This CRUCIAL Part Of Depersonalization Recovery Is Often NEGLECTED
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2024
- This clip was taken from my Inner Circle Coaching Mentorship (Link to apply below). If you're struggling with depersonalization or derealization I know this will add a lot of value to you. Depersonalization and derealization recovery is difficult, but doable.
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It's so sad that it's not a well know thing among doctors, it definitely needs more awareness. It's such a horrible disorder...
Woah your story is exactly the same as mine. Weed triggering it, years of spending time in my head, dissociating with video games. If only I heard this when I first got DPDR haha. I'm finally getting back into my body and this helped me even more. Thanks
Glad this encouraged you!
Weed is exactly what triggered it for me too!!
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did you have to quit video games in the end or did you notice gaming making it worse any?
The haze is slowly clearing from my 5 week DPDR episode. I have never experienced this before in my life, but as a heavy heavy daily cannabis user for over 6+ years, on top of extreme anxiety and panic lying dormant in me- I’m starting to piece together what may have happened. I didn’t have a bad experience on cannabis, I had some strange flu bug that made me start feeling super sick and I fixated that I was dying- feeling my paranoia heighten each time I would smoke. Last week, I started getting full blown disassociating panic attacks. I am about to go on my 6th day sober, utilizing CBD. I am so glad there is a resource like you out here.
Today I had a bad DPDR attack after not feeling it for a few days, and for some reason, I found a lot of peace in seeing it come and go after being gone. Like, understanding that it’s a piece of me that I need to love and fix.
I feel like I vented a lot, but, it felt good.
Thanks for sharing
How long did it last
It has to do with you being in your head. I find that I slip back into DPDR when I’m trying to do too much. Instead of doing what you actually naturally want to do, I do what I SHOULD do or what I think I should do which leads me to overextending myself and that’s when I slip in.
Can relate. I've got a very intense period in my work right now where I'm carrying a lot of responsibillity. It makes me feel I'm more in my head and I get very fatigued every workday. Sometimes I have to stay home one day to recover a bit.
Hope you are doing well!
Over extending ones self is for sure something to avoid. That’s why in my S5 method one of the S’s is “setting boundaries”. Specifically setting boundaries that prevent fatigue. Because once fatigue hits, it begins to signal to the nervous system that one is having trouble fleeing from a tiger, and thus Dpdr can begin to kick in at the point of exhaustion because the brain things the person is about to get eaten.
DPDR has made sports really stressful to play I really don’t want to quit but i got so stressed while playing because of DPDR it never used to be like that
I feel you man! I play volleyball and it’s so hard to focus on concentrate like i don’t feel I can control how I play
This is HUGE! Definitely a big help for me on my journey man! Great stuff!
It's so important! Happy to help.
Thank you so much for this video, your story is similar to me. I have obsessed over existence, god, cosmos, matrix, reality and i always thought i had schizophrenia.
Sometimes my dpdr would cause me such horror that i would feel like fainting. I felt like i was one stimuli away from epilepsy, i felt like reality was breaking down, i saw things that were part of my imagination, i felt like i was possesed by a demon, i felt sick, i felt a strong sense of doom a strong sense of abandonment.
I blamed it on some bad lsd or weed trips, i blamed it on medicine or genetics.
And also refused to just "breathe" because it sounded so stupid.
MY ENTIRE WORLD is crumbling, EXISTENCE itself seems to stop making sense, GOD has abandoned us, and you are asking me to breathe? "Bro there are more important things going on right now" is said to myself. But for the first time I stopped to just fucking breathe and it was almost comedic, i literally just went "huh.. Well would you look at that, existence suddenly made sense again."
What things did you see that were part of your imagination?
@@pabletoday9782 Hi, how are you now? Have you recovered from dpdr /scary existential thoughts? What kind of breathing method did you use??
Pable thank you for commenting it is just so reinforcing seeing somone else with the same experiences. 👍
Reality breaking down - this is a terrifying feeling, yes.
Jordan, you are brilliant. 100% correct. Thank you for being here for us who are struggling
Happy to help!
I had sociala anxiety befor lockdown. And online school made me feel so alone, sad, angry and stressed that after some time of extreme stress and emotional pain i was numb (on topp of the social anxiety i already had). I couldnt feel or think. I spent my days watching YT and trying to distract myself from the numbness.
I also have social anxiety, and relate to this. Online school was hell for me.
Great explanation! Thank you so much for this video! This makes sense!
Happy to help! Have a great day!
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Happy to help!
WOW! Today and the past days, months and even the year I KNEW I ven then I had to strong intuition
Glad this helped bring some clarity I hope you’re a subscriber!
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thank you!! you are so understand me. every word, starting with the smoking that i smoke when i was 15 y.o and now im 38. i am now at the worst time in my life after tapering benzodiazpine that make everything be a pure nightmare... before of that i was 24/7 dp dr. i was looking for answers and yes, it is probably Ptsd. my story is too long and i dont have much focus now or energy,im also 2 weeks after covid. what i wanted to say that my dp dr is so bad since the doctor took me off 3 meds at ones include clonapine before almost a year and it is not over, im between loosing completly realiity and there is some line like the one i can wrote now,and understand you what i coldnt do before... im not going outside. i have a list of symptoms but the dp dr i think its the worst thing of all. thanks for sharing you are understand me, i want it to be a little better and to get out from this terrible situation
Thank you! You’re hitting home
6 years ago i had a bad experience with weed i had a massive panic attack, then sometime after i was lay in bed with my girlfriend and baby i was awake and just had a thought/image of picking my baby up and dropping her down the stairs for no apparent reason as you can imagine this scared me to death. then ever since at least once a year i had 2-4 weeks of intrusive thoughts and anxiety that i was a bad person i would do this do that deep down knowing i would not. but then last year the anxiety got too much i think thats when i started with dr i would look at my hand and it just didn't seem like mine or real.. and now i am going through an episode and constantly think the worlds not real even though i know it is this is so hard but i am determined to get rid of it completely.. thankyou for your videos
Dude im right there with you!!! Im in exact boat with everything you just said
@@charleej2510 really bro you can talk to me anytime if you like mate so you know your not alone
How are you now bro I had the exact symptoms 3yrs ago and till this day I have many of the symptoms. If you got better how ?
mine started after i had a miscarriage and developed anemia from it. 😢 then i became pregnant again and increased hormones made it 10xxxx worse. now i've been feeling out of my body for a month. my body movements dont feel like im controlling them.
Great work thank you
I want some. recommendations of this issue in books to read.
Can you help me please ?
Jordan’s program.
Dude, this exact same thing happened to me in 2008!!! CRAZY!!
@@larspikke2 I did! The doctor put me on zoloft for my anxiety and the depersonilization eventually went away on its own.
@@larspikke2 it was a slow process. Those medicines take a little time to work so it's different for everyone. What they did was put me on low dose xanax as needed until the zoloft kicked in. That helped take the edge off. It WILL get better! I know it's hard and it's scary but it WILL GET BETTER. The best thing I did was talk to a professional. Medication and exercise saved me!
@@larspikke2 zoloft is a gradual medication. Some people notice changes within a week and some take longer. But what you'll notice is that your racing thoughts will start to slow down and the anxiety that causes the DP will start to subside because your overall anxiety is much lower! The xanax took the DP and panic attacks away for me when I would take them, but they can become really addictive so I tried to hang in there whenever I could without taking them. But with people that have bad anxiety like us, you will notice a huge difference in how you feel when you're on the right medication. You just have to go into the mindset that it's going to be okay. It's going to get better. That you're not the only person that's going through this and it's not going to hurt you! You can do this. You just have to make the first move!
@@larspikke2 it's not hopeless at all Tim. I promise. That's how I felt, too but it's just because it's a really tough feeling to go through. But I promise you, it WILL be okay!
@@larspikke2 I'm telling you, getting on an ssri changed my life! I don't even think about the DP anymore.
My dp / dr has decreased (I take medication and have practiced acceptance) but I still have existential thoughts and doubts. I feel like I live in a memory or in a circle. This is normal? Is it related to anxiety and depression?
Well let me ask you, if your worry about something that you don’t know what it is, isn’t that anxiety? These thoughts are not about the condition, these thoughts ARE the condition. If your having anxiety about anxiety recovery, it’s probably related to anxiety lol.
I hear what your saying coach but I have no clue how to make a plan or get in touch with my body or emotions to start recovering properly. Could you make a video on this it would really help!
YES!!! This is what I’m looking for too! I trying to watch all his vids to get the information I need
@@emiley5584 get his course.
...and what if we have crossed over from freeze into literal shutdown? I have no anxiety or emotions anymore. Which is unheard of because i had over strong emotions and serious social anxiety.
Has there ever been a point in your dpdr timeline that you just accepted the fact that you are stuck like this in your little comfort zone without any motivation to overcome this?
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I’d just like some input, I first had dpdr when I was 17, gradually got better over the course of 3 months. Went 2 years without any problems or encounters of it. Then recently was in a stressful event and snapped back into dpdr. This time around it seems to be more intense and longer lasting. I’ve had it for 2 an half months so far and I’m still in the depths of it and have seen no improvement, if anything it’s worse and I cant stop worrying and obsessing about it. Is there anyone who shares the same experience where it was a piece of cake to recover the first time compared to the second time? I guess my main concern is why it’s lasting longer than the first time, makes me think it’s permanent this time. This has been extremely distressing to me.
We can talk about it then if you’d like, I’m in a similar situation and I can tell you all the stress behind it is all gone.
@@waltz9230 what’s your situation?
@@LilyStultz I’ve had DPDR for a very long time and I’ve come to understand it more deeply recently and have also recovered from it in the past and I’m confident I’ll be able to recover from it again since I know why and what’s causing it, hence why it doesn’t stress me out anymore.
@@waltz9230 how long have you had it and how long were you recovered for?
@@LilyStultz Well I had my first long-term episode when I was about 14 and it probably lasted a couple months but then and I stayed recovered for… about 3 years.
Ok so i have a question. I recovered 100% from this i cut off sugar in all its forms and only ate cooked food. Now i ve been thinking about all the times that i experienced some episodes of dp dr (only lasted a few minutes and never paid attention to them because they weren t that intense, it was just a change in perception) and i remember that in nearly all of them I drunk coke or coffee while being stressed by a significant event. Now i recovered from anxiety induced dp dr, but i m trying to find all the things that may trigger it again. I got rid of anxiety, depression, but i m afraid that once i will eat sweets as before it may come back. I don t drink caffeinated drinks anymore, but caffeine is present also in chocolate, cakes and many more. I researched that subject a lot and caffeine increases adrenaline and cortisol in the brain, inducing the fight or flight reaction and dp dr sensations. Eating chocolate and sweets that contain cocoa can bring it back? It s hard to avoid them and I also crave them a lot..
Hey! Caffeine is a sympathetic nervous system stimulant. It for sure increases stress. But that’s not a problem as long as someone is not very stressed out otherwise. Mild levels of sympathetic nervous system activation enhance performance up until the point of fatigue, then good stress turns into bad stress (distress) and that’s when anxiety/panic, and eventually kick in.
@@coachjordanhardgrave i understand, so i should eat everything i want as long as i take care of not being stressed.
@@alexandradobre61 drink green tea with an L-theanine capsule instead of Coffee. BTW how long did it take you to recover? Did you get lots of existential thoughts during your dpdr? Did you do anything other than cut off bad foods?
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So everything happened a few months ago in September at my uncles house I'm only 14 so I wasn't smoking but I was just sitting there and I had a bad panic attack I felt like I was gonna pass out/black out and everything felt like it was numb and heart was beating so fast and I had to go home and fell asleep the next day u felt off yet but was better and then it went away. The second time it happend was in November when I had covid I had another panic attack and again the same symptoms but it never went away after and I haven't had a panic attack in a few weeks but I still feel dpdr and I'm still scared and I just want to feel normal again I can't imagine living My life like this for the rest of my life and at times I get scared that I'm gonna die or somethings gonna happen to me like a heart attack or something. Idk how I recovered so fast the first time I had football starting and school starting the next couple days and I don't know if that helped me or what but the second time i never recovered from it because I've had nothing to do really besides go to school.
I feel the same way especially after COVID. How are you doing now?
@@CueTheHorn still dealing with the dpdr but I'm on the road to recovery right now the thing that I do that helps me the most is playing sports and getting exercise
@@gabeschmitt22how are you now
@@aryanoza5828 if I’m being honest it’s gone now. I haven’t thought about it or anything for a while now until u commented which I’m glad u did. It just takes time and just need to find things to occupy ur mind and it just goes away on its own.
@@aryanoza5828 and I used to doubt that I would ever get passed it and I would always think about it but I proved myself wrong
hey! i also got dp and dr but i also have a problem with ,,seeing“. it’s kind of like i see diffrent and that’s so weird. it’s like i have never seen before. i know it sound strange but i feel so bad and it doesn‘t stop. can someone explain me why i suddenly see different
I started seeing differently too, I thought I needed glasses but my vision was fine. I have an understanding what your saying but have no clue what causes it. I just know it sucks ass!! I believe in you! And things do get better! I’m not even close to recovery but my vision problem has decreased!
Can someone explain how to remove specific anxiety triggers related to objects, places etc
Is DPDR the same response no matter what caused it..say a person who got DP DR from a drug withdrawal /OD got dp dr for the same reason as someone who got it from Covid or a concussion?
Yo jordan, can u hit an overwhelmpoint without getting dpdr? Like just a panic attack?
Absolutely. DPDR is a response of being in an overwhelmed point for too long.
@@444_gd yea since it's a a flight, fight, or freeze reponse since your brain detects that you can't fight or run from the dpdr it's only response is the freeze response that's why our perception feels altered and muscles are tense bracing your body for impact.
An overwhelm point in the nervous system doesn’t indicate a panic attack. People have panic attacks all the time and don’t enter a traumatized state. And when I had my first panic attack in 2008 from the weed experience, it took hours of having a panic attack before I reached an overwhelm point and Dpdr kicked in. Dpdr can kick in without a panic attack though.
Jordan, how do I get some online coaching? I worked with you a few years ago and just recently relapsed with DPDR.
Hey Anthony, Good to hear from you, I do 12 weeks of coaching now you can apply at coachjordanhardgrave.com/apply
4 figure investment to apply?
Hey man ive been suffering from persistant derealization 24/7 for the past 2 1/2 years, even when im laughing and feeling ok with no anxiety it is still there, is this normal? Im fearing i wont be able to recover.
maybe subconscious anxiety that you dont even realise
Fearing that you won’t be able to recover is not a rational thought, it is your anxiety. Recovery is always possible 100% back to normal with DPDR. Start with giving your body what it needs, try to spot anxiety thoughts of thinking you will never ever feel better or normal again and accept them but mark them as false
Thanks Jordan for your support. It helps me a lot. I Will buy the manual by the end of the month.
Are the thoughts about humanity, like am i made to be human? And, People do horible things, maybe i dont want to be human anymore. I know this is strange, also the questions I have about why am I alone in my body? Like, i dont want to share my body haha but I cant see myself, only in the mirror. Do you understand the strange questions and thoughts? Existential things. Is this a normal thing?
Lots of love. V
I hear about these questions every day from my clients. Obsession over existence and consciousness. By the way, I don’t have a manual, but an online course. Reason I say that is there is a Dpdr product with manual in the name that I don’t want you to get confused with :)
Hey i have ear related symptoms i mean my ears keep changing pressure and that pressure feels in my head like my head is going to explode or im going to faint or die. My Dizziness is ear and Neck related. My neck is always stiff and my right ear's always clogged it won't pop up at any cost
These are all symptoms of anxiety and being in fight or flight. You gotta work on relaxing your body
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Can you talk about dpdr and schizophrenia? I have a fear that my dpdr symptoms are going to turn into schizophrenia even though I know that it is a defense mechanism
I used to have tbis badly when I first got dpdr and now and again I get moments of it, but it's impossible. If you're scared of being schizophrenic then u aren't because if you were you wouldn't be aware of it at first. It's impossible for dpdr to cause schizophrenia
It’s the straw that broke the camels back
Ok. How do I fix it?