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The “been there done that” of books is so bizarre. Some books get a complete pass for hitting all the same points we’ve seen before (or even get absolutely raved about) and others get dinged for it. Just completely random.
I think this happens when someone has a preconceived negative assumption about a book, and so they use the argument of it being "unoriginal" to dismiss it, or one book is just more obvious about the plot points it's hitting than another, even if they're the same points.
Yes I agree. It's totally unfair.
I don't know that it's always _unfair_ or even partrcularly random. I've slowly been sold on the idea that "it doesn't do anything new" just isn't a valid criticism for complex things. For instance we'd consider it a red flag if someone said: "I can't be friends with him, he's just a teacher from a mid-sized suburb who married his high-school sweetheart. I already had a friend like that years ago." What an insult to the rich tapestry of details in a human life. An ignorant dismissal of the immense range of interactions two people might share!
Books may not be quite as complex as human relationships (although I'd argue there's some overlap at the margins); but the general sentiment holds true. We engage with complex things like books (or people) on many levels simultaneously. Novelty of plot or character is only one of those levels. Even when every individual element is familiar, the combination of those elements or just the author's point of view or descriptive style can strike a chord with us and elevate something (for particular readers) above similar works.
@@Psittacus_erithacus To be fair, "it doesn't do anything new" isn't a valid criticism regardless.
But yes, agreed. And well said.
To be fair, if you're noticing how much of the book has been done before, it probably has other problems. Usually it's an indication that it's not doing those things very well, or that it's kinda boring so your mind is starting to fixate on structure rather than content.
“I’ve been putting together a video that’s going to be very very long” LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Totally agree with your ATLA take on the romance! I do love what they did with the antagonist at the end (trying to stay ambiguous 😅), I felt like that romance actually made sense and wasn’t cliche.
I’m really tired of the badass female lead who’s only badass because it’s trendy. Don’t get me wrong, I love a good female warrior (I myself love learning about combat and even own swords and a bow). It can be done well, but too often this character’s sole purpose seems to be to make a point, which takes away from their substance and complexity. There’s so many fascinating female perspectives that can be written or added to these characters, but aren’t touched lately.
Also dying for some good, upstanding fathers again ❤️
I totally get the frustration over the doormat love interest but I'd still take it over the brooding, rude, kinda toxic male love interests. :D And those characters don't have a lot of personality to speak of either beyond being tall, having dark hair and being possessive.
Love the new video series idea! Hope you include urban fantasy, a very underappreciated genre and my favorite to read from :) As for the Howl's Moving Castle opinion, I can't agree. I've read and reread the book several times, and it seems to me infinitely better, with flawed, well-fleshed out characters (especially Howl). I think it's fair to say that the book and the movie are 2 completely different stories which don't really have much in common except for some story beats. That's how I treat them at least
I completely agree with you! The characters and the world are so more complex in the books. The movie is beautiful but I always feel like something is missing in it because the characters aren't so well explored.
Absolutely agree. And Sophie is a completely different character in the book too, I prefer the book Sophie 100%
@@Gaerys me too! book sophie just has so much character and spunk and i love how she just seamlessly comes into her role, and the whole discussion that it opens on aging & what it means to be old, and just, yeah :D love her in the book
Hahaha I agree with so much, but Howl’s?? The book has so much more depth! That being said, I totally read it first and most people watched it first lol. That makes a HUGE difference.
I watched the Anime from Ghibli first before the book - but after reading the book, I actually love the book more than the adaptation.
IMO Diana Wynne Jones is simply a masterful children's author, and a perfect example of how we can approach kids literature and not use it as an excuse for lazy writing or subpar prose.
If you've not read it, I'd also recommend the Dark Lord of Derkholm and its sequel. They're not as deep but still very amusing deconstructions of many tropes and clichés found in fantasy.
I love the theory on Tumblr that the book is from Sophie's view and the movie is from Howl's point of view. They're very different but I love them both
I saw the anime first and the book actually made me appreciate the anime more. While they're essentially two different stories, some of the things in the anime made more sense after reading the book.
I love both versions, and book Sophie is one of my aspirations😂
You're right : don't read Crescent City ! I loved the first book at first (less on re-read) but then it goes down hill FAST ! And the books are so long it's even more infurating ! It really feels like the author as become a parody of herself :/
I'm with you on When The Moon Hatched and Fireborne Blade.
For fantasy romance, I really enjoyed The Witchwood Knot by Olivia Atwater. Oh, and for murder mystery, I love the Lord Edgington Investigates series by Dan Brown. They are light-hearted and funny and the perfect palette cleanser between dense fantasy books. 🙂
I am here for the tea❤
Now I am morbidly curious about When the Moon is Hatched. Can we get a video about it. Adored your Fourth Wing one
Love your videos! I did have a very different reading experience with When the Moon Hatched though. I really liked it. Much more than Fourth Wing. Maybe because I just started reading fantasy this year and just don’t know my better 🤷🏻♀️.
Drama queen book Howl > movie Howl
We are opposites on the Howl's Moving Castle thing, but I don't blame you. The movie has such great music and visuals and it's very atmospheric. I watched it before I read the book so that I would go into it without expectations, and I'm glad I did, because I love it still. I simply consider them two very different things (and occasionally complain about Michael's name change).
I am of the unpopular opinion that Crescent City was better than ACOTAR. I enjoyed the worldbuilding there more, at least. While all the ACOTAR girlies were complaining about how book 3 of CC was bad (because they were hoping for an ACOTAR-heavy book for spoiler reasons), I was just like "but it was fine??"
Cruel Prince is my fav romantasy it’s the perfect balance
I’ve been obsessed with the Thursday Murder Club! Especially as a fantasy first girlie and someone who struggles with thrillers. I think you’d like all the plot points and how people connect through all the books.
I love unpopular opinions, and this was a fun video! We all get to like what we like, and that’s a good thing!
You had mentioned Throne of Glass, which i love, i love the journey of everything and all the different storylines but i wanted to ask since you said you had read a few of the books, im looking for books that have witches written in a similar way. I loved the witches, they were terrifying with the iron teeth and nails and their utter brutality, also with the inner battle of humanity, it was fascinating and i never read witches like that and i cant find anything with witches written in such a way. Any books you could recommend? Also, the thing with the spiders being sentient and how they bargained for time with their spidersilk, anything like that? Thanks and i enjoyed this video very much!!
For your new series, if you're still looking for more fantasy romance, I *highly* recommend the Kindred's Curse Saga, the first being Spark of the Everflame. It's amazing, and balances the fantasy plot and romance so well, imo!
Love the new video idea! I'm generally a cozy romance reader but recently got into The Expanse series (Sci Fi). I'm enjoying it so much, although I have to take breaks from the seriousness of the themes lol. It is NOT cozy. I'm challenging myself to get out of my reading comfort zone this year, so I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on new genres or subgenres. I have not had any luck with romantasy yet either. Completely agree with Howl's Moving Castle. That book was so random that I had trouble following it lol. The movie is weird but I love it. The book is weirder. I donated it cause I won't be reading it again. I'm having the same problem with Once Upon a Broken Heart. I wonder if whimsy isn't my thing.
The Expanse series is excellent. Not something I would have recommended to anyone who told me they generally enjoyed _cozy romance!_ Just reinforces how much I should resist pidgeon holing people. We can all enjoy a complex variety of things! Maybe I should check out some cozy romance. Have any recommendations for someone who enjoyed The Expanse?
Excellent avatar, btw. First thought it was a lorikeet or maybe an eclectus but now I see it isn't a hookbill at all! Is it a sort of finch?
@@Psittacus_erithacus Hi! Thanks very much for the compliment to my avatar. It's a colorful crow! I designed it to fit a rebrand of my art, Vibrant Crow. The name is a long story, but I'm glad you like it! I monetized art skills for awhile under that name, but I draw for myself now.
The Expanse! I have always enjoyed Sci Fi movies and games, but books are more of a commitment. I'm on Book 4 now and definitely hooked although it makes me depressed sometimes. I wish everything could go well more often than it does. And death is on such a vast scale in this series. T_T
Cozy romance! My top pick is The Very Secret Society of Irregular Witches. It's an easy read with fantastical elements. The romance is somewhat low stakes while still going for the gut punch at least once. It reads like a Studio Ghibli film, like if you've seen Howl's Moving Castle. There are a lot of great characters, so the romance isn't the only thing to focus on. A high stakes one where the romance takes more of a back seat is Yumi and the Nightmare Painter by Brandon Sanderson. I wouldn't have called it cozy, but he does lol. And looking back I can understand why.
Do you have any other sci fi recommendations? I'm thinking about trying some of the Star Wars novels next. I love that universe but haven't read anything. I read Hyperion by Dan Simmons and really didn't like it. I think I have trauma from how depressing that book was.
@@heather9130”Death is on such a large scale” and you’re on book 4. oh. oh boy lol
Keep reading, is all I’ll say!
@@mduckernz My husband finished it and said it just continues to build until it's over. What does that meeeean? How can it possibly get any bigger or more tragic? I am so stressed but in a good way. Cibola Burn is my favorite so far. But I also feel like this one might hurt me the most.
Agree completely on Ponyo, it's one of the few Ghibli movies that I've watched and just do not get the love for. Everyone's obviously free to love whatever they want, but I do not understand. 😂
Also agree on Howl's Moving Castle, although I think for me there's a particular element in the book (kind of spoilery so I won't mention it) that really ruined the appeal. I also appreciate how well the movie weaves in the themes around war.
SJM is an author I can't get into. I started with Throne of Glass then ACOTAR and DNFed both of them.
Her writing style is also a lot. I think you either love or hate her work
I have a feeling, I'm probably alone, but Brandon Sanderson, I'm not a fan of his works, and I've tried soooo hard!
OKG SAME! I thought I was the only one. His books are so dreary.
I found When the Moon Hatched on Goodreads and thought it sounded interesting but I haven’t heard good things so I ended up removing it from my list. Seeing how thick it is validated that decision for me since I don’t want to have to go through the process of getting it and being disappointed. Plus I know the feeling of “this makes me miss [insert trash book]” all too well lmao
I remember someone talking about how, when you're new to something, you can a tropey book (it was about movies, but same-same) amazing and fresh (because it is fresh *to you*), and someone who has read a lot of them will think it's meh and will want and love something different and new, but it'll be too weird for people who are newer to the genre. I'm paraphrasing very badly, but I hope it makes sense ^^' I thought it was such an interesting point of view, and I wonder if that might explain some of your "unpopular" opinions.
I agree with the doormat comment. But I do think when an important secondary character is cardboard, if you go back and reassess the protag, frequently they are no great shakes either. Having plot relevance and agency can disguise weak character work.
A book that i think is around 50-50/60-40 fantasy-to-romance, that you might like bc i think it has pretty big Howls Moving Castle Vibes, is Emily Wilde's Encyclopedia of Faeries. It does, obv, have faeries in it, but it approaches it in a more classical "inhuman tricksy creature" sense than the "might as well be a werewolf/big dick humanoid" style that's so common in the wake of SJM. It does have a framing device of "woman's annotated notes as she goes on a research trip" that some readers find a bit dry or oddly formatted, but it's exactly my kind of cheese (and reads very well in audiobook, imo).
Please try or think about trying “ A Curious Beginning” by Deanna Raybourn. I just read the first book in the Veronica Speedwell series absolutely loved it! It is a mystery novel. Personally, I think it’s a great place to start.
will you watch the legend of korra?
Came from watching a couple of your Dear Writers videos, and if you're taking recs for subgenres, read both the Mercy Thompson and Kate Daniels urban fantasy series. And, oh boy, October Daye! If you branch into thriller/mystery and you don't mind a dash of horror, the Charlie Parker series by John Connolly is fantastic!
The Dear Writers is relevant because these series don't do the things you dislike and do the vast majority of the things you seem to want to read. 😊
I'm totally agree with you about Howl' moving castle 😍
I love "unpopular opinions", it always make for more positive content.
since it kinda gives people licence to tell what they like, instead of the usual "what you don't like"
Really like the honesty - and stay away from the Crescent City - you are not missing out!
I remember reading the sample of Fourth Wing on Amazon when it blew up and I ended up wondering like why is this popular? The writing was way too mundane for me.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that didn't love When the Moon Hatched 😂. I liked the world building of it, but it felt like a waste of work for the plot we were given. I struggled to finish it so much. I told someone it was better than fourth wing just cause I felt that the world building was more interesting and coherent, but if I had to choose one or the other to re read I think I have to agree that I rather re read fourth wing than when the moon hatched 🙈
I love Crescent City, it is one of my favorites.
Had the same experience with 'when the moon hatched'. Thankfully, fourth wing burned me so much that I'm now always suspicious of books that are hyped, and I ended up reading the preview before buying it. It was immediately clear to me that I won't enjoy it.
I agree about Howl’s Moving Castle!! I was honestly so disappointed when I read the book, I remember the drama with the sister was so frustrating to me lmao
There’s a trilogy no one talks about, called “Villains and Virtues” by A.K. Caggiano and it’s so much fun!
I feel like I hear about this series all the time on Reddit. Are you just talking about YT, or other social media sites?
Currently reading The Emperor's Blade by Brian Staveley (it's his debut I think?) and loving it so so much so far! It's my first book back into high/epic fantasy after a long long while and it's really refreshing! Honestly was thinking I could never go back to ya fantasy after reading this. Okay but I digressed, I mainly wanted to recommend this book if you haven't read it because I think it has a pretty good thriller/mystery element to it! And I'm slightly more than halfway through but I'm really curious and excited to see how all the plots will weave in together.
Hi Elliot, I've been really enjoying your content after I recently discovered it. I also don't understand the obsession with When the Moon Hatched... I don't feel like much happened, there's interesting concepts and ideas but they all just fell a little flat and formulaic somehow? Also didn't help that by flipping to the glossary at the back (it's in the back in my edition), I had to GO PAST A SPOILER also in the appendix, and ruined the ending for myself. Good job, publisher!
If you do A Fantasy Reader Reads Mystery, may I suggest A Morbid Taste for Bones, by Ellis Peters. It's set in England in the 1100s, and the main character is a monk. So it has that medieval setting that so much fantasy is related to. It's not long, it's quite well written, and it's the beginning of a series (so there's more if you like it) but doesn't end with any kinds of cliffhangers or loose threads (so it's still good by itself). It might also be considered cozy? I'm not sure what the parameters are for that, but there's definitely a wholesome vibe. My other suggestion would be The Bigger They Come, by Erle Stanley Gardner (writing as A.A. Fair at the time). That's the guy who wrote the Perry Mason novels, but I think this series is more fun because of the antagonistic relationship between the main characters, and that Lam always has the odds stacked so much against him. It also stands on its own. I always enjoy your opinions, popular or not.
My answer to movies better than books is always The Hunger Games because we get a wider perspective and I think they choices the filmmakers made really brought the books to life more than I experienced with the very narrow focus in the text (though I think the books are great too!).
I agree with the House Moving Castle! Love the book, but LOOOOOVE the movie
I agree. Ponyo was the worst. All she did was yell HAM the whole movie. 😩
So agreeing with you about Avatar...
For fantasy romance, I really enjoyed Court of Tricksters by S.L.Prater, it's the first book of fae trickster series, all of the books are entertaining I highly recommend.
I can't say one was better than the other, but Coraline the book and the move I think were as good as each other.
Thinking about the mystery genre? You should give Agatha Christie a try definitely.
When you get into Mystery/Thriller books, give "The Naturalist" by Andrew Mayne a shot. It was a fun read. If you delve into Urban Fantasy, give books by Craig Schaefer a try ( Faust Series or Harmony Black series).
the doormat love interest is literally the "polycule" (i don't consider it one myself lmao.) from iron widow
I'm not sure if you've talked about One Dark Window (by Rachel Gillig) before, but I'd love to hear your thoughts!
9:00 omg, I thought I was the only one that didn’t like ponyo. To me it could have been amazing but it wasn’t. It felt lazy or they ran out of ideas.
There's Luna showing off her manicured paw...🤣
Now I'm wondering who you didn't like from Stormlight.
I'm just hoping it's not Kaladin or Lift. 😅
I totally get your point about the romances in Avatar. It's easy to forget how young everyone is. Plus, when the first romance occurs, there's a bit of an age gap, at least maturity wise, between the characters who end up together.
I found Kaladin a drag
100% agree on the ships in ATLA
Same!!
I'm torn on the love interest discussion, to be honest, because I LOVE characters who feel like real humans. I think it's important in a story, especially if that story is romance, to spend time exploring who the love interest is, even if just through the eyes of the main character. I definitely prefer stories where the characters aren't caricatures or so ridiculously perfect, they're boring. But...Sometimes, I think it's fine if we don't get stalker level details on the love interest. Sometimes a love interest IS chill and mature and aloof, and I like that. I think this sometimes gets conflated with not having a personality just because the main love interest isn't a raging possessive alpha type. Or loud. Or kinky. Or overly confident. Or fond of bantering. Or wearing their emotions on their sleeves. Plenty of characters can have "personality" and be boring, in my opinion. I feel like I've seen the same love interest over and over again in romantasy...to the point where a lot of those books are a struggle for me. Because I'm older now and no longer find arrogant jerks who banter sarcastically and have a damaged past HOT. Give me that quiet librarian type with endearing quirks, who snorts when they laugh and is adorable...but moonlights in a motorcycle gang or something. There can be magic in mundane traits, too. I feel like so many books are afraid of showing that characters can be MORE THAN ONE THING, personality wise. I miss characters with nuance and diversity in traits.
I LOVED The Fireborne Blade!!
ooooohhhh yea i heard not great things about that romantasy book. looking forward to your video on it! 🤣
Great Video!
Thank you for the videos, I have picked up so many great recommendations from you. Did you ever do a review on Faebound by Saar el-Arift?
Tbh you were selling when the moon hatched to me haha
What made 4th wing hard to read for me was the constant horniness and everyone saying she is soooo smart but she never showed she was except for remembering stuff. Also it could've been 200 pages shorter and the characters felt younger than 21. So in what way is when the moon hatched not a good read? Is it just the tropes?
Im listening to ACOTAR right now but I’m only on chapter 5. I know everyone is like obsessed with it but I’m not a huge romance reader. I have a feeling I know where the romance is going trope wise but I’m holding out hope that maybe I’ll like it. My friend recommended it to me so I feel like I owe it to him since I DNF Red Rising which him and my husband absolutely love lol.
Stick it out if you can, you will not believe where the story goes, it has some really great creatures and twists.
I totally respect your opinion but I just want to mention I feel like crescent city (the first two books) are so worth it! They’re my absolute favorites by SJM
You sound like my daughter. Especially with the Howl's Moving Castle.
Time for a new "Funny One Star Reviews" video.
My jaw dropped at "it made me miss fourth wing" knowing how you feel about it. Never has a book review been so efficient in making sure I steer clear away!
When the Moon Hatched broke my brain. I am glad I'm not the only one that didn't like this book.
Crescent City, ugh, so many hours I wish I had back. It lacks in many ways. The first book is worth the read for the last 250 pages but my god, it is not an easy book to get into.
Oh no, "When the Moon Hatched" looked so beautiful I was almost tempted to buy it! But in this case I'm sure the things that didn't work for you would also not work for me.
I don't like Ponyo the movie. The story is just too childish to be Ghibli. One of the few Ghibli films I dislike. Alongside the ridiculously confusing The Boy and the Heron. Don't understand the hype at all 😂.
Okay, yes! When the Moon Hatched was such a disappointment to me! I found it so repetitive and irritating 😅 I was beginning to think I needed to try it again because everyone I see LOVES it.
dragon slaying is to cope with ILYENA my child the only species and soul in the magma core died in 2 minutes do to "tom cruise " and then it happened about 2 months ago
I’ve been “reading” crescent city for MONTHS now and can’t get through it lol
Ponyo is a unique retelling of The Little Mermaid but just isn’t as engaging as the other Ghibli movies. Howl is much more interesting and engaging in the book (I love how he razzes Sophie, Ms. Nose); there is just so much more depth to the characters in the book, but the movie is a masterpiece, that’s why both book and movie are top favs of mine.
If you ever do "a fantasy reader reads steampunk" I'd recommend an indie book, "The Streets of Whirly" by AM Rodgers.
I couldn't get through When The Moon Hatched. Really don't understand the hype for this book 🙈
I'm... sort of the opposite with When the Moon Hatched and Fourth Wing. I did not like Fourth Wing one bit and the more time passes, the less I like the book. I read When the Moon Hatched, and I'll completely agree that it's a lot of the same old same old, not great writing, pretty much only focused on how hot the MC finds the MMC, how she's basically a copy paste of Celaena (1000% agree), the plot needs some work, etc. Would not rate that book higher than 2.5 stars, and most of the time it's sitting closer to 2 stars for me. I wouldn't say that it was good or that I was wow'd by it, but I liked it better than Fourth Wing. Fourth Wing just made me angry. 😅 But, yes. Agreed that WtMH is basically just Celaena/Rhysand in a more modern fantasy world.
I prefer Throne Breaker over Wild Hunt, but its still a good game.
I love Ponyo! We recently lost our 19 year old kitty Shippo and she loved ham, so we used to always say "Shippo Loves Ham!"
So much to it considering when it came out! Very impressive animation!
For romance fantasy books, I don't like the fast relationships in the first chapter.
The movie better than the book for me has to be Practical Magic. I hated the book, and I DNF'd the prequel. I love this question so much!!
I just read Practical Magic! And while I didn’t *hate* it (I’d probably rate it 3 stars? Idk), it’s DEFINITELY a completely different vibe than the movie. The screenwriters really went in their own direction and honestly for good reason. Because that movie is just so freaking good.
I'm annoyed because I spent money on a physical AND audiobook of When The Moon Hatched and everyone I trust is saying it's poo. I don't think I'm going to like it but that sunk cost is going to kill me.
oh the AUTHORIAL LEGENDS are still getting the long "30yeartrip huh YESe."
I recommend the plot summary videos by Cari Can Read for Crescent City, they are great. I didnt expect much of the books, but I had a fun time with them. It's like a solid 3/5 probably, dont have anything really good or bad to say about them, other than it's just wild and all over the place.
Another movie better than the book? Michael Mann's "The Keep". I love the movie. I hate the book.
Grishams A Time to Kill is a better movie than book.
A good number of Kings books are better as movies.
Sin City graphic novels were better as movies.
The only Sarah J Mass book I've read is the first Crescent City book. I wasn't a fan of the romance parts, it's WAY too long (needed a firm edit), and the beginning was a confusing mess. But overall I was kind of blown away? I felt like it was a very ambitious book and I admire SJM for being ballsy enough to publish it. That being said, I'm not gonna bother continuing the series 😅 I hate Fae so I will never read ACOTAR. Throne of Glass I'm on the fence about trying.
I watched ATLA for the first time as an adult as well, and the romance did NOT do it for me. It's not well written and they're all so young. I have a hard time believing they'd stay together permanently lol
Ponyo is awesome! My nickname for my wife's butt has been "ham" for over 16 years. Even my kids scream it 😆
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I hate Ponyo!!!!😂😂😂
I agree with the Avatar thing, I don't mind the canon pairing but I don't love it either. The story could've done without it. I still prefer that ship to the popular fan ship, not my vibe.
But also many people who are huge Avatar fans watched it when it was airing so they were around the characters' age. So it makes sense why so many are invested in the ships.
Movie better than book? John Carpenter's "The Thing" is infinitely better than John W. Campbell's "Who Goes There?" which is considered a sci-fi classic and for the love of god, don't ask me why. The dialogue is excruciatingly bad. It's a cool concept wrapped in a terrible execution.
Lmao if something made you miss fourth wing that’s just……..
I don't luv when the moon hatched 😂 It is pretty awful !
I despise the doormat love interests with no backbone.
Yeah, really breaking new ground with the unpopular opinions here. Let me guess "9/11 was bad." And puppies are cute? Guna stop you there Plato. Being a gadfly is fine, but don't for a second tell me you like bread, and don't care for bad things.
@@myself2nooneInstead of being so bitter, maybe just redraft your poor excuse of a Novel lol
I agree with everything you said about Ghibli films😂. Ponyo is one of my least favourite Studio Ghibli movies, another being Arriety.
I was thinking about Howl's Moving Castle right as you said it! The adaptation adds & removes significant plot & character elements to make it a more cohesive story, while still preserving the feel of the book. I enjoyed the book, but I feel like it needed more editing.
She reads a lot I guess
Ah bummer, Crescent City is my fave series!