+Ze Captain I was actually following this project way back in 2005 when it was all still just concept art and dreams. It's amazing to see it actually happening. But yeah, they've been very much under the radar. Now that they've launched on Steam, it's going to get crazy for them.
+Ailobyte All EA had to do was steal the best maps and features from the first 2 Battlefront games and it would be an amazing game with a minimum amount of work for their dev team. Once again we are shocked about how EA will go out of their way to ruin any game franchise they touch.
+Frank van Veen They could have made cod like elements just like BF4 has TDM/Domination maps. SWBF looks like they went full CoD. You never go full CoD.
I remember this as a Homeworld 2 mod. That's some dedication. This game is VERY impressive in it's scope and execution. This game would be crazy if a publisher threw real money at it.
I hope not. Many publishers ruin games. EA ruined battlefield and are going to ruin Battlefront. Activision ruined CoD and Destiny. Microsoft have near ruined Halo, they also rushed Freelancer out (Yes, the game that could have been Star Citizen but over a decade ago!)
FireHawk Gaming Yeah, it's annoying to see those publishers ruin all these big name games indeed. But it should be expected when publishers / developers like EA and Ubisoft keep insisting the casual gamer is their target audience and is a 'dumb gamer' that needs hand-holding and spoon-feeding throughout games. I so disagree with their mindset. They should focus on gameplay and making games challenging again instead. Star Wars Battlefront definitely will be the next big title that's being ruined by this, assuming the on-rails gameplay plays a big role.
Nice to see a modern game in the same vein as the old Star Wars Battlefront games, which had levels that mixed space combat with troop gameplay. I originally overlooked this but just picked it up based on your video. Cheers, Scott :)
all these people saying how have no not seen this before meanwhile i am sitting here thinking WELL ITS ABOUT BLOODY TIME i been following this for 7 FUCKING YEARS
+ozis ponas Remember that trailer where the fleet jumps in and attacks the station. BF2 and counterstrike was the game to play. That is how long it has been.
"Like Planetside2, in that you have these set piece missions you have to put together" Respectfully, Planetside doesn't fit into this category. Planetside 2 is a massive sandbox where you fight over continents, without loading screens and with persistence. If anything, the downside to Planetside 2 is that it's SO open ended, it's so sandboxy that many people find it difficult when starting out to figure out just exactly they have to do. It's an awesome game, and I love your videos, just felt like it should be politely pointed out. Battlefield - session shooter and very restricted. Planetside 2 huge open-ended gameplay without any win conditions or gameplay restrictions. Cheers :)
I just love this. Exactly what i predicted a year ago, that (back then we had seen jack shit of what Star Citizen really could become) eventually some talented lower budget smaller dev teams would pick up the genre and accomplish what Star Citizen claimed to be able to accomplish, long before Chris Roberts even gets it into Beta. And here we are in 2015, first Pulsar: Lost Colony, and now this, Angels Fall First. We now have at least TWO seperate independent games developed by relatively tiny studios on a tiny budget, which already have accomplished the very core gameplay systems, mechanics and technicalities that Star Citizen talked the talk about, but failed to walk the walk. Granted, after the live multicrew SC demo i was very impressed and am now hopeful for Star Citizen having a bright future. BUT, my point is still the same. Here we have tiny indie studios who ALREADY managed to put together the very "revolutionary" multicrew walk in the ship, man a station, get out and fight with guns, go to space stations or planets, and board a fighter and join the space battle, gameplay. Way way before Star Citizen even is close to having it in Alpha. You gotta admit, it shows that the TOOLS and the TALENT is what matters in games development, not monetary assets. Naturally, Star Citizen will have incredible detail and mesh / texture / art quality, thats where MUCH of the millions of dollars goes into. But it is still funny and a bit sad that small indie devs already beat them to the punch, in terms of the core gameplay. Now imagine if a AAA developer does this, if they realize that, hey, there's a lot of money to be made in this genre. Imagine if EA or Ubisoft or Square Enix (in reference to their many anime space shooters etc) revealed a fully budgeted 100-200 man dev team game based around space combat in capital ships, multicrew, fps, same stuff as Star Citizen, Pulsar and this game AFF. I would not be surprised if a AAA game with the exact same core gameplay as Star Citizen comes out, fully polished and relatively bug free, before Star Citizen's PU v1.0 It would be great for us as gamers, but really bad for SC. They gotta step it up, there's no resting time to be had in this industry, you constantly have hundreds of other extremely talented dev studios out there, looking to make a buck AND looking to make high quality good games. They aint just gonna chill out and wait for Star Citizen to do it, they'll try to do it themselves. God dammit, its good to be a space sim fan. I predict we may see many sleeper hits before SC is released. As i said, great news for us as gamers, but bad news for SC, as it may be overtaken by more efficent, polished and fast releases. WOW that was a long essay. LOL, sorry Scott. But i hope it at least made some basic interesting reading for someone out there, if anyone agrees with my logic about this.
+Baleur i'm not sure are you trolling or just uber naive? To compare fidelity of this thing and SC is just laughable to say the least. The only point i kinda agree is that it is good to be sci-fi genre fan again - after all those long years)) BTW, you obviously do not link the rise of the genre with SC, right? Thinking that happened all by itself?
+Baleur I agree that small teams like this can accomplish really amazing things compared to big budget projects (just look at Limit Theory!) but Angels Fall First is nothing like the scope of Star Citizen and it has been in development for over 7 years as well so they really aren't comparable. Better to compare Star Citizen with No Man's Sky (a small team with fairly small budget) or to Limit Theory (a one-man project) since they are all trying to make very similar games :)
+Baleur AFAIK the Shard Collective team who participated in the next great starship for Star Citizen were also the main people who worked on this AFF game.. Its just unfortunate they only went 2nd on that contest..
For those that remember Angels Fall First when it was still a concept art back from the days of Homeworld modding... this certainly has come a LOOONNNGGGG way...
Wow, thank you for reviewing this! I watch your vids regularly did not expect to see you review a game I helped a little bit with! Thanks! A cool surprise.
That looks pretty awesome! Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I LOVE the briefing room. It does look pretty glitchy overall but I'm keeping an eye on this one. :)
+Jeffery Liggett The AFF was born on HW2 and encompasses a variety of projects, which included a submission to the 2009 Make Something Unreal contest (3rd place finish). The latter of which evolved in to the title released for Early Access on Thursday.
For those worrying about it being Early Access: 90% of the game in terms of gameplay is done. It just needs some serious polish and it's gonna be great.
***** What have his games contributed? As far as I know all of his games have very negative reviews. I have watched a few gameplay videos and they were completely broken and basically unplayable. He is definitely completely jealous of Star Citizen's success.
Oh wow. I was following this project all the way back in 2005 when it was all still just concept art and dreams. Amazing to see they've come so far and really made it happen. Wish them the best of luck.
+Scott Manley I have a very high tolerance for rubber banding. Because of my sister, who uses an inordinate amount of bandwidth. So how do you get this game?
Reminds me of the old source mod "Eternal Silence". They did the ship to shooter combat pretty well on the Source engine but development for it died years ago and people stopped playing it. I'm glad to see more games like this because this is something I have wanted since I played the space battles in Battlefront II!
There is definitely something happening in a vacuum. Exactly what is still being debated. Could be vacuum energy, could be dark energy, could be the cosmological constant. (They're all pretty similar) In addition to those, you might want to read up on these 2: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle
+Firefox is red, Explorer is blue. Google+ sucks and Chrome does too. Nah, I think the ships whole purpose is to clean the vacuum of space. So it is literally a vacuum cleaner.
This is exactly what i want from a Sci-Fi shooter. You and your team set off in a huge ship, try to take out other ships, things get messy, run up to a smaller fighter ship and escape at the last minute and hopefully board another bigger ship and have an awesome on-foot firefight.
Wow, I remember playing this when it was newly released as a mod for UT3 many, many years ago. There was no AI though and it was hard to find enough players. But it was great! Thanks for showing me its in Early Access Scott! It was a long forgotten treasure :)
I played this game years ago when they had their own website and it was a small group of friends coding this. Its always been a very polished effort, really glad they didn't give up on this game..
This game started off as a mod, two mods, actually, and now it's going to become a full-fledged game. I can see the desire for this to be an epic title foaming at the mouths of the developers, who've probably treated this universe and story as their love-child since the days leading up to their mod's creations. I've no doubt that when this game is polished, it will command awe from all who see it. So yeah, I'm actually happy with my purchase truth-be-told~
I remember way back in the day they were making mods for HW2 and Nexus: The Jupiter incident for angels fall first, I used to post on their forums and played the homeworld mod quite a bit. They had some really good worldbuilding that reminded me a lot of battletech.
the new battlefront coming out has no campaign, no clone wars era, no galactic conquest. no space battles, and the AT-AT's are on rails....basically its battlefield 4 style pick a server and be forced to play whatever mode and map is on at the time. it's been claimed they're gonna add some of these things back in but why would you want such a gutted title for full 60 dollar price with no real content just to pay more later for dlc and expansions that add in what should have been there in the first place. this is EA's micro-transaction engine at work lol
Johnny Bobby i bet that too. when disney bought star wars they shut down the game studios and stopped several long anticipated video games in there tracks including battlefront, who knows how different it is now to what it was before the stop.
***** yup no clone wars, came from the devs own mouths. all i am wondering is if they have created this content now anyways just because of the fans outcry about how gutted the game is gonna be. like theres nearly no real content when its released, there has been talk of stuff being added in later BUT they have not said WHAT will be added and IF it will be free and HOW LONG until it is added. we are given a MASSIVE lack of details and just told hey your game is very stripped and empty but it looks amazing though *wink*......
The free tech demo version of this has been out for years, i remember playing a while ago, and then i forgot about it and assumed the devs did too, really glad to see that they have still been working on the game. Looked pretty reasonable back then, looks pretty good now
I use to play the crap out of the Unreal Tournament 3 mod version of this. A few maps had choke point issues, but overall it was really fun. I've high hopes for this! Edit: Just noticed the ships still carry the names of some of us players back in the mod days. Oh definitively jumping on, grabbing my Deke, and repelling all boarders off my precious Swift! She a heavy girl, but packs a wallop! :)
I can just imagine how everyone just team works to hell together to win or like these heroes of both teams that change the course of battles. The scale is just amazing.
This is great! And they have been doing this since 2007 and it still is "early access". They also use Unreal Engine and yet it´s not very easy to do this kind of project. Still, looks rad! Thanks for showing us!
I can imagine the huge badass space fights this is going to create once online mode is stable. But one really interesting thing I love is the fact star fighters actually launch out of your ship!
I think there's room for a game like this in the market. Big epic massive set-piece gameplay. Not everything needs to be an MMO, and not everything needs to be some sort of open sandbox! This doesn't look too dissimilar to some of the Unreal Tournament game types (which is perhaps not that surprising, being based on UT), which I have a lot of fond memories of. What I really like is the multi-discipline stuff, combined arms and strategic gameplay all in one is pretty cool. And massively complex!
That is a pure Scot if I ever saw one - immolated, with no ammo in sight, and he still manages to massacre the poor soul that happens to appear in his way.
this looks AMAZING! get this thing some professional funding, Also an idea for great mechanic,you giving voice commands for reports and actions for when your the commander of a capital ship. Shields/ weapon status, main gun firing, npcs shouting status reports at you, It would be awesome!
This actually looks really good. I do really want a game like this, where you can jump into any part of a large battle. Starfighters, capital ships, turrets, dropships, infantry, everything. If only Mass Effect would make a game with that in mind. I'd never see the light of day again.
Lol I love how you thought your team mate at the end was shooting the console xD I've made the same mistake a few times as well, but generally a sustained green laser means it's a good thing if he's on your side :)
It's about time someone relatively youtube-famous covered this game. For those of you that are afraid to buy it because of relatively low playercounts; just get it. You can contribute to that never being a problem, and to further allay that hesitation it has very competent bots, who actually carry out their objectives and use almost all the equipment in the game. You're getting many times the features of Battlefront for 20% of the price - no tacked-on DLC or season passes or pre-order bonuses or whatever garbage the AAA industry butchers games with these days. The full thing. Ten quid.
Scott missed out on the Newtonian physics you can use for space flight by hitting MMB, it becomes more like flying a fighter all your favorite Sci Fi books as opposed to flying a space air-plane
This game is looking friggen great... the concept is anyway. I love that the debre fields are actually there. Other games there's all that stuff but it just feels like you don't have to worry about it. In this you do. Hopefully the game is a lot better when complete and not a bust.
That was UT2004 Assault Game Mode, not a mod, it came with a game. Though assault wasn't about space always, but few missions were mostly based in space.
Rough edges or not, this game was the first I've seen that allowed you to feel like you are in a real moving spaceship in a battle like that. So I thought it was really cool designs and art. I only tried it a long time ago when it was a demo using UDK. I remember the ground combat being harder compared to most FPS. I have no idea where they've taken it since then but if they turn it into an MMO-like type of thing where each planet is map and you can transition between these via gates (maybe filling spaces with procedural generated environments) , build some pseudo-persistent overlay that gives more meaningful context to battles.. well then I think it would overtake stuff like DUST514 or Planetside2.
That full sized capital-ship, is a FULL SIZED LEAF-BLOWER!! Although it has the swiftness of a glacier, but its understandable when you try to cycle air in vacuum :D
i played the demo ages ago and was obsessed with it but couldent find a full game till i had a look again today yeahhhhhh im so happy i can play it again
Guys, let's be nice. It was only a little topical joke.. no-one should have to justify why we like a game - even a Derek game. Scott makes brilliant and balanced videos and I kind of feel bad for starting this argument which is now getting quite aggressive and clogging up his comments. Sorry Scott. My bad.
I'm proud to have supported this game by buying early access. But the thing is, that's all that you're doing by buying this. It's not finished and it has very serious problems. The potential however is enormous. If you're looking for ground based sci-fi team oriented combat without any glitches or performance issues, just play Planet Side, though I am rooting for this game.
I'd just like to say that I played this way back in a pre-alpha phase whilst it was still much more a mod than standalone. The guys developing it are doing so on a "zero budget" witch basically means their back pockets. It was actually not terrible back then and looks just that much better now.
This does remind me a lot of the Battlefield series. The Battlefield series started out as featuring infantry combat, land vehicle combat, naval combat and air combat. Naval combat was quickly cut out and players tended to prefer maps with as much close quarter action as possible. Later Battlefield series put a higher emphasis on the close quarter action, at the cost of making the game feel less like an actual war. If this game is to avoid a similar fate, then ship to ship combat has to be awesome. The developers need to think carefully about how things will actually play out and not too much on what sounds awesome.
Scott, you could have shown people the Newtonian-like flight model. Disengage the 'jetfighters in space' and start going all over the place, orbiting targets and other nifty hijinks. I'm sure it's one of the draws of this game.
Not sure if it's been said before, but the space levels seem to have a lot more server lag in the current version. That's why people prefer the ground levels.
This looks like exactly what I wanted from Star Wars Battlefront space missions. Alas, we have been given something that looks like a port of a free iPad space shooter.
Wow! So many games out there needs to have THIS mechanic! I already see a W40k mod for this! Super awesome! I missed this concept since Dust 514 failed to came out on PC... Hope my friends will like this one too.
This game looks INSANE
HOW HAVE I NEVER HEARD OF THIS
+Westonsammy Well, for one it was released less than a week ago.
+Ze Captain It's been known to be in development since a good while, so Westonsammy could've heard of it previously.
+Ze Captain
I was actually following this project way back in 2005 when it was all still just concept art and dreams. It's amazing to see it actually happening. But yeah, they've been very much under the radar. Now that they've launched on Steam, it's going to get crazy for them.
+Westonsammy Not quite as insane as Star Citizen. Have you at least heard of that?
GQwerty07 You mean the tech demo that'll be released in 2018? If it ever gets released, that is.
This looks likes a better Battlefront game than the one that EA is putting out
+Ailobyte Well, now we need Star Wars mod for this standalone mod.
+Ailobyte All EA had to do was steal the best maps and features from the first 2 Battlefront games and it would be an amazing game with a minimum amount of work for their dev team. Once again we are shocked about how EA will go out of their way to ruin any game franchise they touch.
+befru Casuals prefer a cod like game.
+Frank van Veen They could have made cod like elements just like BF4 has TDM/Domination maps. SWBF looks like they went full CoD. You never go full CoD.
I agree that they should, but the game will sell good enough too not spend time adding complex gameplay elements that make games awesome.
I remember this as a Homeworld 2 mod. That's some dedication.
This game is VERY impressive in it's scope and execution. This game would be crazy if a publisher threw real money at it.
+Anime Summit Somehow I doubt that's ever going to happen though.
I hope not. Many publishers ruin games. EA ruined battlefield and are going to ruin Battlefront. Activision ruined CoD and Destiny. Microsoft have near ruined Halo, they also rushed Freelancer out (Yes, the game that could have been Star Citizen but over a decade ago!)
FireHawk Gaming Yeah, it's annoying to see those publishers ruin all these big name games indeed. But it should be expected when publishers / developers like EA and Ubisoft keep insisting the casual gamer is their target audience and is a 'dumb gamer' that needs hand-holding and spoon-feeding throughout games. I so disagree with their mindset. They should focus on gameplay and making games challenging again instead. Star Wars Battlefront definitely will be the next big title that's being ruined by this, assuming the on-rails gameplay plays a big role.
+Anime Summit same here, lost track of it on mobdb a while back... how many engine switches have they made now?
+Anime Summit Not quite as impressive as the scope and execution of Star Citizen, and that game doesn't even need some publisher's money.
Nice to see a modern game in the same vein as the old Star Wars Battlefront games, which had levels that mixed space combat with troop gameplay. I originally overlooked this but just picked it up based on your video. Cheers, Scott :)
all these people saying how have no not seen this before
meanwhile i am sitting here thinking
WELL ITS ABOUT BLOODY TIME
i been following this for 7 FUCKING YEARS
+ozis ponas I feel you sir , i have been following this for as long , woho !
+ozis ponas Remember that trailer where the fleet jumps in and attacks the station. BF2 and counterstrike was the game to play. That is how long it has been.
+ozis ponas Right. I thought this project was abandoned years ago. I'm now re-hyped that it's back and even better!
+ozis ponas you guys should check out star citizen if you like this one
excidium1991 Two completely different types of games :P
"Like Planetside2, in that you have these set piece missions you have to put together"
Respectfully, Planetside doesn't fit into this category. Planetside 2 is a massive sandbox where you fight over continents, without loading screens and with persistence. If anything, the downside to Planetside 2 is that it's SO open ended, it's so sandboxy that many people find it difficult when starting out to figure out just exactly they have to do.
It's an awesome game, and I love your videos, just felt like it should be politely pointed out. Battlefield - session shooter and very restricted. Planetside 2 huge open-ended gameplay without any win conditions or gameplay restrictions. Cheers :)
I just love this. Exactly what i predicted a year ago, that (back then we had seen jack shit of what Star Citizen really could become) eventually some talented lower budget smaller dev teams would pick up the genre and accomplish what Star Citizen claimed to be able to accomplish, long before Chris Roberts even gets it into Beta.
And here we are in 2015, first Pulsar: Lost Colony, and now this, Angels Fall First.
We now have at least TWO seperate independent games developed by relatively tiny studios on a tiny budget, which already have accomplished the very core gameplay systems, mechanics and technicalities that Star Citizen talked the talk about, but failed to walk the walk.
Granted, after the live multicrew SC demo i was very impressed and am now hopeful for Star Citizen having a bright future.
BUT, my point is still the same. Here we have tiny indie studios who ALREADY managed to put together the very "revolutionary" multicrew walk in the ship, man a station, get out and fight with guns, go to space stations or planets, and board a fighter and join the space battle, gameplay. Way way before Star Citizen even is close to having it in Alpha.
You gotta admit, it shows that the TOOLS and the TALENT is what matters in games development, not monetary assets.
Naturally, Star Citizen will have incredible detail and mesh / texture / art quality, thats where MUCH of the millions of dollars goes into. But it is still funny and a bit sad that small indie devs already beat them to the punch, in terms of the core gameplay.
Now imagine if a AAA developer does this, if they realize that, hey, there's a lot of money to be made in this genre.
Imagine if EA or Ubisoft or Square Enix (in reference to their many anime space shooters etc) revealed a fully budgeted 100-200 man dev team game based around space combat in capital ships, multicrew, fps, same stuff as Star Citizen, Pulsar and this game AFF.
I would not be surprised if a AAA game with the exact same core gameplay as Star Citizen comes out, fully polished and relatively bug free, before Star Citizen's PU v1.0
It would be great for us as gamers, but really bad for SC. They gotta step it up, there's no resting time to be had in this industry, you constantly have hundreds of other extremely talented dev studios out there, looking to make a buck AND looking to make high quality good games. They aint just gonna chill out and wait for Star Citizen to do it, they'll try to do it themselves.
God dammit, its good to be a space sim fan. I predict we may see many sleeper hits before SC is released.
As i said, great news for us as gamers, but bad news for SC, as it may be overtaken by more efficent, polished and fast releases.
WOW that was a long essay. LOL, sorry Scott. But i hope it at least made some basic interesting reading for someone out there, if anyone agrees with my logic about this.
+Baleur i'm not sure are you trolling or just uber naive? To compare fidelity of this thing and SC is just laughable to say the least.
The only point i kinda agree is that it is good to be sci-fi genre fan again - after all those long years)) BTW, you obviously do not link the rise of the genre with SC, right? Thinking that happened all by itself?
+Baleur This has been in development far longer than Star Citizen has.
flashbackflip I never compared the fidelity or detail, i simply talked about the core gameplay and if it will be glitchy or not.
+Baleur I agree that small teams like this can accomplish really amazing things compared to big budget projects (just look at Limit Theory!) but Angels Fall First is nothing like the scope of Star Citizen and it has been in development for over 7 years as well so they really aren't comparable. Better to compare Star Citizen with No Man's Sky (a small team with fairly small budget) or to Limit Theory (a one-man project) since they are all trying to make very similar games :)
+Baleur AFAIK the Shard Collective team who participated in the next great starship for Star Citizen were also the main people who worked on this AFF game.. Its just unfortunate they only went 2nd on that contest..
Really happy you covered this Scott, now maybe we can see more people on the servers.
For those that remember Angels Fall First when it was still a concept art back from the days of Homeworld modding... this certainly has come a LOOONNNGGGG way...
Wow, thank you for reviewing this! I watch your vids regularly did not expect to see you review a game I helped a little bit with! Thanks! A cool surprise.
That looks pretty awesome! Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I LOVE the briefing room. It does look pretty glitchy overall but I'm keeping an eye on this one. :)
"Angles Fall First"
I seem to remember a Homeworld 2 mod by that name many years ago.
+Jeffery Liggett This is set in the same universe.
+Jeffery Liggett Fantastic mod and beautiful concept but need a lot of work to improve
+Jeffery Liggett It is the same mod!!!! If you read the game page the game has been in development for 7 years!
+Jeffery Liggett Or a Nightwish song...
+Jeffery Liggett The AFF was born on HW2 and encompasses a variety of projects, which included a submission to the 2009 Make Something Unreal contest (3rd place finish). The latter of which evolved in to the title released for Early Access on Thursday.
Scott, you never cease to educate and entertain! Great vid. Thnx.
For those worrying about it being Early Access: 90% of the game in terms of gameplay is done. It just needs some serious polish and it's gonna be great.
This vid popped up on my suggested vids. Had never heard of this, and am actually quiet interested. Thanks for making and uploading this video!!
Stop copying my client's games and doing them better than my client.
love from
Derek Smart's Lawyer
+Rich While-Cooper I can't wait for Derek Smart's 10 paragraph long post about how bad and immoral this game developer is.
***** He has already gotten a lot more attention than he deserves.
Pls guys if anybody names him one more time he will be summoned and will sue us all.
***** What have his games contributed? As far as I know all of his games have very negative reviews. I have watched a few gameplay videos and they were completely broken and basically unplayable. He is definitely completely jealous of Star Citizen's success.
+befru He showed how not to make space games?
I love how Scott catches fire immediately after saying "I don't have to think."
waited for years for Angels Fall First, nice to see it happening
I just found out about this game yesterday and I thought it looks awesome. Now Scott is doing a video about it. GET OUT OF MY HEAD SCOTT.
Oh wow. I was following this project all the way back in 2005 when it was all still just concept art and dreams. Amazing to see they've come so far and really made it happen. Wish them the best of luck.
This game looks awesome btw. Somebody has tried online? Do you recommend it as it is?
It depends on your tolerance for rubber banding and occasional level geometry glitches.
+Quester91 There are some serious latency issues and the UI is too much.
+Scott Manley I have a very high tolerance for rubber banding. Because of my sister, who uses an inordinate amount of bandwidth. So how do you get this game?
It's on the steam store! :)
+Quester91 it does not work and they were barelly 40 people online in the whole saturday afternoon I played. I asked for a refund
Reminds me of the old source mod "Eternal Silence". They did the ship to shooter combat pretty well on the Source engine but development for it died years ago and people stopped playing it. I'm glad to see more games like this because this is something I have wanted since I played the space battles in Battlefront II!
Vacuum energy propelled vacuum cleaner?
+Firefox is red, Explorer is blue. Google+ sucks and Chrome does too. has vacuum energy be confirmed yet or is that stuff still just a theory?
There is definitely something happening in a vacuum. Exactly what is still being debated. Could be vacuum energy, could be dark energy, could be the cosmological constant. (They're all pretty similar)
In addition to those, you might want to read up on these 2:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle
very interesting
+Firefox is red, Explorer is blue. Google+ sucks and Chrome does too.
Nah, I think the ships whole purpose is to clean the vacuum of space. So it is literally a vacuum cleaner.
+taylor sims vacuum cleaning a vacuum with a vacuum in a vacuum. AFF 2015
Thanks for showing us this game since I would never have heard about it otherwise. It is 25% off on Steam ($13.49) until October 8th.
Thank you for making a video on this. It needs some publicity!
This is what I love full scale battlefield with a full variety of vehicles
This is exactly what i want from a Sci-Fi shooter. You and your team set off in a huge ship, try to take out other ships, things get messy, run up to a smaller fighter ship and escape at the last minute and hopefully board another bigger ship and have an awesome on-foot firefight.
Wow, I remember playing this when it was newly released as a mod for UT3 many, many years ago. There was no AI though and it was hard to find enough players. But it was great! Thanks for showing me its in Early Access Scott!
It was a long forgotten treasure :)
Never heard of this. That capital ship you were flying is so goddamn cool, I fucking love it.
Thanks for making a video on this game. It needed some publicity
I'm really glad to see this. Played the HW2 mod back in the day. Always thought they had potential.
I love that the jeep you were in has the same sounds as the Humvee from Command and Conquer Renegade. Memories
I played this game years ago when they had their own website and it was a small group of friends coding this. Its always been a very polished effort, really glad they didn't give up on this game..
This game started off as a mod, two mods, actually, and now it's going to become a full-fledged game.
I can see the desire for this to be an epic title foaming at the mouths of the developers, who've probably treated this universe and story as their love-child since the days leading up to their mod's creations. I've no doubt that when this game is polished, it will command awe from all who see it.
So yeah, I'm actually happy with my purchase truth-be-told~
I remember way back in the day they were making mods for HW2 and Nexus: The Jupiter incident for angels fall first, I used to post on their forums and played the homeworld mod quite a bit. They had some really good worldbuilding that reminded me a lot of battletech.
the new battlefront coming out has no campaign, no clone wars era, no galactic conquest. no space battles, and the AT-AT's are on rails....basically its battlefield 4 style pick a server and be forced to play whatever mode and map is on at the time. it's been claimed they're gonna add some of these things back in but why would you want such a gutted title for full 60 dollar price with no real content just to pay more later for dlc and expansions that add in what should have been there in the first place. this is EA's micro-transaction engine at work lol
+RazielTheLost well in the new battlefront you can't even pick a server, its said to be quickmatch with no server browser
Johnny Bobby it just got worse lol :3
I bet if Disney didn't buy star wars there would be a lot more things in the game
Johnny Bobby i bet that too. when disney bought star wars they shut down the game studios and stopped several long anticipated video games in there tracks including battlefront, who knows how different it is now to what it was before the stop.
***** yup no clone wars, came from the devs own mouths. all i am wondering is if they have created this content now anyways just because of the fans outcry about how gutted the game is gonna be. like theres nearly no real content when its released, there has been talk of stuff being added in later BUT they have not said WHAT will be added and IF it will be free and HOW LONG until it is added. we are given a MASSIVE lack of details and just told hey your game is very stripped and empty but it looks amazing though *wink*......
thumbs up for the Derek Smart reference, I was thinking of the exact same thing, loved his games despite their issues
The free tech demo version of this has been out for years, i remember playing a while ago, and then i forgot about it and assumed the devs did too, really glad to see that they have still been working on the game.
Looked pretty reasonable back then, looks pretty good now
I use to play the crap out of the Unreal Tournament 3 mod version of this. A few maps had choke point issues, but overall it was really fun. I've high hopes for this!
Edit: Just noticed the ships still carry the names of some of us players back in the mod days. Oh definitively jumping on, grabbing my Deke, and repelling all boarders off my precious Swift! She a heavy girl, but packs a wallop! :)
Just purchased it based on this video. Looks like a lot of fun, and definitely something I have wanted for a long time.
This game kind of looks like what Halo should be by now.
Edit: Destiny too. This is the ultimate form of the sci-fi shooter with vehicles.
I can just imagine how everyone just team works to hell together to win or like these heroes of both teams that change the course of battles. The scale is just amazing.
This is great! And they have been doing this since 2007 and it still is "early access". They also use Unreal Engine and yet it´s not very easy to do this kind of project. Still, looks rad! Thanks for showing us!
This video is very well edited.
I can imagine the huge badass space fights this is going to create once online mode is stable. But one really interesting thing I love is the fact star fighters actually launch out of your ship!
I think there's room for a game like this in the market. Big epic massive set-piece gameplay. Not everything needs to be an MMO, and not everything needs to be some sort of open sandbox! This doesn't look too dissimilar to some of the Unreal Tournament game types (which is perhaps not that surprising, being based on UT), which I have a lot of fond memories of.
What I really like is the multi-discipline stuff, combined arms and strategic gameplay all in one is pretty cool. And massively complex!
That is a pure Scot if I ever saw one - immolated, with no ammo in sight, and he still manages to massacre the poor soul that happens to appear in his way.
this looks AMAZING! get this thing some professional funding, Also an idea for great mechanic,you giving voice commands for reports and actions for when your the commander of a capital ship. Shields/ weapon status, main gun firing, npcs shouting status reports at you, It would be awesome!
This actually looks really good. I do really want a game like this, where you can jump into any part of a large battle. Starfighters, capital ships, turrets, dropships, infantry, everything. If only Mass Effect would make a game with that in mind. I'd never see the light of day again.
I remembered seeing artwork for this on Devianart many years ago. A quick search give me that it was from 2005! Stuff looks good for being so old.
I've wanted a game like this ever since the first time i played Titan mode on Battlefield 2142....
The aesthetics of the ships and fighters make it clear that one of its design ancestors is the Homeworld series.
Lol I love how you thought your team mate at the end was shooting the console xD I've made the same mistake a few times as well, but generally a sustained green laser means it's a good thing if he's on your side :)
It's about time someone relatively youtube-famous covered this game. For those of you that are afraid to buy it because of relatively low playercounts; just get it. You can contribute to that never being a problem, and to further allay that hesitation it has very competent bots, who actually carry out their objectives and use almost all the equipment in the game.
You're getting many times the features of Battlefront for 20% of the price - no tacked-on DLC or season passes or pre-order bonuses or whatever garbage the AAA industry butchers games with these days. The full thing. Ten quid.
This game looks like it has truly incredible potential
This looks like a lot of fun. Everything I ever wanted, just not quite. I'm really looking forward to the second iteration, haha.
I remember playing this when the free UDK was first released, loving it, and then thinking it was dead ever since, so glad to see it isn't
Been watching the development of this for quite a while, can't wait for them to finish it.
Here we go with yet another early access.
Choo-Choo! This is the you-know-what train!
Scott missed out on the Newtonian physics you can use for space flight by hitting MMB, it becomes more like flying a fighter all your favorite Sci Fi books as opposed to flying a space air-plane
Remember when we could do this back in 2005 on battlefront 2? I swear gaming has taken a huge step back. Thanks EA!
+TheDigdig66 I loved Battlefront 2, game that made me a gamer, I must've spent all of my spare time as a kid on that...
Ye, we could do this in Battlefront 2, but not this detailed. In BF2, you had couple of rooms and a hangar for space ships. This one has entire ships.
This game is looking friggen great... the concept is anyway. I love that the debre fields are actually there. Other games there's all that stuff but it just feels like you don't have to worry about it. In this you do. Hopefully the game is a lot better when complete and not a bust.
Just checked my mailbox, I found the registry mail that I got when I signed up on the forum in 2009 - I didn't know that this still exists! :D
That was UT2004 Assault Game Mode, not a mod, it came with a game.
Though assault wasn't about space always, but few missions were mostly based in space.
There was a UT3 and Homeworld 2 mod
I remember reading about this years ago. I had a really bad computer, so I forgot about it to save myself the pain of never being able to play.
Rough edges or not, this game was the first I've seen that allowed you to feel like you are in a real moving spaceship in a battle like that. So I thought it was really cool designs and art.
I only tried it a long time ago when it was a demo using UDK.
I remember the ground combat being harder compared to most FPS.
I have no idea where they've taken it since then but if they turn it into an MMO-like type of thing where each planet is map and you can transition between these via gates (maybe filling spaces with procedural generated environments) , build some pseudo-persistent overlay that gives more meaningful context to battles.. well then I think it would overtake stuff like DUST514 or Planetside2.
The concept is amazing, the execution is extremely rough around the edges right now.
What a great concept and interesting looking game! Early access here I come!
Damn, games like this and Elite/Star Citizen are dreams come true from 10-20 years ago.
Wow, this is everything I wanted Elite Dangerous and Fractured Space to be, and here is a mod doing it perfectly.
oh man i was waiting for the "vacuum-ception" joke and he delivered.
This is basically what I wanted to see from Battlefront, awesome :D
Why doesn't DICE let these guys make space battles for Battlefront, and make everybody happy?
+Senor Cardgage Does not work that way..
+Senor Cardgage becouse that would make sense
That full sized capital-ship, is a FULL SIZED LEAF-BLOWER!! Although it has the swiftness of a glacier, but its understandable when you try to cycle air in vacuum :D
dude i played the mod back in the day, this game was amazing!!
I think it is time for the Scott Manley review of THE MARTIAN!
I have an important bluegrass festival all weekend.
+Scott Manley Enjoy the festival, but please do keep in mind that the world begs for this review.
+Scott Manley Aye. Beer, music, friends and food. What better a weekend could you ask for?
+Scott Manley We're getting footage of that right?
So basically it's like Star Wars battlefront on steroids? I'm sold.
Man, I remember playing this when it was still a beta on UT @.@ time flies
Guys we NEEED more people. Look how awesome this is, why arent you here?!
I remember this project from YEARS ago. If I recall correctly, it originally started amoungst developers of a Homeworld 2 mod.
i played the demo ages ago and was obsessed with it but couldent find a full game till i had a look again today yeahhhhhh im so happy i can play it again
Man I love games from this era of the unreal engine, we had good looking games without all the clutter obscuring everything.
I have spent years dreaming of a game that works like this.
Man i love watching scott's vids on KSP, but now playing my own game ! :A
cool vid
Guys, let's be nice. It was only a little topical joke.. no-one should have to justify why we like a game - even a Derek game. Scott makes brilliant and balanced videos and I kind of feel bad for starting this argument which is now getting quite aggressive and clogging up his comments. Sorry Scott. My bad.
This is what the new Battlefront should play like.
I'm proud to have supported this game by buying early access. But the thing is, that's all that you're doing by buying this. It's not finished and it has very serious problems. The potential however is enormous. If you're looking for ground based sci-fi team oriented combat without any glitches or performance issues, just play Planet Side, though I am rooting for this game.
I love how bad Scott is at being security, but he is pretty good at being on fire
I just sampled a little bit of this. the glitches I saw where small and not game breaking. the combat looks incredible.
best part "As you can tell from the sound it is driven by a vacuum cleaner. yes we shall call this the hoover."
"(laugh) How often do you knife somebody to death while you are on fire?" Priceless :D
I'd just like to say that I played this way back in a pre-alpha phase whilst it was still much more a mod than standalone. The guys developing it are doing so on a "zero budget" witch basically means their back pockets. It was actually not terrible back then and looks just that much better now.
This does remind me a lot of the Battlefield series. The Battlefield series started out as featuring infantry combat, land vehicle combat, naval combat and air combat. Naval combat was quickly cut out and players tended to prefer maps with as much close quarter action as possible. Later Battlefield series put a higher emphasis on the close quarter action, at the cost of making the game feel less like an actual war.
If this game is to avoid a similar fate, then ship to ship combat has to be awesome. The developers need to think carefully about how things will actually play out and not too much on what sounds awesome.
Scott, you could have shown people the Newtonian-like flight model. Disengage the 'jetfighters in space' and start going all over the place, orbiting targets and other nifty hijinks.
I'm sure it's one of the draws of this game.
It is also the name of one of my favourite albums, Nightwish's first and best
Wow, blast from the past! AFF has been at times a Homeworld 2 mod and a Nexus: the Jupiter Incident mod.
Not sure if it's been said before, but the space levels seem to have a lot more server lag in the current version. That's why people prefer the ground levels.
This looks like exactly what I wanted from Star Wars Battlefront space missions. Alas, we have been given something that looks like a port of a free iPad space shooter.
Wow! So many games out there needs to have THIS mechanic! I already see a W40k mod for this! Super awesome! I missed this concept since Dust 514 failed to came out on PC... Hope my friends will like this one too.
As you pointed out, you are not in space, but in stuff. So technically you fly a vacuum in stuff, which kinda makes sense ;)