Thank you so much for talking about how misogyny is not just violence but an escalating pattern!!! Men don’t wake up out of nowhere and decide to be violently misogynistic. It’s years of societal conditioning and radicalization that reinforces their behavior. It’s so exhausting living as a queer femme but knowing there’s so many passionate women/girls/afab people like you who care is so important. This channels community gives me hope.
I cried with you girl, it fucking hurts. The fact that misogyny is the thing not considered a hate crime is so crazy. It might sound weird to say but the only thing that gives me hope is the boys at my college. They are all literally the most sweet and helpful with each other and I've noticed such a behavior shift in the boys in my city within my age group. Obviously things in general are still absolutely horrendous but it's the little things I see that make me so hopeful.
Don’t usually comment on videos but I wanted to say thank you for talking about it. Almost every woman I know, my mum and sister included, has been sexually assaulted, and I think about that nearly every day. It makes me furious when I have to explain to men why I have a problem with their argument, “yes it’s bad, but…” There is no but when it comes to sexual assault. And please don’t apologise for your reaction. You weren’t incoherent - I heard you loud and clear, and I agree with everything you said. The world is not a safe place for women and I’m sick of people pretending it is.
Your tears are powerful Jordan, they’re proof of your passion. I have so much respect for you, because as a woman I think we all feel the same way at the moment. For myself I’ve felt so hopeless recently when it comes to misogyny especially online. I’m a teacher and these things are trickling down to my children who are AT MOST 4 years old. The problem is so severe, globally, but it feels nothing has ever been done or is being done. I’m scared now, for the children i teach, for myself, for all the women in my life. You’re right Jordan. We owe our children better, we owe our girls better.
Your talking about all these things is so meaningful to me. I feel like everyone around me is so desensitized to everything that's going on and won't spend the time talking about them for fear of ruining the mood or just repeating another shitty thing that's happening, but the amount of care and feeling that you share means so much to me. thank you Jordan x
First, I wanna say that you have ABSOLUTELY cultivated the space you believe your podcast to be and not only am I grateful to have it (I LOVE listening while I'm driving like I'm having a convo or a cute catch-up with a friend) but I am grateful that it is safe enough to discuss these topics. I felt really sad when you were getting choked up at 28:51 because it reminded me of the book I read over the weekend (Wordslut! Recommend HIGHLY I wanna hear your opinion) where in the chapter about catcalling Gordon-Smith said "Can I tell you why I found this stuff really depressing? I feel like I’ve been walking around for days now, believing that people want to be nice, and believing that it comes from a good place, and believing that guys are just trying to have fun and complement people. But it’s real, real hard for me to keep believing that when I tell people how angry it makes us, I tell people how sad it makes us, I tell people about sexual violence, statistics, and the reaction isn’t, 'That matters to me, and I’m going to stop.' the reaction is, 'That doesn’t matter to me.'" The book asserts that "the underlying problem with all of these forms of sexual trespassing is that they rely on the assumption that a man has an automatic right to a woman’s body. It’s a display of social control, signaling to women that they are intruders in a world, owned by men, and thus have no right privacy... But when he says this stuff, he's really just playing dumb. Because research shows that when sexual harassers are asked to switch places with their targets, they are able to grasp quite quickly, that what they’ve done is wrong. It’s not that their intentions have been misunderstood - these dudes realize the harm they’ve caused. It’s simply that they aren’t motivated to care. They lack empathy." Like it is so ridiculous how transparent men are about their misdeeds and they could not care less!! I think Jordan Adika and Jarvis Johnson were saying something about how the guy like Ben Shapiro really had to present their misogyny as "facts" like they had to JUSTIFY it but Andrew Tate gets on God's internet and sits there and lies and people eat it up. Like people don't need a basis for this stuff anymore they GENUINELY just want to hear it. I think it also has to do with the huge wave of anti-intellectualism in the West recently, too. It's heartbreaking and I'm glad we're talking about it because it can't go without pushback.
Update upon finishing: I cried with you. I'm so sorry you feel like you have to apologize for your tears because not enough people consider emotions in this-it is SO refereshing to see someone cry about misogyny because I do all! the! time! You weren't incoherent or anything you were passionate because it IS serious and it needs to be said by literally anybody oh my goodness I understand your hopelessness. I just think there's no empathy in this world like I don't see these women as numbers in news articles they are people that should still be with us and don't deserve to live with the trauma of surviving radicalized men. I've never even HEARD anybody call this phenomenon terrorism before but you are so right and it is so crushing to have only now come to this conclusion because islamophobia has made it impossible to see that violence is violence and directed hate needs to be called what it is. People act like femcide only exists in Mexico or some "oppressed" nation whatever the hell that's meant to mean but it is literally at our doorstep. I am so scared every day it is like holding my breath for an eternity. I have a little sister and all I wanna do is protect her. Gender based violence is the scariest thing in the world and it is so EXHAUSTING to go from being called a bitch and having to swallow that to dying to male hatred for us and not even having the luxury of holding their contempt accountable. I really do appreciate you using your voice-it doesn't always SEEM like a lot but it matters. To people like me, it really matters.
im so glad you spoke about the rusell brand situation. im from mexico & misogyny has over time also been a topic i have become very passionate about. if you want to feel infurated, read a bit about ciudad Juárez. i grew up with that city in the news daily. unfortunately, i've had to stop watching the news because that types of news is no longer just a thing that happens in Juárez. i mean, it never has, but it's brutal how much feminicide has expanded country-wide & i think it part it was because no one, no politian, wanted to help Juárez, so if the cartels could get away with terrorizing women there, anyone could do it anywhere. it's insane how bad its gotten. my dad is a lawyer, so he hears a lot of things through the grapevines. i distinctly remember how mid-pandemic he sat me & my sister down to tell us we could non longer come home alone at night from work because fellow lawyers & cops that nlknownhe has daughters told him our city was so dangerous for women in that moment that he shouldn't be leaving us alone. we both are grown women, we were too, when my dad told us. a year later my sister told me i should be avoiding the uptown area because there was a serial killer killing women with my general description. in the ladt presidential elections, the only female candidate had to back down two weeks prior to elections, she never gave an explanation but everyone knew it was that she was getting death-threats by the cartels. it might not even seem related, but i think that if even as a presidential candidate with a significate following, your party that has also had previous candidates that have also gotten death threats, even they cant keep you safe -- then what woman in the country is?? who is safe? and even if you die, 0% of homicides get resolved in mexico...feminicide is barely a crime as is. your family will have to fight through teeth and nail to get it recognized as a femicide even if your killer leaves threats at your door. how can anyone deny yhat misogyny is well and alive today?
also, don't feel bad for getting emotional over the subject. it's such fucking dire situation everywhere we go, it's worth getting emotional over it. these are our lives, we live in so much fear and a lot of people refuse to acknowledge it.
thank you so much for this episode Jordan. I've been feeling so hopeless recently in terms of how widespread and accepted misogyny is. it feels like a fact of life that we will always have to contend and put up with... I recently deleted insta just because the absolute STATE of reels comments was so disturbing to me. I'm so tired of seeing women torn to shreds just for existing; it haunts me always. it informs my internal dialogue in a way I hate more than anything. our girls are growing up like this, seeing these comments every day. their male peers are being radicalised by porn and "wellness" influencers into thinking violence against women is sexy, morally correct, natural... men truly hate us and it's fucking scary. seeing you cry over this and articulate everything I can't was so sad but also so validating. I often feel like I'm alone in this, that it's unreasonable how disturbed I am by misogyny in my daily life. thank you for reminding me that there are strong women beside me taking this seriously too. you are so intelligent, articulate and strong. love you heaps girly
Really great episode. I have a thought on the agony aunt part. I do agree that confronting the friend and try to solve some issues could be smart, but I think it's clear that the friend needs some therapy. Not meant in a mean or bad way, we all need some therapy
Girl im crying with you don’t apologise. We always have to talk and listen about these horrible things with such a straight face and is so refreshing to hear someone talk about these issues in the way i also feel about it 💔 I appreciate you so much thank you xx
I normally never comment but I just had to say that your speech and seeing your tears made me feel validated in my emotions and fears surrounding the topic. It’s so easy to feel like you’re alone in this battle, like you’re the only one trying to make a change, but everytime I watch you videos and especially this one, I get reminded that others are in this with me and that they feel the hurt of the world as deeply as I do. So thank you Theresa, you are making a difference🫶
As a man, I recoil reading the numerous tweets standing up for Russell brand and also Laurence Fox for what he said to Ava Evans. How is it that we live in this age and misogyny is still rampant?.
As a trans man I really empathise with women and the struggle with misogyny. It hit me hard when you said it feels like it’s so ingrained that nothing can be done. I too feel tired , with transphobia and every other form of hate. Like you said it’s all interlinked. I will always be a feminist! Stay strong gals and femmes i stand with you 💪💜
jordan, i speak for everyone here when i say that your vulnerability and anger made this one of my favourite episodes yet. you and your content are so important and i appreciate this corner of the internet you’ve created so much. ❤❤❤
thank you for speaking about misogyny! at first i was a little taken aback when you got upset but it is so necessary and valid and women are so often shamed for being deeply passionate to the point of tears about important subjects. i cried with you and i share all the frustration of how fucking depressing it all is. i cant believe that not even the murder of an innocent teenage girl on the street makes people wake up to the problem of misogyny. it’s truly sick
Started listening to this in the podcast but had to come here and say THANK YOU for being so real and crying, I am crying with you. Too many people list off stats or tell women's stories with no emotion, almost to the point that people end up getting completely desensitised to it. As women sometimes I feel like we aren't even allowed to be upset about these things anymore as well but it is all SO fucking upsetting!! Everything you said in this video was so important and you are absolutely making a difference. Thank you xxx
please don’t apologize for sharing your grief. i don’t really have the words to express my gratitude for your segment on misogyny. i feel like the threat of violence is always present for women in our society, and any time i’ve tried to explain that experience to a man i end up feeling crazy and misunderstood. and it’s hard to talk about lightly online because so much online feminist discourse has been taken over by terfs and i don’t want to get mixed up in that nonsense. the result is a lot of quiet fear, which has brought me to tears before and will again. xx
Thanks for this Jordan, really ❤️ A few years ago I was a lot more occupied with the omnipresence of misogyny and patriarchy, but it made me feel so heavy, and angry and hopeless and 'glossed over'. I think I welcomed the focus shift on intersectionality, because as a white/neurotypical/cishet/etc woman, it all felt a bit less personal and it was easier to detach from (despite loving and being surrounded with people of different marginalized groups). This episode took me back to when I lived with 2 fellow radical feminist friends, which was the most comforting experience of my life. I love how your podcast is like girlie time for me but we all know that at any time any convo with the girlies can take a dive into sharing frustrations about womanhood in a capitalist patriarchy. Seeing and hearing you talk about it here reminded me that it's important to keep allowing in the gravity of it all, despite the normalization and desensitization. To keep bringing it up, and to find sisterhood while doing it. We cannot fix it on the spot but we can comfort each other, like you did for me today. I feel seen, understood, not alone.
Thank you for talking about this Jordan, it does fucking hurt and I cried with you. I get why you want to keep Voicenotes as a safe space, but it's so important important we keep this conversation alive and don't allow misogyny and all the crimes it spurns to go unchecked. You're amazing ❤
I can’t tell you how much relief it gave me to hear you speak so candidly and emotionally about how the current misogynistic discourse is affecting you. I think about this every day, and sometimes it gets so upsetting and overwhelming. No one seems to talk about how emotional it really is. I think we all try to use humor to get by, but it can feel so isolating if no one is acknowledging how sad it is and how much it affects our daily thoughts as women.
Please don’t apologise for your tears and your hurt. I’ve never felt so seen than watching this video. This is something I cry alone in my room about all the time. Thank you for this video thank you for your emotion. Sometimes I feel crazy with how much the misogyny hurts me and how scared I feel and seeing someone share this pain makes me feel less like I’m screaming into a void.
really appreciate you daring to bare your heart like this online and giving voice to you and many of our anger against the violence of misogyny. your voiced hurt and anger is nothing to apologise for and is so powerful. although it feels like we are so powerless i hope you know you are genuinely making a difference in the online space you hold. even just speaking about it give myself and im sure others the ability to speak about it in our spheres as well. sending love to yourself Jordan and especially other women right now
this episode had me sobbing i had to pause and collect myself for a solid few minutes. thank you for talking about this and being emotional and real and raw. it’s nonsensical and it’s like everyone’s eyes are glazed over when it’s HAPPENING. i’m 20 years old and i have never met another woman who hasn’t been a victim of sexual harassment of some sort. what does that say?
Thank you so so much for this episode 💔 it’s hard to talk about the grief we have for ourselves and other women that comes with experiencing misogyny. It makes me feel validated and less alone reading these comments and seeing your own grief. Ty queen 👑
What really annoys me is that these men will claim what they go for younger women because they're at "peak fertility" even though they have no intention of settling down and starting a family. And would most likely leave a woman if she gets pregnant.
I'm a mom to a 4-year-old girl in the US, and I'm so cared. Hearing the stories of r^pe victims (and there are sooooo many that I just come by) has put me off of sex quite a bit. There's something about misogyny that doesn't actually care about little boys and destroys them too. We all hear how often they're r^ped too. I love you for talking about this
Hey Jordan, just thought I'd provide a bit of info for you about XL bullies and pit breeds. There's a hot hot hot debate about this topic. For me and the research I've read, I'm of the belief that these dogs were bred and historically selected to be aggressive and have "gameness" which is essentially a behavioural tendency to bite and not let go, withstand a lot of pain etc. These things make them incredibly dangerous when they do decide to attack, and like you said - unsavoury folks are really attracted to these dogs because of their reputation and thus the cycle continues. Some of the maulings these dogs have been responsible for are just abhorrent to say the least, it's utterly terrifying what they can do. Despite the "it's not the dog, it's the owner" thing, I still think the damage these dogs do outweighs this argument. Plus, dog breeds ARE genetically different from one another and do have distinct behavioural tendencies because of their selective breeding. It's not doggy racism essentially - it's based in actual fact (unlike people who have not been selectively bred by anyone lol) And they don't put them down! I believe the ban is just limiting adoption, enforcing mandatory desexing and muzzles. Eventually this *should* mean that the breed dies out, but pitbulls have been banned in many countries and that pften just results in the birth of a new, very similar breed with a different name - which is how the XL bully came about if I'm not mistaken! Oh and! Ultimately I think it's a good thing for these dogs. They're often left in no-kill shelters for their entire lives because of their reputation, and despite how dangerous they are, it's sad to see any animal live a life like that. If the ban results in less maulings and less dogs being kept in shelters for their whole lives then I'm all for it Love you and all that you do so much ❤
Listening while doing my makeup, big mistake. I really appreciate u being raw and vulnerable this episode i loved seeing this side if u even tho the topics are really hard to talk about.
thank u for talking abt misogyny in the manner that you did, being a woman is terrifying. sometimes i get so so so angry that my blood could boil, thinking about the fear that women have to feel when walking alone/at night and how Normal it is. the manosphere & its ethos are dangerous- the media and many creators, imo, treat it solely as a meme & something to cringe at. thanks for talking abt this w the gravity it deserves, because it’s legitimately fucked how okay this all is
As somebody who has never paid attention to Russell Brand even when he was quite famous, I was so confused about where all of this support for him came from??? Like even IF he was out here exposing "truths" about the media and government, does that just make ok for him to r*p* and abuse women and girls??? Like when people were trying to defend Cosby and R Kelly, you can acknowledge that the Cosby show was great representation for black americans on tv, or that R Kelly wrote good songs, and ALSO acknowledge that they deserve to face legal recourse for their crimes🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️. It really shouldn't be this hard to understand that.
watching this episode, genuinely changed my brain chemistry, hearing Jordan cry about OUR girls, as a 16 year old made me cry with her. While I was watching I was doing my make up to go to college, probably the same thing Elianne did the same morning that she was killed, her case alone already upset me, but hearing Jordan, speak about how violence is an escalating pattern and things like murder and violence are pretty much inevitable for men with deteriorated views, at least for the time being, made me feel so empty on the way to my bus stop, i worry for the future of women, i love u jordan u are the big sister of youtube🩷
Great episode as always! Thank you for the book recommendation, I've just ordered one for myself, and hope to get my mom (mother or 2 teen boys) to read it too
I’m obsessed with Bama rush!! The HBO doc sucked because the woman made it all about her putting on a wig?! But a lot of people hate septum piercings I love mine and was shocked to find that out but I don’t care I had to have it re done at one point and I was so scared the second time because I knew what to expect but I really didn’t feel right without it 😂
I'm a legal support navigator (i support survivors through police reporting and court) at a sexual violence center in Canada.... Misogynistic ideals like that, that women owe men sex is also rampant here in Canada, I find that one of the best ways to combat that radicalization, from my perspective, is to go in high schools and middle schools and talk about consent and healthy relationships. It's already in the curriculum (in my province), but I still get calls from teachers asking me to come to schools for my presentations and make sure that young boys realize that consent is a TWO--WAY street, and that they are not owed sex from men simply because they're "in the mood". I just honestly think it should really be taught in schools overall. There are unfortunately societal complexities as well... You can only teach them so much in schools, but if they see or hear differently at home or on social media, it's not as impactful... I wish I knew the answer, but it's clearly not a one-person solution. Gender-based violence needs to be fought/tackled as a huge collective effort. I hope I'm making sense. I also teared up, because I often don't allow myself to think of the societal scale of gender-based violence, or else I wouldn't be able to do my job. Don't apologize for tears, this is becoming such a serious and scary issue worldwide and reading through these comments and hearing your words makes me feel so much less alone, that there are so many other people who want to see change in this regard ❤
I feel so silly, but as an American corporate girlie, I heard “Excel Bullies” and I was like “omg is Microsoft pulling their licenses or something” 😅 I’ve always wanted a pit, but most apartments (at least in my area) have banned pits and you can’t even get pet insurance sometimes 😢
loved this video sm queen. I have a friend similar to the agony aunt email who blames everything on boys behaviours and I don't humour it anymore like I straight up tell her to consider it from the other person's side and not jump to conclusions and self sabotage. this friend doesn't value emailer's opinion, she just wants to be in an echo chamber and feel affirmed in her dramatic thought processes
Dude I feel you about the misogyny. I fear for my boys so much that I rarely let them hang out with other boys, it’s sad that I can’t just let my kids be kids because I can’t trust that they won’t be radicalized and all my hard work teaching them the right things will just go down the drain. It’s terrifying being a parent. I hate being a helicopter mom, but my worst fear is them hurting someone because of misogynistic peer pressure.
I just finished watching, as a 18yr old gay boy, this disgust me. Recently in the train, ( Paris ) a girl made a whole vidéo about someone actually c*mming on her and she went to alert a woman who said “it is what it is”. I don’t know what is worse between the man or the woman who should know what It feels like. Anyway, love you Jordan !
I loved the episode and I know a lot about dogs so ill Share my thoughts. From my research the UK government is planning on putting down all XL bullies which is just an attack on animal rights but I do agree that there should be restrictions on adoption and purchase of XL bullies. The owners of the dogs responsible for the attacks are usually people who find it fun to have a dog that is violent so they train them to be reactive or they are people who adopt or buy a reactive dog with no idea how to train them. I have a reactive dog and my dog has never attacked anyone cause me and my family train him and take percausions when we walk him outside and thats how it should be. I believe that banning and killing a bunch of dogs is cruel and not teaching anything to people about pet ownership responsability. Poodles for example are a dog Breed thats pretty reactive historically but people dont associate them with that nor do they train them to be reactive cause they dont look scary but psicologically they are in fact more prone to be violent. I dont know much about XL bullie psychology but they are a scary looking dog and there are people (usually men) who like to have scary looking dogs and train them to be agressive. I live in Portugal and dog fights are a thing and I see a lot of rescue pitbulls who came from dog fights and they are the loveliest dogs when u interact with them but they were trained to be reactive by nasty people who have fun seeing dogs fight. My own reactive dog is part pitbull and people are afraid of him and tell me to Kill him (yeah random people in the street told me to Kill my dog) just by looking at him when he is One of the sweets dogs ive ever rescued. I think this new law stems from misinformation and people not taking animal rights seriously but thats just what I think. Ive seen a lot of rescue cases cause i volunteer and usually a dog only Turns violent based on their surroundings and training. I hope this helps you get informed and Im sorry if theres any errors, English is not my first language
i'm happy the bullies are getting banned, a lot of them are heavily bred to the point where it is painful for them just to be alive some of them are extremely inbred. they aren't getting kulled, just a ban on people breeding them/bringing them into the country and heavy restrictions on the people who own those dogs.
Wrt xl bully banning, they’re responsible for 70% of fatalities related to dogs since 2021 and they’re just asking them to be spay/neutered and insured i think
please don’t apologise for being so emotional about this. I cried the whole way through with you. I am already in complete agreement with all of your points but I think you put everything across so succinctly and eloquently and without prejudice and I honestly just think we’re fucking done with separating facts from feelings because it clearly hasn’t fucking worked so far.
Not too sure why this came up in my recommends, but I can confirm that septum piercings are pretty much just normal now. I just started an art course at my local college and like half of all the girls younger than 30 seem to have one. I'm an old fart, so for me it's quite strange, especially when I think back to 1995 when Firestarter came out and how shocked people were by Keith Flint with his septum and tongue piercings. I suppose now it's face tattoos are the edgy thing, and that will become normal soon too probably haha. Best of luck with everything Jordan!
Thank you so much for talking about how misogyny is not just violence but an escalating pattern!!! Men don’t wake up out of nowhere and decide to be violently misogynistic. It’s years of societal conditioning and radicalization that reinforces their behavior. It’s so exhausting living as a queer femme but knowing there’s so many passionate women/girls/afab people like you who care is so important. This channels community gives me hope.
I cried with you girl, it fucking hurts. The fact that misogyny is the thing not considered a hate crime is so crazy. It might sound weird to say but the only thing that gives me hope is the boys at my college. They are all literally the most sweet and helpful with each other and I've noticed such a behavior shift in the boys in my city within my age group. Obviously things in general are still absolutely horrendous but it's the little things I see that make me so hopeful.
Don’t usually comment on videos but I wanted to say thank you for talking about it. Almost every woman I know, my mum and sister included, has been sexually assaulted, and I think about that nearly every day. It makes me furious when I have to explain to men why I have a problem with their argument, “yes it’s bad, but…” There is no but when it comes to sexual assault. And please don’t apologise for your reaction. You weren’t incoherent - I heard you loud and clear, and I agree with everything you said. The world is not a safe place for women and I’m sick of people pretending it is.
Cried throughout the entire misogyny speech. You are making a difference, thank you ❤
Your tears are powerful Jordan, they’re proof of your passion. I have so much respect for you, because as a woman I think we all feel the same way at the moment. For myself I’ve felt so hopeless recently when it comes to misogyny especially online. I’m a teacher and these things are trickling down to my children who are AT MOST 4 years old. The problem is so severe, globally, but it feels nothing has ever been done or is being done. I’m scared now, for the children i teach, for myself, for all the women in my life. You’re right Jordan. We owe our children better, we owe our girls better.
Another day another slay for the Jordan Theresa podcast
i cried with you. it really feels like talking to a bestie. Absolute fav so far x
Feminism is a movement I am so passionate about and I'm glad you talked about it in this podcast Jordan!
Your talking about all these things is so meaningful to me. I feel like everyone around me is so desensitized to everything that's going on and won't spend the time talking about them for fear of ruining the mood or just repeating another shitty thing that's happening, but the amount of care and feeling that you share means so much to me. thank you Jordan x
you were so so real and right for that section on misogyny. thank you!!
First, I wanna say that you have ABSOLUTELY cultivated the space you believe your podcast to be and not only am I grateful to have it (I LOVE listening while I'm driving like I'm having a convo or a cute catch-up with a friend) but I am grateful that it is safe enough to discuss these topics. I felt really sad when you were getting choked up at 28:51 because it reminded me of the book I read over the weekend (Wordslut! Recommend HIGHLY I wanna hear your opinion) where in the chapter about catcalling Gordon-Smith said "Can I tell you why I found this stuff really depressing? I feel like I’ve been walking around for days now, believing that people want to be nice, and believing that it comes from a good place, and believing that guys are just trying to have fun and complement people. But it’s real, real hard for me to keep believing that when I tell people how angry it makes us, I tell people how sad it makes us, I tell people about sexual violence, statistics, and the reaction isn’t, 'That matters to me, and I’m going to stop.' the reaction is, 'That doesn’t matter to me.'" The book asserts that "the underlying problem with all of these forms of sexual trespassing is that they rely on the assumption that a man has an automatic right to a woman’s body. It’s a display of social control, signaling to women that they are intruders in a world, owned by men, and thus have no right privacy... But when he says this stuff, he's really just playing dumb. Because research shows that when sexual harassers are asked to switch places with their targets, they are able to grasp quite quickly, that what they’ve done is wrong. It’s not that their intentions have been misunderstood - these dudes realize the harm they’ve caused. It’s simply that they aren’t motivated to care. They lack empathy." Like it is so ridiculous how transparent men are about their misdeeds and they could not care less!! I think Jordan Adika and Jarvis Johnson were saying something about how the guy like Ben Shapiro really had to present their misogyny as "facts" like they had to JUSTIFY it but Andrew Tate gets on God's internet and sits there and lies and people eat it up. Like people don't need a basis for this stuff anymore they GENUINELY just want to hear it. I think it also has to do with the huge wave of anti-intellectualism in the West recently, too. It's heartbreaking and I'm glad we're talking about it because it can't go without pushback.
Update upon finishing: I cried with you. I'm so sorry you feel like you have to apologize for your tears because not enough people consider emotions in this-it is SO refereshing to see someone cry about misogyny because I do all! the! time! You weren't incoherent or anything you were passionate because it IS serious and it needs to be said by literally anybody oh my goodness I understand your hopelessness. I just think there's no empathy in this world like I don't see these women as numbers in news articles they are people that should still be with us and don't deserve to live with the trauma of surviving radicalized men. I've never even HEARD anybody call this phenomenon terrorism before but you are so right and it is so crushing to have only now come to this conclusion because islamophobia has made it impossible to see that violence is violence and directed hate needs to be called what it is. People act like femcide only exists in Mexico or some "oppressed" nation whatever the hell that's meant to mean but it is literally at our doorstep. I am so scared every day it is like holding my breath for an eternity. I have a little sister and all I wanna do is protect her. Gender based violence is the scariest thing in the world and it is so EXHAUSTING to go from being called a bitch and having to swallow that to dying to male hatred for us and not even having the luxury of holding their contempt accountable. I really do appreciate you using your voice-it doesn't always SEEM like a lot but it matters. To people like me, it really matters.
im so glad you spoke about the rusell brand situation. im from mexico & misogyny has over time also been a topic i have become very passionate about. if you want to feel infurated, read a bit about ciudad Juárez. i grew up with that city in the news daily. unfortunately, i've had to stop watching the news because that types of news is no longer just a thing that happens in Juárez. i mean, it never has, but it's brutal how much feminicide has expanded country-wide & i think it part it was because no one, no politian, wanted to help Juárez, so if the cartels could get away with terrorizing women there, anyone could do it anywhere. it's insane how bad its gotten. my dad is a lawyer, so he hears a lot of things through the grapevines. i distinctly remember how mid-pandemic he sat me & my sister down to tell us we could non longer come home alone at night from work because fellow lawyers & cops that nlknownhe has daughters told him our city was so dangerous for women in that moment that he shouldn't be leaving us alone. we both are grown women, we were too, when my dad told us. a year later my sister told me i should be avoiding the uptown area because there was a serial killer killing women with my general description. in the ladt presidential elections, the only female candidate had to back down two weeks prior to elections, she never gave an explanation but everyone knew it was that she was getting death-threats by the cartels. it might not even seem related, but i think that if even as a presidential candidate with a significate following, your party that has also had previous candidates that have also gotten death threats, even they cant keep you safe -- then what woman in the country is?? who is safe? and even if you die, 0% of homicides get resolved in mexico...feminicide is barely a crime as is. your family will have to fight through teeth and nail to get it recognized as a femicide even if your killer leaves threats at your door. how can anyone deny yhat misogyny is well and alive today?
also, don't feel bad for getting emotional over the subject. it's such fucking dire situation everywhere we go, it's worth getting emotional over it. these are our lives, we live in so much fear and a lot of people refuse to acknowledge it.
the eyebrow piercing is a slay !!!
thank you so much for this episode Jordan. I've been feeling so hopeless recently in terms of how widespread and accepted misogyny is. it feels like a fact of life that we will always have to contend and put up with... I recently deleted insta just because the absolute STATE of reels comments was so disturbing to me. I'm so tired of seeing women torn to shreds just for existing; it haunts me always. it informs my internal dialogue in a way I hate more than anything.
our girls are growing up like this, seeing these comments every day. their male peers are being radicalised by porn and "wellness" influencers into thinking violence against women is sexy, morally correct, natural... men truly hate us and it's fucking scary. seeing you cry over this and articulate everything I can't was so sad but also so validating. I often feel like I'm alone in this, that it's unreasonable how disturbed I am by misogyny in my daily life. thank you for reminding me that there are strong women beside me taking this seriously too.
you are so intelligent, articulate and strong. love you heaps girly
Really great episode.
I have a thought on the agony aunt part. I do agree that confronting the friend and try to solve some issues could be smart, but I think it's clear that the friend needs some therapy. Not meant in a mean or bad way, we all need some therapy
Girl im crying with you don’t apologise. We always have to talk and listen about these horrible things with such a straight face and is so refreshing to hear someone talk about these issues in the way i also feel about it 💔
I appreciate you so much thank you xx
I normally never comment but I just had to say that your speech and seeing your tears made me feel validated in my emotions and fears surrounding the topic. It’s so easy to feel like you’re alone in this battle, like you’re the only one trying to make a change, but everytime I watch you videos and especially this one, I get reminded that others are in this with me and that they feel the hurt of the world as deeply as I do. So thank you Theresa, you are making a difference🫶
As a man, I recoil reading the numerous tweets standing up for Russell brand and also Laurence Fox for what he said to Ava Evans. How is it that we live in this age and misogyny is still rampant?.
As a trans man I really empathise with women and the struggle with misogyny. It hit me hard when you said it feels like it’s so ingrained that nothing can be done. I too feel tired , with transphobia and every other form of hate. Like you said it’s all interlinked. I will always be a feminist! Stay strong gals and femmes i stand with you 💪💜
jordan, i speak for everyone here when i say that your vulnerability and anger made this one of my favourite episodes yet. you and your content are so important and i appreciate this corner of the internet you’ve created so much. ❤❤❤
thank you for speaking about misogyny! at first i was a little taken aback when you got upset but it is so necessary and valid and women are so often shamed for being deeply passionate to the point of tears about important subjects. i cried with you and i share all the frustration of how fucking depressing it all is. i cant believe that not even the murder of an innocent teenage girl on the street makes people wake up to the problem of misogyny. it’s truly sick
This episode hit me so hard. Swimming in the dark is such a fantastic and emotional book. And your discussions about misogyny was so powerful.
Started listening to this in the podcast but had to come here and say THANK YOU for being so real and crying, I am crying with you. Too many people list off stats or tell women's stories with no emotion, almost to the point that people end up getting completely desensitised to it. As women sometimes I feel like we aren't even allowed to be upset about these things anymore as well but it is all SO fucking upsetting!! Everything you said in this video was so important and you are absolutely making a difference. Thank you xxx
please don’t apologize for sharing your grief. i don’t really have the words to express my gratitude for your segment on misogyny. i feel like the threat of violence is always present for women in our society, and any time i’ve tried to explain that experience to a man i end up feeling crazy and misunderstood. and it’s hard to talk about lightly online because so much online feminist discourse has been taken over by terfs and i don’t want to get mixed up in that nonsense. the result is a lot of quiet fear, which has brought me to tears before and will again. xx
loved this episode Jordan!! eyebrow piercing is such a SLAY!! xx
Thanks for this Jordan, really ❤️ A few years ago I was a lot more occupied with the omnipresence of misogyny and patriarchy, but it made me feel so heavy, and angry and hopeless and 'glossed over'. I think I welcomed the focus shift on intersectionality, because as a white/neurotypical/cishet/etc woman, it all felt a bit less personal and it was easier to detach from (despite loving and being surrounded with people of different marginalized groups).
This episode took me back to when I lived with 2 fellow radical feminist friends, which was the most comforting experience of my life. I love how your podcast is like girlie time for me but we all know that at any time any convo with the girlies can take a dive into sharing frustrations about womanhood in a capitalist patriarchy. Seeing and hearing you talk about it here reminded me that it's important to keep allowing in the gravity of it all, despite the normalization and desensitization. To keep bringing it up, and to find sisterhood while doing it. We cannot fix it on the spot but we can comfort each other, like you did for me today. I feel seen, understood, not alone.
Thank you for talking about this Jordan, it does fucking hurt and I cried with you. I get why you want to keep Voicenotes as a safe space, but it's so important important we keep this conversation alive and don't allow misogyny and all the crimes it spurns to go unchecked. You're amazing ❤
I can’t tell you how much relief it gave me to hear you speak so candidly and emotionally about how the current misogynistic discourse is affecting you. I think about this every day, and sometimes it gets so upsetting and overwhelming. No one seems to talk about how emotional it really is. I think we all try to use humor to get by, but it can feel so isolating if no one is acknowledging how sad it is and how much it affects our daily thoughts as women.
❤️❤️❤️❤️ cried right along with u on the train. thank u and take care of urself
Please don’t apologise for your tears and your hurt. I’ve never felt so seen than watching this video. This is something I cry alone in my room about all the time. Thank you for this video thank you for your emotion. Sometimes I feel crazy with how much the misogyny hurts me and how scared I feel and seeing someone share this pain makes me feel less like I’m screaming into a void.
really appreciate you daring to bare your heart like this online and giving voice to you and many of our anger against the violence of misogyny. your voiced hurt and anger is nothing to apologise for and is so powerful. although it feels like we are so powerless i hope you know you are genuinely making a difference in the online space you hold. even just speaking about it give myself and im sure others the ability to speak about it in our spheres as well. sending love to yourself Jordan and especially other women right now
I LOVED swimming in the dark so much! it was so breathtakingly beautiful, you have no idea how excited it made me to hear you mention it :)
this episode had me sobbing i had to pause and collect myself for a solid few minutes. thank you for talking about this and being emotional and real and raw. it’s nonsensical and it’s like everyone’s eyes are glazed over when it’s HAPPENING. i’m 20 years old and i have never met another woman who hasn’t been a victim of sexual harassment of some sort. what does that say?
You've made me cry. This is so true. I feel all of this just as much.
Thank you so so much for this episode 💔 it’s hard to talk about the grief we have for ourselves and other women that comes with experiencing misogyny. It makes me feel validated and less alone reading these comments and seeing your own grief. Ty queen 👑
I never comment but I just want to say thank you so much for speaking about this..I'm crying with you
love the eyebrow piercing, you should do the other side too ! have a lil symmetrical slay
the piercing!! u look so good omg
I cried with you girl 💔 and you’re outfit is super cute. Thank you for the book recommendation too !
thank you for being vulnerable and informed about these topics your insight is so appreciated and you weren’t incoherent at all
What really annoys me is that these men will claim what they go for younger women because they're at "peak fertility" even though they have no intention of settling down and starting a family. And would most likely leave a woman if she gets pregnant.
Yessss please post on xmas day ❤
I'm a mom to a 4-year-old girl in the US, and I'm so cared. Hearing the stories of r^pe victims (and there are sooooo many that I just come by) has put me off of sex quite a bit. There's something about misogyny that doesn't actually care about little boys and destroys them too. We all hear how often they're r^ped too.
I love you for talking about this
thank you for taking the time to bring light to these topics, thank you for saying what needs to be said
Hey Jordan, just thought I'd provide a bit of info for you about XL bullies and pit breeds.
There's a hot hot hot debate about this topic. For me and the research I've read, I'm of the belief that these dogs were bred and historically selected to be aggressive and have "gameness" which is essentially a behavioural tendency to bite and not let go, withstand a lot of pain etc. These things make them incredibly dangerous when they do decide to attack, and like you said - unsavoury folks are really attracted to these dogs because of their reputation and thus the cycle continues. Some of the maulings these dogs have been responsible for are just abhorrent to say the least, it's utterly terrifying what they can do. Despite the "it's not the dog, it's the owner" thing, I still think the damage these dogs do outweighs this argument. Plus, dog breeds ARE genetically different from one another and do have distinct behavioural tendencies because of their selective breeding. It's not doggy racism essentially - it's based in actual fact (unlike people who have not been selectively bred by anyone lol)
And they don't put them down! I believe the ban is just limiting adoption, enforcing mandatory desexing and muzzles. Eventually this *should* mean that the breed dies out, but pitbulls have been banned in many countries and that pften just results in the birth of a new, very similar breed with a different name - which is how the XL bully came about if I'm not mistaken!
Oh and! Ultimately I think it's a good thing for these dogs. They're often left in no-kill shelters for their entire lives because of their reputation, and despite how dangerous they are, it's sad to see any animal live a life like that. If the ban results in less maulings and less dogs being kept in shelters for their whole lives then I'm all for it
Love you and all that you do so much ❤
Listening while doing my makeup, big mistake.
I really appreciate u being raw and vulnerable this episode i loved seeing this side if u even tho the topics are really hard to talk about.
Incredible episode. Your pride in your podcast is justified!!!
Your vulnerability and display of care and distress in this is so valuable.
1:02:45 I nearly spat out my drink, your comedic timing was perfect lol
thank u for talking abt misogyny in the manner that you did, being a woman is terrifying. sometimes i get so so so angry that my blood could boil, thinking about the fear that women have to feel when walking alone/at night and how Normal it is. the manosphere & its ethos are dangerous- the media and many creators, imo, treat it solely as a meme & something to cringe at. thanks for talking abt this w the gravity it deserves, because it’s legitimately fucked how okay this all is
You’re glowing and radiant and edgy all in one (even with all the insecurities), lovely gem you are!
If Jordan uploads a podcast episode with Mina Le, I think I might die lol
As somebody who has never paid attention to Russell Brand even when he was quite famous, I was so confused about where all of this support for him came from???
Like even IF he was out here exposing "truths" about the media and government, does that just make ok for him to r*p* and abuse women and girls???
Like when people were trying to defend Cosby and R Kelly, you can acknowledge that the Cosby show was great representation for black americans on tv, or that R Kelly wrote good songs, and ALSO acknowledge that they deserve to face legal recourse for their crimes🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️. It really shouldn't be this hard to understand that.
thank you so much for talking about this jordan 💓
watching this episode, genuinely changed my brain chemistry, hearing Jordan cry about OUR girls, as a 16 year old made me cry with her. While I was watching I was doing my make up to go to college, probably the same thing Elianne did the same morning that she was killed, her case alone already upset me, but hearing Jordan, speak about how violence is an escalating pattern and things like murder and violence are pretty much inevitable for men with deteriorated views, at least for the time being, made me feel so empty on the way to my bus stop, i worry for the future of women, i love u jordan u are the big sister of youtube🩷
Hi Jordan hope you’re doing well ❤
Thank you Jordan for speaking up❤
wonderful episode! you speak your truth so well, you’re truly an inspiration to me. love you so much! x
Great episode as always! Thank you for the book recommendation, I've just ordered one for myself, and hope to get my mom (mother or 2 teen boys) to read it too
we love you jordan
You don't need to apologise for being emotional, you were crystal clear during that segment.
I’m obsessed with Bama rush!! The HBO doc sucked because the woman made it all about her putting on a wig?! But a lot of people hate septum piercings I love mine and was shocked to find that out but I don’t care I had to have it re done at one point and I was so scared the second time because I knew what to expect but I really didn’t feel right without it 😂
I love your podcast! It's so nice to hear a young woman speak honestly!
Thank you for this! It is so scary, so sad, so upsetting. Thank you ❤❤❤
I cried with you. Thank you for creating this space.
I'm a legal support navigator (i support survivors through police reporting and court) at a sexual violence center in Canada.... Misogynistic ideals like that, that women owe men sex is also rampant here in Canada, I find that one of the best ways to combat that radicalization, from my perspective, is to go in high schools and middle schools and talk about consent and healthy relationships. It's already in the curriculum (in my province), but I still get calls from teachers asking me to come to schools for my presentations and make sure that young boys realize that consent is a TWO--WAY street, and that they are not owed sex from men simply because they're "in the mood". I just honestly think it should really be taught in schools overall.
There are unfortunately societal complexities as well... You can only teach them so much in schools, but if they see or hear differently at home or on social media, it's not as impactful... I wish I knew the answer, but it's clearly not a one-person solution. Gender-based violence needs to be fought/tackled as a huge collective effort. I hope I'm making sense. I also teared up, because I often don't allow myself to think of the societal scale of gender-based violence, or else I wouldn't be able to do my job. Don't apologize for tears, this is becoming such a serious and scary issue worldwide and reading through these comments and hearing your words makes me feel so much less alone, that there are so many other people who want to see change in this regard ❤
I feel so silly, but as an American corporate girlie, I heard “Excel Bullies” and I was like “omg is Microsoft pulling their licenses or something” 😅 I’ve always wanted a pit, but most apartments (at least in my area) have banned pits and you can’t even get pet insurance sometimes 😢
I’m crying with you❤ Love from California
loved this video sm queen. I have a friend similar to the agony aunt email who blames everything on boys behaviours and I don't humour it anymore like I straight up tell her to consider it from the other person's side and not jump to conclusions and self sabotage. this friend doesn't value emailer's opinion, she just wants to be in an echo chamber and feel affirmed in her dramatic thought processes
You spoke so eloquently even I teared up. I wish everyone would read Men Who Hate Women by Laura Bates, it's such an important book
i loved this episode i am so glad there is this community for women here x
i’m over here crying with u. they truly don’t see us as human beings
Dude I feel you about the misogyny. I fear for my boys so much that I rarely let them hang out with other boys, it’s sad that I can’t just let my kids be kids because I can’t trust that they won’t be radicalized and all my hard work teaching them the right things will just go down the drain. It’s terrifying being a parent. I hate being a helicopter mom, but my worst fear is them hurting someone because of misogynistic peer pressure.
i'm late but sooo happy i'm watching this now
i cried with you pet
I loved your passion in this you are amazing
I'd appreciate a Xmas episode.
Its nice that u talk about women and our issues❤
thank you jordan
I was literally crying along with you during this podcast. Being a woman is so exhausting. I just want to feel safe
thank you so much for talking about this. i wish i could hug you. it's so unbelievably frustrating being a woman today
My septum piercing didn't hurt that much ? I'm sorry yours wasn't a great experience 💕
I just finished watching, as a 18yr old gay boy, this disgust me. Recently in the train, ( Paris ) a girl made a whole vidéo about someone actually c*mming on her and she went to alert a woman who said “it is what it is”. I don’t know what is worse between the man or the woman who should know what It feels like. Anyway, love you Jordan !
42:50 exactly this
my heart hurts too girl
Try not to cry when Jordan cries
i appreciate the way you talk about feminism, we need more people like you. ❤
Omg ?? New York ?? Praying one of the people is Mina 🙏😭
I loved the episode and I know a lot about dogs so ill Share my thoughts. From my research the UK government is planning on putting down all XL bullies which is just an attack on animal rights but I do agree that there should be restrictions on adoption and purchase of XL bullies. The owners of the dogs responsible for the attacks are usually people who find it fun to have a dog that is violent so they train them to be reactive or they are people who adopt or buy a reactive dog with no idea how to train them. I have a reactive dog and my dog has never attacked anyone cause me and my family train him and take percausions when we walk him outside and thats how it should be. I believe that banning and killing a bunch of dogs is cruel and not teaching anything to people about pet ownership responsability. Poodles for example are a dog Breed thats pretty reactive historically but people dont associate them with that nor do they train them to be reactive cause they dont look scary but psicologically they are in fact more prone to be violent. I dont know much about XL bullie psychology but they are a scary looking dog and there are people (usually men) who like to have scary looking dogs and train them to be agressive. I live in Portugal and dog fights are a thing and I see a lot of rescue pitbulls who came from dog fights and they are the loveliest dogs when u interact with them but they were trained to be reactive by nasty people who have fun seeing dogs fight. My own reactive dog is part pitbull and people are afraid of him and tell me to Kill him (yeah random people in the street told me to Kill my dog) just by looking at him when he is One of the sweets dogs ive ever rescued. I think this new law stems from misinformation and people not taking animal rights seriously but thats just what I think. Ive seen a lot of rescue cases cause i volunteer and usually a dog only Turns violent based on their surroundings and training. I hope this helps you get informed and Im sorry if theres any errors, English is not my first language
i'm happy the bullies are getting banned, a lot of them are heavily bred to the point where it is painful for them just to be alive some of them are extremely inbred. they aren't getting kulled, just a ban on people breeding them/bringing them into the country and heavy restrictions on the people who own those dogs.
Wrt xl bully banning, they’re responsible for 70% of fatalities related to dogs since 2021 and they’re just asking them to be spay/neutered and insured i think
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cried with you 💓 this shit is terrifying and our fathers/brothers/boyfriends don't even care
please don’t apologise for being so emotional about this. I cried the whole way through with you. I am already in complete agreement with all of your points but I think you put everything across so succinctly and eloquently and without prejudice and I honestly just think we’re fucking done with separating facts from feelings because it clearly hasn’t fucking worked so far.
Can you put timestamps on please?
not only me treating love & pies like a full time job then hahaha
Not too sure why this came up in my recommends, but I can confirm that septum piercings are pretty much just normal now. I just started an art course at my local college and like half of all the girls younger than 30 seem to have one. I'm an old fart, so for me it's quite strange, especially when I think back to 1995 when Firestarter came out and how shocked people were by Keith Flint with his septum and tongue piercings.
I suppose now it's face tattoos are the edgy thing, and that will become normal soon too probably haha.
Best of luck with everything Jordan!
babyyyyyyyyy 💜
I love when "Hel-llllooooo everybody!" comes into my ears when I put this podcast on