Even if this cup is after been examined from the right time and era, the correct Roman territory, even has been used by Jesus I his 33 years of life numerous objects he will probably have used, will search for them also; Like Jesus Clothes, Jesus crafting material as carpenter! And for the 😅 Jesus diapers maybe with 2 k y old baby poops 😂😂😂
What does bother me slighly is how an American claims to have discovered it and fully researched it, when in fact its been well known about long before she got involved.
Just like the Europeans “discovered” the Americas and islands across the South Pacific. Much to the surprise of people who had been living there for thousands of years. Get off your high horse.
Of all the stories from antiquity that I find dubious, this one is right up there. The Grail was never supposed to be anything other than a standard drinking cup that this inn or restaurant used for this particular dinner party. Probably it was fired clay or something, but NOTHING fancy! It was just a plain old cup. Did they steal it from the inn? Probably not. So it was washed and re-used, 2000 years ago! Nobody knows what it looked like. This "search for the Grail" is crazy!
Jeebus must have had an incredible 'going out of business' sale of all the furniture he'd made over the decades to be able to afford a cup like that. Tales for the credulous.
It's not impossible, but it's not provable. So her journey to document the history was an amazing story. It is an amazing item to have survived the times.
Actually, the Holy Grail is a myth, but has a real reference, a real object : The Chalice of Princess Urraca. When Chretien de Troyes wrote about a "golden chalice owned by a princess" he wrote about a fact that he probably listened at the trouvadours who went back to France from the Kingdom of Leon ("the North of the Gothic Spain , as Wagner told"). Some queens and dukes from Bourgundie and Aquitanie married with the royal leonese family along the XI and XII century. And Princess Urraca had got an amazing "golden chalice covered by jewells ". The french trouvadours knew it and saw it. The onyx cup is dated : I century . The gold and jewells were added by the princess. about year 1.060. Princess Urraca ordered to paint a big Last Supper painting just at the place where she was buried. The Chalice (the Holy Grail), the tumb and the painting exists. You can see them with your eyes.
@@CantHandleThisCanYa I was referring to those that clearly believe otherwise, like the Pope and those that kept secreting it away to ensure it didn't get destroyed or fall into the wrong hands! I presume you at least agree that THEY don't believe it to be a Myth!
@@lw3646 The magic, and the god status attributed to a Jesus is what is primarily the mythos. Show me a body for Jesus , show me the DNA, until that happens the jury is still out as far as what is real and what is not. Just another magic tale from a roman mystery religion until then.
considering a carpenter would not have access to gold / silver or any rare materials the holy grail (if it existed) would be wood... something that probably would not have survived this long...
The COMMENTS on this video are quite the wild ride… Some are sincere, many are sarcastic, and some reveal how pervasive the ideas are that came from various other videos 😂
What I can't understand is, how did the followers of Jesus afford to pay for a grail that was made of gold and a precious stone cup? The following of Jesus was were supposed to be poor people and could barely scrape by themselves.
Watch the video. All the gold and jewels are medieval additions. The fancy stone cup on top was common for high status households of the first century. The idea is Jesus was a guest in a rich house for Passover. My question is why would the rich host give the fancy cup to Peter in the following days?
@@cherylyoung440 You can test this pretty easily. For example, write down one thing that you'd like to know in the next couple of days, and after this, keep your senses heightened. The answer will come to you.
Jesus was a poor carpenter having dinner with his friends in a room in an inn. There is no way he was drinking out of an agate goblet. Maybe a coarse metal one. I always thought it must have been a silver alloy at best or bronze.. a cup. The Grail is more symbolic I think, it would be lovely if it was real. But it’s not an agate goblet studded with jewels. I would love to celebrate Mass with that chalice though, what a privilege.
The Bible never says Jesus was poor...In fact, it could easily be argued he actually had means. He was an artisan and skilled wood worker. He attended events hosted by wealthy people, i.e. weddings...In addition, 2 Corinthians 8:9 says, "For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich". I digress, the chalice that the Roman catholic church has is a plain cup, the church was the entity that adorned it with jewels and precious metals.
I'm only 3 minutes into the vid, but I'm gonna go with "The Last Crusade" here and say that doesn't look like the cup of a man of antiquity who lacked substantial means. Perhaps Yeshua's religious sect had really taken off by the time of the last supper, and contrary to the classic perception of the man, he was rolling around like Billy Graham?
Since you were too lazy to share the actual texts, here they are: Matthew 12:39 says, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah”. Matthew 6:4 says, "so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you". Just wondering what your point is here. Thank you.
oh sure, yeah a poor Jewish rabbi had a chalice, not a small clay cup like the times would provide. guess if youre going to make a tale add many flourishments.
It's Catholic imagery. They see Jesus as the King of Kings and, therefore, chalice. And it stems a lot from Renaissance paintings where Jesus was in the likeness of someone's son
The cup Jesus used in instituting communion has likely decomposed to dust. When are people going to learn that objects don't matter. Worship the Lord, don't worship a stupid cup.
@@trikepilot101 I believe you'll find you don't actually make the rules for commenting on youtube. I don't believe not commenting on videos one hasn't watched is among the actual rules.
The suggested chalice is a treasure, worth much more money than the simple followers of Jesus could have ever owned. The real chalice would not be an earthly treasure. It would have been simple, probably a clay/handmade cup as was common to that time.
Yeshua words, was the holly grail not a cup . But he will come back to Jerusalem he will come in from the west doors and the time is coming sooner then yall think but it’s his words that was holly and not a cup
The problem with these timeline videos is their strong anglo-centric slant. Like we need an American author to investigate something which has been known about for centuries. But, she made an "amazing discovery!!!" It's the typical hyperbole which is so irritating sometimes... And then there are the historical plot holes. The typical sentence "historians would have believed".... "it;s entirely possible that..." "could have been taken..." The reality is, you have no proof until later 1300s, so you are literally working backwards from a predetermined hypothesis, building the right answers instead of asking the right questions... 50 minutes of theories for a couple of disclaimer sentences at the end... "of course this story has a lot of holes" "mostly have to accept circumstantial evidence" Waste of time.
Why do people take things so literally when the Bible was not written to be taken so literally? It’s laughable that every time someone digs up an ancient ship hull, so many think “Noah’s Ark has been found.” 🙄 The story is not literal, people.
You have to distinguish between the old and new Testement. Clearly Genesis takes place in an unspecified period of world history, somewhere vaguely in the Middle East involving giants and people living to 900. There is some truth to it though the transition from being nomadic to a settled life.
In the Middle East it’s more likely to have been ceramics. I know he was supposed to be a carpenter & maybe he would have carried wooden objects to show off his skill but generally speaking, trees were fairly prized. Mud clay was everywhere. The “middle” class, the merchant class & below probably had pottery.
This documentary feels like a real-life Indiana Jones adventure-unraveling centuries of mystery and myth! Makes you wonder if the truth is hidden in plain sight.📸I also have a history channel and I hope everyone can check it out and give me some feedback so I can improve myself.
To say such words as Holy Grail cup has some divine properties - then the Holy Fork, Spoon, knife, plate, table top, ... one needs to have the Holy Wine pottery bottle ... and the Holy Chair with the utmost direct of all contact-time with the Christ, ... also mention the direct contact of the Holy Toilet and Holy Toilet Paper !!! All balderdash ... especially with such issues as the false concept of the item having salvific properties !
Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe that Jesus existed. And just like people that know history in general. Obviously they differ on the whole being God part but it’s pretty clear that, historically speaking, he existed.
There’s archeological and ancient documents from the opposite side of Jesus that actually proves Jesus did exist and was a real person. When you have atheist discuss this evidence, they can’t even deny it. Just saying.
Sang reale, san greale, san reale, holy wine is the holy blood, the chalice is the symbol of the source or the womb. The reality is it is both and so there are endless grails. No use to chase around. The truth is also, he shared is cup with everyone, so chastity in the church is a myth
No, saved you 50 minutes and 26 seconds.
Thanks, I wasn't sure I could stomach 50 minutes of quasi religious bs
Came here to exactly the same thing. . . Who do people keep looking for something that never existed in the first place 😅
Wow, spoilers..
Thank you
Even if this cup is after been examined from the right time and era, the correct Roman territory, even has been used by Jesus I his 33 years of life numerous objects he will probably have used, will search for them also; Like Jesus Clothes, Jesus crafting material as carpenter! And for the 😅 Jesus diapers maybe with 2 k y old baby poops 😂😂😂
What does bother me slighly is how an American claims to have discovered it and fully researched it, when in fact its been well known about long before she got involved.
Just like the Europeans “discovered” the Americas and islands across the South Pacific. Much to the surprise of people who had been living there for thousands of years. Get off your high horse.
Jesus wouldn't have used a elaborate cup, a simple one.
Of all the stories from antiquity that I find dubious, this one is right up there. The Grail was never supposed to be anything other than a standard drinking cup that this inn or restaurant used for this particular dinner party. Probably it was fired clay or something, but NOTHING fancy! It was just a plain old cup. Did they steal it from the inn? Probably not. So it was washed and re-used, 2000 years ago! Nobody knows what it looked like. This "search for the Grail" is crazy!
Umm do you think Jesus would have had such a fancy stone cup ?? No I don’t. He probably would have been drinking from simple clay cup
The video says he was a guest in a rich persons home. Perhaps the same rich person as offered up a tomb?
You always provide such valuable information!
Where would they have gotten a jeweled crusted chalice?
Watch the video to find out. It explains that.
Jeebus must have had an incredible 'going out of business' sale of all the furniture he'd made over the decades to be able to afford a cup like that. Tales for the credulous.
Wow.
I don't buy this video, but you either didn't watch it, or missed several key points.
So who took the chalice after the last supper?
Short answer: no, because the Holy Grail was a literary construct from the Middle Ages, not an actual object.
Good God, how ridiculous.
It's not impossible, but it's not provable. So her journey to document the history was an amazing story. It is an amazing item to have survived the times.
Or to put it another way, it's plausible but not demonstrably true.
Actually, the Holy Grail is a myth, but has a real reference, a real object : The Chalice of Princess Urraca.
When Chretien de Troyes wrote about a "golden chalice owned by a princess" he wrote about a fact that he probably listened at the trouvadours who went back to France from the Kingdom of Leon ("the North of the Gothic Spain , as Wagner told").
Some queens and dukes from Bourgundie and Aquitanie married with the royal leonese family along the XI and XII century. And Princess Urraca had got an amazing "golden chalice covered by jewells ". The french trouvadours knew it and saw it.
The onyx cup is dated : I century . The gold and jewells were added by the princess. about year 1.060.
Princess Urraca ordered to paint a big Last Supper painting just at the place where she was buried.
The Chalice (the Holy Grail), the tumb and the painting exists. You can see them with your eyes.
I own Santas hat and the fountain of youth. That cup needs me.
Hey, I've got a really nice bridge you might be interested in buying.
The cup of Christ 🧉
What people think the cup of Christ looks like 🏆
@@pagerhoads1531 it would be a C cup.
Why was it never returned to the Vatican?
Because it's a myth
@@CantHandleThisCanYa I was referring to those that clearly believe otherwise, like the Pope and those that kept secreting it away to ensure it didn't get destroyed or fall into the wrong hands! I presume you at least agree that THEY don't believe it to be a Myth!
Is that one guy a hobbit?🤔
Don't think so.
I never think. I have no brain.
My guess is no.
I’m going to say , NO. , if it was it would have been the story of the century and would have made headlines all over the world !!
Exploring a myth, within a myth, is still just a myth.
It's not mythology. Jesus was real, Pilate was real, Herold was real.
@@lw3646 The magic, and the god status attributed to a Jesus is what is primarily the mythos. Show me a body for Jesus , show me the DNA, until that happens the jury is still out as far as what is real and what is not. Just another magic tale from a roman mystery religion until then.
still looking for mary magdeline's lost home pregnancy test. so many questions were left
03:21 which was ??renotated???
To start with,,, no one knows what it looks like,, it will never be found
Well, if you take a sip and start looking like Doc Brown from "Back to the Future", you'll know it isn't. 😉
What was this womens big discovery then and what exactly was she researching? Seems like an extremely well known and fully studied story already.
The Shroud of Turin is the Holy Grail
Explain how Jesus drank from the Shroud of Turin
considering a carpenter would not have access to gold / silver or any rare materials the holy grail (if it existed) would be wood... something that probably would not have survived this long...
Please watch the videos before commenting. This is addressed in this video.
Only the GOOGLE knows.
The COMMENTS on this video are quite the wild ride…
Some are sincere, many are sarcastic, and some reveal how pervasive the ideas are that came from various other videos
😂
The video is very interesting and useful.
NO... how can you find a cup use by someone who never exist 🤔
Jesus existed. That's not really up for debate. Everything else he did? That's up for debate
@@soulknife20 links that prove Jesus existed please
@@codasm pretty sure the Internet wasn't available 2000 years ago. But if you want proof of Jesus, go check out the dead sea scrolls.
@@codasm No. Do it yourself. I can't put links in TH-cam comments. Be an adult.
No serious historian denies the existence of Jesus. There is as much evidence for Jesus as there is for Caesar.
I don't think it is as Jesus's was an carpenter, I think it might have been a carved wooden Chalice.
It's a myth honey
Watch the video. Wood could not be made ritually clean according to Passover rules.
If you wanna believe it, there’s no amount of logic that can change your mind.
Yes
Monty Python found it and will never let any of you chat bots look at it.😅
What, behind the rabbit?
Who narrates this?
NO!!
I don’t drink wine
What I can't understand is, how did the followers of Jesus afford to pay for a grail that was made of gold and a precious stone cup?
The following of Jesus was were supposed to be poor people and could barely scrape by themselves.
Watch the video. All the gold and jewels are medieval additions. The fancy stone cup on top was common for high status households of the first century. The idea is Jesus was a guest in a rich house for Passover. My question is why would the rich host give the fancy cup to Peter in the following days?
So where's the Holy grail now
Good question, Aguatto
The Holy Grail is in Leon (Spain) .
I think the holy grail is the promise of eternal life not a thing
The promise of eternal life is in the bible. The holy grail is a later tradition. In the earliest legends it is explicitly a vessel of some kind.
No
If you put it to your lips, you'll have a holy experience. You can drink from it. And it can provide life. Hmmmmmm . . .
The holy grail is YOU. God created a man in his own image. You're the creator of your own reality. You're a God.
Interesting
@@cherylyoung440 You can test this pretty easily. For example, write down one thing that you'd like to know in the next couple of days, and after this, keep your senses heightened. The answer will come to you.
Jesus was a poor carpenter having dinner with his friends in a room in an inn. There is no way he was drinking out of an agate goblet. Maybe a coarse metal one. I always thought it must have been a silver alloy at best or bronze.. a cup. The Grail is more symbolic I think, it would be lovely if it was real. But it’s not an agate goblet studded with jewels. I would love to celebrate Mass with that chalice though, what a privilege.
The Bible never says Jesus was poor...In fact, it could easily be argued he actually had means. He was an artisan and skilled wood worker. He attended events hosted by wealthy people, i.e. weddings...In addition, 2 Corinthians 8:9 says, "For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich". I digress, the chalice that the Roman catholic church has is a plain cup, the church was the entity that adorned it with jewels and precious metals.
Its imposter such a gold jewel emblazed cup was the drinking vessel of a poor carpenter and street preacher. It’s 100% not a cup used by Jesus.
I'm only 3 minutes into the vid, but I'm gonna go with "The Last Crusade" here and say that doesn't look like the cup of a man of antiquity who lacked substantial means. Perhaps Yeshua's religious sect had really taken off by the time of the last supper, and contrary to the classic perception of the man, he was rolling around like Billy Graham?
Seems unlikely
Looking good
It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage documentary about holy grail. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Not only is this not the grail, but none of the other venerated artifacts are real either, anywhere in the world
Jesus is my 58x grandfather, I _am_ the holy grail.
I truly think the holy grail is not a physical cup but Mary Magdalene womb.
Yes
You need to read more than novels and fiction. Most people are ignorant of the facts as best known.
@@stephengordon9956all religion is man made, so there aren't actually any "facts" other than: deities do not exist
Matthew 12:39; Matthew 16:4
Since you were too lazy to share the actual texts, here they are:
Matthew 12:39 says, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah”.
Matthew 6:4 says, "so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you".
Just wondering what your point is here. Thank you.
And priest are the biggest sinners known to man,
oh sure, yeah a poor Jewish rabbi had a chalice, not a small clay cup like the times would provide. guess if youre going to make a tale add many flourishments.
It's Catholic imagery. They see Jesus as the King of Kings and, therefore, chalice. And it stems a lot from Renaissance paintings where Jesus was in the likeness of someone's son
Didn't watch to the end, did you?
holy
No, the Holly grail is a simbol, as Jesus, as the cross as the 12 followers, the star and the three Kings!
See if Jesus was a real person and don’t Think he would have been drinking from a cup like that😂😅
Jesus was real. There are just way too many references to him in Roman texts. Everything else he did, the miracles, are up for debate
The cup Jesus used in instituting communion has likely decomposed to dust. When are people going to learn that objects don't matter. Worship the Lord, don't worship a stupid cup.
TLDW: no.
If you don't watch, don't comment.
@@trikepilot101 I believe you'll find you don't actually make the rules for commenting on youtube. I don't believe not commenting on videos one hasn't watched is among the actual rules.
The suggested chalice is a treasure, worth much more money than the simple followers of Jesus could have ever owned. The real chalice would not be an earthly treasure. It would have been simple, probably a clay/handmade cup as was common to that time.
magic cup
No no,,, she did not find it
Hahaha..it's actually a chamber pot...
not a fairy tale...and not the holy grail
No! Next and better movie please.
You need to read more than novels and fiction. Most people are ignorant of the facts as best known.
Yeshua words, was the holly grail not a cup . But he will come back to Jerusalem he will come in from the west doors and the time is coming sooner then yall think but it’s his words that was holly and not a cup
Some correct names for "Holy Grail": Lord of Lords. King of Kings. Messiah, Yehoshua, Jesus of Nazareth, Jesus Christ.
Would it matter if it was ? , i guess only if you are religious and gullible
NO.
No.
The problem with these timeline videos is their strong anglo-centric slant. Like we need an American author to investigate something which has been known about for centuries. But, she made an "amazing discovery!!!" It's the typical hyperbole which is so irritating sometimes...
And then there are the historical plot holes. The typical sentence "historians would have believed".... "it;s entirely possible that..." "could have been taken..."
The reality is, you have no proof until later 1300s, so you are literally working backwards from a predetermined hypothesis, building the right answers instead of asking the right questions...
50 minutes of theories for a couple of disclaimer sentences at the end... "of course this story has a lot of holes" "mostly have to accept circumstantial evidence"
Waste of time.
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No - but like all other Holy Grails - good try !!!
🦝
D vatican have it
Why do people take things so literally when the Bible was not written to be taken so literally? It’s laughable that every time someone digs up an ancient ship hull, so many think “Noah’s Ark has been found.” 🙄 The story is not literal, people.
You have to distinguish between the old and new Testement. Clearly Genesis takes place in an unspecified period of world history, somewhere vaguely in the Middle East involving giants and people living to 900. There is some truth to it though the transition from being nomadic to a settled life.
This video is too long and Christ cup would’ve been made out of wood
In the Middle East it’s more likely to have been ceramics. I know he was supposed to be a carpenter & maybe he would have carried wooden objects to show off his skill but generally speaking, trees were fairly prized. Mud clay was everywhere. The “middle” class, the merchant class & below probably had pottery.
See now that all it’s about money is the ruler of this word money lol satin haves yall by the balls lol
This documentary feels like a real-life Indiana Jones adventure-unraveling centuries of mystery and myth! Makes you wonder if the truth is hidden in plain sight.📸I also have a history channel and I hope everyone can check it out and give me some feedback so I can improve myself.
The answer is no lol there’s no holy grail, there never was a holy grail and nobody has found the nonexistent holy grail.
You’re welcome. ☺️
To say such words as Holy Grail cup has some divine properties - then the Holy Fork, Spoon, knife, plate, table top, ... one needs to have the Holy Wine pottery bottle ... and the Holy Chair with the utmost direct of all contact-time with the Christ, ... also mention the direct contact of the Holy Toilet and Holy Toilet Paper !!! All balderdash ... especially with such issues as the false concept of the item having salvific properties !
You all assume that Jesus existed
No, we KNOW HE did.
@@tonigirouard1548 good luck with that.
@@tonigirouard1548ok lmfao
Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe that Jesus existed. And just like people that know history in general.
Obviously they differ on the whole being God part but it’s pretty clear that, historically speaking, he existed.
There’s archeological and ancient documents from the opposite side of Jesus that actually proves Jesus did exist and was a real person. When you have atheist discuss this evidence, they can’t even deny it. Just saying.
Jesus came as a man who’s to say that he did not marry Mary ? Then they conceived a child of holy blood.
Janice is a fox!
no , grow up
Sang reale, san greale, san reale, holy wine is the holy blood, the chalice is the symbol of the source or the womb. The reality is it is both and so there are endless grails. No use to chase around. The truth is also, he shared is cup with everyone, so chastity in the church is a myth
With chastity you mean hygiene? Or do you mean literal women's wombs?
Christ was not a real individual he is a composite of multiple belief structures brought together.
That's not what leading historians say.
Nice one, how to be controversial for no reason. Unfortunately he’s mentioned in several historical text. Sorry.
silly woman
Nope !Why? Because it’s all BS
No. This is total fiction without any basis in fact. Hey, it's a fun story.
So where's the Holy grail now
No
And priest are the biggest sinners known to man,