I am sure there are lost recordings waiting to be discovered. The original stories I remember hearing were only of the 1953 session and My Happiness (which was “found”). The additional recording sessions make more sense, leading up to the addition of Scotty and Bill and then “That’s All Right”. Thanks for this video!
One more thought about lost songs: In his book ‘Elvis-A life in Music’ (the bible of Elvis recordings and releases), E. Jorgensen writes that Elvis gave concerts totalling 3 x 45 minutes shortly after signing with RCA at the end of 1955 and played cover versions of ‘Rock around the Clock’ and ‘Only You’ (we know of songs such as ‘Fool, Fool, Fool’, ‘Hearts made of stone’, ‘Maybellene’, ‘Tweedle Dee’ - all live versions and released in recent years). The Sun material just wasn't enough for that. It is absolutely conceivable that Elvis recorded other contemporary songs at Sun, for whatever purpose. And yes, perhaps they were below standard and not suitable for release. But they did exist - maybe. I agree that Sam Phillips couldn't have known how successful Elvis would be from 1956 onwards and so may have deleted tapes because he needed them for other purposes.
There has to be numerous outtakes or rehearsals of songs still to be found…..well we dare to dream…..even if it’s few seconds of E goofing around…..all pure gold to me
I may eventually be proven wrong, but I really doubt that after nearly 70 years there's anything from Elvis' Sun era (1954-55) that remains to be discovered. I honestly think any outtakes or studio chatter or unfinished stuff that hadn't already been released by the 1990s would've been issued in the years since.
When I looked in my Elvis sessionography and discography published around 1980 by Martin Hawkins, it states that in early 1954, he recorded Casual Love, and I'll Never Stand In Your Way. In the spring, he called Elvis back into the studio to record Without You. But the session went badly, and nothing came of it, which seems to imply that the latter was never recorded. But this was long before any of those acetates were released. INSIYW has since been released with three other demos, one of which was not even mentioned there.
Elvis must have sung so many songs , going to school or at work, if only we knew what he listened to the jukebox, He had good taste that's for sure, the mind boggles, Oh great video by the way, We love this stuff in the UK, many thanks 👍
Years ago when Sirius radio first started there was an Elvis channel, on some nights Elvis long time friend George Klein would DJ and have guests and trivia..one night on Elvis Birthday, they had Sam Philips on as a guest..he spoke about Elvis early recordings. He said initially Elvis didnt have his own sound, he could sing with a beautiful voice and imitate singers of that era down to a tee. Sun had hours and hours work of Elvis and the- Blue Moon boys (Scotty and Bill) doing song after song to try to find what might be unique. Sam said, Elvis loved Dean Martin..did a great copy of a song from a Martin and Lewis movie he saw calked "Sailors Polka" and had also "Joe Turners" Rocket 88, along with others, these where all recorded on acetate which was volitile and really expensive, he said sadly, that while trying to record newer songs they would use the acetate over and over a few times, which would destroy the songs sung underneath..he said, he did have hours and hours worth, which would have been worth millions, if he would have saved them, but who could have known then but he recalled many where fantastic renditions that the public would have liked
Thanks for sharing friend! That is interesting for Sam to say that about recording over and over on acetate. I don't think you can do that. Acetate is what would be considered the "master disc". You can't record over grooves that were already made. And I don't think he did that after he got his tape machine to record. Tape, you can record several times over, due to the erase head.
This idea is new to me, but not absurd. Especially because of the mention on the Sun Record website. But beyond that, I think that there were certainly quite a few recordings from Elvis' Sun era that were simply “overlooked”, “forgotten”, “over-recorded” (Sam Phillips also used the same tapes several times). In the book ‘Elvis, A life in Music’, Ernst Jorgensen mentions a song that was ‘lost’ at Sun Record when it was "tidied up and thrown" away. Yes, I am firmly convinced that there are more than the songs we know, but some will simply have been destroyed ... what a pity!
@@hareontherun I think you’re right. With all that was happening and so fast, I’m sure archiving tapes was the last thing they were worried about. But I’m still holding out hope that something will surface! Thanks for watching, friend!
@@Beyond_Graceland Even if they were recorded Sam didn't think they were good enough to be released. At that time no one knew that Elvis got so big as he did, so since he was a nobody at that time, Sam didn't think it mattered. Also it could be recordings Elvis did for himself and took with him back home and they got lost somewhere. He moved twice after this, so those records can have gone lost in the moving. Maybe Elvis and Sam thought those two songs sounded "good on paper" but when they heard them they decided to trash them and come up with something better. Lastly there is also this possibility that they had mixed up the artist names and it's not even Elvis who recorded those songs. So we are looking in the wrong direction.
There were supposed to have been a lot more recordings done at Sun Records that were "lost" or wiped.. Little mama, maybelline, satisfied, tennessee saturday night, hearts of stone, uncle pen etc...
When the first collection on CD came out, it was suggested that Elvis also recorded Rock around The Clock around this time. I never heard, if anybody actually searched for it.
@@felixdk8727the live version of rock around the clock is confirmed. Unfortunately the acetate is in such poor condition that they’ve not been able to restore it to a reasonable standard….yet!
@@freddysnip6257 I am sorry for my rude comment. I thought, it was just hype. I have never registrated any information on the performance, since I read about it more than 30 years ago.
The answer is YES. Several songs, actually. I can't remember the exact details of the story but something like 19 tapes were shipped to RCA from Sun Studios. They are catalogued and documented however a few have gone missing and a few have been lost only to be found decades later. One tape was found in the drawer of an RCA-staffers desk in the late 1980's when the dude retired. Some tapes have never been found and a few songs exist as acetate discs only. The few acetates are: "I'll never stand in your way" and "It wouldn't be the same without you". Of the 24 documented songs recorded at Sun, only 22 are known to exist. "I got a woman" and "Satisfied" are currently unaccounted for. What's interesting is that "Satisfied" comes from the September '54 session, where the other five songs recorded at that session still exist. "I got a woman" was recorded during the February '55 session so the odds of these two songs being on the same tape are improbable. So that means at least two tapes are missing. Other songs recorded at Sun: "How do you think I feel?" was at the very least attempted at Sun. A tape exists of what is believed to be a rehearsal with Scotty's guitar quite loud and drums fairly quiet with Elvis off-mike. This song was later recorded at RCA. "Uncle Penn" was supposedly recorded during the September '54 session. One take is listed on a session sheet from that recording but since it was only a single take, it may have been recorded over. "Oakie Boogie" One take from the December '54 session. Again, probably recorded over since only one take was recorded and may have been deemed unsatisfactory. "Tennessee Saturday Night" Two takes during the July '54 Session. Documented on Session sheets and was slated for release on "Elvis for Everyone!" in 1965. No movement since. Tape is assumed lost. "Give me more, more, more of your Kisses" shows up on the November '55 session sheets in name only. No takes noted. May have been attempted but not actually recorded. If you ask me, I don't think Elvis recorded "Tiger Man" at Sun. I honestly think he's just mis-remembering or blurring two memories. I think he meant to say "Mystery Train" because even during the '68 Comeback Special; he does a song that starts out as "Mystery Train, blends into Tiger Man then back into Mystery Train".
Wow! That’s a lot of great information, thanks so much for sharing it! Your theory on Tiger Man makes sense. I saw that he spoke about it being “his second recording” but we have the recordings of his first and second ever. So fun to dig through it all and try to connect as many dots as we can! ⚡️
@That_AMC_Guy What you say about him mixing up Tiger Man and Mystery Train could well be the truth. Everything happened so fast to him after Sun that I'm sure it was hard for him to remember everything clearly.Elvis was known to be a little hazy on details. The tape you mentioned was found in Steve Scholes desk Drawer after he retired...it contained the Harbour Lights recording released later on A Legendary Performer LP. Then later again the tape containing When it Rains it Really Pours from his final Sun Session turned up in a mislabelled box in the RCA vault whilst they were searching for something else. That recording was issued on another Legendary Perfomer LP. Interestingly it was during that session that Sam received the phone call telling him the deal with RCA had been completed and Sam was forced to shut the session down...amazing stuff huh?
@@Elvisultimatefanchannel Right on! Thank you for that. I couldn't remember the name Steve Scholes to save my life. I also seem to recall a "lost" Elvis movie song from the early 60's being found within the last 10-15 years. Same story: they went into the RCA vaults, started pulling tapes and found a session tape to a movie song they thought was lost. Does that ring a bell? Do you know what song it was?
As far as the recording of Uncle Penn goes, I seem to recall a write up in the New Musical Express in the 1960s that this record had been found and was to be released shortly. A few weeks later, a new statement appeared that said "the production standard was not good enough" and therefore would not be released. If this is true, surely someone must have listened to it to come to this conclusion. Perhaps the NME could help on this one?
Dutch Elvis fan Hans Langbroek did hear a part of this song during a phonecall, and is probably the only person who did hear this recording of Uncle Penn. Pyramid records did want to release this in 1967, and did put an add in NME. Maybe it was below standards, or maybe RCA did forbid the release?
Interestingly, Fats Domino recorded "Careless Love" in 1950. What's a little odd is on the photo for "Careless Love," it says "Blueberry Hill" but below says "Careless Love" & that is what he sang. Anything else with the words Careless Love that I've seen in regards to Elvis relates only to a book with that title written by Peter Guralnick. But who knows -- so much involved to unravel when it comes to this man.
@@carolhayar3037 oh wow! Thanks for sharing that info! You know, I thought about the Guralnick book title as well and figured he found something during his research that would connect the dots to a recording of it. But I couldn’t find anything. Yes, always something new when you least expect it!
I know My Happiness/That's When Your Heartaches Begin was recorded straight to acetate (not on reel-to-reel tape), so I would assume if there's more self-funded recordings, that was probably also the case. So unless Sam dubbed a copy for himself, he may have never had a copy. Maybe there's a acetate or two out there of lost recordings that will show up someday.
Sam Phillips did keep some elvis masters in his vault .he said so himself as did both of his kids knox and jerry .the songs as far i know are being stored in a vault is it at the newer sam c phillips recording studios or else where .who knows .
I have seen so many documentaries that state that Elvis recorded My Happiness for his mum's birthday and that's simply not true. If you check the Spa Guy Channel Billy Stallings he is an Elvis historian and he checked all the facts. Elvis Presley First Record My Happiness What Happened To It Spa Guy It's amazing that even Sun Records keep changing their story so many times.
@@Allen-vl7zq I do agree with you. Elvis did give the acetate record of That's Where Your Heartaches Begin to a male friend called Ed Leek its documented by the Elvis Historian The Spa Guy under the title Elvis Presley First Record My Happiness What Happened To It ? I'm certain that Elvis' mother would have never parted with it.
No way would Elvis or his mother have thrown away that acetate(s). I would imagine all of Elvis’ and Gladys’ things are somewhere on Graceland property. Has anyone specifically looked for those records?
Hi Emily, your channel just popped up so I watched this video. I've been an Elvis fan since the late 1960's when I was a kid and I'm currently replacing everything recording I have and more as MP3's. I've still got all my vynals but since YT came into play, I've found a lot more recordings than I ever knew existed and I love the recording sessions. If I can help, give me a shout.
Just stumbled across your channel and really enjoyed it so just subscribed. I think Sam was a real duck and diver,so l wouldn't put anything past him. Luv the show,Mark from London England.
Hey, Mark! Thanks for checking out the video and for the support! Haha yep, Sam was a wildcard but my biggest inspiration to get into audio engineering. ⚡
I want to add that, Elvis references one of these acetates in an early 1956 interview, and there is a really cool Magazine put out in 1956, all about Elvis, and the story of the acetate come up . and one more theory. Remember when Elvis said in 1969, "I came in to record a song, and guy put the record out"....well, elvis didn't have a good memory, but what if that third acetate is one of Elvis actually singing, "That's all right" with just him and his guitar. Obviously Sam didn't "put out" that acoustic version, (if one existed), but I don't discount anything as anything is possible. And one more thing...RCA has always been very secretive about Elvis' Sun era.....One more title, "tennessee Saturday night" which was a popular song at the time, and has been rumored to be on one of the Sun tapes, could be another one they are holding back. (Why has my intial post been deleted twice in one day?)
For years "Casual love (affair)" has been rumoured to be on the 2nd private acetate. However, since Elvis recorded covers for his private acetates, why can no song of that title by any artist be found recorded and released prior to January 4, 1954? As for other titles mention being performed live or on radio and recorded, a bunch of tapes featuring these songs were badly damaged and could not be used anymore. According to rumours Gary Pepper taped all of Elvis' performances on the "Louisiana Hayride" but destroyed the tapes when Elvis passed away. If true a real pity. It is known Elvis recorded at home or at the home of a friend, like Eddie Fadall. Someone tricked Eddie Fadall into loaning out his tape and it appeared on the bootleg LP "Forever young, forever beautiful".
I enjoyed your take on this but i honestly think we have the two recordings he did thankfully presearved on acetate which is amazing the june recording was when Sam got him to try out without you you not happy with that he probably erased the tape then he gets him back in july for an audition the tracks on the acetates speak for themelves he only paid for two the other titles are just mistakes in time thats my view we should be very gratefull those two acetates survived all this that said i enjoyed your take on this time period it has long fascinated me
@@Beyond_Graceland No what i meant was titles were probably mistaken over the years its been 70 years now but yes Sam did erase stuff he didnt like he was on a tight budget he would reuse tape hense we dont have many sun outtakes
What didnt mention a track that was recorded and lost satisfied its only a minute something long when RCA got the tapes from sun 15 of them some got lost along the way you might want to reasearch that all the best Robrt
@@mikec6822 very true the Sun era is totally fascinating what was pure joy when live recordings started to emerge seemingly he did rock around the clock but that has never turned up and what about fool fool fool recorded at a radio station pure joy
I don't know, could some of Elvis's early recordings that are lost to time could they have been because of that careless 2008 fire from Sony and other companies that lost a lot of their archives their production tapes and early pressings stampers in a fire almost 17 years ago, I don't remember when that happened because I wasn't aware of it back then but probably less than 10 years ago I learned about it. But the people who were keeping the archives they were pretty careless and they weren't in fully climate-controlled areas where the tape and the film reels when it disintegrates plus a lot of the more movie related things were that early type of film that can combust easily.
From one fan to another, I love your insight and knowledge! Please tell me you are on other social media? Love what you are doing and I learned a lot listening to this.
@@MrMatthewScarborough hey thanks for watching, friend! I have thought about carrying this over to other socials like Instagram or even TikTok. I’ll look into it and see what kind of Elvis content would work best for it! 🩵⚡️
Would think that if Elvis paid for the January, 1954 recording session himself, he would have been given an acetate of the recordings. Think the song titles, "Casual Love Affair" and "Careless Love" are good song titles. Don't know if Sun/Sam Phillips also made or kept acetate recordings of people who paid for their own recording sessions. Even if he did, there's a good chance at some point the tapes of the recordings were recorded over, because recording tape was expensive. If an acetate or acetates of the two songs exists, hopefully it can be found either at Sun or at Graceland. Although, a number of years ago, a high school friend of Elvis's came forward with an acetate that Elvis had made at Sun, which he gave to his friend, and never asked for it back. Forget which song or songs were on this acetate. The way tapes are labeled (Often inaccurately or misleadingly), unknown songs are discovered occasionally. Several years ago, an alternate version of one of Elvis's early '60s movies songs was discovered on a tape owned by RCA or the movie studio that produced the movie. So there's always hope of finding something new!
The acetates were recorded directly on wax, hence the term acetate recording. Marion Keisker did record however the latter part of my Happiness also on tape, since she heard something in his voice, and wanted to show it to Sam Phillips who was not around at the self-financed session on July 18, 1953.
How about the following mystery Sun titles of Elvis? Tiger man. ( Elvis mentioned it himself in the early 70's as his second Sun recording. It never did show up tho. Satisfied, the gospel song. There is an empty tapebox with this song depicted in the booklet of A legendary Performer volume 2 in 1976. I did happen to meet Sam in 2001 and asked him about this song. He said I'm sorry I don't recall And let's not forget Harbor lights wich was released in 1976. Sam Phillips handed this tape over in 1955, but it was found back in the drawer of Steve Sholes his desk after he died in 1968. In 1967 Pyramid records announced the release of Elvis his uncle Penn recorded at the Louisiana Hayride. It was withdrawn at the last moment. It was stated by Dutch expert hans langbroek, that he heard a short fragment of the song over the phone, and said it was indeed Elvis. Rock around the clock acetate is in a private collection, but in very poor condition. How about the rumour that Elvis was on television allready in 1955 in a show hosted by Roy Orbinson? Sam Phillips is known for not keeping a file of recordings. He could indeed kept the recording of Casual Love Affair himself, or it could be in private hands, or maybe it was also in the drawer of the desk of Steve Sholes. What strikes me the most is that we still to this day never heard this song. There is also a possibility that the tape was indeed handed over to RCA in 1955, but got destroyed by the vault clean out in 1959 by RCA where thousands of tapes were destroyed to save storage space, and that Casual Love affair was destroyed with it. Let's not forget that there is not an original mastertape anymore of That's allright. They did use a needledrop of an original Sun single in mint condition for the Boy From Tupelo set. On the RCA album where the song was published we here the RCA reverb version. Only time will tell if they ever find more lost Sun recordings, but we also need to be aware of the fact that people can also create new songs with AI technology, pretending it is Elvis. (Yes it is possible with this advanced technology. Please let me know what you think Beyond Graceland.
@@freddysnip6257 all great insights, friend! It’s so cool there are so many things left to find in the Elvis world. Yes, unfortunately thousands of master prints and recordings have been lost damaged or destroyed (and not just Elvis material) over the years. Due to lack of care or knowledge. It’s a shame. But, it is nice to see a community of Elvis fans that take this stuff seriously and want to preserve what is available and discover what may have been lost if possible. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts and insights with us!🩵⚡️
@@Beyond_Graceland Thank you for replying, I appreciate it. Yes is true, a lot was lost, destroyed, retrieved from trash, stolen, or even lost in a fire, when thousands of masters were lost of several artists on different labels.
Hey Emily This is the exact kind of content I'm interested in and have been searching for! Please continue making these kinds of videos! On the matter, it's such a shame that we don't have all these Sun recordings! So many takes are lost and maybe even these songs! I hope we'll get to hear them someday!
@@BloxyTiger. I’m so glad you’re enjoying the videos! This is something I’ve wanted to do for a very long time now and so excited to finally be able to. Thanks for the support, friend! ⚡️
Elvis, during later August 1970 Vegas show monologues (audience recorded) mentioned several times having recorded Tiger Man at Sun studio, as one of the first songs he ever recorded. He eventually recorded it as a loose funky jam in the studio much later in 1975. But as far as the early 50’s version: he said “but not to many got to hear it”. It was not a joke, because he repeated it in a serious manner during several shows, and he was consistent about it. It would make no sense to just make that up as a joke. The recording, if it exists, then surviving until today, is a very different matter altogether. But it isn’t impossible. Rufus Thomas’ version was great as well as all of Elvis’ live versions. How great would Elvis’ initial version would have been ?
@@Beyond_Graceland mine as well ! :-) I can almost imagine how it would (could) have sounded with that echo effect and hypnotic rhythm, would for sure have been so cool… 70 years later, these Elvis at Sun recordings still sound out-of-this-world magical. Even the ballads, like “Blue Moon”. Haunting, mysterious.
I'm a DJ on a "50s" music show in Brookings Or. It's my understanding that the copy of That's aright . that Dewy plaid was an acetate rough recording of the song, not the same as the released. If that is true do you know where I could hear the original. I read somewhere that it might in England and it's the most valuable record in the world
@@raygary7771 I believe you’re right about it just being an acetate. He would have just cut that and brought to Dewey before sending it off to master. That’s a great question on where that original acetate of “That’s Alright, Mama”. I could be wrong but it might be at Graceland now? Thanks for watching, friend! 🩵⚡️
I have seen this song mentioned a few times. However, I haven't been able to find anything concrete about it. Just in fan forums and discussions. Worth a deeper look though!
Interesting idea to find unreleased Elvis private recordings....I found an album by Eddie Clendening and the Blue Ribbon Boys - Shake Rattle and Blue Moon on youtube, which includes 'Casual Love Affair'. The group sound like an Elvis influenced (very) as most of the album songs were recorded by Elvis.
Interesting video. I see the two following issues with the receipts: 1. Why is there not a copy of the My Happiness session receipt which would allow us to compare the other two receipts? If any of the three receipts survived in the Memphis Recording Studios archives, wouldn't it have been the one supporting the most famous recording story which Marion personally told so many times? The lack of this receipt does not prove the other two are fake, but its absence is conspicuous. 2. Why are there two different dates on both receipts? For instance, the Jan 4th receipt is dated Jan 6th. Elvis did record a second record on Jan 4th, but both the first time with My Happiness and on Jan 4th, Elvis walked out of Memphis Recording Studio with an acetate in his hands. Why would the receipt have been typed up two days later and marked "paid"? It is not as if the studio recorded the song, then transferred it to acetate for the customer to pick up two days later. The recording was directly to acetate and the customer, who paid in advance of the recording session, left the studio with the finished product, no later visits required. If I remember correctly, several years ago, the Spa Guy put out multiple videos tracking these acetates down, so you might visit his TH-cam page. My recollection is Elvis borrowed the money for the Jan 4th session from a co-worker (this was prior to Crown Electric) and left the acetate with this friend, who had a record player at his home where they traveled to listen to the record after the session and Elvis was dissatisfied with how he sounded, so he never re-collected the acetate from this friend. I believe this story was also related in a book by Bill Burk, which I think was titled The Memphis Years, but I cannot remember for certain. Supporting this story is the fact Elvis, Gladys, and Vernon did not own a record player at their home at Alabama Ave, so the first time Elvis brought home a copy of "That's Alright", he borrowed the record player of the Jewish family who lived upstairs. The mother of the family told Elvis he could borrow the player all summer as they were leaving for vacation. She also is the person who bought Elvis his first set of cuff links, which she gave him as a high school graduation present in June 1953. This family also owned the phone which took the call from Dewey Phillips the night he spun That's Alright over and over and interviewed Elvis on air because the Presley's did not own a phone (nor did they own a phone at their next house where Vernon walked into the neighbor's house so many times to use their phone, the neighbor put a lock on the screen door).
@@manlystranger4973 awesome stuff here! I wish there was a way to authenticate the receipts. As for the different dates, this could actually be because the recording would need to be “cut” or transferred to an acetate record. I did read that once Sam got his tape machine (1951) that he wouldn’t record straight to acetate. Which would be much better for him since you can’t re-record on acetate like you can tape. So one date would be the recording day and the second when the artist picked up the cut acetate.
I must say, some of the spa guy's stories are interesting but some have been proven to be innaccurate. Also, the story about the classmate who held on to the record for decades has many holes in it. I think the two dates do indicate that one day was the day he recorded the songs, and the other was the day he walked out with the record. I don't think there is any other way to explain that one. If one was going to fake these reciepts, they wouldn't put two dates. Also, some one also made the comment that is one is going to make a fake reciept why choose a date that hasn't been tied to specific Elvis recording titles.
@ImpossibleDream67 I think you might need to re read my post again. What I said was there is a strong belief that Elvis recorded Tiger Man at Sun in the 1950's but the tape was either lost or erased.Yes I know he sang it later in his career..beginning at the NBC TV Special and continued on in his live performances. Elvis made a comment in 1970 from the stage of the international hotel that Tiger Man was the 2nd song he ever recorded. As for Rag Mop neither of us can say categorically wether he recorded it or not as it is only rumoured. Please do not call me silly Thank you
@ImpossibleDream67 Stop twisting everything I say. I said its a rumor he may have sang Rag Mop, You and I will never know for sure. I will no longer reply to any of your replies as you are too argumentative and not in the spirit of this channel
Ooops forgot to show where to find Casual Love Affair :This is where you can find Casual Love Affair by Eddie Clendening & the blue ribbon boys & it DOES sound like a song Elvis would sing. th-cam.com/video/HTUTuL-WekE/w-d-xo.html
Regarding the receipts... First, who saved them? His Mother? Dad? If ssso why? Tax purposes? Just because there waass no way to take. a picture due to the lack of celphone technology? Seriously, how about those non torn holes at the top of receipt on the right. Which, by the way,, is how you should vote this faall ... to the RIGHT! .. to the RIGHT!... to the RIGHT!... If this thing originaated on a 2-ring binder, wouldn't the SSecretary just tear it away? The one on the left shows a torn spot aaaat the top but where's the holes on each sside?
Sam was a con man and a obvious liar, often telling stories to put himself in a good light. E. G new car for Carl perkins for being the first sun artist to sell a million copies, when Carl got his royalty check there was a deduction for the car, he paid for it himself, and later sued Sam for unpaid royalties. So it's highly likely Sam kept hold of some of Elvis's sun recordings. Probably thinking that if he fell on hard times he could get a 3rd party label to release them claiming they were private recordings etc. But that never happened so it's likely they've been lost to time or are sitting in a wooden crate in a storeroom, and nobody knows.
@@adrinathegreat3095 a Carl fan, alright! Unfortunately I have heard that about the car. You read Carl’s book?? I really love reading that one. I’m originally from Jackson, TN, so I grew up on Carl! Thanks for watching, friend! 🩵⚡️
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Thank you, hope someone will find “new songs”. It’s always nice to hear something new of Elvis.
I am sure there are lost recordings waiting to be discovered. The original stories I remember hearing were only of the 1953 session and My Happiness (which was “found”). The additional recording sessions make more sense, leading up to the addition of Scotty and Bill and then “That’s All Right”. Thanks for this video!
@@patbrady444 thanks for watching, friend! 🩵⚡️
Thank you for all the info! I hope so new songs will one day appear
One more thought about lost songs: In his book ‘Elvis-A life in Music’ (the bible of Elvis recordings and releases), E. Jorgensen writes that Elvis gave concerts totalling 3 x 45 minutes shortly after signing with RCA at the end of 1955 and played cover versions of ‘Rock around the Clock’ and ‘Only You’ (we know of songs such as ‘Fool, Fool, Fool’, ‘Hearts made of stone’, ‘Maybellene’, ‘Tweedle Dee’ - all live versions and released in recent years). The Sun material just wasn't enough for that. It is absolutely conceivable that Elvis recorded other contemporary songs at Sun, for whatever purpose. And yes, perhaps they were below standard and not suitable for release. But they did exist - maybe.
I agree that Sam Phillips couldn't have known how successful Elvis would be from 1956 onwards and so may have deleted tapes because he needed them for other purposes.
There has to be numerous outtakes or rehearsals of songs still to be found…..well we dare to dream…..even if it’s few seconds of E goofing around…..all pure gold to me
Absolutely! My thoughts exactly ⚡️
I may eventually be proven wrong, but I really doubt that after nearly 70 years there's anything from Elvis' Sun era (1954-55) that remains to be discovered. I honestly think any outtakes or studio chatter or unfinished stuff that hadn't already been released by the 1990s would've been issued in the years since.
@@anthonykimball7463 you may be well right.
Excellent channel, very informative. Keep up the good work!
@@freemanreed5228 thanks so much, friend! 🩵⚡️
When I looked in my Elvis sessionography and discography published around 1980 by Martin Hawkins, it states that in early 1954, he recorded Casual Love, and I'll Never Stand In Your Way. In the spring, he called Elvis back into the studio to record Without You. But the session went badly, and nothing came of it, which seems to imply that the latter was never recorded. But this was long before any of those acetates were released. INSIYW has since been released with three other demos, one of which was not even mentioned there.
Good research and knowledge of early roots.
@@dorepage7076 thanks,friend! 🩵⚡️
It has also been said that there is an unreleased master of I Got A Woman. To date, it has never been found
Elvis must have sung so many songs , going to school or at work, if only we knew what he listened to the jukebox,
He had good taste that's for sure, the mind boggles,
Oh great video by the way,
We love this stuff in the UK, many thanks 👍
@@garyanderson9644 so many! Thanks for watching, friend! 🩵⚡️
AWSEOME detective work !!
@@gussplat thanks for watching, friend! 🩵⚡️
Years ago when Sirius radio first started there was an Elvis channel, on some nights Elvis long time friend George Klein would DJ and have guests and trivia..one night on Elvis Birthday, they had Sam Philips on as a guest..he spoke about Elvis early recordings. He said initially Elvis didnt have his own sound, he could sing with a beautiful voice and imitate singers of that era down to a tee. Sun had hours and hours work of Elvis and the- Blue Moon boys (Scotty and Bill) doing song after song to try to find what might be unique. Sam said, Elvis loved Dean Martin..did a great copy of a song from a Martin and Lewis movie he saw calked "Sailors Polka" and had also "Joe Turners" Rocket 88, along with others, these where all recorded on acetate which was volitile and really expensive, he said sadly, that while trying to record newer songs they would use the acetate over and over a few times, which would destroy the songs sung underneath..he said, he did have hours and hours worth, which would have been worth millions, if he would have saved them, but who could have known then but he recalled many where fantastic renditions that the public would have liked
Thanks for sharing friend! That is interesting for Sam to say that about recording over and over on acetate. I don't think you can do that. Acetate is what would be considered the "master disc". You can't record over grooves that were already made. And I don't think he did that after he got his tape machine to record. Tape, you can record several times over, due to the erase head.
You cannot "record over" an acetate disk. You were thinking of tape, which can be recorded over.
This idea is new to me, but not absurd. Especially because of the mention on the Sun Record website.
But beyond that, I think that there were certainly quite a few recordings from Elvis' Sun era that were simply “overlooked”, “forgotten”, “over-recorded” (Sam Phillips also used the same tapes several times). In the book ‘Elvis, A life in Music’, Ernst Jorgensen mentions a song that was ‘lost’ at Sun Record when it was "tidied up and thrown" away.
Yes, I am firmly convinced that there are more than the songs we know, but some will simply have been destroyed ... what a pity!
@@hareontherun I think you’re right. With all that was happening and so fast, I’m sure archiving tapes was the last thing they were worried about. But I’m still holding out hope that something will surface! Thanks for watching, friend!
@@Beyond_Graceland Even if they were recorded Sam didn't think they were good enough to be released. At that time no one knew that Elvis got so big as he did, so since he was a nobody at that time, Sam didn't think it mattered. Also it could be recordings Elvis did for himself and took with him back home and they got lost somewhere. He moved twice after this, so those records can have gone lost in the moving. Maybe Elvis and Sam thought those two songs sounded "good on paper" but when they heard them they decided to trash them and come up with something better. Lastly there is also this possibility that they had mixed up the artist names and it's not even Elvis who recorded those songs. So we are looking in the wrong direction.
There were supposed to have been a lot more recordings done at Sun Records that were "lost" or wiped..
Little mama, maybelline, satisfied, tennessee saturday night, hearts of stone, uncle pen etc...
That makes more sense than Marion Keisker remembering Elvis from a year prior...
When the first collection on CD came out, it was suggested that Elvis also recorded Rock around The Clock around this time. I never heard, if anybody actually searched for it.
Rock around the clock is not a studio recording, but a Hayride Performance. It does excist on an acetate in poor condition.
@@felixdk8727No I'm not, but thanks I guess 😊
@@felixdk8727the live version of rock around the clock is confirmed. Unfortunately the acetate is in such poor condition that they’ve not been able to restore it to a reasonable standard….yet!
@@freddysnip6257 I am sorry for my rude comment. I thought, it was just hype. I have never registrated any information on the performance, since I read about it more than 30 years ago.
@@theelvisguru9490 Interersting
The answer is YES. Several songs, actually. I can't remember the exact details of the story but something like 19 tapes were shipped to RCA from Sun Studios. They are catalogued and documented however a few have gone missing and a few have been lost only to be found decades later. One tape was found in the drawer of an RCA-staffers desk in the late 1980's when the dude retired. Some tapes have never been found and a few songs exist as acetate discs only. The few acetates are: "I'll never stand in your way" and "It wouldn't be the same without you".
Of the 24 documented songs recorded at Sun, only 22 are known to exist. "I got a woman" and "Satisfied" are currently unaccounted for. What's interesting is that "Satisfied" comes from the September '54 session, where the other five songs recorded at that session still exist. "I got a woman" was recorded during the February '55 session so the odds of these two songs being on the same tape are improbable. So that means at least two tapes are missing.
Other songs recorded at Sun:
"How do you think I feel?" was at the very least attempted at Sun. A tape exists of what is believed to be a rehearsal with Scotty's guitar quite loud and drums fairly quiet with Elvis off-mike.
This song was later recorded at RCA.
"Uncle Penn" was supposedly recorded during the September '54 session. One take is listed on a session sheet from that recording but since it was only a single take, it may have been recorded over.
"Oakie Boogie" One take from the December '54 session. Again, probably recorded over since only one take was recorded and may have been deemed unsatisfactory.
"Tennessee Saturday Night" Two takes during the July '54 Session. Documented on Session sheets and was slated for release on "Elvis for Everyone!" in 1965. No movement since. Tape is assumed lost.
"Give me more, more, more of your Kisses" shows up on the November '55 session sheets in name only. No takes noted. May have been attempted but not actually recorded.
If you ask me, I don't think Elvis recorded "Tiger Man" at Sun. I honestly think he's just mis-remembering or blurring two memories. I think he meant to say "Mystery Train" because even during the '68 Comeback Special; he does a song that starts out as "Mystery Train, blends into Tiger Man then back into Mystery Train".
Wow! That’s a lot of great information, thanks so much for sharing it! Your theory on Tiger Man makes sense. I saw that he spoke about it being “his second recording” but we have the recordings of his first and second ever. So fun to dig through it all and try to connect as many dots as we can! ⚡️
@That_AMC_Guy What you say about him mixing up Tiger Man and Mystery Train could well be the truth.
Everything happened so fast to him after Sun that I'm sure it was hard for him to remember everything clearly.Elvis was known to be a little hazy on details.
The tape you mentioned was found in Steve Scholes desk Drawer after he retired...it contained the Harbour Lights recording released later on A Legendary Performer LP.
Then later again the tape containing When it Rains it Really Pours from his final Sun Session turned up in a mislabelled box in the RCA vault whilst they were searching for something else.
That recording was issued on another Legendary Perfomer LP.
Interestingly it was during that session that Sam received the phone call telling him the deal with RCA had been completed and Sam was forced to shut the session down...amazing stuff huh?
@@Beyond_Graceland It's all part of the fun of being an Elvis fan
@@Elvisultimatefanchannel Right on! Thank you for that. I couldn't remember the name Steve Scholes to save my life.
I also seem to recall a "lost" Elvis movie song from the early 60's being found within the last 10-15 years. Same story: they went into the RCA vaults, started pulling tapes and found a session tape to a movie song they thought was lost. Does that ring a bell? Do you know what song it was?
@@That_AMC_Guy Are you thinking of "I'm A Roustabout" from the 2nd to None Album? Found on Acetate I believe
As far as the recording of Uncle Penn goes, I seem to recall a write up in the New Musical Express in the 1960s that this record had been found and was to be released shortly. A few weeks later, a new statement appeared that said "the production standard was not good enough" and therefore would not be released. If this is true, surely someone must have listened to it to come to this conclusion. Perhaps the NME could help on this one?
@@denissheer9478 sure would be great to hear an unreleased Elvis song these days! Thanks for watching, friend! 🩵⚡️
Dutch Elvis fan Hans Langbroek did hear a part of this song during a phonecall, and is probably the only person who did hear this recording of Uncle Penn. Pyramid records did want to release this in 1967, and did put an add in NME. Maybe it was below standards, or maybe RCA did forbid the release?
Interestingly, Fats Domino recorded "Careless Love" in 1950. What's a little odd is on the photo for "Careless Love," it says "Blueberry Hill" but below says "Careless Love" & that is what he sang. Anything else with the words Careless Love that I've seen in regards to Elvis relates only to a book with that title written by Peter Guralnick. But who knows -- so much involved to unravel when it comes to this man.
@@carolhayar3037 oh wow! Thanks for sharing that info! You know, I thought about the Guralnick book title as well and figured he found something during his research that would connect the dots to a recording of it. But I couldn’t find anything. Yes, always something new when you least expect it!
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I know My Happiness/That's When Your Heartaches Begin was recorded straight to acetate (not on reel-to-reel tape), so I would assume if there's more self-funded recordings, that was probably also the case. So unless Sam dubbed a copy for himself, he may have never had a copy. Maybe there's a acetate or two out there of lost recordings that will show up someday.
@@dolourvideos wow! That was bold to record straight to acetate.
Sam Phillips did keep some elvis masters in his vault .he said so himself as did both of his kids knox and jerry .the songs as far i know are being stored in a vault is it at the newer sam c phillips recording studios or else where .who knows .
@@terryendsley6079 ohhh that is interesting!
Mom birthday song my happiness 1953 sun records
I have seen so many documentaries that state that Elvis recorded My Happiness for his mum's birthday and that's simply not true. If you check the Spa Guy Channel Billy Stallings he is an Elvis historian and he checked all the facts.
Elvis Presley First Record My Happiness What Happened To It Spa Guy It's amazing that even Sun Records keep changing their story so many times.
@@Allen-vl7zq I do agree with you. Elvis did give the acetate record of That's Where Your Heartaches Begin to a male friend called Ed Leek its documented by the Elvis Historian The Spa Guy under the title Elvis Presley First Record My Happiness What Happened To It ? I'm certain that Elvis' mother would have never parted with it.
No way would Elvis or his mother have thrown away that acetate(s).
I would imagine all of Elvis’ and Gladys’ things are somewhere on Graceland property. Has anyone specifically looked for those records?
@@davedee4382 you could be right. 🩵⚡️
Hi Emily, your channel just popped up so I watched this video. I've been an Elvis fan since the late 1960's when I was a kid and I'm currently replacing everything recording I have and more as MP3's. I've still got all my vynals but since YT came into play, I've found a lot more recordings than I ever knew existed and I love the recording sessions. If I can help, give me a shout.
@@anthonyjames.5170 that’s awesome! Thanks for watching, friend! 🩵⚡️
Just stumbled across your channel and really enjoyed it so just subscribed.
I think Sam was a real duck and diver,so l wouldn't put anything past him.
Luv the show,Mark from London England.
Hey, Mark! Thanks for checking out the video and for the support! Haha yep, Sam was a wildcard but my biggest inspiration to get into audio engineering. ⚡
I want to add that, Elvis references one of these acetates in an early 1956 interview, and there is a really cool Magazine put out in 1956, all about Elvis, and the story of the acetate come up . and one more theory. Remember when Elvis said in 1969, "I came in to record a song, and guy put the record out"....well, elvis didn't have a good memory, but what if that third acetate is one of Elvis actually singing, "That's all right" with just him and his guitar. Obviously Sam didn't "put out" that acoustic version, (if one existed), but I don't discount anything as anything is possible. And one more thing...RCA has always been very secretive about Elvis' Sun era.....One more title, "tennessee Saturday night" which was a popular song at the time, and has been rumored to be on one of the Sun tapes, could be another one they are holding back. (Why has my intial post been deleted twice in one day?)
For years "Casual love (affair)" has been rumoured to be on the 2nd private acetate. However, since Elvis recorded covers for his private acetates, why can no song of that title by any artist be found recorded and released prior to January 4, 1954?
As for other titles mention being performed live or on radio and recorded, a bunch of tapes featuring these songs were badly damaged and could not be used anymore.
According to rumours Gary Pepper taped all of Elvis' performances on the "Louisiana Hayride" but destroyed the tapes when Elvis passed away. If true a real pity.
It is known Elvis recorded at home or at the home of a friend, like Eddie Fadall. Someone tricked Eddie Fadall into loaning out his tape and it appeared on the bootleg LP "Forever young, forever beautiful".
I enjoyed your take on this but i honestly think we have the two recordings he did thankfully presearved on acetate which is amazing the june recording was when Sam got him to try out without you you not happy with that he probably erased the tape then he gets him back in july for an audition the tracks on the acetates speak for themelves he only paid for two the other titles are just mistakes in time thats my view we should be very gratefull those two acetates survived all this that said i enjoyed your take on this time period it has long fascinated me
@@robertfrench9353 so you think the two other songs were erased. That’s a good theory!
@@Beyond_Graceland No what i meant was titles were probably mistaken over the years its been 70 years now but yes Sam did erase stuff he didnt like he was on a tight budget he would reuse tape hense we dont have many sun outtakes
Bless him he did have the good senseto record the million dollar quartet pure joy a magic moment in time
@@robertfrench9353 oh I see. Although it is interesting that Sun Studios has “Casual Love Affair” listed as a recorded song on their website.
What didnt mention a track that was recorded and lost satisfied its only a minute something long when RCA got the tapes from sun 15 of them some got lost along the way you might want to reasearch that all the best Robrt
Elvis also recorded I Got a Woman, Uncle Pen and Tennessee Saturday Night at Sun. None have ever been found. These were NOT self-funded recordings.
@@mikec6822 very true the Sun era is totally fascinating what was pure joy when live recordings started to emerge seemingly he did rock around the clock but that has never turned up and what about fool fool fool recorded at a radio station pure joy
I don't know, could some of Elvis's early recordings that are lost to time could they have been because of that careless 2008 fire from Sony and other companies that lost a lot of their archives their production tapes and early pressings stampers in a fire almost 17 years ago, I don't remember when that happened because I wasn't aware of it back then but probably less than 10 years ago I learned about it.
But the people who were keeping the archives they were pretty careless and they weren't in fully climate-controlled areas where the tape and the film reels when it disintegrates plus a lot of the more movie related things were that early type of film that can combust easily.
From one fan to another, I love your insight and knowledge! Please tell me you are on other social media? Love what you are doing and I learned a lot listening to this.
@@MrMatthewScarborough hey thanks for watching, friend! I have thought about carrying this over to other socials like Instagram or even TikTok. I’ll look into it and see what kind of Elvis content would work best for it! 🩵⚡️
Would think that if Elvis paid for the January, 1954 recording session himself, he would have been given an acetate of the recordings. Think the song titles, "Casual Love Affair" and "Careless Love" are good song titles. Don't know if Sun/Sam Phillips also made or kept acetate recordings of people who paid for their own recording sessions. Even if he did, there's a good chance at some point the tapes of the recordings were recorded over, because recording tape was expensive. If an acetate or acetates of the two songs exists, hopefully it can be found either at Sun or at Graceland. Although, a number of years ago, a high school friend of Elvis's came forward with an acetate that Elvis had made at Sun, which he gave to his friend, and never asked for it back. Forget which song or songs were on this acetate. The way tapes are labeled (Often inaccurately or misleadingly), unknown songs are discovered occasionally. Several years ago, an alternate version of one of Elvis's early '60s movies songs was discovered on a tape owned by RCA or the movie studio that produced the movie. So there's always hope of finding something new!
The acetates were recorded directly on wax, hence the term acetate recording. Marion Keisker did record however the latter part of my Happiness also on tape, since she heard something in his voice, and wanted to show it to Sam Phillips who was not around at the self-financed session on July 18, 1953.
You can find My "Happiness" and "Thats When Your Heartaches Begin" are right here on youtube and have been available for many years.
The 1953 versions.
How about the following mystery Sun titles of Elvis? Tiger man. ( Elvis mentioned it himself in the early 70's as his second Sun recording. It never did show up tho. Satisfied, the gospel song. There is an empty tapebox with this song depicted in the booklet of A legendary Performer volume 2 in 1976. I did happen to meet Sam in 2001 and asked him about this song. He said I'm sorry I don't recall And let's not forget Harbor lights wich was released in 1976. Sam Phillips handed this tape over in 1955, but it was found back in the drawer of Steve Sholes his desk after he died in 1968. In 1967 Pyramid records announced the release of Elvis his uncle Penn recorded at the Louisiana Hayride. It was withdrawn at the last moment. It was stated by Dutch expert hans langbroek, that he heard a short fragment of the song over the phone, and said it was indeed Elvis. Rock around the clock acetate is in a private collection, but in very poor condition.
How about the rumour that Elvis was on television allready in 1955 in a show hosted by Roy Orbinson?
Sam Phillips is known for not keeping a file of recordings. He could indeed kept the recording of Casual Love Affair himself, or it could be in private hands, or maybe it was also in the drawer of the desk of Steve Sholes. What strikes me the most is that we still to this day never heard this song. There is also a possibility that the tape was indeed handed over to RCA in 1955, but got destroyed by the vault clean out in 1959 by RCA where thousands of tapes were destroyed to save storage space, and that Casual Love affair was destroyed with it. Let's not forget that there is not an original mastertape anymore of That's allright. They did use a needledrop of an original Sun single in mint condition for the Boy From Tupelo set. On the RCA album where the song was published we here the RCA reverb version.
Only time will tell if they ever find more lost Sun recordings, but we also need to be aware of the fact that people can also create new songs with AI technology, pretending it is Elvis. (Yes it is possible with this advanced technology.
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@@freddysnip6257 all great insights, friend! It’s so cool there are so many things left to find in the Elvis world. Yes, unfortunately thousands of master prints and recordings have been lost damaged or destroyed (and not just Elvis material) over the years. Due to lack of care or knowledge. It’s a shame. But, it is nice to see a community of Elvis fans that take this stuff seriously and want to preserve what is available and discover what may have been lost if possible. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts and insights with us!🩵⚡️
@@Beyond_Graceland Thank you for replying, I appreciate it. Yes is true, a lot was lost, destroyed, retrieved from trash, stolen, or even lost in a fire, when thousands of masters were lost of several artists on different labels.
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Hey Emily This is the exact kind of content I'm interested in and have been searching for! Please continue making these kinds of videos!
On the matter, it's such a shame that we don't have all these Sun recordings! So many takes are lost and maybe even these songs! I hope we'll get to hear them someday!
@@BloxyTiger. I’m so glad you’re enjoying the videos! This is something I’ve wanted to do for a very long time now and so excited to finally be able to. Thanks for the support, friend! ⚡️
Elvis, during later August 1970 Vegas show monologues (audience recorded) mentioned several times having recorded Tiger Man at Sun studio, as one of the first songs he ever recorded. He eventually recorded it as a loose funky jam in the studio much later in 1975. But as far as the early 50’s version: he said “but not to many got to hear it”. It was not a joke, because he repeated it in a serious manner during several shows, and he was consistent about it. It would make no sense to just make that up as a joke. The recording, if it exists, then surviving until today, is a very different matter altogether. But it isn’t impossible. Rufus Thomas’ version was great as well as all of Elvis’ live versions. How great would Elvis’ initial version would have been ?
If he did record it at Sun I bet it sounded so cool! I love those the most. “Mystery Train” maybe my favorite.
@@Beyond_Graceland mine as well ! :-) I can almost imagine how it would (could) have sounded with that echo effect and hypnotic rhythm, would for sure have been so cool… 70 years later, these Elvis at Sun recordings still sound out-of-this-world magical. Even the ballads, like “Blue Moon”. Haunting, mysterious.
@@G.M.1944 yep, so special!
I'm a DJ on a "50s" music show in Brookings Or. It's my understanding that the copy of That's aright . that Dewy plaid was an acetate rough recording of the song, not the same as the released. If that is true do you know where I could hear the original. I read somewhere that it might in England and it's the most valuable record in the world
@@raygary7771 I believe you’re right about it just being an acetate. He would have just cut that and brought to Dewey before sending it off to master. That’s a great question on where that original acetate of “That’s Alright, Mama”. I could be wrong but it might be at Graceland now?
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Write to Riley, maybe she can have them issued.....would'nt that be great
(Casual love affair) was re-titled ( one-sided love affair)
Well said….
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Emily I always heard that uncle pen was recorded, you think that was one of the recordings that Mr Phillips kept or was Lost.
I have seen this song mentioned a few times. However, I haven't been able to find anything concrete about it. Just in fan forums and discussions. Worth a deeper look though!
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And why does Paaid show up in two spots of each receipt>>???
Interesting idea to find unreleased Elvis private recordings....I found an album by Eddie Clendening and the Blue Ribbon Boys - Shake Rattle and Blue Moon on youtube, which includes 'Casual Love Affair'. The group sound like an Elvis influenced (very) as most of the album songs were recorded by Elvis.
@@slygo98 wow! That’s awesome! At least we now know there IS a song called “Casual Love Affair”! Thanks for the info, friend! 🩵⚡️
Interesting video. I see the two following issues with the receipts: 1. Why is there not a copy of the My Happiness session receipt which would allow us to compare the other two receipts? If any of the three receipts survived in the Memphis Recording Studios archives, wouldn't it have been the one supporting the most famous recording story which Marion personally told so many times? The lack of this receipt does not prove the other two are fake, but its absence is conspicuous. 2. Why are there two different dates on both receipts? For instance, the Jan 4th receipt is dated Jan 6th. Elvis did record a second record on Jan 4th, but both the first time with My Happiness and on Jan 4th, Elvis walked out of Memphis Recording Studio with an acetate in his hands. Why would the receipt have been typed up two days later and marked "paid"? It is not as if the studio recorded the song, then transferred it to acetate for the customer to pick up two days later. The recording was directly to acetate and the customer, who paid in advance of the recording session, left the studio with the finished product, no later visits required. If I remember correctly, several years ago, the Spa Guy put out multiple videos tracking these acetates down, so you might visit his TH-cam page. My recollection is Elvis borrowed the money for the Jan 4th session from a co-worker (this was prior to Crown Electric) and left the acetate with this friend, who had a record player at his home where they traveled to listen to the record after the session and Elvis was dissatisfied with how he sounded, so he never re-collected the acetate from this friend. I believe this story was also related in a book by Bill Burk, which I think was titled The Memphis Years, but I cannot remember for certain. Supporting this story is the fact Elvis, Gladys, and Vernon did not own a record player at their home at Alabama Ave, so the first time Elvis brought home a copy of "That's Alright", he borrowed the record player of the Jewish family who lived upstairs. The mother of the family told Elvis he could borrow the player all summer as they were leaving for vacation. She also is the person who bought Elvis his first set of cuff links, which she gave him as a high school graduation present in June 1953. This family also owned the phone which took the call from Dewey Phillips the night he spun That's Alright over and over and interviewed Elvis on air because the Presley's did not own a phone (nor did they own a phone at their next house where Vernon walked into the neighbor's house so many times to use their phone, the neighbor put a lock on the screen door).
@@manlystranger4973 awesome stuff here! I wish there was a way to authenticate the receipts. As for the different dates, this could actually be because the recording would need to be “cut” or transferred to an acetate record. I did read that once Sam got his tape machine (1951) that he wouldn’t record straight to acetate. Which would be much better for him since you can’t re-record on acetate like you can tape. So one date would be the recording day and the second when the artist picked up the cut acetate.
I must say, some of the spa guy's stories are interesting but some have been proven to be innaccurate. Also, the story about the classmate who held on to the record for decades has many holes in it. I think the two dates do indicate that one day was the day he recorded the songs, and the other was the day he walked out with the record. I don't think there is any other way to explain that one. If one was going to fake these reciepts, they wouldn't put two dates. Also, some one also made the comment that is one is going to make a fake reciept why choose a date that hasn't been tied to specific Elvis recording titles.
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@@greggosnell3200 thanks so much, friend! 🩵⚡️
There could be some as nobody really knows for sure. And not all. Elvis s recordings werent .found. To date.
Fascinating! Good stuff. I'm sub'd. I'll be back! TCB, baby!
What happened to the song that was reported to have been recorded by Elvis called Uncle Penn.
There are more too. Rag Mop and Tiger Man
@@Elvisultimatefanchannel Tiger Man, wow that would be something to hear him do from back then!
@@Beyond_Graceland Elvis on stage August 1970 Las Vegas "Here's the 2nd song I ever recorded Ladies and Gentleman" He then launched in to Tiger Man
@Elvisultimatefanchannel that’s so interesting.
@ImpossibleDream67 I think you might need to re read my post again.
What I said was there is a strong belief that Elvis recorded Tiger Man at Sun in the 1950's but the tape was either lost or erased.Yes I know he sang it later in his career..beginning at the NBC TV Special and continued on in his live performances.
Elvis made a comment in 1970 from the stage of the international hotel that Tiger Man was the 2nd song he ever recorded.
As for Rag Mop neither of us can say categorically wether he recorded it or not as it is only rumoured.
Please do not call me silly
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@ImpossibleDream67 Stop twisting everything I say. I said its a rumor he may have sang Rag Mop, You and I will never know for sure. I will no longer reply to any of your replies as you are too argumentative and not in the spirit of this channel
The 2 receipts scream carbon paper copy (before copy machines )
Ooops forgot to show where to find Casual Love Affair :This is where you can find Casual Love Affair by Eddie Clendening & the blue ribbon boys & it DOES sound like a song Elvis would sing. th-cam.com/video/HTUTuL-WekE/w-d-xo.html
Regarding the receipts... First, who saved them? His Mother? Dad? If ssso why? Tax purposes? Just because there waass no way to take. a picture due to the lack of celphone technology? Seriously, how about those non torn holes at the top of receipt on the right. Which, by the way,, is how you should vote this faall ... to the RIGHT! .. to the RIGHT!... to the RIGHT!... If this thing originaated on a 2-ring binder, wouldn't the SSecretary just tear it away?
The one on the left shows a torn spot aaaat the top but where's the holes on each sside?
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let it be
I have a copies of 'My happiness', That's when your heartaches begin' and "I'll Never Stand In Your Way".
Sam was a con man and a obvious liar, often telling stories to put himself in a good light.
E. G new car for Carl perkins for being the first sun artist to sell a million copies, when Carl got his royalty check there was a deduction for the car, he paid for it himself, and later sued Sam for unpaid royalties.
So it's highly likely Sam kept hold of some of Elvis's sun recordings.
Probably thinking that if he fell on hard times he could get a 3rd party label to release them claiming they were private recordings etc.
But that never happened so it's likely they've been lost to time or are sitting in a wooden crate in a storeroom, and nobody knows.
@@adrinathegreat3095 a Carl fan, alright! Unfortunately I have heard that about the car. You read Carl’s book?? I really love reading that one. I’m originally from Jackson, TN, so I grew up on Carl! Thanks for watching, friend! 🩵⚡️
Love, please keep in mind that at this point, everyone who was directly involved with this early situation is dead.
2 of the recordings are on the 1950’s box set.