Part One: Nestor Makhno: Anarchist Warlord and Book Club Aficionado | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
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Part One: Nestor Makhno: Anarchist Warlord and Book Club Aficionado | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
Robert is joined by Jamie Loftus to discuss Nestor Makhno, our 2020 holiday non-bastard episode
Original Air Date: December 23, 2020
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Jamie keeps describing Nestor like some sort of Saiyan from DBZ that keeps growing a spikier longer golden beard each time his anarchist power level increases.
Thats how anarchism works.
I'm so happy Makhno's getting attention! A true hero, not just for what he himself did but how he inspired and encouraged others to be free. Warlord is an odd term to use considering he was very anti-authoritarian and encouraged anarchist free-thought and collective self-management in every village he liberated and didn't like the fact that he had to form an army to achieve his goals "armies cannot be anarchist" is one of his quotes. But I'm excited to dive in to this episode.
I'm hearing "warlord" as a translation of "batko" (in its military context). Part of Skirda's thesis in "Anarchy's Cossack" is that one of the roles Makhno is acting out is that of a traditional Cossack military leader (though obviously he had his own take on that), and I think that's what Robert is referring to when he calls Makhno a "warlord."
Strange how comfortable he was with establishing a military secret police and ordering them to execute people who disagreed with him, including journalists.
"Warlord" is still the appropriate title. He is the guy that they followed into battle, he organized them.
"Anarchist Commander" seems just as contradictory ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Warlord is such a dope title! But not your typical warlord for sure
Big ups for the honesty in ommiting the "daddy" subterfuge.
oh i was so scared by the title thank god it’s a reverse episode
"Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks" is the painting they mention, I believe. It is pretty rad, and there is a laughing Santa in it, though he did shave his beard.
I mean to be fair, Makhno was quite far from the general warlord. There are record of him becoming quite angry at his associates when they assumed something was fine just because he said so, without questioning it. There are also examples of the Kontrrazvedka explicitly disobeying him to instead do what they viewed as correct, like a time when they decided that maintaining the freedom of the press was more important than following orders. Then with how as well the local cities werent run by any military governors fiercely loyal to Makhno but rather by free soviets with local representatives. Though i see the point of still applying the label, it was significantly more horizontal (even within the army) than the title of warlord would imply.
Exactly. Haven't watched the episode yet, but warlord is an odd term to use to describe a reluctant military commander who encouraged people to be free-thinkers and self-manage their communities.
Wow. That's incredible!
Strange how Volin paints a picture which is completely the opposite of what you said. I guess eyewitness testimony has nothing compared to a person who living a century later who wants to deify Makhno.
@@jessl1934I trust Bolshevik sources on Mahkno even less than I trust Columbia University about Ulysses S Grant
@@E-Brightvoid Volin wasn't a Bolshevik though 🤷♂️
Maybe get your facts straight and do the reading before you go making outrageous claims next time. You'll be less likely to make a fool of yourself if you do that.
@@jessl1934 so I take it, based on your second reply in this thread, your first comment is meant to be passive aggressive and/or sarcastic?
Genuinely asking for clarification on how to read that, I'm tired.
Mommy Anarchy Loves Her Littles 😩
@@MacronsKitten probably more of an overlap than I would want to admit…
"I had the worst calamari of my life there (Ukraine), but it wasn't a war zone!"
Jesus fucking Christ how this has changed....
I think he said "was in" and not "wasn't". He said he had it in Konstiantynivka, which is in the Donetsk Oblast and was captured for a time in 2014 by pro-Russian separatists at the start of the war in the Donbas.
yeah he specifically said "was in." thats why he mentioned later he'll have to go back when theyre not in a war and try calamari again
Landlords haven't changed much...just what they're legally allowed to do because of peoples' resistance over the years reigning in the power of those elites.
Ah yes, the Property Is Theft Brothers
15:39
Well there's your problem. You gotta divide your capitalist power structure on racial and ethnic lines if you want it to last.
The Wizard of Oz came out before White Christmas, and it was in color.
I brought him back. Good, my job is almost done on this sense.
Don't de-daddy my stories for me!
I'm confused. Wasn't the Russo-Japanese War actually started by Japan when it executed a surprise attack on the Russian East Sea Fleet at Port Arthur, on Feb. 8th 1904, and then declared war three hours later, with Russia only declaring war 8 days later. Furthermore there was actual pressure from the Japanese people at the time demanding a more aggressive foreign policy. At 40:12 it sounds as if Russia randomly went to war for no reason.
I mean Russia kind of did. You’re ignoring the reason for the Japanese public hostilities towards Russia. 1) A territory in the liandong province was won from China in a war by Japan yet it was given to the Russians by China. 2) When Japan sent delegations to Germany and Russia they were ignored and treated with contempt due to racism and political machinations of Russian German and French. 3) the Czar had men act as lumberjacks so they at the same time could build a Foward operating base and do scouting at the Yalu river. The Yalu river at the time was the border of Imperial Japan. The Japanese took the racism,the one sidedly dismissive diplomacy, and the Russians very obviously building a base on japans border as the prelude to an invasion. Thus Japan stuck first. It’s funny because apparently Russian military high command was against the Yalu river operation because he knew it would further a flame the tensions with Japan. But racism somewhat made the Czar think the Japanese weren’t enough to catch on to his scheme
Some of these facts aren’t exactly accurate, but I guess you got the essence. The best way to determine biographical facts about him is reading his own writing and the writings of his closest friends and allies.
The Nestor Makhno museum in Huliapole was burned down by the Russian Army
August 24th 2024
You threw up at Dark Fucking Crystal!?
DOES JAIME KNOW YOU LIED ROBERT
1:22:40
9:58 yet...
No other pod ever mentions baby beards and anarchist decor.
@@lokasenna833 CrimethInc lost all my respect when during the week where German police were violently expelling the last climate activists from Lützerath they decided their time was better spent ignoring that in favour of whining that 'online activism is dead' and that anarchists should start doing real life activism, because they, specifically, got banned from Twitter.
Which, you know, betrays that they thought other anarchists weren't doing real life activism just because they weren't. And also betrays pretty clearly that they wanted their readership to get off social media because they were afraid that if some other anarchist publication was still on twitter while they weren't, they'd lose marketshare. Which is a pretty fucking capitalist mindset for a supposedly Anarchist publication.
I can't stand anti-Pynchon slander!
40:35
deconstructing white identity!
Otoh, back then, couldn't you just kinda marry a 12 year old girl if that what you really wanted?