NO WAY She Learned This In 30 Days! | Drum Teacher Reacts to Kize Drum Challenge
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I'd like everybody to know that Kize explains in the description of her video the reason why the audio at the end of the video is off. I'd like to point out that I am extremely proud of how far she came in 30 days and that I stand by her performance, regardless of If sHe cHoKEd tHE cRAsH oR NoT. Irrelevant. She went from 0 to this in 30 days. It's praise worthy.
I was wondering where I can get sheet music for this song for the drums
@@Lancea_lot Unfortunately this song and many others doesn’t have accurate sheet music available. You can Google this song in particular and you’ll find multiple versions like I did none of which are doing exactly what you hear on the record nor what you hear during live versions. The first lesson with me is free so if you’d like I can share with you my thoughts on ways to play this song. Carlosplazadrums@gmail.com
I get it man, but the thing is if even if she can play it, which I hope she can, it still leaves a bad taste. It comes off as deceitful. When you present a video that doesn't even have any mics on it, you lose the benefit of the doubt. The video is meant to be there to inspire people, to show what's possible - and to those that aren't paying attention, it does that. But to those that are, we've shifted from feeling hugely upbeat to a little deflated, I know I certainly have. Honestly, I would have rather seen her put out a performance that isn't perfect. As you will know yourself - growth and progress as a musician is not even remotely linear, and it's ok to get tripped up sometimes. So I fully support people's criticism, and personally, I think she made a huge mistake not providing an honest performance at the end of the video. I get that in your position as a contributor you won't be able or won't feel able to agree, but these are still valid points all the same.
She posted a "one year ago" video on instagram where you can hear the actual in room audio. Doesn't sound like the snares are even closed and the ride is just crashing half the time. She did great learning, but the audio on the video is dishonest.
But she didn't get to this in 30 days. It's a lie. I refuse to believe she played that audio.
I just saw Kize’s video and then saw yours. Thanks for sticking up for her Carlos. I am thinking about learning to play the drums myself but have to think about the time commitment. I am a much older guy but have always loved the instrument.
Hi there! I just saw this comment. Please feel free to reach out! CarlosPlazaDrums@gmail.com the first lesson is free :-)
@DadisDad This performance is meant to inspire people who want to learn to play the drums but have heard it's too hard. Those people would have no clue about the audio issue at the end and you can literally see her physically playing the song note for note. Your beef is unwarranted. I hope you resolve whatever you've got going on in your life. Peace.
@DadisDad Okay I have a proposition for you. Let's do an online zoom call and discuss it. I'd love to talk more with somebody who feels so passionately about me being a piece of shit. Email me CarlosPlazaDrums@gmail.com we can record it and I'll put it on the channel. Ball's in your court.
@DadisDad Dude, let's dude the zoom call and discuss it. You've now continued talking shit without actually meeting man to man. We've spoken about this through youtube comments for months now. Let's have it out on video, I don't see what the problem is. Also just email me dude this comment conversation is getting tiring. Email me and we can discuss a day and time to do the zoom call. Simple as that and we can talk about ALL of it. CarlosPlazaDrums@gmail.com
@DadisDad Where you at dude? Called me out multiple times, accused me of lying and cheating and I want to actually talk face to face and now you're quiet? Let's do it! You're saying the only way you'll talk to me is if I provide something that I don't even know exists? And I would rather actually speak to you face to face before I decide to reach out to her to bug her about providing all of that. I'm here. Let's do it. Ball is in your court
My uncle is a drummer & he also talked about keeping the arms moving, though not just for fills & flams but even if you’re not using it. Keep your limbs awake & in motion with the music. Ever since i always watched great drummers & notice they’re always moving. Recently saw a video Matt Halpern play the song Lune & he isn’t just moving his arms all the time but he moves with the flow of the music.
Props to her. I bought a kit about a month ago. I only have about 10 hours of practice so far. I'm learning fairly well and I'm really enjoying it but man, it's overwhelming sometimes. Once something clicks tho, it feels awesome.
That's awesome! Stick with it! You'll be happy you did. The first lesson is free if you'd like a lesson, too. I can give you some pointers! Just email me, CarlosPlazaDrums@gmail.com
She had a piano background (percussion instrument) and her diligence is off the charts. I totally believe her, overlay or not. :) She nailed it.
dude shes asian, this is natural..
wow what a beast! thats a new world record yes? for us slower less coordinated learners, it feels good to praise those that just get it right off the bat! Great Channel & much love
World record for regular people. She is asian tho, that's considered 'slow learning' for asians!
@foljs5858 I mean stereotyping aside, I completely revere and admire her and it's awesome to praise awesomeness that we ourselves could never be
I believed her video. I play guitar and if you “woodshed” (that’s what we used to call it) you can progress quickly in a short period of time. The key is knowing how to progress along with unwavering discipline. She seemed to have the right attitude and information to make it happen.
What does woodshed mean?
@@nikibronson133 woodshed means dedicating all of your waking moments to achieving one goal.
i think her being a piano player already is a big reason why she was able to pick up the drums so quickly also some people just learn things quicker then others its just the way it is. but already being able to seperateing both her hands from playing piano would make it much easier in the beginning compared to never doing that before. i dont call my self a drummer im mainly a guitarist but i can play a bit of drums too but not super well but i have a friend who in just a few months of playing drums was way better then i ever was and he didnt even take lessons he just jammed abunch with me and all are other friends. he nailing blast beats and everything playing alot of metalcore stuff very fast. if u put ur mind to somthing and want to do it without getting discouraged u can do anything. and the audio at the end who cares if its not a live recording nothing is anymore get used to it.
Agreed!! Thanks for the comment - she worked her butt off, there's no doubt about it! Did you hear the promo for the drumming for all program? We're a non profit that pays for drum lessons and gear for kids that can't afford them - if you'd like to keep up with the program and get chances to win drum gear please text your name to 610-200-9110, you'll automatically get 50 tickets to the next monthly raffle :-)
she rocked it im impressed!
been playing 2 weeks and i think im doing well! Kize!!
Awesome!!! If you’d like some lessons let me know :-) First lesson is always free.
she also grew up playing piano which if you can play that you can play anything!!
I have watched this video so many times & I don’t know why am I watching again in the middle of the night 😂
That's awesome! Haha. Are you a drummer?
That was great Very inspiring for me I’m three months in great job🎼💙✌🏾
Bro this needs more views also how much are your lessons 😩
Thanks buddy! First lesson is free then it’s $40 an hour. Guaranteed results and fun 🤘🏼CarlosPlazaDrums@gmail.com
Hey buddy you still interested in lessons?
Watched the video, very cool. Question. I watched the whole video. My question is: It seemed like the acoustic set she played at the end of the video sounded a lot better than the electric set. Yes/No, just my imagination? Thanks
If you can play it slow
You can play it fast.
She said callouses love it sounded like a positive to me
*calluses
It is disapointing that she does not play for real... A choke without touching the cymbal at 18:38 and a crash at 20:26 the she never touched.
This has already been addressed.
Haha I see you with 4 way coordination book
Great book!
Why is it important for pinky not to be out?
GREAT question! The pinky is way more important than people think. So sticking it out like that means taking it out of the game. It also means that the main part of your grip lands on the index and thumb and this is a problem. The index should only be gently pressed on the side of the stick - almost lose, so the stick can move freely. If you squeeze with the index, you kill the natural bounce of the stick. But how will you hold the stick without the index finger? The mighty pinky! And ring finger because they kind of do things together. First lesson is free and I teach online if you're interested 🙂 CarlosPlazaDrums@gmail.com
It's quite ovbious she's not playing live and it's questionable whether or not the recording is her playing. The hat pattern is very pro sounding, that is it's articulated in a non-newbie way -- the 1/8 notes are _slightly_ delayed and softer volume which is achieved by more shoulder of the stick toward the edge of the hats on the 1/4 notes and more tip away from the edge for the 1/8 notes.
That said, good for her 😀
The snare also has the exact same sound but she is straying across the whole drum. It sounds like she is hitting the centre but mainly she is hitting around the edge of it
Agreed. where are the mics? show me that phone, CAUSE ILL BUY IT NOW
She used different audio for the final edit. She discloses this in the description of the video and has extensively explained why this occurred. Not the best look, I agree, but she definitely put the work in and learned the song!
I learned to play Traitor by Olivia Rodrigo in a span of 2 weeks. No exp of playing drums 😅 just a beginner but very eager to learn 😂
Any tips on just not focusing on the base drum so much, ill try playing (im a beginner) and I keep on messing up the base drum because I'll hit it when I'm not supposed to or I'll hit the snare or High hat when I'm not supposed to, I'm focused on to many things
Hmmm, I'd need more info. But the first lesson with me is always free - let's set something up! Email me CarlosPlazaDrums@gmail.com
Is the 4 way coordination book legit?
OMG Yes haha It's VERY difficult but worth it!
Do you still do online lessons? What do you charge?
I do indeed! The first lesson is free and I charge $220/mo thereafter for weekly hour long lessons. Email me at CarlosPlazaDrums@gmail.com to get started :-)
well done
Legit!!!
Hey I just wanted to say great video and also the link to donate is broken 🥺
Weird!! Here it is again drummingforall.com/donate
of course she quantized the song. Putting the hits in perfect time. Weel done though.
I got the bug so bad bro....
amazing! hope you can give me some tips aswell! 😉
I definitely can! First lesson is free, email me at carlosplazadrums@gmail.com and we can set up that lesson!
I'm curious, at the end of the vid you mention she was considering more lessons. Did she end up going through with it?
Unfortunately she has not continued lessons! I actually reached out to her a few months ago and she said she still wanted to but was dedicating all of her time to the channel. But once a drummer always a drummer, I wouldn’t be surprised if she gets back into it eventually
@@DrummingForAllProgram ah, I kinda figured considering the nature of her channel. It was cool to see the progress nonetheless! The syncing the bass drum with my hands was my kryptonite. Some of the patterns and involuntary foot twitches was a struggle when I tried years ago.
Hi!!! I actually saw her video which led to me to go to your site, I`m so excited to learn with you if I can. She did super well btw even if she messed up a little. I struggle playing and I have played a while.
Also yes! I knew having your pinky out isn`t supposed to happen. My band teacher plays with his pinky out and it bugs me so much 😂
Nice video 👍🏻
Can you recommend a e-drum for a bloody beginner?
Yes. please email me CarlosPlazaDrums@gmail.com so I can give you recommendations in greater detail.
What set is she using?
Rite of passage.
I would say it's impossible, but she did it.
Great vid and her focus for those 30 days was fantastic, but was wondering if she kept up with it. Her approach to set a goal of learning a favorite song right off the bat seems to be motivational and it's two years later, so I was wondering about that. Although
I do know that her channel is about a 30 day challenge to everything. Is she still studying with you?
You can't have missed the fact that the end song is just programmed drum and not her playing ?
No rim shots, almost always crashing the ride, the hi hats accents are not right, and the sound has just a consistency that you can't get without a solid experience. And of course no mics.
Surprising that you didn't notice those huge inconsistencies in that video
To be clear all of this is normal for a beginner. I find very dishonest that she tries to hide this and try to fake someone she is not, when she have shown her real progress that were already very good
I’m not sure what she had to do to make sure that the audio at the end was sufficient for her standards for her TH-cam videos but I can assure you she can play that song, I literally watched her play it multiple times.
@@DrummingForAllProgram Seeing her playing, yeah I completely believe you she can play that song.
That's what I find disappointing, she could have done it by herself and showed her true level.
Instead she showed something that could be deceiving for a beginner, because playing that song is one thing, that's doable for a beginner. But playing flawlessly is years worth of practice. Showing this clip to conclude what should be 30 days of progress is a not correct. This for me ruins the whole video, which was great otherwise
And for the one who can spot this, she just shows that she is not proud enough of her work to think it reaches her "standards".
@@theguy4361 I hear you.
Obviously it's fake. Of course she can play the song but that final performance just doesn't match the audio, always crashing the ride and not that tight and consistent on the hihat to sound like that.
Very interesting and funny video, very disappointed by the end...
She is either essentially playing 99.9 percent of the song or she learned to play 99.9 percent of the song with perfect timing to an experienced drummer playing the song--either way a tremendous accomplishment in 30 days. How anyone can say this is anything but inspirational to someone who wants to take up the drums is beyond me. And what is that audio mixing equipment sitting next to YOUR drum set used for?
I learn how to play drums from TH-cam, while my husband is a drummer 🤣🤣🤣🤣
She didn't learn this in 30 days, PERIOD, I don't care what you have to say.
Definitely don't want to start a fight, but I'm curious how you know that for a fact.
So what I do not understand is she is saying she recorded the audio on her electronic set (sounds rather too good for that unless it was put through MIDI & the sounds from a DAW or something) & yet the electronic set not even being a full size electronic set (almost half size) & she magically could adapt to an acoustic set in a few hours (if that is what she had to do)/ Why not simply show the playing on the electronic set with the audio instead of deceiving with an acoustic set she clearly was not able to play as acoustic sets take practise as you have to hit them with a constant force to make the correct loudness, whereas electronic sets are more forgiving & some only have a couple of triggering points of impact meaning they are easier to keep a constant beat & sounding.
If I remember correctly, she thought the visual of her playing on an acoustic would be more visually engaging for the big finale
What everyone is criticizing her for might not even be her fault. She went to a studio to record, if I had been playing drums for 30 days and a professional sound engineer told me "everybody uses samples to make their drumming sound better" I would probably believe him and let him be a lazy bastard and replace my playing with samples, time align it, etc. Or maybe he (or she) gave Kize the choice and spending a couple days mixing what she actually recorded to make the best of it was just out of her budget or something.
Yeah, people need to chill on criticizing her
Because it goes against the whole point of the video 😂😂
She's showing her progress and hooks you in for 8 whole minutes then doesn't show her progress. Y'all tripping by protecting her. Don't be dishonest about things let people see how far you've actually came nobody would be mad
And as a content creator she should know that would completely defeat the point of the video and tell them to use the raw audio from her best take.
Maybe she couldn't do a 30 day programming learning video, where the final challenge she hires a professional programmer to correct all her mistakes and the app works perfectly. What you think? So, all of us watching would be its true.
I've been playing 5 years and I'm not this good 🤷♂️
Email me for a free drum lesson! CarlosPlazaDrums@gmail.com
I don't get why people are so furious that the final product isn't the raw audio. Of course the raw audio is gonna sound like crap, there's no closed mics and her technique is probably bad. Give her a break, she had a month to practice from scratch and mics are expensive af. The fact that we can see her play along to the song is enough to be impressed with the circumstances she is in.
@@carrot7215 I dunno about you, but I saw the progress.
@@skyblue2708 or that audio was poorly edited audio of her playing and she didn't fully sync it up properly? Why don't you look at 2 sides of the coin instead of going full on internet dickhead?
Nah, that would be like "learning to sing in 30 days", then *lipsyncing* over someone else singing it. I just wanted to hear the actual audio from someone 30 days into learning the drums... it's not that it's not the "raw audio", it's that it isn't her playing this *at all* .
Not accurate. The correct metaphor would be Singing it and recording it, then realizing there was too much noise in the background so recording yourself singing it AGAIN at your house and then using the second recording with the footage from the first.
@@DrummingForAllProgram Dude what makes you think that I would be convinced that's her playing the drums? Do you think that engineers, producers, and drummers won't watch this? We all know that's not her. I don't care if the audio sounded bad (kit isn't even mic'd lmao). I want to hear an authentic take from someone who is 30 days into learning the drums. That's what the WHOLE video is about. I think she's super cool, I've watched every single one of her videos. As a multi-instrumentalist and producer, I would never be fooled into thinking she did this. Please prove me wrong somehow. Please.
She made a lot of progress in 30 days and her video is entertaining. Get over it. She disclosed what she did. If you don't believe the reason given, don't believe it. I don't fricking care why she did what every other professional recording musician does. Do you think the recent rooftop concert release of the Beatles is actually their one take playing? Do you think music videos are one take? George Harrison would get very nervous for live performances--there was a reason. Regardless of how this is put together, I can see that she made tremendous progress in 30 days and that is the point of the video. If you are trying to make yourself feel more important by putting her down, you failed miserably.
2:42: Hi, "Drumming For All Nonprofit". You say that Kize didn't walk blind into that drum training experience. Are you SURE she didn't walk blind into it? For it all depends on what you define as "walking in blind". She may have talked caution, but why didn't she ACT caution by simply borrowing or renting a drum set? Instead she bought a brand new expensive electronic drum set like she was playing for keeps. That was a foolishly expensive gamble. I know what I'm talking about because I have Asperger's syndrome and I learned at an early age to NEVER assume on what skills I would be able to develop just because I happened to see others being proficient, because the underlying pattern of my life was failure at whatever I tried to do. Likewise I learned at an early age not to gloat over an unexpected success because I very well might pay dearly for it later with just as devastating of a failure. Now as for that new drumset-in-a-box that Kize is carting into her living space, I DESERATELY HOPE that at least somebody --- such as that "Drummers For All" program which Kize talked about in another video --- paid for it. For it's perfectly fine if somebody sets her up for the "learn to play drums in 30 days" challenge and pays for it all --- but most foolish for her to make such a big hefty financial investment all on her own with nothing except a most foolish one-sided assumption of success. That's why seeing Kize with that big box with all that drumming equipment in it --- including the drums --- has me saying "Oh shit".
I believe Kize has since continued to play the drums which is why she bought the electronic kit!! Thanks for commenting and watching :-) Are you a drummer as well?
This is total BS! right? Nobody learns (including reading music) in 30 days to play like that
It's real! She worked her butt off!! I was very proud :-)
She looks like she could play after 30 days, but the end was clearly fake. Very deceiving for new drummers.
She explains in the description why the audio was off. I don't think this is as deceptive as you are suggesting, a new drummer won't recognize the nuanced differences between the original audio and this slightly tweaked audio.
@@DrummingForAllProgram Exactly! If a new drummer can’t recognize that it’s not the same that an issue! Because if you’re a beginner and you’ve been playing for 30 days, and you can’t achieve that sound even in a whole year your gonna get really frustrated and probably think your just not talented enough. There a lot of ways this can be hurtful, but not only that it’s just incredibly dishonest.
@@fernandodingler372 If you are a new drummer and that is the way you think, I would suggest you take up something like horseshoes or checkers.
She's asian. Of course she learned this in 30 days. There are kids who play drums and even piano at 8 years old that put adults people who have practiced 10 years to shame...
Sure
I would admire anyone learning any instrument in 30 days. I just feel like its betrayal on your own viewers and typical social media phenomenon of pretending something that isn't actually true.
She could have just shown her real progress and be honest, that she did learn a lot - which is what she did - and didn't quite nail the song to a 100% with all its accents, flams, chokes, ghostnotes, or whatnot a professional drummer is playing.
The real progress and her honestly about it, would be much more praiseworthy, than what she did and I can honestly not respect that move.
Her video is creating a false expectation for her viewers, anyone new to drums and is made specifically to fool people that dont play drums (and thus not notice it) into thinking you could play a song this complicated after "just 30 days of trying really hard"
Drums aren't very hard to play, if you can count to 4 and swing your arms around with sticks. Congrats, you are a drummer
🤣 you must be a guitar player
@@DrummingForAllProgram Well you didn't say I was wrong 🤣
@@kylep3759 🤣 Wow that was actually funny, you can't be a guitar player after all!
@@wmdpodcastclips Uh huh.
She playing so stiff
Seriously? what a laugh
What's funny?
@@DrummingForAllProgram you know why I laugh, or you just pretend that the skill was actually fake?
@@bramsinaga3524 how could it be fake, lol, you literally watch her playing throughout the whole video. Don’t even start with me on the audio at the end because there are answers to all of those questions in the description in her original video, in the comments. That doesn’t just magically nullify all of the work she put in
@@DrummingForAllProgram Why do you keep bullshitting yourself and everybody else? Clearly she didn't know how to play it as well as we hear in the audio. If she could, why would she settle for that awful visual performance? That was her best take? Even though she can apparently play it at a professional level, her best visual take was the one with all the fuck ups? Come on dude...
Yes, she learned how to play the drums in 30 days. I don't think anybody is questioning that, but her performance at the end is a complete farce and doesn't accurately portray the results of her 30 day learning experience, which completely defeats the point of the video.
Dude, you being an experienced drummer is supporting such scammers?
huh?
@@DrummingForAllProgram She put up a fake video of hers in the end, for her final performance.
You being a genuine drummer, should not support that.
She is scamming all the innocent people who are planning to learn to play the drums.
@@FarmerfrommishmiPlease read pinned comment. I understand why drummers are upset but they are missing the point. A new up and coming drummer isn't going to hear the nuances that you are hearing. Read pinned comment. I hope you will consider supporting the DFA program - we pay for drum lessons and gear for kids in the foster system. Text 610-200-9110 for more. take care!
@@DrummingForAllProgram They will not hear the nuances, but they will definitely expect themselves to sound like her audio sample after learning for a month or two, especially on the acoustic kit. So, that’s scamming.
@@Farmerfrommishmi Again, I don't agree. Sorry. When you say they will "expect themselves to sound like her" do you really think people are going to record themselves playing this same song after only playing drums for a month and then compare the audio tracks for discrepancies? No way dude. No way.