The Killua Problem SOLVED!
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I just figured that many of Killua's non-Nen skills were simply genetic. As if he was physically just built differently than most other humans. This specifically applied to his retractable nails, but also his unnatural endurance and speed. Also, each of his assassin techniques sounded like skills that people could perform even without Nen, as long as they developed specifically on their speed and precision. Sure, Nen could explain it all in most normal humans, but Killua and his family are anything but "normal".
HIs brothers could have also been seen as sort of "duds" compared to him.
Mind you, of course, Togashi never planned on having Nen in the first place, but I don't think the sudden introduction of Nen really changes the parts where there was a lack there of. Now, when it comes to Killua's entire family, I think part of it was that they were... "experimenting" with each of the siblings. See what worked and what didn't.
Although, now that I'm thinking about it "outloud" one main reasons why Killua never learned about Nen and Nen Users was in part due to his natural instincts... And Illumi's Needle in his brain. Obviously Nen Users (even low level) are a huge threat to Killua's life. And without being outright told what Nen was, he just simply avoided Nen Users "naturally" (as far as the needle is concerned) and because he never consciously realized what it was he was avoiding, he also never really thought about it being Nen.
Dangit, commented a bit too soon again. (Dragon Dive) Ehem. This would have been the first time that Killua would have actually seen the ability as a Nen ability (assuming that the manifestations of dragons are invisible to non-Nen users). However, regardless of if normal people can see Dragon Dive, Killua wouldn't need to see it to recognize it in less than a second. Killua recognized it by how it FELT, not by what he SAW. Nen is based in Aura afterall and that aura has affects on it's surroundings.
Maybe not being aware of using nen gives you powered abilities that don't really have to directly follows the rules of nen.
Wait Raid Shadow Legends is still a thing? I figured the meme died in early 2022
What about Floors 120-199?
Things make a lot more sense if you see Killua as a homeschooled kid.
When he meets Gon he might *think* he knows a lot about the world, but everything he had experienced up until running away from home was strictly curated by his loving parents and a VERY overprotective brother in order to educate the future head of the family.
That's kinda of a contradiction tho.
@@wadewilson8011 Sort of, but it's not uncommon for people to think they know more than they actually do.
@@wadewilson8011 If I'm gonna keep it a buck 50, it has been said by Wing that many great skilled people use nen without realizing what it is. We get a second example in Zepile, and Killua and Gon looking for valuable art.
So in my opinion, there is no plot hole. Killua was isolated and trained and even if he said he didn't know what Nen was, he could have encountered it without realizing. Most in the hunter exam did not notice Hisoka or Illumi using Nen.
It also stands to reason that killua may have heard a detailed description of Dragon Dive and had never seen it in person.
Also illumi was in charge of his training and used that needle to control everything killua did, and it could probably affect what information he could put together and Illumi obv wanted to wait til killua was ready to teach him Nen.
@@wadewilson8011 how?
@@wadewilson8011 I don’t see how that’s in anyway a contradiction as he was literally homeschooled with no friends and his parents controlling his life. It’s the whole reason he ran away in the first place
Silva knew about Illumi’s needle, which tells Killua to run away if he’s ever in danger. Then Silva told Killua to protect his friends no matter what.
Silva thought Killua would come back to get stronger once he failed and Gon died.
It’s actually a master plan that only failed because Killua removed the needle.
to be honest, the master plan is work. (to know the power of nanika)
gon must be dead or dying because of something, and silva tell killua to protect his friend no matter what.
Gon already dead twice when facing pitou.
first, kilua saved him.
second, kilua leave gon alone to face pitou, yes gon win but the cost is too much (gon already dead i think)
because kilua failed to save gon, he come back to the family. and ask nanika to help gon.
in the meantime silva and the family want to know what the requirements to activate nanika power.
and thats what killua do. the rest are history.
I like this idea a lot.
It did still kinda work too since Killua returned to save Gon by planning to use Nanika.
Man, them Zoldycks are a manipulative bunch tho, even the dad who gave off such a cool vibe, he's no different either 😆
How did Killua turn out so different, maybe we can blame Gon for that lol
You know what gets to me? When I come up to a rebuttal to a point mid video, start typing then the person in the video address that point lol.
I think Killua not knowing Nen was 100% due to his father and Illumi’s desire to control him. My theory is that Silva let Killua go under the premise that Illumi’s needle would stay a secret and he’d eventually come back for more training after abandoning Gon or watching him die
@l123 why did bisky even say that, I doubt she sensed the needle
@@Hargazer I don't think she noticed the needle, but I think she noticed Killua's habit of running away from tough battles.
A lot of his assassin techniques seem like different applications of Nen. His shadow step is like conjuration, snake awakens is like transmutation and when he grows his nails looks like manipulation with enhancement to strengthen them. Killua really is a puzzling child
since the techniques are super minor and provide minimal benefit even at a multiplied energy cost itd be easy for any nen affinity to accomplish it. unique hatsu limited to certain cultural/genetic groups are also well established in the show. the constant torture and pursuit of assassination could also be a nen vow enabling access to normally less efficient affinity skills
I like to think that it's just super human abilities. I mean, we saw non-nen users being able to open the testing gate at the Zoldyck estate. People who train hard are capable of amazing things that do not require aura in the HxH world. It's just that what aura can do overshadows that by a wide margin.
@@Yodah97 lets not forget that creatures that they consider to be normal animals have nin-like non-nin abilities, like the human faced monkeys, or the hypnotic butterflies. Not counting chimera ants since they are from tbe dsrk continent
@@AngelNearDestruction I mean what we understand as "nen" is the Shingen-ryu nen school created by Netero. Which is where everything from the nen affinities to the principles of nen come from. There is definetly room in the story for more raw, unstructured use of aura and nen. Which is likely what a lot of magical beasts use without realizing. Maybe not as full on abilities, but as a bit of extra fuel to allow their bodies to behave in ways that traditional science can't explain.
I mean it's crazy to think that Nen as we know it is only as old as Netero is. Who knows how people practiced Nen before that.
@@Yodah97 any1 at the top of there Profession is most likely to have nen the guy that infused his nen into his copy cat art without knowing shows nen is natural to everyone just u can learn or force learn/near through near
death experiences
When Killua stayed at the Tower when he was 6, it is easy to assume that Illumi was shadowing his moves without him knowing, and filtering his possible opponents, so he would not be initiated.
The initiation doesn’t happen until floor 200 which Killua never even went to after qualifying. They also sent Gon who couldn’t use Nen straight to floor 50 and Killua who had made it to floor 200 before to floor 180. If someone showed up who could already use Nen they would likely be sent to the high 100s if not floor 200 right away. Plus Nen is kept a secret from the uninitiated so it’s unlikely Killua would have encountered Nen users and even if he did Illumi’s needle and conditioning would make Killua forfeit the fight right at the start
I always just thought the easiest way to explain it was that because all of his family are capable of some pretty amazing things he just didn't realise it had a whole name and system to it. Like the claws and the rythm echo thing. It's possible he was just using low level nen in a more instinctive and primal way.
Could also apply to why the zoldycks didn't explain it to him. If he was capable of doing stuff without formal nen training, then they may have wanted to see how much he could learn on his own and whether he would realise what was going on. The control aspect could also be true, he's easier to groom for their needs if he doesn't know nen.
But it could also be the opposite, they expected him to run away and either wanted him to have to return for more training when he realised nen exists and needs to improve (this could also explain why he only got so far in the tower, it may have been a test to see if he'd realise nen existed and maybe it would awaken him) or that they wanted him to go and learn nen on his own to see how he develops naturally without their influence forcing him into a certain shape. Certainly this may make sense as Zeno and Silva don't have very assassin like abilities suggesting maybe they just went with what suited them and they want to encourage this behaviour to unlock his actual potential rather than waste it trying to fit him into a box. The other children having more specific abilities could also make sense as they aren't the prodigies so they just need to fulfill a niche for the family and they don't mind so much if they never reach their absolute peak
thats my opinion too. its like a self taught street fighter learning of technical classifications for the first time. Killua understood the applications and effects without understanding the structure and organization
I like this
@@jellybeans336just explained me and fighting games perfectly
I think that what Killua can do is just normal assassin training and the reason he don't know nen is why he didn't want to be an assassin and is a lot more easy to manipulate or keep him if he don't know nen
I always thought it would be Illumi's Needle and some explanation would be given later. Like somehow it repressed memories or something because Killua was too powerful and had to forget Nen or something. But this makes more sense.
For the heaven’s arena plot hole Killua could just assume any nen type abilities he would see were similar to assassination arts his family taught him. Also I’m really on board with his family hiding nen from him theory, remember Killua from a very early age was considered to be probably the most talented Zoldyk in history and the future head, so the family wanting to keep his development on a short leash makes alot of sense.
That's a pretty good point!
Although, Killua was able to sense Zushi's and Wing's Ren immediately and acted like he'd never seen anything like it before. And surely any fight with a normal Nen user would result in them using Ren at some point.
Killua never fought anyone on the 200th floor as a kid. He told Gon he left the arena and went back home once he was promoted to the 200th, never setting foot in it
My guess is his family tried to get him initiated by that timec
Especially with Illumni's Needle in his brain making him instinctually avoid even weak level Nen Users... That's the real reason he never went to the 200th floor. He instinctually knew there were people more powerful than himself up there. However, the "fear" he felt wasn't real, so he never put two and two together until the Chimera Ant Arc where the needle was both discovered and removed.
@@manguy01 he didnt act like he hasnt seen it before. in fact he was even more interested to learn about it because HE HAS felt it before with illumi. especially with REN. He was just scared shitless.
@@manguy01 correction, he acted similarly to when Illumi also exerted his ren to him during the hunters exam (minus the freaking out, killing someone, and then leaving without a trace part)
During the final phase of the Hunter Exam, Illumi expressed to Killua that he isn’t ready for certain things until Illumi and Silva deem him so.
That’s literally all I needed to answer why Killua didn’t know about nen.
Thank you for this now I don't need the video
This. It was never a plothole, Illumi and Silva simply chose not to teach him until he was older.
@@KaoruMzk It is a plothole because NEN wasn't in Togashi's mind yet at the start of HxH. He added it later as he goes. Not teaching Killua early is just a convenient excuse.
How do you explain his time in the tower then?
Killua was probably beaten into not asking what nen was and how to use it.
The same way he didn’t exactly have close friends bc his mom threatened ppl to not go near him.
I always thought that "the snake awakens" was not Killuah tranforming his arms into tentacles but rather it just looking like that because he is god damn fast. I thought it was a faster version of the move he did when he broke that one Troupe member's arm.
I think his snake awakens is just Killua dislicating his joints and enhancing them with basic nen to use them as whips
Yeah like, when you make a pencil look bendy by shaking it
yeah, his basics non-nen abilities like pain resistance, poison resistance, electrical afinity, speed, reaction time, bone control (dislocating joints and hand claws), silent walk, after-image clones... they all are way above or on par with what some nen users can do using nen abilities.
Maybe Illumi put in a command in that needle that Killua would ignore nen till a certain age to make sure he couldn't run away earlier. He saw Dragon Dive before, but because of the needle, as soon as he looked away he forgot or ignored it. But once he got rid of the needle, he put 2 and 2 together and recognized it
That is a massssive leap to take though lol I mean, yeah…he could just say that’s what it is(or something just as crazy) but that would just prove that nen very obviously was not apart of the series initially. If it were there would be no need to have to do some mental gymnastics in order to make this how thing fit…it would’ve never needed some off the wall explanation because he would’ve accounted for that from the start. It’s forgivable because the nen power system might be the best one in all of anime…it’s incredibly detailed, interesting, powerful, and best of all…it’s very well balanced(to this point at least) so it’s definitely worth having to retcon little things in order to bring the nen system into Hunter X Hunter
@@jordancave3089 is it really a stretch? Why not illumi implanting a command in the needle to recognise hostile aura so he'd either run away or find a way to deal with it, like dragon dive so he can evade it?
Probably Zeno just explained it but Killua believed it was a technique that can learn like the rhythm echo
We can see people use nen already in the hunter exam so at least a few basic things were already made
Killua also didn't want to be an assassin so this is probably why they didn't teach him nen
You could also explain it with simply not knowing it was nen if killua had seen it before. You see dragon dive and assume it's magic or a weapon, then much later you see it again but now feel the nen and understand what you're seeing.
@@Zithorius if is nen Killua can't see it so that Zeno just explained it is more believable
It makes sense because even with someone like Komugi who unlocked nen she didn't realize it. To her she just enhanced her natural abilities. This is probably the case for Killua as well.
She plays a game gud, not blows buildings up lol.
@@extonjonas6820 i mean she plays a game so god an alien brained god couldnt ever win. Thats more impressive than killua tbh
@@davidbousi7845 Maybe technically but to her she is just playing a game better than everyone else. Kilua watching people do things that nobody else can do is completely different. Plus kilua is more that a little bit more perceptive than her
@@davidbousi7845 tbh everyone could do that by making same restriction as her but question is why would you want to make restriction that you die if you lose and probably when use nen for other things.Of course by everyone i meant nen users that know how restrictions works
It makes sense because such cases were explained when Nen was first introduced. IDK what are you all on tbh.
The theory I typically use for this is that Killua had open Aura Nodes when he was younger, but Illumi's needle forced them closed and suppressed his memories.
Even with closed Aura Nodes, Killua was able to sense Nen, but while this could be used as evidence I think it more has to do with Killua's own talent. We saw other people (Machi, Gon, Komugi) develop Nen-related skills with allegedly closed Aura Nodes, so I think that's just the mark of a Nen Genius.
The two big reasons I think that he had known about Nen in the past are Alluka and Dragon Dive.
Do you honestly think that Killua, if he'd remembered Alluka existed, would have left her behind? Or never mentioned her to Gon? Even when under the influence of the needle? No. He just couldn't drag her into the Chimera Ant Arc.
The Dragon Dive issue also happened after Killua removed Illumi's needle. If Killua had open Aura Nodes prior to the needle's insertion, then Zeno probably would have shown him Dragon Dive just in case.
So, my thoughts: after Alluka was locked away, Illumi, fearing that Killua would lash out and get himself killed for her sake, put the needle in to control him. This resulted in Killua's Aura Nodes closing and his memories of anything Nen-related, such as Nanika, being suppressed and unreachable.
Following this line of thinking, and considering that half of the Election Arc revolved around Zoldyck Family Politics, Killua's entire journey could have been an intra-family mission.
If the needle was in Killua's head prior to his first venture into Heavens Arena, Silva could have dropped him off there in hopes of Killua breaking Illumi's spell. Illumi could have killed any Nen-Users that Killua could have run across prior to the 200th floor, and we're never explicitly given a reason why Killua never set foot on the 200th floor. It could have been the needle's fault.
If Illumi did attend the Hunter Exam to sabotage Killua, then Silva could have let Killua go with Gon while Illumi was busy with the knowledge that traveling with a Hunter would expose him to Nen and lead to the eventual removal of Illumi's accursed needle.
Ah, sorry. That was a bit of a rabbit hole.
I like the idea illumi killed any nen user who wuold have faced Killua or threatening them not to use nen against him if they wanted to live. It is in character with illumi and makes sense as to why he never encountered them during those years
Yeah this video essay was missing this key piece that you mentioned about Alluka and Killua's wiped memories. If Illumi can wipe or block memories he can do that with any Nen teaching Killua's received before the needles were set. This all ties very well the plot holes in my humble opinion.
Now Dragon Dive and Heaven's Arena makes perfect sense.
Is not until Killua removes Illumi's needles that he begins to remember but slowly. He doesn't appear to gain instant knowledge of everything he had forgotten. Similar like Meruem post-Rose he was remembering as he was seeing or hearing things. Killua was slowly but surely starting to remember shit that he was told or witnessed when he was a child.
Zeno's Dragon Dive, maybe he saw engravings or he listened explanations and actually saw it in action but he didn't know what it was back then (like he "felt" the attack, and witnessed the devastation of the attack, but he didn't saw anything as non-Nen user would).
@@Afreshio the thing is that Nen-based attacks open Aura Nodes. The only way they would still be closed at the start of the series is if they'd been forcibly closed. Considering that Killua is the only individual we've seen this type of needle used on, I'd say that Illumi probably came up with a needle that could wipe memories, close Aura Nodes, and control the target's mind on the conditions that the needle was only ever used on Killua and couldn't control him completely if his Aura Nodes were ever opened again. Illumi wouldn't risk killing a defenseless Killua, so Killua probably had open Aura Nodes prior to the insertion of the needle.
Or Togashi just wasn’t paying attention
@@sprawlz6466 that doesn’t really add anything new to the discussion.
I personally thought that Silvas challenge for Young Killua to reach the 200th floor was a meant for him to learn Nen but since Killua didn't actually fight on the 200th floor he just shrugged and assumed he'd learn Nen later.
That's a really good point... Although, if he really did want Killua to learn nen, he could have forced him to stay even after the 200th floor or taught him nen himself...
@@MarieJade4ever yeah but killua wouldve died if he kept trying n 200 at age 6
Reach just means qualify, if Killua had fought on the 200th floor and won then that would mean he reached floor 201 which isn’t what Silva told him to do. Illumi also used Nen as part of Killua’s conditioning to prevent him from going up against opponents who could use it so Silva would know that if Killua did go up to floor 200 then he would flee once someone started using malicious aura and come straight home
@@kori612 Maybe. We just don't know this for sure. Maybe he would have had to learn nen and would have succeeded. There is no actual way to tell.
Just to play the guy who comes up with any theory so long as it doesn’t break the immersion: what if Killuas family kept him from nen on purpose to allow him to discover it naturally at the right time, and the dragon dive he saw it but didn’t understand that it was nen until later. 1:35
Kurapika couldn't see nen until he learned nen himself
@@jajinx2 to be fair it wasn't a giant lightning dragon. Like can regular see the one lady's vacuum or the one guy's finger guns? I imagine they probably can
I think that Illumi’s needle also played a role in his family keeping him from learning Nen until he was older (the reasoning being that he was a potentially problematic child with a lot of potential). One of the subliminal messages/thoughts Killua has while fighting Shoot is “Don’t ask questions.” Maybe part of the mind control was not looking too deep into Nen. For example, it didn’t occur to him to ask Zushi about the technique he used. But, I think this wasn’t as effective as the running away part of the mind control. Maybe Illumi felt more strongly about that rule.
I think Killua recognised Dragon dive because of the feeling that Dragon Dive emits in terms of aura. Remember that Illumi's needle always gave Killua a distinct vision of Illumi whenever the condition activated as Killua is feeling Illumi's aura even though he never saw Illumi's nen after learning nen. So most likely he once saw Zeno use Dragon Dive and the aura emmitted gave him a feeling that felt again during the Invasion so yeah that would be the most logical answer that covers this plothole.
As for the assassin abilities, well . . Zoldyck torture training. Like how he can dislocate his arms and hand at will and probably use that to do the snake thing. the nails are maybe always sharp it's just that they don't emphasize on it when unneeded in the anime/manga, and the walk I have no clue. Brain tricking perhaps. by going at that certain hypnotic rythm.
I don’t think he’s ever seen Dragons Dive before but he’s definitely felt it before or at least heard about it.
@@LuisRivera yeah when I said saw I meant zeno used it in front of him. Not like can see it.
Also possible that it was fairly clear from start that Killua was a rebellious kid who did not just fall in step like the rest of the Zoldyck kids. So Silva maybe thought it would work in their favor to let Killua learn Nen on his own (so he didn't tell him about the secret of floor 200 but told him to go there. Of course Killua just left after making it lol. Killua was also SIX at the time. Advanced as he may be, he was SIX. Even at TWELVE, he spent a lot of time focused on eating chocolates. I seriously doubt he was studying other people's fight videos at 6-8 years old to discover why some people were stronger than others. In addition, Silva let Killua leave the Zoldyck household at least twice that we know of prior to Nen learning. Maybe Silva hoped he would encounter Nen on his own and learn it. Which he actually did). We all know that many children let alone rebellious ones will deliberately refuse to do stuff parents tell them to. So forcing him to learn Nen may have been counterproductive. Particularly when certain aspects of Nen like Hatsu require someone to manifest their inner self. It's not like other physical techniques like the assassin skills that are more practice oriented. The strongest version of Killua, in whom the entire family places their hopes into, would be one that is fueled by his own self discovery. It's how Nen has been shown to be maximized. Yes, you need hard work too, but without that self realization and understanding, you do not get to your peak (or you end up failing at making sensible techniques like Cheetu).
As for Dragon Dive, to me it's not that incredible. Killua immediately deduced the presence of Komugi (down to almost the last detail outside of her name) just by knowing that Pitou's En disappeared for a short while. His ability to perceive things with the smallest amount of information is incredible. He probably felt Zeno's aura before but did not know what it was (like Gon feeling Hisoka's in the Hunter Exam woods, like Gon and Killua feeling Hisoka's and Wing's aura in Heaven's Arena). He probably heard Zeno talk about or even saw his ability at some point in the 10 or so years he was at home and may not have know then it was Nen and thought it was just some martial arts thing. And then.... he feels a massive amount of familiar aura raining down from the sky... what the heck else would it be?? I am sure he can put 2 and 2 together. :)
Silva knew that the needle was influencing Killua's actions, and knew that it would keep Killua from helping Gon at a critical moment. After all, Gon just walked into the Zoldyke Manor, he'd certainly get into trouble again.
He made Killua promise to never betray his friends so that this failure would be all the more crushing. He didn't account for Killua removing the needle before Gon got himself killed though.
Honestly, I could see the assassin skills being training for all of the nen categories, making it so Killua could not only have a head start on his own nen nature, but all of them.
I just kind of figured it was one of those things that Illumi had blocked in Killua with the nen needle at the same time as the always run away thing. Like a temporary, forget about all the nen stuff you've seen. That way when he goes out he can't "get stronger" than illumi. But learning about nen is still possible obviously, and then when he removes the needle: Things that were more unexplainable; His grandpas Dragon move: Goes from "Oh yeah my gramps has this assassin move called dragon dive, I don't know how it works: Then after he removes the needle: He "remembers" the move and actually sees it with nen, makes it make more sense to him: And he just doesn't comment on it in show, because he figured everything out.
I just want more of Gon and Killua. Their friendship is just so great. Even IF Gon never gets his powers back I I want more of them in the Hunter X Hunter manga.
even if he doesn’t get his nen back this man was still superhuman without it lmfao
Agree. I just want to see them be kids together
The thing about learning nen is that it directly inhibits character growth. You have to focus your entire will towards a single goal. That was the danger of teaching nen early that we were warned about when gon and killua learned it. This also explains why the other zoldycks were aware of nen earlier, as they weren’t being prepared to lead the family as killua was because of their dark hair.
Their hair doesn’t have anything to do with them leading the family. The reason Killua was chosen to become the head of the family was because he was the most talented and had the most potential to become a great assassin compared to his siblings.
I still don't understand why Kalluto learned Nen much earlier than Killua.
Kalluto didn't even take the hunter exam,
Also, it can be assumed that Kalluto [at her age] is a more advanced nen user. LoL.
Remember, during the Chimera Ant Arc, she was already able to beat a not-so-weak Chimera ant.
But when Killua was the age of Kalluto,
He could not even kill any enemy that uses nen.
Talk about inconsistencies.
LOL
Personally, I always just assumed Silva chose not to teach Killua nen early on in order to hone him as an assassin. Killua was a natural genius and chosen as the family successor, so he'd want to develop him carefully. He would train Killua to become a perfect assassin and reach the peak that a human could reach, and then train him in nen to go beyond that. If he learned nen early on he might become too reliant on it or lose touch with their roots in assassination techniques. They taught Kalluto because he wasn't the successor and would better serve the family as a nen-capable assassin.
I honestly feel like his family with-held him from finding out about nen to the best of their ability
They knew Killua had the most potential ever and that made them declare that he would become head of the household. Knowing Killua, he has a childlike nature underneath all that darkness and his family knowing that, they figured he would develop his nen abilities around childish antics early on, making his abilities useless later on as an assassin and ruining his potential. So they did the best they could to hide him from nen and to have a natural fear around anybody stronger than him (Illumi's needle) which would require him to run in fear (Nen users would be stronger against a non nen yielding Killua) and he would have never encountered it in a fight.
Thats my theory on it, it explains it the best to me
I have a head canon where Killua was taught Nen as a child. Probably just the basic ten/ren before his 2 yr stint at heavens arena, and upon his return when he was more vocal about his desires for freedom that is when Illumi put the needle in his head. The needle serves a dual purpose helping to control Killua but also making him forget Nen entirely. (For the sake of removing tools to help Killuas bid for freedom). When the needle is removed in the Chimera ant arc his memories return and that is how he can recognize dragon dive, and also how he can warn the Hunter association about Illumies needle people in great detail during the chairman arc. It might be a stretch for Illumie to wipe memories away, but if he can control people's entire body, it's a small stretch in my mind. Considering Killua was a small child, and probably not expecting an attack from a family member.
(Head)Canon*, unless you're talking about suicide for some reason
Hahaha I mean if some guy can have chainsaw hands, why can't I have a cannon head?
I mean didn't illumi needle make kil forget about alluka and nanika? Isn't that enough proof of wiping out memories?
I love when Killua shows off his pre-nen skills
I'm pretty sure that not all Nen abilities are invisible... Especially the more concentrated ones. iirc the explanation given for GYO says that experienced Nen users hide their abilities to throw their opponents off and that's why they need to learn to apply GYO during a fight... Not that all nen is invisible all the time. If that where the case texture surprise, the ability texture surprise copied, Skill hunter, Kurapika's chains, Conjured Weapons in general, and a ton of other abilities would be completely useless since it relys on normal people being able to see them. but correct me if I'm wrong, good chance I am
Gyo is used to see when a person hides their aura from other nen users, any other class aside from conjuration is invisible to normies
Good video, I never thought about this issue before! It's such a shame that we don't have more info about this from Togashi himself. I think that it would be nice if Togashi solved this type of plot hole with light novels, as we have seen in some other manga works such as Naruto. This way the manga wouldn't need to stop progressing to do a flashback arc, but we could still enjoy other aspects of hxh that fans are curious (e.g. Killua's childhood, Ging's adulthood at the beginning, etc).
to me the dragon dive can be easily explained. Killua is not seing DD at the palace invation, he is feeling the aura, something even non nen users can do. He recognized that move, not through visual stimulus, but rather because of the aura present.
Yeah that’s what I thought, he probably recognized his grandfather’s aura and thought “Wait this is gramp’s move” not as a statement but more of a surprised question
Yes i believe this as well. Which is why thid plot hole doesnt bother me too much.
He was able to recognize the thing Zushi did was similar to what Illumi does to him even when he didn't know Nen, so it's not farfetched for him to recognize it due to the feeling of the aura alone.
10:37 I thought Nen attacks are only invisible to people if you make them, and the only way to see invisible attacks that are INTENDED to be invisible to those who can't is to use Gyo.
So like, he might have seen his grandfather use it somewhere when he had a job.
I have an alternative take on this issue
Well, not fully alternative because the explanation of his father deliberately keeping him in the dark is rock solid, but my take on Killua's ability and contradictory knowledge and not knowledge of nen is that he sort of naturally managed to observe nen due to constant exposure to it, but perhaps not all of nen, only that of his family members due to proximity, exposure or frequency of seeing their weird shit
And then, a young Killua, ignorant of nen as a whole, went on to think "man, I also want to do weird shit like my family" and trained SO DAMN HARD he was able to perceive details about the body that no one else was and perform the weird shit he wanted without the aid of nen
Alternatively, Togashi does plan for more/a secondary power system to exist in the world, similar to how One Piece has both devil fruits/awakening and haki and/or there are more forms of using nen than just the method found by the Hunter Association, but either because they are unknown to the HA or are specific on a per user basis and therefore not replicable, they are either ignored or not widespread; similar to how there are some funky shortcuts to do math problems that aren't straight up calculations but still work; such as if you sum all the digits until you get a single digit from numbers divisible by 3 it'll result in 3, 6 or 9, it's a mathematical rule and can be mathematically proved, but it's somewhat worthless and can't really be perceived if you just look at the operations it involves
illumi's needle might be more important here too, since its goal was to prevent killua from fighting people stronger than him. the only way it could do that accurately is to let him assess nen users, since many of them arent immediately obvious as threats even when using their abilities, and almost all of them outclassed killua until he learned nen. the needle couldnt rely on killua's faulty senses and judgement, only changing killua's mindset; thatd send him headfirst into fights with nen users.
zushi is an interesting case, because killua *was* able to fight him. the needle didnt force killua to avoid fights with nen users (not that hard to program), since that would make zushi off-limits. the needle gave killua the ability to accurately assess zushi as a non-threat, until zushi briefly switched to using ren. this is a significantly more complicated ability than simple nen detection, and would explain how killua was recognizing nen abilities he had experienced long before he had the natural ability to detect them.
it bothers me a little bit how often it gets forgotten that not everything magical in hxh is nen based. there are literal magical beasts and literal magic separate from nen. we just focus really hard on nen because that's the part that got explored the most. i personally would love to see togashi just start exploring some non-nen based magic
Yeah. If I remember it correctly, Killua mentioned that Silva could also transform his hand but even better. With Ging’s abilities as an exception, the expression of Nen is very individual/personal. That Killua would copy a specific Nen ability from his father could happen, but I don’t think it fits imo. It just feels more natural to assume that “assassin techiques” etc are not Nen at all.
When did they introduce magic in HxH?
Also, I don't think the animals are magical because in a lot of other anime
the animals have special abilities and it also not magic. It explained as just something that the animal can do.
@@gadaddo4794 like second episode / maybe forth chapter or so
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@@MalkuthSephira hmm, maybe I need to rewatch the series.
Great video! I thought about the dark arts a bunch each rewatch of HxH!
My head-canon imagines dark arts as a system of aura usage that is not as refined as the Nen system standardized by Netero and hunters, but older. Aura has always existed in this world so things like dark continent calamities and such use aura, but outside the nen system that refers to it as nen. Also, dark arts dont seem to be grandiose or complicated - they are all simple mini-hatsu that can be learned and passed down as techniques that use aura. The dark arts themselves might use aura without realizing it. They are taught as techniques and the methods to master each are probably little standardized, micro versions of how nen users develop their own hatsus.
This means that Killua could have learned/mastered some dark arts, which also cultivated his aura and aptitude second-hand, AND exposed him to other techniques that some could be nen hatsu that he assumed were dark arts until later realizing them as nen hatsu and learning gyo to fully see them (he also "learned gyo" quickly so that could have also been some overlap with dark arts, who knows). This even makes sense with the hatsu he has likely experienced - he wouldn't need to be aware of nen or see it to accept that techniques exist with special powers.
He could know of Illumi's and Silva's hatsu without seeing needles or balls of energy (just effects of manipulation and destruction, respectively). He could have heard about dragon dive since he likely never went on a mission with his Zeno (their assassin dynamic doesnt really work like that where he would go on a mission with his grandpa). It could also be the case where if he did go on missions with Silva or Zeno, they had no reason to use any hatsu - just dark arts.
Lastly, the family could have been in agreement to not expose him to knowledge of Nen because they had no desire to get him closer to being a hunter, like what was said in the video. He would still get stronger without associating aura usage with hunters until later in life, extending their control over him for longer.
The money collection sub plot also was an early explicit reference to unconscious hatsu use. And this was a long time before the chimera ant arc even started.
Where they where searching for seemingly normal objects that where nen infused to sell for a higher price.
And I would argue that it was made very clear that most of the time those would have been a result of unconscious nen use.
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I think it's a bit as with haki, the rough concept may have existed when togashi planned the story out but in nowhere near the detail that eventually made it to paper
the unconscious Nen user theory makes a lot of sense to me! killua reacted to his brother's aura in the hunter exam without knowing what the aura was specifically but it felt dangerous, examples like Komugi or Neon Nosutorādo show you don't need to be aware of your ability even those around them don't necessarily know what going on completely. when Gon was shopping in york new he found three treasures with Nen. In the manga they explained how nen use was a spectrum those saints,, or masters were just people tapping into (genus, human potential, and using life energy )... to me, this made nen relatable and accessible. Of the few that reach enlightenment even fewer find that that's just a beginning point, and become conscious users. the major flaw I have seen is that everyone has the same terminology for Nen in the series. despite learning about it in different place maybe that will change in the dark continent
In the latest chapter where Machi unconsciously using Gyo when she was a child solves this problem.
Floors 1 through 199 *shows 119* still a great video as always ♥️
Hisoka's first kill at hunter exam always puzzles me... plus his vanishing technique when gon hit him and disappear like smoke... this seems that togashi didnt plan nen earlier
Hisokas first kill was just stupied censor. And the way he was vanishing was just supposed to show his speed and this wasnt in the manga
the assassination techniques being hatsu does make sense, both the fingernail claws and the snake awakens could be applications of transmutation while the afterimages would be conjuration (otherwise gon wouldn't be able to see the after images). Killua just didn't know that this is nen, like Gon subconsiously using zetsu or komugi enhancing her gungi skills. He could have also just heard about Zeno's dragon dive or might have even "seen" it in action but only realized after he learned nen himself that he had the realization of "ohhhh that's what grandpa did".
My theory: The Nen needle stuck in his head by Illumi gave him access to low level nen usage
I wonder if illumi's needle could have locked or repressed killua's memory of nen away. I know its not a stated ability of the needle but its not too far of a leap from the known abilities. That way, killua could have been taught nen at a younger age but had it locked away after silva and illumi saw him as a "problem child" as you said. This would allow him to have seen the dragon dive before and just not remembered it until he saw it after he had removed the needle.
I do like the idea of the assassin techniques being separate or at least tangential to nen. It gives the world a bit more flavour and depth
I think the needle has the ability related to memory bcuz he also forgot about alluka.
The Heaven's Arena can easily be explained with Illumi's Needle. A Nen user can just use a basic Hatsu and Kilua will be afraid to face them even days before the fight. He'll just easily surrender.
Always asked myself this question. Thanks for going through this.
10:30 I think its fairly reasonable that Dragon Dive is a nen ability that uses Transmutation and therefore might be visible without Gyo, similar to how Killua's electric abilities actually provide electricity which would then be visible without Gyo, because electricity is visible without Gyo, like in Tesla coils and lightning, etc. Maybe Dragon Dive transmutes the aura into something that is visible.
I always viewed Snake awakens as a speed ability related to just basic martial arts by moving his arms so fast that they just appeared to be whip like, but that just me.
I think his family hide it from him cuz he will be too strong to control
That's exactly what I thought. Killua ran away from home without nen.
If he had godspeed early on... they never would have seen that child again.
I think it’s consistent to how nen in general is treated as an esoteric concept in the world of HxH. There are multiple mentions of people using nen without even realizing it (e.g. exceptional artists or artisans), and how even professionals that can pass the first stage of the Hunter exam can go on for the rest of their lives without ever figuring out nen nor passing the “real” exam.
Of course there are some specific Toriyama-like omissions and inconsistencies. But, I’m general, the concept of Killua seems pretty consistent with how nen works.
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I love how open this community is to admitting when Togashi just messed up.
IMO, there might also be an angle that he was intentionally set up to manipulate the conditions for Nanika's abilities, and they just thought they had failed. Likely, knowing how nen abilities are always tradeoffs would have prevented him from making the authentic bond that lets him ignore costs, but he made that bond before learning about nen and then just never told anyone.
I love these videos they always explain a lot that either went over my head or forgot cause there's so much to this series but I can't believe I never put it together that Killua younger brother is a nen user and that makes no sense
I believe magic and other abilities in hunter hunter exist. They have magical beasts. You saw a few of them in the hunter exam arc. Creatures that can shape-shifting, change their voice and appearance, sprout wings. The chimera ants were even classified as magical beasts and then it was only "oh crap" when they expressed "there's one that can use nen"
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Unconsciously using nen, his family not wanting killua to use nen as a crutch to supplement his pure strength, and allowing him to discover nen naturally, okay that’s the best I can cope for now until further thought lol
I don't understand some people's obsession with making excuses for Togashi. He either didn't think about the nen system until he was well into the series or he didn't think about the plot hole that it created by introducing it later in the story concerning Killua. I still love Hunter x Hunter despite this plot hole.
Even if killua were unconsciously using nen, wing would have noticed and wouldn't have had to forcefully open his pores with nen
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3:36 that is an interesting way of writing 199. Do I need Nen to decipher it? Nice video though, always fun to hear these theories
I’m sorry for the late response, but one of my main theories as to why Killua “didn’t know nen” is that Illumi made him forget, which explains why Killua didn’t remember Alluka. Killua talks to himself in his mind about how he forgot about his sister, “was it because I was under Illumi’s control?” meaning Illumi’s manipulation *can* make Killua forget, it was pointed out in the series, so it’s reasonable for it to exists. That line carves out a solution to the whole Killua nen problem. It’s really safe to assume that Illumi %100 made Killua forget about Alluka using his needle. My main scenario is that Killua knew nen from the beginning, I mean his whole family is a group of nen users. It’s also safe to assume that Killua was 6 years old in his flashback in season 7 when Alluka was first introduced. The whole family knows Killua is mentally weak and that he has a very close bond with Alluka. Taking that in mind, it’s “safe” to say that the family knew removing Alluka from the picture might trigger Killua. To serve as a “distraction” from Alluka, Killua was probably sent to Heavens arena at the *age of 6* by Silva until he came back at the age of 8 to realize she was locked up. Knowing how rebellious Killua is to the thought of Alluka being mistreated even tho she is a member of the family, it would make sense that he most likely argued against his family after his return and did or said something that displeased them to the point that it influenced Silva to have Illumi manipulate Killua, to
1) Forget nen
2) Forget Alluka
3) Run away from enemies who are stronger than him
Point 1 to forget nen is probably to ensure that Killua wouldn’t have any means to remove the needle or know it’s existence so that the family would be able to have total control over him. Point 2, to prevent Killua from retaliating against the family for Alluka’s freedom despite the “threat” she is. Finally point 3, not sure what made them think it was necessary to make Killua run away from stronger enemies, obviously for his own safety but does that mean he is a chid that like Gon despite the odds enjoys a good fight no matter how stronger the opponent is? Maybe. Like Milluki said, Killua does not think like the other Zoldycks, since the family is desperate for Killua to take over the family business, it’s agreeable that they won’t cast him aside since he’s too valuable, meaning it’s possible for this scenario to play out. Especially with the manipulation, if he can’t think like a Zoldyck then manipulate him to. There’s a lot more that I can include to back this up, I apologize if it’s a bit confusing, it’s rushed, but I believe I already wrote too much as is, for anyone who has any questions regarding this, feel free to comment below I’ll do my best to provide a “solution/answer” to back this theory. Ty 🥲
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With regards to Dragon Daifu, my head canon has always been that Killua knew about it, but always just assumed it was a Dark Arts technique (or some other type of supernatural mumbo jumbo, since Hunter x Hunter has a lot more fantasy elements besides just Nen and Dark Arts); and then when he learned about Nen he just kinda went “Oh so that’s how Grandpa does that thing”.
It would have been interesting if Gon and Killua had switched opponents during the Knuckle/Shoot mini-arc. Then, assuming Knuckle would have been able to activate IRS on Killua, we would have gotten a definite answer as to weather or not Dark Arts is just some shit The Zoldycks made up so they wouldn’t have to tell Killua about Nen.
Dragon Daifu, huh...
It was stated all the way back in the York New arc that masters of their craft, like Komugi, could end up imbuing Nen in to their creatons. It came up when Gon and Killua were trying to raise money and ran into that treasure/antique hunter guy whose name I forget. Komugi just took it to a whole nother level with going from only imbuing nen to a full on ability.
My head-cannon (using bits from the comments too!): killua knew about nen all along - maybe not mastery, but basics.
With Wing & in the tower, he intentionally holds back, because he wants Gon to master the basics and not rush ahead and potentially hurt himself. He never explicitly tells Gon this because he doesn't want to hurt him, or have him pressure killua to show him stuff too quickly or something like that. To me this feels pretty consistent with Killua's relationship with Gon?
You could also add a layer saying that Illumi's needles supressed development/memory etc... of nen a bit, to help smooth the idea of Killua not figuring out more on his own as a kid.
The reason he doesn't have a fully formed power is due to similar reasons as in the video: Illumi and Silva kept that level of detail secret either: to control him, or to let him develop naturally, or some other variant. Killua didn't realise about contracts and rules etc... (only higher level nen users have this) in the tower the first time, as he only encountered basic nen users, who he could stomp with his basic nen + mega assassin powers.
His assessin powers can they either be some basic nen powers, or just nen-enabled physical powers, or just separate - and sure it'd be nice to have explicit lore-crafting about that but tbh I'm happy chalking this up to "the system wasn't fully formed at the start of writing". Pretty minor for me, as it's not plot relevant? any time he uses a "power" it could also be resolved by him being super fast + super strong - it's not like key plot elements revolve around the specific detailed mechanics of those powers: killua just uses them to wreck shit, which could also be done with fists and feet...
Training with biscuit is where he rly learns about nen and from then on his progression with gon is pretty honest.
This explains dragon dive at the end (he had seen it, but hadn't at the time known the structure of the whole layer of power difference between that and basic nen, he just knew his grandpa was a beast so of course he knows cool stuff).
It also explains why his brother is trained - as the Illumi/Silva control/potential etc... stuff doesn't apply, so they let him develop powers at an unrestricted rate.
Probably loads of holes with this - particularly thinking about times when they're in danger and Killua doesn't bust out nen... or maybe he does! but just no explicitly in front of Gon? Or maybe he does, like when he's using assassin powers, if you think of those as some sort of basic nen or nen-adjacent powers (remember, he can use manipulation, just not amazingly, and also you don't need a crazy contract for a basic power, right?)
Nen isn't always invisible right? Maybe dragon dive is visible to non-nen users and Killua saw the ability before he awoke his nen? Or maybe Illumi's needle repressed his knowledge of nen and/or unawakened his nen state? Though I do also like the idea that he wasn't taught nen beforehand so he didn't get any wacky escape plans with Alluka - which he later does after becoming more proficient with nen anyway...
All wrong! The reason he doesn't remember nen is not a plot hole. The reason is Illumi's needle that was implanted in killua's head, it was there to keep him safe and away from anyone stronger which involved nen users. Probably implanted before he went to heaven's arena which was also the reason he forgot about Nanika also. Illumi wanted his brother to be super safe and inconspicuous to all nen users and so killua forgot about it and felt fear whenever nen was used around him. When zushi used his ren killua backed off and probs would've resigned if it continued. That's why it took him 2 years and why he instantly backed off the fight in the hunter exam.
This makes a lot of sense he already knew how to use Nen because of his abilities but doesn't know he's using it, it also explains why he learns Nen so fast
As an addendum, Gon literally was his freeing light and why Killua said he was too bright to look at sometimes in the Chimera ark before the needle was removed. Their friendship broke him free from Illumis control. Which is why I think his Father let him go, because he knew that would be a way of freeing Killua from Illumi's control. An inner mission probably with him and zeno vs Illumi. As they knew that with illumi's character being the way he is he wouldn't relinquish control of him and that's why he made Killua promise to never abandon his friends to guarantee it happening.
Also had another thought I think Illumi hired Hisoka to help him keep Killua safe during hunter exam and that was mostly the reason they were both there as Illumi must've been following killua his needle acting as En. As they were friends back then and had phones to talk to each other.
It would be interesting if they revealed that the methods that the Zoldycks train to become assassins is an alternate path/application of Nen. In other words, if you think of Nen as some quantifiable material, perhaps they are gathering and/or channeling it through their body in an a non-typical manner. It would still be a tricky path to tread in order to try and fill the plot holes, but I could see it
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I feel like there is a weird worship of Togashi in the fandom at least in the English speaking audience. I've seen people treat you like a heretic for even suggesting Togashi might not have planned something. I think Nen as a concept not being a thing at the start makes the most sense. I feel like even if we get some plot holes or inconsistencies Togashi will probably keep writing what keeps his interest around the most.
I think the issue some people have is that this “plot hole” is very easily explained without any leaps of faith.
Sometimes this whole “Togashi makes it all up as he goes” theory is vastly over exaggerated to the point where people point to plot holes that don’t exist because they are primed to believe that he hadn’t planned anything.
Illumi established early on that he and Silva were preventing Killua from learning certain things until he was ready and that the whole family was worried what he’d do when he grew into his power because his potential is so high. They are both extremely capable assassins and could pull this ‘censorship of the topic of nen’ off easily.
Nen in the HxH universe is ALREADY supposed to be a tightly gaurded secret by those who use it. It is widely considered too dangerous to be shared with the general public so everyone around Kailua even strangers in public settings would be trying to hide nen from Killua by default and probably even more so when they realize that he’s already so deadly even without it, they likely think it would be a huge risk to teach it to such a monster of innate combat potential. (Many times in the series is this consideration made about the risk of the wrong person learning about nen)
Killua grew up with Alluka and Nanika, so fantastic magical powers were not that unusual for him to see and he easily could have witnessed plenty of nen from his family without having a word for it yet as it literally establishes that he had seen Illumi use nen before and didn’t have a word for it until he recognized Zushi using the same thing and had Wing explain it.
His assassin abilities can be explained by two things, either 1 they are not nen related (just like many other unnatural physical and magical talents are in HxH) or 2 they are natural nen talents like Komugis nen. (Komugi is a proficient user despite not even knowing the word) Killua was known to have the most potential possibly in his whole lineage so this is an easy one to believe.
The heavens arena problem is easily solved by realizing that Killua, again, was super accustomed to people with strange inexplicable powers and techniques growing up and so wouldn’t have made a big fuss about seeing new ones (just because he didn’t know the word nen doesn’t mean he hadn’t seen it before).
The dragon dive “plot hole” is maybe the worst one. Just because he didn’t know it was nen when he saw Zeno do it before doesn’t mean he couldnt sense the amount of aura that was there (like he could sense Illumis aura before knowing nen) or that he couldn’t see the destruction caused by it. Or even just have been told about it without someone mentioning it was nen (remember Killua would be super accustomed to fantastic abilities with no explanation from his early childhood). Now that Killua does know nen, he can recognize that this ability Zeno has is nen-based and recognized the same aura he felt or the same style of damage (pretty unique/recognizable to have a carpet bomb for an assassin technique).
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There was a clear reference by the anime that there is a transition between natural capability and nen use.
For example Gon had excellent sharp senses, and fast regeneration.
If we consider nen these are happening by nen strengthening the senses.
But there is also a natural ability that makes this stronger.
Nen is just a more efficient way to do these things.
if i recall, nen it self specificlly was not planned, but the different kind of abilitys had some concept in the writting, and basicly had to retroactivly fit some stuff into it. killua is considered a prodigy, he might not recognize what nen is, but as show multiple times, he only needs to see it once to understand the concept of it, and maybe a lot of them might just be mimicry without knowing the backside. and as for the dragon dive, there isnt a actual showing of what it looks like to regular people from what i can recall, so it might be a case there is some visual elements that can be seen without nen, or some other aspects that he recognizes what it is, this one in particular is a stretch since we just dont know.
Maybe Milluki give Killua a TLDR message about their family’s nen abilities when they were communicating about Greed Island 😅
To get back on the topic of the snake awakens technique, we know that Kirua has the ability to dislocate his arm (against macchi’s nen string in York shin) so maybe he did dislocate his arm to use them as whip. I still believe this is possible to achieve without nen. For his grandpa Dragon’s technique yeah… big pothole that I can’t explain 😅
it looked like the usual martial art stuff you would see in other shows
People forget hxh world has super human characters even without nen. Gon climbing the world tree thats like 2x the burj khalifa without nen was crazy. I can imagine they're also capable of other superhuman techniques like rhythm echo that don't require nen
it’s been noted people can use nen without realizing it so maybe Killua’s family wanted to secretly train him in techniques that didn’t suit his affinity first so that he could be a more versatile fighter. only other example of this i can think of is Netero and how he has practiced each affinity enough to apply them all
i always imagined he had seen it but was never told what it was. it could have been easily inserted into the heavans arena arc by him saying, "oh, so this is what my dad has been using" or something like that. i never would have questioned it.
My Head Cannon- So everyone on the Zoldyck Compound not only can use Nen, but regularly uses Nen, the maid that can turn into a car, the other maid who can use his mystic step, Grandpa dragon dive, his sisters magic power, it is totally unsurprising and just like the wieghted training gear and the gates to enter it is all just normal to Killua. He is not a terribly detail oriented kid and while he knows about all these crazy abilities he does not seem interested in understanding them which is consistant with his character. He learned how to kill at a young age, and he learned how to suffer, I am sure he thought the rest would come in time, but he was not interested in learning more and until he met Gon. During the Hunter examine is the first real challenge of his life, and it is why he wanted to finally learn so that he could overcome the challenges in front of him.
So for me, Killua is smart and traumatized, that is not the same as being curious and experienced.
I kinda have a theory so if you think about it everyone as nen unconsciously because it's a sort of life power and being in a state of zetsu and following someone may be too sus if they are nen user so the zoldick family made killua a sort of super soldier without nen to be able to kill nen user. For example during yorknew arc he could be a "normal" person in the crowd while following nobunaga and machi
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I always viewed it as Killua being taught how to survive w the basics before being shown advanced techniques like Nen. If he could survive with those, and then expand upon it with nen he would be the best leader later on.
There’s also a few other super human feats that are never explained as specifically nen/aura based but we can kinda retroactively place them in some category.
The serial killer with the iron grip strength. The shadow beasts. Komugi. All people who had super powers in some way.
So on the note of snake awakens it wouldn't need to be aura based because it is very similar to a martial art style that only requires you to be very flexible and they use abstract movements to "simulate" being rubbery or having no bones.
But when it comes right down to it all it is, is a form of physical conditioning
The only explanation is Illumi's needle, which made Killua forget about nen. But hard to buy it. But most sure Togashi planned nen since the beginning, he wasn't a rookie that had never written another shonen before, he wrote the acclaimed Yu Yu Hakushu.
I think killua has experienced what nen is, but he wasn't educated on it. This could be due to him leaving the arena before touching 200th floor.
His father, to me, seems like he would treat killua as a special case among his children.
It is possible I think that the trauma he suffered during his training and punishments awakened certain abilities.
An unknown memory manipulation technique by either Kikyo or milluki could be a handwave explanation for some of the plot holes
The dragon dive thing's definitely weird, but I don't think Killua had to personally seen it in action to know what it is during the palace raid. Could've been a drawing in the Zoldyck estate, or maybe Zeno had a library of training manuals with illustrations that Killua learned from, stuff like his other assassin skills. Who knows, he could've just heard what it looks like.. But, that's just me guessing.
How about this, Killua had nen all along because Illumi attacked Killua using nen. Illumi is a manipulator so he could easily make Killua run away from opponents who use advanced nen abilities and also, to protect the family, forget all nen abilities that his family has. Small group of people doesn’t need a big requirement. But he can’t stop Killua from seeing other peoples nen. That’s why he could still learn it, or in this case remember it. This theory clears the assassin abilities because it explains how he can use nen that was taught to him by his family which he forgot but could still perform the techniques through muscle/nen memory. This also explains heavens arena. With Killua’s abilities, it should not have taken him 2 full years to get to the 200th floor. Maybe a year at most but I would say 6 months. He already had Rhythm Echo at that age. Illumi likely payed attention to the matchups and made Killua forfeit or miss any match with a nen user. This happened a lot. Many nen users went to the arena but Killua just never fought them because of the needle. This theory can also explain Dragon Dive. Killua did see Zeno use this ability and knew it’s name but because of the needle, he couldn’t remember any of it because he was forced to forget all his family’s abilities. Once he removes the needle, he can now remember everything and knows all his family’s abilities. That’s also why he knows exactly how Illumi’s Needle People ability works after the chimera ant arc. For anyone saying Illumi’s needles can’t do that and the requirements are too high, the needle used to control Killua was very different from the other needles. It could easily have been fashioned with an immense amount of nen or with the requirement of maybe five family member’s blood.
Another explanation is that through torture the Zoldyk's bodies have evolved to have different functions explaining those abilities.
We also know the Killua is very special in the Zoldyk as he's supposed to be the next leader and their most talented child.
That would explain his silent gait if his bloodline evolved ankles that adapted to make less sounds and smoother moves.
The Serpent awaken could be from all the torture his bones adapted to being broken at will or become more flexible which would also explain why he's got his hands in his pockets like all other Zoldyks.
Same goes for his fingernails where Zoldyks have most certainly evolved that cat-like retractable claw trait that also works with his serpent arms.
I think the Zoldyks were scared of activating Nen in him but there is another possible reason: His childhood was so erratic and he is the most emotional in his family meaning that if they'd activated his nen he wouldn't have been able to control it and consequently die.
Divine Dragon dive, much like Kurapika's Nen Chain, could very well be visible to the normal naked eye.
Maybe his grandpa drew it in a book and that would be a reason why he recognized it.
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I feel like the easiest explanation for this is lumi's pin. The one he placed in kilah's head so kilow would always run if he's ever facing danger that could kill him. A similar pin could have been placed in his head or you know just kind of a lobotomized technique to make him forget about men when they sent them to the hunter exam
I kinda always assumed illumi's needle could have played a role in his lack of nen knowledge
When it comes to the dragon dive technique, it could just be one of those techniques that the user allows non nen users to see. Nen can be visible if they allow it to be and Zeno might want everyone to see so he can gain an extra fear factor when he attacks.
Togashi clearly just starts writing and drawing without much planning.
I always assumed the snake arm thing was just dislocating or loosening his joints in his arms and just kinda swinging around
I love your videos. I look forward to these a lot.
I always thought of the snake thing as Killua going full assassin mode and using his ability to dislocate all of his joints as a weapon.
I've been watching your new world review for so long! Almost if not every single one of your videos! I'd consider you one of the most experienced "Hunters" there is!
By chance you read my comment. What do you think the chances are that Zushi will return to the series? I think there is a ton of potential for him. Possibly to be chasing after Gon in the same way Gon chases Gin. Or maybe he joins with a crew who ends up opposing one of the main Protagonist and although he doesn't want to fight his "Allies" his agenda sort of forces his hand
I theorize the Zoldycks don’t train in Nen until a barrier to their training is reached. Killua with so much potential was able to be trained in more of the killing arts than the others. Nen takes shape better when you know more about yourself.
I feel like Killua was held in his home for the majority of his life and learning from his family of assassins learned of their abilities but not nen particularly. He could’ve seen his grandfather and father do crazy things that had names for them as well during training. The other point of his body contorting to weapons could be due to his family and the ways of an assassin not necessarily nen as the mother is part cyborg and strength of his family exceeding that of regular people when having to push 1-15 tons of door just to get inside their home. And the rigors of just living in his environment probably allowed for adaptation like how haki is in one piece.
I would bit the theory that Killua is a Nen genius. With all of his assassin training, he could have developed his hatsus instinctively. I also like the idea that his family kept him in the dark because of his personality.
killua could have known about the ability seeing it work etc and when learning nen put two and two together to recognize it even more.
At 3:35 hen says floor 1-199 but on screen was wrong!and had 1-119
I just assumed it was something to do with Illumi's needle