I've just bought another 5D Mark 1 for £140 in superb condition - so many people love them. I've also got a 6D Mk 1, they say they have similar characteristics in image quality to the 5D. The sensor on the 6d Mk1 is supposed to be the best Canon sensor ever, better than the 6D Mk2. you can pick up used 6D's Mk 1's for a reasonable price. They may not have all the bells and whistles like on a modern cameras, but a no brainer if you want to take just photos and don't need to rush focusing. Thanks for posting.
Great video, I got the 5D Classic a couple of months ago. I loved it from the start, so when I saw a Mark II for even less I bought that too. Theres is not a big difference I think. The colours are a bit different, but I don't really notice the difference in photo size. I love these old cameras, have a Nikon D700 as well, and an Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark I coming.
In my tests 5D Classic was about 700K warmer than all the Canon's I compared with (which is many, from 1300D to 1DX). I mean, if you put the same Kelvin numbers, then Classic is warmer (overall, not exactly in yellows or skintone, it's more complicated than that, but still) and if you even the colours by eye, then the difference is around 700K with what you compare. Some say 1Ds Mark II has the same colour rendition. but I did not have a chance to check yet.
I bought the 100D with the kit STM lens to use as a «point and shoot» when my son was born 10 years ago. I quit my semipro sidebusiness when he was born. I still see noe reason to upgrade. My pro camera bodys, including the 5D Classic, 5D MKII and 1Ds MKII rearly gets any use anymore. I have even shot weddings for people I know using only the 100D, 18-50 STM and the 55-250 STM. The 55-250 gets me those really bokehlicious shots that wows people. Both lenses are tack sharp, has great contrast and colors. Togeather with the 100D, there is very little postproduction nessecary, if the photographer does his job well.
Nice! I was looking for a similar comparison and I like that you did it, however it didn't make things clear. Details that you talk about are (almost) indistinguishable at 1080p as you don't zoom enough. I think the only additional step you took with mk 4 was contrast, which i believe can be set automatically based on camera model by lightroom just after import. Other thing that stood out was white balance, which can be adjusted in camera to your preference (wb shift) and will affect auto white balance. Lightness/darkness of the image might not be a sensor problem at all (maybe actual shutter speed doesn't exactly match the numbers, etc.) and wasn't even caused by difference in metering or can be easily compensated for in camera. Other than that i didn't see any special colors or a 'filmic look' I've been after. Correct me if I'm wrong. Would be great to have a link with raw files to see the difference for myself, maybe try a different raw processor. By the way, from my experience, using the same profile in lightroom doesn't give you the same image when using different cameras. This might be a lightroom problem. In capture one i have a dedicated profile for every camera model. If i understand correctly it might be a better way of making different cameras look the same than having one-for-all profile, since all camera models differ slightly. Thanks for your video and have a great day!
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Cropped sensors and kit lenses from Canon are pretty fine... for landscapes and good light. The problems come when you deal with shallow DoF and low light. That's where you can't beat bigger sensor and faster glass. There's nothing native wider than f/2.8 for Canon's cropped DSLRs (which is equal to FF f/4.5). There are some third party lenses and fast EF-Ms, though. Hopefully, new RF-S glass gets faster. If they produce a number of RF f/1.2 primes (35mm, 24mm to come), then we could expect RF-S to receive at least f/2 or f/1.8. Would be nice.
I have the original MK1 classic and a mk 3 both beautiful cameras but I prefer the colours of the classic and enjoy using it.by the way love Ur channel
Thx Richard, great information regarding the classic and MK4. Seems quite alot of work on the MK4 to make it look like a classic. Think I'll keep my classic and 6D mk1 and plug away on those. Maybe one day a MK4 will be on the cards but not at the present pricing. Keep up the great work m8. Cheers Chris.
That's a lovely photogragh! I'm new to all this post editing and have only used jpegs for my photos and was wondering what processing program you're using? Also when you say that the images are so good from the 5d just out of the camera do you mean the JPEG or the raw? Many thanks
I'm loving my 5D! Not sure why but I really expected the monochrome output to be garbage even though I knew what it was capable of with colour.. But apparently Canon knew what they were doing with the mono output too 😅
Canon 40D has very very similar colours and tonality to 5DC , it’s like a cropped version . Same era and same colour profiles . Question, why didn’t you use the WB dropper and click same white areas on those cottages which should make the wb very similar on both 5D and mark 4 images? Let’s not forget newer gen cameras have way better dynamic range so they usually look flatter out of camera (RAW files)
40d and 5d match well, i have used the mk4 for a wedding season delivered about 16000 images to customers and still prefer the 5d classic, i am going back to 2 5dc bodies
You are using different versions of the lens and expect same result? And also you are using the Adobe Profile which is junk. I've moved away from LIghtroom and back to Canon's DPP4 a few years ago. DPP4 has way superior color, sharpness and noise reduction.
The 5D IV seems to have a green tint to it, a bit like Sony cameras. Whether that's more to do with the camera or Adobe's handling of the files, I'm not sure, but I don't like it.
It’s strange, as another guy compared a 5D mki and a 5D mkii, and the mkii is considerably sharper. Have you ever had the chance to compare a mkii to a classic?
the mk 2 has really nice sharp images (colours are good but different), the mk1 has its own colours that are unique. using the two cameras together at weddings was i nightmare. we sold the mk2 and kept the mk1's. it would be good to try one again
@@RichardBarleyphoto yeah I can imagine using them together at a wedding would be an issue due to the big difference in colour rendition. I think they’re both great cameras to own, as they both have completely unique colour science that new cameras today just can’t compare with in my opinion. I love the rich earthy tones of the 5D mkii, a comparison photo was released the other day comparing the 5D mkii and EOS RP in a scenic shot, and people voted the 5D mkii as their favourite in the poll. Quite interesting. I do think the 5D mkii is the more versatile camera when compared to the classic, but the classic is definitely worth owning for its own attributes.
In the film photography there was no all this Photoshop and Lightroom BS, and photography was good, and people were buying. I hate that post processing what makes photography boring, and fake. I don't want to put up with all this crap, and learn Photoshop or Lightroom.
Then grab yourself a 5D, 6D, D700, D610, or something else renowned for good colours, and embrace the jpegs. Learn to adjust the settings to get the tint, white balance, contrast, sharpness, and all that the way you want.
You are not even looking at the color output of your cameras. You are looking at Adobe Color interpretation of different RAW files. Is the 5D really that sharp? Wait. You've pushed the sharpness slider up to 70? OMG! 70! 😅 Well, of course it's "sharp" at 70.
I started with Sony SLT55 , Fantastic Sensor , but everything else is bad , every image i take was ugly as a mofo , truly ugly , but of course you can edit it , spend half an hour on it get it to look good , but then it looks artistic , not natural , and then i went for Canon , got things getting out of the camera as i like them , and then i went Full Frame 5D , and instantly .. this is it , this is what i want . But i took some time to get there , a lot of learning and experimenting changing cameras and glass , always thinking its glass , i need a better lens ... costly learning process . Now i use 50$ lens , Yongnuo 50 mm , simple as fak , and it works for me .
@@reflectit5547 yeah , itts good for the money , but one needs 28m as well or something around because im always struggling to put things in frame . They say nifty fifty , isay nifty 28. But far as i know there is no such lens as cheap as Yongnuo , with that focal range and that bright aperture . If you know of some let me know .
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Canon 5D classic is like that partner you broke up with but wished you had her back missing her qualities that newer partners lacked.
gone back to the old one 😀
Just take em both 😅🎉
I've just bought another 5D Mark 1 for £140 in superb condition - so many people love them. I've also got a 6D Mk 1, they say they have similar characteristics in image quality to the 5D. The sensor on the 6d Mk1 is supposed to be the best Canon sensor ever, better than the 6D Mk2. you can pick up used 6D's Mk 1's for a reasonable price. They may not have all the bells and whistles like on a modern cameras, but a no brainer if you want to take just photos and don't need to rush focusing. Thanks for posting.
thanks for your comment
Great video, I got the 5D Classic a couple of months ago. I loved it from the start, so when I saw a Mark II for even less I bought that too. Theres is not a big difference I think. The colours are a bit different, but I don't really notice the difference in photo size.
I love these old cameras, have a Nikon D700 as well, and an Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark I coming.
thanks for your comment, I would like to try the 5D mk2 with 2022 Lightroom to see what the colours look like, i had one but sold it
I wouldn't be surprised if you end up using the Olympus the most - I love mine
In my tests 5D Classic was about 700K warmer than all the Canon's I compared with (which is many, from 1300D to 1DX). I mean, if you put the same Kelvin numbers, then Classic is warmer (overall, not exactly in yellows or skintone, it's more complicated than that, but still) and if you even the colours by eye, then the difference is around 700K with what you compare. Some say 1Ds Mark II has the same colour rendition. but I did not have a chance to check yet.
Thanks for your constructive comment , another wedding this week see how the mk4 looks
Wow! The file off the 100d is fantastic!!
The 100D and the 18-55 STM have both shocked me to
I bought the 100D with the kit STM lens to use as a «point and shoot» when my son was born 10 years ago. I quit my semipro sidebusiness when he was born.
I still see noe reason to upgrade. My pro camera bodys, including the 5D Classic, 5D MKII and 1Ds MKII rearly gets any use anymore.
I have even shot weddings for people I know using only the 100D, 18-50 STM and the 55-250 STM. The 55-250 gets me those really bokehlicious shots that wows people.
Both lenses are tack sharp, has great contrast and colors. Togeather with the 100D, there is very little postproduction nessecary, if the photographer does his job well.
I absolutely love my canon 5D mark IV 30.4 megapixels is hard to beat especially when cropping I thought your file on the 5D mark IV looked the best
I am slowly getting use to it, thanks for your comment
@@RichardBarleyphoto work with the 5D mark IV camera not against it and it will serve you well :)
Nice! I was looking for a similar comparison and I like that you did it, however it didn't make things clear.
Details that you talk about are (almost) indistinguishable at 1080p as you don't zoom enough. I think the only additional step you took with mk 4 was contrast, which i believe can be set automatically based on camera model by lightroom just after import. Other thing that stood out was white balance, which can be adjusted in camera to your preference (wb shift) and will affect auto white balance. Lightness/darkness of the image might not be a sensor problem at all (maybe actual shutter speed doesn't exactly match the numbers, etc.) and wasn't even caused by difference in metering or can be easily compensated for in camera. Other than that i didn't see any special colors or a 'filmic look' I've been after. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Would be great to have a link with raw files to see the difference for myself, maybe try a different raw processor.
By the way, from my experience, using the same profile in lightroom doesn't give you the same image when using different cameras. This might be a lightroom problem. In capture one i have a dedicated profile for every camera model. If i understand correctly it might be a better way of making different cameras look the same than having one-for-all profile, since all camera models differ slightly.
Thanks for your video and have a great day!
If you would like to discuss it further you can book a video call here
Richard Barley Photography Tutorials & Reviews
• 1 second ago
If you go to this page you book a one hour video call to answer all your questions regards rich www.richardbarleyphotography.com/one-to-one-photography-lessons-worcestershire.html
Cropped sensors and kit lenses from Canon are pretty fine... for landscapes and good light. The problems come when you deal with shallow DoF and low light. That's where you can't beat bigger sensor and faster glass. There's nothing native wider than f/2.8 for Canon's cropped DSLRs (which is equal to FF f/4.5). There are some third party lenses and fast EF-Ms, though. Hopefully, new RF-S glass gets faster. If they produce a number of RF f/1.2 primes (35mm, 24mm to come), then we could expect RF-S to receive at least f/2 or f/1.8. Would be nice.
5D classic is the keeper!
The image has a 3D quality thanks for your comment
I have the original MK1 classic and a mk 3 both beautiful cameras but I prefer the colours of the classic and enjoy using it.by the way love Ur channel
thanks, i am not enjoying the image from the mk4, its takes a lot longer to edit
Thx Richard, great information regarding the classic and MK4.
Seems quite alot of work on the MK4 to make it look like a classic.
Think I'll keep my classic and 6D mk1 and plug away on those.
Maybe one day a MK4 will be on the cards but not at the present pricing.
Keep up the great work m8.
Cheers Chris.
thanks for your comment, I am producing a preset to make the 5D4 look like the classic
That's a lovely photogragh! I'm new to all this post editing and have only used jpegs for my photos and was wondering what processing program you're using? Also when you say that the images are so good from the 5d just out of the camera do you mean the JPEG or the raw? Many thanks
I'm loving my 5D! Not sure why but I really expected the monochrome output to be garbage even though I knew what it was capable of with colour.. But apparently Canon knew what they were doing with the mono output too 😅
The canon cameras pre video are exceptional at photography. Try the 1ds mk3. Said to be Canons best still camera ever. I have to agree.
i was looking at a 1ds mk2
Canon 40D has very very similar colours and tonality to 5DC , it’s like a cropped version . Same era and same colour profiles . Question, why didn’t you use the WB dropper and click same white areas on those cottages which should make the wb very similar on both 5D and mark 4 images?
Let’s not forget newer gen cameras have way better dynamic range so they usually look flatter out of camera (RAW files)
40d and 5d match well, i have used the mk4 for a wedding season delivered about 16000 images to customers and still prefer the 5d classic, i am going back to 2 5dc bodies
You are using different versions of the lens and expect same result? And also you are using the Adobe Profile which is junk. I've moved away from LIghtroom and back to Canon's DPP4 a few years ago. DPP4 has way superior color, sharpness and noise reduction.
The 5D IV seems to have a green tint to it, a bit like Sony cameras.
Whether that's more to do with the camera or Adobe's handling of the files, I'm not sure, but I don't like it.
i have finally got the 5d4 file to look ok in lightroom, it has only taken me 16000 shots and a lot of time, i still prefer the mk1
It’s strange, as another guy compared a 5D mki and a 5D mkii, and the mkii is considerably sharper. Have you ever had the chance to compare a mkii to a classic?
the mk 2 has really nice sharp images (colours are good but different), the mk1 has its own colours that are unique. using the two cameras together at weddings was i nightmare. we sold the mk2 and kept the mk1's. it would be good to try one again
@@RichardBarleyphoto yeah I can imagine using them together at a wedding would be an issue due to the big difference in colour rendition. I think they’re both great cameras to own, as they both have completely unique colour science that new cameras today just can’t compare with in my opinion. I love the rich earthy tones of the 5D mkii, a comparison photo was released the other day comparing the 5D mkii and EOS RP in a scenic shot, and people voted the 5D mkii as their favourite in the poll. Quite interesting. I do think the 5D mkii is the more versatile camera when compared to the classic, but the classic is definitely worth owning for its own attributes.
In the film photography there was no all this Photoshop and Lightroom BS, and photography was good, and people were buying. I hate that post processing what makes photography boring, and fake. I don't want to put up with all this crap, and learn Photoshop or Lightroom.
just go back to film, i dont blame you, i agree
Then grab yourself a 5D, 6D, D700, D610, or something else renowned for good colours, and embrace the jpegs. Learn to adjust the settings to get the tint, white balance, contrast, sharpness, and all that the way you want.
You are not even looking at the color output of your cameras. You are looking at Adobe Color interpretation of different RAW files. Is the 5D really that sharp? Wait. You've pushed the sharpness slider up to 70? OMG! 70! 😅 Well, of course it's "sharp" at 70.
I started with Sony SLT55 , Fantastic Sensor , but everything else is bad , every image i take was ugly as a mofo , truly ugly , but of course you can edit it , spend half an hour on it get it to look good , but then it looks artistic , not natural , and then i went for Canon , got things getting out of the camera as i like them , and then i went Full Frame 5D , and instantly .. this is it , this is what i want .
But i took some time to get there , a lot of learning and experimenting changing cameras and glass , always thinking its glass , i need a better lens ... costly learning process .
Now i use 50$ lens , Yongnuo 50 mm , simple as fak , and it works for me .
which one is it? yongnuo 50mm f1.8 II?
@@reflectit5547 yeah , itts good for the money , but one needs 28m as well or something around because im always struggling to put things in frame . They say nifty fifty , isay nifty 28. But far as i know there is no such lens as cheap as Yongnuo , with that focal range and that bright aperture .
If you know of some let me know .