One of my proudest moments of being a father is getting my son into vinyl. He learns from me and vice-versa. Plus I have someone to leave my collection to and not have to worry about it all being trashed some day. Thanks for your videos. BTW... my son's name is Dylan.
Here’s my humble opinion: Records and CDs can sound both amazing and c@ap. 90% of it is in the recording and mastering. HOWEVER, you need to spend more on the record deck to achieve high quality sound (a £100 CD player will be vastly superior to a £100 turntable). Once you get into quality equipment then vinyl has the edge certainly for me. I enjoy the feel of it, the hunting down of it, and even the smell of those old record sleeves. If I’m playing a CD or streaming then my mind wanders to other things… it doesn’t engage me. It’s far too easy to skip to the next track. If I’m playing a vinyl LP, then it has my full attention and I am more likely to listen to the full album without skipping tracks. Also, artwork (like you said) is easier to read and certainly more pleasing to look at. A year or so ago a fellow musician friend of mine came round for the evening with his wife and we got into the same CD V Vinyl argument. He asked me if I had any albums on both CD and LP to compare. I did and played him several for comparison. He said no more and within a few weeks had gone and got himself a turntable!
I enjoy both formats. When the record industry jacked up CD prices I bought more vinyl. Now that they're at it again with pricing vinyl too high I'm buying cheap compact discs.
I buy some stuff on CD as i dont have enough room to own everything on vinyl. So some stuff that doesnt necessarily sound brilliant anyway i get a cd , live albums usually cd, double albums with some filler - cd. BUT - any cds from 1990 on usually - not always, but normally sound offensive. The 80s cds sound good, especially the Barry Diament zep/ marley ones , 80s beatles... i own alot of my favourite albums on both formats. Room for everything. If you do your research there are well mastered albums on all formats. Vinyl FTW though.
I'm doing the same. I'm picking up whole catalogues of artists for the price of one of their vinyl albums right now. I still buy albums that are special to me on vinyl, though. I like the ritual of using the turntable.
I'm al most 70 now and have recently bought a new record player. I've dug my vinyl out of the loft and been playing albums I bought over 50 years ago. Still in good condition and sound great. I had bought for Christmas a 3 album set of The Who live at Leeds and a 4 album set of Who's Next. Collectors items that you can't get on any other format. Just brilliant to see vinyl back ❤
Hi Clive - yes, you can get them on other formats - especially CD. Who's next - 10 CD + 1 blu-ray deluxe edition. Now if you want that on vinyl you need a bank loan - AND I dont think you can get it !! All of those albums are available in deluxe CD box sets and more, and the sound quality is amazing. Cheers Doug
And in my opinion Clive you have 20 more years before you need to start even thinking about slowing down. Imagine yourself at 90, like William Shatner or Clint Eastwood, then think of how virile they were 20 years ago, when they were 70. Im just saying man. I always want people who are getting older to keep the perspective that they’re always 20 years younger than an age that you’ll give anything to go 20 years back when they get to. Meaning you’re truly always at an age that you’ll one day become jealous of being, even now and for generations to come. I hope you’re still living to the fullest of your scope my friend and know you’re best days can easily be ahead of you, its never too late for Now.
@arzabael I have to say I've been very lucky. No health problems and I'm constantly told by people I look like a man in his 50s. I was pretty fit when I was a referees a lot of years ago now and yes ,I have a young out look and hope I do see 90!!
I have a small vinyl collection, but I've always had a warm feeling for records that is hard to describe. Almost any kind of music makes me feel good by the simple act of putting an album on the turntable and watching it revolve as the needle hits the grooves. I know exactly what you mean, Dillon.
I loved it when you said you "like it because I like it" because I feel that a lot. I love everything from hunting, to listening, to cataloging, to meeting others at stores, to especially cleaning my records. I love it ALL when it comes to records. When people start to argue about other formats I say "1) they don't get me excited like records do and 2) I like records because they are different and the most historical connection to the music of the period." The most freeing thing was when I learned no one has to get it, but the joy I get is undeniable and it is what it is.
great video, I grew up with records then got rid of them all for CDs in the late 80s/early 90s :-( (as many people did) and though streaming is wonderful, and vast, and convenient (like fast food) I now long for the ritual of putting on a record and listening to it from start to finish. A bit like making a pot of tea instead of a teabag, the effort creates the appreciation. Listening to a record connects me better to the music, and connects me to when I used to listen to records as a kid. Thank you from Australia! Now I need to re-collect all the records I used to have.
When all the variables are dialed in vinyl sounds incredible It's not a cheap endeavor but if you're really into music its totally worth it One of the most noticeable differences with vinyl compared to digital streaming or cds is that a well made record has what I perceive as a holographic sound stage Its like viewing a picture through a fish eye lens under water There is a smooth clarity highly detailed and warm and smooth around the edges I've yet to experience with digital punchy mid range focused bass that hits you in the gut like I have with well made records Of course this varies pressing to pressing but when it's good its really really good
Im in my 50s, so i came up with records - bought Rumours when it was brand new and played it to death and collected 45s as a broke kid in the 70s. I wasnt obsessed quite yet. In 1978, i asked my parents to get the Sgt Peppers 1978 Frampton Bee Gees version. They made the glorious mistake of getting me the original Beatles one. When i heard that, i became obsessed with music. In the early 80s, i went into a store that specialized in uk imports. I became obsessed with collecting all the Iron Maiden and Metallica12inchers. That was really when i would say i got into collecting. I even got a beatles uk 12inch of Love Me Do. I loved b-sides, in some cases MORE than what was on the album. There are a lot of artists that i have complete discographies - all the singles, all the interview discs, some bootlegs, even redundant greatest hits. The 90s and early 2000s was when i really beefed up my collection, because used vinyl was a buck ( didnt matter if it was Lawrence Welk or the Smiths, it was all a buck used). The resurgence can be traced back as far as 2001 - at that time, my area only had 2 places that carried sealed new vinyl - virgin megastore and Hot Topic. Each year after 2001, there would be another tiny hint that a full comeback could be on the horizon. By 2007, my local indie store started a massive new vinyl section. 2007 was also the 1st year soundtracks were being pressed on vinyl, since 1990. 1990-91, i hit all the record stores that were ditching their sealed new vinyl and got em super cheap. I never thought they would go back and start making vinyl of all those 90s cd titles.i always had these gaps in my discographies, that ended in 1991 and picked back up circa 2007, so im happy filling those gaps
That Vicars record is badass. 45s are a whole other world. There were so many amazing artists that only put out one song and there’s only a few hundred copies in existence. I love collecting LPs but finding those rare 7” gems is my passion
I'm very new to vinyl. Basically a week or so. Grew up on CD's (when I was old enough to buy), went streaming, craved the physical product. Always admired the size of the vinyl artwork though. Finally thought stuff it, lets dabble. And yes loving it so far. Purposely grabbed albums released in the vinyl era - now looking to get that hi-fi gear up to speed too.
A good part of why I started collecting vinyl records was you. I HATED vinyl. When I was a kid, the records I owned skipped the first time I played them, or didn't sound good. When CDs came along, I was thrilled. And then when MP3s showed up, I was happier still. Totally set in my ways. But I wasn't listening to much and my tastes never broadened. Your videos kept popping up in my feed as I slowly showed interest in getting a turntable. And I started listening to music you recommended and found that I liked a lot of it. That was three years ago. I now have over 250 albums, a good deal of them being ones you recommended. Scientifically, do vinyl records sound better? No. But the experience, the connection with the music is so much greater. And it slows me down, forces me to listen more than I would to streaming. And heck, my vintage system sounds a lot better than my computer. So, thanks.
For starters one thing I always tell people is vinyl is simply more fun. CDs are kinda fun, but there ain't nothing "fun" about streaming lol. I collect CDs and I stream all the time, but vinyl is just a fun time. Not to mention of course the big artwork, gatefolds and all the cool things they can do with those. Like foil covers and interactive gatefolds ect. I also like because it's a collection you curate. You purge here and there, decide which records to bring home and which to leave behind. It's a personal thing. I also like seeing people's names that they wrote on the cover somewhere. Shows that it meant something to someone and now it's found it's way to me and means something again. Or like buying old sealed copies, took decades for them to finally find a home, kinda cool to think about. As far as vinyl sounding better, idk, I feel like my ears probably aren't perfect enough to tell lol, but I will say that to me the vinyl sound has more life to it, but idk. Too make an extremely long story just long, vinyl is fun and therefore king.
Never forget when I got the first Beatle album, in March 1963, I was 10 years old, it was like entering a new world of sound, got every Beatle release for the next 6 years, had to do long paper rounds and odd jobs, plus pocket money 🫰 I already heard the two singles, Love Me Do and Please Please me on Radio Luxembourg!
At 68, I was lucky enough to grow in home with a nice stereo system as my Father ran a TV/Stereo shop & also did repairs, so I go way back with vinyl. Through the years I grew a pretty impressive collection of vinyl, then like many, when CD's hit the scene I went that direction for many years. Thankfully though, I never sold my vinyl. About 30 years ago i started buying, selling & trading vintage stereo equipment for almost 10 years or more until I finally found my nirvana system during which time I switched back to mostly vinyl. The past few years however I took up painting so I mostly just play CD's or Bluetooth so I don't have to get up & flip albums, but I truly want to listen to music, I always go back to vinyl.
I have held onto my CD's in a giant tub. They may come back someday. Been record collecting for about two years and my collection is in the hundreds. Absolutely love the hobby and just bought the newest Dual Turntable and an external preamp to up my game from the UTurn Orbit I currently have. Truly have fallen in deep.
That shelf is looking pretty loaded, i love them too, i can barely get in my room , well there is a shortage of floor space ,and shelf space, its like the walls are moving in on me.
Vinyl records sound more organic and dynamic to me, and you get that beautiful artwork. Tho I just listened to Gentle Giant's Octopus on Japanese SACD and was blown away by the sound quality
I got hooked on records as a preschooler in the Fifties. My sister and I shared a children's acoustic 78rpm phonograph that reqyured steel needles. And my parents had a collection of 10-inch 78's from the Big Band era. When my grandfather died, my grandmother gave Dad their Philco Beam-of-Light radio-phono console. That phonograph fascinated me -- seeing the stack of discs drop one by one, then watch the tonearm track the groove, with a small light shining on the platter. I began to collect seriously once my parents bought a Magnavox Astrosonic radio-phono console. Then when I joined the Air Force and was stationed overseas I bought a component stereo system with a tuner amp, turntable, reel to reel tape recorder and four loudspeakers. Later on I branched out into cassettes and CDs, but avoided 8-tracks and never bothered with mp3's or downloads. You have to have the physical property in your hand, examining the cover while the music plays. Even sniffing an empty jacket can give you a thrill.
For me, there’s a nostalgia to it that I got from my family, which is where it started… Then I just developed my own love for it through my life experience. My grandma and great grandma were both music lovers, and were constantly listening to stuff like Muddy Waters, Brook Benton, Willie Nelson, Hank Williams, you name it… My great grandma was the first one in our family to get into CD’s because as she got up in tears, she loved the convenience of it. The rest of my family followed, so her daughter, my grandma, ended up giving me her turntable and records when I was a teen in the 90’s. I started setting records in thrift stores and picking them up whenever I could find something that interested me, and it didn’t take long for me to notice that, even though I had most of this stuff in CD already, something felt a lot more connected to the music when I listened on vinyl. There was a history to it. These albums I was finding were owned and listened to for decades before, and even for all their flaws, I loved the experience and even the sound. Sadly, that turntable and most of my old records got sold in a storage auction one time when my family was hitting some hard times, and I didn’t get a new turntable until sometime later. Recently, I bought a Denon DP-400 and upgraded the cartridge on it, so I’ve begun collecting records again, to go along with the small handful of my old collection I still have. Here’s my thing… I love music. And I do love CD’s as well. Although, with CD, the nostalgia is mostly just based on the packaging and holding the disc, etc., not in the actual listening… I can get all of that from vinyl, and in fact, the nostalgia hits exactly the same, but with vinyl, I actually feel like I’m participating. I’m actively consuming and enjoying a physical piece of art that is transmitting sound by means of actual physical grooves in the record. Skipping songs is less convenient than just letting the album play, so when I put on a record, I’m committed. I set time aside to do this. It’s important and soul healing to me. As far as sound quality… I mean yeah, I’m not gonna bother debating that. It’s all subjective. Even if better technical quality can be had from digital formats, that doesn’t matter to me. Vinyl records through a good setup, just simply sound far more pleasing and “alive” to me. And I’ve legitimately done A/B tests between vinyl records and CDs I have from the same run of releases, through the same speakers and preamp, and I can definitely say that I do prefer the vinyl versions every time. So yes, although I do love CD’s and modern convenience, nothing will ever knock vinyl off the top of the hill for me. I don’t care if it technically has the best quality or not. The quality is in the experience. Some people don’t get that it don’t care. But that’s okay.
Love your channel! Just started getting into Vinyl. Got a solid turn table for Christmas and got a copy of my favorite album of all time “The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me” by Brand New - hearing that on vinyl made it all worth it. I’m hooked and already have a couple more n the way. Steely Dan’s Countdown To Ecstasy just got here.
Hey Dillon, always appreciate the content and the enthusiasm and joy you bring to the hobby. I think you hit the nail on the head with why vinyl is great - The experience. I grew up with CDs and loved diving into an album with my headphones on and going into a whole new world with the music. With the advent of MP3 players, I slowly grew away from that experience of diving into an album. The main reason I got into vinyl was to make that connection again with the music and the artists, the way I would back when I listened to CDs. Everything you mentioned makes that experience something special. Whether it's sitting back and taking in the music, looking at the jackets and holding the album, making a connection with people through music, or just all of that together. Every one of my albums has a story and I love that about the hobby. Love the positivity and all the work you do for the community:) Have a Happy New Year!
my local thrift/charity shop has stopped/ refused to take cd's and DVD's. They are giving away all the DVD's and cd's! But with the donated vinyl, they are now ship them to their main store to be priced up via discogs - then sold at that price.Sad but true. I cannot hear the difference between cd and Vinyl- but most males have an autistic streak. I collect 45's. It's my thing.End of.
I’ve been around records since my toddler years. My older sisters always played records and I would stand by their player. From that moment on I was hooked. Fast forward to 1985 when cd came on the scene. I ditched my records and turntable at the time and jumped on the cd bandwagon. Then in 1988 I was at a friends house and he still had records. Watching him go through the ritual of choosing a record to play and the artwork jumping out at you to hearing the needle hit the groove. It dawned on me, man I miss playing records! So I started collecting records again and haven’t looked back!
@@noblerecords Yes it’s definitely a fun world. You mentioned community. Don’t know how many friends I’ve made in person and online through records. It’s funny how an object brings people together?!
Hi Dillon, That question is one that I have been hit with many times. As a vinyl obsessed collector (12,000+ LPs) I do believe that vinyl with a quality Turntable and cartridge does have a more emotionally involving sound over digital formats. A friend of mine who buys both CDs and vinyl Classical records says that CD's are convenient, emotionless and uninvolving discs that sound sterile like hospital music while vinyl records are more involving. I do believe he is right. I do have both formats and where I can buy either CD and LP my choice is LP, except for music for my car where CD wins out.
Great honest and personal video. There is something special about giving new life to a piece of history you find in a second hand store. I also like supporting new artists by buying their vinyl. Cheers
Hey there!.❤️ It’s the most wonderful way to enjoy music and once you get into it, there’s such joy in finding and playing. Strangely addictive (be careful, go with what you know) but the pleasure in a good find and playing on a nice turntable (doesn’t have to cost a huge amount), it’s just a joy.
I remember first playing records when I was 3 years old. I loved watching the label spinning around and around. I had a small collection of records growing up as a kid but when used vinyl started getting cheaper that's when my love for record collecting took off. Now I have close to 1,000 records and 5,000 45 singles.
Luv the channel and content. I used to deejay for 14yrs in California moved to PA and did net radio out of SF for another 10 years so I've played all formats and I agree vinyl sounds the best. Have you ever been to Get Hip Records in Pittsburgh. The owner Gregg Kostelich is the guitarist for The Cynics and has a warehouse of vinyl if I had to guess I would say at least a million Records and one helluva collection. I am good friends with him and he constantly is turning me on too new pressings. Keep up the good work. Peace!!!!
It can be a beginner just to have a few or a niche novice collector dedicating your sound system to the art of the medium. From the turntable to the cartridge to the amp & speakers and that too becoming the thrill of vinyl collecting is collecting gear & selling it to find the perfect play back system for the never ending love of collecting a library of music on vinyl. There’s the thrill of the hunt & the nostalgia & value and memories vinyl creates. I love cd’s but, there’s nothing more sexier or cooler than looking at a beautiful turntable playing a vinyl record that’s new or a a vintage collectible with a story behind it. Vinyl is the best medium out of all for those reasons. Having a cool room dedicated to records is also part of the experience. I love vinyl
I never got rid of my vinyl that I started collecting back in the early ‘70s. I switched to CDs because I couldn’t get music on vinyl after the late ‘90s, but I went back to vinyl in the 2000s and never looked back. I sold my CD collection for pennies on the dollar.
For a second there I thought Tim Gentry started a music channel 😅 I’m just now getting into vinyl and it was a bit crazy to see how expensive some of my favorite albums are in record format. But the way I see it, it’s a nice way to support the artists I enjoy listening to and to own the music in physical form.
While watching this video I finished putting the needle on my AT-LP120 and fully set up my new sound system I got for Christmas. No more Bluetooth or nothing just pure analog joy and it is magic. It’s crazy to believe how basic my setup still is lmao.
Ditto!.. I bought an Audio Technica deck recently and started buying early 70's prog rock classics again: Led Zep, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Frank Zappa, Mountain, Van Der Graaf Generator, Tyrannosaurus Rex.. yes it's magical, moreover, it keeps me fit having to jump up every 20 mins to change the record :)
Disraeli gears was one of the first psychedelic records i got, probably around 83/84, i had a byrds style haircut and suede boots, lol. People used to yell " the monkees" out of passing cars, the eighties was really fun, i had a great time.
The vinyl vs cd debate shouldn't be about sound quality but availability of format. So many things only ever released on CDs, missing out tons of great music by only buying one format.
This video really hit home for me. I got into records for largely the same reasons as you, bud. Fast-forward to 2018 & a band I sometimes work with (video & photo work) called The Clarks issued a vinyl edition of their new album at the time. I’d done all the photography for the liner notes & lyric panels. The CD layout was cool…but that vinyl edition was amazing. It was a classic gatefold sleeve. The band gave me two copies (signed). The first time I opened one up, all I kept thinking was: “Someday in the future, some kid is gonna listen to this record & look at MY photos & get inspired just like I did so many years ago.” It’s a cool feeling. 😎
I don't care either brother. "It's all about the music". I have 1,400+ Albums but I also have 1,300+ CD's. I agree with you on your love for vinyl and the community. There's no other like it. Thanks man for you're video's. Peace and love.....
The sound of wax cylinders is better! Great vid, man. Love your honesty and authenticity! Myself recoreds are #1, CD's #2, and Tapes/streaming High-Res #3. I love CD's and find many sounding better than their LP counterparts. Hey, how our brain rapidly unravels the highly complex sound wave nerve impulses, analyzes them, and interprets them, varies greatly from person to person. Oh, and let's not forget mastering/remastering/medium quality/etc. has much to do with reported sound quality. As you, if it sounds good it is good, period. Oh, and yes - I dream about records as well. I actually had one last night. It was beautiful!
I buy cds because they are cheaper, portable, do not degrade over time, even if I listen to them everyday, are easy to stock and have a terrific sound quality. I stopped buying vinyl 35 years ago. But I don't think one is better than the other.
Great video…I Love my albums and I also Love my cds. I do not stream Music but I do watch cool Music TH-cam Channels like this one and have even started my own! For literally decades now I choose one cd for my day, my ‘ride along’ and the reason could be anything that gets in my head to listen to that day. I’ve kept all my cool LPs from my youth and buy more records than cds these last 5 years probably. But, I’m not the same as everyone, not the same as you are Dylan; I am a fussy person and real clean oriented so I do not buy used records often; instead I tend to buy new records and than keep ‘em in pristine condition. I’m in a big kick these last few years to expand my RnR Record collection rather than be a completist for Bands/artists. It’s so interesting to me how people have their own styles and motivations for collecting Music…Love it!! Also, as well, I Love listening to good RnR Radio stations like Q107 in Toronto. ✌️
Hy Dylan (sp ?). New subscriber in the UK here. I toyed with getting a decent turntable for ages and watched a lot of videos and read a lot of scientific articles eploring comparisons of vinyl, mp3 and CD music tracks, and the conclusion at the end of it all was.... there's very little "physical" difference. BUT... now that I have a record player, I've immediately noticed that music from a vinyl takes centre stage more than CD or mp3 etc. I mean, I will sit down and listen and concentrate on an LP, whereas with a CD it just becomes background music very quickly, ya know? I like both, but if I want to actually LISTEN to (and EXPERIENCE) music, I'll put it on the turntable. I have a question too: what is the most money you've spent on a record, either for your personal collection or for the business? Thanks!
Vinyl done right feels like the band is in your room playing. Which goes hand-in-hand with my latest rule when deciding to keep a reissue vs. a first press. Which one moves me? Which one makes me feel something? That’s the one i keep. CD’s and streaming are like super clean 8-tracks or cassettes. Portability is their main advantage. That and programming a playlist. Great videos. Look forward to visiting the store sometime.
My Dad gave me his record collection about 4 crates worth. I originally just framed to cool records and hung them in my music room and just enjoyed looking at them. Then I decided to buy a decent turntable. And now zero records are framed. They're all cherished and listened to on a regular basis now. Im hooked on vinyl now.
I've been looking for a vinyl copy of a band called It Could Be Nothing, I have the CD but a vinyl would be awesome. They're an alternative band from Charlotte and I don't if they even released their 1st album on vinyl! But hey..gotta love the hunt tho!
I have a question about warped records. I have a Steve Goodman record with a slight warp on the edge causing the 1st 2 tracks to be unplayable. Ive seen on line slipping the vinyl between 2 plates of glass & warming it in the oven. Have you ever tried this? If so what was the result?
I vividly remember while the neighborhood kids were buying transformers and other toys, I was saving my 5 dollar weekly allowance so I could go to the local shop and get some new music. It was an event for me, I remember getting Korn - life is peachy when I was 10 and it changed everything.
I've been comparing my vinyl copies to CD copies, and most of the time, the vintage albums sound better on vinyl. It really depends on the mastering. Tool's Fear Inoculum sounds WAY better on vinyl when I compared it to the CD rip, but that record was actually recorded to tape. Some vinyl records give you this three dimensional effect that digital can never touch. I'm a minimalist collector than ultimately wants a relatively small collection of records that clearly sound better than their digital counterparts.
Hey Dillon, can you talk about your record shelves? They don’t look like the ikea kallax that most go with? ..Including myself. My gf got it for me. Very expensive for “pressed wood” if you ask me! About $400 after shipping! I was gonna build something for my collection out of really wood but my buddy said it would be a pain so I just ordered the largest kallax they offered which I believe is like 25 cubes and holds close to 2,000 lp records. Yours don’t look like the IKEA kallax ones? Did you build them? Can you share your build plans if so?? Love all your videos man!!! Keep up the awesome work! Oh, btw I’m outside of Nashville. Now I’m on the hunt for that 45 you mentioned lol.
the 2x4 and 1x4 Kallax are the best ones. That big 5x5 one is not very sturdy, and it is clumsy and not easy to move around, or move at all - if you move to a new house. I stack the smaller Kallax like Lego bricks. That way you can build a wall with them, and they are easy to move.
Fortunately I kept my collection of about 500 records from the 60's and 70's. We recently bought an entry level turntable and I am enjoying the records much more than cd's. The whole experience is better, from the buying, to the holding, to the playing, to the hearing. I've developed an interest in opera since my youth, so I've started buying used opera vinyl, which is available at reasonable prices...
Man those were the days, finding Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd records for $5 or less….. the bulk of what I own was bought for basically the same reason you stated, way cheaper to buy the records.
I’m currently focused on replacing 90’s cd’s , which are getting vinyl releases. Both 1st timers and reissues from small , rare and very expensive vinyl side batches to major 90’s albums. I want as many of them as possible on wax.
I spent 40 years of my life collecting over 10,000 LPs (we didn't call them "vinyls") starting in the mid-'60s－and then in 2015 I sold every single one of them to Silver Platters, a CD/DVD store here in Seattle that was getting back into vinyl. Why'd I do it? I was tired of the ritual. I was sick of the maintenance. I had taken a few hundred of the best & rarest ones and dubbed them to CD-R, first deticking and depopping them and doing everything I could to eliminate the groove rumble which is endemic to every single LP. By then most everything else I wanted had been reissued on CD. By then I had also purchased a sub-woofer flat to 15Hz, which made me realize that there are TWO OCTAVES missing from every LP. So all y'all who are thrilled to spend $40 on a 1950's mono jazz album with the sound of bacon frying in the background, enjoy. I was one of you once.
I have a simple response whenever I need to explain why I prefer vinyl over other formats. It's fun! That's it, it's fun to put a plastic disc on a turntable and listen to music come out of it. Of course, I'm into all the technical aspects, what's are the best pressings of an album, and so on and so forth, but at the root of it is that I get enjoyment from it. 🤷♂
I agree with everything you've said here. I will add that there is science to back up why vinyl sounds better or "warmer", analog sound waves vs digital sound waves with analog being how records are recorded and we talk in analog so vinyl sounds more natural.
One of the best ‘CD compared to Vinyl’ demos I’ve done - Def Leppard Pyromania OG Vinyl & OG CD…. Very easy to hear the difference…. Not saying one is better or worse…. But the difference in the sound is absolutely there …. Give it a try - one of the best ‘this what is meant by ‘warmth’ & this is what is meant by ‘crisp’ demos out there Love the vids as always and hoping to swing by again next time I’m in town from NJ.
Whenever I get a record, I’ll put it on while simultaneously playing the same song on my Spotify and I’ll switch the headphones back and forth between my turntable and phone to compare the sound. I almost always find that while the Spotify version sounds fuller and more bassy, it also sounds more muffled and flat. Whereas the vinyl version, while more trebly and thin, sounds so much wider, clearer, and more realistic. I’ll add though that while I greatly prefer to hear jazz and classic rock (and old school electronic) on vinyl, metal to me sounds a lot heavier digitally. Even though metal on vinyl still sounds more dynamic and crisp, it sounds like it has more of a punch on digital media.
In certain genres the liner notes sealed the sale. For a long while I was into REAL blues, and the scholarship on the back got me to buy gems that are still in my collection half a century later. Son House, Skip James, Dave Ray …
I grew up listening to Vinyl albums and 45 and I switched to CDs around 1987 or 1988 because they were smaller and easier to store. I kept my vinyl albums that I had too. One reason I like about CDs they are harder to damage. I do wish they had made the original cases bigger so the artwork was bigger. DVD size case would have been better for artwork. I like CD now too because I can rip them and put music on my phone to listen to it while I'm working in construction. I'm sure vinyl does sound better but where I listen to music the most it doesn't need to sound the best. So sometime how you listen to it does matter. Over the years I have bought albums on vinyl where I wanted the bigger artwork that had a lot of detail in it. One example is the Steve Perry Traces album.
I heartily concur. Are records better, I don't care either! I love the whole vinyl medium-collecting, searching, playing, care, artwork, etc.. My audio system sounds spectacular and that's al that matters to me.
As a former collector with over 3k albums, I think this was a fair assessment. I collected records right up until 1990 or so as that was the format. I had a decent system though not what you would call higher end. I was not able to afford the rip-off prices of CD’s when they first came out, so I wound up taping my friend’s albums instead as well as spending hours at record shop listening stations lol. As someone who never could afford a really high end sound system, streaming has been a Godsend. I have access to pretty much whatever I want to listen to (yes, there are a lot of obscure titles that remain frustratingly unavailable) and with a high end pair of Grado headphones it sounds awesome to my ears. I actually prefer the digital sound to vinyl; no surface noise, no skips, not having to get up and flip the damn thing over, the limited space for music, etc. I remember being absolutely infuriated back in the day when I had purchased a copy for Brian Eno’s Apollo Soundtracks and there was very noticeable surface noise on the record which completely ruined the experience for me. I returned my copy only to discover that all of the copies in that batch had the same issue. I longed for a format even then that would be clear and quiet. Of course, that format came, although the jacked prices for CD’s in the early days ruined that for me as well. Finally streaming came along and has largely resolved those issues for me. I never had the means to purchase the type of high end system that would make the obsolete format that is vinyl worthwhile, and even then it is down to the quality of the mastering and not the format. I get that some people like the so called “warmth” of the vinyl sound (which is really simply because of a compressed dynamic range) but I have done many comparisons of both (not on a 50k sound system to be fair) and I prefer the clear, open and expansive sound of digital. At the end of the day, this is a personal preference even though digital is the superior sound format from a purely technical perspective. What I DO miss about vinyl and is accurately described here, is three things. Firstly, the album cover artwork. Sadly, this is something you cannot get any other way and holding that album jacket in your hands (even if the format inside of that jacket annoys) and enjoying the artwork snd sometimes the lyrics printed in front of you is something you just cannot get any other way and I have had to accept that this is no longer part of my music experience. The second is the music store experience a d that sense of community as described here. I really do miss going to the shops, flipping through the bins and finding a completely unexpected jem that I didn’t even know I was looking for, as well as having conversations with the shop attendant (and sometimes other customers) about it and music in general. I think that is why YT channels like this one exist as an attempt to replicate that community, though it’s not quite the same. Lastly, I have had to relinquish that sense of ownership which can only come when you purchase a copy of an album or CD. This was not at all easy but I have gotten used to it, just as using a Kindle or IPad has rendered owning physical copies of books unnecessary. That said, if a streaming platform does not have the rights to a favorite title there is no other way (except inferior sounding uploads onto TH-cam, if available) to hear that music. In the end, as concluded here, it is up to the listener and which of these factors matter to them. I really had no choice but over time learned to be mostly happy with my options. Personally, I will never return to those outmoded and noisy pieces of plastic over the convenience and, to my ears, excellent sound (top tier streaming of course) I get through my headphones. Then again, I couldn’t afford to eve if I wanted to.
We actually have Spotify set to high resolution mode, and on most albums it sounds worse than those "noisy" vinyl as people like you typically generalise because you do not know better. You just remember YOUR noisy vinyls. 😂
My records from the 70s and 80s, even the 50s and 60s are still not worn out. This depends on the system, stylus, if it is properly set up (tone arm weight), if the records get worn out or not. Those who never swapped out their stylus destroyed their records, or used too much force. The problem with many CDs is that they are very badly mastered. Don't get me wrong, I have CDs to die for in quality, but most of the time when I go back to my old CD collection, I wished they hold up in quality compared to the vinyl counterpart.
The problem with discs (CD, DVD, BD) is that they eventually rot. They oxidise slowly because of its construction of layers, metal-film and glue. Oil will not.
Totally agree with you, also to me vinyl is better. The whole feel around it. Going into a record store or a vinyl market or even flea market you always wonder what you will come home with. It may be a long sought album, or one you once heard and forgot how good it was or as you say because the artwork attracts you. In the last case you really wonder what it will be especially if you didn't find it in a designated section, like heavy metal (wherein I got introduced to Empress AD by the artwork of their album Still life moving fast... and freaked out in a positive way when I got home). But it's not only the collecting, it's also sharing your finds with friends who also really like to listen to music. It's a world in itself...
Your initial thumbnail was was creams iconic album, my wife knew Jack Bruce he lived in a village in essex called alphamstone lovely bloke . Vinyl is 👌
I had the same origin story collecting records, except it was the early 2000’s. CDs were like 20 bucks, records were at the time like 5 bucks and under. I wanted the Who Live at Leeds. A thrift store turntable and the record was about the same price as a new cd.
When ever i go out of town on trips i do two things goggle record stores near me and bring my running shoes. I love buying clean used records and imagine the owner before me
Are certain frequency of bass that CD cant pick up, notice it missing on all my favorites on CD..reel to reel was actually known as the best sounding back in the day..
Yep that’s true, but I think it’s hard to find a good player that works reliably and the tape degrades every time you play it. But beyond all that. I like records 🤣
Bass is mastered in mono on vinyl records. It certainly gives it a distinct sound. If you have original 70s records, man they knew how to do their thing back then, plus you get the freshest sound as close to the master. People like Chad knows how to continue doing this along with his staff.
Vinyl is just fun because there’s an ecosystem that pulls you into an immersive experience. Some CDs sound amazing - better than the vinyl counterpart. But how often do I put in a CD, sit down in a comfortable chair and enjoy the music while reading through the liner notes? Listening to one record always leads me to want to hear more and more and more, like jumping from one band to another. Never happens with cds or streaming.
Vinyl is NOT better, it is just an amazing physical alternative. Does it sound better, that is subjective and completely dependant on your media and your equipment. At the very high end of both, it's still debatable. Let's just say hq vinyl played on hq equipment will give any digital a run for its money, better it, and the warmth cannot be denied. At the low end, the charm of handling records makes up for how it sounds on low end equipment. Why are records not the end all be all, easy. I am on my bed, listening to my great equipment playing in my living room. I have 5714 songs set on random on this playlist alone, a skip is one press away. I can also disconnect from the big stereo to my Bluetooth speaker, set a timer for bed and drift off. I get how great my records are. I love them. I adore them. But 5714 songs on random that sound 90% as good as any record I have and I don't have to get my ass up to flip a record every 17-24 minutes, set on a stool every second time I do that trying to figure out the next masterpiece to drop the needle on? Sometimes the greatest gift you can give YOURSELF is 5714 songs that you love set to random. But no. My records are not for sale. Cheers.
One of my proudest moments of being a father is getting my son into vinyl. He learns from me and vice-versa. Plus I have someone to leave my collection to and not have to worry about it all being trashed some day. Thanks for your videos. BTW... my son's name is Dylan.
Here’s my humble opinion: Records and CDs can sound both amazing and c@ap. 90% of it is in the recording and mastering. HOWEVER, you need to spend more on the record deck to achieve high quality sound (a £100 CD player will be vastly superior to a £100 turntable). Once you get into quality equipment then vinyl has the edge certainly for me. I enjoy the feel of it, the hunting down of it, and even the smell of those old record sleeves. If I’m playing a CD or streaming then my mind wanders to other things… it doesn’t engage me. It’s far too easy to skip to the next track. If I’m playing a vinyl LP, then it has my full attention and I am more likely to listen to the full album without skipping tracks. Also, artwork (like you said) is easier to read and certainly more pleasing to look at. A year or so ago a fellow musician friend of mine came round for the evening with his wife and we got into the same CD V Vinyl argument. He asked me if I had any albums on both CD and LP to compare. I did and played him several for comparison. He said no more and within a few weeks had gone and got himself a turntable!
I think it’s really just what you’re drawn to most, Thanks for watching! 🙏
I enjoy both formats. When the record industry jacked up CD prices I bought more vinyl. Now that they're at it again with pricing vinyl too high I'm buying cheap compact discs.
Against the grain! I did the same in the 90s. Good call!
When you can't even buy a lossless digital download for less than $10, crate digging for used and out of print CDs for $5 is where it's at!
I buy some stuff on CD as i dont have enough room to own everything on vinyl. So some stuff that doesnt necessarily sound brilliant anyway i get a cd , live albums usually cd, double albums with some filler - cd.
BUT - any cds from 1990 on usually - not always, but normally sound offensive.
The 80s cds sound good, especially the Barry Diament zep/ marley ones , 80s beatles... i own alot of my favourite albums on both formats.
Room for everything. If you do your research there are well mastered albums on all formats.
Vinyl FTW though.
Same here
I'm doing the same. I'm picking up whole catalogues of artists for the price of one of their vinyl albums right now. I still buy albums that are special to me on vinyl, though. I like the ritual of using the turntable.
I'm al most 70 now and have recently bought a new record player. I've dug my vinyl out of the loft and been playing albums I bought over 50 years ago. Still in good condition and sound great. I had bought for Christmas a 3 album set of The Who live at Leeds and a 4 album set of Who's Next. Collectors items that you can't get on any other format. Just brilliant to see vinyl back ❤
Hi Clive - yes, you can get them on other formats - especially CD. Who's next - 10 CD + 1 blu-ray deluxe edition. Now if you want that on vinyl you need a bank loan - AND I dont think you can get it !! All of those albums are available in deluxe CD box sets and more, and the sound quality is amazing. Cheers Doug
@douglasweston126 thanks for that. I honestly didn't know all that info, but I'm happy revisiting my vinyl. I'm like a kid in a sweet shop!! Cheers 🍻
And in my opinion Clive you have 20 more years before you need to start even thinking about slowing down. Imagine yourself at 90, like William Shatner or Clint Eastwood, then think of how virile they were 20 years ago, when they were 70. Im just saying man. I always want people who are getting older to keep the perspective that they’re always 20 years younger than an age that you’ll give anything to go 20 years back when they get to. Meaning you’re truly always at an age that you’ll one day become jealous of being, even now and for generations to come. I hope you’re still living to the fullest of your scope my friend and know you’re best days can easily be ahead of you, its never too late for Now.
@arzabael I have to say I've been very lucky. No health problems and I'm constantly told by people I look like a man in his 50s. I was pretty fit when I was a referees a lot of years ago now and yes ,I have a young out look and hope I do see 90!!
"Some people are insane like me...", And here we are, watching your videos 😂
Being able to own the music along with the size of the artwork does it for me.
Yep!!! Thanks for watching! 🙏
I have a small vinyl collection, but I've always had a warm feeling for records that is hard to describe. Almost any kind of music makes me feel good by the simple act of putting an album on the turntable and watching it revolve as the needle hits the grooves. I know exactly what you mean, Dillon.
I loved it when you said you "like it because I like it" because I feel that a lot. I love everything from hunting, to listening, to cataloging, to meeting others at stores, to especially cleaning my records. I love it ALL when it comes to records.
When people start to argue about other formats I say "1) they don't get me excited like records do and 2) I like records because they are different and the most historical connection to the music of the period." The most freeing thing was when I learned no one has to get it, but the joy I get is undeniable and it is what it is.
Yeah for sure; it’s an indescribable thing
I like both, but got hooked on CD’s in my teens so stuck with that format. The digging for finds is the best
That’s great!
honestly its just fun watching records play its almost like magic that music can come from a plastic disk and a needle
That’s enough for me!!! 🤣
great video, I grew up with records then got rid of them all for CDs in the late 80s/early 90s :-( (as many people did) and though streaming is wonderful, and vast, and convenient (like fast food) I now long for the ritual of putting on a record and listening to it from start to finish. A bit like making a pot of tea instead of a teabag, the effort creates the appreciation. Listening to a record connects me better to the music, and connects me to when I used to listen to records as a kid. Thank you from Australia! Now I need to re-collect all the records I used to have.
When all the variables are dialed in vinyl sounds incredible
It's not a cheap endeavor but if you're really into music its totally worth it
One of the most noticeable differences with vinyl compared to digital streaming or cds is that a well made record has what I perceive as a holographic sound stage
Its like viewing a picture through a fish eye lens under water
There is a smooth clarity highly detailed and warm and smooth around the edges I've yet to experience with digital punchy mid range focused bass that hits you in the gut like I have with well made records
Of course this varies pressing to pressing but when it's good its really really good
I always say it's like listening through a speaker in the studio as it was being recorded. Feels like you are in the room.
@@jeffmcilvaine7413 totally agree
Im in my 50s, so i came up with records - bought Rumours when it was brand new and played it to death and collected 45s as a broke kid in the 70s. I wasnt obsessed quite yet. In 1978, i asked my parents to get the Sgt Peppers 1978 Frampton Bee Gees version. They made the glorious mistake of getting me the original Beatles one. When i heard that, i became obsessed with music. In the early 80s, i went into a store that specialized in uk imports. I became obsessed with collecting all the Iron Maiden and Metallica12inchers. That was really when i would say i got into collecting. I even got a beatles uk 12inch of Love Me Do. I loved b-sides, in some cases MORE than what was on the album. There are a lot of artists that i have complete discographies - all the singles, all the interview discs, some bootlegs, even redundant greatest hits. The 90s and early 2000s was when i really beefed up my collection, because used vinyl was a buck ( didnt matter if it was Lawrence Welk or the Smiths, it was all a buck used). The resurgence can be traced back as far as 2001 - at that time, my area only had 2 places that carried sealed new vinyl - virgin megastore and Hot Topic. Each year after 2001, there would be another tiny hint that a full comeback could be on the horizon. By 2007, my local indie store started a massive new vinyl section. 2007 was also the 1st year soundtracks were being pressed on vinyl, since 1990. 1990-91, i hit all the record stores that were ditching their sealed new vinyl and got em super cheap. I never thought they would go back and start making vinyl of all those 90s cd titles.i always had these gaps in my discographies, that ended in 1991 and picked back up circa 2007, so im happy filling those gaps
That Vicars record is badass. 45s are a whole other world. There were so many amazing artists that only put out one song and there’s only a few hundred copies in existence. I love collecting LPs but finding those rare 7” gems is my passion
Yeah I about crapped when I found it. It’s so cool.
I got to agree I love my albums but those 45s are special
@@ayamaprantenna they do exist
You have such a passion; it's invigorating. Stay true, Dylan. You look happy, you sound happy.
I'm very new to vinyl. Basically a week or so. Grew up on CD's (when I was old enough to buy), went streaming, craved the physical product. Always admired the size of the vinyl artwork though. Finally thought stuff it, lets dabble. And yes loving it so far. Purposely grabbed albums released in the vinyl era - now looking to get that hi-fi gear up to speed too.
A good part of why I started collecting vinyl records was you. I HATED vinyl. When I was a kid, the records I owned skipped the first time I played them, or didn't sound good. When CDs came along, I was thrilled. And then when MP3s showed up, I was happier still. Totally set in my ways. But I wasn't listening to much and my tastes never broadened. Your videos kept popping up in my feed as I slowly showed interest in getting a turntable. And I started listening to music you recommended and found that I liked a lot of it. That was three years ago. I now have over 250 albums, a good deal of them being ones you recommended. Scientifically, do vinyl records sound better? No. But the experience, the connection with the music is so much greater. And it slows me down, forces me to listen more than I would to streaming. And heck, my vintage system sounds a lot better than my computer. So, thanks.
One day you will hear how vinyl actually sounds like. 😉
For starters one thing I always tell people is vinyl is simply more fun. CDs are kinda fun, but there ain't nothing "fun" about streaming lol. I collect CDs and I stream all the time, but vinyl is just a fun time. Not to mention of course the big artwork, gatefolds and all the cool things they can do with those. Like foil covers and interactive gatefolds ect. I also like because it's a collection you curate. You purge here and there, decide which records to bring home and which to leave behind. It's a personal thing. I also like seeing people's names that they wrote on the cover somewhere. Shows that it meant something to someone and now it's found it's way to me and means something again. Or like buying old sealed copies, took decades for them to finally find a home, kinda cool to think about. As far as vinyl sounding better, idk, I feel like my ears probably aren't perfect enough to tell lol, but I will say that to me the vinyl sound has more life to it, but idk. Too make an extremely long story just long, vinyl is fun and therefore king.
Your videos beat everyone else's on line! Hands down!❤ Your passion is contagious! Love it!!!
Thanks so much! I love records, and love talking about them!
you're so passionate, i really love it :) u seem like a wholesome guy!
Wow 99,000 subscribers That's amazing bro congratulations
Never forget when I got the first Beatle album, in March 1963, I was 10 years old, it was like entering a new world of sound, got every Beatle release for the next 6 years, had to do long paper rounds and odd jobs, plus pocket money 🫰 I already heard the two singles, Love Me Do and Please Please me on Radio Luxembourg!
Thanks for watching! 🙏
At 68, I was lucky enough to grow in home with a nice stereo system as my Father ran a TV/Stereo shop & also did repairs, so I go way back with vinyl. Through the years I grew a pretty impressive collection of vinyl, then like many, when CD's hit the scene I went that direction for many years. Thankfully though, I never sold my vinyl. About 30 years ago i started buying, selling & trading vintage stereo equipment for almost 10 years or more until I finally found my nirvana system during which time I switched back to mostly vinyl. The past few years however I took up painting so I mostly just play CD's or Bluetooth so I don't have to get up & flip albums, but I truly want to listen to music, I always go back to vinyl.
I have held onto my CD's in a giant tub. They may come back someday. Been record collecting for about two years and my collection is in the hundreds. Absolutely love the hobby and just bought the newest Dual Turntable and an external preamp to up my game from the UTurn Orbit I currently have. Truly have fallen in deep.
Welcome to the club! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Man, this guys passion for this is pouring through. Will definitely stop in at his shop the next time I’m visiting family in Matthews/Charlotte.
That shelf is looking pretty loaded, i love them too, i can barely get in my room , well there is a shortage of floor space ,and shelf space, its like the walls are moving in on me.
Vinyl records sound more organic and dynamic to me, and you get that beautiful artwork. Tho I just listened to Gentle Giant's Octopus on Japanese SACD and was blown away by the sound quality
Amen brother! Keep killing it! You’re doing great man.
I got hooked on records as a preschooler in the Fifties. My sister and I shared a children's acoustic 78rpm phonograph that reqyured steel needles. And my parents had a collection of 10-inch 78's from the Big Band era. When my grandfather died, my grandmother gave Dad their Philco Beam-of-Light radio-phono console. That phonograph fascinated me -- seeing the stack of discs drop one by one, then watch the tonearm track the groove, with a small light shining on the platter.
I began to collect seriously once my parents bought a Magnavox Astrosonic radio-phono console. Then when I joined the Air Force and was stationed overseas I bought a component stereo system with a tuner amp, turntable, reel to reel tape recorder and four loudspeakers. Later on I branched out into cassettes and CDs, but avoided 8-tracks and never bothered with mp3's or downloads. You have to have the physical property in your hand, examining the cover while the music plays. Even sniffing an empty jacket can give you a thrill.
For me, there’s a nostalgia to it that I got from my family, which is where it started… Then I just developed my own love for it through my life experience. My grandma and great grandma were both music lovers, and were constantly listening to stuff like Muddy Waters, Brook Benton, Willie Nelson, Hank Williams, you name it… My great grandma was the first one in our family to get into CD’s because as she got up in tears, she loved the convenience of it. The rest of my family followed, so her daughter, my grandma, ended up giving me her turntable and records when I was a teen in the 90’s.
I started setting records in thrift stores and picking them up whenever I could find something that interested me, and it didn’t take long for me to notice that, even though I had most of this stuff in CD already, something felt a lot more connected to the music when I listened on vinyl. There was a history to it. These albums I was finding were owned and listened to for decades before, and even for all their flaws, I loved the experience and even the sound. Sadly, that turntable and most of my old records got sold in a storage auction one time when my family was hitting some hard times, and I didn’t get a new turntable until sometime later.
Recently, I bought a Denon DP-400 and upgraded the cartridge on it, so I’ve begun collecting records again, to go along with the small handful of my old collection I still have.
Here’s my thing… I love music. And I do love CD’s as well. Although, with CD, the nostalgia is mostly just based on the packaging and holding the disc, etc., not in the actual listening… I can get all of that from vinyl, and in fact, the nostalgia hits exactly the same, but with vinyl, I actually feel like I’m participating. I’m actively consuming and enjoying a physical piece of art that is transmitting sound by means of actual physical grooves in the record. Skipping songs is less convenient than just letting the album play, so when I put on a record, I’m committed. I set time aside to do this. It’s important and soul healing to me.
As far as sound quality… I mean yeah, I’m not gonna bother debating that. It’s all subjective. Even if better technical quality can be had from digital formats, that doesn’t matter to me. Vinyl records through a good setup, just simply sound far more pleasing and “alive” to me. And I’ve legitimately done A/B tests between vinyl records and CDs I have from the same run of releases, through the same speakers and preamp, and I can definitely say that I do prefer the vinyl versions every time.
So yes, although I do love CD’s and modern convenience, nothing will ever knock vinyl off the top of the hill for me. I don’t care if it technically has the best quality or not.
The quality is in the experience.
Some people don’t get that it don’t care. But that’s okay.
Great Video!!! I Got My First Record Player Christmas 1965.... I Was 13 And I Sister Bought Me The Beatles 2nd Album!!! That Was All She Wrote!!!!!
Great way to start!!!
Love your channel! Just started getting into Vinyl. Got a solid turn table for Christmas and got a copy of my favorite album of all time “The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me” by Brand New - hearing that on vinyl made it all worth it. I’m hooked and already have a couple more n the way. Steely Dan’s Countdown To Ecstasy just got here.
Hey Dillon, always appreciate the content and the enthusiasm and joy you bring to the hobby. I think you hit the nail on the head with why vinyl is great - The experience. I grew up with CDs and loved diving into an album with my headphones on and going into a whole new world with the music. With the advent of MP3 players, I slowly grew away from that experience of diving into an album. The main reason I got into vinyl was to make that connection again with the music and the artists, the way I would back when I listened to CDs. Everything you mentioned makes that experience something special. Whether it's sitting back and taking in the music, looking at the jackets and holding the album, making a connection with people through music, or just all of that together. Every one of my albums has a story and I love that about the hobby.
Love the positivity and all the work you do for the community:) Have a Happy New Year!
my local thrift/charity shop has stopped/ refused to take cd's and DVD's.
They are giving away all the DVD's and cd's! But with the donated vinyl, they are now ship them to their main store to be priced up via discogs - then sold at that price.Sad but true.
I cannot hear the difference between cd and Vinyl- but most males have an autistic streak. I collect 45's. It's my thing.End of.
I’ve been around records since my toddler years. My older sisters always played records and I would stand by their player. From that moment on I was hooked. Fast forward to 1985 when cd came on the scene. I ditched my records and turntable at the time and jumped on the cd bandwagon. Then in 1988 I was at a friends house and he still had records. Watching him go through the ritual of choosing a record to play and the artwork jumping out at you to hearing the needle hit the groove. It dawned on me, man I miss playing records! So I started collecting records again and haven’t looked back!
That’s awesome! It’s a fun world!
@@noblerecords Yes it’s definitely a fun world. You mentioned community. Don’t know how many friends I’ve made in person and online through records. It’s funny how an object brings people together?!
Hi Dillon, That question is one that I have been hit with many times. As a vinyl obsessed collector (12,000+ LPs) I do believe that vinyl with a quality Turntable and cartridge does have a more emotionally involving sound over digital formats. A friend of mine who buys both CDs and vinyl Classical records says that CD's are convenient, emotionless and uninvolving discs that sound sterile like hospital music while vinyl records are more involving. I do believe he is right. I do have both formats and where I can buy either CD and LP my choice is LP, except for music for my car where CD wins out.
Fantastic cover that Dr John I love the right inner sleeve also
Vinyl is King! ❤
For me!
Great honest and personal video. There is something special about giving new life to a piece of history you find in a second hand store. I also like supporting new artists by buying their vinyl. Cheers
Thanks for watching! 🙏 happy new year!
Hey there!.❤️ It’s the most wonderful way to enjoy music and once you get into it, there’s such joy in finding and playing. Strangely addictive (be careful, go with what you know) but the pleasure in a good find and playing on a nice turntable (doesn’t have to cost a huge amount), it’s just a joy.
Yes! It’s a lot of fun!
I grab up a lot of 12" singles, which have extended mixes of dance music. Apart from a few, those mixes were exclusively on 12" vinyl.
I remember first playing records when I was 3 years old. I loved watching the label spinning around and around. I had a small collection of records growing up as a kid but when used vinyl started getting cheaper that's when my love for record collecting took off. Now I have close to 1,000 records and 5,000 45 singles.
You’re hooked for life! 🤣🙏
Luv the channel and content. I used to deejay for 14yrs in California moved to PA and did net radio out of SF for another 10 years so I've played all formats and I agree vinyl sounds the best. Have you ever been to Get Hip Records in Pittsburgh. The owner Gregg Kostelich is the guitarist for The Cynics and has a warehouse of vinyl if I had to guess I would say at least a million Records and one helluva collection. I am good friends with him and he constantly is turning me on too new pressings. Keep up the good work. Peace!!!!
It can be a beginner just to have a few or a niche novice collector dedicating your sound system to the art of the medium. From the turntable to the cartridge to the amp & speakers and that too becoming the thrill of vinyl collecting is collecting gear & selling it to find the perfect play back system for the never ending love of collecting a library of music on vinyl. There’s the thrill of the hunt & the nostalgia & value and memories vinyl creates. I love cd’s but, there’s nothing more sexier or cooler than looking at a beautiful turntable playing a vinyl record that’s new or a a vintage collectible with a story behind it. Vinyl is the best medium out of all for those reasons. Having a cool room dedicated to records is also part of the experience. I love vinyl
Me too! Thanks for watching! 🙏
I never got rid of my vinyl that I started collecting back in the early ‘70s. I switched to CDs because I couldn’t get music on vinyl after the late ‘90s, but I went back to vinyl in the 2000s and never looked back. I sold my CD collection for pennies on the dollar.
Exact same story here, except that I've kept the CD,DVD,BD collection as well. Hello from Scandinavia. 👍
For a second there I thought Tim Gentry started a music channel 😅
I’m just now getting into vinyl and it was a bit crazy to see how expensive some of my favorite albums are in record format. But the way I see it, it’s a nice way to support the artists I enjoy listening to and to own the music in physical form.
I don’t know who that is 🤣 sounds like a cool dude.
Welcome to the fold!
While watching this video I finished putting the needle on my AT-LP120 and fully set up my new sound system I got for Christmas. No more Bluetooth or nothing just pure analog joy and it is magic. It’s crazy to believe how basic my setup still is lmao.
Awesome!! You’re in deep now!!!
Ditto!.. I bought an Audio Technica deck recently and started buying early 70's prog rock classics again: Led Zep, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Frank Zappa, Mountain, Van Der Graaf Generator, Tyrannosaurus Rex.. yes it's magical, moreover, it keeps me fit having to jump up every 20 mins to change the record :)
@@ephrimvael it seems we’ve got some similar taste, rock on 🤘
Disraeli gears was one of the first psychedelic records i got, probably around 83/84, i had a byrds style haircut and suede boots, lol. People used to yell " the monkees" out of passing cars, the eighties was really fun, i had a great time.
The vinyl vs cd debate shouldn't be about sound quality but availability of format. So many things only ever released on CDs, missing out tons of great music by only buying one format.
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This video really hit home for me. I got into records for largely the same reasons as you, bud. Fast-forward to 2018 & a band I sometimes work with (video & photo work) called The Clarks issued a vinyl edition of their new album at the time. I’d done all the photography for the liner notes & lyric panels. The CD layout was cool…but that vinyl edition was amazing. It was a classic gatefold sleeve. The band gave me two copies (signed). The first time I opened one up, all I kept thinking was: “Someday in the future, some kid is gonna listen to this record & look at MY photos & get inspired just like I did so many years ago.” It’s a cool feeling. 😎
Selling England By The Pound, a Genesis classic, especially Firth of Fifth!
the whole album is a masterpiece.
I don't care either brother. "It's all about the music". I have 1,400+ Albums but I also have 1,300+ CD's. I agree with you on your love for vinyl and the community. There's no other like it. Thanks man for you're video's. Peace and love.....
It becomes a ritual and it is such a personal experience to spin records.
The sound of wax cylinders is better! Great vid, man. Love your honesty and authenticity! Myself recoreds are #1, CD's #2, and Tapes/streaming High-Res #3. I love CD's and find many sounding better than their LP counterparts. Hey, how our brain rapidly unravels the highly complex sound wave nerve impulses, analyzes them, and interprets them, varies greatly from person to person. Oh, and let's not forget mastering/remastering/medium quality/etc. has much to do with reported sound quality. As you, if it sounds good it is good, period. Oh, and yes - I dream about records as well. I actually had one last night. It was beautiful!
I buy cds because they are cheaper, portable, do not degrade over time, even if I listen to them everyday, are easy to stock and have a terrific sound quality. I stopped buying vinyl 35 years ago. But I don't think one is better than the other.
Great video…I Love my albums and I also Love my cds. I do not stream Music but I do watch cool Music TH-cam Channels like this one and have even started my own! For literally decades now I choose one cd for my day, my ‘ride along’ and the reason could be anything that gets in my head to listen to that day. I’ve kept all my cool LPs from my youth and buy more records than cds these last 5 years probably. But, I’m not the same as everyone, not the same as you are Dylan; I am a fussy person and real clean oriented so I do not buy used records often; instead I tend to buy new records and than keep ‘em in pristine condition. I’m in a big kick these last few years to expand my RnR Record collection rather than be a completist for Bands/artists. It’s so interesting to me how people have their own styles and motivations for collecting Music…Love it!! Also, as well, I Love listening to good RnR Radio stations like Q107 in Toronto. ✌️
Hy Dylan (sp ?). New subscriber in the UK here. I toyed with getting a decent turntable for ages and watched a lot of videos and read a lot of scientific articles eploring comparisons of vinyl, mp3 and CD music tracks, and the conclusion at the end of it all was.... there's very little "physical" difference. BUT... now that I have a record player, I've immediately noticed that music from a vinyl takes centre stage more than CD or mp3 etc. I mean, I will sit down and listen and concentrate on an LP, whereas with a CD it just becomes background music very quickly, ya know? I like both, but if I want to actually LISTEN to (and EXPERIENCE) music, I'll put it on the turntable.
I have a question too: what is the most money you've spent on a record, either for your personal collection or for the business?
Thanks!
I know what I like and I like what I know. Ha! Keep up the great work, Dillon! By the way, love our McIntosh setup.
Vinyl done right feels like the band is in your room playing. Which goes hand-in-hand with my latest rule when deciding to keep a reissue vs. a first press. Which one moves me? Which one makes me feel something? That’s the one i keep. CD’s and streaming are like super clean 8-tracks or cassettes. Portability is their main advantage. That and programming a playlist. Great videos. Look forward to visiting the store sometime.
It's because of top class mastering engineers.
Spot on! Vinyl records are magic, CD's are science.
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My Dad gave me his record collection about 4 crates worth. I originally just framed to cool records and hung them in my music room and just enjoyed looking at them. Then I decided to buy a decent turntable. And now zero records are framed. They're all cherished and listened to on a regular basis now. Im hooked on vinyl now.
I've been looking for a vinyl copy of a band called It Could Be Nothing, I have the CD but a vinyl would be awesome. They're an alternative band from Charlotte and I don't if they even released their 1st album on vinyl! But hey..gotta love the hunt tho!
The hunt is what it’s all about!
I have a question about warped records. I have a Steve Goodman record with a slight warp on the edge causing the 1st 2 tracks to be unplayable. Ive seen on line slipping the vinyl between 2 plates of glass & warming it in the oven. Have you ever tried this? If so what was the result?
Can you please put that hoodie online for people to buy. I really want to get some merch and those look awesome 🤘🏻
I vividly remember while the neighborhood kids were buying transformers and other toys, I was saving my 5 dollar weekly allowance so I could go to the local shop and get some new music. It was an event for me, I remember getting Korn - life is peachy when I was 10 and it changed everything.
I've been comparing my vinyl copies to CD copies, and most of the time, the vintage albums sound better on vinyl. It really depends on the mastering. Tool's Fear Inoculum sounds WAY better on vinyl when I compared it to the CD rip, but that record was actually recorded to tape. Some vinyl records give you this three dimensional effect that digital can never touch. I'm a minimalist collector than ultimately wants a relatively small collection of records that clearly sound better than their digital counterparts.
Hey Dillon, can you talk about your record shelves? They don’t look like the ikea kallax that most go with? ..Including myself. My gf got it for me. Very expensive for “pressed wood” if you ask me! About $400 after shipping! I was gonna build something for my collection out of really wood but my buddy said it would be a pain so I just ordered the largest kallax they offered which I believe is like 25 cubes and holds close to 2,000 lp records.
Yours don’t look like the IKEA kallax ones? Did you build them? Can you share your build plans if so??
Love all your videos man!!! Keep up the awesome work!
Oh, btw I’m outside of Nashville. Now I’m on the hunt for that 45 you mentioned lol.
Mine are the kallax!
the 2x4 and 1x4 Kallax are the best ones. That big 5x5 one is not very sturdy, and it is clumsy and not easy to move around, or move at all - if you move to a new house.
I stack the smaller Kallax like Lego bricks. That way you can build a wall with them, and they are easy to move.
I could probably never put why I love records into words
Completely! 100% agree. I 💙 records!
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Fortunately I kept my collection of about 500 records from the 60's and 70's. We recently bought an entry level turntable and I am enjoying the records much more than cd's. The whole experience is better, from the buying, to the holding, to the playing, to the hearing. I've developed an interest in opera since my youth, so I've started buying used opera vinyl, which is available at reasonable prices...
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Man those were the days, finding Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd records for $5 or less….. the bulk of what I own was bought for basically the same reason you stated, way cheaper to buy the records.
Yep! Those were the days !
I’m currently focused on replacing 90’s cd’s , which are getting vinyl releases. Both 1st timers and reissues from small , rare and very expensive vinyl side batches to major 90’s albums. I want as many of them as possible on wax.
I spent 40 years of my life collecting over 10,000 LPs (we didn't call them "vinyls") starting in the mid-'60s－and then in 2015 I sold every single one of them to Silver Platters, a CD/DVD store here in Seattle that was getting back into vinyl. Why'd I do it? I was tired of the ritual. I was sick of the maintenance. I had taken a few hundred of the best & rarest ones and dubbed them to CD-R, first deticking and depopping them and doing everything I could to eliminate the groove rumble which is endemic to every single LP. By then most everything else I wanted had been reissued on CD. By then I had also purchased a sub-woofer flat to 15Hz, which made me realize that there are TWO OCTAVES missing from every LP. So all y'all who are thrilled to spend $40 on a 1950's mono jazz album with the sound of bacon frying in the background, enjoy. I was one of you once.
I have a simple response whenever I need to explain why I prefer vinyl over other formats. It's fun! That's it, it's fun to put a plastic disc on a turntable and listen to music come out of it. Of course, I'm into all the technical aspects, what's are the best pressings of an album, and so on and so forth, but at the root of it is that I get enjoyment from it. 🤷♂
Vinyl sounds warmer than digital, which I find appealing. I also love it for the tactile aspect and the history.
I agree with everything you've said here. I will add that there is science to back up why vinyl sounds better or "warmer", analog sound waves vs digital sound waves with analog being how records are recorded and we talk in analog so vinyl sounds more natural.
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QUESTION, where can I buy a book that has the list of vinyl records releases and which are first prints, ?
One of the best ‘CD compared to Vinyl’ demos I’ve done - Def Leppard Pyromania OG Vinyl & OG CD…. Very easy to hear the difference…. Not saying one is better or worse…. But the difference in the sound is absolutely there …. Give it a try - one of the best ‘this what is meant by ‘warmth’ & this is what is meant by ‘crisp’ demos out there
Love the vids as always and hoping to swing by again next time I’m in town from NJ.
Whenever I get a record, I’ll put it on while simultaneously playing the same song on my Spotify and I’ll switch the headphones back and forth between my turntable and phone to compare the sound. I almost always find that while the Spotify version sounds fuller and more bassy, it also sounds more muffled and flat. Whereas the vinyl version, while more trebly and thin, sounds so much wider, clearer, and more realistic.
I’ll add though that while I greatly prefer to hear jazz and classic rock (and old school electronic) on vinyl, metal to me sounds a lot heavier digitally. Even though metal on vinyl still sounds more dynamic and crisp, it sounds like it has more of a punch on digital media.
In certain genres the liner notes sealed the sale. For a long while I was into REAL blues, and the scholarship on the back got me to buy gems that are still in my collection half a century later. Son House, Skip James, Dave Ray …
Yes! I agree!
I grew up listening to Vinyl albums and 45 and I switched to CDs around 1987 or 1988 because they were smaller and easier to store. I kept my vinyl albums that I had too. One reason I like about CDs they are harder to damage. I do wish they had made the original cases bigger so the artwork was bigger. DVD size case would have been better for artwork. I like CD now too because I can rip them and put music on my phone to listen to it while I'm working in construction. I'm sure vinyl does sound better but where I listen to music the most it doesn't need to sound the best.
So sometime how you listen to it does matter.
Over the years I have bought albums on vinyl where I wanted the bigger artwork that had a lot of detail in it. One example is the Steve Perry Traces album.
I heartily concur. Are records better, I don't care either! I love the whole vinyl medium-collecting, searching, playing, care, artwork, etc.. My audio system sounds spectacular and that's al that matters to me.
What's the record at 3:08?
As a former collector with over 3k albums, I think this was a fair assessment. I collected records right up until 1990 or so as that was the format. I had a decent system though not what you would call higher end. I was not able to afford the rip-off prices of CD’s when they first came out, so I wound up taping my friend’s albums instead as well as spending hours at record shop listening stations lol.
As someone who never could afford a really high end sound system, streaming has been a Godsend. I have access to pretty much whatever I want to listen to (yes, there are a lot of obscure titles that remain frustratingly unavailable) and with a high end pair of Grado headphones it sounds awesome to my ears. I actually prefer the digital sound to vinyl; no surface noise, no skips, not having to get up and flip the damn thing over, the limited space for music, etc. I remember being absolutely infuriated back in the day when I had purchased a copy for Brian Eno’s Apollo Soundtracks and there was very noticeable surface noise on the record which completely ruined the experience for me. I returned my copy only to discover that all of the copies in that batch had the same issue. I longed for a format even then that would be clear and quiet. Of course, that format came, although the jacked prices for CD’s in the early days ruined that for me as well. Finally streaming came along and has largely resolved those issues for me. I never had the means to purchase the type of high end system that would make the obsolete format that is vinyl worthwhile, and even then it is down to the quality of the mastering and not the format. I get that some people like the so called “warmth” of the vinyl sound (which is really simply because of a compressed dynamic range) but I have done many comparisons of both (not on a 50k sound system to be fair) and I prefer the clear, open and expansive sound of digital. At the end of the day, this is a personal preference even though digital is the superior sound format from a purely technical perspective.
What I DO miss about vinyl and is accurately described here, is three things. Firstly, the album cover artwork. Sadly, this is something you cannot get any other way and holding that album jacket in your hands (even if the format inside of that jacket annoys) and enjoying the artwork snd sometimes the lyrics printed in front of you is something you just cannot get any other way and I have had to accept that this is no longer part of my music experience.
The second is the music store experience a d that sense of community as described here. I really do miss going to the shops, flipping through the bins and finding a completely unexpected jem that I didn’t even know I was looking for, as well as having conversations with the shop attendant (and sometimes other customers) about it and music in general. I think that is why YT channels like this one exist as an attempt to replicate that community, though it’s not quite the same.
Lastly, I have had to relinquish that sense of ownership which can only come when you purchase a copy of an album or CD. This was not at all easy but I have gotten used to it, just as using a Kindle or IPad has rendered owning physical copies of books unnecessary. That said, if a streaming platform does not have the rights to a favorite title there is no other way (except inferior sounding uploads onto TH-cam, if available) to hear that music.
In the end, as concluded here, it is up to the listener and which of these factors matter to them. I really had no choice but over time learned to be mostly happy with my options.
Personally, I will never return to those outmoded and noisy pieces of plastic over the convenience and, to my ears, excellent sound (top tier streaming of course) I get through my headphones. Then again, I couldn’t afford to eve if I wanted to.
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We actually have Spotify set to high resolution mode, and on most albums it sounds worse than those "noisy" vinyl as people like you typically generalise because you do not know better. You just remember YOUR noisy vinyls. 😂
I enjoy the ritual of flipping records and listening to the entire album, not just my favorite songs.
Personally, I find a paper cone placed directly in the groove does it for me every time, Dillon!🤣
Simple enough!!!
I don’t mind vinyl but I like cds much more they don’t wear out
My records from the 70s and 80s, even the 50s and 60s are still not worn out. This depends on the system, stylus, if it is properly set up (tone arm weight), if the records get worn out or not. Those who never swapped out their stylus destroyed their records, or used too much force.
The problem with many CDs is that they are very badly mastered. Don't get me wrong, I have CDs to die for in quality, but most of the time when I go back to my old CD collection, I wished they hold up in quality compared to the vinyl counterpart.
The problem with discs (CD, DVD, BD) is that they eventually rot. They oxidise slowly because of its construction of layers, metal-film and glue. Oil will not.
Totally agree with you, also to me vinyl is better. The whole feel around it. Going into a record store or a vinyl market or even flea market you always wonder what you will come home with. It may be a long sought album, or one you once heard and forgot how good it was or as you say because the artwork attracts you. In the last case you really wonder what it will be especially if you didn't find it in a designated section, like heavy metal (wherein I got introduced to Empress AD by the artwork of their album Still life moving fast... and freaked out in a positive way when I got home). But it's not only the collecting, it's also sharing your finds with friends who also really like to listen to music. It's a world in itself...
Your initial thumbnail was was creams iconic album, my wife knew Jack Bruce he lived in a village in essex called alphamstone lovely bloke . Vinyl is 👌
I don't like vinyl anymore, and I've preferred cd's for many years. because they don't make noise. And others advantages.
I had the same origin story collecting records, except it was the early 2000’s. CDs were like 20 bucks, records were at the time like 5 bucks and under. I wanted the Who Live at Leeds. A thrift store turntable and the record was about the same price as a new cd.
When ever i go out of town on trips i do two things goggle record stores near me and bring my running shoes. I love buying clean used records and imagine the owner before me
Are certain frequency of bass that CD cant pick up, notice it missing on all my favorites on CD..reel to reel was actually known as the best sounding back in the day..
Yep that’s true, but I think it’s hard to find a good player that works reliably and the tape degrades every time you play it. But beyond all that. I like records 🤣
Bass is mastered in mono on vinyl records. It certainly gives it a distinct sound. If you have original 70s records, man they knew how to do their thing back then, plus you get the freshest sound as close to the master. People like Chad knows how to continue doing this along with his staff.
Vinyl is just fun because there’s an ecosystem that pulls you into an immersive experience. Some CDs sound amazing - better than the vinyl counterpart. But how often do I put in a CD, sit down in a comfortable chair and enjoy the music while reading through the liner notes? Listening to one record always leads me to want to hear more and more and more, like jumping from one band to another. Never happens with cds or streaming.
Vinyl is NOT better, it is just an amazing physical alternative. Does it sound better, that is subjective and completely dependant on your media and your equipment. At the very high end of both, it's still debatable. Let's just say hq vinyl played on hq equipment will give any digital a run for its money, better it, and the warmth cannot be denied.
At the low end, the charm of handling records makes up for how it sounds on low end equipment.
Why are records not the end all be all, easy. I am on my bed, listening to my great equipment playing in my living room. I have 5714 songs set on random on this playlist alone, a skip is one press away. I can also disconnect from the big stereo to my Bluetooth speaker, set a timer for bed and drift off.
I get how great my records are. I love them. I adore them.
But 5714 songs on random that sound 90% as good as any record I have and I don't have to get my ass up to flip a record every 17-24 minutes, set on a stool every second time I do that trying to figure out the next masterpiece to drop the needle on? Sometimes the greatest gift you can give YOURSELF is 5714 songs that you love set to random.
But no. My records are not for sale.
Cheers.
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