8020 because then you can customise. You could buy and design the whole thing yourself, which gives you the most versatility out of all the options. With 8020 if you find your rig not rigid enough you can add/change profile. Not able to get into your rig comfortably? Well you can change the design to suit you. Tubular leaves you at the mercy of who ever designed it. 8020 can also be cheaper because if you design and build it yourself you only pay for the parts you need and can add more later on. My GT1 Evo looks nothing like the orginal now all these years later.
Just getting into the sim racing game. I just purchased the TR8 pro for the design looks, small foot print, and recent 15% off discount. Pairing this with a R12 from Moza.
I have both types and I just wanted to add that if you are going to race mainly in VR then you won't be needing nor have the use for most of the items monitor racers would needed /wanted. Tubular is way sexier looking, too
Agreed on both counts! Tubular look so damn good, but just lack in terms of mounting accessories, but like you say, not necessarily important if racing in VR.
Would be great to get a comparison on some of the more entry level rigs too. I'm currently looking at options to upgrade from a Playseat Challenge to something a little more robust, so I'm looking at Playseat Trophy, GT Omega Prime Lite, that sort of price range.
The best option will likely vary depending on where you live. Aluminium profile rigs are pretty much all the same (some may offer better pedal/seat/shifter mounts). When it comes to best value I think Prime Lite wins, at least where I live. It is literally more expensive for me to buy aluminium profiles and build the cockpit myself than to get the prime lite. Aesthetics-wise playseat trophy is better but 8040 rig just offers so much more customization that spending a bit more on it was a no brainer for me. Also if you already have a seat then 8040 rig will be much cheaper than tubular cockpits. So if I were you I'd probably go for the cheapest 8040 rig available.
Good review. I would have perhaps mentioned the build times and fiddly adjustments required for profile rigs…you’re not going to have it built in a few hours like you will with a tubular rig…you need to measure distances on both sides to ensure they are equal, unless they have etched markings like some of the high end profiles…
Absolutely! A sim rig requires a good time investment. I thought I mentioned it. Sorry if I didn’t! It took me around 7 or so hours to build my 8020 rig. Over double the time it took to put together the tubular rig!
I personally prefer prefab rigs to 8020 profile rigs for the following reasons: 1. Easier to build 2. Easier to get in and out of 3. Smaller footprint 4. Better looking Also, I haven't noticed any flex except the pedal plate, however this can be strengthened or as I do, butt up against the wall. As far as flex on the wheelbase, unless you are running something like 25Nm plus, it not a problem.
SIM racing IS expensive. And so therefore I have made it a pact to myself that I will only ever buy something when it goes on sale. I am only at the very beginning stages of assembling what products I need. However I have noticed that the simseats and simrigs never go on sale and so I had to think, can I build my own??? The answer is yes, I built my own out of wood based on the p1x Pro style. It looks so similar to it that I am very happy with myself. It also cost me 0$ because I had the wood laying in my backyard that I got for free, I just had to buy bolts and fasteners.
Hi! Im assessing my options, rented flat, not much space, only r9 at 80%, p1000, would the vibration be an issue, what do you think? Id like one with a bucket seat and have the ability to adjust the seat since me and my flstm8 both race in my rig and would buy this together. He is 4cm taller than me, so not that much of a difference, but still
I use my setup at my desk, wheel base clamped to the desk with pedals on the floor. The thing is, I really want to have a proper position & setup for racing while still being at my desk… I’ve tried looking for something that’s just a seat with a pedal stand. Basically a rig without the wheel stand. I’m wondering if there’s such a thing haha
Not saure in you found a solution, but what I did was using velcro fastener. It is so stable if you can Stick It to the ground, then a small Wood Plate and you could Even Drive with loadcell. It is Not Perfect but the only thing I know regarding that. I think I will Upgrade now for 8020 because the desk doesnt gibt you that much stability .
It’s not that a tubular sim chassis is inherently weaker. The TR tubular frames are poorly designed. They need more support sections and thicker wall tubing. For example look at roll cages or Ducati frames. They do not use cantilevers (as in the wheelbase section). There is cross bracing and multiple trellis sections reinforcing the vehicle structure.
Yes this is accurate. For some reason people have the misconception that aluminum profile is more rigid than 50mm steel tubing and that is horridly incorrect, especially considering the shorter width of the profile is what's actually working to resist the torque in every aluminum profile rig I've seen
Something like a Playseat formula gets you in the closest formula position but a rig like the Sim-Lab GT1 you can raise the pedals and lean the seat to get part way there and you have a bit more flexibility in positioning than a dedicated formula rig
@@SimRacingSetupsI've seen that everything can be adjusted on the TRX and GT 1 as well as on the Playseat Sensation pro. Which one would you recommend?
My preference is for an 8020 rig like the GT1 Pro as they're more stable and customisable. I haven't raced the TRX or Playseat so cannot comment directly on those rigs.
Perhaps check out the Monkey Driver Seat…I got one (the endurance version with a custom seat finish) late last year and have been very pleased with it. Absolutely no flex in the wheel and pedal plates, that I can see or feel anyway! It is easily adjustable between formula and GT position, along with great adjustment for the wheel deck and pedal tray. It is also good value as the seat is included in the price, is extremely comfortable and easy to get in/out of 👍🏾
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8020 because then you can customise. You could buy and design the whole thing yourself, which gives you the most versatility out of all the options. With 8020 if you find your rig not rigid enough you can add/change profile. Not able to get into your rig comfortably? Well you can change the design to suit you. Tubular leaves you at the mercy of who ever designed it. 8020 can also be cheaper because if you design and build it yourself you only pay for the parts you need and can add more later on. My GT1 Evo looks nothing like the orginal now all these years later.
and if your crazy you could even anodize your whole rig to look like some hyper expensive custom piece of kit
I'll take the Track Racer TR8 Pro. Being more aesthetically pleasing to the eye and strong enough for my needs.
Just getting into the sim racing game. I just purchased the TR8 pro for the design looks, small foot print, and recent 15% off discount. Pairing this with a R12 from Moza.
About to do the same. What do you think so far.
@@johnjones276 Trak Racer boxes arrived today so I haven’t assembled yet. Still waiting on my Moza products to arrive also.
You know our vote! 😄
What is it? :)
Wicked comparion. Keep pumping the content man!
I have both types and I just wanted to add that if you are going to race mainly in VR then you won't be needing nor have the use for most of the items monitor racers would needed /wanted. Tubular is way sexier looking, too
Agreed on both counts! Tubular look so damn good, but just lack in terms of mounting accessories, but like you say, not necessarily important if racing in VR.
I went with aluminum profile because the versatility allows me to mount both my racing sim and space sim equipment to it.
Good choice! That’s the route I’ve gone aswell
Would be great to get a comparison on some of the more entry level rigs too. I'm currently looking at options to upgrade from a Playseat Challenge to something a little more robust, so I'm looking at Playseat Trophy, GT Omega Prime Lite, that sort of price range.
The best option will likely vary depending on where you live. Aluminium profile rigs are pretty much all the same (some may offer better pedal/seat/shifter mounts). When it comes to best value I think Prime Lite wins, at least where I live. It is literally more expensive for me to buy aluminium profiles and build the cockpit myself than to get the prime lite. Aesthetics-wise playseat trophy is better but 8040 rig just offers so much more customization that spending a bit more on it was a no brainer for me. Also if you already have a seat then 8040 rig will be much cheaper than tubular cockpits. So if I were you I'd probably go for the cheapest 8040 rig available.
4:03 "designed to be as solid and rigid as possible" video: shows very visible lateral deflection 😂
Good review.
I would have perhaps mentioned the build times and fiddly adjustments required for profile rigs…you’re not going to have it built in a few hours like you will with a tubular rig…you need to measure distances on both sides to ensure they are equal, unless they have etched markings like some of the high end profiles…
Absolutely! A sim rig requires a good time investment. I thought I mentioned it. Sorry if I didn’t! It took me around 7 or so hours to build my 8020 rig. Over double the time it took to put together the tubular rig!
I personally prefer prefab rigs to 8020 profile rigs for the following reasons:
1. Easier to build
2. Easier to get in and out of
3. Smaller footprint
4. Better looking
Also, I haven't noticed any flex except the pedal plate, however this can be strengthened or as I do, butt up against the wall. As far as flex on the wheelbase, unless you are running something like 25Nm plus, it not a problem.
SIM racing IS expensive. And so therefore I have made it a pact to myself that I will only ever buy something when it goes on sale. I am only at the very beginning stages of assembling what products I need. However I have noticed that the simseats and simrigs never go on sale and so I had to think, can I build my own??? The answer is yes, I built my own out of wood based on the p1x Pro style. It looks so similar to it that I am very happy with myself. It also cost me 0$ because I had the wood laying in my backyard that I got for free, I just had to buy bolts and fasteners.
Tbf they both look like awesome rigs that I’d love to have 😂❤
Hi! Im assessing my options, rented flat, not much space, only r9 at 80%, p1000, would the vibration be an issue, what do you think? Id like one with a bucket seat and have the ability to adjust the seat since me and my flstm8 both race in my rig and would buy this together. He is 4cm taller than me, so not that much of a difference, but still
The Race X Pro is the best of both worlds. Tube chassis with an optional aluminium profile side mount. I believe it's a collab with Sim Lab
That is stupid
I use my setup at my desk, wheel base clamped to the desk with pedals on the floor. The thing is, I really want to have a proper position & setup for racing while still being at my desk… I’ve tried looking for something that’s just a seat with a pedal stand. Basically a rig without the wheel stand. I’m wondering if there’s such a thing haha
Not saure in you found a solution, but what I did was using velcro fastener. It is so stable if you can Stick It to the ground, then a small Wood Plate and you could Even Drive with loadcell. It is Not Perfect but the only thing I know regarding that. I think I will Upgrade now for 8020 because the desk doesnt gibt you that much stability
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It’s not that a tubular sim chassis is inherently weaker. The TR tubular frames are poorly designed. They need more support sections and thicker wall tubing. For example look at roll cages or Ducati frames. They do not use cantilevers (as in the wheelbase section). There is cross bracing and multiple trellis sections reinforcing the vehicle structure.
Yes this is accurate. For some reason people have the misconception that aluminum profile is more rigid than 50mm steel tubing and that is horridly incorrect, especially considering the shorter width of the profile is what's actually working to resist the torque in every aluminum profile rig I've seen
What the best Formula 1? A rig with F1 or GT Seat position ? Best Regards
in my opinion playseat formula or src fx rigs look the best and most comfortable for f1
Something like a Playseat formula gets you in the closest formula position but a rig like the Sim-Lab GT1 you can raise the pedals and lean the seat to get part way there and you have a bit more flexibility in positioning than a dedicated formula rig
@@SimRacingSetupsI've seen that everything can be adjusted on the TRX and GT 1 as well as on the Playseat Sensation pro. Which one would you recommend?
My preference is for an 8020 rig like the GT1 Pro as they're more stable and customisable. I haven't raced the TRX or Playseat so cannot comment directly on those rigs.
Perhaps check out the Monkey Driver Seat…I got one (the endurance version with a custom seat finish) late last year and have been very pleased with it.
Absolutely no flex in the wheel and pedal plates, that I can see or feel anyway!
It is easily adjustable between formula and GT position, along with great adjustment for the wheel deck and pedal tray.
It is also good value as the seat is included in the price, is extremely comfortable and easy to get in/out of 👍🏾
Can the DD be nounted lower ?
I personally like the look of the 8020. I don't see any reason to go tubular other than to save money (if it's indeed cheeper)
To me 8020 is fugly as I much prefer the tubular ones reminded me of the roll cages
Fair comment. I thought the same originally
@@SimRacingSetups my last rig is the NLR fgt
Simetek k2r is one of the best rigs that isn't profile it looks good and its solid
I haven't had a chance to try it out but it does look cool!
just bought TR80 PRO
Nice! Let me know how you get on with it
F1 playseat?????
80/20 every time wins
Just stay away from the RSeat company, very bad operation.
I haven't used any of their rigs. What was your experience?