Now that just no. yeah it would look good on them and it would be good for us but you have to remember at the end of the day they are a business. Imagine the amount of money they lose out, I wouldn't doubt heirlooms are their main way of money so just giving everyone who played the game a free one is stupid since they lose out on millions or perhaps billions by doing this.
It was leaked for a while that was an idea they had to give everyone a free katar and then buy your upgrades. I still think this is a possibility is the katar doesn’t to very well. I can see them making the base katar free and obviously compensation anyone who purchased it with shards, maybe giving them their shards back.
@@felipezamora9711 Sure, whales will buy one no matter what, but actually most people would be more inclined to buy the upgrades if they already have the base version, myself included. A large amount of people spending a small amount of money can make more than a small amount of people spending a larger amount of money. Also unless you're an investor or a board head, why do you care how much money EA makes off of microtransactions?
I’m glad to hear a content creator not immediately buying everything that comes out for apex. I’m so tired of the streamers and TH-camrs saying “vote with your wallet” then buying everything they possibly can
He's been done had 600 for months now just wasting them on the new heirlooms and prestige skins that come out after the event I assume but quite a few content creators and streamers haven't bought many if not any of the upgrades yet and some have well let's just say completed all of them lol
Apex legends is just a milk machine for respawn and Ea so that they can make other games. Probably the reason why respawn made the star wars game is that thanks to apex giving them the big bucks they are able to make a Star Wars game in the first place.
@@justinhobbs8646it’s a different skin but for a single skin of a gun that you’re not even guaranteed to get in a game,it’s a terrible deal,cod has better deals than this
I disagree. This whole “yeah it’s bad, but at least it’s not as bad as when they ____” is exactly what they want you saying. Sure, it’s not like the previous events where you buy packs nonstop for a ridiculously small chance of getting what you want, but $40 to complete just one set is still insane. And that’s not even accounting for the fact that you first need to drop 150 heirloom shards on a soulless gray blade with nothing special to it.
I'm not trying to defend anything, but the game is literally f2p, you can just buy the battle pass for 10 bucks and after that you have to spend 0$ to enjoy the game. Also you get tons of skins and whatnot through your gameplay.. You can't be mad at such things, you either buy it or don't.
I just want the green electric one and purple one maybe the base blue but that will cost my soul and 230$ I think to get it outright if I even have rhe heirloom shards for the bade which I don't right now and I'm like atleast 260 packs away from my guaranteed which will be my 3rd heirloom but that's gonna take me atleast 2 years if I domt grind non stop everyday and average well without a squad cause exp comes much faster with a team with the BP aswell I think so yeah this is just bad for everybody involved and I hope they change it so you can unlock the base katar through a set of legend and weapon challenges and just playing every game mode or cheapen it to like 120 exotic shards 1 mill legend tokens 40k crafting metals 10k coins something which is like 100$ which is more than enough for a default blade than having to slowly unlock the styles through BP or events or hear me out give us exotic shards through some kinda mode or challenges over time it doesn't have to be much 10-5 even 1 as long as it's something something is better than nothing right now it just feels soulless and a cop out I don't like it and I don't want it even with all the customization options and gl to anyone who wants whatever mid tier artifacts they come up with because this is what you can expect to get all of them apm did it better imo
@@HardDrumStepFortnite did the same thing, and epic went rolling money, cuz they did the obvious right decision and reached the casual NOT rich player and made there skins much more cheap, than apex for example, even tough it’s also f2p
I feel like people are a little misinformed how it works. You dont need to fully buy all the katars before you get the nitride one. Once you buy all the other basic modles for the other katars, you unlock the basic model of the nitride, if you want the color scheme of the nitride, you need to unlock all other color schemes, the same goes for the power core, activation emote, and the deathbox. It's still stupid its set up that way instead of just being able to buy the nitride parts directly but at least if you just want the color scheme you dont need buy literally everything, you just need to buy up to the color schemes. Which is also a second thing that is stupid; if you just want the power core of one set, you need to buy the base model and the color scheme.
The fact you have to use 150 heirloom shards on the base katar, which doesn't even come with a banner frame or pose is ludicrous. Especially because you then have to spend 5 seasons grinding the passes or paying out a bit less than £40 for 50 exotic shards to have a complete heirloom is insane. Imagine if when you bought the other heirlooms you had to pay more to get the banner, voice lines, finishers, lighting effects & inspect animations, it wouldn't be worth it so neither is the Katar. My friend is a whale & owns all the heirlooms, mythics & katars. He thinks the Katar is worth the price because it can be used on any legend, but I don't agree because the base version has nothing with it as I just explained & it's not as interesting as legend specific heirlooms.
Sucks though since I'm a Maggie main, and with the direction the devs are going with this, I highly doubt that Maggie will get her heirloom anytime soon.
I mean that’s a ridiculous equivalency, obviously an heirloom than can be used on like 25 characters should cost more than one than can only be used on one. Also who genuinely cares about banner frames or voice quips.
Not to mention there's zero lore affiliated with the Katar, no meaning or reference. The inspect animations on the heirlooms being legend specific and thought out is nice
Little bit of a correction you have to purchase pieces of the sets in order you can buy any of the sets minus the one for owning all the previous ones.
I'm crazy disappointed with the direction Apex has gone. I remember how disastrously the very first Heirloom event went (Bloodhounds) partly because you had to buy the heirloom after getting all collection event items BUT ALSO because you had to spend money on everything. They apologized and said that all future events would allow multiple currencies. But now they have events again where it's money only, like the Katar was and like the Caustic skin in the store right now is.
They should make a use for having 150 heirloom shards. Make the katar base 50 shards or 100, ever since I’ve started playing apex I’ve never understood the logic behind having 150 and spending 150 all in one go, they might as well just make a singular heirloom token or voucher instead
Honestly they shoulda made the base cost 20-50 exotic shards and All upgrades 10 shards, but they coulda made it like heirloom shards where there’s a chance to get anywhere from 10-50 shards every 50-75 packs so it’s easier to get than heirlooms but takes longer.
Let me remind everyone that we are only able to get 10 shards once for this battlepass. To be able to get anything in the shop you need to save up for 5/4 more battlepasses to get anything. Which still makes it a cashgrab.
Currently level 700+ with only one heirloom that i got 2 years ago from a random pack. Saw someone say this was all a good business decision. Besides battle passes i am definitely NOT paying for anything else in this game because of these tactics. So i ask you, me being the average consumer who has now been pushed away from buying anything more because of this strategy, was this really a smart business decision?
@@ireliamain5769 so a consumer is sensitive when giving feedback about a product and the way that it is being produced? Horrible take and not a mature one either.
I wouldn’t have that big of an issue with what they’re doing here if you at least got enough exotic shards for a reactive skin or full katar set from completing the battlepass like overwatch is doing. I’m happy they’re doing this kind of thing, but there’s still a way to go before it’s actually good.
I’m genuinely just waiting for a major lawsuit to happen as a result of “gotcha”- which is really just gambling. Gambling is something that needs to be regulated. There is a reason we have established legislation around minors not gambling. So how is gambling on a live service game ok? It isn’t.
"Yes it may be overpriced, but [...]" god i hate the apex community for completely ignoring the greed of a company that already has enough money and being so accepting.
I know this is off-topic, but shouldn't reactive skins have their own rarity instead of legendary? They're a truly unique kind of weapon skin, so I think they deserve the Red/Mythic tier instead of Legendary.
50 dollars for a weapon skin is crazy. The 20 dollars they normally charge is way overpriced but somehow they over double it and for some reason people will still but them. All it would take is for no one to buy the stuff a couple time and the prices would become reasonable
I deadass don’t understand why even make this an heirloom in the first place, especially if you need heirloom shards for it they’re just making legend specific heirlooms kinda pointless, and for all the extra things you have to go through just to get the items when we already have mythic skins with certain requirements it genuinely makes 0 sense.
Solution to everyone’s problems. Don’t buy cosmetics. All it does is show you’re willing to give them money for nothing and makes them more inclined to pump out skins then work on the game. I mainly play rocket league and i hate watching the game get neglected, in some cases worsened, while still seeing a new cosmetic item event every couple of weeks. Stop giving these people money and maby they’ll work on the quality of their game rather than how much they can charge for a battle pass.
Or they'll completely drop the game due to low funding. This is EA we're talking about, they have many other titles that dishes out cash for them, they're not gonna care much if one stops the flow of money.
Katar is not worth it because not only you have to spend heirloom shards first (and you don't even get one full set right off start), you also have to grind for like 3 seasons just to get to the "effect" slot of one of the sets. And to get a whole set you have to grind for 5 seasons. I think katar will be way better if you wouldn't need to spend heirloom shards first
If I have to play 5 battle passes just to be able to max out 1 katar set (and all I get besides the katar is a death box), then I’d much rather just get a normal legend heirloom
I agree. games that have a chance system for what you’re buying are terrible and almost all the time what they charge is worse than a bundle that you know what you’re getting
Aside from the heirlooms the reskins of battle pass weapon skin amazes me like 40 or 50 bucks (don’t know the exact price) for a reskin and its only due to popular demand, like it feels dumb and what’s more dumb they said they weren’t gonna release any other variants of battle pass weapons
I used my guaranteed one for valk before they nerfed her, not knowing they would come out with a universal one. Gotta get lucky now if I keep up playing.
Of only they realized how much MOOONEY they would make if thousands of people spend 10-20$ at the season opening on the Katars* + the thousands (although fewer) of people that spend 40-80$ dollars about a month later on the r9 & flat skin and how that money could possibly ease the pressure on budget needed for the upcoming events this season… but if that would not be enough then these people/EA are overspending on cosmetic making or greed has taken over the Apex team but as they say “… keep your opinions to yourself” right??😐
My problem is that you only get 10 shards on the battle pass but the items cost 50 shards like I have to get 5 battle passes at that rate to get an item So that's 5 seasons to wait and hope the item I want is still available 🤦🏾♂️
You get 10 shards per battlepass. This means it will take you 5 seasons to get one of those reactive skins plus another few seasons for the katar upgrades. It will take you well over a year. If we consider each battlepass as 60 days (this season is 88)... 60×5 for one reactive skin + 60× 4 for one full upgrade path of katar (not including the katar itself) is 540 days. To get everything would be (24×60 = 1440) + (100×60 = 6000) = 7440 days. I'll have to sacrifice my firstborn to afford this.
😑... never in my 31 years of life have i ever gotten killed and been like "Wow that player has an amazing skin with a cool gun wrap". "Hes awesome!" 🤦🏻♂️ idk why yall buy skins..
Im so mad at myself because i got my heirloom around a month ago and they made it sound like the catar wouldn't cost heirloom shards so i got my mains being ramparts and if i had just waited a week i wouldve known that i could have on on everyone
Katar needs Universal emote Unique pose Sky dive theme trail Universal finisher And 2 unique inspect animations per legend And than it would be worth it.
Why isn’t “chanced based” digital merchandise not illegal? I think game publishers need to be audited and reviewed by the appropriate legal parties. I’d say a fair amount of its player base is underage, and this game has a T-rating. Chance and Gacha based systems should be held to higher scrutiny. Especially for a company as low as EA.
It's obviously not. The gun run maybe fun (kinda?), though it's mostly annoying cause you have to cope with guns you never use, plus it's not 6v6 but 3v3v3v3 so all matches are pure chaos. It's bad for warming up, it's not fun, it's not good for quick fights cause you're not using what you want to. Tdm is objectively the best and most fun mixtape mode. Control has too much people in it, and because of what this gamemode about there are a lot of rats which is annoying
@@zatupich Oh no, not mixtape mode. It's the best mode period. Over the actual BR. And if you aren't using guns you're not used to then you're not going to improve. You will end up losing a lot of fights early if you just happen to get the 3030 and can't use it. So arguing that it's bad because you get guns you don't know how to use is pointless, just learn how to use them. TDM sucks because every map right now is "Take high ground, snipe or camp." And that's so incredibly boring.
Considering I have had 150 heirloom shards sitting in my account for over a year and a half just gathering dust, this katar system was a no brainer for me. A universal melee weapon I can use on any legend and customize? Yes the customization may cost extra, but I can personalize a set for each legend and it’s honestly pretty cool
Pretty much this. People assume that you must pay the $50 off the bat rather than simply grinding through the pass or even forking over $10 when you have the chance to build through there. I get that it's not lore related or provide some quip or banner, but when the devs are putting character specific heirlooms to the side for now due to the customization of the Katar, you really don't have much of a choice for people who play legends that have yet to get an heirloom, or when you have to switch legends.
@@arctictropic1147 I assume they will only add more sets as time goes on. Unless they decide to release another artifact with its own set, which I doubt. I think they’ll just be adding more katar sets with time
I’ve been playing apex since it dropped but these fans are so brainwashed it’s insane, no new guns anymore but nonstop overpriced heirlooms, reskins, and now the katar bs, like it’s highway robbery and these guys are like “ehh it’s not that bad”
It is a very odd choice to still require heirloom shards to start this monetization expansion of the game. I hope they increase the chances of getting heirloom shards. Otherwise this was poorly done.
I like how ea is trying to do something, not the best buy something fresh, yet riot games is doing a 500$ skin for 1 champion about a real life human who can't a flying f about you, guys if you really want to give hate on monetizations, go and hate the 500$ skin and if you try to argue with me that the buster sword heirloom is expensive as well (atleast you can use that heirloom on all the characters) the buster sword costed 160$
I have spent maybe 60$ on Apex since season 5 when i started playing and it was for the battle passes and i had a few that i paid for by saving my coins from the previous battle passes. This game is definitely a money grab but the upside is at least most cosmetics and stuff dont change anything in the game other than maybe your finsher speed so no pay to win. I think their greedy as all get out and they will always find a way to make a quick million. I have an awesome idea though fix the actual game 😂
Dont buy the reactives please we already messed up the heirlooms after the final fantasy event and now we wont get legend heirloom and dont want to loose the reactives from battle pass too 😢
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I feel like they should've just given everyone a base katar if they knew this was the direction they were heading
Nah
Bad business decision and I can’t blame them for being smart they earn way more money this way
Now that just no. yeah it would look good on them and it would be good for us but you have to remember at the end of the day they are a business. Imagine the amount of money they lose out, I wouldn't doubt heirlooms are their main way of money so just giving everyone who played the game a free one is stupid since they lose out on millions or perhaps billions by doing this.
It was leaked for a while that was an idea they had to give everyone a free katar and then buy your upgrades. I still think this is a possibility is the katar doesn’t to very well. I can see them making the base katar free and obviously compensation anyone who purchased it with shards, maybe giving them their shards back.
@@felipezamora9711 Sure, whales will buy one no matter what, but actually most people would be more inclined to buy the upgrades if they already have the base version, myself included. A large amount of people spending a small amount of money can make more than a small amount of people spending a larger amount of money. Also unless you're an investor or a board head, why do you care how much money EA makes off of microtransactions?
I’m glad to hear a content creator not immediately buying everything that comes out for apex. I’m so tired of the streamers and TH-camrs saying “vote with your wallet” then buying everything they possibly can
he already bought them tho
@@JJ_cooks he has the base katar because he had 300 heirloom shards and he’s explicitly stated he’s not planning to upgrade them
@@cheesykebs708 I wonder where he got those shards from 🤔 it wasn't buying 1000 packs, was it?
He's been done had 600 for months now just wasting them on the new heirlooms and prestige skins that come out after the event I assume but quite a few content creators and streamers haven't bought many if not any of the upgrades yet and some have well let's just say completed all of them lol
He definitely has all the upgrades, check the stream from today
It's $50.00 for a reskin..still headed in the wrong direction.
Apex legends is just a milk machine for respawn and Ea so that they can make other games. Probably the reason why respawn made the star wars game is that thanks to apex giving them the big bucks they are able to make a Star Wars game in the first place.
That 99 looks like a pay to win skin with out the normal little circle
@@justinhobbs8646 well yeah it's a recolor of the original reactive ones which looked the exact same
@@justinhobbs8646it’s a different skin but for a single skin of a gun that you’re not even guaranteed to get in a game,it’s a terrible deal,cod has better deals than this
I disagree. This whole “yeah it’s bad, but at least it’s not as bad as when they ____” is exactly what they want you saying. Sure, it’s not like the previous events where you buy packs nonstop for a ridiculously small chance of getting what you want, but $40 to complete just one set is still insane. And that’s not even accounting for the fact that you first need to drop 150 heirloom shards on a soulless gray blade with nothing special to it.
I'm not trying to defend anything, but the game is literally f2p, you can just buy the battle pass for 10 bucks and after that you have to spend 0$ to enjoy the game. Also you get tons of skins and whatnot through your gameplay.. You can't be mad at such things, you either buy it or don't.
40$ to customise is better than 160$ for an heirloom recolour
I just want the green electric one and purple one maybe the base blue but that will cost my soul and 230$ I think to get it outright if I even have rhe heirloom shards for the bade which I don't right now and I'm like atleast 260 packs away from my guaranteed which will be my 3rd heirloom but that's gonna take me atleast 2 years if I domt grind non stop everyday and average well without a squad cause exp comes much faster with a team with the BP aswell I think so yeah this is just bad for everybody involved and I hope they change it so you can unlock the base katar through a set of legend and weapon challenges and just playing every game mode or cheapen it to like 120 exotic shards 1 mill legend tokens 40k crafting metals 10k coins something which is like 100$ which is more than enough for a default blade than having to slowly unlock the styles through BP or events or hear me out give us exotic shards through some kinda mode or challenges over time it doesn't have to be much 10-5 even 1 as long as it's something something is better than nothing right now it just feels soulless and a cop out I don't like it and I don't want it even with all the customization options and gl to anyone who wants whatever mid tier artifacts they come up with because this is what you can expect to get all of them apm did it better imo
@@HardDrumStepFortnite did the same thing, and epic went rolling money, cuz they did the obvious right decision and reached the casual NOT rich player and made there skins much more cheap, than apex for example, even tough it’s also f2p
What’s crazy to me is that the purple katar is only available if you buy all the others 😓
I feel like people are a little misinformed how it works. You dont need to fully buy all the katars before you get the nitride one. Once you buy all the other basic modles for the other katars, you unlock the basic model of the nitride, if you want the color scheme of the nitride, you need to unlock all other color schemes, the same goes for the power core, activation emote, and the deathbox. It's still stupid its set up that way instead of just being able to buy the nitride parts directly but at least if you just want the color scheme you dont need buy literally everything, you just need to buy up to the color schemes. Which is also a second thing that is stupid; if you just want the power core of one set, you need to buy the base model and the color scheme.
@@LesoTheGamerboy ok but then still you need to spend at least 100 bucks more to get that one.
The fact you have to use 150 heirloom shards on the base katar, which doesn't even come with a banner frame or pose is ludicrous. Especially because you then have to spend 5 seasons grinding the passes or paying out a bit less than £40 for 50 exotic shards to have a complete heirloom is insane. Imagine if when you bought the other heirlooms you had to pay more to get the banner, voice lines, finishers, lighting effects & inspect animations, it wouldn't be worth it so neither is the Katar. My friend is a whale & owns all the heirlooms, mythics & katars. He thinks the Katar is worth the price because it can be used on any legend, but I don't agree because the base version has nothing with it as I just explained & it's not as interesting as legend specific heirlooms.
Should have got it when it first came out.
Sucks though since I'm a Maggie main, and with the direction the devs are going with this, I highly doubt that Maggie will get her heirloom anytime soon.
I mean that’s a ridiculous equivalency, obviously an heirloom than can be used on like 25 characters should cost more than one than can only be used on one. Also who genuinely cares about banner frames or voice quips.
Not to mention there's zero lore affiliated with the Katar, no meaning or reference. The inspect animations on the heirlooms being legend specific and thought out is nice
So glad I can spend 5 seasons (~400 days) to get one katar set, of which I am locked to the first one only as you have to get the sets in order
Little bit of a correction you have to purchase pieces of the sets in order you can buy any of the sets minus the one for owning all the previous ones.
I'm crazy disappointed with the direction Apex has gone. I remember how disastrously the very first Heirloom event went (Bloodhounds) partly because you had to buy the heirloom after getting all collection event items BUT ALSO because you had to spend money on everything. They apologized and said that all future events would allow multiple currencies. But now they have events again where it's money only, like the Katar was and like the Caustic skin in the store right now is.
Bro I ain’t wasting $90 AUD dollars just for 2 skins that are Reactive or so called Recolours 💀
They should make a use for having 150 heirloom shards. Make the katar base 50 shards or 100, ever since I’ve started playing apex I’ve never understood the logic behind having 150 and spending 150 all in one go, they might as well just make a singular heirloom token or voucher instead
Honestly they shoulda made the base cost 20-50 exotic shards and All upgrades 10 shards, but they coulda made it like heirloom shards where there’s a chance to get anywhere from 10-50 shards every 50-75 packs so it’s easier to get than heirlooms but takes longer.
Let me remind everyone that we are only able to get 10 shards once for this battlepass. To be able to get anything in the shop you need to save up for 5/4 more battlepasses to get anything. Which still makes it a cashgrab.
Currently level 700+ with only one heirloom that i got 2 years ago from a random pack. Saw someone say this was all a good business decision. Besides battle passes i am definitely NOT paying for anything else in this game because of these tactics. So i ask you, me being the average consumer who has now been pushed away from buying anything more because of this strategy, was this really a smart business decision?
yes
Yes and you’re not average shut up. Well your gameplay is😎
It's a free to pay game you have to buy nothing these are all cosmetic items yall are to sensitive 😂
@@ireliamain5769 so a consumer is sensitive when giving feedback about a product and the way that it is being produced? Horrible take and not a mature one either.
$60 for just one gun skin is insanely overpriced😂😂😂😂
I hope people don’t buy them it’s a 50$ skin thats just okay.
I wouldn’t have that big of an issue with what they’re doing here if you at least got enough exotic shards for a reactive skin or full katar set from completing the battlepass like overwatch is doing. I’m happy they’re doing this kind of thing, but there’s still a way to go before it’s actually good.
Thanks for showing all the katar mixes, now I can choose which one I like
I wish they would just effing reward us, man. Multiple events a season requiring people to spend X amount of money is highway robbery
Meanwhile I've opened over 500 packs with no heirloom:(
I’m genuinely just waiting for a major lawsuit to happen as a result of “gotcha”- which is really just gambling.
Gambling is something that needs to be regulated. There is a reason we have established legislation around minors not gambling.
So how is gambling on a live service game ok?
It isn’t.
It’s gacha not gotcha but yeah terrible gambling
"Yes it may be overpriced, but [...]"
god i hate the apex community for completely ignoring the greed of a company that already has enough money and being so accepting.
With 10 exotic shards in each battle pass, it would literally take over a year to get one item from the exotic shop "for free".
I know this is off-topic, but shouldn't reactive skins have their own rarity instead of legendary? They're a truly unique kind of weapon skin, so I think they deserve the Red/Mythic tier instead of Legendary.
50 dollars for a weapon skin is crazy. The 20 dollars they normally charge is way overpriced but somehow they over double it and for some reason people will still but them. All it would take is for no one to buy the stuff a couple time and the prices would become reasonable
I deadass don’t understand why even make this an heirloom in the first place, especially if you need heirloom shards for it they’re just making legend specific heirlooms kinda pointless, and for all the extra things you have to go through just to get the items when we already have mythic skins with certain requirements it genuinely makes 0 sense.
Think they'll do another universal heirloom I'm the future? I like the customizable option w the katar, but it looks dumb to me
Tbh I just don't like the idea of a universal heirloom overall
I'm happy with my free fuse heilroom lol 😅
I enjoy it because it's usable by ALL legends and since it's customizable it can match any skin you want.
You can get the bases for all the non-cobalt katars through Exotic Shards
I've finally gotten over my first LVL 500 and I still haven't gotten an heirloom.
Solution to everyone’s problems. Don’t buy cosmetics. All it does is show you’re willing to give them money for nothing and makes them more inclined to pump out skins then work on the game. I mainly play rocket league and i hate watching the game get neglected, in some cases worsened, while still seeing a new cosmetic item event every couple of weeks. Stop giving these people money and maby they’ll work on the quality of their game rather than how much they can charge for a battle pass.
Or they'll completely drop the game due to low funding. This is EA we're talking about, they have many other titles that dishes out cash for them, they're not gonna care much if one stops the flow of money.
I hope they'll sell apex to another company that atucally cares about the state of the game and respawn
Honestly would’ve rather known I could buy a recolor instead of grinding those godforsaken challenges all season
Katar is not worth it because not only you have to spend heirloom shards first (and you don't even get one full set right off start), you also have to grind for like 3 seasons just to get to the "effect" slot of one of the sets. And to get a whole set you have to grind for 5 seasons.
I think katar will be way better if you wouldn't need to spend heirloom shards first
If I have to play 5 battle passes just to be able to max out 1 katar set (and all I get besides the katar is a death box), then I’d much rather just get a normal legend heirloom
And now they can’t give out the base for free cause they decided it was better to sell it to the whales
Yeah, I'm just gonna get the Cobalt for when I get my heirloom shards, then upgrade it once every season with the free 10 exotic shards
I am not spending my shards on that thing anyway. I haven't got any yet but I will be buying a character specific heirloom.
I agree. games that have a chance system for what you’re buying are terrible and almost all the time what they charge is worse than a bundle that you know what you’re getting
Aside from the heirlooms the reskins of battle pass weapon skin amazes me like 40 or 50 bucks (don’t know the exact price) for a reskin and its only due to popular demand, like it feels dumb and what’s more dumb they said they weren’t gonna release any other variants of battle pass weapons
I want to buy some of the different Katars but I'm not bout to buy 500 apex packs to even get started
Skin being the same price as a game is nuts.
I used my guaranteed one for valk before they nerfed her, not knowing they would come out with a universal one. Gotta get lucky now if I keep up playing.
Funny part is i have all the originals for these recolors still original still looks better
Same feelings everything running pretty good so I like the change
Of only they realized how much MOOONEY they would make if thousands of people spend 10-20$ at the season opening on the Katars* + the thousands (although fewer) of people that spend 40-80$ dollars about a month later on the r9 & flat skin and how that money could possibly ease the pressure on budget needed for the upcoming events this season… but if that would not be enough then these people/EA are overspending on cosmetic making or greed has taken over the Apex team but as they say “… keep your opinions to yourself” right??😐
I need a PK reactive skin. I know I'll probably get hate for it but hopefully they add it next in the exotic shop :D
I don't like the look of the Katar,would have preferred the Buster Sword to be bought by heirloom shards.
Thank you for using your platform to call out things like this.
My problem is that you only get 10 shards on the battle pass but the items cost 50 shards like I have to get 5 battle passes at that rate to get an item
So that's 5 seasons to wait and hope the item I want is still available 🤦🏾♂️
You get 10 shards per battlepass. This means it will take you 5 seasons to get one of those reactive skins plus another few seasons for the katar upgrades. It will take you well over a year. If we consider each battlepass as 60 days (this season is 88)... 60×5 for one reactive skin + 60× 4 for one full upgrade path of katar (not including the katar itself) is 540 days. To get everything would be (24×60 = 1440) + (100×60 = 6000) = 7440 days. I'll have to sacrifice my firstborn to afford this.
You get 10 of them every battlepass though, skins are 50 so its still overpriced
Worth. If u have the shards.
I don’t care what yall say that new r99 reactive skin is FIREEEEEEE🔥🔥🔥
I just have one question why is one wepon skin 1800 apex coins THATS 20$ for a wepon skin not even a bundle or anything just one wepon skin
I feel like the pricing for the exotic shards is what makes us not buy those cosmetics it’s too expensive
I like the gatcha aspect
Although they're testing mini gacha events with the caustic skin
😑... never in my 31 years of life have i ever gotten killed and been like "Wow that player has an amazing skin with a cool gun wrap". "Hes awesome!" 🤦🏻♂️ idk why yall buy skins..
We buy them for ourselves like bruh💀
Its better paying 40$ for a reactive recolor than the reactive recolor for the pk💀🙏🏻
imo they scammed everyone who bought a normal legend specific heirloom by putting out a customizable universal one for the same price
50$ for a skin is ridiculous
Im so mad at myself because i got my heirloom around a month ago and they made it sound like the catar wouldn't cost heirloom shards so i got my mains being ramparts and if i had just waited a week i wouldve known that i could have on on everyone
They are fr recolors.
They made a base then the rest is just recolors.
Then the r99 and flatline are recolors from battlepasses
I’ve been playing for 4 of the 5 years and have got shards one time. Just 1. Currently level 431
"everyone will eventually get heirloom shards" yet here i am 1300 hours, prestige level 300 and still no shards :')
they should give everyone the katar by doing challenges and then you have to buy the rest with exotic tokens
I wish it was easier to get the base katar heirloom
Katar needs
Universal emote
Unique pose
Sky dive theme trail
Universal finisher
And 2 unique inspect animations per legend
And than it would be worth it.
When is apex focusing on sbmm?
It’s so great! On top of that they added another rare currency for us to pay for!😕
Bro I have been playing since season 5 (technically season 3) on and off and I’m still level 266 and haven’t got a heirloom😭
I haven’t gotten an heirloom and I’ve been playing since day one
Can you pack exotic shards or do you have to buy them?
Im hoping what ever the next univesal hierloom is will be something allot cooler than this thing. A katar is just not it
Can you use the new katar for any legend like the old frim the last season
I hate all of it and don't interact with any of it. First battle pass I haven't purchased since the release of the game.
Just let me do the 5000 ring closings for a free reactive skin again 😭
They dont force you to anything you just have to say something about it
Why isn’t “chanced based” digital merchandise not illegal? I think game publishers need to be audited and reviewed by the appropriate legal parties. I’d say a fair amount of its player base is underage, and this game has a T-rating. Chance and Gacha based systems should be held to higher scrutiny. Especially for a company as low as EA.
Hotter take. The only good mode is gun run. TDM is fine too I guess.
It's obviously not. The gun run maybe fun (kinda?), though it's mostly annoying cause you have to cope with guns you never use, plus it's not 6v6 but 3v3v3v3 so all matches are pure chaos. It's bad for warming up, it's not fun, it's not good for quick fights cause you're not using what you want to.
Tdm is objectively the best and most fun mixtape mode.
Control has too much people in it, and because of what this gamemode about there are a lot of rats which is annoying
Not a hot take but a retarded take💀
not rlly a hot take tbh
@@zatupich Oh no, not mixtape mode. It's the best mode period. Over the actual BR. And if you aren't using guns you're not used to then you're not going to improve. You will end up losing a lot of fights early if you just happen to get the 3030 and can't use it. So arguing that it's bad because you get guns you don't know how to use is pointless, just learn how to use them.
TDM sucks because every map right now is "Take high ground, snipe or camp." And that's so incredibly boring.
Got any separate heirlooms to gift? Only got 1 heirloom and been playing since s1
Did anyone else hit prestige and still not receive heirloom shards?
10 per bp well i will get 1 skin in 5 seasons😂
Considering I have had 150 heirloom shards sitting in my account for over a year and a half just gathering dust, this katar system was a no brainer for me. A universal melee weapon I can use on any legend and customize? Yes the customization may cost extra, but I can personalize a set for each legend and it’s honestly pretty cool
Pretty much this. People assume that you must pay the $50 off the bat rather than simply grinding through the pass or even forking over $10 when you have the chance to build through there.
I get that it's not lore related or provide some quip or banner, but when the devs are putting character specific heirlooms to the side for now due to the customization of the Katar, you really don't have much of a choice for people who play legends that have yet to get an heirloom, or when you have to switch legends.
@@arctictropic1147 I assume they will only add more sets as time goes on. Unless they decide to release another artifact with its own set, which I doubt. I think they’ll just be adding more katar sets with time
i just wnata free heirloom for alter and wraith, 700 hours, no heirloom
Is there anything to be said about duos ranked, i only have 1 friend
Hell no 50$ for a reskin isn’t justified for me
I’ve been playing apex since it dropped but these fans are so brainwashed it’s insane, no new guns anymore but nonstop overpriced heirlooms, reskins, and now the katar bs, like it’s highway robbery and these guys are like “ehh it’s not that bad”
I'm prestige 300 and still don't have any heirloom
im lvl 650 bought around 5 bp aslo bought some packs aswell still no heilroom btw that eventually sounds too far off to me
It is a very odd choice to still require heirloom shards to start this monetization expansion of the game. I hope they increase the chances of getting heirloom shards. Otherwise this was poorly done.
I like how ea is trying to do something, not the best buy something fresh, yet riot games is doing a 500$ skin for 1 champion about a real life human who can't a flying f about you, guys if you really want to give hate on monetizations, go and hate the 500$ skin and if you try to argue with me that the buster sword heirloom is expensive as well (atleast you can use that heirloom on all the characters) the buster sword costed 160$
I have spent maybe 60$ on Apex since season 5 when i started playing and it was for the battle passes and i had a few that i paid for by saving my coins from the previous battle passes. This game is definitely a money grab but the upside is at least most cosmetics and stuff dont change anything in the game other than maybe your finsher speed so no pay to win. I think their greedy as all get out and they will always find a way to make a quick million. I have an awesome idea though fix the actual game 😂
I'm like lol 800 1 heirloom 🙃
It’s 40 dollars it’s really not terrible for the better iron sights
Uhh I feel dumb asking this but what’s gacha?
Dont buy the reactives please we already messed up the heirlooms after the final fantasy event and now we wont get legend heirloom and dont want to loose the reactives from battle pass too 😢
It's too overpriced... Csgo and valerant
I have 450 shards I’m waiting for the vantage heirloom 😢😢 probably not gonna come until 2028
why can’t exotic shards come from packs