CLASSIC! On First Take, Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless argue about Brett Favre. I do not own this video, ESPN does. I uploaded this here for discussion purposes.
Why does Skip Bayless constantly rip Rodgers for the 2009 wildcard loss? He put up 40+ points. Everybody and their mother would put that game on the defense. Does anybody take this guy seriously?
@@GODISGREAT_12Who cares bout ya numbers forget the Super Bowl wins they both have only gotten to the Super Bowl once 😂😂😂😂foh tryna make it look like rodgers did a lot more than Brett there they both got the same resume point blank
@@realng1836 that statement let's me know you don't know much about football. It takes teams to win SBs. With your logic Eli is better than Dan Marino. 🤡 Aaron's a mile better than Brett. Go look at the numbers
Brett Favre may have cost the Vikings a Super Bowl with his intercepted throw, but he was the one that brought them to the NFC Conference Championship game with his miraculous, age defying performances throughout the season.
First player with 500 career touchdown passes,First player with 70,000 career passing yards,First player with 5,000 career pass completions,First player with 6,000 career pass completions,First player with 9,000 career pass attempts,First player with 10,000 career pass attempts,First player with 300 career interceptions,First quarterback with 200 consecutive starts,First quarterback with a win over all 32 teams in the league since expanding to 32 in 2002,
Rodgers was put on the bench by McCarthy. How many times do we have to go through this. Favre never had the Packers in a position where he could sit down for the final game. They were always fighting for a better seed in the playoffs.
How in the hell is Favre disrespecting Rodgers? "He should have won it sooner". I'd take that as a compliment if Favre means to say it as he thinks Rodgers was so good to win the title sooner then he did.
It wasn't even an insult towards A.Rod. He just mentioned that the team was very talented and was an honorable mention to his old team. I don't see anything out of bounds or "pathetic."
+flerper derper Not really. Brett Favre never helped Aaron Rodgers when Rodgers was his backup. And he kept doing the whole "I'm retiring... no wait no I'm not." at the end and A-Rod was THIS CLOSE to becoming a free agent and leaving the team. But finally the Packers said that it was enough and did not accept Brett Favre back. Best decision they ever made. They gave the kid a chance and he turned out to be the greatest QB to ever walk on a football field. And you KNOW Favre recognized that. That's why he never helped him. I can remember, as a Packers fan, my heart sinking when Packers announced that Favre was no longer their QB. I remember the terror of uncertainty. Then, I remember my joy when I saw Aaron Rodgers go to work. That man is a legend.
søren sko Not really. Pretty simple with the fact that he's catching up to the all time greats already and he's not even a third of the way through his career.
Logan Thomas Yeah... He is really playing great atm haha.. I know that he has done great the first part of his career but if he doesn't keep it up or doesn't play better in the playoffs, he isn't gonna go down as the GOAT. To say that he is the GOAT already is ridiculous. Especially in light of this year. I know that one year doesn't determine the overall greatness of a player but half a career doesn't either. And if he doesn't pick up his play then he can kiss the GOAT title goodbye... But I am not surprised that a Packers fan would say something like that...
no way dude.. he made a point of saying green bay when he left was the most talented team he'd played on. and that rodgers, with that team, should have been good enough to win with that team sooner than he did.
they both won their rings in their 6th year with the packers. rodgers 2005, 2006,2007,2008,2009,2010.. favre 1992,1993,1994,1995,1996,1997... given rodgers didn't play his first 3 years he still got to sit back and learn.. all the best qbs do that just like steve young watched joe montana. favre also went to back to back superbowls. unfortunatly lost to denver. rodgers may seem like a rookie or so but hes been in the league for a while hes already 28 going on 29. favres comments were sincere
Anyone else think he was actually giving some credit to Rodgers? He may have meant that with that team and a talent like him at QB, they should've won sooner...and they should have.
skip hit the nail on the head. he said the packers gave up 2-3 years worth of super bowl runs when favre left them. that's exactly what happened. 08 - Favre had the Jets as the afc fav at 8-3 after knocking off undef titans until he tore his shoulder. 09 - Favre takes another new team to within field goal range of a super bowl despite the bounties until they got the 12 men in the huddle call. in 08 the packers added even more talent - clay and finley - and it took them 2 more yrs before they won
I grew up watching him Steve Young, John Elway, Doug Flutie, and much more Qb's and none have done what he did or can even do what he does, granted ill agree only one Superbowl but , 5th most completions all time per game, 2nd most 25+ Td seasons, 2nd longest pass in Superbowl 81 yards to Sharpe, 4th most consecutive uninterrupted games with 2+ Td, 2nd most passer receiver Td combinations in a season, 2nd most seasons with 25+ Td, 2nd most Ap NFL MVP awards, 2nd Most consecutive seasons,20+ td,
NFL Career Passer Rating Leaders (Minimum 1500 pass attempts) 1. Aaron Rodgers 105.8 2. Peyton Manning 97.9 3. Philip Rivers and Steve Young 96.8 5. Tony Romo 96.3 6. Tom Brady 95.8 7. Drew Brees 95.1 8. Kurt Warner 93.7 9. Ben Roethlisberger 92.8 10. Joe Montana 92.3 11. Matt Ryan 90.7 12. Chad Pennington 90.1 13. Matt Schaub 89.8 14. Daunte Culpepper 87.8 15. Jeff Garcia 87.5 16. Cam Newton 86.8 17. Otto Graham 86.6 18. Dan Marino 86.4 19. Carson Palmer 86.3 20. Andy Dalton 86.1 21. Brett Favre and Trent Green 86.0 23. David Garrard 85.8 24. Donovan McNabb 85.6 25. Jay Cutler 85.3
Daniel Negus Dan Marino career completion percentage is under 60%.. His single-season passer rating was above 100 only one time in his career, the '84 season when he broke all the records & took the Dolphins to the Super Bowl. Beyond that, he only topped a single-season passer rating on 90 two other times.Compare that Steve Young, who led the NFL in passer rating 6 times, topping the 100 mark 5 of them, and only finished under 90 one time his whole career as a starter.
it was a compliment!!! Why is it such a big deal? He basically said: "I am so impressed w/Rodgers, that i am suprised he didn't win sooner". These guys all they do is talk.
Furthermore, he's talking about Farve throwing INTs at the end of every year in the playoffs, I would rather have my qb even making it to the playoffs then having one throw ints with a 6-10 record with no hopes of playoffs.
Yea. Brett could have handled it better, cause it seems like he retired after the non-pursuit of Moss. If you remember, after Moss signed with NE, day after Favre retired. There was a news article from a front office personnel that confirmed it. So Favre was rash in doing so, but to his point, TT wouldn't give him pieces. Now imagine u are Brett, and here Rodgers comes in and u drafted receivers, TE, lineman left and right for him. AND they already have top 5 offense. I'd be mad TOO.
Brett did make those comments. I remember the media session where he made that comment. I remember the ppl on nfl.com making fun of him, and then the packers go to the nfc championship. Guess Brett's always right. He did the same for Minny, and alot of ppl made fun of him saying they may not go to playoffs. Guess what? He did and was a bounty away from going to the Super Bowl.
I say Marino because Marino never won a super bowl, yet he's widely considered one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game. Anyways, not all players who win championships are the best at their position or even great players. Using the number of super bowls won is a crappy way of determining how great a player is.
All SNL needs is a guy who can do a good impersonation of Skip Bayless and they would be set in terms of skits where these two guys would just go at it with one another
I love it that the satellite feed between Skip & Smith is a few seconds so when Skip says something that would normally provoke emotion outta Smith immediately, it doesn't happen till seconds later when the moment already passed. Its weird but funny
I kinda felt like that was almost a compliment most talented team that would include Rodgers he's saying that they could have won it sooner which sounds like a good thing to me
Skip is right here. Ted did sacrifice the 08-09 season by getting rid of Favre! Had Favre stay I think that would had a shot at the Super Bowl. Rodger as Great as he become in 2008 that was his 1st season as a starter so it easy for the lack of experience of being able to get a Super Bowl team to the Super Bowl that way. Had Favre been starting that year it would have been different.
Funny how Bayless attacks Rodgers now about him supposedly being "cooky" or full of himself when Favre clearly was way more full of himself yet, Bayless defended Favre.
I miss the hell out of Favre. Statistically he was the best ever. He took chances, and that is probably why he only has one ring. Love him or hate him--he was my favorite player to watch. I'd take him in a foxhole anytime over Rodgers. If you hated Favre, it was because you feared what he could do to your team at any given moment. He was a throat cutter; he won and lost with that mentality.
I don't understand the argument. What they are both saying is right. As far a Favre being out of line? No; he was just saying Rodgers and the Packers team are really great, great enough to have had won a Super Bowl earlier. It's actually pretty classy of him.
I don't blame the receivers at all for moving on. Hell, if I had to work with someone with an ego the size of the damn country for so many years, I'd be glad when he left too. It's probably a breath of fresh air for them to be on a team with a guy who isn't all about himself.
To each his own opinion I guess. You really take what Stephen A. says into account. I remember him admitting that he just don't like Favre when Jay and Skip asked him. What Brett said was the truth. People say it as a knock, but he told the truth. The team went to NFC championship, and 6-10 the next season. I remember that season, while Brett started 8-3 in NY finishing 9-7 cause injury. He doesn't need ota. Why? He proved it with Minny, going to NFC championship, and looked good for NY.
it was a good situation offensively, but the defense was no where to be seen..special teams too. Rodgers had that team in winnable situations back in his first year.
I'm a big Rodger's fan, watch my pack every week, love this game to death. I think I have a pretty good idea about these "Rodger's, Favre", situations...Stephen A. Smith is completely right. Favre's comments were not useful or needed in anyway. He didn't need to say that that team was loaded, stop trying to defend yourself Favre...He was a great QB,but his dream of chasing stats and records got in the way of the team goal, of winning championships. Rodger's is a god of a QB, and Favre should
or Favre, or Nick, or what he tried to do with Donald. You gonna say Nick was done too? How about the fact that when Favre asked to get replacement for receivers, he gives him a lb and a qb (Although Rodgers is a BEAST). Let's not forget he literally told Favre that he could win with the receivers GB had at the time (2007). Yet, he drafts Jordy high in the 2nd, Finley, and then Cobb for Aaron. Why didn't he tell Aaron he could win with those same receivers? Now u wonder why Favre would be pissed
None of the points made by these guys address the substance of Brett's comments on the radio show. Brett was complimenting the quality of the Packers as a team. By expressing surprise that the Packers did not win a Super Bowl sooner, Brett was merely implying that the Packers were and continue to be a Championship caliber football team. That type of comment has nothing to do with Brett as a quarterback compared to Aaron Rodgers
Look. This wasn't even meant to be a heated argument. I usually don't argue against Packers fan (except the ones that think Favre turned his back on GB (the bandwagon ones)) because we support the same team. All I'm saying is that TT didn't end the relationship well because of the business ideals he has (which he doesn't seem to follow). For all the fans who got mad cause he went to minny, it's dumb. It's a business. Someone else wants you and you still want to play. Who wouldn't?
HECK YES!!!. Once I graduate, I would love to work at a city like Milwaukee. Being a realist, I doubt that Green Bay will have as much job opportunities. But Milwaukee would be a 2 hours drive which isn't tough to make on Sundays. I've actually met a couple of GB fans/residents here in MD. These 2 girls who are living in MD temporarily. Funny story is: 1st thing she told me when I said I was from K-zoo, 'Oh GJ is from there also. I love him so much. I'm mad he's married.' lol
...now let's take a deep breath and read slowly: "favre: surprised aaron rodgers didn't win title sooner". it can be interpreted two ways: 1. "rodgers should have won earlier when favre was still starting qb" - giving well deserved credit to himself, and 2. "rodgers should have won in the first two seasons after favre's departure" - also giving well deserved credit to rodgers at the same time. but the real genius of the comment is that both meanings are true and don't exclude each other!...
Casey Hayward I think will be a beast. Nick Perry (I HOPE will be a beast). Jerel Worthy was a steal if he produces anything like what he did for msu (even if he is a little inconsistent). I think the Packers are the clear favorite to win the whole damn thing. But seriously the D should look like this: DT: B.J., N.T. Worthy/Picket, RDT: Picket/Neal(after susp.) LBs: Clay, Perry, Smith, Bishop CBs: Williams, Hayward, Shields, Bush SS: Burnett(hands like FS) FS: Charles.
I never said he was, I only mentioned that he gave Sterling one of his Superbowl rings. He played for the Broncos and the Ravens. He finished his career with one more short stint with the Broncos, I believe.
I am the conclusion jumper yet you talk about Favre and texing lol again. Name your source, where was it reported Favre sent those pictures? plz tell me...again..I'll wait...
keep in mind Fan voting didnt exist when Favre won his SB. Not that Rodgers didn't deserve it, could have argued Jennings deserved it with the game he had 2 huge TD catches, and the huge catch in the 4th QT to put the Packers in FG range..Anyways, it played a factor. Yes, Howard on special teams was huuge, but even if he doesnt score those TDs on returns, I think the Pack still win that 96' sb.
Sure it's easy to talk in hindsight. I remember Rodgers throwing a few costly ints at the end of games during that 08 season. Remember ATL, HOU, Jacksonville? Again you don't know if that team wouldn't have won the SB. Didn't the Giants have more injuries this past year, and as I recall they won. Heck we did same in '10-'11. With Moss, the offense would have been capable.
Ok lets try to be a bit constructive here. Yeah Fave does sound a bit bitter, but when he says surprised he didn't do it sooner Rodgers best chance of winning the SB prior to 2010 season was 2009 season Rodgers was just on fire against the Cards. Plus he seems to play better in domes, its feasible to believe they could have beat New Orleans and its hard to believe Minnesota would have beaten them a third time. What stopped them was the Packers lousy defense.
He's still the same guy I saw when I was 7 years old after my father got me a Packers cap in 1996. Still a Packer's fan, but will ALWAYS be a Brett Favre fan for life. Let's be honest TT DID run him out. Packers fan that argue against it are simply STUPID. TT did the same to Nick Barnett, Javon, tried to do the same to Donald Driver also. Brett didn't want Javon gone. TT wanted Javon gone. Funny how TT refused an extension after an all-pro season, but gave Nelson an extension after ONE SB game.
What was "funny" about that? Nelson was going into the last year of his contract. Walker had two years left and was holding out. Not really "funny." Favre was then and still is a dick....who also sends dick picks to 20 year old female interns and takes a couple million from the poorst state in a welfare scam, BUT for THIS topic, it's 100 pct a shot at Rodgers. "Remember I said this was the MOST talented team I've been a part of? I'm surprised it took him this long with so much talent around him."
i think perry will be fine. after moving from DE to OLB we cant expect him to start dominating in camp right away. And he is also going up against bryan bulaga most of the time and hes a stud at RT. its too bad sherrod isnt healthy. i dont see him playing at all this year after coming off of a serious leg injury and not even practicing until mid august at the earliest
Never been to a game at Lambeau. I live in Maryland. Was born in Kalamazoo (same city as my boi GJ85), and my father went to WMU(same as GJ also). He's not really a FB fan, but when he did watch, it was the packers games he watched. So I just became a fan because of one hat my father gave me, and seeing a guy on T.V. behind center with a weird name I couldn't pronounce.
it can be interpreted either way......if it was anybody else saying it....but because of they way Brett Farve left Green Bay and him being Brett Farve..this is clearly a back-handed comment and him trying to get as much media attention as he possibly can (unleashing my inner Stephen A Smith)....
Stephen A Smith is hilarious! ...came out the gate firing
Brett Favre is an all time Great no doubt. However thank u Stephen a smith for having a mind of your own at espn.
Why does Skip Bayless constantly rip Rodgers for the 2009 wildcard loss? He put up 40+ points. Everybody and their mother would put that game on the defense. Does anybody take this guy seriously?
cuz bayless is an idiot I mean he said Rodgers wasn't good smh
HE SUCKS LOL
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crazy how 12 years later, they both have the same resume 😭😭😭
Huh??? My numbers say different 🤡
You must had a cardboard box for a television 😂😂
@@GODISGREAT_12Who cares bout ya numbers forget the Super Bowl wins they both have only gotten to the Super Bowl once 😂😂😂😂foh tryna make it look like rodgers did a lot more than Brett there they both got the same resume point blank
@@realng1836 that statement let's me know you don't know much about football. It takes teams to win SBs. With your logic Eli is better than Dan Marino. 🤡 Aaron's a mile better than Brett. Go look at the numbers
@realng1836 yeah and actually Favre's resume is a little bit better since he actually made it to another super bowl and Rodgers didn't
Brett Favre may have cost the Vikings a Super Bowl with his intercepted throw, but he was the one that brought them to the NFC Conference Championship game with his miraculous, age defying performances throughout the season.
Steven A. Smith = THE Undisputed King of Hyperbole... Skip Bayless = runner-up by a slim margin.
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Damn, Stephen A! Disrespecting the shit out of Brett Favre...
Stephen A. IS ON POINT! Love the realist approach to the debate!
"He already has a SB, he probably is gonna get another one"
That didn't age well
Has nothing to do with his play. Give him better teams
First player with 500 career touchdown passes,First player with 70,000 career passing yards,First player with 5,000 career pass completions,First player with 6,000 career pass completions,First player with 9,000 career pass attempts,First player with 10,000 career pass attempts,First player with 300 career interceptions,First quarterback with 200 consecutive starts,First quarterback with a win over all 32 teams in the league since expanding to 32 in 2002,
0:48 spoken like a true man
Rodgers was put on the bench by McCarthy. How many times do we have to go through this. Favre never had the Packers in a position where he could sit down for the final game. They were always fighting for a better seed in the playoffs.
How in the hell is Favre disrespecting Rodgers? "He should have won it sooner". I'd take that as a compliment if Favre means to say it as he thinks Rodgers was so good to win the title sooner then he did.
First quarterback to win a playoff game at 40+ years of age,First player with three consecutive most valuable player awards
I am now a Stephen Smith fan.
Daniel now a fan of who? How many football games did Smith win? You can't win nothing with a big mouth. He's nobody
+Louise Sturm
You can be a fan of an entertainer if you want to be. I'm pretty sure of it.
It wasn't even an insult towards A.Rod. He just mentioned that the team was very talented and was an honorable mention to his old team. I don't see anything out of bounds or "pathetic."
They're taking this too seriously, it wasn't a big deal. If anything he's being respectful and praising Rodgers and the team.
Did u not listen? "I am suprised that he didn't do it sooner" - SINCE the TEAM that Aaron "took over" was the best Favre had ever played on.
+flerper derper Not really. Brett Favre never helped Aaron Rodgers when Rodgers was his backup. And he kept doing the whole "I'm retiring... no wait no I'm not." at the end and A-Rod was THIS CLOSE to becoming a free agent and leaving the team. But finally the Packers said that it was enough and did not accept Brett Favre back. Best decision they ever made. They gave the kid a chance and he turned out to be the greatest QB to ever walk on a football field. And you KNOW Favre recognized that. That's why he never helped him. I can remember, as a Packers fan, my heart sinking when Packers announced that Favre was no longer their QB. I remember the terror of uncertainty. Then, I remember my joy when I saw Aaron Rodgers go to work. That man is a legend.
Logan Thomas ...the greatest QB to ever walk on a football field?
A bit premature don't u think? Lol....
søren sko Not really. Pretty simple with the fact that he's catching up to the all time greats already and he's not even a third of the way through his career.
Logan Thomas Yeah... He is really playing great atm haha..
I know that he has done great the first part of his career but if he doesn't keep it up or doesn't play better in the playoffs, he isn't gonna go down as the GOAT. To say that he is the GOAT already is ridiculous. Especially in light of this year. I know that one year doesn't determine the overall greatness of a player but half a career doesn't either. And if he doesn't pick up his play then he can kiss the GOAT title goodbye...
But I am not surprised that a Packers fan would say something like that...
"I'm surprised he hasn't won sooner."
Brett knew how good Aaron Rodgers was. This is no way an insult to Rodgers. If anything, a compliment.
Rodgers won a Super Bowl in his 3rd Year Starting.....
Sellot91 well I know Brett had and played very long before he won his first one and then he went to the back to back Super Bowls
no way dude.. he made a point of saying green bay when he left was the most talented team he'd played on. and that rodgers, with that team, should have been good enough to win with that team sooner than he did.
same, what game u goin to this year?
nice. do u follow the packers really closely? what do u think about this upcoming season?
o im sorry what channel is ur show on???? lemme know bro
agreed. do u ever go to lambeau?
they both won their rings in their 6th year with the packers. rodgers 2005, 2006,2007,2008,2009,2010.. favre 1992,1993,1994,1995,1996,1997... given rodgers didn't play his first 3 years he still got to sit back and learn.. all the best qbs do that just like steve young watched joe montana. favre also went to back to back superbowls. unfortunatly lost to denver. rodgers may seem like a rookie or so but hes been in the league for a while hes already 28 going on 29. favres comments were sincere
Anyone else think he was actually giving some credit to Rodgers? He may have meant that with that team and a talent like him at QB, they should've won sooner...and they should have.
skip hit the nail on the head. he said the packers gave up 2-3 years worth of super bowl runs when favre left them. that's exactly what happened. 08 - Favre had the Jets as the afc fav at 8-3 after knocking off undef titans until he tore his shoulder. 09 - Favre takes another new team to within field goal range of a super bowl despite the bounties until they got the 12 men in the huddle call. in 08 the packers added even more talent - clay and finley - and it took them 2 more yrs before they won
I grew up watching him Steve Young, John Elway, Doug Flutie, and much more Qb's and none have done what he did or can even do what he does, granted ill agree only one Superbowl but , 5th most completions all time per game, 2nd most 25+ Td seasons, 2nd longest pass in Superbowl 81 yards to Sharpe, 4th most consecutive uninterrupted games with 2+ Td, 2nd most passer receiver Td combinations in a season, 2nd most seasons with 25+ Td, 2nd most Ap NFL MVP awards, 2nd Most consecutive seasons,20+ td,
skips face at the start , wow funny shit
Stephen A. Smith saying Brett is pathetic is ridiculous.
NFL Career Passer Rating Leaders (Minimum 1500 pass attempts)
1. Aaron Rodgers 105.8
2. Peyton Manning 97.9
3. Philip Rivers and Steve Young 96.8
5. Tony Romo 96.3
6. Tom Brady 95.8
7. Drew Brees 95.1
8. Kurt Warner 93.7
9. Ben Roethlisberger 92.8
10. Joe Montana 92.3
11. Matt Ryan 90.7
12. Chad Pennington 90.1
13. Matt Schaub 89.8
14. Daunte Culpepper 87.8
15. Jeff Garcia 87.5
16. Cam Newton 86.8
17. Otto Graham 86.6
18. Dan Marino 86.4
19. Carson Palmer 86.3
20. Andy Dalton 86.1
21. Brett Favre and Trent Green 86.0
23. David Garrard 85.8
24. Donovan McNabb 85.6
25. Jay Cutler 85.3
Lol Jay Cutler
You laugh about cutler being there but numbers don't lie.
surprised at dan marino
Daniel Negus Dan Marino career completion percentage is under 60%.. His single-season passer rating was above 100 only one time in his career, the '84 season when he broke all the records & took the Dolphins to the Super Bowl. Beyond that, he only topped a single-season passer rating on 90 two other times.Compare that Steve Young, who led the NFL in passer rating 6 times, topping the 100 mark 5 of them, and only finished under 90 one time his whole career as a starter.
***** Passer rating is clearly a bullshit stat that means nothing when Matt Schaub and Chad Pennington are top of the NFL All Time List.
Rodgers > Favre Sorry Brett
TheHehe1223 sorry sir this season does not ever end or finish
Nah
Agreed
Besides from Tim Tebow, Skip Bayless knows his stuff.
it was a compliment!!! Why is it such a big deal? He basically said: "I am so impressed w/Rodgers, that i am suprised he didn't win sooner". These guys all they do is talk.
Furthermore, he's talking about Farve throwing INTs at the end of every year in the playoffs, I would rather have my qb even making it to the playoffs then having one throw ints with a 6-10 record with no hopes of playoffs.
Jeez, I love this Stephen A Smith guy......lmao
Yea. Brett could have handled it better, cause it seems like he retired after the non-pursuit of Moss. If you remember, after Moss signed with NE, day after Favre retired. There was a news article from a front office personnel that confirmed it. So Favre was rash in doing so, but to his point, TT wouldn't give him pieces. Now imagine u are Brett, and here Rodgers comes in and u drafted receivers, TE, lineman left and right for him. AND they already have top 5 offense. I'd be mad TOO.
Brett did make those comments. I remember the media session where he made that comment. I remember the ppl on nfl.com making fun of him, and then the packers go to the nfc championship. Guess Brett's always right. He did the same for Minny, and alot of ppl made fun of him saying they may not go to playoffs. Guess what? He did and was a bounty away from going to the Super Bowl.
I say Marino because Marino never won a super bowl, yet he's widely considered one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game. Anyways, not all players who win championships are the best at their position or even great players. Using the number of super bowls won is a crappy way of determining how great a player is.
All SNL needs is a guy who can do a good impersonation of Skip Bayless and they would be set in terms of skits where these two guys would just go at it with one another
I love it that the satellite feed between Skip & Smith is a few seconds so when Skip says something that would normally provoke emotion outta Smith immediately, it doesn't happen till seconds later when the moment already passed.
Its weird but funny
I kinda felt like that was almost a compliment most talented team that would include Rodgers he's saying that they could have won it sooner which sounds like a good thing to me
what year was this?
2011 little after the pack won sb 45
This is like Judge Judy in the NFL...
are u going to try to get to a game sometime?
He wasn't bashing Rodgers at all, just saying that Rodgers is good enough that he should have won it sooner
Stephen A is spot on!
Skip is right here. Ted did sacrifice the 08-09 season by getting rid of Favre! Had Favre stay I think that would had a shot at the Super Bowl. Rodger as Great as he become in 2008 that was his 1st season as a starter so it easy for the lack of experience of being able to get a Super Bowl team to the Super Bowl that way. Had Favre been starting that year it would have been different.
Funny how Bayless attacks Rodgers now about him supposedly being "cooky" or full of himself when Favre clearly was way more full of himself yet, Bayless defended Favre.
I miss the hell out of Favre. Statistically he was the best ever. He took chances, and that is probably why he only has one ring. Love him or hate him--he was my favorite player to watch. I'd take him in a foxhole anytime over Rodgers. If you hated Favre, it was because you feared what he could do to your team at any given moment. He was a throat cutter; he won and lost with that mentality.
IT took Rodgers 3 years starting to win a SB. Talk to Dan Fouts and Dan Marino about how easy it is to win a SB.
Lol Stephen A mocking Chris berman.
did u go to kalamazoo central high school? i love green bay!
It's hard to tell what he meant cause it can be taken 2 different ways. Favre should have explained it better.
1:05, I wanna smack Skip Bayless silly every time he has that look
I don't understand the argument. What they are both saying is right. As far a Favre being out of line? No; he was just saying Rodgers and the Packers team are really great, great enough to have had won a Super Bowl earlier. It's actually pretty classy of him.
And there was a facemask on that Rodgers turnover against the Cardinals that somehow wasn't called
I don't blame the receivers at all for moving on. Hell, if I had to work with someone with an ego the size of the damn country for so many years, I'd be glad when he left too. It's probably a breath of fresh air for them to be on a team with a guy who isn't all about himself.
To each his own opinion I guess. You really take what Stephen A. says into account. I remember him admitting that he just don't like Favre when Jay and Skip asked him. What Brett said was the truth. People say it as a knock, but he told the truth. The team went to NFC championship, and 6-10 the next season. I remember that season, while Brett started 8-3 in NY finishing 9-7 cause injury. He doesn't need ota. Why? He proved it with Minny, going to NFC championship, and looked good for NY.
37 touches and still 6 tds. That's very productive to me. Some guys on that team are paid more, and aren't that efficient. *cough* Finley *cough*
it was a good situation offensively, but the defense was no where to be seen..special teams too. Rodgers had that team in winnable situations back in his first year.
I'm a big Rodger's fan, watch my pack every week, love this game to death. I think I have a pretty good idea about these "Rodger's, Favre", situations...Stephen A. Smith is completely right. Favre's comments were not useful or needed in anyway. He didn't need to say that that team was loaded, stop trying to defend yourself Favre...He was a great QB,but his dream of chasing stats and records got in the way of the team goal, of winning championships. Rodger's is a god of a QB, and Favre should
bro this shit so funny i miss these times
or Favre, or Nick, or what he tried to do with Donald. You gonna say Nick was done too? How about the fact that when Favre asked to get replacement for receivers, he gives him a lb and a qb (Although Rodgers is a BEAST). Let's not forget he literally told Favre that he could win with the receivers GB had at the time (2007). Yet, he drafts Jordy high in the 2nd, Finley, and then Cobb for Aaron. Why didn't he tell Aaron he could win with those same receivers? Now u wonder why Favre would be pissed
funny brett also said the vikings were the best team he has ever played for :)
None of the points made by these guys address the substance of Brett's comments on the radio show. Brett was complimenting the quality of the Packers as a team. By expressing surprise that the Packers did not win a Super Bowl sooner, Brett was merely implying that the Packers were and continue to be a Championship caliber football team. That type of comment has nothing to do with Brett as a quarterback compared to Aaron Rodgers
lmao skip's face!!!
Look. This wasn't even meant to be a heated argument. I usually don't argue against Packers fan (except the ones that think Favre turned his back on GB (the bandwagon ones)) because we support the same team. All I'm saying is that TT didn't end the relationship well because of the business ideals he has (which he doesn't seem to follow). For all the fans who got mad cause he went to minny, it's dumb. It's a business. Someone else wants you and you still want to play. Who wouldn't?
HECK YES!!!. Once I graduate, I would love to work at a city like Milwaukee. Being a realist, I doubt that Green Bay will have as much job opportunities. But Milwaukee would be a 2 hours drive which isn't tough to make on Sundays. I've actually met a couple of GB fans/residents here in MD. These 2 girls who are living in MD temporarily.
Funny story is: 1st thing she told me when I said I was from K-zoo, 'Oh GJ is from there also. I love him so much. I'm mad he's married.' lol
...now let's take a deep breath and read slowly: "favre: surprised aaron rodgers didn't win title sooner". it can be interpreted two ways: 1. "rodgers should have won earlier when favre was still starting qb" - giving well deserved credit to himself, and 2. "rodgers should have won in the first two seasons after favre's departure" - also giving well deserved credit to rodgers at the same time. but the real genius of the comment is that both meanings are true and don't exclude each other!...
Casey Hayward I think will be a beast. Nick Perry (I HOPE will be a beast). Jerel Worthy was a steal if he produces anything like what he did for msu (even if he is a little inconsistent). I think the Packers are the clear favorite to win the whole damn thing. But seriously the D should look like this:
DT: B.J., N.T. Worthy/Picket, RDT: Picket/Neal(after susp.)
LBs: Clay, Perry, Smith, Bishop
CBs: Williams, Hayward, Shields, Bush
SS: Burnett(hands like FS)
FS: Charles.
Stephen A. Smith always spits truth while Skip Bayless sits there with the "Someone is finger poppin my butthole" face.
I never said he was, I only mentioned that he gave Sterling one of his Superbowl rings. He played for the Broncos and the Ravens. He finished his career with one more short stint with the Broncos, I believe.
I am the conclusion jumper yet you talk about Favre and texing lol again. Name your source, where was it reported Favre sent those pictures? plz tell me...again..I'll wait...
lmao Loved Stephen A Smith's laugh at 3:35
no one has ever dissed favre? you must live under a rock
keep in mind Fan voting didnt exist when Favre won his SB. Not that Rodgers didn't deserve it, could have argued Jennings deserved it with the game he had 2 huge TD catches, and the huge catch in the 4th QT to put the Packers in FG range..Anyways, it played a factor. Yes, Howard on special teams was huuge, but even if he doesnt score those TDs on returns, I think the Pack still win that 96' sb.
I'm amazed these two guys haven't killed each other
Sure it's easy to talk in hindsight. I remember Rodgers throwing a few costly ints at the end of games during that 08 season. Remember ATL, HOU, Jacksonville? Again you don't know if that team wouldn't have won the SB. Didn't the Giants have more injuries this past year, and as I recall they won. Heck we did same in '10-'11. With Moss, the offense would have been capable.
Actually it was the 96 team and they had the #1 special teams too.
i interpreted favre's comments as a praise toward rodgers, but obviously stephen a-hole doesn't see it that way
finley had 8 TDs and over 700 yards. he was resigned because of his talent and potential and hes a rare breed at tight end/WR
Classic first take moment
The sad part about it,Brett Favre did thing he was against and nobody called him out on it.......
4 (Packers uniform) + 4 (Jets uniform) + 4 (Vikings uniform) = 12 (Packers uniform)
that nonsense made Skip literally have the who farted face the entire segment lmaooo
Haha this is like TH-cam comments in real life
You obviously never watched the same Rodgers as I do because last time i checked, Rodgers wasn't on trial for sex harassment..
Ok lets try to be a bit constructive here. Yeah Fave does sound a bit bitter, but when he says surprised he didn't do it sooner Rodgers best chance of winning the SB prior to 2010 season was 2009 season Rodgers was just on fire against the Cards. Plus he seems to play better in domes, its feasible to believe they could have beat New Orleans and its hard to believe Minnesota would have beaten them a third time. What stopped them was the Packers lousy defense.
Hell, ask Favre how hard it is. Cant beleive he of all people would say this.
I want to mess Stephen A. Smith up for dissing Favre!!!!
He's still the same guy I saw when I was 7 years old after my father got me a Packers cap in 1996. Still a Packer's fan, but will ALWAYS be a Brett Favre fan for life. Let's be honest TT DID run him out. Packers fan that argue against it are simply STUPID. TT did the same to Nick Barnett, Javon, tried to do the same to Donald Driver also. Brett didn't want Javon gone. TT wanted Javon gone. Funny how TT refused an extension after an all-pro season, but gave Nelson an extension after ONE SB game.
What was "funny" about that? Nelson was going into the last year of his contract. Walker had two years left and was holding out. Not really "funny."
Favre was then and still is a dick....who also sends dick picks to 20 year old female interns and takes a couple million from the poorst state in a welfare scam, BUT for THIS topic, it's 100 pct a shot at Rodgers. "Remember I said this was the MOST talented team I've been a part of? I'm surprised it took him this long with so much talent around him."
i think perry will be fine. after moving from DE to OLB we cant expect him to start dominating in camp right away. And he is also going up against bryan bulaga most of the time and hes a stud at RT. its too bad sherrod isnt healthy. i dont see him playing at all this year after coming off of a serious leg injury and not even practicing until mid august at the earliest
You forgot the "A.".
brett favre: take notes from 0:48-1:00
Never been to a game at Lambeau. I live in Maryland. Was born in Kalamazoo (same city as my boi GJ85), and my father went to WMU(same as GJ also). He's not really a FB fan, but when he did watch, it was the packers games he watched. So I just became a fan because of one hat my father gave me, and seeing a guy on T.V. behind center with a weird name I couldn't pronounce.
Sephen A. Smith 3:26 LMFAO HAHAHAHA
it can be interpreted either way......if it was anybody else saying it....but because of they way Brett Farve left Green Bay and him being Brett Farve..this is clearly a back-handed comment and him trying to get as much media attention as he possibly can (unleashing my inner Stephen A Smith)....
ive been to training camp a few times. its a great experience
good call. i just hope we have a good pass rush. with that the DB's will be fine