Came here bc looking at the Relay which reviewers keep saying rides a lot like the Spire. Great review. I wish they had it in your build, but at least they have a build with TRP brakes. Jot as concerned about SRAM drivetrain since it has a motor. I’m 5’10” on a Santa Cruz Bronson V3 XL with a 485 reach- I sized up bc I wanted it to lean more all mountain/ enduro and bike park than trail, and I love the extra length in that kind of terrain. Put some shorter cranks and a 35 mm stem with a 30 mm riser bar and fits like a charm. Like you say, can def get used to longer bike on slower stuff and on steeps and at speed it rips. Cheers. 🤙
Hi. Really enjoyed the video. I’m looking to upgrade from my Giant Trance X 29er. I love my Giant but am looking for something with a little lore travel. I was thinking about the Spire or the Patrol. Just wondering if you’ve got any suggestions.
I think the Spire would be a great option for a bit more travel. As far as verse the Patrol, it kinda depends on your height, the terrain, and how you like to ride. If you like the dual 29er then it’s hard to argue against.
Would you recommend this bike for say, going off a moderate sized drop with a landing that’s less steep than you originally judged without then going OTB?
I have a wreckoning now, which is really a quiver killer in my book for big pedals and the travel to go about anywhere. But I was always a fan of my 2 sentinels prior to the evil so now looking to get back into a transition but opting for the burlier spire. What’s overall comparison compared to wreckoning for reference?
I'd agree with that, my V2 is still my favorite dual 29 enduro bike. The Spire climbs better and the slacker head angle and longer wheelbase make for a very calm and stable bike. Larger jumps and moves where you just need to hold on are definitely a strong suit. The Evil is more nimble and jumps with ease. I think its a bit more fun on mellower trails and overall the suspension tracks smoother and has a ton of control.
@@NICADV thanks for the reply! I'm coming off a '16 Transition Patrol, which seemed a little more comparable in numbers to the M Spire. I also talked to guy at Transition and his feed helped me go with a M as I'm on the east coast and will be more flat and techy climbs than I will be racing DH lines. Hopefully I don't regret the M lol.
@brycerenkiewicz1821 I'm 5'10" and 5'11" on a good day lol I am looking at getting the spire. I'm thinking medium ad that's what my giant trance x is. How is your medium? If you have got it yet?
Since you're the same height as I am. Could you tell me how high your saddle is? You said you've mounted a 210 dropper. I have a 213mm dropper and wonder, if that would even fit.
Have you ridden the Pivot Firebird and if so which did you prefer? I have the Transition Relay and love it but want a new non-eBike to replace and old Stumpjumper. Thanks!
I have not ridden the current Firebird but have ridden the current Switchblade. If you like the suspension feel of the Relay it is generally more plush feeling especially under power than DW link Pivots I have ridden.
I've had both the Firebird and the Spire. The Firebird was the better climber/all-rounder; the Spire better at speed. Ended up selling the Firebird, because the Spire was just more fun.
@@matthewferrier9675hi Im 180 cm with short legs and i ride firebird 2023 size M and fit well I want move to spire carbone size M too Do u think its too short ? I want à playful bike more race bike
I rode it in Whistler full 29 and it was great! As a mullet the BB will be very low even in the high position. I'd probably recommend going with the Patrol and you can easily bump the travel to 170 front and rear.
I would definitely recommend XL. You could make it work either way, but especially at your height and weight the longer seat tube and taller head tube will be nice.
Fellow Spire rider here. Nice review, and great ability on the bike. Love my Spire. Surprisingly adept at many things, despite the overall size.
Thanks!
Came here bc looking at the Relay which reviewers keep saying rides a lot like the Spire. Great review. I wish they had it in your build, but at least they have a build with TRP brakes. Jot as concerned about SRAM drivetrain since it has a motor. I’m 5’10” on a Santa Cruz Bronson V3 XL with a 485 reach- I sized up bc I wanted it to lean more all mountain/ enduro and bike park than trail, and I love the extra length in that kind of terrain. Put some shorter cranks and a 35 mm stem with a 30 mm riser bar and fits like a charm. Like you say, can def get used to longer bike on slower stuff and on steeps and at speed it rips. Cheers. 🤙
Thanks and yes, it’s definitely nice to see the TRP brakes and nicer suspension on the PNW builds.
Hi. Really enjoyed the video. I’m looking to upgrade from my Giant Trance X 29er. I love my Giant but am looking for something with a little lore travel. I was thinking about the Spire or the Patrol. Just wondering if you’ve got any suggestions.
I think the Spire would be a great option for a bit more travel. As far as verse the Patrol, it kinda depends on your height, the terrain, and how you like to ride. If you like the dual 29er then it’s hard to argue against.
Would you recommend this bike for say, going off a moderate sized drop with a landing that’s less steep than you originally judged without then going OTB?
Asking for a friend
For sure, the slack head angle helps 😉
I prefer a headtube angle that works hard
@@tylertruksa1378 what a slacker
Great review!!
Thanks!
Great review and sensational sends. Subbed!
Thanks, I'm always trying to find some good sends!
I have a wreckoning now, which is really a quiver killer in my book for big pedals and the travel to go about anywhere.
But I was always a fan of my 2 sentinels prior to the evil so now looking to get back into a transition but opting for the burlier spire. What’s overall comparison compared to wreckoning for reference?
I'd agree with that, my V2 is still my favorite dual 29 enduro bike.
The Spire climbs better and the slacker head angle and longer wheelbase make for a very calm and stable bike. Larger jumps and moves where you just need to hold on are definitely a strong suit.
The Evil is more nimble and jumps with ease. I think its a bit more fun on mellower trails and overall the suspension tracks smoother and has a ton of control.
As always! Good review!
Thanks dude, see you out on the trails!
Fellow 5’11” here. Would you recommend sizing down to a M or sticking with the L?
Probably a large but it depends a bit on what you want from the bike or what your current bike looks like.
@@NICADV thanks for the reply! I'm coming off a '16 Transition Patrol, which seemed a little more comparable in numbers to the M Spire. I also talked to guy at Transition and his feed helped me go with a M as I'm on the east coast and will be more flat and techy climbs than I will be racing DH lines. Hopefully I don't regret the M lol.
@brycerenkiewicz1821 I'm 5'10" and 5'11" on a good day lol I am looking at getting the spire. I'm thinking medium ad that's what my giant trance x is. How is your medium? If you have got it yet?
Gives you the confidence to descend!! While he is slamming on the break’s saying how do I not crash😅
😂
Yeah buddy. Nice riding.
Thanks, I'm up in Squamish next week if you have any recommendations.
Since you're the same height as I am. Could you tell me how high your saddle is? You said you've mounted a 210 dropper. I have a 213mm dropper and wonder, if that would even fit.
74cm middle bb to top of saddle
@@NICADV thanks a lot. I usually have 76 cm.
@@harzenduro happy to help
Have you ridden the Pivot Firebird and if so which did you prefer? I have the Transition Relay and love it but want a new non-eBike to replace and old Stumpjumper. Thanks!
I have not ridden the current Firebird but have ridden the current Switchblade. If you like the suspension feel of the Relay it is generally more plush feeling especially under power than DW link Pivots I have ridden.
I've had both the Firebird and the Spire. The Firebird was the better climber/all-rounder; the Spire better at speed. Ended up selling the Firebird, because the Spire was just more fun.
@@matthewferrier9675 agreed, the Spire is a ton of fun!
@@matthewferrier9675hi
Im 180 cm with short legs and i ride firebird 2023 size M and fit well
I want move to spire carbone size M too
Do u think its too short ? I want à playful bike more race bike
@@mikeborges31 I've ridden the medium and do prefer the large but the medium will fit fine.
What stem length did you have on the spire?
@@dtran1742 40mm Anvl with 5mm of rise
Do you think it climbs better than the wreckoning
I do, with the steeper seat tube your weight is more centered and over the front wheel
Hi! Could be annoption por bikepark use as mullet? If yes probably still better running in Hi position ?
Thanks
I rode it in Whistler full 29 and it was great! As a mullet the BB will be very low even in the high position. I'd probably recommend going with the Patrol and you can easily bump the travel to 170 front and rear.
Question. I’m 6’2 240 would you recommend large or XL? Thanks 🙏
I would definitely recommend XL. You could make it work either way, but especially at your height and weight the longer seat tube and taller head tube will be nice.
@@NICADV thank you!!!
Where were those sick jumps at?
All over Washington and Squamish, BC