Are the Best Soccer Players Egotistical? - The Philosophy of Blue Lock
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- Today we look at the manga Blue Lock! We look at the philosophy behind Blue Lock and look to see what qualities makes a top striker, a top team, and much more. Lets see if you really need ego to be a top player!
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National Team: Loses*
Any other country: Man, the team sucks, "player x" shouldn’t even be call anymore, everything is the fault of the federation and "directive y"
Japan: makes a critical manga analyzing in-depth the flaws of the national team's philosophy*
A critical manga which idolizes only strikers...
@@sinofsloth8201 fr
You clearly haven't any idea what Germany did to re achieve their dominance, with fresh style of football that is now dominating football world
@@sinofsloth8201 Not idolizes, no.
That's like saying America idolizes non-gun violence just because Batman exists.
The manga, from what I've read so far, is designed to break social stereotypes that exist predominantly in Japan by basically saying "Guys, we don't have an ace."
From the very beginning, plenty of in-universe characters find the egotism thing terrifying, especially with the way Ego portrays it. If it idolized the concept, though, no such struggle would even happen. They'd just all go "he's right!" and call it a day.
Also, the world generally cares about strikers' names, and soccer players/footballers in other roles frequently have to work extra hard just to get noticed. Which is annoying, I might add, but it _is_ part of that sort of pressure that pushes popular names to try and live up to the expectations and attention they receive.
Haven't read it, but from what i heard of it blue lock basically says: if we had a world class player we would win
Well... Wow, what a discovery, that is not that true...
The problem is the competition at low level cups, if low the chance to create a better player doesn't increase
The country where i live is good at football(even if in decline) but the region where i live is one of the weakest
Half a million people but there are 80 teams, some of them represent towns with less than 2k inhabitants, most of the team are very weak, so most of the tournament we would play shit teams, never improving because there's no competition, and always the same teams over the years
The moment we play with mediocre teams from other regions, we would see the difference, normally losing or drawing with a bit of luck. Those teams normally represent 15k+ inhabitants towns and play more often a wider variety of opposing teams
To me blue lock has a very simplistic vision of football, whereas to improve it to a national scale you need large scale reforms, not a philosophy. Most of the teams in my region have this philosophy: "the striker has to be the one with more skills, everyone else to defend. Let the striker do everything when attacking, everyone else in the back defending."
Only when an entire team is capable of being on par with the other team, the striker will shine
You should have explored the clash between Ronaldo and Rivaldo in 2002 World Cup. Both wanted to score goals and don´t pass to each other. The brazilian media covered this, and even today people talk about it. I don´t know if you can find content in english talking about it. But for me, it´s the best example. While Ronaldo was more like a superstar, Rivaldo never really liked to appear on tv shows or interviews; but both were in some degree egotistical. There´s even a joke made by Ronaldo on the aftermath of the last match. They were on the bus, going to hotel, and Ronaldo said "I just wanna say that if Rivaldo was willing to pass the ball to me, I wouldn't have scored just 8 goals, but 16". Everyone laughed, even Rivaldo. On the last match, both had the same score, 6 goals.
In the final, Rivauldo played as a dummy to Ronaldo, so that Ronaldo can score. A pass was going to Rivaldo, he dodged it so that it reach Ronaldo. I think the clash is overplayed. RIvaldo, was the heart and brain of that Brazil team according to the coach, and Ronaldo was Ronaldo, the one everyone placed their bet on. Maybe Ronaldo said that as banter, because he missed another GOAT Romario, his greatest strike partnership. It worked.
@Anonymous Panacea nor in the NBA
@Matheus Marques I think Salah and Mane at Liverpool almost have a similar situation to what you have mentioned between Ronaldo and Rivaldo. They both are egotistical and lead their own national teams, Egypt and Senegal have both benefited greatly in football rankings. Also both of them have been accused of being selfish towards the other on terms of providing chances and assists at Liverpool.
The philosophy of blue lock is absolutely bs. It's completely unrealistic any football would know.
@@Account.for.Comment so ronaldo devoured rivauldo
This thirst for "Ego" is born out of a societal context. Japanese culture is in many ways suffocating. Heavily emphasizes and enforces conformity, there are many younger people who may dress or look different in an act of self-expression, but if you look deeper, any real challenge to the status quo and break from the norm is incredibly difficult and rare.
which brings me to my point: The lack of Ego is really saying the Japanese National Team "Plays to not lose, rather than to win". In Japanese society, the need to conform often outweighs the need to be exceptional. And likewise, the Japanese national football team's "team play" philosophy is a natural application of that ethos. So if its a team based playstyle, the whole team shares the responsibility. But if a egotistical player emerge, he will draw all the responsibility for whatever the outcome may be, and not care, just because he thought it was the right play. That is exactly the opposite of the values japanese society teach their kids from a young age, which are: be mindful of others, don't cause trouble for others.
That's why there are so few egotistical, or as said in japan メンタル強い (strong willed) players. Because its simply the opposite of what the society thinks is good and desirable. And if a kid had those qualities he would be a pariah growing up in school, because he would be less agreeable.
I can’t lie Japanese football team ain’t to far from the World Cup they just genuinely lack better keeper mid and winger
@@George-jc3mt pretty key pieces to contend seriously at the world Cup, this is what keeps them from advancing, in other words, pretty far from the world Cup.
Your comment is on the money.
Sure, but see how clean, traditional, polite and well mannered Japan is as a country compared to a country like America where there’s no shortage of people with big egos. There are pros and cons to everything.
I think they have some ego, they will not help if you get in trouble
If your definition of "ego" is a self-belief or confidence to drive you forward as a player, then yes. "Ego" in this case IS important in success not just individually but as a team, this doesn't apply to strikers exclusively as well, matter of fact, I'd argue that this applies to all other 10 positions on the pitch, not just the striker.
facts i see some people in this comment reaching so far to justify non sense
Yeah, "Ego" doesn't feel like the right word.
"Competitiveness" or "Drive" might be better imo, but even then you need more than one word to describe any single good player, and there's a lot of pretty different people who're good players.
@@taxinvasion260 It's about drive, it's about power
@@taxinvasion260 at the end ego is needed in sport all the competitiveness and drive come from an ego part tho
Healthy ego is important.
Ego that emphasized in Blue Lock also seemed like a self-critics to Japan's overly-collectivist society that has resulted in many stressfull environment and depressed individuals.
True. Blue Lock criticizes the whole society of Japan. Not just their football's style.
@@starb4453 What's wrong with you, the whole manga is all about "Ego enough, so to be good enough, teamwork only works when you are confident enough and smart enough" Stop trying to misinterpret purely because you never read it and only read the "review", "oversimplified" or "summary in xxx minutes"
Working 12hours for corporations it’s nothing near collectivism or collective society , your whole point is B.S , japan stress issues comes firstly from the greedy corporations and secondly from the culture and stupid traditions, man is that and women is this. Nationalism comes first certain stupid ideas . That you yourself have
@@everythingsfine1395 Isn't there that japanese saying that's along the lines of "hammer down the nail that sticks out". That sounds a lot like a culture that tries to eliminate any unique differences between people. I might be wrong though idk lol
@@1es782
It sound like society shouldn’t progress and change , which is basically like what conservatives usually wants , traditions and nationalism and ethnicity .
I think what the mangaka wanted to tell is that we need to have some degree of ego in ourselves to grow, teamwork is important but holding yourself back for the sake of teamwork is killing your potential.
I remember a quote in Kuroko no basket: "Simply getting along isn't teamwork"
Meaning that each player in a team need to be strong on their own in order to get a good teamwork.
In Blue lock first episode, Isagi passed the ball in critical moment instead of shooting the ball himself. That wasn't a team work, Isagi was the best player on their team, his team mates should have help him score for the team, not dragging him down.
well said
i was watching my friend play basketball infront of the crowd the other day. I am terrible at sports and I told him I didn't want to join as I don't want to embarrass myself. Me being terrible comes from my lack of confidence. I watched him play in awe as he was dominating the other team by himself and it was very obvious how hungry he was for the ball and his teammates noticed it and passes the ball to him every time. After watching the game, I realized that his character stem from not caring about what others think and being confident of his own abilities, basically someone who is egotistical. I believe It is a trait important to any noticeably good players.
Same but not y’know I was a defender in soccer and I would always get compliments being the best and being really good. I was that person who people who cheer and knew I could get the ball. Despite all those complaints I didn’t play this year due to my lack of confidence and my injury. I lacked confidence so much my stomach hurt not being I ate something bad but bc I was so nervous. 😭💀💀
the thing is the word "ego" had its meaning changed in the anime/manga, or its just "romanticized". Its obvious everybody is egothistical, but the right way to describe something like this would be, simply, confidence, a high self-steem
Or you just don't like basketball that much
@@umbela5646 No, not everyone is actually egotistical. Everyone sure has an ego, even if some people may not very self-aware of it, but not everyone has a strong one or well-developed one.
Plus, one of the very definitions of ego is *a person's sense of self-esteem and self-importance.* Nothing has been romanticized.
@@umbela5646 It’s not just confidence
“Normal” confident people wouldn’t make an active effort to steal a ball from the possession of their own teammate (which happens a lot in the Blue Lock manga, it’s basically 1 to 3 players against 21 to 19 every single time)
Egoism in this manga is this genuine lack of care for others, a total absolute dominating desire to stand out and shine in the spotlight of the field as this sole “hero” striker that makes everyone, friend or foe, kneel to him during the game
I wouldn’t exactly call that confidence (though confidence is part of it) - instead, it’s more akin to tyranny, or despotism
All of the best players in the world have an ego, no matter the sport. They may be nice people outside of the sport, but as soon as they’re playing a professional match, all bets are off & they go in, they just can’t help it
Being egotistical is necessary in basically every sport. In an activity influenced so much by your mentality and will to win, the overconfidence in your abilities necessary leads all the best athletes to have a huge ego, whether they show it outside of a match or not.
Kobe: What's there to be happy? Job's not done.
That's possible for a sport like basketball, because there's ton of evidence that a single player can carry a team (like lebron, or kobe for example), but that's impossible for a sport like football because the scope is way bigger and every player have their own specific role.....even messi can't carry barca to win ucl after iniesta & neymar gone
blue lock reach is getting crazy steph curry is one of the most unselfish leader the most unplayable team in football was msn which relied on one touch football all im saying is were does ego come into play the truth of the matter is its a childish mentality in real life
@@Soybean13 almost did
@@Gdgoat222 yeah and?? Barca always get comebacks from his opponet, and the 8-2 from munchen is a nail in the coffin.
In football you can do so many great thing offensively, but it doesn't matter if your back make so many mistakes...... it's the same if you played as a defender, you can organize your defense (like the way van dijk did on liverpool) but it doesn't matter if your attacking player can't score a goal.
In basketball, you can do both attack and defense, the court is much smaller and you only have 4 teammates
Japanese football sure needs a good dose of egoism. I see a guy like Minamino, number 10 of Japan national team, being grateful as a Liverpool bench player.
AHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!
Because he should be lol
@@AR-rg2en why so? When he can become a starter at Liverpool and an elite football player?!
@@lifeisanime7416 he is simply not better than Mane, Salah, Jota, Diaz, Firmino, and Origi, but he is a great player, it's just Liverpool is one of the top two teams in the world.
@@AR-rg2en whatchu talking bout? Minamino at his best is definitely better than jota and Diaz. He could play mostly as a holding midfielder behind the front 3.
A few thing, for people who seem to be taking it too seriously on its themes:
▪︎the manga-ka has actively shown that teamwork is still more effective in the manga itself. This is likely intentional.
▪︎The concept of an Ego can be applied to anyone on earth. You all have a little bit of it.
▪︎You can be egotistical about many things. It doesn't have to be about your ability to only be a striker.
Being egotistical about every move you make, even a pass, being the right choice for example. Thinking you always make the correct decision is still egotistical.
▪︎They portray the coach as somewhat of the antagonist. Give it time, because it seems clear it's not going the direction you think it is. The manga is showcasing a half truth. And the players themselves in the manga are starting to realise the potential of teamwork by themselves while ALSO having an Ego.
Its the entire truth actually, ego is important, as much as team work, example? barca, bayern, real, ac milan, all at their primes
Nice pointing it out. People are harping on what Ego says about how it's all about being the best individual. But really, the hidden meaning shown is that teamwork is indeed just better
@@HI-ki8nq If you notice Kaizen hinted this with spec dribble guy. "There is more than just one way to play."
Messi proves this wrong, he has over 40+ trophies, 7 Ballon'd or and 1100 G+A and yet he is not an self-centered and arrogant guy. If you are genius in what you do, you don't need to be self-centered
i feel like its the same with bachira. we dont see him being a great egotistical like isagi but he still has a healthy amount of ego. we might not see messi having this hard drive to win like other players but im sure he has the amount of ego to be considered as one of the best football player in history other than being a 'genius' and 'talented'
The Japan team literally blew a 2 goal lead. How can someone be like you know what we need a striker, no you need a better midfield and defense.
i think it was more about the mentality, look at recent comebacks, the entire damn real madrid ucl run, mfs came up and won from being down needing to score 3 goals, its more about the state of the players, its why real won, their ego played a huge part in their confidence to win.
@@mohdshahariar5833 yup "confidence" and they have ucl dna 😂
@@hashshashiin.forsī not really ucl dna mate, they have confidence, their "don't give up till the end" mentality
@@mohdshahariar5833 believe or not it's a thing and also some of luck 😂
@@hashshashiin.forsī luck yea, ofcourse
From reading Blue Lock I learned that Egoism is a concept that can be taken from a lot of angles.
For example, here in Uruguay ALL famous strikers have an attitude of being grateful for where they are and that it's not just thanks to them that they are where they are. The thing is, I don't think that egoism is a concept that contradicts what I just said and many people tend to think that. I believe that egoism for a striker is a concept that speaks about their attitude when playing. It's not about a striker being a complete jerk with his teammates, it's about him being conscious that he is the best one at scoring goals in the team and that the team acknowledges this, it's about making his own team feel like "if we manage pass the ball to him, the game is over" and to make your team feel this way, you have to show them (through your egoism) that you are really the best for that job.
It's like in the start of the manga, maybe you see that if you pass the ball to your teammate on your right it will surely end up as an easy goal, but instead of doing that you realize what are you capable of. That no matter how easy that pass and goal seems, you will always have more chances because you are the forward, you are the one with the number 9 in your back, you KNOW you are the best for that job and so you decide to shoot instead. Maybe it ends up as a goal and maybe not, but playing with that mentality makes the best forwards in the world, it's like a swordman swinging the sword over and over again until they are trully capable of making the perfect cut
In conclusion: Egoism is not about being a dumbass and egoism is not about not playing as a team, is knowing that in order for a team to be good at scoring goals, their forward must want to score everytime he touches the ball and not think about anything else. (although there's no need for him to be the only one scoring goals).
PD: There are teams that don't play with an unique forward and their mentality is much more team-oriented, like Pep guardiola's teams, this depends on every person. But I think that nowadays there's always a team that can beat that kind of "team-oriented" teams with pure efficiency, like Real Madrid for example.
Do that on pro football and you’ll end up warming the bench
@@everythingsfine1395 Do what?
@@everythingsfine1395 Oh fuck brb, I just need to bench Ronaldo
@@anonymousmouse7161
Wasn’t he benched lately, he is crying out on interviews about it , what a fake person
@@everythingsfine1395 you are calling ronaldo fake person! yes he has a very big ego but he is the realest of real ones! he never tries to make his image good for others! he is raw as a human comes..ronaldo might be anything but not fake!
Gotta share my thoughts on the manga:
Ego is using the Blue Lock elimination system to enforce an improvement and promote the players' individuality. As painfully brutal as his words can be, it makes sense that you have to stand out or you'll never make your dream a reality. The chemical reactions he puts emphasis on is to promote synergy so the players don't stick to one style in particular. He also promotes this further by making sure no team stays the same in terms of line up, he's essentially making the players learn to be adaptive.
This also makes me think Isagi's ability isn't spatial awareness but Adaptability in of itself.
His jigsaw puzzle motif really sells that idea of adaptability
Yes thats what im thinking too all he have is basic skills and nothing unique otherthan his adaptability and with that adaptability skill its more like his levelling up faster using normal skills vs just focusing on 1 unique ability.
Haven't read the manga but so far from what i watched from the anime i can see what you're saying here. His skills is somewhat basic compared to his teammates but i believe his most powerful skill is the tactical awareness he have in every game he plays. He is always analyzing the field and are able to see through the opponent's tactics. This clearly shown in the recent episode where he manage to pin point who is the mastermind of team Y in order to stop their counter attack.
@@hdWWtchR big yes on this. I reccomend you continue reading the manga. You're in for a massive treat.
@@orangeman3220it really does not and it’s cringey and played out even before it’s used in every action sequence lol. Like “I need to solve the puzzle.” It’s giving very “Sherlock” moving words around on the screen
I came here to see what Blue Lock reference were about after Japn 2-1 victory over Germany, repeat of Saudi shocker.
I have no clue about whether egotistical striker are best, but as someone who always falls short when I play football, I can say for sure that a (my) lack of self-confidence and self-belief definitely holds one back. That little bit of ego goes a far way in making yourself try plays and passes that create opportunities to score and win.
This is true for every sport. You can practice all you want but if you don't believe that you can beat your man, you won't be able to beat your man.
Facts, I struggled with it too
Confidence doesn’t come from ego , but from believing in your training and skills and talent . Ego comes after when you succeed you forget that you have 10 teammates by your sides that helped you to achieve your achievements. And only talks about yourself. Ego / will destroy you , that’s a fact
@@everythingsfine1395 I don't think you understand the definition of the word.
Also, didn't you watch the video/ Read Blue Lock?
@@julio.dealmeidabranconeto5831
Im sure that you don’t understand the word , no matter how you and many uneducated creators trying to flawless the word ego , it’ll stay the same , ego ~> selfishness ~> toxicity
Im a football coach in Trinidad and Tobago, I currently have a women’s senior team and tbh since watching bluelock it has brought up new topics. I do believe egotism is needed to be a successful player, you need to believe you are the best. Idk if its because its natural for humans to compete but something about coming out on top is one of the most effective goals. Its crazy. But selfishness is needed in this team sport. Very very weird cuz its gonna take decades of brain research and prob others to start to official put the science to it.
Love the video. It confirmed alot of topics i brought up to myself.
This made me even more excited for Blue Lock. Fantastic video.
Thanks for the compliment! But yeah when I was working on this video I also got re-hyped up for Blue Lock! I’m actually so excited
anime came out maqwell, what do ya think about it?
@@dwarlock
It’s easy to mislead people , football is a collective game , ego and such B.S wouldn’t do a shit
@@everythingsfine1395 fr , philosophy doesnt apply on football
This video tells me you read manga but you don’t see football. Ego is just a plus, it’s not a necessity to get football success. Every single player that you mentioned in this video has had a center back, a midfielder or a second striker to stroke their capabilities. So many legends of the game are grounded in humility (to themselves, their upbringing or their religion).
Fr bru these guys read the manga and think they are eligible to comment on football
@@sobastiusvasilius596 bro honestly I can’t deal with these anime guys who love sports animes but don’t watch the actual sport,
Preach, Brother. I dropped the manga around that versus japan national football team arc, when everyone suddenly has this “abilities” like that japan nation’s Centre-back who has snake like jump and then the ikemen guy from Blue Lock copies him, it’s just become too much for me, it’s like turning into Captain Tsubasa lol (call me ignorant because idk, maybe I am?) If you’re just a casual football fan, sure go ahead keep reading the manga, it’s good. Better stick to Giant Killing.
"You need striker to succed"
Man City & Atletico Madrid:Are we a joke to you ?
atletico madrid is definitely a joke
@@doggerlander yet the same amount of champions league
Spain won a wc without one
@@doggerlander yes of course two time champions league finalists are a joke
What are you talking about?
Atletico always have strikers in their team. Suarez, Morata, Costa, Villa, Forlan, Falcao, Torres etc
As for Mcity, they had Aguero since forever, only losing him this season.
Blue Lock is currently the most INTENSE manga i've ever read. I've never been in the edge of my seat so often in any other manga.
Totally agree, all the matches are insane and it just keeps getting better with time, honestly my favorite manga because of how entertaining it is, the experience is just that great
Pov:you never read redo of healer
@@kingu4665 being intense for shock value is different from being intense in the edge-of-your-seat way
if you can see through the free edginess of redo of healer you wont raise an eyebrow while reading it, its just kinda stupid
@@kingu4665 That's the wrong kind of intense though XD
i mean if i’m seeing you dribble like adama with no end product. you’re ego is just holding you back
Lol
The 2nd goal Saudi Arabia vs Argentina just so blue lock material
If only you knew what was about to happen
@@hakimdiwan5101 hahaha damn right go Asia go
Belgians reading Blue Lock:
"Lmao cope"
Imagine blue lock was written for the sole purpose of the author to cope about japan's loss
This age sooooo poorly gahahahahahaha
@@kev1310 Croatia, who fuckin relies solely on its three man midfield : haha, cope again boys.
*cries in Brazil and Japan*
I've read Blue Lock but I dropped it. Honestly it's a good manga if you're in for the hype but as a footballing concept, it'll never work.
There's nothing substantial or in depth about football in it.
Ya bro me too, but ao ashi is 📛 🔥 🚒 check the latest episode you'll love it
messi isnt even close to being egotistical... He focuses on team play, he even said he prefered assists over goals in an interview.
Cause he ain't a striker... He's a midfield that can score
@@zaphster11 Na, Messi is a striker. That he plays freely and very often comes down to manage the game is something else, but Messi is a striker.
And "Midfielder who has a goal" falls short, Messi is the greatest scorer in the history of football in the modern era.
@@zaphster11 He was the striker in barca after Neymar and Suarez left for a period of time and still produced results, even then I wouldnt call a winger when he was in his prime a midfielder.
@@MatiGamefut wtf bro ronaldo holds all records of goals in world cup and ucl lol and he holds assists too in ucl records , ronaldo is number 1 in goals 815 right now and counting and he started as a midfielder too and got his first pass from unknown player in potuguese league while messi started as striker and got his first goal pass from the legend ronaldhino , get your facts right then tell them dont lie
@@yash7l48 ronaldo doesn't hold any goal record in the wc lmao , negative ball knowledge, Klose has the most goals in the World Cup and Maradona has most assists 🤫
Lionel messi with all the individual titles and team titles won has proven that u do not need to be 6’2 and super fit to be the goat… A PLAYMAKER IS CURRENTLY THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD NOT A STRIKER 😂😂😂 strikers be salty
This. Not because I'm Argentinian. But literally, in This World Cup, Argentina's team proved Blue lock's philosophy wrong. You had the entire team goofing with each other through the world cup, enjoying their time, happy to be with each other.
They were all pulling in the same direction, in other words. The Ao Ashi philosophy. :)
@@theargentino4245
Argentina progressed the collectivity to a new other level, they outperformed both netherland and france
I feel like this video should be watched by people who hate blue lock specifically because in the first few chapters they make it clear that a egotistical striker guides a team, and so people who love football irl drop it because they think that is a wrong philosophy for football which is a team sport. I mean there is clear evidence that strikers like these exist and that this philosophy is not bs. Also blue lock is quite self aware about its own philosophy of an egotistical player being unordinary as they mention how such player havent won a world cup, how itoshi sae, one of the best players we hv seen so far, not being a striker etc. Great analysis btw :)
Edit : I shd have made it clear in my original comment but blue lock elaborates plenty on it's ego philosophy, people hv to stop taking it at its face value. There is much more to the story then "egotistical striker is all a team needs", hell even one of the strikers from the og cast becomes a main stay goalie. Theres also a whole arc based on "chemical reactions" which is based on teamwork. BL's ideology is boiled down to having ego be that any position
itoshi sae was a former striker though lmao, something broke him and he turned to becoming the best midfielder to enable someone else to become the best striker
dropping a manga just bc someone said something you didn't like is literally childish especially for such a good manga like Blue Lock
@@syzler8664 but I feel like even that is him at least accepting the fact that he can play another role which was the point i was trying to make in my comment
@@バブル-w4b you just have shit taste it's just not good it's wrong about football and the characters are charicatures ao ashi is better in every single way
@@beasty4936 which proves that the best striker is what a team needs only lmao
*HOLY SHIT, JAPAN JUST WON SPAIN AND FINISHED GROUP E IN FIRST PLACE!*
THEY FUCKING DID ITT OHHHMYYGOOOOOOOOD
Coming here after japan beat germany 2-1 at world cup
You might have put some work in this, and I laud you for that, but mate you are misrepresenting a lot of things, you do not consider all the other factors that come into play for the justification of your point, like how Mourinho achieved fame for defensive football, has nothing to do with egotistical strikers, how Messi was carrying Barcelona and does not even play a striker position, so their underperformance was inevitable, how Ronaldo left Juventus at the end of the windows not given them anytime to find a suitable replacement, and a number of other points you made.
What is happening here is you seem to be misrepresenting what an Egotistical Striker is or at least the manga seems to be. Wanting to score goals is not egotistical, wanting to score the highest number of goals is not egotistical, wanting to be acknowledged for the goals you score is not egotistical, wanting to score goals at the detriment of your team is egotistical. Egotistical just means excessively self centered, has nothing to do with a winning mentality or guiding the team or any of such things. Sure an Egotistical striker wants their team to win, but they wants their team to win ONLY because of them, and get frustrated even if their team wins and they don't score, because it is about them.
Your point even veers into how City and Liverpool are changing the mold by not using Egotistical strikers, WHAT?!!! Are Egotistical strikers now every strikers?!!! because that was the point you were making by the end.
Being egotistical in of itself does not make you a great player or make your team win, it always comes down to ability, compare Ronaldo & Balotelli, to prime examples of Egotistical strikers. Ronaldo can be egotistical because he delivers when you give him the ball, and so is a top-top level player, Balotelli flip flops, and so he has bounced around teams.
Japan leads 2 - 0 and gets beaten 3 -2 and think they need a better striker to win? Football has always been a team game, and strikers are they most dependent on that team, egotistical or otherwise, if the team can't perform, a striker can't perform. This is why even with an egotistical striker of Ronaldo's caliber, Portugal hasn't done better than Japan in recent years, which blows all of that philosophy out the window, and it's not like Portugal hasn't had good team either, but competition is just competition, and the better team on the day will win, and strikers thrive on service.
You would think after the Belgium debacle that they would focus on defence.
facts
Heavy facts
Im glad you gave us insight. I hope the creator can look at this comment.
Mourinho had Drogba, who only great at big games, Zlatan, Christiano Ronaldo, Eto (told everyone that his illegitmate children can starve to death, he wil not pay any child support). When he got Kane or Rashford, more collective-minded strikers, he kept losing.
@@Account.for.Comment Hahaha, for real? and who did he have at Porto? Pretty sure Mourinho's biggest attacker at inter was Diego Milito, not sayng Eto'o didn't contribute. So when has being good at big games = Egotistical striker? Even Eto'o statement, however inflammatory it is, however true or false it is, how does it make him an Egotistical striker? As far as I remember, Eto'o was one who frequently passed the ball, and made runs to pull defenders for Ronaldinho to get into space, didn't hog set-pieces to score. He has won something with Roma, I wonder what you'll up about Tammy next
None of your statements check out, so what's your point?
Lionel Messi, The best player of the last 15 years, zero selfishness, super humble.
The best striker and player in the world and possibly that nobody will surpass him . Ever
@@everythingsfine1395 number 2 for sure.
@@ishiokitetsu4107
Stats say otherwise, number one by a mile
just because a player is shy or introverted it doesnt mean he is "super humble" lmao
@@LordHaroldinho yeah pepsi didn't vote Lewandowski as even top 3 when he was the top 1 or even if you're disillusioned pessi fan, you could agree that lewa was top 3, but Lewandowski voted pessi as top 3. Pessi has also kicked madrid fans with ball and done numerous worse things, but roanldo is the arrogant while pessi is just a creepy sly old fox who knows what he wants.
the spanish tiki taka that got them 2 euro cups and 1 world cup if im not mistaken was based on teamwork because their players were used to play together so they took advantage of that with, quick passes like clockwork.
As a 15 year old who's playing football, Blue Lock's philosophy is so true that it had me reflecting. Confidence is one of the most important keys in football and you def won't be able to use your full football potential without it unless you're some kind of blessed prodigy. I especially liked the "scoring boosts your team's efficiency" because that really is true. The more you score, the better your team's football becomes. That was also one of the main reasons why Japan lost against Belgium. The first mistake was the first goal belgium managed to score, after that, it got all of their team's spirit up and got them to their absolute best. It's like that little voice inside of you that tells you: "We're winning this, no matter what" which usually gets players to their absolute peak.
Which position do you play?
@@lad6655 a ball boy
Go watch tifo videos or sumn. A fuking manga won't make u a better player
Hes probably a bench warmer
Homie it doesn’t take much to join your average high school football team
Use a player's Ego to build your team for Depth. Put pressure on each and every role in the First team by keeping replacements on their mind and even play the subs and bench in easier league or cup matches. Soon your whole team will start improving and growing up mentally.
That’s called healthy competition ego ain’t healthy
Basically Bayern Munich in 2020.
Barcelona in their prime and right now under xavi, using squad depth as replacement makes the competition more fierce, making players play better
philosophy doesnt apply on football
Analogically, they need someone with huge drive of winning like Kagami in Seirin basketball team (Kuroko No Basket reference). Egoist but is still willing to look after the team in critical times-perfect.
kubo is their best winger tbh
2020/21 Chelsea and 2014 Germany disprove the whole Manga while both teams didn't have great egotistical strikers both teams had a all around perfectly balanced team with Germany having at least 3 or 4 top 50 players all time
neither did the godly 2008-12 Spanish... and they basically destroyed every other team with the most cheesy anime thing Teamwork and Friendship XD
Want to see a big club with a lot of egoitstic players? MU this season is a good example. I won't forget how Rashford and Greenwood become clowns with their attitude in the pitch...
Good thing they are changing and improving under Ten Hag, but only after 4-0 Brenford and City 6-3 💀☠️
Lord Maguire
Who is here after Japan beat Germany?
I wishes you talked about how Messi on Barcelona the team was balanced around him and he got to shine while proving he was the best
In this manga the goats(ronaldo/messi) is beaten by one character
I think yes, I play tennis so I agree it's necessary there at least. My coach who's coached some of the highest collegiate level players all around the world before, and even the best players I know are egotistical or say you should be, if not indirectly. My coach always says you have to imagine yourself as the favorite, as the best on the court when you play. Because underdogs can't close a match. Tennis is more a solo sport, so it's definitely visible there.
Well said. Confidence, balance, experience. Prep. Drive to win. All being drawn on in a flux state. People don't understand some people just practice, practice, and practice and let loose in game. Just to play. It's a different feeling. You can feel the smile slowly spread inside your mind. An addicting feeling. Masochists love a challenge that sucks and people count you out. It's why Michael Jordan played great sick and brought up a couple levels of play when opponents chirp at you or your team.
Blue lock feels like a commentary piece to be the anti thesis to aoashi, Which is still fantastic and better imo because of how mentally low you can feel when it's not about you. The need to reform your identity to survive. There is more intangible factors because some people know how to bring the best out of your players as a coach and teammates as a player. An almost complete opposite approach in blue lock when selfishness is brought up as key to be the best. Coaches do recruit for roles for a real football game. What I like about aoashi is how well thought out the coach is in the plot. Realizing instead of just telling the mc hes moving to a defender it made sense to improve him a player and show what's he's lacking. Some players really are just great at connecting other players into the mid field and reading and adapting to teammates. I think there will always be a balance in need when talking about ego and selfless play. If it's to win it's to win. Each situation is different. I can only imagine how demoralizing it is to have a near 40 year old Ronaldo score 5 goals the other day 😂
its kind of ironic that the last goal in the match was scored because lukaku discarded his ego, letting go of a ball that he could've easily tried to hit 👀
The blue lock was real yo
Im here , japan qualified lets see how far they can go
Am surprised that most people in the comments don't really watch football, teams like Greece, turkey and a lot of others have shown that the strikers aren't really needed to win matches even at club levels self confidence is not egotism.
Greece and turkey are trash at world level, strikers are needed for sure
True lol, they talk a lot of shit for someone who doesn't know football
Yeah but that happens once in a blue moon
Even then those teams vs the overwhelming history of football has had national teams with amazing players that have won the world cup or international glory, Messi and Maradona's Argentina, Pele, Ronaldo Fenomeno, Rivaldo in Brazil, Maldini and Totti's Italy, Zidane and Mbappe in france, Xavi and Iniesta in Spain, there are overwhelming stars that have won the world cup or international glory in the history of football.
I remember someone said this... Attack win you match, but defense win you titles.
The way I see It the philosophy of an egotistical striker in the manga isn't really the most important thing in a football team. Roberto Firmino in Liverpool is a prime example of a great striker that doesn't shine though their goals , his positioning and passing makes way for Mo salah and Sadio Mane to shine instead , which in my opinion is one of Liverpool's greatest weapons. If we are seeing ego as having confidence and believing they are the best striker in the world, then I can see that being helpful and something the Japanese team definitely needs.
Literally isagi
He has ego, but to make plays...
@@aidanwang1263 yea lmao, that's literally what the main character do
But firminho is dogass
He's decent at best, Benzema is a better example
Getting a world class striker is one step towards winning, but there’s 10 more steps after that. Ronaldo is a world class striker, but the difference between 3 straight champions league wins with Madrid and none with Juventus is the rest of the team. You could say Benzema won the champions league for Madrid this year, but he didn’t score in the final, nor did he set up the goal. Courtois was outstanding, Valverde was a constant threat, and Vinicius won them the game.
Okay guys look, its different to be 'Egotistical' and having 'the will to win', seems like some ppl don't really understand that
Fun fact: among the best strikers in the world that you mentioned, the number of world cups won among them is 0
Messi comes very close in 2014, but if you look at messi’s stats, 711 goals and 300 assist, its hard to say he’s a pure striker according to Jinpachi’s ideal.
Football fans, players and coaches all view Ronaldo and Messi as the best players of their time by a HUGE margin. They basically monopolized the ballon dor at their peak.
And yet, they still didn’t manage to win a single world cup. The era of football has changed, having a single Pele/Ronaldo/Messi/Gerd Muller won’t bring you the world cup.
It's never really been the case that you can win a world cup with one great player. Pele was playing in one of the greatest international teams of all time (he was injured for most of one tournament and Brazil still easily won) and Brazil would almost certainly have won their world cups without him. And Gerd Müller wasn't even the best player in the winning Germany team (hi Beckenbauer). Argentina hasn't ever really been a one person team; in 2014 they still had great players like Aguero and Higuain (although the one exception might be Argentina with Maradona)
Who’s here after Japan beat Germany and Spain☠️☠️
(Spoilers)
I agree, but I think we're limiting ego to strictly strikers.
Even in the manga, during the Japan under 20's vs blue lock match, the defenders and midfielders showed to have their own ego as well, proving that ego manifests in different ways depending on a players position and playstyle.
I feel we can apply this to teams like Liverpool which have Salah, who's a striker but also the main playmaker in the team, not just a finisher; suggesting his ego playstyle is more team oriented and thus brings the best out of his fellow teammates.
An even better example is De Bruyne from Man City, an amazing midfielder and playmaker that shapes how the team plays, his ego allows the strikers to score easier goals, thus driving the teams playstyle.
Therefore, ego is needed, but it doesn't have to simply be the strikers, any egotistical player will mold how a team wins matches.
ego is having an overly high level of self importance, the way you’re using it is as if there’s multiple forms of ego when there isn’t. You can be confident without being egotistical. Salah is a forward that is hungry for goals and can also create goals for other players, that doesn’t mean he has a huge ego.
I do not know where the manga goes eventually, but my casual understanding of modern football is that it resembles the modern management in general to an extremely high degree. The similar goes with other extremely popular sports like cycling. I feel that the fans enjoy the tension/synergy between the ego and the team work. Having referred to the analogy between management and modern sports, I would say there is huge pecuniary incentive for contributing to the team. Best teams pay you huge money for what can be neglected in weaker teams. It is exactly similar to managers that have to reward monetarily to "self-sacrificing" employees that contribute a lot for the productivity of others in a company. Thus, in excellent companies, hopefully, egotism and team work coincide almost perfectly, without each player having to take conscious balance between the two -- it is not the players' job to make a tradeoff but the manager's to reward the best balance. I expect that the manga will finally touch upon this issue later.
Im 2 episodes in blue lock and honestly the anime is quite good but if that reflects japans football they will never win anything. Like the very first episode the protaginist kicks out the one friend he had ?? That is not the ego that leads to success in football. Their is a difference in wanting to score so he gets egotistical which leads to shooting to score rather than pass the ball and being an asshole throwing your friend under the bus.
he was not his friend if you watched correctly, it was just like he know him cuz they play on opposite side...Also dont you wanna defeat someone who defeated you earlier?? At that point He was best in the room, and defeating him is best thing to do
I decided to drop this manga from the first chapter because of the sentence " i feel better losing 3-4 after scoring a hat-trick than win only by 1-0 with an assist" wtf. in real life no player would make such a statement. you are satisfied when you score 3 or 4 goals but your team loses, that thinking is so personal and selfish that is completely out of line with the spirit of football
JAPAN WON AGAINST GERMANY!!
I think the term egotistical term in the Blue Lock, didn't essentially to be a rude and arrogant players on and off the field. I think the term in the manga means to have what it takes to be the one who changes the game and lead your team to glory.
Recent chapters of Blue Lock, Bayern Munchen vs Barca, shows that the teams also need certain philosophy and system to win. But, the players inside the team need to have some guts to give 'explosive action' to the team at the critical moment in the match, such as assisting decisive goal, scoring a goal as a defender, or dribble past 2 defenders before scoring the decisive goal (like saying "I'm the One!" figuratively).
Events like that often occurs in the real football matches, such as Trent's 'corner taken quickly' vs Barcelona, Lucas Moura hattrick vs Ajax, Aguero goal vs QPR, Ramos header in UCL final vs Atletico, and many more.
To make those moments, someone in the team need to be egotistical. If everyone in the team don't have what it takes 'to be the one', then your team can't win.
Egotistical (in this series) = *self-confidence that's born out of one's ability couple with logical thinking at all time.*
This is a fantastic video analysis ego philosophy is true to an extent it’s basically wants everyone to shine as Individual but play as a Team
This video aged well.
Basically, what they mean in Blue Lock is an Ace player... Player who could make a difference, the best player on the team, and other player is on the role of supporting him... Not a bad idea as a comic, but this ace player philosophy was outdated in my mind... The best team right now was a team which has collectivity and great depth... Such team wouldn't have any ace player which is irreplacable.. look at Germany, Man City, or Liverpool now... The problem with team using ace player was, the system wouldn't worked without that specific player..
True, even real madrid who won champions league recently have great player in every position and show up when it matter like Courtois in final, rodrygo in 2nd leg semifinal, carvajal, vinicius against chelsea, benzema on several occasion and many more
Even those team has a one or two players that stand out from the rest
@@Overtrigger you are right but those teams have strength in numbers what it means is that a bench player can slot into their lineup and deliver like a star player would long are the days where 1 player dominates a team
@@George-jc3mt Valid point, but being an ace would mean that you get more playtime so I think that every player wants to be the ace of the team. And blue lock is a manga about that dream, every character in the series wanted to be an ace and worked hard for it.
@@Overtrigger I’m not against blue locks philosophy I’m just against the devouring your team mates part that put me off when last I read it that part was what made me iffy
I was reluctant at first to the ego philosophy. But as the chapter progress, the main point is not being selfish, but having strong self confidence to dictate the game to your liking in pursuing victory.
Here after Japan beat Germany 🎉🎉🎉
Ronaldo is like the perfect example his team lost 2-0 in the first leg of the of the round of 16 in the champions league against athletico and later got a lot of press and said this into some reporters mic “I have won 5 champions these guys 0” he later goes on to score a hat trick and win the game
That was one of his most iconic badass moments
The most iconic moment of Champions League.
And still messi it’s the best goal scorer and player , never said a shit about him being the one
@@everythingsfine1395 cause he never really took criticisms like Ronaldo. When pessi missed the penalty with argentina after being time and time having whole team configured for him, he continued loosing and with all the pressure, he cried like a bi*ch and took fake resignation from the national teams. Even the greatest psg vs barca comeback was done by Neymar, Messi was just there. He's a plastic goat. Really, unless you don't watch football at all, you wouldn't mistake Ronaldo for a number 2 farmer's league 6 goals player. Nowadays, people forget that only Ronaldo is the man who has time and time again turned the game all by himself. He is the greatest clutch player of all time. And if you still believe that mentality doesn't effect the game then you're just biased.
@@ishiokitetsu4107
Configured for messi in Argentina ? You sure do watch football ?
International team doesn’t have much option to configure a team around certain player ,
Messi won international final game by playing with the team while ronaldo was out in the bench crying , Portugal won euro without ronaldo in the team while messi played all the finals ,
Messi have way better goal scoring ratio and most goals non penalties most awards most assists ever better free kicker than ronaldo , ronaldo it’s only the best second striker , messi it’s the best footballer let that sink in your mind , and 6 more goals club and one more record broke by messi , messi faced ronaldo in a final and made him cry , and faced once more in ucl and kicked him out while the motm for both games was messi
Team Mentality effect the game not mentality of the individual if you score and your defender let rivals score your mentality cant do shit.
Egomaniac cr7 will be always levels behind messi ,
Finished ronaldo will just stare at messi breaking all his last few records from far
Egoism doesn't compare to pure genius talent. You can have all the ego, but if you're not actually good enough, you're going to end up like Lord Bendtner
Or lord braithwaite 😂
Messi is the greatest scorer in the history of football in the modern era And one of the players with the most trophies in history and he is not self-centered at all.
Ego =/= Self Centered. At least, not entirely, and not definitively. It's also Arrogance.
You can think of Ego in blue lock like thinking of yourself as the best at your job. In this way, almost any player in a high level team has an Ego to some degree. And after reading the manga, they do still make the point that teamwork is still essential. But that doesn't mean you can't have an Ego AND have good teamwork.
@@Oliveoilxo
Madrid was far greater team than ronaldo ego , he was just one of the players for madrid , messi have no ego no selfishness. It’s always team work , barca failed when they just relied on messi , it’s always team work and training and talent , ego can achieve 0 , i know many people with egos bigger than ocean , they have done nothing
Since the departure of Aguero In Man City, they didn’t have an ‘egotistical’ striker, yet are argued to be one of, if not the most attacking team in the world
They are the most clear and simple
To argue that Messi is egotistical because he is called the 'Little Dictator' is a bit of a stretch to me. Messi is known for being one of the most unselfish and team-focused player in football. He is the least egotistical player you could mention. That moniker only came as a result of him trying to save the club from poor management which almost led Barca to near bankruptcy.
This guy never watched football.
As someone who plays sports, *yes* , you do need “ego” to win.
Although “ego” isn’t the best word, sometimes you have to step forward and be selfish. “You need to play to win, not to lose”, as I’ve seen someone comment.
I don’t think this just applies to strikers, though. In netball the GS (goal shooter) must have “ego” in order to shoot with so much pressure, but so do the other members. If the Defense don’t have “ego”, they will start relying on each other. Sports depends heavily on your mindset, if you keep thinking “oh, it’s fine, the other defence player will get the ball” your team will suck. Because then everyone will rely on that player, and there will be no self improvement.
While I do agree many team sports need strong players and cooperation to be played, every player individually needs their own “ego” for the team to succeed. If every player lacks “ego”, your team will be held back. Confidence in a team is one of the key factors along with training that REALLY determines whether or not the team will do well. You need to believe you CAN do well, if not even if you have the skills you won’t do well.
Great analysis btw! Looking forward to seeing blue lock animated :)
I think it boils down to confidence. The ability to shut out any kind of negative thoughts and shoulder the responsibility that kind of ego is needed in a striker?
missed an open goal? "i will get the next one" this is the sort of mentality a striker needs and should have instead of hiding from a play
This wasn’t made for irl football fans it was made for irl football fans that wanted to be footballers. Reminds me of childhood football, none of the “lag” I feel the big game has. But fast paced, just scoring fun
Try to mention Diego MARADONA. He is the one perfect example of egotistical striker aside from his extraverted attitude.👑⚽💯✨
No way you just said that
@@juanpablo-uj6ko I could say he was an egotistical striker because of his decisive finishing and if you think of it some of the minutes he played he single-handedly plays his game. The "striker" I meant is obviously if you think at first view, was the "center forward" but I said he's a striker too because of his "enganche" role (if you know the enganche or if you don't just search it) and also he's a striker even he's not a center forward because of his immense ability in scoring goals.
@@footballph2707 I actually watched a documentary about him, never thought he is actually egotistic like the former Pele, and later to the next Gen players like Zidane, Henry, Messi and Ronaldo.
@@sorianojoshuaczar9854Yes. They have ego only when they play inside the pitch but MARADONA's ego reflect through his extraverted attitude, everywhere. CR7 is close to MARADONA's ego when it comes to expressing who's the best player. When it comes to wildness, MARADONA is obviously at that point of his ego.
@@sorianojoshuaczar9854 That's because you're very much stuck on the definition of egotism rather than what the Manga means by it. The reason he's an Egoist inby the metrics of the Manga, is because Maradona is a larger than life guy with huge balls and a huge personality. He's a leader of his men, a charismatic and natural leader with grit and determination. The very example of wilfulness, he's willing to break the rules if it allows his team to win.
The main point to take away from Blue lock (In lore) is that Japan NEEDS a egotistical player who only focuses on scoring. They have other positions that are more team oriented, it's just that they need someone whos main focus is to put the ball in the back of the net. Obviously irl a greedy player who only cares for himself will honestly never work.
and a goalkeeper i have not seen a decent japanese goalie yet
@@George-jc3mt yea 😂
The entire manga isn't necessarily all about soccer. it's mostly about japanese people lacking ego.
It's funny that you never talk about the team that won the last WC.
France is the perfect example of how a team can actually win a trophy. First, confidence. Second, teamwork. Third, luck.
Confidence is the highlight of Blue Lock, but you'll see that most player with just that don't do much. In fact, confidence is really ever interesting to have only at the same level as your skill. Then it's just a goal, and that's totally different.
An example of that is Kylian Mbappé. He knows perfectly that he isn't the best player in the world when he enters the field with Messi or Ronaldo. But he always tells himself he is. Because it's what broughts all of his capabilities, giving him the chance to actually become the best.
He uses confidence to reach his goal, but doesn't overrate himself, making him a player that does poor decision at times.
That's what brings us to the teamwork aspect. Mbappé, last year, did the most assist of the league. (and all big strikers)
Why? Because even if Mbappé as an ego, he isn't EGOISTICAL, which means "carring only about yourself".
That's why Messi is also not an egoistical player. Because he plays first for the team. But he wants the best for them, so often times he places himself first because he IS the best.
That's is the aspect that Blue Lock fully lacks, and what makes it so repetitive.
Then, luck. Blue Lock touched a bit on that, but basically it's also something you can trigger more likely when you are a good player/team. So it's luck, but also provocking it.
Blue Lock talks about that, only on the player aspect, but it's already pretty good. To bad they don't talk about it anymore.
So while I agree that Japanese soccer (and everything else for that matter) should be more confident, especially when there is results, it's through the team that A TEAM wins. And it will always be like that. You can have the best striker in the world, and still finish 7th in the PL, in the round of sixteen in the Euro or at the Champions League final doors.
There are also plenty of cases where you see the individual superstar dying out and the well-oiled footballing machine team comes out.
Individual superstars these days just aren't as effective. Case in point, Bayern.
Bayern has a team full of stars but no outright superstar. Their strength lies in their monstrous chemistry as a squad when they demolished Barca and won the CL.
One thing I disliked about Blue Lock was how they treat 'egoism' as a game winner. You don't have a team there. It's just 11 headless chickens fighting each other when they should be playing together.
@@MaplerInMaple Exactly.
@@MaplerInMaple Sure, but that's why the idea of a team that supports the striker works. I think it can work as long as the team supporting the striker is good enough. But the more important quality of an egotistical striker is that it sells. Also isn't Bayern's striker Lewandowski a big egotistical and arrogant player?
@@aaronmontgomery2055 That brings me to my second point though. At one point its mentioned that every position in the team is played by a striker.
How does that work? You'd more likely see this team implode on itself because no one knows how to play any other position other than forward.
And if the point is to groom everyone into becoming an egotistical player, it's more likely you'll have a team of 11 selfish Balotellis rather than the well organised Man City team you were hoping for.
@@aaronmontgomery2055 where did you get tis info that lewandowski is arrogant ????? also bayern have great finishers to like gnabry muller sane heck davies who is a left back can cook players if given to much space
An egoestical player at any position
Is a complete disaster for a football team
Even if you have a team full of egoestical players they will probably get blown apart
Just acting that you can dribble past 3 players even if you are a dribbler is immensely hard as the situations keep changing and the probability keeps deferring
You don't know what will the defender do
Same for many positions in football
Picking the right moment is the key to becoming a valuable footballer
Even if you are a shitty player
And of course all this comes from experience and failure first
I think the manga author misunderstood egoestical behaviour in quality players
That's not a discovery that's a conclusion
An observation
All players show egoestic behaviour cause they know what to do in a situation regardless of the result
They went through that situation multiple times
So they have confidence in themselves
More than anyone on their teams
Which makes them eventually best
And a quality player
Finally somebody that understands football
@@mouhamedali6587 yeah being egotistical in one moment or for like a few seconds is fine but being egotistical throughout the game even if you have the skills to back just kills ur team
@@sinofsloth8201 your'e right tactics are the most important thing
And the fans will be like "bUt tHIs iS FrOM mANgA, nOT fROm ReAL LiFe"
i get what you're saying but id suggest you to read the manga first. You're misunderstanding being a ball hog to being egoistic. Like no shit that being a ball hog and trying to dribble the entire team and losing the ball would make you a burden to your team. It was established in the first couple of chapters of the manga that you shouldn't be unrealistic and do only according to your skill level.
Blue lock is a training facility which is centred AROUND egoism. It's not saying that you should play football egotistically , far from it actually, that's why it's differentiating itself from other players of the field and bringing it only strikers, as ego believes that there's always this one extraordinary player every match that guides his team to victory, like literally a few days ago, did you see how RMA played against Liverpool the entire match, the driving force of RMA that day was undeniably Courtois, if you watched his interview after you'll notice that his drive was based on egoism (in a good way). Ego only wants to create the "perfect" japanese striker out of all these strikers in a dog-eat-dog environment so he can be the central driving force to the under 20 national team eventually .
tl;dr: the "egoist" type of play is only exclusive inside the blue lock facility as it is a decisive factor for the other strikers to evolve in their own ways in that dog-eat-dog environment so that they can filter out the best striker out of them eventually. It's not saying that football should be played egotistically.
Great video. I a 100% agree with the premise that a team can only get you so far but to Transcend to the next level, there has to be leader with an insane ego to push the barrier down so the team will win. In his pursuit of excellence, the others benefit. As to teams like Man City and Liverpool not having egotistical strikers, their coaches are the egos driving the teams.
Another thing is multiple egos cannot coexist.... Either one how's down for the other or leaves the team to the greater ego.
this aged well, too damned well.
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The problem with Ego's mindset is that he only has one definition of ''success''. Okazaki is a VERY succesfull player in my opinion. Any player that can earn a living only playing football is more succesfull than 99% of players that get stuck in unprofesional leagues. Any player that gets to go to a World Cup is more succesfull than the vast majority of profesional footballers.
If we are talking just about elite goalscorers, then, yes, they need to have a certain amount of ego and overconfidence to stand-out. But seriously, even if Japan had an elite striker, they wouldn't have won the 2018 World Cup. They simply didn't have the talent to win it. The team-based mentality lead them to a very good performance against Belgium, that were one of the favourites, don't forget that.
Still, the anime is very entertaining.
To everyone saying "Blue Lock is unrealistic, no one wins by himself", Jinpachi Ego is clearly the bad guy in the story, it's normal that his idea is wrong. From the very first match in the manga you can clearly see that without a good team you can't event manage to get a scoring chance. The main character will learn it with time
Well I don't even understand calling anime unrealistic .even if u put a real biography of someone it's still will be unrealistic so why say it when u realise something is different from reality?.it's just the realization that it is unrealistic . it's unrealistic in all instances and also realistic in all instances.the word used by humans are probabilistic but the context assumption of other humans we get sometimes we don't.
That's what I thought at first too, until the match against Barou, and how he guided his team when they used him to score more goals and win the match. The truth is teams are always going to revolve around the "star" who they rely on. It's inevitable, and not just a thing in soccer. Albeit, in soccer we have a term for them, "strikers".
This is true mate... To make a strong character like other anime, sure they can come up with anything but in today's reality and the real world context, man no one runs the team alone, you can take Ronaldo's example at Man U, or Real Madrid (where he was surrounded by modric, cruse, benzema, Ramos and others and Real Madrid won champions league again without Ronaldo with their journey being one of the most iconic journey's ever) or messi when he was at Barca. Messi tried with all his might but then Barca crashed way hard that will still be remembered by everyone in the sport, the example being 8-2 with Bayern. Good for character development but these anime will never talk about the tactical problems the real match had, its always the personality of a player and that they should be mentally strong and believe they are the best. But in the face of overwhelming talented teams like the European countries or the South Americans, obviously its going to be hard. The way to win is how Leicester did it in the premier league, not just a single player, but the whole damn team. Liverpool, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Bayern, they run through other teams because of the chemistry of the team and their tactics and not because all the teammates are egotistical.
A good anime would be kuroko's Basket where everyone is so damn talented that it just destabilises the team. Pig is a good example where the egos are too big to control. They win but were knocked out in the champions league and the French cup.
A real example of a good philosophy is obviously haikyuu. That's the philosophy that gets you to winning titles. The team chemistry, moreover the tactics, individual abilities going in harmony with the team, that's how you win something.
@@作者未詳の The manga explores this eventually funny enough
If Jinpachi was wrong the entire manga would be invalidated lol
Asano goal vs Germany confirmed this philosophy, Japan wouldn't won if Asano choose to wait for the teammates to help in that situation and not choose to take on Neuer himself.
The teamwork philosophy are also true, but everybody who want to be "ascended" should have egoistical philosophy too, Real Madrid won't won UCL 2021/22 if Benzema and Vini not choose to be the egoist and become "man in the moment" numerous times.
Its not about having a big ego, more about the hard work one puts in, and that individual uses his drive to display that hard work, that desire to win, want more, is what drives the players to being one of the best, many clubs nurture this type of drive, which is why we see a lot of stars in big clubs these days, these guys want to win, for themselves and for the team.
Dunno guys, but while watching this I keep remembering that one of the best footballers in history is... Messi, one that is very contrary to the topic that we bring here. And hey, Real and Barca, City and Liverpool, heck even PSG and Bayern don't play egoistic football. I don't think it's about egoism, it's more like confidence and optimism. Diamond no Ace actually is the better manga that captures this emotion very well (and it's one of the best sport manga in my opinion. You should try reading it).
Attackers are the players who literally make the diff. Providing the most decisive moments and the most eye-catching pieces of invention, trickery, and skill
Being egotistical in certain moments of a match is important, and having the drive of thinking I'm the best is also important, but a clear line is drawn when you'd rather score goals than have your team win.
people who truly have high self esteem/ego(like not just to look cool &cocky) are more confident,thus are less anxious and don't doubt themselves. Their ego/confidence make them train hard so that they're at the top,and performing good further fuel their confidence.♾
THE BLUE LOCK IS REALLLLLLLLLLLLL
Japan's problem was not the striker....but the defense and the lack of experience of being in the driver seat in such a high stake match...every single goal came from either defensive pressure, which led to Belgium's 2 as well as not knowing how to just hold on to the lead/draw, which led to the counter attack for the Belgian winner...its about scoring, yes...but its also about not getting scored on..."Hit and dont get hit"
Edit: i do love that this manga/anime is sparking something between this community as well as the football/soccer community...much love and hope yall doing well or at least better after seeing this comment
I do agree that having a bit of an ego is needed to succeed at such a high level, but being confident in each play you make or always thinking you're the best to give yourself a confidence boost is different from being egotistical.
A truly egotistical player is not gonna be able to make the best decisions during a game cause by definition they're gonna be too into themselves. As the manga goes on it is clear that the real philosophy of the story is to be able to shine as an individual while being able to help the team, but again that is different from being egotistical.
As a striker it is obviously needed to have the will to takeover games or score when the team needs the most, cause some games are truly decided by the individual plays of star caliber players.
For example how Mbappe dribbled his way into scoring the goal that gave PSG the win against Real in the first leg. But PSG is also the prime example of a team full of incredible individual players that are not really able to work together.
facts i dont get why blue lock is using the word ego to me cause it dont make no sense of course you need to be individually spectacular and be useful to the team at the same time i just hate how blue lock removes names for example team work they changed it to chemistry or some shit like that
PSG had a bunch of mercenaries that already legendary elsewhere and only there for the paycheck. Looked at that team and we only see retired Barca legends, Milan legends, Real Madrid legends. Mbappe grew up and want to be a Real Madrid legend, but stay in PSG for the money.
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@@itami3831 I meant that I don' t think the players tried as hard or care as much despite being able to work collectively. Messi was fine playing second-fiddle to Mbappe but in Barca, he demanded and forced Pep to put him the centre. Meanwhile, Ronaldo a way more selfish player, was in pain and anger whenever his Manchester United teammates don' t played to the level expected of the badge. I think the players of PSG can played together, they just cared less.
@@Account.for.Comment That is surely part of it but me personally I think they just really don't have chemistry together, like whenever I watch them play they don't really feel like a team
Ego for self improvement : YES
Ego because too greedy : NOPE
Football is a team play not single play
Team of individuals
@@wetballs1 yes but not you still need a style of play and a good defensive team moves like a unit football is about team work and the individuals ability
So you’re telling me my current favorite anime was made because my country beat Japan’s ass with a comeback?
TLDR: yes, if you truly want to be a scorer (in any sport) that's a cut above, you will develop your own ego.
awesome well done video btw man. love the smooth edits and info you managed to gather here.
as a athlete, ego is more of a easy answer to the problem. Egos create leaders. Teams such as Liverpool, real Madrid, and even the golden state warriors are really rare because you got guys who are willingly pushing themselves to the extreme as well as being able to cooperate well with one another. However, most teams are going to have players who lack that will to get better because of just who they are. Therefore, you got the egotistical assholes who are there to push the team because the team couldn't push themselves. This may cause alot of the focal point to be focused on these guys but what can you do if the team isn't as good as that guy. That's why you hear guys like Michael jordan talk about how he pushes his teammates way too far because he wants them to be at the level that he is at no matter how bad they are.
Those “assholes” are needed
B.S
@@everythingsfine1395 tell me your take then smartypants
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Team games doesn’t need ego it needs collectivity ,that’s alone destroys all B.S you stated , you are egotistical i can see that , « as an athlete « you must be very amateur
@@everythingsfine1395 did you read my post at all? I'm saying that collectivity is needed in sports but to achieve that collectivity everybody on that team must be on the same page as one another. There's always go8ng to be a weak link within the team and it takes selfishness to bring that out of somebody. Also, ego leads to improving one's individual skill which then can bring something to the table for the team
well, you know the age old adage: if you have confidence in yourself, others will have confidence in you.
From this video i can tell you dont watch or follow football. I strongly disagree with Blue Lock's prespective but i can bear it since its fiction, the problem is when people outside of the sport get the wrong idea about its fundamentals. Thats why i think Slam Dunk and Haikyuu do the sports aspect perfectly
Also the manga premise is stupid, Spain won a world cup without a striker.
Looks like you should watch more Blue Lock, because it's not just about strikers here.
@@nael5103 so you're telling me a manga about finding the best striker isn't about strikers? Hmmm. I'm on chapter 115, guess I have to catch up
@@eduoliveira9280 This may sound far-fetched, but the concept of finding a striker is not the main focus of this story. The meaning of this story appears implicitly, I mean a goalkeeper, defender, playmaker, etc. must have pride and ego towards his position. For years from a "normal person" point of view, strikers have always taken the stage, but the position of goalkeeper is rarely talked about. yes, that's my opinion. every story isn't perfect, but it has reasonable points to point out.
@@nael5103 i can see what youre saying but at the same time i hate how blue lock chnages things eg bastard munich instead of teamwork is chemistry etc
Villa and Torres?
And now I have to say: Japan wons in the game between Germany and Japan, with 2:1.
take a shot for every time "egotistical striker" is mentioned
This blue lock is real things that japan NT need. You can see the meaning in japan vs croatia today. Ego needed.
In said manga, there's this guy named Mikage Reo that has a different concept of egoistical. While almost everyone including the MC wants to be the best striker ever, he want to win World Cup. He doesn't care about being the best, he want a ladder to win WC, and that ladder is possible with one of his trusted companion, Nagi Seishiro, whom i think is top three best striker in that manga and a great candidate to win Blue Lock even more than our MC.
I think having a superstar striker gives the team confidence and something to look forward to.
The teams that have won world cups like 2002 brazil, 2010 spain ,2014 germany , they didn't need egotistical striker , but they had players in front, mid and back that have high confidence in their ability to perform .
what's funny is Germany beat a team that had so many superstar level players like Aguero, Higuain, Messi, Di Maria. Germany only had probably one star and it's Muller.
@@JinhoIzanagawa Germany One star???? LOL
@@JinhoIzanagawa bruh wtf...Schweinsteiger, kroos, Mesut Ozil, MANUEL F'ING NEUER.
@@JinhoIzanagawa uh what. Philip Lahm was the best defender in the world at the time, Neuer was the best keeper. Özil was at the peak of his powers and Kroos was already becoming one of the best midfielders in the world. And Klose is the all time record holder for most world cup goals and one of the greatest strikers ever. The German team was incredibly strong