CAN YOU FORGE QUARTERS TOGETHER???
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Dude, you actually made me excited about packaging materials lol. I'm super happy for you man
Thank you my friend 🙏🙏🙏
You guys should do a collab
@@gavconn650 they uh... they did? on Bobby's channel?
@@loydtheliar5659 wewd
Wewd
I hear you’ve already got snow, lots of us want to see you make a Damascus snow shovel.
I have actually been suggesting this for years now... they no listen. Ever since the mail box fiasco
I didn't want to see it, until I saw this...
Helll yea
It’d be good practice for making armor later!
That’d be sick
"British counterfeiting operation sets up shop in USA to forge American coins."
Surely its british "FORGING" operation?
Eh? Eh?
I'll see myself out
Not to mention destroying US currency is illeagal
spencer in the US
@@spencer5438 Currency refers to paper money Coins are not considered Currency.
@@dubsaloon Interesting... I was under the impression that it is illegal too... Only the reserve is allowed to take money out of circulation... Maybe because the value is so low... But theoretically and insane, heheh, you can take $1000 000 out of circulation if you have enough coins... LOL... but that will take some dedication...
Alec: "we're gonna be tig welding these quarters together for a ring stock"
US government: "U wot mate?"
It's not illegal to destroy coins as long as it is completely destroyed and you can't tell what it was
Possession of counterfeit United States obligations with fraudulent intent is a violation of Title 18, Section 472 of the United States Code and is punishable by a fine of up to $15,000, or 15 years imprisonment, or both.
It’s only illegal if you damage currency to regain the metal and then sell it. I don’t know the legality of selling art made from legal tender though.
it is legal to destroy tender for artistic or expressionistic purposes. just look at penny crushers.
SHORTBUSS1994 WITH FRAUDULENT INTENT. You can’t stamp quarter faces on nickels for example. You can legally destroy money all day if you want.
*Edit* 10/02: The video was pulled down for a day while I double-checked with my Lawyer, I was given advice that the below is correct, absent fraudulent intent it is completely legal to mutilate coins.
For anyone interested in further reading on the topic:
www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/331
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elongated_coin
www.parkpennies.com/pressed-penny/are-penny-press-machines-legal.htm
Mutilating a coin without fraudulent intent is legal. We are not passing our mutilation off as currency. Just like the penny presses all around the country at popular attractions where you pay 25c to get the machine to squish a penny for you!
This topic always brings out the high school lawyers in people.
Nice, that answers my question then.
Yea seen the same thing after I said only pennies are legal to deface LOL
THE MORE YOU KNOW
You tell the Alec !
Arent destroying money like actual crime? I heard you can get in allot of trouble for that.
Anything: *happens*
Alec: "PHENOMENAL"
Phenomenal=Shut up it's my turn to talk.
PHENOMENAL: “Alec”
Alex is the Bob Ross of blacksmithing? Or maybe the Steve Erwin?
Fantastic!
This is so EXCITING
Best collab I've seen. Ive been following Patrick for over a year and Alec over the past few months. Both of your channels are awesome!
I just love when you throw stuff bouncing around. Visible string makes it even better. Keep up guys!
What i love most is Will cant contain his laughter at his quarters behind the ear joke and alec barely holds it together as well
Everybody: Destroying quarters is illegal
Everybody else: Alec didn't make those hammers
Me: Great collab with Patrick Adair
It's Not just illegal Alex Bonfield it's a felony to destroy or deface federal property and money is federal property in the U.S.
@@anycaliber9086 Felony charges incoming, anybody want some cheap tools?
Actually it is only illegal when you are trying to make it look like a higher denomination than what it is, making jewelry out of money is not illegal. I make rings out of U.S. silver coins every day, and they are still legal currency.
@@anycaliber9086 It's only illegal if it's done with fraudulent intent, i.e. altering money to appear at a higher value issue than it is (this includes making a penny look like a dime or a nickel like a quarter, etc). What Alec and Co are doing is completely legal as defined by the US Govt and Treasury.
Yeah Patrick Adair actually has a pretty awesome channel. His carbon fiber rings are sick!
That's great! Brilliant being able to see the progress in the Steele business. I really appreciate being able to see these steps happen. Gotta say about the packaging supplies: the fun and beauty is in the details.
Knowing where it all started, it's amazing to see how far you've gotten. Truly amazing!
YES you’re doing a lot of collabs with great you tubers! PAD is my favorite ring maker! Hope to see you guys make more with other great youtubers!
You know, most tig welders are looking for the "stack of dimes" look in their welds, not a stack of quarters
deathsicon stackin’ quarters
Will, you have such a superb sense of comedic timing! Please, never stop being your funny and unpredictable self =)
“We might have to forge a ring” “Could make sense (cents)” he just made a great pun without even realizing it. 7:15
For everyone asking, they aren't "factory" made. They are still forged like he used to do, with the same tools and steel like he used to, just by another smith. Ethan Harty from Canada made them. He makes great hammers and sells his own. But I agree with a lot of people here, even a top quality hammer not made by Alec is not an Alec Steele hammer. I'm buying a hammer from a smith to support the work of that smith, not for show and tell.
Ethan also took classes from Alec 3yrs ago on forging tools.
So you also don't wear Levi's jeans, or...
Should have been disclosed. Potentially misleading.
@@tyrelirwin apples to oranges my friend. If I NEED jeans, I'll buy cheap mass produced, if I WANT a hand forged hammer, I WANT to support the smith, I WANT his craftsmanship, and I WANT the story behind it. People want his hammers, they don't need a square circle made by another smith cause it's easier.
For what it's worth, if you look at 7:28 Ethan put his name on the hammers too. I don't think they'll try to pass them off or anything.
Soak the quarters in acetone and hit each one with a wire wheel and then weld them up and forge
Other TH-camrs: “my new sweatshirt just dropped. Check it out!”
Alec: “I Got You HAMMERS!”
But dude does he have talent.
Skill*
I love it when Will laughs to himself when he makes a joke or does a bit, it’s the best
6:00 Packaging supplies are exciting because it means you're moving product! You're making cool things, and people want to give you money for them! It's one of the best feelings, hands down. 👍
Will: You want to hit it with the big metal end.
Patrick: Not the wood?
Will: No.
The sincerity with which Will said no had me absolutely dying lol
Best-crossover-ever. I'm a huge fan of Patrick's work.
I love how will couldn’t stop laughing at his quarter behind ear joke that the camera dude had to move him out of frame 😂
So for everyone talking crap about him "outsourcing" his hammers he is having another smith hand forge them with the same dedication and attention to detail. His name ethan hardy. Check out his page he has videos of him making them.
I think we're all well aware of who made these. But its like, why got to a middle man when you can go to the source. Plus, if a blacksmith is selling or giving away that sort of thing, one would expect it to be made BY him. its a cop out.
Yea why does it have Alec's trademark...he didn't make them.
The kid is filling an order for alec his design they have both makers marks alecs and ethan
@@heavyaf_deuce3791 yeah but you dont go to an artist to buy their product, only to have another artist make it for them.
gedion4000 more often than not, you actually do. More than 95% of all art sales are prints. Precise copies of a work made by a different source than the artist so more people have access to it. If he is pleased with the quality of the hammers and they meet his standards there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
"You've got to hit it with the big metal end" at 6:40
I laughed so hard
already subscribed to patrick! It's always great to see collabs between some of my favorites
Selling out with a smile. Truly the American way. Love your channel anyway you bring it.
You should get Adam Savage in the shop. Could be such a nice video!
Nikolai Andreassen this must happen soon. We need a adam savage alec steel collaboration now
The forged result would have to be called "Savage Steele". Imagine the pricetag on that.
@@RavenChopper That's awesome!
@@LuinTathren Thanks man, I get a good one in sometimes. :)
So you outsource the hammers now??
People need to be honest. Did you not see this coming. There is no way Alec could forge all the hammers for all the orders he would get. That would be all he was doing, so of course he farmed it out. But farmed it out to someone who studied from him and still made his mark on the hammer. So it's not like they were trying to hide it. This way you get to support two blacksmiths. Alec and Ethan.
Three you forgot will
love how happy will looks after his magic trick
So theyre Steele style hammers but not Steele made?
"we might have to forge a ring,
it makes sense(cents)."
good one
Jayce Cravens you bastard. Beat me to it lol
DOH! LOL
I've been hoping for this collab, glad to see it happen
That ring looks PHENOMENAL!
7:13 unintentional pun
"we might have to forge a ring"
"that makes cents"
Way to go Ethan! Beautiful hammers! I am a proud owner of a Ethan Harty 3.5 classic. He makes incredible tools!
great to Ethan back on the scene, very down to earth an a real talent. Nice to see Ethan openly tell the story of the project and in a away 'wack wack and less yack' lives on.
I have seen Patrick's videos and they are actually how I found you. It was pretty sweet to see both people doing a video together. For those of you who may not think just rings are as cool to watch as all the stuff Alec does....when the dude said "I make rings out of just about anything, and try to have fun doing it" the man is modest, he is very crafted and has alot of super nice rings. His episodes are indeed entertaining aswell.
The fact I watched Alec make batch after batch of Hammers, and waited to buy one for myself, but had to wait till he came to the USA, and now see the hammers outsourced... Color me disappointed. I was so happy when he came to the States, because I thought to myself. Well now I can get a hammer without ungodly shipping from the UK. I am not even a Smith. I do not even have a shop, or anything. I just love the hammers. Dang it!
You're an idiot.
Why go to the bank when you have the back of Alec's ears.
I subscribe to both channels for a long time now. Waited for colab like this. Great video.
2:12 Patrick trying to keep a straight face while Alec and Will lose it has been the best thing I've seen this year. On another topic, completely my opinion with the knowledge (or lack there of) that I have, I think Ethan should've been mentioned that he made the hammers. But I don't know what agreements y'all have made off camera. I don't know if he's fine with it or not, when I watched his video he seemed really pumped that he was given this task by you (Alec). Anyways the hammers are beautiful and I respect the craftsmanship that y'all have. keep doing what you love to do!
Is this a subtle hint to a new show called “Will it forge weld?” Each week Alec and Will take random metals and see if they forge weld haha
Yes! GMM crossover all the way
Alec the sound of that idea (sorry, I couldn't resist)
I can hear it now...
"WELCOME TO ANOTHER EPISODE OF WELDING WITH WILL!!!"
(I LIKE ALLITERATION!)
144p-th 👍
Alec: "...forge quarters..."
*U.S. Secret Service ALREADY knows your location*
Lol
Wow the oven is your forge in this episode. Kudos to Paragon!
Great collaboration, Patrick is an amazing gold/quarter/meteorite/(your material here) smith and designer, his creations are great... And most glow in the dark.
Canadian here, as someone who has to use screws on a daily basis I would much rather use Robertson over Phillips. It is far too easy to strip a Phillips head screw.
That's why Torx is becoming far more popular and used almost everywhere now.
@@albe23 torx is the way to go.
I only own torx nowadays, though its easier to get hold of torx than Robertson in the uk
Patrick: We might just have to forge a ring.
Alec: Could make sense.
Me: Twenty-Five cents. 😎
The cinematography on this channel is amazing
I know but you still wanna be safe and should ask thanks for teaching me something new
THE MORE YOY KNOW!😀😀
first thought after reading the title - 'well, def not legally' lol...
took me a while to understand what you said
It would be legal if they didn't monetize it whoops
I was thinking the same thing isn't it illegal to destroy currency
Nah, it’s allowed for artistic purposes
*disclaimer - its just a joke, not to be taken as official u.s. mint policy
WAIT? I thought y’all were making all the hammers that are going on sale??????
the amount of volume they would have to produce would prevent them from creating youtube videos - this doesn't mean that they are worse quality hammers, and the design is still Alec's - Ethan Harty makes them (google him)
Huh Ethan Harty is from my neck of the woods. He does make nice hammers. So does Shaun from front step forge.
Liam Jack I seen you comment this on someone else’s comment. Alec has been suggesting that they were made by himself not another blacksmith and then tax his viewers! Not impressed by Alec’s tactics, he could have brought this other blacksmith on and said this is the individual that will be making the hammers we are selling and give the guy credit!!!!!!!!!!!
@@jhsplaya His touchmark is on the hammer - and its "I saw" not "I seen"
Ethan Harry is a good friend of Alec's I believe and studied under him, if you're gonna outsource better to do it to someone who makes good tools and deserves the work. Also looks like Ethan's JR touchmark also adorns the hammers so credit where credit is due.
That was a really fun one!
If he had yelled "Noice" at 5:58 instead of "Woo" it would have made my day, if you know what I mean.
Alec: lets take money, make a ring to sell for more money.
*genius*
stonks
Recycling
Look that’s capitalism. You spend money to get money. Easily spoken.
That's how it's worked for most of human history.
**STONKS**
The fact that Will couldn't hold back the laughter at his own coin trick 😂😂
Lol. You youngsters have so much fun. So glad I subbed, while Alec was in the UK.🇨🇦❤️🥋
In answer to the question posed as the title of this video (without having watched it yet), yes, you most certainly can! I use copper pennies (pre 1982) and nickels to make Mokume Gane billets for bracelets, knife bolsters, etc... Just a trick to try; if you pickle the coins a little in vinegar before you go to welding them together you'll get rid of the oxidation layer and they seem to weld easier.
Rather than TIG weld the coins, I made a little fixture of two stout 1/2" thick billets of steel about 4" long that are bolted together on each end to make a compression jig. I put the stack in the compression jig, crank it down in my post vise, tighten down the bolts while the stack is under compression in the vise, and then heat the whole lot to welding temperature. Once it's fully heat-soaked, I put the jig back in the vise and squeeze it together again. That seems to do a decent job of initially setting the weld. After that, the billet comes out of the jig, and on the subsequent welding heats I don't hammer the billet very hard. I generally deo about 3-4 welding heats and tapping before I start working the billet. I find that light taps with a hammer that has a slightly rounded face seems to compress the coin centers together quite nicely when setting the weld.
It's not illegal, people. If he was forging a quarter to look like a dollar coin, THAT would be illegal.
Wrong any defacing of a coin or a bill is technically illegal. However probably not going to cause any kind of uproar as this was meant mostly as a deterrent to stop forgery.
Title 18, Chapter 17 of the U.S. Code
In Italy it's illegal, and in other country too i think, because you are not the owner of the coins, the State Is.
I'm pretty sure it illegal to destroy,alter or make money without permission from the U.S. Government.
It is very much illegal... Destroying money alters the amount of tender that exists. It changes (without documentation) the value of the U.S. dollar. The government can't just make money to have more of it. It changes its value, same if it's destroyed!
For anyone interested in further reading on the topic:
www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/331
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elongated_coin
www.parkpennies.com/pressed-penny/are-penny-press-machines-legal.htm
Mutilating a coin without fraudulent intent is legal. We are not passing our mutilation off as currency. Just like the penny presses all around the country at popular attractions where you pay 25c to get the machine to squish a penny for you!
People wanting to know about the hammers look up Ethan harty
maaan this guys so young and so cool wish more would be like this is so interesting
This video feels for me like you've just read my thoughts. Really, I always wanted to email PAD about you, to ask for a video with you two together, making a complex thing, like I always wanted to do, from blacksmithing and creating new materials to a final product, like rings or pendants. If you could check my history, seeing the last videos I watched, it's all about mixing metals with different colours and different patterns (like the mokume gane from your chanel ), and then I was continuing with one video from PAD, having that mix metal bar made as a ring. ASTONISHING! You know, following your will, and living the dream, inspire others. Verry satisfied seeing you together and I'm glad to see that things worked out without me intervening. I wish one day I could meet you in person. I really want to get into this as a job and as a hobby as well. Who knows maybe a lifestyle too, making plans to travel around the world and collecting agates, crystals, quarts and God know what other beautiful rocks you might find, in all kind of places, in all kind of circumstances Anyway... Hope you guys are well in these hard times and stay so, making more videos haha.
Everyone focused on the quarters, while ignoring the fact he no longer makes his own hammers?? No one remembers him making batches of hand made hammers??
Yeah I didn't get a chance at the last batch and was hoping to buy one but now they just have his mark on them, just not the same.
Remember watching him and Sam at the Baker street workshop knocking a big batch out....they where the good old days
@@paulwilson1015 yes, when there was more whack whack and less yack yack.
the amount of volume they would have to produce would prevent them from creating youtube videos - this doesn't mean that they are worse quality hammers, and the design is still Alec's - Ethan Harty makes them (google him)
@@liamjack5944 I didn't say they weren't good quality, I just noticed his stamp is on hammers not made by him. This means the hammers, no matter the quality, are basically merchandise.
Personally, I wouldn't put my makers mark on another person's work.
All the people complaining that they "destroyed" a couple quarters, just stop. Just stop.
its copper and nickle...I just don't understand why you'd bother
@@zacharymacquiddy5531 That actually isn't completely true. There are exceptions to the laws about defacing US currency. Art is one of those exceptions.
Lol good throw Will xD It chucked itself in the lathe and everything!
The video's back! Yay!
Awesome, all i wanted in life is an Alec Steele hammer not made by Alec Steele !
So, who makes the hammers? Isn't it the point that we want to buy hammers from you and largely made by you?
I mean if they're to the same quality for less money I'd still be interested (I like the style of hammer, don't care that he made it), but I do wonder who made them.
i remember when Alex used to make Anvils and Hammers.....i'll pass on the outsourced hammers.
Now imagine if 1000+ people ordered a hammer made by Alec and will, now do you think they really have the time and money to make all those hammers for people without getting overworked or messing them up? You’re not thinking about the lives they have outside of TH-cam and on TH-cam as creators
YourOnlySenpai That's when you either charge more and/ or have limited runs.
Btw, it looks like Ethan Harty (someone that Alec taught?) is making the hammers up in canada, also by hand. Looks like his name's on them as well
You're still my favorite TH-camr after all this time
Will and his sweet tricks are the best.
I think you meant to say, "the superior Canadian robertson head screw!" haha
Growing up i saw them all over the place🇨🇦, just a few years ago i found out they're not common in the states and are used as security bits lol
I prefer them, as they dont strip out, that and star bits... I know they have names but I call them square and star...
They're everywhere in the states. I use them or torx because they dont make the bit jump. I can pick them up at any hardware store.
wait...
you arent making the hammers??
I love how will just thought his quarter magic from his childhood was the best darn thing since sliced bread.
Very nice work and presentation as always. Just an ideal it wold be nice if you can make a pare of brass knuckles and use the roll of quarters as an handle.
you don't make your own hammers to sell?
Started blacksmithing about 6 months ago finally made my 100 leafs !!!
You guys should have a switch blade competition and use the shredded cash micarta... just a suggestion, i love the channel its a hell of a learning experience, keep up the good work - gage velasquez
Oooh, I bet that resin/shredded cash/gold bar would make beautiful knife handle scales!!!
So a while back when Alec was visiting paragon and talking about LEAN manufacturing, I was thinking to myself “I wonder how Alec is gonna apply this to the shop” well we know now.
Etch the quarters before forging. Get's rid of oxidisation layers, oils and pretty much everything. Should work well loke that!
Then they might risk removing the nickel outer layer which is what gives the mokume its pattern
Wow I did not think such a thing could be done well played good sirs
7:12 " it could make cents" lol Alec u champion I appreciate your wit ;) God bless you sir
When I read "quarters" my brain autocorrected it to "quartz" like the crystal and I was super confused until you said quarters in the video. lol
Why’s your makers mark on hammer heads you didn’t actually forge?
Sounds like a forgery
Unless you made them and sent them away to get handled
I agree it is wrong
You think apple is making there products in house? No it's based off their design and built on large scale by outsourced factories and then they slap an apple on it.
Jack M Consumers buy different products for different reasons. I don’t care who made my iPhone because I know apple is responsible for whether or not it functions. There’s nothing proprietary about Alec’s hammer design. We didn’t want them for the branding, or the design. We wanted to support him buy spending our hard earned money on the fruits of his hard-created artistry.
No one will pay as much for a photocopy or robot rendition of the Mona Lisa
No chance I’d buy that.
I dunno he's been doing shirts forever with his mark on them and no one expected that he was sewing them together at night after making videos.
That throw to the lathe, what skill 😍
Love seeing Ethan’s hammers! He’s a close buddy of mine
every time i see Alec talking about "a good cup of coffee"and then proceeds to make slightly murky water i'm sad.
BlazingMandril it’s not tea, he has no idles what he’s doing.
That's literally what coffee is, relax about it. Only love for you though. 😗
The mission of finding a good cup of joe in the uk is a miserable one.
It's the tea drinking British guy trapped inside him
someone should teach him the ettiquete
As a Canadian, I totally support the Robertson "square" screws! They don't slip off like those crappy Phillips head 😜😜
Thumbs up for will throwing it into the lathe. 👍👍
I’m confused, these are Alec Steele branded hammers, but aren’t actually made by Alec? Who’s the actual manufacturer then? I realize there would hardly be time to hand forge that amount of hammers, but still. It’s a reproduction of an Alec Steele hand forged hammer, which (I might be mistaken) was actually a design borrowed from his teacher.
Ethan Harty makes them
Made by Ethan Harty, a talented Blacksmith that was taught tool making by Alec a few years ago
Liam Jack - Cheers! Ethan makes some beautiful hammers. He has the identical hammers as Alec’s for sale on his website, only with his makers mark, and a natural non blackened handle.
@@Dan_Kornfeld very similar design, yes, but not identical - the face is more rectangular on alec's hammers - it's a small thing which I personally like the look of
Trade. meh.
Black Rifle Coffee Company. Hell Yes please!
I like how people are complaining that he didn't make the hammers, but like half of his business is about trying to make blacksmithing tools easily and readily available to people who want to get into it. So no, he doesn't have time to hand craft hammers for everyone, but he can provide a quality product to anyone who is looking to get into it.
Wills humor is so dry, but hilarious. I love it
And I definitely approve of the blues. Goes well with this video
Will’s face when he drops that quarter. Priceless!
Dont use paper tape for shipping heavy items like hammers unless you pack them really well, if the hammer shifts during handling it will break through the tape
I love how Will cracks himself up
Love the video, I think I might try to do something like this in one of my own videos
Hey Alec, my Grandpa is sick and it looks like he is going to pass soon. He was a veteran and did house work up until now, he is 90. If you could make a peice that says Raymond Dian and put it in the shop at some point that would be appreciated. I showed him your katana, the claymore, the stiletto dagger, and the GOT war hammer and he was very impressed at the craftsmanship you and Will put into the peices. Keep on with the good work I like it and he appreciated it.
Edit: My Grandpa passed this morning. He was, luckily, not in pain.