£300 vs £5000 Camera Setup! (Canon 5D Mk I vs Mk IV)
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Hi there I currently own the canon 2000d and I am thinking of swapping it for a Canon 5d mk1 am I crazy ? Or is it a good move.
Hello what do you recommend I am a beginner and I want to buy one of them which is best for photographing people and events
2:51 "I thought" Such a tinge of sadness to that answer.
Came for the camera review, left with existential questions...
did he find "thinking" or he thought he found something be it kinda went to hell or is hes brain just fucked up?
Glad this was kept in, hidden gem. Interesting character, whatever the reason it was a powerful statement.
I come to camera reviews to escape existential crisis 😅
i felt moved
Came right down to the comments after that scene...glad others felt the same
02:58 That has got to be one of the most powerful answers to any question I think I've heard all year! My thanks to you both (Camera man/lady included) for being able to capture it
I were hoping that would turn into a full Streets of London interview. :)
I just paused the video to cry a little and comment about it. Glad you got that too.
Wow powerful words. To have this captured makes me feel photography/videography is so important. Not expecting this.
Powerful indeed
Max Sherwin it gave me the chills
2:58 gave me goosebumps, that whole interaction was oscar worthy
I dont get it. Can you explain it for me ? (english is not my language) . Is not thinking and thought is the same?
@@sofiathemachine you are right. It is one of those statements that can be interpreted differently, but that is the most clear intepretation
@@sofiathemachine nope, you're right. You said that perfectly.
@@sofiathemachine sounds like he may have a great writer
it stopped me in my tracks
I love my 5d classic. It’s the camera that I take everywhere. Rugged, great images, and simple.
"I thought". That's some deep shizznit.
Could you explain what he meant to non-native speakers? I hear he is saying "my mom said to me to find something to do to stop me from thinking, and I thought" What's it about?
When he said "I thought", he meant "I thought [about things to pass the time]"
Naher1mne1utub ever saw a dog trying to think and get confused..
@@Naher1mne1utub find something to do (keeping you happy), to stop you from thinking (about sadness or worrying about life). He ended up thinking, thus he is not very happy at the moment (and being homeless and worrying).
@@RaymondLo84 thx i now got it
I just bought the Canon 5d off eBay for $270. So far I've done two shoots with them. One Wedding (which I hate doing, and was a huge risk and wouldn't recommend) and one photoshoot for models. After using it, I sold my other camera. The 5d is a photographers camera. It doesn't do anything except photos. It doesn't have insane autofocus that can track subjects sprinting across the frame. But what it does, it takes pictures, and it does it as well as or better than any of the current Sony, Canon, Nikon's out there. I would never recommend the 5d as a first camera. You'll get frustrated from missing shots, and having to work hard to create decent low light shots and a bunch of other things. But if you've been using an APS-C and want to upgrade. And you know your way around a camera, you know how to shoot in Manual. Then this is one of the best camera's you'll ever own. It's as good as anything minus the bells and whistles.
If you are a headshot photographer. The 5d is the best option. I cannot recommend it enough.
Sir, this is the best comment in this thread...)))
I completely agree...)))
Proves that many of us are wasting our money chasing the newest gear. Many of us should stick with our gear much longer than we do. The Canon 5D and Nikon D700 demonstrate that digital cameras can last a long time.
Donald Groves my d700 takes better photos than my d800. Not as much dynamic range and resolution, but the photos have a film like quality that the newer d800 can’t replicate.
dean bradley, I bought a Canon 5D4 not long after it was released and I do love the camera, but there are situations in which I think my 6 year old 6D renders better. As you say, the DR and resolution are not as good, but I think informal portraits in low light situations look somewhat better.
I've been using a broken 12-year old Rebel XTi/400D for all my photos (which can be found online for under $100 with lens, I only use it because I can't quite afford an upgrade quite yet) and although it takes a lot more effort, you can still get shots just as good as the newest camera on the market.
Kristian. The XTi was my first DSLR. I gave it to my niece a few years ago and it still works. I took many good photos in decent light. Its weakness is low light, which was typical of cameras back then. It is a very good little camera.
I had the same problem with my Rebel t5. Decent stills and colors, but the shutter mechanism didn't distribute the weight well during shutter firing, meaning that there would always be some motion blur in lowlight images, no matter how steady the shooter's hand.
I bought a 2nd hand 5D a couple of years ago and the image attributes were just so special, even though the image quality, technically speaking, was similar to my 60D. Unfortunately I began to notice some slight faults in the sensor that was likely caused by dust. Those faults could not be rectified without a sensor replacement that was going to cost around AUD800 so the camera is sitting in a cupboard waiting for the day that a sensor refit will be cost effective. For me, the big issue with buying a 5D is the lack of a sensor cleaning mechanism that the future 5D models had. I'd recommend that anyone buying one should consider making it a one lens setup or making lens changes in only the cleanest of environments.
You can actually clean the sensor by the menu options but I don't think it would do you much good
I am sorry about your camera situation but thank you so much for sharing because as a new amateur photographer, this is something I have not thought about . Hope you get to use your camera soon.
I had a 1Ds mark 2 and that had the same problem, no cleaning mechanism. I stopped changing lenses because of the dirt. I used to go on commercial shoots and have to duck into a corner to change lenses and reduce the amount of dust going into the camera. I sold it for that reason. I created great photos.
sensor cleaning tech is a lie, it does nothing. you have to put solution on sensor and clean every year. thats smple
Even after processing to match both files, the 5D classic retains that filmic look. Amazing camera
It is true. I have a 5D I and a 5DII , the grain of the 5D I is Awesome! Looks like Film.
Well done Pablo...Thanks for reminding us to quit obsessing over gear and just have fun and go out and get the shot...And to “stop thinking” and be happy! Cheers from Florida!
At 2:41 to 3:00 your conversation with that homeless man... That was ridiculously moving and I can’t get it out of my head.This is one of those things about taking portraits of strangers that has always left me entranced; the conversations you can have are limitless. I had a similar conversation with a a homeless man I met in San Francisco. I’ll never forget it.
Thomas Drieslein hi, in that case you might enjoy my ‘Streets of London’ series!
I’ll give it a look!
Wish I could exchange with the guy, god bless him
My uncle gave me his 5D Classic, and it’s my first full frame! The fact that it’s almost as old as I am is so cool to me (I’m from 2003). I absolutely love the pictures I take with it, and definitely gonna be using for a long time🤍
Great video Pablo. I sold all my DSLR gear and bought X100F and than Ricoh GR II - I never thought that it will be so much liberating. I can't use heavy DSLR for street photography anymore. But I absolutely agree, there is some magic in old 5D, really lovely camera.
After I saw this...I went out and bought one for fun...I was highly impressed.
This impress me tooo.. I cant waitttttt
"Find yourself something to do that will stop you from thinking and you'll be quiet happy."
Words of wisdom! :)
" And I thought."
And what about that life advice from the bearded bloke!
Ha Ha Ha
I suspect that after having been given the advice 'not to think'..that only made the poor chap think even deeper.
What a legend.
Same chap as featured in “Streets of London : episode 19” this episode is from feb 2019, episode 19 - Aug 2018 .... quite odd he has popped up again
@@spikeminestrone1420 thought I'd seen his ugly mug somewhere 😅😋
Great video Pablo, I totally agree with you about getting a 5D as a starter camera, I think learning on full frame is great if you have the opportunity to!
Thank you so much for this video! I am a amateur photographer that started off using a Canon 70D. Love that camera, but have been curious about moving into a full frame to see what that would hold for me. I now feel way more comfortable buying a 5 mark 1 over spending thousands of dollars getting a newer camera.
Great video. I loved my 5D, and my even older EOS 5 for that matter. It was the perfect blend of ease of use and pro quality, especially the combination of the 'consumer' mode dial and the 'pro' aperture/shutter speed controls under finger and thumb.
I think you've nailed it better than most in explaining just why gear doesn't matter. I use a 7D and Lumix GX80 and recently revisited some photos from my old Canon 350D (2004 I think?). I gave the photos a 2018 edit in lightroom and you could not tell the difference between those and my recent work. I might pick up a 5D Mark 1, but you probably run the price up on MPB now 😁
thank you for actually telling us what settings you were using...so many photographers make videos about comparisons but don't let us know what they shot in to give the rest of us an idea of the individual settings. great video btw...!
Well, in low light, you would have seen quite a big difference. I still love my 5D mk1 though...
i have to say i really could not tell the difference .
Raymond Kilminster try veiwing on a computer the raw files, its like looking at an image before and after getting a pair of glasses, there's litteraly no comparrison. Never judge image quality from a youtube video
That is exactly right. Comparing jpeg's from my original Canon Rebel XT to files from my 5D mark IV, look nearly identical (when the Rebel was able to cast a sharp enough image) but what I CAN do on the RAW's from the IV is pull multiple stops of details from the shadows as well as the highlights from high contrast images without the need to start bracketing my shots. Something that the Rebel XT just isn't capable of. Oh yes. the Rebel XT is also an 8 megapixal camera and the Mark IV is 30.
Try to use it at night. Ez for MK IV...
Thanks mate - you just confirmed what I have thought I knew all-along but didn't have the newer 5D cameras to shoot as a comparison! I purchased my 5D Mk1 back in 2008 and have recently branched into macrophotography (crystals and mineral specimens) as well as very recently started sticking my toe into studio protrait work and at my level of competency my 5D Mk 1 will certainly do me! Cheers and thanks from Down Under.
One of the most genuine vlog I watched. I got goosebumps. Just lovely. Wish I own the canon 5M1
There's something romantic about the old 5D and I completely agree with your end arguments - spot on!
The skin tones with the Mk1 seemed more natural . The MkIV appeared to have a reddish/orange cast ( to my 67 Y.O. eyes anyway lol ).
I have noticed over the past 6 months here in Australia, that the price of the 5D Mk1 (classic) has risen quite dramatically, maybe from about $500(aud) to $700(aud). I think the 5D classic is becoming a bit of a cult camera. I do so want one though.
dude same, i've been checking gumtree every other day and can't find one for cheap anymore
search the 5d classic group of facebook :)
the nikon d700 is less than 300$ (usd) mint, and you'd rather get the garbage 5dm1? bunch of fanboys. the d700 has more dr than even the 5d mark 3 lololol..
That's why it's called a "classic" :)
you can almost get a sony a7 mki or 5d mkii for $1000 here in australia, so $700 for a mki is a bit much
Very useful little video thanks. Just bought a nice 5D mark 1 on the strength of it. Very pleased indeed.
Loved My 5D Classic until it does on me at a wedding, luckily I had a dual set up with a Mk II which saved the day. I still miss my MK I. You are right the images did have a special warm quality to them. Great videos and would love to see more!
fantastic comparisons, great vid
I must say the way you described the affection for the 5D was a plus to keep it . Thank you for the review
Hey Pablo, a few months ago i bought a 5D with a newer 50mm STM. Its fantastic, especially with my student-budget im able to do professionally photography. Thx for your videos, i like how you doing your street photos!
I picked up an original 5D at the beginning of the year, and have used it exclusively for all my walkaround shooting where I'm not using film. Pair that with some solid vintage manual focus lenses, and that's all I really need most of the time. I do have newer gear and "nice lenses" but they usually stay in the bag except for events and photoshoots.
Brilliant review thank you. Exactly what I wanted to hear.
Excellent and very interesting comparison test....I've been offered a 5d Mk1 at a great price and this has convinced me to go for it 👍
TBH the color science of the 5D Mark I is so beautiful! The color rendition is so faithful (without overdoing the reds as the successors of this camera did) Skin tones in this camera and the 1Ds Mark II are beautiful.
I thought both cameras shot beautiful photos. I'd go with the mark 1. I apply the same philosophy to my nikon system...I own the D3 and I love it. I really like the output on the mark 1 as well! Great video.
~ I've had the Canon 10D, the 40D, the 5D Mk2, the 5D Mk3 and now I own the 5D Mk4. The Mk4 blows all my other cameras away with the brilliant resolution and the latitude of the sensor .. I can push that sensor to crazy limits completely impossible with all the others .. I love my 5D Mk4 .. PS: I shoot musicians for music magazines, so low light capabilities is everything for me .. ;-)
Have you shifted to Sony , by any chance ?
@@sauravbasu8805 - No chance. I now own the EOS R5 and I will never want another camera. Handling and resolution is out of this world .. I may now sell my 5D3 & 5D4 .. ;-) ..
Loved the video, also loved all of the subjects, fantastic stuff. 👍😁🏴
I've got a 5d MkI and I know I'll keep it forever, but I'm impressed with this comparison. I agree about the lack of performance on the 5d at high ISO, but at "normal" light conditions it performs very very respectably. I didn't expect how similar the "canon color" would be between sensors so apart in time.
Thank you for this video.
Legit just got a mark I, picking it up tomorrow, thankyou for this video
Enjoy it!
Thank you for the great video. This maybe my first camera setup
Great video! You have a really nice way with strangers 😊
Some one tell me plz... for ytb 200d 2 or 5d 2 is better??
The quality of the images from the Mk1 and Mk2 has always been great even by today's standards. But it wasn't until the Mk3 when Canon put a legitimate autofocus system into the mix. I remember when I was on my Mk2 and all of the Nikon D700 people were just eating my lunch over their autofocus system. And they deserved to brag. The first two 5D's were and still are very good cameras, but once you've gone at least Mk3, it's hard to look back. But as you said, for a casual shooter who doesn't need a 60+ point system, the Mk1 or Mk2 are a huge bang for the buck. Cool video man!
I agree 100%. From mark III on the 5d series is all it needs to be for basically all sorts of professional use. 5d classic has some very nice IQ at moderate iso settings but the camera is a dinosaur and as much as I love it (I still keep one) I wouldn´t dare to shoot a paid asignment with it that requires autofocus.
@@petrvokurek2286 I'd dare, and I do shoot weddings with it. I get more jobs because of it as well.
This is great - you've got another subscriber!
Stumbled across you on TH-cam as you do! Brilliant love every video
Dude, you are fantastic!
Love your channel mahn. Great video
Never mind the comparison (results were as expected in these conditions), I very much enjoyed watching you take pictures on the streets and interacting with the people! Great video! Keep it up.
Great video and a great real world review, iv the 5d last two yrs and its a dream, technoligy can get in the way of creativity sometimes, this camera can teach you how to get to know your camera first
Fantastic advice and video👍😁
mate you actually convinced me, im gonna go ahead and buy one tomorrow. thanks a lot!
love this video very much, watching it again after 2 years, when i decided thanks to it to bough my Canon 5D Classic. And it was an excellent purchase, from than i have shooted on it around 50.000 photos, still working pretty well on ISO 100-1000 with also budget lenses 50mm 1.8 and 40mm 2.8 and its still a beautifull experience!
Xmas 2018 I purchased a couple of Mk1's on the strength of this review & can confirm that you were indeed true to your word Pablo
Hi Pablo! Your channel is really nice, congrats ! I'm a 750D user, and I feel I get amazing shots with it, suffering from time to time with ISO and all, but really wondering about stepping up where... I really like videos too, so I'm kinda inclined to go for the Sonys but I'm so comfortable with Canon and I can do stuff so quickly with it... ohhh life ! Anyway, keep up, great vids :)))
the 750D isn't too far off the same image quality to the 5D if you downscale to the same 12mp from the 750D's 24mp. what lenses do you currently own and what subject matter do you shoot? those are the two main factors when it comes to gear anyway.
I'm a Sony shooter from having a Fuji, Panasonic, Olympus and Canon setups over the last 12 years. mirrorless for about half of that. the different sensor sizes really comes down to detail and colour more than high ISO. the smaller sensor allow for smaller lenses which still retain bright apertures so the ISO can be lowered. APS-C is quite the sweet spot in terms of size and output. the main reason I have an A7Rii is that my promo work does get blown up to A0 or larger for posters during the Edinburgh Fringe. my live gig work is done on an A6300 due to the files being downsampled (usually to 12mp) and the focussing system covering more of the frame.
the lighter the gear the more likely I'll take it out with me (A7Rii with the Samyang 35mm 2.8 is my daily). Sony's charging via USB has been a godsend on multiple occasions. their dynamic range is incredible. the video really nice a detailed.
go with whichever company has the lenses you want (with Sony you can adapt most to it which is a bonus) and the features you need.
The words from that elderly gentleman were spoken from the heart. As for the camera's, the 5D for the price is truly a win.
It’s worth noting that the 30D is essentially a crop sensor version of the 5D Classic as they share the same DIGIC sensor. They can currently be bought for just £75 on mpb which is a steal.
40D isn't far off either and has 10mp with anti dust system. 14bit RAW. some weathersealing. CF door opening error message. custom settings on mode dial. basic live view as well. different processor yes, but very similar colours and bite to the files to the 5D. once video got introduced Canon sensors seemed to get soft. much preferred my 40D and 5D files to the 7D ones.
I'd stick with the 5D because full frame.
edshotsdotcodotuk Nah, I had both 5D and 40D as backup/second body, frankly, I barely used the 40D. It never rendered the colors in that lovely way the 5D did, and the shots never came close to being as sharp. Granted, I was probably spoiled by 5D and I got the 40D later on, but still.
And I've used the 30D on couple on occasions and Ed Mayes is right. The output and the character of the files were nearly identical between the 30D and the 5D, granted, without the obvious benefits such as more resolution and detail as well as better High ISO that come with FF sensor, but that signature look was there. 40D left me a bit disappointed in that regard.
Great video, I have a 5D mark 1 and love it. I find it has an almost analogue feel
I am new to photography and I just purchased the canon m 50 and absolutely love it but I am already looking to purchase this camera because it will make me a better photographer and I appreciate your input and a very detailed review. Great job and very much appreciate it.
Thank you so much, thanks for your input I will keep hold of my mark 1
Great take on such a classic camera ... still shooting with my original 5D.
your pics are so awesome and you're so friendly !
For any Nikon shooter out there, get yourself a D700 or even a D3, they both share the same sensor and make stunning images.
Can't agree more dude, first time trying d700 from my junior i knew this camera is no joke. Robust body, color rendition is wow, and its shutter sound, fantastic!
The only gripe I have about my D3 is that it's HEAVY and the shutter is loud af. Otherwise stellar camera even today.
D4 and d800 are better if funds allow these days. A d300 at low ISO`s has exact same images as d700 and d3 by the way, I tested it. You cannot tell them apart and d300 are very cheap now
It is nice to see a lot pro Nikon shooters giving the d700 the respect it deserves.
An interesting review it has given me something to think about
you are great ! such a smart video. thanks
Not even a Canon guy, but I appreciate videos like this! Good work.
Great Video. Ive been contemplating upgrading to a newer camera body as my 5D mkII turns 10 years old this month. I think ill hold in to my money a bit longer as i really enjoy shooting with it and am still very pleased with the images the mkii produces.
Good stuff, thanks.
The quote from the bearded man is so beautiful.
Really cool video! With the constant tech talk on the internet it's so refreshing to see what a 13 year old camera does in the real world. Keep it up :)
Thank you Young man x
I had a 5d mk1 for a good year and a half, and I gotta say it held its own as a backup camera. I used it whenever I did senior portraits, or anything really that didn’t need to be too big printed. But I’ve gotten away with 11x17 prints and they looked pretty damn good. Since then, I shoot everything on my canon EOS 3 :)))))))) #Gang (if you know what I mean)
I bought 2x 5DMkI bodies several years ago, as my very first DSLRs for wedding photography, after the film era. I still own them without upgrading. And very happy.
Thank you, both got great images, not a big difference
I bought a Canon 5D yesterday, should be here in 2 days. Then, I bought one with Err99 message with a battery grip and 4 batteries VERY cheap. Honestly, I'd much rather switch to Sony but, until I get adopted by Oprah, I don't see that happening.
EDIT: I got the Canon 5D today - like brand new! It only has 9,375 shutter actuations! It also had a like-new battery grip that wasn't listed in the ad. I am very excited about this deal. This one came from Korea. No idea how a 13-year-old camera could be so pristine, but I'm sure happy about it.
Enjoy! Let us know how you get on :)
where did you buy it from please? I'm looking for one as well, been playing with a mirrorless Panasonic but I want to get my hands on a full frame DSLR
Good catch, hope you're enjoying it.
awesome! love my mk1 ❤
Very nice review and video. Keep up the good work. :-)
I'm doing photography for more than 30 years. I'm 51 years old and I've used all kinds of cameras. I use both Canon and Nikon all these years. I own two 5D Classic cameras and I'm very satisfied with them. But most of all I'm glad to see young people that recognize and value the true potential of the Canon 5D Classic (and not being fashion & market victims) which actually is a class on its own and has no substitute so far. The only thing I wish is that Canon should do a favor to all these happy 5D users and even after 14 years of the initial production of the 5D, should offer a dedication firmware to the 5D so it can climb up to ISO 6400. since ISO3200 is really clean without losing detail and also add a AUTO ISO feature.
I wouldn't call ISO 3200 clean. Even ISO 800 is hardly clean, and probably the maximum one would want to use. ISO 6400 is abysmal, it's practically all color noise. The 5D does have auto ISO, in the automatic mode. (the little green hollow square on the dial). Adding firmware for ISO 6400 would be useless. ISO 3200 is already only done digitally. What the camera does is expose for half the time ISO 1600 would require, then software adjusts the exposure up by a stop. Literally no different than if you did it in a program. ISO 50 is the same way, but a bit more useful because it exposes twice as long as ISO 100, then adjusts the signal down by a stop, which generally works well because you won't really notice a 1 stop loss in the highlight detail. It's essentially an easy ETTR mode for when the camera's metering system wants to expose to the center.
I've had the 5D MkI and 50mm f1.8 as my standard set-up for several years. I've just jumped ship to a brand new A7iii for several reasons; one being portability, video, SD card not flash card, Wifi etc
Hands down the 5D is an incredible camera and there is no way that I'd have gone for the MkIV. I wanted to leave DSLR for Mirrorless and nothing compares to the Sony for that. I think that the point that a lot of people have missed here is that between these two set-ups; go for the MkI - especially if you're new to photography. It's a great camera and will do you proud.
I agree with you, especially in daylight and base iso you can have the same results! - from a 2007 dslr user
Excellent review.
i just purchased mki from ebay today and can';t wait to see it delivered at my front door. can't wait to play with it. good review anyway!
Excellent video, I agree with all you said, "features" in new cameras are insane, more than anyone could need, and the difference in output other than file size is very small.
Great video Pablo, we're big fans of buying second hand gear. We started on the 5D Mark II which is still a fantastic camera, and have just bought a virtually new (4000 shutter count) second hand Mk III for a fraction of the cost of a Mk IV. As we're not professionals it just doesn't seem to make sense to fork out the cost of the newest, latest models :)
That great work you done thanks.
Lovely video thanks also lovely portraits. Images from my 8mp canon 350 look as good as from my higher specked 70d so this all rings very true
Very useful review! Thank you!
The first version of Mark is really good, I even thought about why I bought the 5D MKIV)))
But the main difference of course will be the work at high ISO, speed of focusing, rate of fire, inability to shoot video.
Wow such an amazing review ! I have a t5i and I am really looking forward to use a full frame camera :) I think I can do it with that option :)
I have a mid level Canon 80D for my youtube videos but find that I often just whip out the old Galaxy phone for quick shots when I'm out and about. Both give me great results, just have to practice, practice, practice
I too have a 5D Mk1 ...a hand me down from one of my cousins, and i dont want to part with it , though i also have a 6D now. I cant quite point out the reason but could agree more with you about the almost "magical quality" in the images from 5D! The no frills helps you focus on essentials e.g. the low resolution back screen discourages you to keep checking the pics taken and keep pushing you to get better pics while downloading the pics into the computer always is a pleasant experience after having seen the poor quality pic on the camera LCD. :)
Been looking for a camera but got no idea now I do Cheers
nice one well done
Love the mk1, the images are so film like and is an excellent camera as long as you're shooting in good light and don't want to make large prints.
There are some wise hidden gems of people on our streets that have so much to give if we just stop and listen to them
Impressive how powerful the 5D mark i is. 👏🏾
great, just bought a mark ii and i think i’m gonna be just fine! thanks for the video, will subscribe.