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- In the past, the Japanese and Asian scenes have been far ahead of the rest of the world in terms of controller optimization. This is what sparked the whole hitbox = "cheatbox" debate last year. With the upcoming release of Street Fighter 6, they are once again ahead of the game with leverless controllers. Because of how important drive impact and parry are going to be, the physical location of the buttons on your controller could mean everything. Nephew explains all of this in detail and a possible workaround in this video.
Street Fighter 6, the next game in the iconic series, will release in 2023! Take part in the Fighting Ground, which focuses on the classic fighting game experience with modes from previous games in the series. Two new modes will be available alongside: World Tour, an immersive single-player story experience, and Battle Hub, which will further expand the scope of player communication and engagement. Your Moment. Your Fight.
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Another thing you can try is instead of having the parry and drive impact as the right-most two buttons (L1 and L2), set them as the left-most 2 non -direction buttons (square and X).
Slide the rest of the buttons to the right, and now you can just play normally but with quicker pointer finger access to parry and DI
This is what i was thinking recently. Gonna see how both feel as i didn't think of nephews layout.
that is the exact layout that I thought of back when I started playing streetfighter five, I’m not really sure why it isn’t more common
It's what I'm using in 6,works like a charm
great idea, i'm gonna try it, thanks!
similar to what chris schmidt did in marvel. very clever idea.
I think moving one button from the 4th column to the thumb is just smart. I always felt that the 4th column is less accessible with your weak pinky and i press these buttons less as a result.
I come from tekken, we only use 4 buttons lol
@@kickass2733 That's because Tekken doesn't have Light, Medium, Heavy version of attacks. Right?
@@metricrl_correct it has
left punch right punch
left kick right kick
I've been training myself to be able to hit the buttons on the right with my ring finger. It's insane how weak your pinky finger is.
Keyboard players watching people catching up
Yup it's actually hilarious I remember being made fun of by my friends back in the day for playing on keyboard.. look at the FGC now 😂
The keyboard issue is simply not viable at tournaments because you can’t simply connect them to consoles.
@@peterevans2854 Doesn‘t PS5 have native keyboard support?
@@gofuckyourself9445 As a *keyboard* ...
I think it's great that the system is not only flexible but that also works really well on a pad, which is how 99% of players will be playing even if almost none of the pros are.
Menard plays pad tho and he's the goat
Based on the recent tournament majors, pad was pretty much the dominant hardware with leverless behind it. I think pad will easily be the counter to any leverless nonsense because of price and availability.
@@originalscreenname44 The problem is that the pad wears out very quickly and, in the long run, is more expensive.
Punk plays pad also. Controllers aren’t magically going to make you better. No matter how expensive it is or the amount of buttons it has. I got a Kitsune a few weeks ago; and I love it in SF6, but I also play MK1 and I will NEVER be able to not play on pad in that game. Fucking dedicated block button lol
Cool that you came up with new "tech" pre release LOL. Very smart to utilize the input priority system to keep your right hand available for everything. Personally, I'm a sanwa lever/6 button layout boomer so I'll be fine just using my middle finger for MP+MK and ring finger for HP+HK. Been doing the same thing for the universal actions in SF3/4/5 and I'll just boomer it up more lol.
mp+mk sure with the thumb but hp+hk is so awkward
I simply moved my punches and kicks over to the right one, and then moved the final column inputs to the front set of buttons. That means drive impact and drive parry are accessible with my pointer finger and thumb
I did same thing on guilty gear strive XD
I think this is the correct answer.
Clever! Definitely doing this. Just got a 400 dollar custom hitbox and seeing the extra button controllers gives me a lot of buyer's remorse. This will do the trick for a while!
at least urs isnt hideous
I did the same thing when I first got to play 6, so we're gonna have to split royalties on the layout patent. the default layout immediately felt backwards to me in regards to those two buttons when I first played, to the point I thought my controller was configured wrong until I realized it was supposed to be like that.
literally same lol
Having a 10 button layout using a fight pad will be really useful
Yo! Thanks for explaining this, Neph. I was confused as hell when I saw the pic of his layout. Guess it's time to whip out the hole saw and dive into the old box o' buttons.
smart. I was parrying with both mediums & wasn't using the parry button at all because of its location. the Nephew layout seems like a great fix!
That sounds like you're a noob. The traditional location is completely fine.
The JP player controllers reminds me of my Frame1, which has a remappable right thumb cluster for smash. It's very useful to have action buttons spread out among all of your fingers.
For the longest time I thought some of these innovative controllers were cool, but lately I've been thinking all of these 11 button boxes are getting really ugly
If having more than 8 non-directional buttons that all have unique functions isn’t already illegal then what is capcom even doing
I don’t think having a standardized layout is necessary though
Genius. I will be using the Nephew tech from here on out. Thanks man.
I switched parry and DI on my stick the moment I started playing the beta. Mostly because of drive rush.
For the past 10 years we have moved towards what is basically a keyboard-styled controller with a Spacebar button. It is funny considering that 10 years ago FG players said that keyboard is bad and stick is the norm
Yep. We just didn't know due to most keyboards not having sufficient n-key rollover, plus the fact we didn't consider space bar for up.
Plus the fact you can't really double tap on keyboard buttons. The 6 or 8 large buttons on the right help with input consistency.
@@Un1234l you absolutelly can double tap keyboard buttons, wdym?
@@Nobody-su9km
How are you double tapping keyboard buttons? Do we even have the same definition of double tapping? Using two fingers to quickly tap the same button rapidly.
That is a crazy twitter tag that was trending in USA @5:32
yep. I changed parry to top right during the closed beta. feels way better for me.
What's the name of the controller
The nephew tech will rain supreme!!!!!!! Just wait it's only a matter of time before they make everything even by setting a specific layout, because they can't have people be at a disadvantage in a tournament setting, and this definitely gives a big enough advantage to warrant such changes.
nephew tech came thru ngl I was only using 6 buttons LMAO
I never understood why the flatboxes copyed the right hand button layout verbatim.
Even back when i played arcade, I always hated having to slide my hand to hit the 3rd or 4th row (depending on the board) or use my pinky.
Imo the action buttons should be alliegned vertically in two rows, so you have the whole width of your hand to hit all the buttons without sliding or wiggling your hand in weird positions.
My fingers are always glued to L1 & L2 on pad, I feel for the first time pad players have more advantages than stick/hitbox. Feels real fluid for me and precise. I have a battlebeaver controller with mouse click buttons too.
Do you have the battlebeaver dpad replacement too? How do the buttons compare to stock?
@@CutShadows honestly, I’ve been switching back and forth between ps5 and battlebeaver, came to the conclusion that mouse click dpad isn’t 100% accurate sometimes the input will drag or you’ll forget to take your finger off and it’ll click twice and give the wrong input. After finally breaking in my ps5 controller (building the callus on my finger) I think it’s the perfect pad for fighting games. Sf6 seems to have been made with pad in mind, having a single button for drive impact and parry are ideal. I switched L1 and L2 so I party with L1 and L2 is drive impact. If you’re still keen on split dpad, don’t go for mouse click, split buttons are great, but the clicky buttons are much better for triggers or your other buttons. I use the split dpad especially when playing charge characters. Hope this helped 👌🏻
We had too much access to SF6 before launch. The fiends have figured out waaaaay too much
What the hell is ln your trending tab my guy 💀💀💀
Okay this video made me realize that I hold my fight stick weird because I always have my pinky over both parry AND drive impact... Does anyone else hold their stick like this?
So with the button setup of
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8
I press buttons 1, 2, and 3 with my index, middle, and ring fingers.
I press 5, 6, and 7 with my thumb (reaching under my palm like I'm doing crossovers on a piano).
I press 4 with my pinkie, and I press 8 with the heel of my palm. Kind of like, the meat underneath my lowest pinkie joint.
People have said I have really fast parries playing the SF6 demo, and I never considered that most people are moving their hands to access the lower row of buttons. I just play like this naturally and never realized it was odd.
You can totally access this tech without any special equipment or button mapping. You just have to be a little weirdo.
Thats how I play except I press 8 with my pinky too
Respect the Nephewtech.
I would believe Gachikun personally drilled these 3 extra holes on the plate...there is a video on his channel...lol
I basically play like this on my keyboard, the buttons are smaller so i slam my finger to press 2 buttons
wait. so what about using a keyboard?. they let you map everyting ou want. whay would leverless be banned if more butons than a sp5 controler?
Exactly, my logic also same. Unless they want to ban keyboard, which is default controller of PC, then they cant ban those leverless.
There's no way they ban these controllers, if they did, they'd have to ban pad, and making only 1 layout for leverless would be dumb, because of people like alex myers and ultra david, who play on weird leverless controllers for ergonomic and hand pain reasons.
I mean, they can simply say they don't want you to use this kind of controller. They don't rly need a reason.
Ok so just use keyboard instead? They are pc controller and u can basically achieve this too by binding the moves to the place u want.
Unless capcom wants to ban keyboard too, which is default controller of PC.
5:10 damn that thing looks clean
Reading the FINE print with the cheatbox lol
To be honest i have similiar set up on my keyboard since beta " movements on wasd - di on space - parry on right ctrl - 6 action buttons on ins del -> page up down buttons - also i can set up x2 punch kicks for specific characters like kimberly's tiger knee air throw on arrow keys D: it's so fast and easy to use those short cuts . As you see i switch to keyboard just because of this , because after socd changes there is no reason to play on another leverless control to me , i believe that will be standart for every game sooner or later so it's better adept earlier.
I actually already do this by putting parry and drive impact of the left hand side of the fight stick and hitting them with my thumb. I've basically been doing similar stuff to this since Strive came out.
The super customizable control layouts along with modern controls is gonna go crazy
What's the leverless controller he is using as an example?
I'd like to know this as well
Any updates?
All of those changes to the button box layout are nice for offline tournaments, but for the game itself, pad is best. In particular, the Flydigi Apex 2 with smart use of reWASD PC software is the way to go. You can disable the up and down d-pad buttons and do them from some of the back buttons instead, giving yourself most of the button box advantages such as precise diagonals, motion input shortcuts, and up + down = up SOCD cleaning. And since it's a pad with a ton of buttons, you can fit all 13 buttons for Modern controls without having to do any combination inputs (6 face buttons, 1 Menu / Start button, and 6 shoulder buttons). You also have two sticks which are useful for the 3D areas. You can do stuff like put L3 run on the edge of the left stick, so you can easily run in 3D areas. Push the stick a small or medium amount to walk or jog.
You can use reWASD's shift feature to easily and quickly use all 15 or so of the training mode shortcuts. You hold one button down, and it will change the function of 15 buttons, making it possible.
There will be times when you need to switch to Classic to test something, but you can configure reWASD to swap to your Classic profile easily, along with re-enabling the full d-pad if you want it. The Apex 2 + reWASD combo is so good that the idea of playing on PS5 without it is revolting.
thank you for your comment
Also, everyone has access to these controllers. There are 3000 resources online. You can build a hitbox very easily, even if you do not have a 3d printer, etc.
Anyone else remember the first time Nephew patented this controller config? I think it was like this video ago.
I feel like this isn't applicable on a stick since stick buttons are 30mm instead of the usual 24mm
You can't really press DI and parry at the same time on a 30mm stick buttons
To be fair, upgrading a stick only costs a few dollars per button. You just add a button and daisy chain it. Doesnt require any PCB mods or anything like that. Just the cost of a new button.
I was considering swapping drive impact or parry and up on leverless
Bruh wtf is going on with that hashtag... nevermind I don't wanna know. Good video!
What's the leverless controller he's using?
NOT NEEDED!
just press both mediums with middle finger and press both heavies with ring finger.
Nephew tech is actually amazing
What ive been thinking is chaning the buttons orders to H L M Parry so that you can have your index and thumb always on both heavy p and k (which will give you DI) and your pinky stays on parry. Should be very easy to move your thumb over to grab too. Ive never had a hitbox tho but I ordered one recently. Ill try it out once I get it.
Nephew tech + D-Brake would be perfect
I'll definitely be giving this a try. I think at some point i will either mod my hitbox or build a new enclosure for it though, I always like more buttons.
my man went stright for that capcom 11 attacking button limit lol
I need to make more holes 🌝
Capcom can't ban the leverless layout, even banning extra buttons is hard because Dualsense pro has extra L3 and R3 at the bottom
So what I'm hearing as an analog stick player is left stick click = parry and right stick click = drive impact.
Thanks for the great idea that switching DI and Parry buttons, very helpful!
This is some interesting tech! Gonna have to come up with a catchy name for it though... I wonder who thought this up first? 🤔
I've wanted extra thumb keys on my hitbox for years (kind of crazy that there is one button shared by both thumbs when on pad you usually have four buttons your thumb is comfortably responsible for)! I do hope people start selling those sweet looking leverless controllers over here just for the sake of being able to actually use my thumbs when I play games
Or you can just press 2 medium buttons for parry. I mean, it's good to have more buttons and I'm working on putting more on my custom leverless but if you can't you will be fine using 2 buttons as defult.
I was originally planning to use two buttons for parry/DI, but this video kind of convinced me otherwise. Given how strict the timing is for perfect parries, you're making it even harder by adding the "requirement" of pushing both buttons on the correct frame. That is to say: even if there is some input leniency on parry input and you don't have to push both buttons on the exact same frame to get a parry command, if you push MP on the latter frame of the perfect parry 2-frame window but the MK is a frame later, you would get a normal parry... instead of the perfect parry that you would have gotten with a 1-button parry command.
i beaten this morning snake eyes using my keyboard thats how good is to use other devices then a fighstick or controller welcome to 2023 boys
I had the nephew layout since day one of the demo. I honestly thought it was default and had to check.
Also, there's the layout daigo uses with the parry button on the left of the left direction button to hit with the pinky. maybe parry with the thumb is easier, idk. Gladly, I use a custom all button controller so I can try out any layout :D
There's parries now? This reminds me of SF3 all over again. Can't wait to get the game.
8:00 he didn't get it, he probably just drilled the additional holes and snapped them in and did the wiring
Parrying a drive impact will end up being childs play
Oh hell naw. I didn't even notice that blocking attacks will deplete Drive Gauge. I'm just a beginner, but isn't this nonsense?
I moved my DI button above right arrow and DP above LP. And throw button between the right arrow and jump button. If I play classic or modern those buttons will remain the same. For modern all punch buttons become attack buttons and kick buttons become auto,special and super. The reason I moved the 4th column is because my pinky is just way too slow.
i've always preferred thumb over pinky, i play on the rightmost buttons
I had a feeling setting parry to one button would be ideal.😂
The Twitter hashtags?!
Ty for the new Nephew tech
I play with 10 year old 10$ logitech pc controller with 2 broken buttons.
Remember when people would get good at video games just by playing and practicing and not turning into fucking Inspector Gadget?
Good times.
Why not just get rid of throw button. We can all hit throw without a single button. Better to use for parry and the other for drive impact
One of the first things I changed cause I have that button mapped to dash in GGST, but I’ll let you claim the tech, mister pro champ of intel tourney, lol. Yea it’s so key to have access to parry and meter build in SF6.
I'm using my pinky for Parry because drive rush , I'm okay with slamming my face against both heavy punches for drive impact
You own a drill right? You can have this now...
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what the actual fuk...
It’s twitter, home of the worst degeneracy of the human imagination. I pretty much expect this at this point.
It USA, where all the lgbt and gender stuffs taking reign, and its twitter on the top of that where all those thing usually resides. So im not that surprised at this point.
Capcom should DEFINITELY not ban custom layouts. I think "number of assignable buttons must equal PS5 controller" is good. Cause I definitely assign commands to R3 in a lot of games as a pad player lol.
At high level D-Impact will be negligible but D-Rush & D-Parry will be the bread and butter.
If you own a 3d printer, you can customize your layout the way you want.
Capcom: Let's introduce modern control so people with less buttons like pads can enjoy the game.
Pro Gamers: I'm gonna add more buttons to my controller.
Wow that nephew tech is genius. Thank god I don't have to buy another Hitbox (or parry box?)
Its basically roman cancel into dash from Guilty Gear
Hey Nephew. Thanks for the videos! Where can I get a hitbox like yours? I think you should do a video on it and why you like it over the other hit boxes out there.
why does everyone have such a cramped layout?
5:08 What are the plugs covering the buttons you don't use called? Trying to see where I can buy some.
Been using this layout, nephew tech.
As soon as I saw how often you would need to DI and parry I knew people would start macroing their buttons and drilling holes/changing button layouts on their sticks lol. I know Tokido was experimenting with this in SF5 with I believe Boxer with the TAP button, but I think the last time you REALLY saw this level of macroing was SF4 when people would macro the select button to get select button plinks for 1f links with LP, this was especially crucial for characters like Ibuki where to get those jab tsurugi loops you would need to do very tight 1f links with stand jab. I think there was that marvel 3 player who played C Viper that had his stick banned for macroing multiple directions to a button to get perfect tiger knees. Funny enough he could use a Crossup now and get similar results.
I'm still going to be doing the plain old method of pressing 2 buttons because I'm a stubborn old man, until I feel it's absolutely necessary to change. My hands are hovering over all 6 buttons all the time and I constantly shift my hands around where generally I get button combinations quickly.
*What's the model of this controller? Manufacturer? More info?*
THANKS NEPHEW
Are keyboards banned because they have more buttons, or is it only how many buttons you bind?
Ironically I've been using the same layout, but I started doing it in Soul Calibur V (which does allow the same button to be bound to different buttons). It was much easier sliding my thumb up then across for Siegfried's iAGA. You can easily just drill a new hole through your top plate to do so, that's what I did years ago.
Sorry i had this copy right the day demo came out.😆
What are the names of the hitboxes they look dope asf.
Pls
I already do this with the Hori Octa, you can map two buttons to the l1 and l2
I'd say anyone thinking they're going to need all those buttons is behind the times, since having access to 1-button, frame-1 specials and supers means playing Classic is like needlessly hamstringing yourself.
It's not going to matter if people are using modern controls that shit is worse than cheating itself
This was the Uncle layout first. Nephew stole this from Uncle