xo.html
Canada Goose has gone waaaay downhill in quality. I bought a Citadel back in 2015 and I remember being surprised when I noticed that it was actually duck down. Everyone assumes that it's goose down because of the brand name. I've already needed to send the parka in twice for repairs. Basically, the fabric wears itself away from just walking around. It's insane for the pricing. I was looking for a new parka this year and looked at CG and the down fill has gotten ridiculously skimpy. Like, not warm at all, plus they are losing the warmth of fur because they are now fur-free. So you really are only paying for the brand name at this point. I ended up getting a Triple FAT Goose Huron parka for less than half the price of CG but with 700 power goose down, actually waterproof and windproof material, magnetic closures, better pockets, and coyote fur. My husband got the newer insulated version of the Arc'teryx Beta and he loves it! It's warm, waterproof, and looks amazing. Great video by the way - excellent information concisely delivered.
@@FinancialFitness8 It's funny - I've been dealing with the Canada Goose zipper getting caught on the wind flap for so many years that I forgot it was an issue until I heard you mention it in your video.
Hi! Depends on what you're looking to use it for or how you plan to layer. But sounds like you had something in mind already. Hope you enjoyed my video! Please like and subscribe.
@@cervelo_r3sl Fjallraven sadly only recently became available in North America and I think thats one of the reasons. However, their trousers are immensely popular here. I own several of thier products and would not buy anyone else there that much better. I will say other Euro brands are not well known here either like Noronna for example also a very superior product.
If you like trousers more slim fit try the Lundhags Makke pants. I like them much more than the Fjällraven. If you like to test not so well known brands give 66 north from Iceland a try. I love e.g. my Tindur down jacket and Reykjavik pants
Hi there. Arc’teryx has released their new Cerium SV Hoody (1000 fill). I would like to hear your suggestions on which one is warmer compared to Thorium Hoody. Also one of my friends told me that the fabric of Cerium is quite thin that the down comes out. Is that a problem I need to concern? I’m looking forward for your reply. Thanks a lot!
Hi Ralph, any down jacket will eventually have down that comes out since down fill is so compressible. The cerium SV is warmer than the thorium. If price is not an issue and you're looking for the most warmth per dollar, the cerium SV is the way to go. The outer fabric on both cerium and thorium tend to be somewhat thin to limit the weight of each jacket. Let me know which 1 you end up getting! Also, please like and subscribe if you haven’t already for more content in the future.
@@FinancialFitness8 Thanks for your advice! I will probably go for the cerium, and I will let you know my experience after the purchase. Thorium looks bulkier, and it’s heavier than the cerium(304g for the cerium and 517g for the thorium). Therefore I thought it might be warmer since there may be more down inside the garment.
Check the specs on both jackets on the arcteryx website. The cerium should have more insulation and higher quality since it's 1000 down fill. Also, since it's 1000 down fill compared to the thorium it should be lighter as you mentioned already.
Hi Brian, thank you or the video. Very informative. I would like to share some of my personal experience,. I am no supporter of Canada goose, however I think their breathability point is legit. Having said that, from what you experienced it sounds like they could make their jackets a bit more wind and possibly water resistant. The thing is, from my experience, having a waterproof and wind proof down jacket(Parka), you basically make it wet from the inside (sweat) and need to clean it. A waterproof/breathable membrane simply does not breathe in freezing temperatures. With the membrane exposed to cold air at below freezing temperatures, this has the body vapours freezing on contact of the membrane on the inside of the jacket. I think someone wanting a waterproof/breathable insulated jacket should look at synthetic Down like primaloft, coreloft and the like. Or maybe at an hydrophobic treated down (but you’d still have your sweat stuck on the inside). Having said that, the combo you showed in the video is certainly the most versatile if people don’t mind carrying more than one jacket. Take care and thank you again for the video.
Hi there, thanks for watching and leaving a comment with your experience! I appreciate it and you do raise a good point, I agree for some people breathability may be quite helpful. I have experienced EXACTLY what you mean by sweating on the inside of the coat during the spring/fall in my Arcteryx Atom LT hoody which uses coreloft as the insulation of which I did another review on separately since it's not designed for winter. But I do realize that everyone has a different level of cold tolerance, I guess mine must be pretty low since I have yet to experience that in any winter parka I've owned (and I've gone through quite a few at this point lol). Just thought this video would be helpful for people that might be in the market to buy a canada goose parka to both explain how down fill works and some of their marketing tactics since they've been getting less transparent about their price increases, down to feather ratio and down weight. Most of the important metrics that make their parkas highly functional have been decreasing each year, they've been dropping from the 90/10 down to feather ratio to 80/20 and many parkas have downgraded from goose down to duck down, in addition to the $100-$150 price increases across their parka lineup every year for the last 3-4 years. What is your go-to winter coat, just out of curiosity?
@@FinancialFitness8 I totally appreciate the information about Canada Goose. I live in the Canadian Rockies and often see people wearing those CG down jackets and still looking quite cold. I did feel they were going more for fashion than what they’re advertising for (warm). I too have gone through quite a few jackets and parkas and have a bit of a selection depending how cold it is outside. I love winter and I set up to enjoy it. Although that’s not very money wise I’m afraid. Having said that, I rarely buy anything full price. With a bit of patience you can find pretty good deals. Lately I’ve gotten Fjallraven jackets and parkas. And as a mid layer I quite like The North Face thermoball jacket. I find that it breathes and wick moisture really well, while being a good shell too when it’s not too cold. One thing I read recently and enjoyed was on the Editarod race official website about racers clothing information. Take care!
@@FinancialFitness8 one last comment, for a warm mid layer similar to your arc’teryx down, I prefer the Patagonia Fitzroy Down jacket. Although meant for low intensity activities like walking. For me anyways. Additional to the down quality and weight, there is the jacket construction. To my knowledge the Patagonia Fitzroy has boxed baffled construction. (I think that’s how it’s called). Basically, the down is contained in boxes of material that is slightly over lapping. This prevents cold spots. Cold spots is the main thing I dislike about down jackets in general. I believe Arc’teryx has jackets with a mix of down and synthetic down on specific areas to avoid cold spots. Anyways, take care!
Yep Arc'teryx generally uses synthetic in the shoulders and under the arms, the rest of the jacket is down. Thanks for the feedback. I'll take a look at what you mentioned! Please like and subscribe if you haven't already for more content in the future.
Currently buying my winter jacket and got a CG skreslet but found it way too oversized.. any suggestions on a jacket for maximum warmth with minimum layering? I kind of like to just put on a jacket over anything and know I'll be just fine. Currently looking at the Arcteryx node down jacket.
Hi! We had the exact same thought process on minimal layering. I looked at the arcteryx macai, the CG skeslet and Node. The node I ended up returning even though it's excellent and currently on sale for black Friday because the hood is not quite like their normal storm hoods. It isn't as adjustable and let's the wind in a bit, otherwise it's exactly what both of us are probably looking for. The fact that they're finally discounting the node, I think they may release a redesign next season fixing that issue, I'd recommend holding off buying it for now, or just going for it while it's 30% off and maybe you'll have a different experience than me. Let me know what you end up buying/trying!
@Financial Fitness Appreciate the quick reply! In terms of overall warmth what would be your most recommend option in the $1,100 USD range? I was going to buy a smaller size skreslet the mountaineer as well was the node and just try them all on and then after choosing one return the rest. Any other jacket I should look out for?
The node is on sale for $980, those are the 3 best I've found in that just over 1k full retail price range. The mountaineer is ok, but they've increased the price on it several times and I don't prefer how they do the diagonal hand pockets that are a bit higher than normal hand pockets. If you go any higher in price above $1,300-1,500 then you end up looking at eiderdown which is the next level of warmth. I may talk about it in a future video.
They can bump up the price because they're a desirable fashion item now, The big sleeve badge lets everybody know how cool and well-off (or more likely in debt) the wearer is.
I just received the Hybridge Jacket. The storage/gift box was crushed. Canada goose told me tough and offered a $10.00 refund. I didn't realize Canada goose was so hater hate. I bet the warranty is bull crap. I have another one. PLus I am starting to see people wearing pretty good looking fakes at the bus stop. over it.
Hi Ken, I absolutely agree with you on this. Technically speaking it's the most efficient way to stay warm as heat gets trapped between each layer as well and you can remove layers as needed. However, I think in terms of just grabbing a jacket and going about your day, a 1 piece jacket that can keep you warm and dry is more convenient. Layering requires more thought and lots of different pieces to adapt to the weather. I'm currently looking for a 1 piece jacket that can do it all, I just haven't found it yet. Please like, subscribe and check out my other video on the Arcteryx Atom LT. th-cam.com/video/dwBJHMHfiD0/w-d-xo.html
I think you just pay for the label. I got a futurelight 94 retro parka on summer sale 700fill goose down for £270 uk pounds and its much warmer than my arcteryx cerium sv which is 850 fill goose down.i think its a waste of money spending a thousand for a designer label jacket .
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@@allahbless2278 supreme do stuff for north face and so does Gucci and you think its not considered designer?arcteryx do more expensive stuff in the vailence range I consider that designer urban wear.
I would hardly consider that designer if they just put their name to cosign it. And again, just because they cosign something it doesn't make the quality any better. That's branding and marketing.
Most of the Canada Goose range is just there to exploit the rap/ street crowd who only want the logo and have no clue about function and don’t even know that about waterproof etc and not getting down wet . Drake wearing arcteryx could end up being the worst thing for the bird.
It's worth it if you can use it for basically a decade and still have a functional product at the end of it. Try some other brands and see if they can even come close.
I have heard of them from other subscribers, but I haven't tried any of them on in person since they're not a US retailer. Have you tried any of their gear on before?
@@FinancialFitness8 yes I own multiple pieces by them for years now. I just purchased the jokyl parka and quality is still top notch with 15 pockets and so forth.
Got it. I will definitely have to check them out then. Some subscribers have mentioned that they do custom orders as well, they just dont talk much about it on their website.
8lbs isn’t a lot to wear. And it protects way better than any arcteryx. I know, I have both. And fill power matters but only in relation to amount of down. So if there is twice the amount of down in something that has half that amount but twice the fill power they will insulate the exact same. High fill matters most when you want the least amount of down or any other material to cut weight. So it matters most in coats made for climbing/backpacking or other endurance sports. Same goes for sleeping bags, top quilts, or under quilts. The Canada goose has way more down in it, more than double, than the arcteryx, and is therefore warmer. And only someone who is feeble or walking 15 miles a day with a pack would care about the weight difference.
I had both jackets too, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to make this review video. And while I agree about fill power/amount of down, it still feels like Arc'teryx can keep the cold out better especially when comparing it to the Wyndham. The cold air would also come under the parka since it's not as close to the waist and body as the cerium. Even though the Wyndham may have more down in it, since there is no drawcord to seal out the cold from the bottom of the parka it's less effective. And in the video I mentioned the weight because people who don't own a Canada goose are not aware of the weight, the weight itself isn't that big of a deal.
@@FinancialFitness8 Well, that’s not my experience at all. My experience is that Canada Goose is far warmer, Where as Arcteryx excels as active ware. If I was hiking or climbing I would take that, but if I am sitting in -15F for an extended period of time Canada Goose has no equal, that I know of anyway.
I hear you, coats are extremely personal and they don't always work for everyone. I do agree with you on some points you mentioned, like on what you just mentioned about a Canada goose parka being warmer for sitting around vs being active and taking an Arc'teryx jacket.
In some respects yes, but also no. As much as you pay for branding most of the time with luxury products, there still has to be a certain amount of utility or some other appealing feature that makes it worthwhile to purchase.
@@FinancialFitness8 If warming one's ego is considered as utility, then these high prices are surely "worth" it. The truth, however, is that most people buy these luxury goods for the brand - basically a sign telling others that they are either wealthy or they are "worth" it. Think about this: would people buy a Rolex if it doesn't have that famous, easily recognizable crown? And how many people would spend $200 on Nike sneakers that doesn't have the logo, even if that pair of shoes is of the same design and quality?
Based on how you define "worth" it then not a single person would buy any luxury products at all? That doesn't seem right either regardless of how much branding is being paid for in a product, there still has to be some utility.
@@FinancialFitness8 No, like I said, many people thinks certain product is "worth it" simply because it warms his/her ego, not the intrinsic value of that product. Case and point: I know this lady who spent $$$$$ on a nice 3 carat diamond ring in France. She wore it for years and received tons of compliments from her friends. And she thought the ring was worth every single penny. Then one day, she visited a jewelry store here in the states. Since they offer a free cleaning service, she asked the jeweler to clean her diamond ring. The jeweler looked at the ring closely, took out an electronic diamond tester and tested the ring right in front of her. Turned out that 3 carat "diamond" was moissanite. Naturally she didn't believed him and went to multiple jewelers to verify. After the fourth jeweler telling her the same story, she basically got so mad and throw the ring away. The ring still had all its sparkles and even the 24 gold and 3 carat stone probably was worth more than 1 thousand dollars. But she threw it away because the ring is no longer worth anything to her. Why? Because the ring now hurts her ego, instead of warming it.
That's still a slightly different situation, but yes fair point. Those people only buy luxury goods for that reason which makes little sense, but that's their choice.
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What do you think about moose knuckle
I haven't had any experience with their products, but they seem to be a direct competitor with canada goose after looking at their website. Similar product types & styles, similar fill power, similar pricing. At first glance they seem like they would essentially sell the exact same products, but with a different brand and slightly higher down fill power on average than canada goose.
Arcteryx tends to be the most open about their products. They're almost always designed for function/intended use in mind. As such, they'll always have a level of respect from me.
Canada Goose is in the process of transitioning from a functional outdoors brand to a fashion brand. We still see some of the hallmarks of a function brand but they're already starting to cut corners by using an inferior material while drastically increasing prices. The irony of calling yourself Canada Goose and using Duck down is not lost on me.
All of what you said is so true about both companies.
CG still actually uses goose down in some of their products but mostly true. It's a weird choice because goose down is not that expensive.
"Canada Duck" doesn't have the cache to it. Agree with you on Arcteryx, been wearing it for about 20 years and overall I think it's the best you can buy.
Great review on Canada Goose! Pretty much hit the nail on all the points. As others have mentioned check out OSC which is what Canada Goose should be at these prices, but nowadays they've become the universal logo of luxury winter. Arc'teryx is pretty sweet and I might have to get a shell from them.
Thanks for watching! My next jacket probably will be something along the lines of osc so I'm definitely keeping it in mind. The Arc'teryx shells are no joke, they're solid and durable. Hope you like and subscribe for more content in the future.
I used to be a 1-jacket guy, always looking for that perfect jacket...then I realised that it doesn't exist. Water resistance, wind resistance, thermal insulation, breathability, style...there's trade-offs, you can't have it all. So I bought an Arcteryx shell and gave layering a go and it's just incredible. I love my Beta LT and I'll never go back.
There's a lot of truth to what you're saying about the 1 piece jacket. I'm finding it hard to have everything you listed. Style seems to be the first to go out the door followed by wind resistance. You're probably right, the perfect jacket may not exist, but I'll still be on the lookout in case it pops up eventually. Hope you like and subscribe for more content. Thanks for watching Trevor.
Honestly, Thank you for this review. I live in Chicago and desperately needed a light, versatile jacket that I can throw on to do all things from going to the grocery store to shoveling snow. I did buy the Arc'Teryx jacket because of this video and I can't thank you enough for this thorough a$$ review. My jacket is super warm, light and most importantly WINDPROOF! Now, I'll always be looking for these qualities! Thanks again!!
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@@FinancialFitness8 I bought the Cerium Down Hoody. I love it!
Fantastic! It's a great jacket, I just bought 1 too and made another video about it.
Thank you very much for your Canada Goose review. Was looking to buy one but changed my mind after seeing this! I'm going to stick with The North Face.
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In the UK we rarely get very cold temperatures, or dry snowfall. It's mainly cold rain and wind. Arc'teryx is perfect for the UK, using Goretex-Pro material... so that's why I wear the brand.
I'm the same I also use quite a lot of Rab and Montane clothing, my Rab Batura down Jacket has been excellent over the winter, Canada Goose is very expensive over here in the U.K.
Appreciate the video. Was on the fence but this convinced me to go Arc'teryx in Chicago and I'm glad I did👏
Fission SV 👌
Thanks for watching, glad you found it helpful. The fission SV should have you covered, it's a versatile jacket. Please like and subscribe if you haven't already.
@@FinancialFitness8 Yep that's all imma need for years ,along with the occasional hoodie . Been subbed for sure and liked, appreciate it 👏
Awesome! If you're careful with the fission, it should last a minimum of 10-15 years as long as the synthetic insulation isn't compressed too frequently.
Thanks for the video. You just saved me from buying a CG! I own 5 different Arc Teryx' jackets and love 2 of them. The Macai is still in review.
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I’m so glad u mentioned down weight. People always just talk about fill and it’s just one part of the equation how warm a jacket will be. Pretty annoying knowing this and that only about half the manufacturer’s ever list the down weight. Ironic that CG typically uses duck and not Goose down. I have the Arcteryx Camosun jacket and I love it because it’s wind, waterproof and Breathable. It has 750 down but is low in down weight so not the warmest but with a warm mid layer it is fine for most Chicago winter days. If it’s super cold I will just wear a puffer underneath. Also has a longer hem so it keeps your hips warm and protected from the cold. Wish it had a two way zip though and more pockets. I have an athletic build and love that Arcteryx compliments this. Hate bulky boxy jackets. I ski and makes a great ski jacket too. CG parkas in my opinion are good for one thing….walking your dog. Nice to be able to just throw on one big jacket and not have to layer and walk out the door. Otherwise I much prefer to layer if I’m out for the day so I can shed and vent things more easily.
Hi Martin, thanks for watching! I agree with you in that down weight is basically always left out, probably because it's hard to explain either quickly or in a retail setting and when a low fill power is used it explaining weight might not be a selling point. I'll need to check out that Arc'teryx you mentioned too, it's been in a couple other comments recently. And the walking a dog with a Canada goose parka is totally accurate, haha. Hope you like and subscribe for more content in the future. Happy new year.
Pretty much the reason why I've largely avoided down. There is no way to objectively determine warmth unless the company provides the fill power/down weight or give you the temperature rating. They'll all advertise fill power and will go out of their way to not provide the other relevant information.
The Expedition jacket is the best jacket.
It’s used by basically everyone in Antarctica with temperatures of -40 -50 degrees Celsius.
I'm sure it is quite good, but it also must weigh close to 8 pounds or more. Please like and subscribe for more content!
Nah there are other jackets used in Antarctica. However anyone on a united States funded team has them as the standard issued gear.
There are some jackets that are better then the expedition or resolute parkas and even the snow mantra can be beaten.
I'm curious what some of the non commercial options are that most people can't buy that would be better than the expedition or snow mantra and how much they would be.
I’m good with the Citadel
@@FinancialFitness8 it’s true, it is very warm but it is huuuuge and very heavy
Appreciate this review.
I been interested about Arcteyx for a while now.
I think what you did is intelligent with two layers
Glad you found it helpful! Layering is the most effective method in staying warm outdoors. Which Arc'teryx would you consider for yourself? Please like and subscribe for more content in the future.
@@FinancialFitness8 i would definetley go for the same two you use/ used
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Just tripped across this video. Well done. Love Arcteryx gear. For those that don't like the close fit of the cerium jacket, also check out the thorium jacket. Under a Beta shell, it will keep you very warm as well and great for skiing and hiking.
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I appreciate the thoroughness of this video, but it’s kind of a moot point in comparing - when one jacket needs a secondary gortex outer shell to make it wind and water proof… Kind of defeats the purpose. I own a Canada Goose Wyndham, and it gets me through the cold Colorado winters with more than enough warmth to spare. I can’t speak for its ability to keep me dry in the rain, as that’s a non issue here, but it performs just fine during snowfall.
Hi James, thanks for watching! You make a fair point, but even price wise with the 2 arcteryx pieces they are somewhat comparable. Especially when canada goose keeps raising the price of their products each year. Now the wyndham is around $1,200. The cerium was also designed to mostly be an inner layer and the arcteryx lineup is for the most part designed for layering. Recently they have been creating their urban wear parkas that might be a better comparison to canada goose parkas, but I don't own them to compare. Please like and subscribe for more content in the future.
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Agree, there is no discussion about whether the one do-it-all jacket is comparable to 3 layer system. Mountaineers and climbers know best what to wear, when it comes to seriously harsh weather. Haven't seen anyone to climb mountain peaks in any Canada Goose. CG is fancy and stylish product with sufficient performance for city environment, where style is valued more than performance.
There probably has been discussion about it that we haven't heard much about, and I believe that's how Arc'teryx came out with their layering system quite some time ago. However, I believe that current marketing tactics from companies like Canada goose that focus on parkas have gotten to consumers through convenience of wearing a 1 piece jacket.
Great review. Though I think your conflating two different requirements. The Canada Goose is more of a luxury style based throw on coat over your tshirt for urban shopping and maybe walking the dog in winter. Being an avid snowboarder I would never wear a Canada Goose on a ski holiday for snowboarding. For that I tend to layer up under a Goretex shell. But would for trekking to the bar after a long day in the mountain. Arcterix is a technical garment that is typically used more on technical climbing or skiing. Apples n pears.
Fair! But because it's technical, that's why they work better overall. Plus arcteryx also has a few all in 1 pieces too which would be a slightly more equal comparison.
@@FinancialFitness8 Good point. 👍
@@FinancialFitness8better overall for you does not mean better overall for everyone. People have different use cases and definitely care equally about fashion to function. I like you bring up good points of the function but as soon as I saw the loop sticking out of the back of the hood in the arcteryx or a helmet gap I’m like nope. Some of their clientele go from indoor to indoor settings in their car and do not need the extra waterproof but rather look a bit nicer and probably don’t want the extra bulk and weight. So it really depends on the person!
I agree with you, they're definitely a function first kind of brand. I personally prefer that, but not everyone does. It's also a reason people can buy multiple coats for each purpose if they choose to do so.
Great review!! Arc’Teryx just went to the top of my list!!
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I just bought a Canada Goose jacket. I could tell right away it wasn’t water proof. But I have a Gortex 3L shell, which is waterproof and wind proof, and that is a totally different type of material. It’s not breathable at all (as you mention). It depends on what you want. I wouldn’t consider that a “deal breaker” at all.
Gortex is pretty breathable, I didn't get soked even I wear them for snowboarding.
I bought a mint used Kanuk Kuujjuaq for $50 Cdn.Wind proof,warm,showerproof and excellent quality.
I have a complete winter set;
Montane Spitfire belay jacket with primaloft gold insulation.
Montane duality goretex jacket with primaloft gold insulation.
Montane 800+ down insulated pertex quantum pull on smock.
Montane Polartec Neoshell jacket.
Montane Sabretooth softshell jacket.
Montane Polartec fleece jacket.
Montane gloves, hats and rucksacks.
Took years of research and a lot of investment but if you want your arse warm and dry no matter what mother nature throws at you, a complete interchangeable set is the best way I've found.
The layering system is the best advice I've ever followed.
Hi Tony, that's a great setup! Layering is really effective, but at times I've still found it cumbersome for daily wear around the city. It's ideal for exploring the outdoors though. Please like and subscribe to check out future content, thanks for watching!
@@FinancialFitness8 Sounds like the Arc teryx Thorsen parka is ideal for you.
Thanks for the tip! I actually looked at the Thorsen, but it seems a bit baggy. I'm going to keep looking, but the cerium and the beta sv are great until I find the right all in 1 jacket.
You can't go wrong with Arcteryx or Patagonia, using both and these brands are amazing, for whatever purpose you are buying
I'm not actually a fan of Patagonia, but that's a personal preference of mine.
@@FinancialFitness8 absolutely:)
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@@FinancialFitness8 may I ask why? i'm current winter shopping and id love to hear your thoughts.
Sure! I had some Patagonia gear in the past, but I think arcteryx makes better pieces especially from a technical standpoint since they're designed for climbing/hiking most of the time. I also think the trade in program that arcteryx offers will almost always give your used gear value when it's time to replace something.
Great video! Very easy to understand than most other videos.
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you did a fantastic job on this review.
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I would choose a cheaper waterproof outer jacket made from a quiet fabric. Noisy fabric is a drag. Gortex is not the best choice for "waterproof".
Great video! Can you make another video discussing why CG actually use duck down, not goose down (Arc'teryx or other high-end brands use goose down), why CG reduced the down/feather ratio recently (the Wyndham is now 80/20), and why they increased prices significantly this year (~$200 each model)? I tried to find more info about this but couldn't.
Hi Tue, thanks for watching! Eventually when I make my next jacket review I'll discuss these points you mentioned. But the answer is quite simple to all of them, they are cutting costs. They used to use goose down and 90/10 on all their parkas. The feathers are cheaper and heavier than down, duck down is cheaper and in smaller clusters than goose down and they have been raising prices on most of their coats by around $100-$150 per year for the last couple of years to increase their profit margins. They've been expanding their store footprint globally too and trying to reduce the breakeven costs most likely for each store they open through price increases on their parkas and jackets. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out some of my other videos for more content.
Thank you for the quick response. What doesn't sit right with me is they're not transparent about it. Even their sale rep in the store was confused and told me it's 90/10. Watching reviews online then bought one in store which is much more expensive and has lower quality makes me feel like being scammed.
I understand what you mean. Do the labels inside the parkas even say 80/20 now? Perhaps try to return it if you can? Or go with a different brand in the future.
@@FinancialFitness8 Yes they do. Will return it.
Let me know which jacket you buy to replace the canada goose.
Good points made and brings up good points that make you consider before buying nah jacket. However beyond the jacket itself I would’ve like if you mentioned the customer service. I’ve found Canada goose to be one of the best when I come to customer service and jacket maintenance.
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Good quality,meh quality price wise to arcteryx. No brainer
I had nothing but problems with Canada goose customer service
Funny this video was in my "suggested" feed. I bought a 950 euro Canada goose jacket 3 months ago. When I asked about the weight of the down in my jacket 2 weeks after delivery, CG customer service refused to tell me, citing their concerns that the information could be used to help counterfeiters. What a crock of BS for them to withhold information about the quality of my jacket over something that doesn't concern me at all. Terrible customer service in my opinion, and now I'll never buy another one of their jackets.
Sorry to hear that this happened to you with their customer service. I feel like it's part of their marketing to not disclose the weight of the down.
@@FinancialFitness8 yes and what are they hiding is the question.
Their parkas have noticeably less down than years past, and they probably don't want to provide definitive proof that their quality is dropping. I regret ever having bought one of their parkas as well.
I've noticed that too with how little down fill their newer parkas have.
Canada Goose worth the money of course I love all my Canada Goose Jacket
links to the Arcteryx jackets?
I’m a fan of both. Arc’teryx for skiing mostly and I’m lucky enough to have a pro shell that was made in Canada back in the day. My Cerium hoody at 850 fill is probably the warmest single item of clothing I own and will take it with me this weekend in Reykjavik. I still love my CG Langford parka though :).
Arcteryx makes their jackets in Canada.
Thank you for review. It was very informative and you are very well spoken.
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That arcterix 850fp down hoodie is more for hiking and mountain climbing. It’s lightweight for that reason.
Damm you are amazingly informative, thank you.
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Catching the fabric or wind guard is not a zipper problem. It is a sewing problem. The fabric should have enough stitching to make it lie flat in proximity to the zipper.
You check out oros jackets yet. Hella nice review. Let's get one on their waterproof, windproof solargel parka!
Most people only have a jacket from the car to the house but for long term outdoor activities I would recommend Eddie Bauer because you can get them for 35% off on average and goes against Canada goose 🪿 for less money.
Agree with you about the poor value proposition of CG. Arcteryx camsoun, thorsen or therme will work better for most & cost less. If you have more to spend but want a great quality coat with brilliant weather proofing then the Arcteryx monitor down is the best out there.
For those who like the classic parka style there's also Swedish brand Fjallraven. They offer down and wool padded parkas that are highly durable and well made. The expedition down series will rival anything CG make. There's little reason for anyone who doesn't just want to pose to buy CG.
That's a great breakdown of some pretty good alternatives! Please like and subscribe for more content in the future.
And Svea parkas are great, for a half of a price of CG it keeps me varm at north of the Norway
I will have to check out svea too
can u do a video on the moose knuckle jackets 3Q compared to arcteryx
If I decide to buy a moose knuckle jacket I would do that comparison.
If a down parka requires dry cleaning it is not the fault of the down. It is more likely that the interfacings are the problem.
you should try Arcteryx Macai jacket. It has the hard shell like Beta sv and it has down insulated inside for Macai. So you do not need to wear 2 jackets.
I thought about the macai but it was a bit bulky/long and didn't fit well on me even in a small or extra small. I'm waiting for them to design another jacket or to go all out on a custom 1 eventually.
I suggest also checking out the Arcteryx Camosun or Therme parka if you don't want to buy 2 seperate jackets. Both are gortex and down filled.
Hi Sean, I'll check them out next time I stop by a store. Thanks for the suggestions!
@@FinancialFitness8 Great video with alot of details. I agree with Sean that you should compare the CG Wyndham, Macmillan and Carson jackets with the Arteryx Camosun and Therme jackets. Or at lease compare the Wyndham with a free standing Arcteryx (not 2 different jackets) jacket. Being 5'8" and 132#, I found that the Arteryx XS jackets were still a little too loose on me whereas the XC CG jackets (and the small CG fusion jackets) fit me better. I like the Arteryx better in that they are less conspicuous, simpler and cheaper in price but they just don't fit me as well.
Whenever I do buy a standalone Arc’teryx I will do another comparison. But since I'm not sponsored or anything it makes little sense for me to buy all of these myself to make a video. I haven’t found the fusion fit to be that much better for me personally, but the last time I tried them on at a store I can see they're designed with a much slimmer fit. I'll keep you guys posted whenever I do buy a replacement for the canada goose wyndham. I just haven't found exactly what I'm looking for just yet. Glad you guys both enjoyed the video!
I have to say that your review of the Canada Goose Down Parka was quite an eye opener. I would think that a parka at that price point would perform much better. It just goes to show that some outerwear companies have sacrificed quality for fashion. I wear a RAB Kinder Smock which is a pullover style Down Jacket. 650 fill.9.5 oz. Both the jacket and the down insulation are water resistant. Only $200.00 U.S.
Thanks for watching! Canada goose parkas are water resistant, but very very few are water proof so if there is enough wet weather from either rain or snow that melts, it could impact how the down insulates and cause clumping. I would say most down parkas and jackets are generally not waterproof. You typically need goretex or a similar type of material that can have water slide off the jacket. Jackets with waterproofing are more expensive than their water resistant equivalents, but there should be waterproof parkas at around $300-$500 from other brands. Hope you liked and subscribed for more content in the future.
@@FinancialFitness8 Of course the funny part is that my "go to" jacket is a RAB Zero G 1000 fill power, The jacket weighs 11oz. Has 4.5 oz of Goose Down is warm, weighs less than a t-shirt. Not at all water resistant, is wind resistant. But at $550.00 pricey. But oh so comfortable to wear.
Now that's a great piece of gear right there. I may get 1 of those eventually, thanks for mentioning it.
I have Canada Goose, Arcteryx, Moncler, and Mackage. All have their own caveats, but more recently I discovered Kanuk. Overall I prefer Kanuk for everything, but I wish they had real fur on their jackets. Their designs are amazingly streamlined, and despite using duck down use fill power of 95/5. Plus their fabrics are amazing, and it’s not worn just for hype.
Moncler for style. Mackage for their fur and great pocket design. Arcteryx for dedication to functionality and quality. Canada Goose isn’t really on my radar anymore, and I don’t like how Moose Knuckles looks..
Hi Dillon, that's really helpful, thanks for sharing and watching. I've never heard of kanuk, I'll have to check it out. Please like and subscribe if you haven't already for more content in the future.
Thanks for mentioning. One of their jackets is exactly what I was looking for. Big Arcteryx fan, only issue is finding a more stylish jacket for city wear and not a huge fan of their Veliance line.
I have two Woolrich Artic parkas one 16 years old one 15 years old both are 550 fill. I have a 15 year old Northface McMurdo parka that is 700 fill. Both brands are warm enough to wear a tee shirt under which I do often or if I wear a sweater I leave my jacket unzipped… I paid $135 for my first Woolrich $150 for the second and $150 for the Northface all were NWTs…
Yeah, it's the not being wind proof that really gets the canada goose parkas. Not quite as much the low down fill power they use. The low fill power only contributes to the weight of the parka which is not relevant for most people that just wear the coat daily to work and other casual activities.
@@FinancialFitness8 no doubt as you said most people wear the Canada Goose for style, I forgot to mention my two Woolrichs are windproof and dupont teflon coated so water beads up when it hits the coat but doesn't penetrate or soak the coat. As for the McMurdo it is heavier than the Woolys because it has a higher fill and they are made for mountain climbing hiking and being in Extreme weather like in Antartica. I love big winter coats always have I rocked bubble coats in high school in the early 80s, I have some nice down vests. Two American Eagle and one Old Navy olive green joint I caught off ebay I was surprised it was down filled I also have an old CLH vest from 2003 45% down last but not lease I had a really nice Spiewak & Sons goose down vest back in 2001 (Im wondering what happenwd to it??? ) They made nice stuff, Baltimore guys mostly and some NY guys rocked Spiewak & Sons late 90s early to mid 2000s..nice vid my friend you put alotta research in this joint…
Sounds like you did quite a bit of research and tried some great coats as well! Thanks for sharing your gear in the comments, like and subscribe if you haven't already for more content in the future. I also made a video on the Arcteryx Atom LT Hoody which uses coreloft insulation. Check that out when you get a chance too. th-cam.com/video/pB5j80BaC94/w-d-xo.html
@@FinancialFitness8 thanx my friend I will def subscribe👊🏽👊🏽
What about the thorsen parka? It’s one jacket that is also a shell with a thinner down fill. Wearing a fleece liner underneath can keep you warm. I’m debating wether having a dedicated shell is better.
Hey Ivan, I've thought about that piece as well, but I'm not sold on anything just yet. So I believe it comes down to convenience or maximum warmth whether you want 2 separate pieces or 1. Personally after testing a bunch of combinations I think having 2 separate layers is actually warmer, but it's definitely not as convenient and you lose fleece lining or down fill in the pockets of a shell to keep your hands warm unless you wear gloves. So I'm looking for something that is about hip length, at least 800 or 850 down fill, 1 piece and almost as warm as wearing 2 layers. I haven't come that close to finding an ideal parka that has the right fit and warmth in 1 piece that isn't crazy expensive. The most reasonable 1 that I've seen and liked is maybe the camosun.
A more fair comparable would be the Arcteryx THORSEN PARKA.
That's fair, but I don't have a thorsen to use for comparison.
Great video, very informative
Thanks so much, I appreciate it! Hope you like and subscribe for more content in the future.
what do you think about the parajumper brand??
I've never heard of them before until now so I have no opinion.
Always wanted to buy Arcteryx but couldn't find them with a discount price more than like 5% tops. If you have pls share the links))
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@@FinancialFitness8 Oh, got it. Thanks!
Wear in a store Therme and it worth every penny. By A LOT, waay better of Patagonia waterproof parka and cheaper NorthFace's MacMurdo is weight like 8 of Thermes))))) Gonna buy it!
Awesome, let me know how you like it if you buy 1!
If you need water proof and wind proof you need the Expedition or Snow Mantra parkas, which are certified for wear in Antarctica. These things function at more than-50F.
They're pretty heavy though. I'd be looking for something significantly lighter than those, which is why I probably will end up with something else from arcteryx when I see a piece that catches my attention eventually.
Great video! Have you ever checked out any OSC gear? They make -40C jackets that are both waterproof and windproof! Wish I bought one over my Expedition parka, much cheaper too lmao
Thanks for watching! I haven't heard of OSC, but I'll check them out. Outdoor survival canada? Please subscribe and like if you haven't already!
How are the osc jackets? They claim warmest on the planet with their -60rated jacket but idk still thinking I might splurge and get eider duck down.
Eider down while not as commercially available can get fill power as high as 1200. However the jackets are like snow mantra price point on the low end.
Hi, I still haven't tried anything from OSC, but they do seem competitively priced compared to Canada goose and Arc'teryx. I'll have to look at eider also. Please like and subscribe for more content.
@@FinancialFitness8 eider is a type of duck. A few brands use the down from them in jackets.
Cheapest one readily available is the full shield at 3500$ from Olmsted outerwear. A few other companies make them but mostly made to order. The one brand I know but am keeping to myself only has so much down per year so their workshop is only open so long every year.
For something that is cheap comparatively and also super warm. Check out feathered friends khambu puffer. 800 powerfully and nice modern materials and craftsmanship for like 700 if memory serves. One review says its good down to -40. But it's goose down but kinda unbeatable for the price point.
Most eider duck down though is harvested through a symbiotic relationship. So no animals harmed. But also means the supply gets expensive.
Used in Europe quite often. But when ordering such a jacket you can get it built to last and use quality materials. Already have the basic idea for mine when I can order it just still deciding on brands. Baffles to help with wind resistance. Going a little intense on the down fill using a decent amount at least a pound of eider maybe more. Might use recycled furs for a lining backed to a modern water proof material like goretex to protect the down. Fur on the hood but with a shaping wire. Fully water and wind proof on the outside. Built in bib set up so you can zip down the front without fully exposing your chest. Draw cords and probably vents. Fur lined and down insulated pockets.
But I work film industry so kinda need it. 13 hours outdoors in the cold lol. Also like traveling and camping and stuff so going full overkill on something that'll last decades.
Should cost me about what the full shield does maybe a bit more but the full shield or the feathered friends jacket will both be overkill for alot of people I think.
800 to 900 goose down is probably enough for most people if you don't mind a 5 ish pound coat versus like 8. Could be made lighter and as warm as some 5 ish pound coats but depends where you live. Why I'm kinda not thinking a Canada goose other then the new mountaineering jacket. Low fill power.
But Olmsted kanuk pajar mackage are all good Canadian brands.
I'm currently looking at mackage pajar moose knuckles feathered friends and triple fat goose for a winter coat right now.
Mackages warmest jacket is like 1390 Canadian but many people rate them warmer then the cheaper goose parkas and the ones that might be similar seem to cost more. Kanuk is cheaper but idk not my look. Pajar has some nice stuff might get their flagship parka with fur and down. If you don't want fur then kanuk has you covered and isn't that expensive. Like 1k for the flagship or less.
The osc flagship is technically rated at -60 though and wind and water proof with 800 fill power down. It's probably the best budget alternative as it seems like it'll be built to last Bush shit so the others are kinda lacking. Also seems to be the cheapest way to get something that'll last decades with an 800 fill power plus water and wind proofing vs resistance.
Also while better down means less needed. For super super cold and extended time it seems having the extra weight helps hold the heat in and furs can be useful as amazing natural insulation. Wool can also work super well.
@@FinancialFitness8 66 North is another brand that'll make eider down jackets as well.
But yeah they don't come cheap. Also where you start to see above 90 percent down. I've seen 95 down 5 feather once or twice.
Where is a great place to sell your Canada Goose other than E Bay ?
That's about it unless you want to use something like poshmark or go for consignment.
Great job! Thank you very much!
No problem! Thanks for watching. Hope you like and subscribe for more content in the future. I also have a video on the Arcteryx Atom LT Hoody th-cam.com/video/pB5j80BaC94/w-d-xo.html
Can you do a vid on 66 north jokla parka please that will be very helpful
If I buy 1, I will definitely do a review.
Were the Cerium and the Beta the same size? Or, did you have to size up on the Beta to accommodate the Cerium?
Thank you for the video!
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Hi, thanks for watching! Good question, the way arcteryx designs their shells, they fit them assuming you will wear an insulated layer under it so they're meant to be the same size as the layer you will wear on the inside. I'm wearing a size small in both the cerium sv and the beta sv in the video. If you're considering purchasing, please check out my affiliate links. Also, like, subscribe and check out my other arcteryx video on the Atom LT. th-cam.com/video/pB5j80BaC94/w-d-xo.html
You got a small for inner layer...is the beta sv shell a small as well?
That's correct, small for both pieces. The shells are designed to be a bit looser to accomodate a mid layer so there is no need to size up. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my other videos as well like on the Atom LT hoody.
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@@FinancialFitness8 thank you so much for your response. Please have wonderful Holidays
No problem, happy holidays to you too!
another brand to consider 66 north
Yes, I'd look at them in the future too especially for anything custom.
Practically speaking, no one beats Arc’teryx.
I agree!
Canada Goose has gone waaaay downhill in quality. I bought a Citadel back in 2015 and I remember being surprised when I noticed that it was actually duck down. Everyone assumes that it's goose down because of the brand name. I've already needed to send the parka in twice for repairs. Basically, the fabric wears itself away from just walking around. It's insane for the pricing. I was looking for a new parka this year and looked at CG and the down fill has gotten ridiculously skimpy. Like, not warm at all, plus they are losing the warmth of fur because they are now fur-free. So you really are only paying for the brand name at this point. I ended up getting a Triple FAT Goose Huron parka for less than half the price of CG but with 700 power goose down, actually waterproof and windproof material, magnetic closures, better pockets, and coyote fur.
My husband got the newer insulated version of the Arc'teryx Beta and he loves it! It's warm, waterproof, and looks amazing. Great video by the way - excellent information concisely delivered.
I appreciate the comment! Thanks for watching and I hope you switch to arc'teryx too!
@@FinancialFitness8 It's funny - I've been dealing with the Canada Goose zipper getting caught on the wind flap for so many years that I forgot it was an issue until I heard you mention it in your video.
It's not really something they likely would fix either unless the whole zipper is broken I'm guessing.
I recently picked up 2 Nike ACG Gore Tex jacket and a Jordan brand jacket. Need a good mid layer thanks.
Hi! Depends on what you're looking to use it for or how you plan to layer. But sounds like you had something in mind already. Hope you enjoyed my video! Please like and subscribe.
@@FinancialFitness8 I'm a pick up the same set up in this video it's the perfect set up
That's awesome! Glad my video was helpful for you. Could you use my affiliate links if you wouldn't mind supporting the channel?
I think a better product to Product comparison is Canada Goose to Fjallraven at least when parkas are concerned.
They're not as popular overall. Most people only know about fjallraven from seeing their backpacks.
@@FinancialFitness8 True.
Not so in Europe. Here Fjällraven is better known than Arcteryx.
@@cervelo_r3sl Fjallraven sadly only recently became available in North America and I think thats one of the reasons. However, their trousers are immensely popular here. I own several of thier products and would not buy anyone else there that much better. I will say other Euro brands are not well known here either like Noronna for example also a very superior product.
If you like trousers more slim fit try the Lundhags Makke pants. I like them much more than the Fjällraven. If you like to test not so well known brands give 66 north from Iceland a try. I love e.g. my Tindur down jacket and Reykjavik pants
Hi there. Arc’teryx has released their new Cerium SV Hoody (1000 fill). I would like to hear your suggestions on which one is warmer compared to Thorium Hoody. Also one of my friends told me that the fabric of Cerium is quite thin that the down comes out. Is that a problem I need to concern? I’m looking forward for your reply. Thanks a lot!
Hi Ralph, any down jacket will eventually have down that comes out since down fill is so compressible. The cerium SV is warmer than the thorium. If price is not an issue and you're looking for the most warmth per dollar, the cerium SV is the way to go. The outer fabric on both cerium and thorium tend to be somewhat thin to limit the weight of each jacket. Let me know which 1 you end up getting! Also, please like and subscribe if you haven’t already for more content in the future.
@@FinancialFitness8 Thanks for your advice! I will probably go for the cerium, and I will let you know my experience after the purchase. Thorium looks bulkier, and it’s heavier than the cerium(304g for the cerium and 517g for the thorium). Therefore I thought it might be warmer since there may be more down inside the garment.
Check the specs on both jackets on the arcteryx website. The cerium should have more insulation and higher quality since it's 1000 down fill. Also, since it's 1000 down fill compared to the thorium it should be lighter as you mentioned already.
Hi Brian, thank you or the video. Very informative. I would like to share some of my personal experience,. I am no supporter of Canada goose, however I think their breathability point is legit. Having said that, from what you experienced it sounds like they could make their jackets a bit more wind and possibly water resistant. The thing is, from my experience, having a waterproof and wind proof down jacket(Parka), you basically make it wet from the inside (sweat) and need to clean it. A waterproof/breathable membrane simply does not breathe in freezing temperatures. With the membrane exposed to cold air at below freezing temperatures, this has the body vapours freezing on contact of the membrane on the inside of the jacket. I think someone wanting a waterproof/breathable insulated jacket should look at synthetic Down like primaloft, coreloft and the like. Or maybe at an hydrophobic treated down (but you’d still have your sweat stuck on the inside). Having said that, the combo you showed in the video is certainly the most versatile if people don’t mind carrying more than one jacket. Take care and thank you again for the video.
Hi there, thanks for watching and leaving a comment with your experience! I appreciate it and you do raise a good point, I agree for some people breathability may be quite helpful. I have experienced EXACTLY what you mean by sweating on the inside of the coat during the spring/fall in my Arcteryx Atom LT hoody which uses coreloft as the insulation of which I did another review on separately since it's not designed for winter. But I do realize that everyone has a different level of cold tolerance, I guess mine must be pretty low since I have yet to experience that in any winter parka I've owned (and I've gone through quite a few at this point lol). Just thought this video would be helpful for people that might be in the market to buy a canada goose parka to both explain how down fill works and some of their marketing tactics since they've been getting less transparent about their price increases, down to feather ratio and down weight. Most of the important metrics that make their parkas highly functional have been decreasing each year, they've been dropping from the 90/10 down to feather ratio to 80/20 and many parkas have downgraded from goose down to duck down, in addition to the $100-$150 price increases across their parka lineup every year for the last 3-4 years. What is your go-to winter coat, just out of curiosity?
@@FinancialFitness8 I totally appreciate the information about Canada Goose. I live in the Canadian Rockies and often see people wearing those CG down jackets and still looking quite cold. I did feel they were going more for fashion than what they’re advertising for (warm). I too have gone through quite a few jackets and parkas and have a bit of a selection depending how cold it is outside. I love winter and I set up to enjoy it. Although that’s not very money wise I’m afraid. Having said that, I rarely buy anything full price. With a bit of patience you can find pretty good deals. Lately I’ve gotten Fjallraven jackets and parkas. And as a mid layer I quite like The North Face thermoball jacket. I find that it breathes and wick moisture really well, while being a good shell too when it’s not too cold. One thing I read recently and enjoyed was on the Editarod race official website about racers clothing information. Take care!
@@FinancialFitness8 and I also really like your explanation about down fill and weight. Great information well explained!
@@FinancialFitness8 one last comment, for a warm mid layer similar to your arc’teryx down, I prefer the Patagonia Fitzroy Down jacket. Although meant for low intensity activities like walking. For me anyways. Additional to the down quality and weight, there is the jacket construction. To my knowledge the Patagonia Fitzroy has boxed baffled construction. (I think that’s how it’s called). Basically, the down is contained in boxes of material that is slightly over lapping. This prevents cold spots. Cold spots is the main thing I dislike about down jackets in general. I believe Arc’teryx has jackets with a mix of down and synthetic down on specific areas to avoid cold spots. Anyways, take care!
Yep Arc'teryx generally uses synthetic in the shoulders and under the arms, the rest of the jacket is down. Thanks for the feedback. I'll take a look at what you mentioned! Please like and subscribe if you haven't already for more content in the future.
Currently buying my winter jacket and got a CG skreslet but found it way too oversized.. any suggestions on a jacket for maximum warmth with minimum layering? I kind of like to just put on a jacket over anything and know I'll be just fine. Currently looking at the Arcteryx node down jacket.
Hi! We had the exact same thought process on minimal layering. I looked at the arcteryx macai, the CG skeslet and Node. The node I ended up returning even though it's excellent and currently on sale for black Friday because the hood is not quite like their normal storm hoods. It isn't as adjustable and let's the wind in a bit, otherwise it's exactly what both of us are probably looking for. The fact that they're finally discounting the node, I think they may release a redesign next season fixing that issue, I'd recommend holding off buying it for now, or just going for it while it's 30% off and maybe you'll have a different experience than me. Let me know what you end up buying/trying!
@Financial Fitness Appreciate the quick reply! In terms of overall warmth what would be your most recommend option in the $1,100 USD range? I was going to buy a smaller size skreslet the mountaineer as well was the node and just try them all on and then after choosing one return the rest. Any other jacket I should look out for?
The node is on sale for $980, those are the 3 best I've found in that just over 1k full retail price range. The mountaineer is ok, but they've increased the price on it several times and I don't prefer how they do the diagonal hand pockets that are a bit higher than normal hand pockets. If you go any higher in price above $1,300-1,500 then you end up looking at eiderdown which is the next level of warmth. I may talk about it in a future video.
2 years later, the Wyndham is $1500 Canadian which is CRAZYYY
It's insane isn't it?? There seems to be no price ceiling for them
They can bump up the price because they're a desirable fashion item now, The big sleeve badge lets everybody know how cool and well-off (or more likely in debt) the wearer is.
Great job thank you
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Great review 🙂
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@@FinancialFitness8 Done 👍
I just received the Hybridge Jacket. The storage/gift box was crushed. Canada goose told me tough and offered a $10.00 refund. I didn't realize Canada goose was so hater hate. I bet the warranty is bull crap. I have another one. PLus I am starting to see people wearing pretty good looking fakes at the bus stop. over it.
Sorry to hear that! Hopefully you have a better experience with a different brand.
i don’t like wearing two different jackets in one wear
Hi Ken, I absolutely agree with you on this. Technically speaking it's the most efficient way to stay warm as heat gets trapped between each layer as well and you can remove layers as needed. However, I think in terms of just grabbing a jacket and going about your day, a 1 piece jacket that can keep you warm and dry is more convenient. Layering requires more thought and lots of different pieces to adapt to the weather. I'm currently looking for a 1 piece jacket that can do it all, I just haven't found it yet. Please like, subscribe and check out my other video on the Arcteryx Atom LT. th-cam.com/video/dwBJHMHfiD0/w-d-xo.html
The quality of Canada Goose jacket is number one
I think you just pay for the label. I got a futurelight 94 retro parka on summer sale 700fill goose down for £270 uk pounds and its much warmer than my arcteryx cerium sv which is 850 fill goose down.i think its a waste of money spending a thousand for a designer label jacket .
Hi Waichung, I agree, buying things just for branding especially outer wear is pretty tricky. But largely, cheaper suitable alternatives require some research or trial and error also. Video reviews can help a bit with research before purchasing. Please like and subscribe for more content!
Arcteryx ain't designer though? Just because artists cosign it,it doesn't make it designer
@@allahbless2278 supreme do stuff for north face and so does Gucci and you think its not considered designer?arcteryx do more expensive stuff in the vailence range
I consider that designer urban wear.
@@waichungsham1578 Lmao when did I talk about Northface?
I would hardly consider that designer if they just put their name to cosign it. And again, just because they cosign something it doesn't make the quality any better. That's branding and marketing.
I STILL LIKE TRIPLE FAT GOOSE AND MY ARCTERYX DONT CARE FOR THE OTHERS
Which Arc'teryx do you have?
Most of the Canada Goose range is just there to exploit the rap/ street crowd who only want the logo and have no clue about function and don’t even know that about waterproof etc and not getting down wet . Drake wearing arcteryx could end up being the worst thing for the bird.
Good point!!
Arc'teryx all day long...
Couldn't agree more!
675 for the shell alone? Lol
It's worth it if you can use it for basically a decade and still have a functional product at the end of it. Try some other brands and see if they can even come close.
It's a deal when it lasts 10 years and has a legit warranty
Exactly!! Glad you agree.
You ever heard of 66north?
I have heard of them from other subscribers, but I haven't tried any of them on in person since they're not a US retailer. Have you tried any of their gear on before?
@@FinancialFitness8 yes I own multiple pieces by them for years now. I just purchased the jokyl parka and quality is still top notch with 15 pockets and so forth.
That's awesome. Is the ordering and shipping process pretty easy too?
@@FinancialFitness8 very easy and I believe anything over $150/$250 it’s free shipping and only takes like 3/4 days to get.
Got it. I will definitely have to check them out then. Some subscribers have mentioned that they do custom orders as well, they just dont talk much about it on their website.
A "heavy" down parka is an oxymoron.
8lbs isn’t a lot to wear. And it protects way better than any arcteryx. I know, I have both.
And fill power matters but only in relation to amount of down. So if there is twice the amount of down in something that has half that amount but twice the fill power they will insulate the exact same. High fill matters most when you want the least amount of down or any other material to cut weight. So it matters most in coats made for climbing/backpacking or other endurance sports.
Same goes for sleeping bags, top quilts, or under quilts.
The Canada goose has way more down in it, more than double, than the arcteryx, and is therefore warmer. And only someone who is feeble or walking 15 miles a day with a pack would care about the weight difference.
I had both jackets too, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to make this review video. And while I agree about fill power/amount of down, it still feels like Arc'teryx can keep the cold out better especially when comparing it to the Wyndham. The cold air would also come under the parka since it's not as close to the waist and body as the cerium. Even though the Wyndham may have more down in it, since there is no drawcord to seal out the cold from the bottom of the parka it's less effective. And in the video I mentioned the weight because people who don't own a Canada goose are not aware of the weight, the weight itself isn't that big of a deal.
@@FinancialFitness8 Well, that’s not my experience at all. My experience is that Canada Goose is far warmer, Where as Arcteryx excels as active ware. If I was hiking or climbing I would take that, but if I am sitting in -15F for an extended period of time Canada Goose has no equal, that I know of anyway.
I hear you, coats are extremely personal and they don't always work for everyone. I do agree with you on some points you mentioned, like on what you just mentioned about a Canada goose parka being warmer for sitting around vs being active and taking an Arc'teryx jacket.
if its raining, you dont need a down filled jacket imo
If it's 40 degrees or so and raining without down, you'll end up being cold and rained on. It's not a good combination.
If it is "worth" the money, then it is not a luxury product.
In some respects yes, but also no. As much as you pay for branding most of the time with luxury products, there still has to be a certain amount of utility or some other appealing feature that makes it worthwhile to purchase.
@@FinancialFitness8 If warming one's ego is considered as utility, then these high prices are surely "worth" it. The truth, however, is that most people buy these luxury goods for the brand - basically a sign telling others that they are either wealthy or they are "worth" it. Think about this: would people buy a Rolex if it doesn't have that famous, easily recognizable crown? And how many people would spend $200 on Nike sneakers that doesn't have the logo, even if that pair of shoes is of the same design and quality?
Based on how you define "worth" it then not a single person would buy any luxury products at all? That doesn't seem right either regardless of how much branding is being paid for in a product, there still has to be some utility.
@@FinancialFitness8 No, like I said, many people thinks certain product is "worth it" simply because it warms his/her ego, not the intrinsic value of that product. Case and point: I know this lady who spent $$$$$ on a nice 3 carat diamond ring in France. She wore it for years and received tons of compliments from her friends. And she thought the ring was worth every single penny. Then one day, she visited a jewelry store here in the states. Since they offer a free cleaning service, she asked the jeweler to clean her diamond ring. The jeweler looked at the ring closely, took out an electronic diamond tester and tested the ring right in front of her. Turned out that 3 carat "diamond" was moissanite. Naturally she didn't believed him and went to multiple jewelers to verify. After the fourth jeweler telling her the same story, she basically got so mad and throw the ring away. The ring still had all its sparkles and even the 24 gold and 3 carat stone probably was worth more than 1 thousand dollars. But she threw it away because the ring is no longer worth anything to her. Why? Because the ring now hurts her ego, instead of warming it.
That's still a slightly different situation, but yes fair point. Those people only buy luxury goods for that reason which makes little sense, but that's their choice.
canada goose does even use goose fill, the use duck fill....which is less premium and not as insulating .
Correct! They use white duck down typically.