Great in depth video. Like cutting the bearing race to get to the inner. I'm trying to replace the bearings on a one piece axle shafts. They are too close to the back plate for me to get anything behind. I pressed the collar off fine. I think I'll go down that road on the bearing. Nice clear shots of getting the brakes back together.
good video. best one so far on rebuilding the 20. since most are used in off road applications it is recommended that you use a small amount of silicone sealant between the mounting flange and retainer and dust seal. not to retain grease but to keep as much water out of the area as possible since the secondary seal is locater toward the outside. also bolts should be in the drum area and nuts on the outside.
Thanks for the AWESOME video! The Jeep community is awesome when it comes to supporting the Jeep Junkie habit of DIY. I’m tearing down my 78 CJ as we speak up here in good old NY (upstate) Thank George too!
your the first video that I have seen were you actually install the bearing in the correct way. so many videos on you tube show the bearing installed backwards . wonder how many lost there axle that way. thanks.
Nice work on the video! I am at the leaf spring stage of an 81 CJ- 5 so its great to watch the next steps. Looking forward to seeing the axles put on the frame.
That Jeep Adventure thank you man! Think I watched all your rebuild video’s you have up! I’m looking forward to seeing what’s next that you repair,upgrade, maintenance!
Hey its me again the BARBERCHOP. Just taking it easy and checking out videos. to dang hot outside 98 and humid, I thumbs up on the build. but oops you screwed the pooch on the brakes. Remember primary in front secondary in back. You put the primary shoe (smaller show) on the back and Secondary in the front. It will brake great in reverse. Secondary shoe is all ways against the Anchor pin at the top. were it gets wedged between the anchor pin and the drum. Sorry
These axles are notoriously weak due to the 2 piece design. I didn't see you install the C-clip into the axle prior to installing the hub. If possible, upgrade to a 1 piece axle if any kind of off roading planned for this jeep. Nice job.
Check out the Bricklin Story on the Automoments Channel. Also see all the Bricklins on the Bricklin HH channel. oh let me know your technique for pressing the axle hat or crown off the axle on the AMC 20. It seems pretty tough on most of them. Just wondering if you had a good technique for that
I have added the information to the description of the video. I also have a more detailed video of this product on my channel too. Check it out for more info. The title of it is "AMC20 Pull Axle Shaft WITHOUT Removing the Brakes | Brake Backing Adapter Kit Upgrade | Installation"
I thought the trailing brake shoe with more lining went to the rear, and the one with less goes in the front. If that’s the case it appears that maybe the shoes are on backwards.
This might be a silly question, but why didn't you need axle shims? I'm in the middle of trying to rebuild my amc 20 on my 85 CJ7 and the the bearings and shims are driving me crazy trying to get the right tolerance. I think I'm just going to do the 1 piece conversion?? Is that a good idea?
Getting ready to order the Backing Adapter Kit. Plan to have my machinist modify my AMC 20 baking plates. What size hole is needed in the backing plate? I have my 150 finished and am just finishing up the rebuild of the AMC 304.
@@ThatJeepAdventure Thanks. Machinist says he is too busy and can't get to it for a few weeks. Guess I've ben giving him too much business. So I'll just do it myself. Once i really looked at it, it isn't that big of a job. Hey, how is 150 coming along?
@@engin33r65 got all the parts I need sitting in the shop. George and I are planning a rebuild of it soon. I've been saying that forever, but stuff keeps popping up. It's coming though
@@ThatJeepAdventure Backing plates and hubs are at powder coater. Have to say, removing hub from the shaft was an event. My 20 ton press would have nothing to do with it. My 'ex' local parts store wanted $60 per axle, so went home to think it out. Ended up putting the axle assembly in the freezer for 48 hrs. then putting them back in press. Full press, heat to hub, hammers to shaft like your video, nothing happened. I turned to walk away and just about s#*@ my pants as the entire thing let loose. Funny thing is, even though I knew what would happen, other axle scared the s#*@ out of me again when it let loose. Anyway I think 48 hrs in the freezer and heat on the hub did the trick!
Great video man ! cant wait till you tear down that T 150 haha im in the middle of my transmission rebuild for my cj5 and itd would be great to see how you rebuild yours before i start throwing money at mine haha also im probably gonna have to rebuild my transfer case off the t150 are you planning on doing the same ?
Haha it will be my first time doing it, but I have some knowledgeable people to help guide me through it. I’ll make sure to get the whole process for you! About the Tcase, I’m not sure yet. I’m going to inspect it once I remove it from the transmission. Keeping my fingers crossed that I don’t have to touch it lol
@@ThatJeepAdventure thanks buddy I appreciate that alot ! Because my dad and I, are taking on this project and never have done a transmission rebuild or t case before but good luck ! Haha also curious on where you'll get the rebuild kit for yours bc it's very difficult to find one
Haven’t really gotten that far yet. I’m hoping to source some parts from a buddy who has a warehouse full of CJ parts. Hoping to at least get some gears from him and then I’ll find synchros and bearings online most likely
Enjoying your videos and am really looking forward to you working on the T150, but why did you use a grinding wheel on the axles instead of a wire wheel? It looks like you are removing enough metal to take them slightly out of round.
Just ordered my trans rebuild kit, so it is on the way. I started with the wire wheel and it was just going to take way too long. Sandblaster would be a nice thing to have too. They are slightly out of round in a couple of places, but after repainting and all that, you can’t really even tell. Wire wheel would have been the better solution probably
Interesting to watch! Thanks for sharing. I have a '65 CJ5, starting to rebuild it. Question, though: what's that adapter plate you put on the end of the axle for?
On the factory design the brake backing plate is the retainer for the axle shaft. This means that to pull the shaft or change the wheel bearing, the entire drum brake setup has to be removed. With the adapter kit, it allows the axles to slide out without tearing the brakes down.
@@ThatJeepAdventure not in particular, i just use my dads old one hes had for years, it looks like a big tank on a hand cart. im sure you're looking way more into it than pulling somehting out of the back of a garage lol
Had a co worker cut a wire with a knife, slipped knife went through his upper lip into his nose. We all had a good laugh after he got out of the hospital. Yea shit happens. be careful.
Just replaced the old two-piece axles in my CJ7 with one piece, hope my brakes go back together as easily as yours!! Good video!
Hands down best most patient video on this I’ve seen. Great job buddy tremendous amount of help and info
Thanks for watching! Glad it helped
Great videos, me and my 10 year old are doing a 76 cj7 . Great Motivation and how to videos.
Very cool! I did that with my dad as a kid too. Thanks for following along
Great in depth video. Like cutting the bearing race to get to the inner. I'm trying to replace the bearings on a one piece axle shafts. They are too close to the back plate for me to get anything behind. I pressed the collar off fine. I think I'll go down that road on the bearing. Nice clear shots of getting the brakes back together.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for your video, it helped me out after having the brakes torn apart for several months on my AMC 20.
Great to hear!
good video. best one so far on rebuilding the 20. since most are used in off road applications it is recommended that you use a small amount of silicone sealant between the mounting flange and retainer and dust seal. not to retain grease but to keep as much water out of the area as possible since the secondary seal is locater toward the outside. also bolts should be in the drum area and nuts on the outside.
Thanks Man! You just squared me away on backing plate removal.
Haha awesome! Glad to help
Thanks for the AWESOME video! The Jeep community is awesome when it comes to supporting the Jeep Junkie habit of DIY. I’m tearing down my 78 CJ as we speak up here in good old NY (upstate) Thank George too!
Very cool! Hope to get more videos of the build up soon. Been so dang busy
your the first video that I have seen were you actually install the bearing in the correct way. so many videos on you tube show the bearing installed backwards . wonder how many lost there axle that way. thanks.
Haha I have people message me all the time saying I put it in backwards.
Thanks for the videos!!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching
Great refresher video.. gonna replace my rear axles when it starts to warm up outside
Thank you!
Nice work on the video! I am at the leaf spring stage of an 81 CJ- 5 so its great to watch the next steps. Looking forward to seeing the axles put on the frame.
Heck yea! It’s awesome to hear how many other people are elbows deep in a project too. Thanks for following along
MAN HANDS at 15:20! Great job. Cool to see the original set-up. Mine has had 1-pc axles since before I got it.
Great job and presentation. Thanks for sharing. Mike
Thanks for watching!
Great video. Learned a ton.
Good to hear!
Appreciate the video’s man! I know they will definitely help me with my build!👍🏻
Thank you for following! Good luck on your project
That Jeep Adventure thank you man! Think I watched all your rebuild video’s you have up! I’m looking forward to seeing what’s next that you repair,upgrade, maintenance!
thanks man. putting an amc 20 in our '49 jeepster.
Omg this guys knows a shytload. i need to suscribe to learn something. Great job
Thank you! I’m still learning too, but happy to pass what I know along.
Bro. Super video. Subscribed.
Thanks for watching!
Great video man!
Thank you. 🙌🏼
Hey its me again the BARBERCHOP. Just taking it easy and checking out videos. to dang hot outside 98 and humid, I thumbs up on the build. but oops you screwed the pooch on the brakes. Remember primary in front secondary in back. You put the primary shoe (smaller show) on the back and Secondary in the front. It will brake great in reverse. Secondary shoe is all ways against the Anchor pin at the top. were it gets wedged between the anchor pin and the drum. Sorry
Excellent walk thru!
Thank you! 🤘🏽
I seen your post on Stoney Lonesome. Are you in Alabama?
Actually in South MS, but we ride Alabama a lot
Got 2 T-150s that need rebuilding so really looking forward to that video
Haha awesome! It’ll be all new to me, but I’ll try to learn all the ins and outs and pass the info along..
Nice work man,but you should always replace the wheel cylinders when you're in there.If they leak,all that work is for nothing
Definitely! It’ll be nice to have all fresh when it hits the road
Great job just found your videos. But dam give your hand tools some love! Take care of them and they will take care of you !!
Thank you! Haha my tools are nothing fancy at all. It gets the job done
Goals.
These axles are notoriously weak due to the 2 piece design. I didn't see you install the C-clip into the axle prior to installing the hub. If possible, upgrade to a 1 piece axle if any kind of off roading planned for this jeep. Nice job.
Great video!
Thank you!
Love u shirt!!! Lol
Silly question. How do I know how far to press the bearing in. Just mark the shaft where the old one was in place?
I always thought the benefit of a Dana 44 over an AMC 20 was a little exaggerated.
That's a Bricklin rear a axle too!
Haha that’s cool
Check out the Bricklin Story on the Automoments Channel. Also see all the Bricklins on the Bricklin HH channel.
oh let me know your technique for pressing the axle hat or crown off the axle on the AMC 20. It seems pretty tough on most of them. Just wondering if you had a good technique for that
Hi, great video. Where or how do I get the conversion kit for the backing plate upgrade, thanks in advance.
I have added the information to the description of the video. I also have a more detailed video of this product on my channel too. Check it out for more info. The title of it is "AMC20 Pull Axle Shaft WITHOUT Removing the Brakes | Brake Backing Adapter Kit Upgrade | Installation"
Great vid.... so are you done with the chilli peppers now anthony?? hehe
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@@ThatJeepAdventurejk, really like your vids tho man..
Thank you!
I think it's the longer shoe in the rear, shorter shoe in front.
I thought the trailing brake shoe with more lining went to the rear, and the one with less goes in the front. If that’s the case it appears that maybe the shoes are on backwards.
This might be a silly question, but why didn't you need axle shims? I'm in the middle of trying to rebuild my amc 20 on my 85 CJ7 and the the bearings and shims are driving me crazy trying to get the right tolerance. I think I'm just going to do the 1 piece conversion?? Is that a good idea?
Great video by the way. 👍
Great job. I hate drum brakes.
Thanks! Haha they arent my favorite either
Getting ready to order the Backing Adapter Kit. Plan to have my machinist modify my AMC 20 baking plates. What size hole is needed in the backing plate? I have my 150 finished and am just finishing up the rebuild of the AMC 304.
George’s plates are bored to 2.605. 2.60 is minimum.
@@ThatJeepAdventure Thanks. Machinist says he is too busy and can't get to it for a few weeks. Guess I've ben giving him too much business. So I'll just do it myself. Once i really looked at it, it isn't that big of a job. Hey, how is 150 coming along?
@@engin33r65 got all the parts I need sitting in the shop. George and I are planning a rebuild of it soon. I've been saying that forever, but stuff keeps popping up. It's coming though
@@ThatJeepAdventure Backing plates and hubs are at powder coater. Have to say, removing hub from the shaft was an event. My 20 ton press would have nothing to do with it. My 'ex' local parts store wanted $60 per axle, so went home to think it out. Ended up putting the axle assembly in the freezer for 48 hrs. then putting them back in press. Full press, heat to hub, hammers to shaft like your video, nothing happened. I turned to walk away and just about s#*@ my pants as the entire thing let loose. Funny thing is, even though I knew what would happen, other axle scared the s#*@ out of me again when it let loose. Anyway I think 48 hrs in the freezer and heat on the hub did the trick!
@@engin33r65 haha that's awesome. Glad you got it finally.
love these vids. that's the 2 piece axle shaft?
Yup retained the 2 part shaft to keep cost down since this Jeep will be a road queen for the most part
Great video man ! cant wait till you tear down that T 150 haha im in the middle of my transmission rebuild for my cj5 and itd would be great to see how you rebuild yours before i start throwing money at mine haha also im probably gonna have to rebuild my transfer case off the t150 are you planning on doing the same ?
Haha it will be my first time doing it, but I have some knowledgeable people to help guide me through it. I’ll make sure to get the whole process for you! About the Tcase, I’m not sure yet. I’m going to inspect it once I remove it from the transmission. Keeping my fingers crossed that I don’t have to touch it lol
@@ThatJeepAdventure thanks buddy I appreciate that alot ! Because my dad and I, are taking on this project and never have done a transmission rebuild or t case before but good luck ! Haha also curious on where you'll get the rebuild kit for yours bc it's very difficult to find one
Haven’t really gotten that far yet. I’m hoping to source some parts from a buddy who has a warehouse full of CJ parts. Hoping to at least get some gears from him and then I’ll find synchros and bearings online most likely
Enjoying your videos and am really looking forward to you working on the T150, but why did you use a grinding wheel on the axles instead of a wire wheel? It looks like you are removing enough metal to take them slightly out of round.
Just ordered my trans rebuild kit, so it is on the way. I started with the wire wheel and it was just going to take way too long. Sandblaster would be a nice thing to have too. They are slightly out of round in a couple of places, but after repainting and all that, you can’t really even tell. Wire wheel would have been the better solution probably
How can I tell what year my AMC 20 is short width torx bolts on cover,cj5 or 7
Need a press to take the bearings off
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Interesting to watch! Thanks for sharing. I have a '65 CJ5, starting to rebuild it. Question, though: what's that adapter plate you put on the end of the axle for?
On the factory design the brake backing plate is the retainer for the axle shaft. This means that to pull the shaft or change the wheel bearing, the entire drum brake setup has to be removed. With the adapter kit, it allows the axles to slide out without tearing the brakes down.
@@ThatJeepAdventure is this adapter for sale? Link? Thanks for the video!
what about the shims?
Cleaned them and reinstalled
If your Jeep came with a 44, great....but if it came with a 20, and you were a reasonable wheeler, it would be fine.
It’s definitely gonna be plenty for this little Jeep! Glad to hear more first hand experience from a 20 owner. Cheers!
buy or make a sand blaster, youll never go back to wire wheels and such
I definitely need to pull the trigger on that. Any suggestions or preferences on them? I have been watching videos on them some
@@ThatJeepAdventure not in particular, i just use my dads old one hes had for years, it looks like a big tank on a hand cart. im sure you're looking way more into it than pulling somehting out of the back of a garage lol
Is it just me or did the bearing and race go in backwards? I'm looking at the 12:30 ish time mark.
No, this is actually proper orientation for the AMC20. Check out the dismantling process that starts at around 6:40
@@ThatJeepAdventure thanks, I'm not sure what I was thinking!
Had a co worker cut a wire with a knife, slipped knife went through his upper lip into his nose. We all had a good laugh after he got out of the hospital. Yea shit happens. be careful.
oh get a set of break tools before you knock your teeth out with them pair of plyers.
Lol funny you say that... kinda punched myself in the face messing with the hydro steer. Luckily my hand was over the pliers