Cause placing woodcamps on the grass is just dumb. Relay on wheat farms, start bread production asap and religion. Then you can put +2/+3 taxes, produces iron and star making steel armor and blades, that you can sell for huge profits. This strategy allows me to make roughly 65,000 golds in roughly 1 hour.
I completed the skirmish trials where you have to fight against multiple Allied AI with more resources and no peace time without proper chock points so i simply set up barricade outposts and archer bank while I micromanage my economy.
@@vziiix7791 Thanks for the advice, I did complete all story missions and skirmish trials and the pig and the princess DLC quite quickly (in game time) but I simply went with reliance on Industry and spears manufacture with religion, I believe that suites my play style more since I prefer to expand early mid game and raid late-mid game and mass weapons manufacture aids me with recruiting cost efficient troops like mace men and pikemen. In my experience there are players who are just not good at micromanaging things so I raid on there over extended undefended walls to their massive brewery is worth two Hussite wagons and a couple of mantlets to destroy their economy.
I'm 8 years late, but I have something to say: I do not recommend selling the stone, since in case your enemy opts for an early raid with slaves it can easily burn your fields of wood if you do not have walls
When you create your economy buildings, do you keep in mind the various production ratios? For example, it seems to me that 2 wheat farms and 2 bakeries per 1 mill is the most efficient use of food resources. Also, one chandler seems to be able to support the normal services of 32 peasants, and so on. Do you constantly do the math in your head as you raise rations or do you prefer to place buildings based on intuition? I can't tell if your building is calculated or more of a structured chaos lol
Ricarde Ellingsworth Hello. You have a point. I actually don't know how many wheat farms or mills I need. I simply build and produce, if the production is too low, I increase it, if the production is too high, I sell the extra, therefor I constantly check my production. Is that simple. :)
I know this is like 8 years and I'm late tho something that I find valuable is if you have like alpt of food and productions it's good to sometimes even sell 🙃 the food stock for example if you have 1k or more food mostly bread, you can sell bits of it and I always sell alot of stone and iron cuz I always play defensive due to how slow I am at eco building. And I been playing against the different kinds of AI characters I have luck as long as I can get ample eco stability. Hop productions isn't bad but they take up space for wheat farms and also depending how the enemy plays it really depends how you'll be able to set up your eco or buildings. It's not bad going for hop production for early game as you won't be getting the church anytime soon from which you can swap out the early game hops and ale making for the church depending. Tho I feel like stronghold 2 it really depends on your opponent and how they play cuz even if their also building eco, they can still buy slaves and burn your stuff down or also be busy making a defense stone walls to be ready for you to attack and you'll be left without any choices. Cuz the AI seem to really know how to build their walls compared to most players I've seen and played against. And I'm so bad at the game that I mostly play team battles haha 😄 with my brother and uncle against hard AI. Or I just mess around in sandbox to build an amazing looking kingdom
@@koreancowboy42 One trick that I remember from the good old days is that the most important thing is having a good manpower-income ratio. As example, there's no point into wasting manpower, as well as food required to feed them, to build 1 mill + 2 wheat farms + 2 bakeries that produce an overall income (if you would sell the bread) lower than candles, which are/used to be the most expensive items. It's way better having 20 candles producers and sell the candles to buy food
I’m a noob and know this wouldn’t work in PVP, but you’ve essentially made a tutorial for how to build a strong gold income quick as hell in free play!
Well, good tactic, if you have a lot of starting resources and you are playing with AI, otherwise, this would burn very nicely and an early rushing players would have killed you :)
Luze Crosszeria How about you set 15 minutes of peace time or 10? This will help you avoid the eraly rushers and you can have time to at least start building your economy.
LoL i know this i 7 years old but people still play in 2022, yes playing with Ai you be ok but think playing with Ai is where you learn, i took me a long time to figure thinks out
Stronghold crusader is not only an strategy in economy, but in war too, if u do it first and doesnt care with ur base, u can lose, but if u balance both u will win
But when we play offline I mean 1 player then we have a limit of buildings to place them I think🤔🤔66 buildings then we have a problem. Thanks for all tip and help........ 😃😃😇😇
+patrick pitz Nononono the game economy works fine and is perfectly balanced. You just have to go against all reasonable conventions of how to actually build up a reasonable economy.
Why does nobody ever go food straight away to sustain double or triple rations? Sense rations give u a lot more happiness. I know its harder to sustain later on but I'm just curious on why I never see it.
Im going off with low starting gold for this strat. Usually most Trails start you with enough food to set low taxes (and/or) to survive without placing food for a few minutes. A good strat is indeed starting with mass woodcutters and if possible stone/iron quary (if you can wall or protect it). After that if you have grassland available you can start either with beer or bread production. (if you have no grass, buy wheat/hops and make bread/beer) beer is quite profitable (even if you have to buy hops but not advised on low gold start) Now in terms of defense, put your archers on you keep (range advantage) build single row walls to protect your eco (fe edge of map to your keep) depending on map you might need to do this twice. DO NOT enclose your keep, in fact it is better to have those single wall(s) have a gap close to your keep, since it acts as a indestructible tower. Put your lord and spearman etc at the entrance, protect those archers. Having an opening will make the AI go for that opening (so make use of that), you can fe wall off the shortest route but leave the longest route open, so the enemies will walk the longest route and attack you that way instead of knocking down that flimsy wall Now in terms of army you have 2 choices (depends how much gold is given to you), crusader troops are cheaper but require you to set up weapon production (which is expensive as hell) but if there are lot of enemy lords start with merc camp and get Arabian archers since most AI's will send a lot of troops but not always the most armoured, so the more archers you have the better. Best weapon production to start is crossbow + plate. As mid/late game enemies will start throwing armoured and crossbow archers at you and since crossbow/archers on a tower get range and defense advantage you you can pick them off quite nicely. Depending on the amount of enemy AI's 25-50 crossbow archers + 25-50 archers on keep/grand tower is all you need for defending the gap at your keep, you might have to occasional fast straggler getting through but that's what your melee troops/lord is for at that gap Now for the attack, the more enemy lords there are the lower the max troop count you can make. Attack the enemy lord that sends the most dangerous troops (mass crossbows). Since when you kill 1 lord the troops count will go up (but that also counts for the enemies). A good army comp is +- 50 swordsmen, a few (crossbow)archers (+-25-50 to protect your siege) and your preferred siege ( i always for 5 trebs since they can outrange everything except for ballista towers) and protect the siege with mobile shields. To siege I would say go for the ballista/catapult towers, after that go for the towers/walls/buildings that house troops, and set fire to his eco. When you see/feel he doesn't have enough defensive troops on surrounding walls/tower send in those 50 swordsman to the keep and kill the lord (it might take 2 tries if he has a lot of troops on the keep) but that's about it
Appreciate the video! I hope you don't mind me asking questions, I wish to learn more about this fantastic game although I'm late to the party :D At the start, 2:30 , you decide to go for hops/beer production - why would you pick this over candles/church first? It seems to me that hops/beer is the more resource intensive/slower production route vs the church alternative. In addition I focus 100% on bread production as food and sell my excess quantities - autobuy the other foods in exchange for +15 popularity bonus but I don't see you doing this. It's not efficient to do so?
@@SergiuHellDragoonHQ I'll look for more recent content on your channel then! Thanks. What about the food strategy (mass bread + sell overproduction), buy rest for pop bonus
Marlon Lindner No, he didn't win. For 2 reasons. I already had about 2.000 Gold and my gold was increasing 10 times faster than his. You could build army after army. Even if you are a very bad tactician, you can rely on numbers since you have a lot of gold. Compare his castle with mine and you will know that he had no chance at all. :)
Yes, the oppnent won the game, he maybe can produce some unit in early game, but 15 minutes later he get destroyed by the opponent because he do not produce any food and he just take caring of that in thw whole of game, its make oppnent have an easy way to defeat this fucking idiot king.
if i change to no rations, I get -30 from that, but I noticed you can get -15, also my Wood house is much smaller than yours? different type of versions?
On houses, the further you build a house away from your keep, the less population it can support. A house can support between 2-8 peasants (8 for houses almost next to your keep, 2 for the most far away).
Hmm, while the tactic is no use at the early ( it will simply fail if other player realized wat we're doing). but dat Production Shifting method prove to be a smart move. just like he destroyed all the woodcutter and shifting production to other, it's quite Flexible cuz in this way u can easily choose either Devensive focus or Offensive.
@sergiuHellDragoonHQ What about the Armory? Do you have any plan to make it close to the stock but in a safer place that is not by your wall. I mean if the enemy destroys the armory, one could lose all. Thanks for the video
Armory has the highest health of all buildings in the game along with the Grand Tower (40,000). For reference, a Gatehouse has 20,000 HP. It's also immune to fire. Armories are not vulnerable buildings like granaries are. strongholdcrusader2.com/stats.html
Vlad Mititelu You are right, you can focus candles more if you have little grass, or, if you have little grass and Iron, you can focus Candles and Armor production more and you will boost your economy. Make use of everything you have! That's the main RULE! :)
I feel like this strategy is overly reliant on the peace time , i mean it works but only when you have enough time .
Cause placing woodcamps on the grass is just dumb. Relay on wheat farms, start bread production asap and religion. Then you can put +2/+3 taxes, produces iron and star making steel armor and blades, that you can sell for huge profits. This strategy allows me to make roughly 65,000 golds in roughly 1 hour.
I completed the skirmish trials where you have to fight against multiple Allied AI with more resources and no peace time without proper chock points so i simply set up barricade outposts and archer bank while I micromanage my economy.
@@vziiix7791 Thanks for the advice, I did complete all story missions and skirmish trials and the pig and the princess DLC quite quickly (in game time) but I simply went with reliance on Industry and spears manufacture with religion, I believe that suites my play style more since I prefer to expand early mid game and raid late-mid game and mass weapons manufacture aids me with recruiting cost efficient troops like mace men and pikemen.
In my experience there are players who are just not good at micromanaging things so I raid on there over extended undefended walls to their massive brewery is worth two Hussite wagons and a couple of mantlets to destroy their economy.
@@vziiix7791 nice idea
@@vziiix7791 Interesting. Surely you have a few wood farms. If not where do you get your wood from - you buy them?
Meanwhile in my castle : W O O D N E E D E D M I LORD
I'm 8 years late, but I have something to say:
I do not recommend selling the stone, since in case your enemy opts for an early raid with slaves it can easily burn your fields of wood if you do not have walls
He did pick 15 minutes of peace though so in that particular case it is not needed!
"Fisting Rations" : D
+Alex Noble "Piss time is almost over"
+`Scorpio'M normal in medieval time zone
no shit
Lol that granary placement
Hahhah I'm dead 😂
"i dont know anything about the opponent" "my win chances are about 80%"
thanks it was very helpful!!
danny refael I am glad! :)
he refuse to give his peasants food and tell them to drink beer instead. They happily accepted.
When you create your economy buildings, do you keep in mind the various production ratios? For example, it seems to me that 2 wheat farms and 2 bakeries per 1 mill is the most efficient use of food resources. Also, one chandler seems to be able to support the normal services of 32 peasants, and so on. Do you constantly do the math in your head as you raise rations or do you prefer to place buildings based on intuition? I can't tell if your building is calculated or more of a structured chaos lol
Ricarde Ellingsworth Hello. You have a point. I actually don't know how many wheat farms or mills I need. I simply build and produce, if the production is too low, I increase it, if the production is too high, I sell the extra, therefor I constantly check my production. Is that simple. :)
I know this is like 8 years and I'm late tho something that I find valuable is if you have like alpt of food and productions it's good to sometimes even sell 🙃 the food stock for example if you have 1k or more food mostly bread, you can sell bits of it and I always sell alot of stone and iron cuz I always play defensive due to how slow I am at eco building. And I been playing against the different kinds of AI characters I have luck as long as I can get ample eco stability.
Hop productions isn't bad but they take up space for wheat farms and also depending how the enemy plays it really depends how you'll be able to set up your eco or buildings. It's not bad going for hop production for early game as you won't be getting the church anytime soon from which you can swap out the early game hops and ale making for the church depending.
Tho I feel like stronghold 2 it really depends on your opponent and how they play cuz even if their also building eco, they can still buy slaves and burn your stuff down or also be busy making a defense stone walls to be ready for you to attack and you'll be left without any choices. Cuz the AI seem to really know how to build their walls compared to most players I've seen and played against. And I'm so bad at the game that I mostly play team battles haha 😄 with my brother and uncle against hard AI. Or I just mess around in sandbox to build an amazing looking kingdom
@@koreancowboy42 One trick that I remember from the good old days is that the most important thing is having a good manpower-income ratio. As example, there's no point into wasting manpower, as well as food required to feed them, to build 1 mill + 2 wheat farms + 2 bakeries that produce an overall income (if you would sell the bread) lower than candles, which are/used to be the most expensive items. It's way better having 20 candles producers and sell the candles to buy food
Been doing it all wrong!.. wow thanks for the lecture :) thumbs op
I am glad I could Help :)
I’m a noob and know this wouldn’t work in PVP, but you’ve essentially made a tutorial for how to build a strong gold income quick as hell in free play!
Yeah.... pvp it's completely different cuz players are unpredictable at times
I was hoping for you to defeat the guy too .. but an awesome guide none the less...
Thanks for making another Guide
Sergiu, you are truly amazing! I love your stuff!
Oh dude im watching your vids from sometimes for few years since you do content on many games i love.
Nice to see you hitting a million. Good Job
I learned everything about this game from you. And now i can say im good player
Thanks for this
Thank you, you helped me a lot
thanks for this video! it helped me a lot!
Wow, Great strategy bro
you re excellent man
15:30 and than with only his starting army, player 1 has been overrun by a handful of mercearies and never recovered his economy and lost the game.
Easy economies:
1# lots of bread (if oasis available)
2# sell your stone, build strategically.
Fisting rations?
Btw I am still watching, but it will be funny if the enemy just burns down everything with a few carts, that economy though.
BORISLAV IGNATOV
i think peasants like getting fisted...
Great guide, totally crushed my friends!
It realized the transition from feudal times to capital times.
Well, good tactic, if you have a lot of starting resources and you are playing with AI, otherwise, this would burn very nicely and an early rushing players would have killed you :)
Luze Crosszeria How about you set 15 minutes of peace time or 10? This will help you avoid the eraly rushers and you can have time to at least start building your economy.
Well, that could work pretty nicely. Thanks!
LoL i know this i 7 years old but people still play in 2022, yes playing with Ai you be ok but think playing with Ai is where you learn, i took me a long time to figure thinks out
I think this economy works well only with at least medium initial resources. But i have to try myself.
I love it bro
Stronghold crusader is not only an strategy in economy, but in war too, if u do it first and doesnt care with ur base, u can lose, but if u balance both u will win
That's easy to say than done considering it all depends on your opponent
Thanks man
Good guide man, not many views though.
Thanks for this good describe :))
Thank you
Beautiful Base :D
But when we play offline I mean 1 player then we have a limit of buildings to place them I think🤔🤔66 buildings then we have a problem. Thanks for all tip and help........ 😃😃😇😇
Wonder how devastating a fire would be...
Ah, one of my favourite tactics
it is a good tactic! but most of the maps you are in lack of space,, guess i need a lesson of effictive placement of buildings
Oil is the best choice for selling...
weapons better
This is literally soooo good but definitely needs alottt of time
What are Ratians and why are you Fisting them 😲8:22
thats for showing me how to play the game
Don't you think that it's kind of lame that the most efficient strategy for no rush is to just forgo food for the first 5 or so min.
+patrick pitz Nononono the game economy works fine and is perfectly balanced. You just have to go against all reasonable conventions of how to actually build up a reasonable economy.
I got game on GOG for 3 euro but steam is 20 euro is there a difference? Is on Steam updated game or same?
Can I play SC2 Multiplayer 1v1 without buying the game?
guys, how can i make an automaticlly order for my troop.
order trroops continusly
Khaled Absi That can't be done. You have to always make them :P
how to order army repeatedly?
How the hell does he get such a huge housing bonus, upwards to +35 ? I've never seen mine more than +10 and I have way more spare houses than he does.
When you craft units and give peasants work it also boosts
Its old ver I believe
sergiu were you high doing this? wasted all that grass on woodcutters.....
why do I get -30 for no rations and you get -15? Has there been an update to game rendering this tactic less effective?
thanks alot
is the tactic still good ? now u can't get the bonus +15 popularity from your granary if u're not giving food at all to ur peasants
relying on piss time to have a chance... what a strong player...
awsome ! a units guide plz
Why does nobody ever go food straight away to sustain double or triple rations? Sense rations give u a lot more happiness. I know its harder to sustain later on but I'm just curious on why I never see it.
@ps4andmore There was a patch and this tactic is not so efficient anymore.
13:46 fisting rations
ahhaha :D
Why do I need to build houses next to the main fortress?
@Дак.СРБ found out you have more peasants inside if its closer ;)
as a veteran of stronghold , you want good economy you feed your peasants ale and sell bread
tell me name of that map
If you have more houses = more peasants does that mean you need to make more candles, ale and food?
Sirian Yvanovich yes
If you don’t give em more food,ale or candles you will lose popularity
How i do this when there are bots constantly attacking me????
Im going off with low starting gold for this strat.
Usually most Trails start you with enough food to set low taxes (and/or) to survive without placing food for a few minutes. A good strat is indeed starting with mass woodcutters and if possible stone/iron quary (if you can wall or protect it). After that if you have grassland available you can start either with beer or bread production. (if you have no grass, buy wheat/hops and make bread/beer) beer is quite profitable (even if you have to buy hops but not advised on low gold start)
Now in terms of defense, put your archers on you keep (range advantage) build single row walls to protect your eco (fe edge of map to your keep) depending on map you might need to do this twice. DO NOT enclose your keep, in fact it is better to have those single wall(s) have a gap close to your keep, since it acts as a indestructible tower. Put your lord and spearman etc at the entrance, protect those archers. Having an opening will make the AI go for that opening (so make use of that), you can fe wall off the shortest route but leave the longest route open, so the enemies will walk the longest route and attack you that way instead of knocking down that flimsy wall
Now in terms of army you have 2 choices (depends how much gold is given to you), crusader troops are cheaper but require you to set up weapon production (which is expensive as hell) but if there are lot of enemy lords start with merc camp and get Arabian archers since most AI's will send a lot of troops but not always the most armoured, so the more archers you have the better. Best weapon production to start is crossbow + plate. As mid/late game enemies will start throwing armoured and crossbow archers at you and since crossbow/archers on a tower get range and defense advantage you you can pick them off quite nicely. Depending on the amount of enemy AI's 25-50 crossbow archers + 25-50 archers on keep/grand tower is all you need for defending the gap at your keep, you might have to occasional fast straggler getting through but that's what your melee troops/lord is for at that gap
Now for the attack, the more enemy lords there are the lower the max troop count you can make. Attack the enemy lord that sends the most dangerous troops (mass crossbows). Since when you kill 1 lord the troops count will go up (but that also counts for the enemies).
A good army comp is +- 50 swordsmen, a few (crossbow)archers (+-25-50 to protect your siege) and your preferred siege ( i always for 5 trebs since they can outrange everything except for ballista towers) and protect the siege with mobile shields. To siege I would say go for the ballista/catapult towers, after that go for the towers/walls/buildings that house troops, and set fire to his eco. When you see/feel he doesn't have enough defensive troops on surrounding walls/tower send in those 50 swordsman to the keep and kill the lord (it might take 2 tries if he has a lot of troops on the keep) but that's about it
How did you swich off buildings limit?
thanks! because of the OP economy i dont have to attack with mercenaries anymore now i can spam templar knights lol
You said it, bother.
This is awesome.
Appreciate the video! I hope you don't mind me asking questions, I wish to learn more about this fantastic game although I'm late to the party :D
At the start, 2:30 , you decide to go for hops/beer production - why would you pick this over candles/church first? It seems to me that hops/beer is the more resource intensive/slower production route vs the church alternative.
In addition I focus 100% on bread production as food and sell my excess quantities - autobuy the other foods in exchange for +15 popularity bonus but I don't see you doing this. It's not efficient to do so?
The guide is outdated. You can go for candles production, it's indeed more efficient.
@@SergiuHellDragoonHQ I'll look for more recent content on your channel then! Thanks. What about the food strategy (mass bread + sell overproduction), buy rest for pop bonus
How to turn around of sreen. and i want to now key on keybord all to play the game please.
how did you get the amount of your buildings and troops that high???
I love stronghold games
What am i supposed to do when they attack since i have no soldiers?
+Kakka Pöksy you have your begging troops, use them well
Just try to build faster and have 750 starting gold so you can get going early
you don´t showed us how you beat him so maybe he won?:D
Marlon Lindner No, he didn't win. For 2 reasons. I already had about 2.000 Gold and my gold was increasing 10 times faster than his. You could build army after army. Even if you are a very bad tactician, you can rely on numbers since you have a lot of gold. Compare his castle with mine and you will know that he had no chance at all. :)
On the first look yes but maybe he is a sectret Pro and it was all tacticO_o
Yes, the oppnent won the game, he maybe can produce some unit in early game, but 15 minutes later he get destroyed by the opponent because he do not produce any food and he just take caring of that in thw whole of game, its make oppnent have an easy way to defeat this fucking idiot king.
Yes... the "fisting rations"...
lol
Fisting productions... lol
if i change to no rations, I get -30 from that, but I noticed you can get -15, also my Wood house is much smaller than yours? different type of versions?
+
On houses, the further you build a house away from your keep, the less population it can support. A house can support between 2-8 peasants (8 for houses almost next to your keep, 2 for the most far away).
This video was posted around 4 years ago so it must be different versions.
Hmm, while the tactic is no use at the early ( it will simply fail if other player realized wat we're doing).
but dat Production Shifting method prove to be a smart move.
just like he destroyed all the woodcutter and shifting production to other, it's quite Flexible cuz in this way u can easily choose either Devensive focus or Offensive.
People keep saying that it doesnt work in early game and nobody seem to notice the 15min peace time?!
how to play stronghold crusader 2 online?
rishikesh betigeri buy it maybe?? IT is 1.20 on g2a
How can u change side of the building?
By the way, is buying Stronghold Crusader 2 on your link, Sergiu, almost 40 % cheaper than on steam???
formerdave94 30-40%, but it's cheaper. :)
When I givin no food, it s dooing -30
This seems helpfull to me.
This is why i dont play multiplayer because the woodcutters spam, horse archers..
is this still working?
No. no food is penalized by -30 pop.
yes it is, just give half food instead of none
PS2Damon lol an actov one
@sergiuHellDragoonHQ What about the Armory? Do you have any plan to make it close to the stock but in a safer place that is not by your wall. I mean if the enemy destroys the armory, one could lose all. Thanks for the video
Armory has the highest health of all buildings in the game along with the Grand Tower (40,000). For reference, a Gatehouse has 20,000 HP. It's also immune to fire. Armories are not vulnerable buildings like granaries are.
strongholdcrusader2.com/stats.html
can the stockpile get full? and can i place more than one?
You have series problem with talk :(
How to rotate a camera?
Q or E
Does this guide has anything to do with what i told u 4 days ago?
Ciubotariu Andrei Yes, but you were not the only one who asked for such a guide. Therefor I made it. :)
You should of mined iron and sold in market and increased food production for bread, when you had your granary far away I cringe 😬
Very good guide for economy but there is a little big problem, the resources on every map are different so...
Vlad Mititelu You are right, you can focus candles more if you have little grass, or, if you have little grass and Iron, you can focus Candles and Armor production more and you will boost your economy. Make use of everything you have! That's the main RULE! :)
What name The map of You important playing
Doing too much for earn...you only need iron, stone and farms to invest in. then auto sell options. you will get lot of money very quickly
Giving them no food makes -30 points, not -15. Why?
+Marten Finke updates I guess
ah okay, thank you man ^^
Marten Finke And its understandable I'm sure everyone would get mad if they were given no food
+Doge Karate thats right. but i would be even mader if the government wont give beer
+Marten Finke is it -30 points with 4 types of food????? because 4 types of food gives +15
You place things but don't explain what it is and why
Food production is too inefficient and is like a black hole if you want more popularity from it. People can efficiently eat everything…
Not if you balance it with how far every thing is placed, limit walking distance for farmers and bakers to the stockpile
does anyone knows how to play this multiplayer for free??? pls answer me :(
Nika Kenkebashvili ur greedy dude its like 91 cents on G2A.COM
the whole game is
@@hamzasharif619 20 $ at steam
Will he check old comments. Pls heart?
You should build up yes you have a bad time in the beginning but stable and then spring your eco not I his order but around the San base stuff
crusader 2 is very realistic. wow. and I thought people need food to work. Im so stupid LOL
nice
Sa inteleg ca esti roman?
how can i get this game ?
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