THIS is why I still buy vinyl records...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ย. 2022
- People ask me why I buy music instead of just streaming it. I like streaming music but here are 4 reasons (other than sound) on why I prefer to keep buying records. This is a long one but I show a couple of vinyl record hauls from recent trips to different antique and record stores.
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What do you tell folks when they ask you why you keep buying records?
Cover art and sweet gatefolds are what keep me coming back to vinyl.
That the plastic I invest in is actually Gold.
I’m a dumb ass.
The artwork. Especially albums that open up to give you a 12 by 24 inch feast for the eyes. Sweet, " off the record" album opens to reveal a turntable. A ZZ Top album opens and shows a tex-mex meal and cold beer and it puts a smile on your face. Grateful to have kept my vinyl for 49 years.
I like records.
Finding a record on your wantlist in the wild, especially something rare or out print is the best.
Totally agree! The best feeling. Thanks for watching!
💯 happens to me a handful of times
Until it's repressed.
While buying records, I can remember where or when I bought each album as well as the conversations I had with fellow collectors or curious onlookers contemplating whether or not to venture into vinyl and no one has that same experience with streaming.
"Hey, remember the time I streamed that album and played it through my headphones or Bluetooth speaker?" said no one ever. There are no stories to tell when it comes to streaming. :)
Haha yes! Great point
Great video. At the end of the day, streaming music is renting the music. You OWN music on physical media!!!
Excellent point as well. Thank you for watching!
New subscriber here. I totally agree about searching for records. I never know what I want until I discover it. I’ve found so many gems I have only heard of,or never even heard of before. That’s why I haunt my local Goodwills, thrift stores, antique malls etc. It’s always a pleasant surprise when someone recognizes you from your videos. I’ve made a number of friends, local and worldwide through my videos on the VC. Looking forward to checking out some of your other videos. Thanks for sharing and Peace !
Thank you for watching and the kind words. Just subbed to you as well! I love a good long day of hunting for records as you mention!
The thrill of the hunt. That’s what it is my friend. Sounds creepy but there’s something about spotting a record in a surprising spot. I found Tammy Wynette’s Greatest Hits at the Brimfield Antique festival a few years back. When I play it it reminds me of where I picked it up.
Very well said, thank you!
My favourite part of collecting is just browsing through hundreds of records in a small record store. The music in the background seeing other people browsing their interests and discovering some of my own. It's such a calm setting, especially going home to listen to the new ones I pick up.
Agreed. Thank you for watching!
Great video I agree with all 4 reasons why we buy vinyl especially the community part ,where I live in Devon England we have 2 small record shops that I love to support and look forward to every Saturday when we meet up for a chat & talk music. All the best Rob from Teignmouth.
That’s awesome Rob, thank you!
Streaming services are great to try out stuff to see if you want to buy it.
Yes. Great point! Thank you for watching!
I couldn't agree with you more! You explain it perfectly :)
Thank you!
This was an excellent, sincere, understandable sharing of thoughts. Terrific Content, pleasing !! 🎩✌️⛳️🏌💿
Thank you!
Love the Minor Threat artwork on the wall
It’s by an artist named Nathan McKee!
@@ForeverAnalog awesome. Had the Minor Threat comp CD since the late 90s. Recently picked up a nice blue vinyl of the 1st album. Super happy w the sound and fidelity. Cheers. Will be going through your older videos and checking out new ones
Might be your best vid, yet! It's all about the community for me, too.
Thank you, sir! Hope everything is going great for you!!!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I am a big vinyl fan and buyer. I agree with your supporting of local Businesses. I have been buying records since 1966. Wish you all the best.
Thank you for watching, Steve!
I just recently picked up a couple 70’s Sesame Street records. Silly but so nostalgic!
We have several ourselves!
Great video. The curating aspect is important.
Thank you, curating has become crucial for me due to space issues, lol!
Great video man! After I started collecting it's been interesting to hear other collectors philosophize about the hobby and it's just reassured me how it's "my thing", and I should honor it (At one point I thought I was overspending and It was ridiculous, but no! )
Ps: Show us those early emo, hardcore, and punk records! Not many videos are showing off those gems! All the best from Chile.
- JP.
Love this. Thank you. I’ll get emo very soon I promise!
@@ForeverAnalog haha sounds good boss ;) Btw awesome Minor Threat illustration!
@@juanpablorb7150 thank you. It’s by the artist Nathan McKee!
I've nothing against people that like streaming for the convenience, but one can't beat the experience of hunting for records (or other physical media), being inspired by the cover art or intrigued by the liner notes, and enjoying the tactile satisfaction of holding a record in one's hand, placing it on the turntable, and watching it come alive as it spins.
Vinyl is KING. :)
Agree!!!!!
Bam subscribed! Well done sir
Thank you for watching!
Key words record store.All I have is Wal -Mart and they do now have vinyl. Man I miss the city with the head shops. Big D.
For me one of the greatest things about collecting simply is discovering music. You can dive so deep into all teh cover art, who played on all those records, read liner notes and lyrics all while listening. I regularly go to my local store and just browse through all the records. Sometimes you find a record with a great cover, a great title or whatever. And that way you expand your "musical language" and basically - or at least for me - change your view on the world. I have noticed that Ive been more and more open not only regarding new and different music but also regarding new people!
But you are absolutely right in every aspect. Hunting for music and expanding a collection, holding the albums in your hand is just unbeatable. You OWN the music, no one can take that away from you.
I find so many interesting albums that I've never heard of just due to interesting album art!
I met my wife at the Princeton Record Exchange 23 years ago! I was working there and she came in as a customer. Keith Jarrett used to come into the store all the time. FYI
What a great story about meeting your wife. Thanks for sharing!
My father was a Music Distributor in the 1960's. Today I have 2000+ vinyl albums. I got most for free, but I too love record stores.
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Vinyl hunting is like being a kid in that candy shop feeling.
100% agree!!!! That was me yesterday, finding great things I hadn't thought of in years!
Only a lot more expensive and with free scratches thrown in.
I been collecting since 1978. You brought up lot a good points. Record collecting has been a high point in my life. I have made friends, met girlfriends and met some very cool people at record stores. Helpful hint to you young collectors. If your better half complains about your passion, you chose wrong.........oh, and I've never had a jazz phase.
Thanks for sharing and watching!
I tell them "I like to buy records". for me it's the chatting with collectors and store owners. I am also going back to selling at record fairs (shows). i used to regularly sell at fairs, but family illnesses stopped me from continuing it. Now that everything has changed (Unwell persons passed) I am going back to it. I have never streamed; I prefer to have the outer sleeve and the vinyl.
Thanks for watching and the nice comment!
Love this! Literally went through the same thing today 5:25 with a Stephen Bishop album. Credits included Chaka Khan and Eric Clapton. All for 2.99? Literally can not go wrong!
When I'm buying an album , I will try to find it on utube to give the tracks a quick listen before I pick it up.
Awesome!
Nicely done........ 🍎
Thank you for watching!
Local, and private press records, and CD's are in abundance in thrift stores, and are scarce on streaming services. There are many undiscovered albums out there, in the physical world.
Yep. The stack of records I’m holding in the thumbnail for this video contained a few rare private press gospel soul releases! Found them all at a local thrift store.
First video I've seen on your channel and noticed the stylized B-Boys picture just out of frame, need to know where you got that.... Love it!
Thanks you! It’s by Nathan McKee and he sells prints online!
@@ForeverAnalog Thanks! Really cool, also really digging the video!
@@BigClarkDogg thank you so much!
I see that Hammered Hulls record down front! Cheers from Lexington KY.
It’s sooooooooo good. I love it. Thanks for watching!
I also enjoy the experience of rummaging around in record shops . I have discovered awesome music by watching the vinyl community on TH-cam and then going out to buy the record. I order some albums online but scrolling down lists on the streaming services is really boring . I actually do much of my record buying with my bicycle and streaming is zero exercise so there is an added benefit with actual record shopping . The good records will last many generations and only the terrible records will end up in landfills so my records probably won't end up polluting the environment.
Agree. Thank you for watching!
You can't beat buying records, period! Streaming is not the only way to search for music. You can do both, but the experience of finding records is that exciting.
I totally agree. Thank you for watching!
@@ForeverAnalog you're welcome!
Especially when you use a moving coil cartridge. BTW, good cassette tapes sound astounding played on vintage decks like Pioneer, Sansui, Akai etc which have had the tape heads cleaned gently with q tips and isopropyl alcohol, demagnetized and lubed with tape head lube and head aligned. Magic.
I have a video about my entry level Nakamichi deck on my channel as I love cassettes too!
@@ForeverAnalog I'll check it out. Thanks. Nakamichi decks were engineering marvels. Pity they've gone down a hole.
I still have the Tom Tom Club album and is still in like new condition. It was played at the clubs constantly. Good old days.
Awesome. I love the album and was excited to finally find the LP!
Enjoyed the video thanks 👌 what are the best vinyl oriented "online communities" you have joined? I am interested in joining a group or two to see what people are buying and commenting/sharing all things LP ! Thanks
Sometimes there are Facebook groups that are local but I also simply follow a lot of people on Instagram or TH-cam and enjoy watching what they post from their collection!
I agree with pretty much everything you said here. The personal element of buying records in stores cannot be duplicated by streaming services. Also, there is a large amount of vinyl out there that cannot be found at all online, even if you search for it. Probably in many cases it has never been digitized at all. Another reason which has always been important to me is long-term preservation. It is hard to predict what will happen in the future, but it seems likely that at some point down the line, most or all of the digital files we have now, as well as CDs, will be unplayable. To listen to vinyl, all they would really need to understand is the concept of putting a needle on a record and having it spin, and the basic sound could probably be retrieved from many records centuries from now. Obviously very few records would ever make it that far in any kind of playable condition, but some probably will.
Great points, thank you!
HELL YES, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE HUNT FOR RECORDS IN GENERAL. WEATHER THEY'RE RARE OR THE SAME STUFF U SEE ANYWHERE ELSE.... THAT'S THE RUSH IN IT!!!! IF YOU HAVE THE LOVE FOR THIS SHIT YOU'LL FIND THAT ONE RECORD IN ANY SHAPE AND COP THAT....AND YOU PRODUCERS KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. IF U ARE A LOVER OF SAMPLE BASED HIP HOP AND YOU'RE A "DIGGER" OF BEATS....THEN THERE IT IS.
Thanks, Tony. I'm always blown away by producers that can take a small sample from an obscure record and make a beat out of it!
I've been collecting records since I bought Nancy Sinatra- Country My Way in 1967. The feeling of shopping, looking, hunting, spotting, and ultimately finding records then bringing them home to clean and finally play while you look at the lyrics and cover art, can't be rivaled by streaming. But for convenience, I do still stream music and play it on my phone and sometimes connected to a Bluetooth speaker.
And it's ok but not nearly the same because it doesn't sound very good
and it's not really that much fun. 😊
Just subscribed.
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Thank you so much, Alan!
@@ForeverAnalog 🦓
With vinyl, CDs and even cassette, you are actually invested in the music. It means something to you even if you end up disliking it. Hell, I still think about a record I bought back in 1979 based off of one radio single that turned out to be horrible. What a waste of my weekly allowance!
With streaming, the music is disposable. Yes people enjoy it on a superficial level, but think of the last song you streamed and didn't like. Do you even remember what artist it was? The stuff you like AT BEST gets put on a playlist. Whoop de doo.
Great point thank you!
I went to a thrift store yesterday and I got Stevie Ray Vaughan, Johnny Winter and Slade albums for 5 bucks each. Spotify is great for making play lists but hunting for cheap vinyl is fun.
Excellent finds!
I really ran into a quandary when searching records from my misspent youth : Finding anything like a “James Gang” album, featuring Tommy Bolin. Found one, though, “Miami”. Will keep looking for “Bang”.
I joked with my local record store manager the other day that it will take me YEARS to find a specific album and then once I finally find it, I will start seeing it EVERYWHERE in stores, ha. It's funny how that works...thanks for watching!
Good evening I am twenty years older than you. And yet I am going through the same experiences. and my purchases at my record store. I found concerts by keit jarret...solo...and Miles davis in Japan, which is a marvel md in Tokyo.
Awesome finds. Thank you for watching and for sharing!
I am the complete opposite to yourself, I haven’t brought a vinyl album for over 30 years. I have over 2,000 albums and maybe 3,000 singles I got between the years 1962 to 1990 or so. It mostly comes down to lifestyle that we have, right now I’am living in Thailand and my collection is in London, so buying vinyl is not happening. But I guess You Tube keeps me entertained with the vinyl community, it’s sorta like feeling the need that I can’t do anymore 😊. Though I must admit Bangkok does have some unique record stores that have vinyl you wouldn’t see in western countries! I’ve got that Minnie Riperton and Aretha Franklin albums, also I have the original Otis Redding debut album Pain in my Heart which was always impossible to find, even in the 1970’s
Yeah, a good counter to my argument will always be anyone who simply doesn't have the space for storing records as they take up A LOT of room, ha.
I’m in Chattanooga. Do you mind telling what antique shop that was? And when your back in Chattanooga, Vinterest Southside has a decent little record store.
Hi Bruce - these were found at the Refindery on McCallie. My sons are attending UTC so I'll be sure to check out Vinterest Southside next time we visit! Thanks for watching!
@@ForeverAnalog I'm in Chattanooga too -- St. Pete Records (also a furniture store) is my favorite shop in town. Yellow Racket Records has a smaller selection, but often has quite a few $2/$1/$0.50 records to dig through.
Yes we went there as well and I picked up some CDs!
I only stream the albums that I purchased on Bandcamp in the backyard. I don’t use any of the streaming services.
I love Bandcamp!
There are records I’ve found that I would have never listened to otherwise.
For instance I’ve listened to ECM for 35 years. In the shop I come across Passengers by Gary Burton w/ Pat Metheny, Eberhard Weber, Steve Swallow for 3 dollars. I’d never seen this before and it’s fantastic.
Oooh, I haven't heard Passengers yet - I'm going to check that out today - great find! Thanks for the heads up!
@@ForeverAnalog my find has significant skips on track one side two but the rest plays perfectly.
Always felt that I was supportive of local economy when buying records
Feels good!
I just prefer vinyl. I have listening to them since I was born in early 60's. I never stopped playing vinyl. I did record CDs for the car. I also play and burn CDs for the car. However, at home it is vinyl. I own over 2000 albums, 10 turntables, and 3 receivers.
I have a lot of turntables too, lol. Maybe I'll make a video on all of those next!
Interesting video though I am not so
fond of jazz myself, (I have heard some Oregon) I like recordshops too
but recordfairs can be too much....
Greetings from Stockholm....
Thank you for watching Hasse!
TBH, I don't even bother trying to explain anymore. A lot of people just don't get it and never will. I try to explain and get a blank stare. So I don't bother explaining anymore. They think I'm "wasting" my money on "useless clutter", and I don't, but it's my money, not theirs, so they don't get a say, and that's that. Also, I do have records which aren't on Spotify.
I’m finding that I dont even want to listen to an album on streaming anymore. If its something I’m unsure about I’ll sample each track on streaming before buying.
Great point. I do that as well. Thanks for watching!
There are actually cd sets were labels don't list sidemen and song writing credits. The original album series is a prime offender where you get a number of albums in cd form as a budget box set yet put out by a major label domestically.
Great video! We have gaylords of vinyl records available. 🙂 Feel free to let us know if you need help or inventory! I am looking forward for more videos!
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Sounds better, feels better, better artwork and liner notes, also many things CAN'T be streamed. It's also amazing to find a record you've never heard of and hear music otherwise lost to history.
Also I enjoy the experience of the album. Hearing the songs in the sequence intended by the artist creates an experience you won't get by streaming a song at a time, even if you choose each of the same songs in the same sequence.
I agree with everything you said! Thanks for watching!
0:28 see those records? I bought more than that in the last 18 months. Imagine what I would do in 25 years. You might say I enjoy the hunt. I'm not talking about Goodwill chaff either.
I have some serious storage issues lol
Streaming is fine. I use You Tube to check out stuff I Don t know. Not all Comps are not on streaming. Streaming loses and gain stuff randomly. Its fine for the hits. Less so for the music nerd.
They Don t pay the artists. Which is the bummer side of it.
Music is my sport. Streaming Isn t in my game. But its fine and convenient. Files and streaming are different from blasting a beat up Bob Seger or Elmore James 45. That is awesomeness.
I have Qobuz but I’m also on my Wife’s Spotify.
It's addictive lol. The list is ever-growing. Started a year ago and I'm up at 45 records...which is a lot for me.
I'm a bit different though. I enjoy streaming music, having favorites, and later possibly finding them in record store's. It's hard for me to take a risk on an album due to their crazy prices.
They pile up fast! lol. Thanks for watching!
Stephan Micus if anyone is wondering the spelling
Is Phonolux still in business in Nashville?
Yep!
@@ForeverAnalog Use to visit all the time. but I moved out of TN. Next time I am in Nashville maybe I will visit if I get the chance.
@abcd1239me check their hours. I don’t think they are open every day of the week now, mostly weekends!
@@ForeverAnalog Will do. I will check with a friend of mine that lives in Nashville. He worked at WSM as a voice over, he is retired now.
how is it that vinyl records are better than digital music streaming?
I tell my friends the truth: The inconvenience. Having to wash my music. The low dynamic range: 76db. The decay of dynamic range towards the centre spindle - the narrower less space there is for volume in the grooves - this is probably the most denied issue with vinyl that audiophiles ignores - which is odd and very contradicts the whole audiophile philosophy. Another thing, the expensive stylus to get the quality I want. You need at least a $1000+ stylus worth of investment, and equally amount of investment in a good RIAA. At least $2000 worth on just those two things. Then I mention to my friends the stylus wear. I can max play 1000 to 1500 hours with my precious MC stylus, then I have to buy another one (can't retip mine). Sooooo it is a hassle, but I find the low quality sound much better than digital. I find the RIAA technology fascinating. 😵💫
PS: I forgot warped records, especially new pressings. Very inconvenient and cool. Having to go back to the store and complain.
PS2: New pressings often sounds much more strained the original pressings. More than often old records sounds much more open and lush, more dynamic range. THIS is the coolest thing with vinyl records.
PS3: Prices is getting a bit stiff. Vinyl was funnier when 5-6 years ago, records cost were $15 to $20 for new ones. In 2022 it is often $30, $35 and even $45. Now a new triple Iron Maiden album (e.g. Beast Over Hammersmith) is $85 on sale here (MSRP $95). THAT is getting a bit much. But I like being ripped off. 🤣
This is great thank you. I haven’t yet jumped to an MC stylus. They make me so nervous lol.
@@ForeverAnalog You should try. When I jumped from a MM to MC, it was night and day. My records sounded so much better. And isn't that the fun about the whole thing? Discovering your 30-40 year old records again? 🙂
@@ForeverAnalog You put a lot of wear to your records using a MM. MC has narrower needle and tracks deeper, hence more details too, wears out slower. Handles IDG much better as it sits and fits better in the grooves👌
Streaming music pretty much guarantees the artist will receive no money. Support artists, buy physical copies thru the artists website
It always feels good to buy direct from the artists. I spend A LOT of money via Bandcamp lol
I feel that lp is a wast of time I refer cd and destizen to mp3 is batter
You can't everything online.
I don't get asked because I collect CDs. Back in the late 80s / early 90s, I did not get rid of my vinyl - how daft would that have been? Sadly vinyl is now overpriced... but the same problems persist: bad pressings, warped discs, dished, damaged sleeves etc etc. Only now you have to pay £30 for the privilege! Another blooming hassle, another LP you have to exchange - sometimes again and again. NO THANK YOU!
MEANWHILE..... CDs have never been cheaper! I have a serious CD player and my CDs sound better than streaming and better than the great majority of vinyl LPS.
One day soon, being "cool" will begin to look ever so slightly silly.....
I still love to buy CDs too!
I like to shop for clothes.
Yeah…maybe it’s the trying them on that I don’t like 😂
Do you buy records
Yep!
But there are people like me, with Multiple Sclerosis as a disability, who CANNOT go out to buy an LP. I haven’t been out for 4 years, so what choice do I have? Appreciate what you’re saying, though.
When streaming gets at least a million more hopelessly out of print albums, if not more than that, then collectors might have cause to pause. But even now? HAHAHAHAHA!!! Streaming has “everything”? WHAT A LAUGH!!!😂
I found two CDs this weekend while shopping and neither are on streaming services!
Stamp collector
Nice! Thanks for watching!
I agree with everything you say 100%. I am in my early 40s and closing in about 3000 records.
I like exploring in person like you mentioned, but I also like to utilize the Internet and exploring. I like to go to discogs when searching for something that I cannot find in person. Then once I make a purchase, if I open up a person’s account and see all the other records they have for sale it turns me onto all types of new music that I’ll look up on my music apps.
Regardless of how great that has helped me and how I do like apple music and spotify to explore new music before i buy or to have music available when I’m in my car out and about, owning vinyl records is still the better option.
For all the reasons u say but also, and i know this is perhaps far fetched, if we have a societal collapse, and all all of the compaies that provide online music go belly up,
or we lose tje internet in general, or even worse wind up in a mad max like civilization, your vinyl records will still be available. And that type of insurance is priceless
PS -
One day after picking up records from my usual spot, i stoppped into a little mom n pop mini market whole foods type of place,
and in the back of the store by the deli there wasxa tiny table with 2nd hand merch for sale, there was one vinyl record for sale in Mint consition,
that was the day i became the owner of the Tom Tom club’s first album…
how i got jerry harrison’s first record is even more insane
That’s an awesome Tom Tom story!!!
Nostalgia is fine, and collections are fine, but in terms of timbre and dynamics, vinyl records are poor compared to CDs.