Pay attention to Butch in this scene. He seems open to the idea of going to war at first, but he still needs Phil to sell him on the reasons for it. Phil can't do that. He blows it. Butch even tries to help get the ball rolling by talking business to Angelo about how New Jersey's "redundant upper management" is decreasing their shares of the profits. Phil cuts him off soon afterwards because that's irrelevant to him. This has nothing to do with business or bottom lines- just Phil's ego. He minimizes the deaths of Coco, Fat Dom Gamiello, and even his own little brother Billy as reasons for going to war while focusing instead on Tony Soprano having not served time in prison like he has. Why's that so important, you ask? Because it reveals Phil's true motives: It isn't about business or the correct procedures used during Made Man ceremonies. Just his deep rooted bitterness for anyone who's not also sacrificed 1/3 of their lifetimes to prison like himself. Furthermore, it demonstrates why Phil could've never won this war anyway. He was leading his men into battle while making the cause all about him. He dragged them into an unpopular war over unquantifiable reasons. Reasons incapable of being resolved at the negotiating table afterwards, as it's supposed to be resolved. Phil believes his 20 year prison sentence gives him free rein to do whatever the hell he wants now that he's boss. Phil is a horrible Mafia don. He's an ineffective and cowardly leader who believes every mobster in New York owes him their lives now because he didn't rat them out in prison when he very easily could have. No matter how often he reminds everyone else that he "...did his time like a man", he secretly hates himself for it. He regrets having actually done all the things he says affords him the utmost honor and respect in their secret society. That's where Phil loses Butch, Little Carmine, and eventually his entire family's support for this war. He made it all about himself. His individual ideology; his personal musings on Cosa Nostra. Not about business or anything else that's in the Commission charter for going to war with another family. He ultimately loses this war as a result of making it about his individual vanity, yet fighting it with the lives of others because he believes everyone now owes him their lives anyway as a result of him staying silent for 20 years. It's a distorted god complex that Phil has been concealing for several years now, but is finally revealed in earnest for the first time in this scene here. To guys like Phil, their own personal misfortunes will always outweigh the values of the men he's leading.
@@JB-qr2jq i dont think tony killed him but tony curb stomped his ass for being out of line with meadow while he was drunk and u dont mess with a bosses children or family
Not only him. De Niro and Pesci too. That conversation on the desert between them in the "Casino" wasn't in the script. Scorsese just let them talk. The same about "funny guy" scene in Goodfellas. It was Pesci's idea and only him and Liotta knew about it. Others just watched and tried to figure out what was going on.
@@Marvin-dg8vj Not necessarily. Sopranos started about 23 years ago and the series finished in early 2007, 15 years ago. The show cast had a lot of middle aged and older actors so its not crazy that a few have died since. RIP to all of them.
Johnny Cakes and Mustang Sally gone too in the last couple of years. Johnny Suicide and Mustang fatal drug overdose in his N.Y.C apartment. And Minn froze to death in her N.Y.C apartment when the landlord turned off the building boilers to fix it. All 3 Departed.
I love how Phil says" "He's never been in the can... not really." As if this is a point of being a true gangster. As Paulie says "In my book, you get points for staying out of the can!"
True, but Phil is always talking about doing his 20 years in the can, as if he was innocent and did the time as a favor to protect other mob members. Tony B was the same, although he never talked about it, he did a stretch to protect Tony S. Some mob guys think jail time is a honor I guess..
He's right. Any criminal organization or gang will give you respect for doing your time without cooperating with law enforcement. I can't think of a way to prove yourself more in that world than that.
It means anyone that doesn't agree with me is wearing Cement shoes and gone. Phil was a bottom line guy. And he had a point as much as I detested him. That pygmy thing over in Jersey was a fuking joke. That Jersey crew was totally dysfunctional.
1:48 "There's no scraps in my scrapbook." *Al and Phil look at each other like "Huh?? What's that mean?"* It was little touches like that that made this show so great 😂😂😂
@@airbo7 Frank Vincent (Phil Leotardo) was in Goodfellas as a character who had a meme-worthy insult for Joe Pesci: "Go get you fucking shinebox". Because Pesci's character was a short, tough guy gangster and Frank Vicent compared him to a shoe shine boy.
As much as I love Tony and the guys, I can really see where he is coming from. The whole time I watched the show, and loved it, I had the same kinda thoughts as Phil does. The line about "they are nothing more then a glorified crew" really struck. Great writing and show.
Well there's less people in the entire state of New Jersey than in the city of New York alone .. ofc their outfit would be smaller. But they were still lethal and got down $$.
Bologna. The whole “we’re New York, we’re special because…uhh New York” smugness always rubbed me the wrong way. The NJ crew ate, earned and got down like everybody else. Imo, Phil desperately trying to reason with moving in on Tony was emphasized in the dialogue. And fwiw, the NJ did draw blood when opening the next books (remember when Christopher and Eugene were made), making Phil’s justification unmerited and lame.
Just he forgot that Coco seriously insulted Tony's daughter. Such disrespect for family members, especially women, is absolutely unacceptable and against all rules. So Phil, as a man following rules, should make a deal with Tony because perhaps he moved too far but Coco had to be punished somehow. Ralph almost got killed for a joke about Ginny Sack in front of other guys, when she wasn't there. Coco offended Meadow directly and in much worse way.
@@kebabkebob7808 Unfortunately yes: Frank Vincent ("Phil") 1937-2017, Greg Antonacci ("Butch") 1947-2017, John Ciarcia ("Albie") 1940-2015. A bit of trivia: John Ciarcia also had a small part in Goodfellas as one of Billy Batts crew. He sits next to Billy Batts (Frank Vincent) in the bar in the now (in)famous "Shinebox" scene.
This scene is incredible. Phil's golden lines of dialogue keep on coming, and I love Albie and Butchie's reaction to his hotheadedness. Especially the 'please huh' at 1:11 and their confused and puzzled looks at 1:51 following the scrapbook quote. Also, Phil's idea that going to prison somehow validates you as a true gangster is strange to say the least.
The conversation went we either go with Phil's advice or turn on him and meet with the Soprano crew in New Jersey to finish Phil off. They chose to meet in New Jersey and plan Phil's execution. I was very surprised Carmine Junior was there at that meeting and gave the okay to take Phil out. I would have sided with Frank Vincent quite frankly. The Jersey crew was dysfunctional and problematic. And they did lots of quiet deals without sharing with the New York crew who had many more associates as Phil pointed out. There's no scraps in my scrapbook either. Frank Vincent was the best actor on the Sopranos .Followed by Johnny Sac. Tony Soprano gets honorable mention. imo
@@MichaelGiordano777 Yes! Phil and John (and of course Carmine Sr) were the real deal. With Ercole Di Meo and Jackie Sr gone, the Di Meo Family was done for. Tony was too selfish, and the people around him too incompetent.
@@MichaelGiordano777 As if NY weren't constantly seeding tension and dragging people into their own drama. The Jersey family had no obligation to include NY in all of their deals, not to mention the "dysfunctional and problematic" crew made more money than what Carmine or Johnny brought to the table in every joint partnership they had. Frankly half the time NY came off as jealous and threatened that such a small family could command so much territory, with assets ranging from Philadelphia to Miami all the way to sicily, with so little while Phil's family couldn't even stay united on the most petty of issues. It took Tony B going rogue and even that was partly NY's fault. Phil started an unneccessary war, without a commission okay, without even the whole support of his own family because they knew an urban guerilla war with the Sopranos had zero percentage. Carmine and Johnny sack knew they could never take Jersey. Not without wasting more soldiers and money than it would ever be worth, and would certainly never be able to hold it. Otherwise they would've moved in decades ago. NY needed the Sopranos more than they cared to admit, but Phil was an old fool hopelessly out of step with the current street politics. He could never outsmart Tony even with all his buttons, and his ego inevitably got him killed.
@@bossshxtonly Wire is superior and had no real weak seasons. You can argue the last season was the weakest with the serial killer plot but eh whatever. Sopranos fell off pretty hard in its later seasons. They had to do a bunch of rewrites for S4 because of 9/11 and you can tell. The quality dipped BIG TIME.
Sopranos numero uno above The Wire and Breaking bad . And trust me I love , the Wire and Breaking bad , epic . And The Sopranos , still , tops em both , bar-none…
@@bossshxtonly Sorpanos came first . Filmed first . Then the wire , then breaking bad which came out in 2008 . And Sopranos is #1 , Breaking bad #2, The wire #3 . And I love BB and the wire , love . But they DONT top the Sopranos . Sorry .
Meanwhile, the associates, kick up to them. I've seen Tony stuff an envelope in Sil's coat pocket back when they were discussing telephone calling cards.
I am so glad Frank Vincent lived long enough for this role. He played mostly bit parts his whole life, this is the only major starring role of his that I know of - and he knocked it out of the park, I think everyone agrees that he was perfect for the role.
When he first came in S5 I thought it was just another Goodfellas type cameo for the sake of cameo but Phil became one of my favorite characters and arguably the best character of his career.
Half the watershed killings in this series would've never happened had Carmine Sr. lived for a few years longer. Everything went to shit once the NY crew was deprived of his captainship.
Frank Vincent was a perfect Mob Character. With film credits like Raging Bull, Goodfellas, Casino and Sopranos Phil Leotardo, Frank was one of the best. RIP 2017.
Some of his best sayings in one scene... couple three things... there's no scraps in my scrapbook... that pygmy thing in Jersey. Phil & Johnny Sac, two of the best characters.
I love how these guys bring up family and all these other examples of BS disrespect to make their point. Phil is talking about murdering a man and brings up how Tony jumped Junior to become boss and says, "his father's brother" just for added emphasis
Phil was wrong: the only guys we saw made in Jersey was Chris and Gene in season 3. They got their fingers pricked and there was a gun and sword on the table. Phil was just coming up with excuses to solidify his desire to wipe the Soprano crew out since he got out the can.
@@opusepynomus9995 I've heard the community speculates and theorizes that Phil would have been in for around two decades. Don't quote me on this though. It's been a while since I've researched this and I'm a little foggy on the details.
There were probably always rumours flying out the 5 families about how NJ weren't nearly as "real" as they were, whether there was any basis to the rumours or not. It was just ome of the ways NY looked down on NJ. I always took it like he was commenting on these rumours, presuming they were fact.
I read somewhere that the line "No Gun & Sword on the Table" Was written in this scene because Members of the Mafia told either David Chase himself or James Gandolfini (I can't recall who) That the making scene in the third season wasn't accurate to Real Life. One of the mistakes they mentioned was the lack of a Gun and Sword on the table.
The actor that plays Phil is fantastic. He understands these characters. Not sure if it’s art imitating life or what, but he’s good in everything - Soprano’s, Goodfellas, Casino, etc.
Easily my favorite scene. Theres a lot of fun details. He claims guys dont get their fingers pricked when Chris and Eugene definitely did. He claims Tony cheated his way to the title even though they 3 did the exact same very recently (please, huh). And I love how its Butch and Phil trying to convince Alphie. So many great lines but "I agree in spirit but I gotta counsel" might be the best of the whole show. It gives such a fun insight into the character. Also notice that despite Phil's opening, he still has the only justified reaction (take out an entire fucking family??) They all define their place so well and of course phil's way of talking is priceless.
@@harshtruth9148 Bert was Jersey crew but since their dinner was together and Phil was there, it may have been in NY. Phil was looking for a reason to kill Tony haha
1) Butch tries to push Phil into killing Tony. Phil says "kill a boss? I won't do that". 2) Phil orders a hit on Tony Soprano and his entire family. 3) When the going gets tough, Butch sells out Phil in a private meeting with Tony. Phil gets murdered. Butch takes over Phil's job. Just business.....
That's the thing about the LCN. These people aren't your true friends. And on top of that, their "thing" is even more important than their own personal families.
I always thought that the scrapbook thing was pretty cool. Phil basically says that all the "good" memories from his past with Tony - hospital etc. - are meaningless for him and he has no trouble ordering his murder considering Tony's "mistakes". He simply said it awkwardly.
Some more of Tony's sins against the Lupertazzi's: 1.)Tony chased Phil down causing him to crash and hurt his neck...then, Tony man-handled him and told him "Where dafuq is my money? You've got 24 hoursssss......" (You think Phil forgot about that??) 2.)The Lupertazzi's *mentioned* the slaying of the White-haired Ukrainian & his daughter in Queens (who coincidentally looked almost just like Phil and his Goomar!) You think they forgot about THAT?? 3.)They can't prove it...but they KNOW the DiMeo's whacked Fat Dom..4.)Not only did Tony massively assault on of their soldiers (i.e.,Coco)......but Tony pointed a snub-nosed .38 at Butch THREE times with his finger ON the Trigger! (Butch didn't forget about THAT!)
1. That was after Phil’s boss told him to pay the money, and he still ran, clearly he hasn’t taken lessons from Junior, we don’t run, it’s embarrassing 2. This scene is before the comare and her father were killed, they were killed *because* of this, Tony planned that hit because Harris told him that Phil was moving on him. Butch used Tony’s preemptive strike to pretend that Tony started it, little did he know, Tony knew what actually happened. He just couldn’t admit it because everyone would see him as a rat, which is why he quickly scoffs and changes the subject. 3. Not only was that after New York killed a Jersey captain, but Dom then went into DiMeo territory to disrespect late Vito and make jokes about him to another captain and the consigliere. Disrespecting a dead made guy, especially a captain is a big no no in terms of mob etiquette, even if you were the one to do it. 4. Coco deserved it, he put his hands on the DiMeo boss’s daughter, another rule being broken, which is ironic coming from Phil’s family, who claims to have respect for the old code
@@KolchaksGhost Yeah I happen to believe if Carmine Sr. was still alive he would have taxed Tony's family for murdering Fat Dom and left it at that. Dom was way, way out of line and Carmine probably would have recognized that
According to actual Cosa Nostra rules, Butch and Phil should have been whacked for sending Coco after Meadow. Going after family members is grounds for a nuclear retaliation. If Phil can quote the rules, he can obey them.
@@Adam-bq2vw Haha I know right, i don't think they got Coco drunk, patted him on the back and said "now go and sexually harass Tony Soprano's daughter."
His speech to Tony at a sitdown after his brother was murdered and they were looking for Tony B. He mentions that he did 20 years in jail and had to make compromises, so now he's not making any more.
This was the moment the show took a dark turn and seeing Chris’ death shortly before this spoke volumes of what was to come! Especially when you really consider a more possible dark turn than what the series had always been. Lol
I can see why Butch ultimately gave Tony the ok to whack Phil, the entire war wasn't even about politics, it was Phil's own ego and he had taken it too far.
" they make anybody and everybody over there, and the way they do it is all wrong. There's no grilled cheese on the radiator, guys don't bring their shineboxes.."
“ Let me tell you a couple of three things “ gets me everytime 😂😂😂😂
Tree*
tree tings
Hahah
“Let me tell you a couple of tree tings” #1 get your shinebox, I want what I gotta get, and get your shine box! OH!”
Me2😂
"Let me tell you a couple of three things.."
1) Shinebox.
2) Grilled cheese off the radiator.
3) 20 years in the can.
Leotardo.. that’s my legacy
This other pigmy thing over in Jersey !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
😂
Let not forget ramming a disc man up a guy's mother's box
you got that all wrong; he jerked off into a radiator, and ate grilled cheese off of a shine box. Or something.
Why would you buy a scrapbook and not have any scraps, waste of money
He can't afford scraps cuz the NJ management was bleeding off too much of the kick.
Its because it was a made scrap book, unlike the wasted money
He treats nickels like man hole covers!
Charles Schwab ova heyeah.
He wanted a scrapbook. He compromised, got a regular book instead
Pay attention to Butch in this scene. He seems open to the idea of going to war at first, but he still needs Phil to sell him on the reasons for it. Phil can't do that. He blows it. Butch even tries to help get the ball rolling by talking business to Angelo about how New Jersey's "redundant upper management" is decreasing their shares of the profits.
Phil cuts him off soon afterwards because that's irrelevant to him. This has nothing to do with business or bottom lines- just Phil's ego. He minimizes the deaths of Coco, Fat Dom Gamiello, and even his own little brother Billy as reasons for going to war while focusing instead on Tony Soprano having not served time in prison like he has. Why's that so important, you ask?
Because it reveals Phil's true motives:
It isn't about business or the correct procedures used during Made Man ceremonies. Just his deep rooted bitterness for anyone who's not also sacrificed 1/3 of their lifetimes to prison like himself.
Furthermore, it demonstrates why Phil could've never won this war anyway. He was leading his men into battle while making the cause all about him. He dragged them into an unpopular war over unquantifiable reasons. Reasons incapable of being resolved at the negotiating table afterwards, as it's supposed to be resolved. Phil believes his 20 year prison sentence gives him free rein to do whatever the hell he wants now that he's boss.
Phil is a horrible Mafia don. He's an ineffective and cowardly leader who believes every mobster in New York owes him their lives now because he didn't rat them out in prison when he very easily could have. No matter how often he reminds everyone else that he "...did his time like a man", he secretly hates himself for it. He regrets having actually done all the things he says affords him the utmost honor and respect in their secret society.
That's where Phil loses Butch, Little Carmine, and eventually his entire family's support for this war. He made it all about himself. His individual ideology; his personal musings on Cosa Nostra. Not about business or anything else that's in the Commission charter for going to war with another family. He ultimately loses this war as a result of making it about his individual vanity, yet fighting it with the lives of others because he believes everyone now owes him their lives anyway as a result of him staying silent for 20 years.
It's a distorted god complex that Phil has been concealing for several years now, but is finally revealed in earnest for the first time in this scene here. To guys like Phil, their own personal misfortunes will always outweigh the values of the men he's leading.
He's really something with that fukin jerk off face ..
I don't think it was mainly about doing time in jail it was more so New York arrogance
I didn’t think Coco died?
@@JB-qr2jq i dont think tony killed him but tony curb stomped his ass for being out of line with meadow while he was drunk and u dont mess with a bosses children or family
"hello my name is Phil "20 years in the can" Leotardo" Nice to meet yas"
Everybody: Jesus did you see a doctor about that?
Phil probably told the hitmen to tell their targets he did 20 years in the can before they kill them.
just part of the job
Tony cipriani
@@dox1802 you mean Salvatore maria latore’s husband? You get it?
Hey professional how you doing
I don’t think he did. He didn’t have the makings of a varsity athlete.
Frank Vincent is the only one who could pull off a script like that with such ease and prestige.
He does not get enough credit on this show. RIP!
Rip
@@davidsuggs3025 how does he not? phil is a fan favorite lol
Not only him. De Niro and Pesci too. That conversation on the desert between them in the "Casino" wasn't in the script. Scorsese just let them talk.
The same about "funny guy" scene in Goodfellas. It was Pesci's idea and only him and Liotta knew about it. Others just watched and tried to figure out what was going on.
@@pasjonatpl Hands down! That desert scene is an all time favorite. Never knew it wasn't scripted.
“5 fucking Families, and you have this Pygmy thing in Jersey “ - Phil , his punchlines on this series were funny
That cracks me up, he says it with such ease and confidence you can tell its been stewing with him for some time. lol
Wonder what the decavilcanties thought of that?
They’re the best part of his character. Besides the fact that Phil is a huge prick, he’s just fucking hilarious honestly.
Best character in the show
@@sonny9493 Phil, Richie and Juniour.
He got through that whole rant without saying “20 years” 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Well he did mention "the can" so half-way there.
@Arrest Fatigue MAH NIGGA! OUR LIVES MATTER! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@mkultra2456 No you don't lol, keep dreaming lil bro
@@stairwaytoheaven8 "NIGGA DISS... NIGGA DAT... NIGGA FIRESIDE CHAT... BARS!"
How do you like my new rap song, son?
But he mentioned his brother Billy, so it's almost the same.
"Take a walk in there. Fuck you waitin' for, get lost!"
Such a great friend.
All the three actors in this scene are dead.
This line proved Phil had no power over his men.
It's sad when they go old like that.
They're his employees
He made them go get their fuckin' shinebox.
Sad fact: all three of these talented actors: Frank Vincent (Phil), John Ciarcia (Albie) and Gregory Antonacci (Butchie) have passed away. R.I.P.
It seems a deadly show.
It is weird and very unsettling
@@Marvin-dg8vj Not necessarily. Sopranos started about 23 years ago and the series finished in early 2007, 15 years ago. The show cast had a lot of middle aged and older actors so its not crazy that a few have died since. RIP to all of them.
damn didn't know it, may they rest rest in peace
Johnny Cakes and Mustang Sally gone too in the last couple of years. Johnny Suicide and Mustang fatal drug overdose in his N.Y.C apartment. And Minn froze to death in her N.Y.C apartment when the landlord turned off the building boilers to fix it. All 3 Departed.
@@MichaelGiordano777 Who is (or was) Minn?
I love how Phil says"
"He's never been in the can... not really."
As if this is a point of being a true gangster.
As Paulie says "In my book, you get points for staying out of the can!"
True, but Phil is always talking about doing his 20 years in the can, as if he was innocent and did the time as a favor to protect other mob members. Tony B was the same, although he never talked about it, he did a stretch to protect Tony S. Some mob guys think jail time is a honor I guess..
And he lead Iran for so many years
He's right. Any criminal organization or gang will give you respect for doing your time without cooperating with law enforcement. I can't think of a way to prove yourself more in that world than that.
*GOOD THING FOR ME THEN YOUR BOOK DON'T MEAN UGATZ TO ME!*
@@mariod1547 unless you made his shoes look like mirrors
He's right about Tony having no respect.
I mean he punched Ralph in the face
@@inlightadorned407
A. she was hooer
B. she hit HIM
@@ongbruhlol He did a lot of coke.
That wasnt his kid she was carryin.
@@HansPeter-hx5dx Fucking miami
“There’s no grilled cheese in my radiator”
No jack in my tizz-you eidder
El queso est podrido,en el sanitario.
There’s no flies on my windshield.
there`s no shah in my iran
“There’s no Klondike bars in my microwave.”
"There's no scraps in my scrap book" other guy looks over to Butch.............................'fuck does that mean....."
😅
Al looks over at Butch, "Did he really softball that one in like that?"
he must've got that from little Carmine
And Butchie looks at both Albie and Phil at the same time.
It means anyone that doesn't agree with me is wearing Cement shoes and gone. Phil was a bottom line guy. And he had a point as much as I detested him. That pygmy thing over in Jersey was a fuking joke. That Jersey crew was totally dysfunctional.
1:48 "There's no scraps in my scrapbook."
*Al and Phil look at each other like "Huh?? What's that mean?"*
It was little touches like that that made this show so great 😂😂😂
or it was something else ;)
Anybody ever die in your arms, you cocksucker?
It's the same look they give each other when Carmine says a pint of blood costs more than a gallon of gold. 😂
"Quick, pretend he's right or sounds like a bad ass or something. We can always fix it later."
yeah, like wtf does that even mean?? 🤣🤣
"Guys don't get their finger pricked, there's no Shinebox on the table."
LOL
Lolololol
when you are looking for reasons to go to war and nothing is sticking, you go to the rules book on being made.
Could you help with translation for non-native? The meaning of these words is truly cryptic to me
@@airbo7 Frank Vincent (Phil Leotardo) was in Goodfellas as a character who had a meme-worthy insult for Joe Pesci: "Go get you fucking shinebox". Because Pesci's character was a short, tough guy gangster and Frank Vicent compared him to a shoe shine boy.
“We decapitate and we do business with whatever’s left” line sends chills!
Foreshadowing what happens to Bobby.
@ecgameplayer Um, no. Foreshadows what happens to Phil. Bobby wasn't decapitated, he was shot dead.
@@darthdavidius5719just a term that Phil used--- meaning to strike at management of the New Jersey crew.
The look Albie gives Butch when Phil says there’s no scraps in my scrapbook is hilarious 😂
Yeah I think Phil was trying to say something badass and original. But he failed miserably and just confused them.
What I took it to mean is that he literally has no moments of with Tony or the Soprano crew that he’d even want to bother remembering
What’s your fucking plan? Eat ketchup pads?
Albie seemed very reasonable, while Butchie stired the pot, guess he was more of a Carmine guy and not a Sac, Leotardo guy like Butchie.
@@paulie2236 we shoulda stopped at Roy Rogers when we had the chance!
Phil: "In my first move as boss, I'm going to make my last move as boss."
1:47
Phil: There's no scraps in my scrapbook
...
Albie: (The fuck does that even-?)
Butch: (I don't know, man; just shut up.)
I think he's saying is that if he has no respect for you he will remove you. You're scraps.
😄🤣😂
@@BenjaminSteber No he means he’s not sentimental and therefore willing to kill Tony who was once his friend
@@BenjaminSteber But what is a scrapbook for?
@@BenjaminSteber everyone gets that but a scrapbooks sole purpose is for collecting scraps so it makes no sense at all
As much as I love Tony and the guys, I can really see where he is coming from. The whole time I watched the show, and loved it, I had the same kinda thoughts as Phil does. The line about "they are nothing more then a glorified crew" really struck. Great writing and show.
Facts
Truth.
Yeah but it was the 2000s not the 80s or 90s different time
Well there's less people in the entire state of New Jersey than in the city of New York alone .. ofc their outfit would be smaller. But they were still lethal and got down $$.
Bologna. The whole “we’re New York, we’re special because…uhh New York” smugness always rubbed me the wrong way. The NJ crew ate, earned and got down like everybody else. Imo, Phil desperately trying to reason with moving in on Tony was emphasized in the dialogue. And fwiw, the NJ did draw blood when opening the next books (remember when Christopher and Eugene were made), making Phil’s justification unmerited and lame.
You can tell Phil wanted to kill off the jersey family for years he finally got his chance
which cost his life....
So you could say that for the most part, he compromised
Tony Soprano never had the makings of a shinebox
He couldn't shine shoes.
Small hands.
Frank’s acting in this series is legendary. Makes a lot of the other actors in the show look amateur
He'll yeah
@@iwillheadlockyournan731 he’s so believable
I like him and the actor that plays Ritchie
No amateur actors in this show. All very talented and delivered.
@@josephpalacio2343 I mean some literally were. I think Bobby's actor was an amateur before he landed the role
No scraps in my scrapbook = I have no sentiments for him no fond memories.
Right, because tony is just a scrap from a pygmy family - doesnt deserve recognition as a true family member.
“They don’t even have the brushes and the polish on the table!”
Either their shoes look like mirrors, or they don’t.
No more shines Nick,I thought they told ya
"There's no scraps in my shine box."
Lmao shouldve said that
shit, you beat me to it lol....
yo i seen you on twitter you’re famous
Dammit I was going to type that but I wanted to see if anyone beat me to it lol
This whole scene is filled with iconic lines.
Phil never started this war. The two Tony’s started this war. Phil was a stand up guy Did 20 years in the fucking canned for the likes of rusty millio
He wanted a woman but he jacked off on a tissue.
And doc Santoro
Just he forgot that Coco seriously insulted Tony's daughter. Such disrespect for family members, especially women, is absolutely unacceptable and against all rules. So Phil, as a man following rules, should make a deal with Tony because perhaps he moved too far but Coco had to be punished somehow. Ralph almost got killed for a joke about Ginny Sack in front of other guys, when she wasn't there. Coco offended Meadow directly and in much worse way.
@@pasjonatpl he also forgot that Fat Dom was one of the men who killed Vito, a made guy, without the say so from Tony.
Dont forget Doc Santoro
“There’s no shine in my shinebox. Make it happen” - Borko
Remind all these uploaders, the upvotes go up to Borko…since time immemorial.
RIP Frank Vincent, John “Cha Cha” Ciarcia, and Greg Antonacci
Wait all these actors are dead?
@@kebabkebob7808 Unfortunately yes: Frank Vincent ("Phil") 1937-2017, Greg Antonacci ("Butch") 1947-2017, John Ciarcia ("Albie") 1940-2015.
A bit of trivia: John Ciarcia also had a small part in Goodfellas as one of Billy Batts crew. He sits next to Billy Batts (Frank Vincent) in the bar in the now (in)famous "Shinebox" scene.
@@persjodin3407 time moves too fast
Yep, The Sopranos is full of dead people.
Lol Mac calls him a bozo then they buy a crappy pear from him
Lemme shine a couple a three shoes
This scene is incredible. Phil's golden lines of dialogue keep on coming, and I love Albie and Butchie's reaction to his hotheadedness. Especially the 'please huh' at 1:11 and their confused and puzzled looks at 1:51 following the scrapbook quote. Also, Phil's idea that going to prison somehow validates you as a true gangster is strange to say the least.
Well, it kinda makes sense when you consider the uhh, ahem, unsavory rumors about Phil...
“Couple of 3 things....”. Just great stuff. This whole series was full of their ignorant shit.
That would be six things.
The sacred and the propane
See ex
D’ere all meat eaters!
Wasn’t said in ignorance, it was just his personal take on that metaphor.
I'd pay to hear the conversation at that table when Phil walked away 🤣
The conversation went we either go with Phil's advice or turn on him and meet with the Soprano crew in New Jersey to finish Phil off. They chose to meet in New Jersey and plan Phil's execution. I was very surprised Carmine Junior was there at that meeting and gave the okay to take Phil out. I would have sided with Frank Vincent quite frankly. The Jersey crew was dysfunctional and problematic. And they did lots of quiet deals without sharing with the New York crew who had many more associates as Phil pointed out. There's no scraps in my scrapbook either. Frank Vincent was the best actor on the Sopranos .Followed by Johnny Sac. Tony Soprano gets honorable mention. imo
@@MichaelGiordano777 Yes! Phil and John (and of course Carmine Sr) were the real deal. With Ercole Di Meo and Jackie Sr gone, the Di Meo Family was done for. Tony was too selfish, and the people around him too incompetent.
"What did he say about a scrapbook?"
"I don't know, but we gotta get rid of this guy."
"This fucking stugatz is gonna get us killed."
@@MichaelGiordano777 As if NY weren't constantly seeding tension and dragging people into their own drama. The Jersey family had no obligation to include NY in all of their deals, not to mention the "dysfunctional and problematic" crew made more money than what Carmine or Johnny brought to the table in every joint partnership they had. Frankly half the time NY came off as jealous and threatened that such a small family could command so much territory, with assets ranging from Philadelphia to Miami all the way to sicily, with so little while Phil's family couldn't even stay united on the most petty of issues. It took Tony B going rogue and even that was partly NY's fault. Phil started an unneccessary war, without a commission okay, without even the whole support of his own family because they knew an urban guerilla war with the Sopranos had zero percentage. Carmine and Johnny sack knew they could never take Jersey. Not without wasting more soldiers and money than it would ever be worth, and would certainly never be able to hold it. Otherwise they would've moved in decades ago. NY needed the Sopranos more than they cared to admit, but Phil was an old fool hopelessly out of step with the current street politics. He could never outsmart Tony even with all his buttons, and his ego inevitably got him killed.
just finished rewatching sopranos for like the 11th time and im still watching clips this has to be the best made show to ever grace our screens
The Wire is superior but Sopranos is top 5 all time.
@@bossshxtonly Wire is superior and had no real weak seasons. You can argue the last season was the weakest with the serial killer plot but eh whatever. Sopranos fell off pretty hard in its later seasons. They had to do a bunch of rewrites for S4 because of 9/11 and you can tell. The quality dipped BIG TIME.
Sopranos numero uno above The Wire and Breaking bad . And trust me I love , the Wire and Breaking bad , epic . And The Sopranos , still , tops em both , bar-none…
@@jimmystrudel yo king of rock , your outta your depth 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@bossshxtonly Sorpanos came first . Filmed first . Then the wire , then breaking bad which came out in 2008 . And Sopranos is #1 , Breaking bad #2, The wire #3 . And I love BB and the wire , love . But they DONT top the Sopranos . Sorry .
He was right Tony gets money kicked up to him and he spends it all in front of his capos and soldiers without hesitation.
Meanwhile, the associates, kick up to them. I've seen Tony stuff an envelope in Sil's coat pocket back when they were discussing telephone calling cards.
And?
Pretty much every line in this scene became immortal.
Butchie's face when Phil says "there's no scraps in my scrapbook" 🤣
I am so glad Frank Vincent lived long enough for this role. He played mostly bit parts his whole life, this is the only major starring role of his that I know of - and he knocked it out of the park, I think everyone agrees that he was perfect for the role.
When he first came in S5 I thought it was just another Goodfellas type cameo for the sake of cameo but Phil became one of my favorite characters and arguably the best character of his career.
"Either it has meaning, or no meaning".
He's right, it just happens to be that the latter is true.
I agree, but when Phil is talking to butch on the phone, Phil says we can never go back. Why not?
"It's all a big nothin'."
- Livia Soprano
Albie and Butchie looking at each other after Phil says "there is no scraps in my scrapsbook" 😂😂😂😂
Man, I can't believe all the actors in this scene are gone now. It is sad to contemplate.
Phil: "Let me tell you a couple of tree tings"
Me: "So you want to tell me six things?"
Let me tell you a couple *_or_* three things.
0:06 Me when my coworkers are being annoying and I'm just trying to watch sopranos clips in peace
When it’s my supervisor * I have enough respect for my coworkers not to talk to them like that
Half the watershed killings in this series would've never happened had Carmine Sr. lived for a few years longer. Everything went to shit once the NY crew was deprived of his captainship.
"In my book you get points for staying out of the can"
Good thing your book don’t mean ugatz to the king of breadsticks!
In my book you get points for staying out of the shine box
@@Seekingtruth-mx3ur he jumped outta da tree and came at me with a shinebox!
@@AndyCigars lol
hehehe
Man the Shah was real worked up today.
The grilled cheese make him emotional.
This life is quite something, all three actors in this scene have moved on, may they rest in peace, they were incredible
"I took his fat fucking hand in friendship" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Phil did 20 years in the can, but he compromised.
Phil will always be a more capable soldier/enforcer than he was ever a Boss - But he always did have the funniest lines!
Masterful by Frank Vincent
Frank Vincent was a perfect Mob Character. With film credits like Raging Bull, Goodfellas, Casino and Sopranos Phil Leotardo, Frank was one of the best. RIP 2017.
Some of his best sayings in one scene... couple three things... there's no scraps in my scrapbook... that pygmy thing in Jersey. Phil & Johnny Sac, two of the best characters.
I love how Phil’s consigliere takes a bite out of his biscuit and Phil knows something wrong #bromance
Well spotted.
I thought Al was just hungry.
@@nihilistcentraluk442 it's AL he is always hungry
Frank Vincent can portray arrogance and narcissism so well.
I love how these guys bring up family and all these other examples of BS disrespect to make their point. Phil is talking about murdering a man and brings up how Tony jumped Junior to become boss and says, "his father's brother" just for added emphasis
Phil was wrong: the only guys we saw made in Jersey was Chris and Gene in season 3. They got their fingers pricked and there was a gun and sword on the table.
Phil was just coming up with excuses to solidify his desire to wipe the Soprano crew out since he got out the can.
He was in the can?
@@FlopFlap1 yes..but the writers never made it clear how many years.wasted opportunity
@@FlopFlap1 its heavily implied
@@opusepynomus9995 I've heard the community speculates and theorizes that Phil would have been in for around two decades. Don't quote me on this though. It's been a while since I've researched this and I'm a little foggy on the details.
There were probably always rumours flying out the 5 families about how NJ weren't nearly as "real" as they were, whether there was any basis to the rumours or not. It was just ome of the ways NY looked down on NJ. I always took it like he was commenting on these rumours, presuming they were fact.
Richie Aprile: "I did ten fucking years."
Phil Leotardo: "You've never been in the can...not really."
This show really portrayed members of the mafia as total hypocrites but Phil’s hypocrisy is on a whole different level
"He's a guy who stepped over his own uncle to grab the big shinebox."
"Take out an entire fucking shinebox?!"
"There's no shine in my shinebox. Make it happen."
I read somewhere that the line
"No Gun & Sword on the Table"
Was written in this scene because
Members of the Mafia told either David Chase himself or James Gandolfini (I can't recall who) That the making scene in the third season wasn't accurate to Real Life.
One of the mistakes they mentioned was the lack of a Gun and Sword on the table.
Lol David chase would be one to make a mistake into a plot point
Borko has no respect for this thing. His TH-cam account has never been suspended - not really.
I love Butch's subtle smirking facial expressions throughout this clip
The actor that plays Phil is fantastic. He understands these characters. Not sure if it’s art imitating life or what, but he’s good in everything - Soprano’s, Goodfellas, Casino, etc.
"No Al. Either it has meaning or no meaning" One of the realest lines
This is the most defining conversation in the entire series.
Easily my favorite scene. Theres a lot of fun details. He claims guys dont get their fingers pricked when Chris and Eugene definitely did. He claims Tony cheated his way to the title even though they 3 did the exact same very recently (please, huh). And I love how its Butch and Phil trying to convince Alphie. So many great lines but "I agree in spirit but I gotta counsel" might be the best of the whole show. It gives such a fun insight into the character. Also notice that despite Phil's opening, he still has the only justified reaction (take out an entire fucking family??) They all define their place so well and of course phil's way of talking is priceless.
@@geordiejones5618 word.
That bite of the cookie Al took should have won an Emmy!
the only making in Sopranos history was season 3 with Chris and guess what.....his finger was pricked and there was a sword and gun....sorry phil
Phil really hated the Anthony and the New Jersey Crew
Bert and Jerry got made towards the end
@@johnj6466 yes u are correct I think that was NY tho right?
@@harshtruth9148 Bert was Jersey crew but since their dinner was together and Phil was there, it may have been in NY. Phil was looking for a reason to kill Tony haha
@@johnj6466 great show man. God bless brother
1) Butch tries to push Phil into killing Tony. Phil says "kill a boss? I won't do that".
2) Phil orders a hit on Tony Soprano and his entire family.
3) When the going gets tough, Butch sells out Phil in a private meeting with Tony. Phil gets murdered. Butch takes over Phil's job.
Just business.....
That's the thing about the LCN. These people aren't your true friends. And on top of that, their "thing" is even more important than their own personal families.
I love the look they give each other when Phil says "There's no scraps in my scrapbook". They're like "His scrapbook? What the fuck?"
"There's no scraps in my scrapbook" lmao..kills me everytime lmao
Phil was my fav character, he was true to the fact: He really did 20 years in the can.
This is a goldmine for quotes. Phil was the best character for the screen time he was given
I always thought that the scrapbook thing was pretty cool. Phil basically says that all the "good" memories from his past with Tony - hospital etc. - are meaningless for him and he has no trouble ordering his murder considering Tony's "mistakes". He simply said it awkwardly.
Thank you for the aclaratory. Now i think i understand that quote... because i think butchie and the other guy didnt understand it
Some more of Tony's sins against the Lupertazzi's: 1.)Tony chased Phil down causing him to crash and hurt his neck...then, Tony man-handled him and told him "Where dafuq is my money? You've got 24 hoursssss......" (You think Phil forgot about that??) 2.)The Lupertazzi's *mentioned* the slaying of the White-haired Ukrainian & his daughter in Queens (who coincidentally looked almost just like Phil and his Goomar!) You think they forgot about THAT?? 3.)They can't prove it...but they KNOW the DiMeo's whacked Fat Dom..4.)Not only did Tony massively assault on of their soldiers (i.e.,Coco)......but Tony pointed a snub-nosed .38 at Butch THREE times with his finger ON the Trigger! (Butch didn't forget about THAT!)
1. That was after Phil’s boss told him to pay the money, and he still ran, clearly he hasn’t taken lessons from Junior, we don’t run, it’s embarrassing
2. This scene is before the comare and her father were killed, they were killed *because* of this, Tony planned that hit because Harris told him that Phil was moving on him. Butch used Tony’s preemptive strike to pretend that Tony started it, little did he know, Tony knew what actually happened. He just couldn’t admit it because everyone would see him as a rat, which is why he quickly scoffs and changes the subject.
3. Not only was that after New York killed a Jersey captain, but Dom then went into DiMeo territory to disrespect late Vito and make jokes about him to another captain and the consigliere. Disrespecting a dead made guy, especially a captain is a big no no in terms of mob etiquette, even if you were the one to do it.
4. Coco deserved it, he put his hands on the DiMeo boss’s daughter, another rule being broken, which is ironic coming from Phil’s family, who claims to have respect for the old code
@@KolchaksGhost Yeah I happen to believe if Carmine Sr. was still alive he would have taxed Tony's family for murdering Fat Dom and left it at that. Dom was way, way out of line and Carmine probably would have recognized that
According to actual Cosa Nostra rules, Butch and Phil should have been whacked for sending Coco after Meadow. Going after family members is grounds for a nuclear retaliation. If Phil can quote the rules, he can obey them.
Jason Carswell What makes you think they SENT him?
@@Adam-bq2vw Haha I know right, i don't think they got Coco drunk, patted him on the back and said "now go and sexually harass Tony Soprano's daughter."
Самый лучший сериал, пересмотрен миллион раз. И каждый раз те же эмоции, что и впервые.
polack
@@followengland_ballsonig2938 russian*
@@googootz8214 keep thinkin you know everything!
I love that line “goes out to Jersey and never comes back.” Like he’s MIA in Vietnam or something lmao.
“Let me tell ya a couple of tree things”
“Go home and get your f*cking shinebox”
“I compromised”
“I loved him like a brother in law”
Phil conveniently forgets how he killed the best buddy and mentor of "that animal Blundetto"...
Anyone notice a glimpse of one of the guys in the back wearing a members only jacket in the back?
nice catch
Gene?!
he is one of Silvio Dante killers, he used the same jacket on that hit
Huh, I guess ive never realized Phil did a bid in prison until now. I must not have been paying attention 😆
His speech to Tony at a sitdown after his brother was murdered and they were looking for Tony B. He mentions that he did 20 years in jail and had to make compromises, so now he's not making any more.
" A couple of three things".......oook does that mean 6 things or 33 things?
Did you really think I misunderstood?
Lol Albie only finally agrees when Phil mentions Vito. 😂
This was the moment the show took a dark turn and seeing Chris’ death shortly before this spoke volumes of what was to come! Especially when you really consider a more possible dark turn than what the series had always been. Lol
Let me tell you a couple of three things
"There's no scraps in my scrapbook" lol
It’s so nice that Phil has hobby like scrapbooking. It reveals this whole other sentimental side to his character.
All of this could have been avoided if it wasnt for the wine. It makes Phil emotional.
I can see why Butch ultimately gave Tony the ok to whack Phil, the entire war wasn't even about politics, it was Phil's own ego and he had taken it too far.
Phil is a genious for mentioning that Tony has never been in the can
Let me shine a couple of three shoes.
HEY PHIL MAYBE U HAVENT HEARD, UVE BEEN AWAY A LONG TIME, I DONT SHINE SHOWS ANYMORE FOR AT LEAST THE LAST TWINNYFARKENYEEEEEARS!!!!!
Carmine said "spit shine tommy is nothing more then a glorified spit shiner, we take his shinebox and absorb the whole fucken thing"
" they make anybody and everybody over there, and the way they do it is all wrong. There's no grilled cheese on the radiator, guys don't bring their shineboxes.."
RIP to these great actors.
Let me tell ya a couple a 3 things … one of the greatest lines of all time !
"There's no shines in my shinebox."
I've always tried to stir my coffee like Phil
The two stirs, the 4 little taps
classy af
“let me tell u a couple of three things” hahahaa gotta love my Italian brothers