Ham Vs GMRS Vs CB Vs MURS Vs FRS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ค. 2024
- I was asked an important question, that I was surprised I never made a stand alone video to answer. What is the difference between Ham Radio, GMRS, FRS, MURS, and CB? Can learning their differences help you determine which service is for you? Spoiler, it's always best to use them ALL!
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00:00 - Intro
01:04 - Why Do We A Need Radio License?
03:19 - GMRS
06:34 - FRS
08:26 - MURS
09:52 - Radio Service Use In Businesses
10:49 - CB Radio
11:49 - Most Services Are SImilar!
12:18 - Fines for Modified Radios?
13:27 - How is Amateur Radio Different? - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
As an unlicensed H.A.M. radio operator for over 40 years I approve this message. You have to listen to what I say because I started my comment with how many years i've been unlicensed.
Josh's videos confuckulate me less than some of your boofwang videos.
Don’t you mean U.N.L.I.C.E.N.S.E.D H.A.M. ?
How long did it take to become unlicensed? Is there a steep unlearning curve?
@@SimonBlandford maybe you have to take a multiple choice test where all the answers are wrong
Lmfao Randy 😂 @TheNotaRubicon
To all my Hams. Please tell me you studied so freaking hard, took your drivers license test, driving test, twice, passed, got your license bought a cheap Pontiac fiero aaaaaaaand.... drove that thing the exact speed limit and abided absolutely all traffic signs and signals.... anyone?
This was funny
Happy Ham here. I enjoy all radio services equally. Each have thier place. GMRS for around the farm and outdoors with the family. Murs for the jobsite, CB for the highways. Amateur HF for round the world contacts. VHF/UHF repeaters for emergency comms when no cell service in the wildlife areas while hunting.
I have my GMRS license and I have my Ham license. I also have a CB radio. Each service has its own place and application. I use what is appropriate for what I am doing.
There you go!
Robertwood657 has the best answer....there you go...👍
I remember years ago my cousin talked to Jamaica(not Queens) with his Ranger radio and a pair of marine antennas on his van. We were sitting in Harlem talking on skip from the cloud coverage that night.
Hi , from Malaysia here. Recently I took amature radio exam here and I passed. Even so, I couldnt explain the different between GMRS/FRS/CB and amature frequency. Thanks for your vids
Finally someone who isn’t necessarily all about vhf/uhf ham radio frequencies. I’ve preached hf for years.
Nice explanation Josh. One point I would like to mention is the FCC eliminated the 250 kilometer rule in 2017 (the same document that restructured GMRS/FRS, FCC 17-57 I believe) and skywave is now permitted on CB. I think of sideband CB as the gateway to a tech license and 10 meters (was for me), and GMRS the gateway to 2 meters and 70 CM.
I’m on a mission to learn about this. You have explained this quite well.
Thank you.
Grear video Josh! A relative of mine just passed their Tech exam a couple of days ago and had probably have questions about which radio service to use. I just sent them your video!
A thorough and well organized introduction to all these services. Great job!
About the best explanation of the different 'services' AND frequency allocation/licensing I have ever encountered. AND... no snarkiness ! Well done.
Excellent simple breakdown explanation. This would of helped me a lot when I got into Ham Radio. Thank you.
Excellent video Josh! Cant explain it any better. I just learned that I don’t have to apply for another GMRS license for my wife in case she needs to use a radio to talk to me one day. Thanks!
Great discussion. And actually a great video to share to folks that I speak to regarding what they would like to do with radio if anything at all….
I’ve become a radio hobbyist over the last couple of years, thanks in part to a colleague of mine at work (we’re computer parts salespersons), and this is a nice concise definition between the radio services.
I’ve been using my own radio to listen and learn about this stuff (absolutely NO transmission, I remain silent), and it’s neat how these things work.
I’m studying more about HAM radios and find this all to be really interesting and helpful. Thank you for this!
Glad you are taking the time to define the acronyms, it is rather taxing to get into this hobby with the sure volume of them to juggle.
I'm the worst kind of operator: No Code, Appliance Operator Extra. I can hear the blood pressure monitors going off at the Sad Ham shacks.😂
I'm a no code general! We may not build our own radios but we do constantly tinker with antennas.
Whoa, we got a badass over here.
I don't even know what you guys are talking about. Maybe microwave ovens. 🤔
@WR3ND Hams that buy their radios rather than build their own from parts are derided by some and called appliance operators. Personally, I build antennas but won't tackle radios.
Oh. I see. Thanks. I was thinking food in the microwave oven was the "antenna." And using the programming "code" to set the time and power levels.😅 Cheers.
very good Josh. Thank you for supporting all of radio. video's like this help answer the question WHICH RADIO DO I GET ? knowing what is out their and the difference gives needed information to make a better discission on what to get. their is more out their as well. like the 49 MHz band. no new radios in years . Radio shack had 49 MHz walkie talkers .I have one. 73's
Great overview, just added a CB to my HAM station. GRMS is next.
TV shop I worked for got into the Directv dish install business when they first came out. Nobody made a signal strength meter so we had to rely on the on screen meter... shouting out a window got old so we got licensed and got a pair of the red dot radios... since we traveled over a wide region(100 mile radius!) we ran into other users, some who thought they owned the frequency(gee that sounds familiar...) and would try jamming us. Wouldn't work since we were 100 feet apart at most and using 5 watt radios. More than once we had to explain that the color dot frequencies are open to ALL licensed businesses to use for handhelds...
That would piss me off so much
Wow. Great information from a point I can actually understand. Freaking awesome. I'm studying for my license now.
Josh, nice explanation of the various services. One of the reasons I’ve been fascinated with amateur radio all these years is the multiple modes available to us that aren’t available to other services. AM, FM, SSB, CW, APRS, Packet, plus the many and yet to be digital modes. I’ve spent many years in the hobby and still haven’t tried them all. We have satellites, EME, meteor scatter, all sorts of VHF, UHF, SHF specialties.There’s literally something for anyone willing to take the time to learn.
You seem very knowledgeable in this realm of radios:communication. I am not but it is something that has been weighing on me the last few years. Through in some significant health changes that has taken place for my wife and son and I am very eager to learn.
I am unlicensed but would like to be certified to use HAM radios. In the meantime, being able to use GMRS for my family sounds like a good plan.
Not afraid to spend some $$$ to make sure I have high quality handheld GMRS radios, could you recommend a make a model I purchase? I’d like something made of good material, offers the most power output and range.
Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated!
@@Briathos1CBs also have hand held radios and can span at least a mile with the 4 or 5 watts allowed. The mobile and station radios can extend that range significantly, especially on sideband, which is also authorized. CBs stopped registering radios in the early 2000s. Most use a handle and some use first names: your choice. CBs are affordable and there is an emergency calling channel and that is channel 9. You can squelch the static out and only the loudest stations will break that squelch but a lot of people will listen for calls with the squelch open. I have held an Advanced Amateur license but have let it lapse and still have ham radios if I wish to renew. Although my old call letters have lapsed they are still registered to me. I built my own antennas for both ham and CB and have talked to Europe from the Midwest on ham and over 450 miles direct with only 4 watts out of the finals on CB (and it was legal). Both radios had personally designed antennas attached to them. You are not kept from using high gain antennas on CB so long as there is no amplifier between the radio and antenna. Power is only measured coming out of the finals of the radio on a CB and not out of the antenna.
Nice clear explanation, thanks!
Great video! You could add to this list the FCC comments on "Marine VHF Radio" in the 150 MHz range
I chose to not get a ham license because the sad ones at the front door that unfortunately represent their community.. I am a licensed GMRS user instead because of the community.. they are more like family and brothers than the hams I listened to.. and have been monitoring for years on both. Recently I have decided to study for my ham license.. your video just told me why I need my ham license also.. I have other hobbies that involve rf that brought me to radio in the first place. The end of this video was my light bulb moment, and your not a sad ham.. I enjoy your videos, thank you. 73s
Well thank you. Truly, most hams are not sad hams.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse I think it would be nice to see more hams calling the bad apples out.. If your in some GMRS facebook groups like here in Wa, you would see how crazy it is from both sides.. where hams are belittling GMRS users.. because we couldnt get all of our family a ham license for our family trip or other family use, we must be too stupid to take the test and assume were not capable of knwowing otherwise.. and its places like that that I call the front door in which people represent the community for many new or inquiring people.. it would be great to hear more respectable and respectful people speak out about it. I havnt seen all your videos.. they end up in my searches but you seem like a real legit decent guy.. and I think others feel the same way and would probably take what you have to say to heart over most others that represent a community.
@@ericmoore86 My preference is to just ignore them. Starting a fight seldom yields the results you're looking for.
If you find a jerk, ignore the jerk and stick with people that are not jerks.
I like this music. it feels calm enough to pay attention.
Great video and explanations @Ham Radio Crash Course
I just love radio so yes I have a ham license, gmrs license and a CB radio. Thinking about getting a Murs! I agree with the comments that many are making they all have their place in different roles. I love hopping on the 2-meter and seeing if I can get a ham work in the VHF and UHF and or the gmrs repeaters. I've got my first high frequency coming so I'm excited to jump on at 10 and 20 m when I get that set up and I often just have a CB on in the background when I'm working because I just like to hear everybody talking to each other and pick up the skip
Thanks Josh.....this is a great info!
Dude this video was MEGA demystifying! thanks man
Glad it helped!
With MURS, I've heard someone say they take a radio to their local walmart and listen for what channel they use. Then at random days/times when they are in the area they get on and say something like "Adam, someone took a dump in aisle 6" and will often get a response like "Again?!" Wow.
Haha. That is a perk for MURS I guess.
The "Again!?" Killed me 😂
I've done that too bit at expensive hotels lol
CB radio was so fun in the 90's!!!! Started to get my ham license back then but life happened. Started studying for my Technician license a few days ago. I'd love to have the General license.
Thank you Josh
As always, nice work!
Very understandable compared to other videos on this topic.
Great video again Josh. So going to share this
Thank you.
Thanks for your insight my friend,…. I watch all your videos
It gave me a chuckle to see Randy's image on the thumbnail.
Got my Novice in 1961, then Technician - then it expired. Decades later I got back in and attained my General which I still have but haven't been active. Need to learn what's changed in thirty years :) Still narrow band FM on uhf/vhf? Still am and ssb on low bands? What is digital mode?
Hey Josh I am looking for radios to use to talk to family members during an emergency or if something goes down. Looking for hand held but want long range as well. What do you recommend
Well done.
very good contents, thanks a lot for sharing
What a great video that has great info on these different services. New subscriber here and future HAM.
Welcome aboard!
The FCC gives most frequencies to those who can make money with them, and swing power. Those of us in pro audio have been feeling the squeeze for wireless gear for years. We don't swing big power.
The more videos I watch the more confused I get, but this video was pretty helpful
Outstanding
Great job on this video. I especially like how you covered the facts without bias. I grow tired of amateur operators always putting down CB or GMRS so they can feel superior somehow. It's all radio, and some sad ham's liddish putdowns doesn't dictate what radio services I enjoy.
I’m not active user on all the services mentioned, but I have been in the past. They’re mainly all tools. Ham radio goes deeper into hobby and lifestyle, but you don’t have to shun the others to partake in one from my pov. 👍
hey Josh, I’m new to all of this and I have a question if I get GMRS licensed, can I use GMRS frequencies on a ham radio?
Great discussion as Zebulon has stated below, Thanks and take care. 73 Vic de KE8JWE.
Cool vid. Thank you.
Great video!
Very good info and well explained Josh.
I am glad that atleast you are Randy's only real H.A.M. friend.😊👍
Great coverage as always! What I am getting out of this is, each of these services have its value, Amateur Radio is the best! haha! As it definitely is!
Glad you enjoy it!
@HamRadioCrashCourse I love the appliance reference. Classic. Any reason why you did not mention an 11 meter reference to CB frequencies and are they HF, UHF, VHF, SHF, etc? You covered UHF and VHF well with the other appliances. Keep the up the great teaching. 👍
3.0 Mhz-30 Mhz is considered "HF", Therefore CB is HF. and CB is in the 11 Meter band.
@@jamesslick4790 Careful. Not a Rubicon might start calling you names.
LOL I'm a subscriber to his channel. I am not "S o m e P e o p l e"... I love ALL manner of radio! LOL@@jhutch1470
Thanks!
No problem!
Like many, I am getting into all things radio, including satellite phones. I found your channel through Mike Golvers FCS, and you are why I am pushing forward due to all your resources. I was hoping for a brief touch on the SSB side of CB; I am still a bit confused about whether CB radios, regardless of SSB or traditional, can communicate with each other. If you have a video discussing CB SSB, can you link it and, if not, possibly do a video on the benefits of the higher wattage side of SSB or the negative side of SSB vs. traditional CB radios. Thank you for all your information and help; I will be subscribing to your paid platform(s) to help support the support I receive.
SSB has the potential for greater range. As to talking to other SSB radios, Easy: Both your radio and the one you want to communicate with need to be: 1, on the same channel. 2, be on the same sideband (upper or lower). The only downside is that many (most?) CB radios don't have SSB. However all CBs can be used conventionally. If buying a CB radio (or radios), It's best to get one with SSB and have the best of both worlds.
Thank you! It’s actually an easy answer “traditional” CB is just AM, amplitude modulation. SSB is just more efficient than AM, so you can transmit further.
Regarding amplified CB. It’s not my expertise. I don’t try and run outside the fcc rules. As such, I stick to ham radio where I can run 1500 watts without any issue in most cases.
CB radios usually transmit a signal in Amplitude Modulation (AM). An AM signal sends the center carrier, and two side band carriers, an upper and a lower. A CB radio that can do SSB mode, single side band, only sends out one of the sidebands of the AM signal. The sideband signal can travel farther, and poke through interference more easily.
Frequencies below 27.185 MHz uses lower side band, and frequencies above 27.185 MHz use the upper sideband.
I hope that helps a little.
Excellent summary, thanks, but US-centric. Although it would not make sense to cover each and every country, it would be nice to learn more on how things are elsewhere for the two biggest contenders: ham and CB radio 😉
I have had my ham license (Advanced Class) altho now expired. As a truck driver (now retired) I had both ham and CB on the truck. With ham I could talk to NY and to Hawaii in my truck, talking to fellow truck drivers. With CB the range was about 1 to 2 miles and slightly farther on sideband. Some of us drivers used sideband and could talk for 5 to 10 miles at times. I designed my own antennas for use at the house and could talk to Europe on ham and 450 miles on a legally powered CB. My ham radios cost me collectively (5 of them) over $3,000 and my cb cost was either $50 or $150 each. So choose wisely or go ahead and test out for Ham radio. I first tested in Ham radio when you had to pass Morse code, and I finally got up to 13 wpm sending and receiving to get my Advanced Class. There is no code or Advance Class anymore but General Class license will let you talk to the world: just study for it.
What if I want to have radios for semi long range in a city or forested area, what king of license would I need to get?
What about ism band such as motorola dtr700
and itinerant business frequencies
GMRS is very much like 2 meter or 70 cm in as much as the antennas are short, modulation is FM so it is quieter, and it is not as widely used as CB. GMRS has repeaters which, to me, was the amazing thing about 2 meters. Having a very small footprint in power and antenna and be able to talk 10 to 30 miles to someone else running the same small footprint of equipment. As a HAM if you have ever tried to get a family member to learn and take a test to get their HAM license, you have learned that getting them on GMRS is much more likely to happen. :D We, the show, tell our listeners to get GMRS for going off road in their Jeeps. It's just too simple, small, and inexpensive. Talking on the trail, is handy, fun, and could be lifesaving.
I totally agree. My off road club uses GMRS for trail runs. A few of us also have ham radio setups in our vehicles giving the whole group a broader reach if needed for safety purposes. Both serve an important purpose.
@@lateknightucdHAM radio is so much more than GMRS, but that pesky test...
@@Jeeptalkshow the test isn't all that bad to study for, for either Technician or General. Be glad you don't have to learn Morse Code anymore. When I first got my license I passed sending and receiving 13 wpm of code and got my Advanced Class license (1 class higher than General but is no more). If you study for General, you can pass it. The radios are higher priced and I had 5 to 6 of them amounting to over $3500.
5:32 trying to find a gmrs or frs unit that does texting but I'm having trouble sorting through everything, any recommendations?
I have a question about licensing for GMRS that I can’t find an answer for. I work for a traffic control company and we have a flagging division. I’m assuming that the radios we have are FRS but they’re not very good for certain locations or distances so I was thinking about upgrading to GMRS. It says that it extends to family but what about licenses attached to a business which extend to all employees of the business? Do I need to purchase a license for every employee?
I wonder if MURS is the type for motorcycle helmet to motorcycle helmet communications?
Is a baofeng 5r gmrs radio capable of switching between gmrs and ham radio.
Do you have a discord by chance? Or any recommendations for where to talk amateur radios and ask questions?
Link in the description the best ham radio discord in the world.
I had a license back in early 90s and I don’t remember my call sign can this be looked up?
What band do you find that you make the most contacts? I’m GMRS licensed and about to pass the technician exam. I need to decide if I should start out with an antenna for 2 meter or 10 meter. I have a 10,11,12 meter mobile, and I hear conversations (skip) occasionally. It’s going to take a tall antenna with a base station What do you suggest?
On good days ten meters is great. I’ve made the most contacts on 20 meters.
I would say you would make the most contacts on UHF and VHF repeaters in your area first. Ten meters is pretty tricky to make constant contacts, as the band should be open to make solid contacts at a good distance. The ten meter band opens and closes regularly so it's a toss up.
When you were talking about business use on MURS and GMRS, I was thinking about the fact that businesses are no longer allowed to obtain a GMRS license. Does FRS legally allow business use? I ask here because finding anything on the FCC site seems to be a nightmare. The process of getting a GRMS license was way too complicated, and others have said the same.
Glad you mentioned that FRS and GMRS share the same frequencies. I don't think many people realize that. Sometimes I wonder what the FCC was thinking though since the two services share the exact same frequencies with the exception of the repeater inputs for GMRS.
I always think of it as if you want to simply use a radio with no complications, great - buy a blister pack of FRS radios. If you want a little higher power or sophistication, pay the FCC $35 so they can at least know who you are. So it's like Radio Free and Radio Premium (in app purchase). Haha.
I think the band space is right for both booster pack cheap FRS radios and good 5 watt hts. It’s a good service to blend tbh on primary reasons why it exists.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse I remember when there were 14 channel FRS only radios and 22 channel FRS/GMRS combination radios that came with a form to get a GMRS license if you wanted to use channels 15 to 22 because they were GMRS channels. About the only good thing about the current rules for FRS and GMRS sharing the exact same simplex frequencies is that it is great for interoperability if someone has their GMRS license and needs to communicate with someone who only has newer blister pack FRS radios. Still it can cause confusion as to why some users can use the frequencies without a license while others need a license to use them simply because the "walkie-talkies" have a little more power. Plus adding to the confusion is that channels 15 to 22 are also repeater outputs for GMRS. Personally I think the FCC should have added additional frequencies for repeater use only because with the current repeater pairs uneducated users will be confused as to why they can hear someone on their walkie-talkie, but can't talk to them.
Prior to 2017 they didn't share frequencies. GMRS originally had 15 simplex channels and 8 repeater inputs while FRS was originally only 7 narrow band channels sandwiched between the GMRS repeater input channels. The FCC started approving "dual service" radios that included both FRS and GMRS frequencies(less the repeater inputs) some time in the late 90's or early 00's. It was legal to transmit on the low power FRS channels without a license but a GMRS license was required to use the "high power" channels. Almost nobody that bought the radios got the license and they used all the channels.
In 2017, rather than enforce the license requirements and piss off millions of soccer moms that bough "walkie talkies" for their kids, the FCC officially said F&%# it and handed over access to ALL of the GMRS simplex channels to FRS users. Not a soul noticed the difference...
@@CzechSixTv The restaurant bar down the street started using my primary FRS channel. Don't eat the jerk chicken....
I have gmrs murs ham and cb in my home base station with good antennas on a 35ft tower. I live in northwest Missouri, a hilly area so i guess it really depends on where you live unless you get into the extremely low frequencies. I can only get down to 25mhz and up to 950mhz. My town is about 10 miles in diameter and i can talk from my house to my truck and to all of my friends with base and mobile CBs. I cannot do that with any other service. Even the ham guys that have a repeater in town have issues talking to each others mobiles using the repeater thats on our local news tower. I can hit a gmrs repeater that allows me to reach most of the kansas city area into part of Eastern KS. Now i do play around and listen to what i can on all of what i have but for my basic needs AM FM SSB CB at the legal 4 and 12 watts still beats them all. It hurts me to say that but it is what it is. Before anyone gets into any area of radio they need to know whats available that people use in their area and their terrain. Also what they want to spend. Just my $.02
CB is definitely alive and well
@@N2YTA yes it is. And if you don't like the hash n trash on AM use SSB. The FM side is pretty good too.
Can i use and have amateur radio to just listen without any license?
I like DMR radio a lot personally, but it's harder to use that GMRS
So, if I have a Technician license, I would still need a GMRS license to operate GMRS radios? Seems like that would be covered by the Technician license.
Then it's fun to build my own antennas and see how far I can get my radio to go. Just today I was able to use my 10-watt ht with my Homebrew 35 ft PVC Tower as I call it and I picked it up 13 mi away in the next town. Granted I live in a place that's perfect for this is just flat farmland so normally that would be way out of range on the other side of town I can only go about a mile and a half because of the obstructions but still I was pretty impressed I had a little GMRS antenna on top of my truck and my 10 w ht and at home I had a 5 watt that my wife was listening on hooked up to my my tower as I call it when I called in and told my wife where I was she was shocked and to be fair so was I I didn't think it would go that far I use PVC pipe and speaker wire😂
Is it okay if I use gmrs around my private property without a license? I don't think I'll be interfering with something and I would love to pay the 35 dollars but the website doesn't work. So on private property I'm not gonna be bothering anybody or anything right?
Sorry Newbie question. DMR and Ham? If I get registered for DMR can I use it to also TX/RX on GMRS? Do I even need a DMR radio? Wanting to use it for Hiking, Jeeping and to have it in case of a SHTF scenario. Or would I be better going with a ham license and buy a multifunction Radio that could TX/RX on GMRS, or is that even legal if I have a Ham License? UGH...sorry
DMR is a type of radio and mode of operation used in Amateur radio. You don’t need a DMR radio, a traditional analog radio will do fine for you in all the examples you listed above.
Thanks so much!
Josh...good points. I too am a ham radio operator. We have twice weekly nets in our area, and there is the "fantasy" of providing services to the state and local govs...but I do it for myself, for my family, for disaster preparedness. There are very specific instances where ham radio is NOT desirable and most of those involve radio direction finding and jamming in an overtly hostile environment by hostile forces...so in Ukraine currently...here in the USA, not very likely.
Carrington events are underrated in the instance of damage to power infrastructure, and over rated as far as ham radio goes. High Energy Electromagnetic Pulse from highaltitude nuclear explosions is a much greater threat to small electronics and modern ham radio equipment...again, war time scenario.
Good overall prepping for the more likely natural disasters makes the most sense, with a robust ham radio as a backup adjunct to that prepping. So having independent solar power, batteries, and a backup generator with appropriate fuel stores for reasonable outages seems like the most viable path forward
Hi, I’m Josh
@@HamRadioCrashCourse Hi, Josh. Sorry about that! Have a great day!
I'm a little confused as just getting into HAM that back in the day (I'm old enough to remember having to have a license for CB) CB had some radios that were SSB (Single Side Band) and I understand that HAM also can run on SSB. I guess the CB SSBs are limited to channels and HAMs are not.
Que Randy‘s response in three, two, one…
Don't be silly.
I would like some more info on CB and its correlation to 10meters HAM bands (if any)
No correlation other than it’s close to each other.
A spreadsheet chart of all this would be great
What would the spreadsheet say?
@@HamRadioCrashCourse words and frequency
@@HamRadioCrashCourse columns of attributes...such as frequency range, channelized or not, license type/cost, and all the other infomation you gave.
Thanks for all the great content! 73
Is not 60 meter Ham broke up in to Channels also ?
Could the feds jam or other wise shut off access to HAM frequency or any other frequency used by " peppers"? Making any and all radios and means of communicating impossible??
Nope. At least not at scale
They could, but it'd take allot of power and such to do. Tbh it'd take less resources to DF and go raid those they want to shut down.
what is amatuer radio ?
Best concise explanation for why licensing even exists. Nice.
Thanks!
I dont have a license. Looking for a small radio like a cell phone abilities. gold spot price is going threw the roof. The dollar could just be not worth any thing. When that happens want a back up. wife and I to communicate. Cuz cell payments for service might go? So sending messages to the wife, would be a must. have any idea which would be best?
Josh, I am sure you have a video out there for this but I don't want to go back and search them all. My church has events twice a year, we are using the Arcshell AR-5 radios that were donated to us. Do we need a license to use these and if so what license and how do I obtain one. The FCC website is horrible, even on GMRS under the licensing tab, there is not a link to get one, just says you need one.
I can’t tell what frequencies they operate on. So I am not sure.
Sorry, I thought that the lower the frequency the LESS environmental attenuation there will be (i.e. buildings, trees, etc) So MURS would work better in buildings and around trees. and FRS/GRMS will work better out in the clear (it'll have a higher quality signal.) How FM is going to affect this who knows.
16:06 Did you forget who you are? Don't worry, we know ya!!!! Keep it in, it adds character!
Lmao. I got toward the end and totally forgot to do my rough cut... It's at the end, so I'll leave it :D
I need radios with distance for my logging business. 0-10 nm Where should I start?
Get a business FCC license.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse paired with which type of radio?
Business radios. Or something with the right frequencies.
GMRS has a very robust repeater network… more active than a lot of the ham repeaters in my area.
It's the opposite in my area. We have one GMRS repeater, and at least ten HAM repeaters ranging from 50 MHz to 900 Mhz.
Gmrs has a call name I didn't know you can use them on a job site
10:07 I believe that you meant to say FRS and MURS here. I think GMRS excludes business use.
You are correct on GMRS, at least for new users/licenses.
The FCC personal radio services page describes GMRS as a "5-25 mile range Citizen Band service for family use in their neighborhood or during group outings". While their GMRS page states that "The GMRS is available to an individual (one man or one woman) for short-distance two-way communications to facilitate the activities of licensees and their immediate family members. ... The rules for GMRS limit eligibility for new GMRS system licenses to individuals in order to make the service available to personal users. (Some previously licensed non-individual systems are allowed to continue using GMRS)". That that last part is where some business use is still grandfathered in.
47 C.F.R. § 95.1703 defines a "grandfathered GMRS license" as a GMRS license held by a non-individual person (i.e., a partnership, corporation, association or governmental unit) as a result of renewals of a GMRS license issued prior to July 31, 1987. Therefore, it sounds like they would still be able to use GMRS for business.
But then again, 47 C.F.R. § 95.503 defines FRS as "A short-distance two-way voice communication service, with limited data applications, between low power hand-held radios, for facilitating individual, family, group, recreational and business activities". And the FRS and GMRS frequencies overlap, so... maybe there is some ongoing business use that's authorized?
@@ryanv7075 They way I'm reading it is that business can use CB, MURS and FRS. GMRS (except very limited and distant businesses that previously had the license from 1987 and before) is limited to personal use of the service exclusively. While it's true that the radio frequencies overlap the FRS and GMRS service, the radio themselves are different and the power levels are different. In use, business would be limited to 1/2 and 2 watt radios on the FRS/GMRS bands while those with a GMRS licenses (excludes business specifically) can use the higher powers and they will have access to the 8 repeater channels.
Is there any way to contact Josh via email, to offer compensation for his time, to answer specific questions ?
I find these little radios fascinating, I like buttons and radio communications, but the reality is... I have no friends to talk to who are into radio and in a prepper situation, you're too busy cleaning up and doing things to bother with any radios at all. I mean, if your house is about to be swept away by a flood and you're stacking sand bags, do you really have time to try to get anyone out there to respond to your pTT on a handheld radio. No, in a real prepper situation you need a way to boil hot water for a shower in the morning and stay warm at night. Even in an ice storm that effected the whole region, I turned on my radio during my downtime, but there was no useful information out there on the radio stations. You end up switching to music stations.
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I can't wait until Subspace Communications😂...
CB is where it is at. Especially when all the people I want to talk to, is within 60 miles. I can barter-trade-sell and everyone I talk with are near, no repeaters needed, and honestly there is more experimenting on CB than Ham Bands.
Experimenting? Please elaborate.
Build your own antennas and easily talk 60 miles. On a house radio 5 to 10 mile was average. The one long wire antenna I had, I could talk 450 miles regularly with no amplifier attached and using only the 4 watts out of my radio. The only thing you need to know is the wavelength of the wire and my long wire was only averaging 10 feet above ground and a little under 100 feet long. I had 3 acres of ground to stretch out on, and I could hand turn it to the direction I needed to talk to.
@@bmfitz2647 Experimenting with/building different types of antennas, trying out digi-modes (JS8, ROS, SSTV), setting up gateways (FreeRadioNetwork), just to name a few examples. And all of that on CB 😉