I've been mulling over a SFF build and ran across this case during my research. Of course I came to Leo's channel looking for a review and as always, was not disappointed.
Im glad you still gave it an 8, since a lot of the cons you gave are just part of all small form factor cases (smaller motherboard, PSU, thinner fans) cases, but Im also glad you included them as I find your reviews are very beginner friendly, and a lot of new people to building computers wouldn't understand that smaller cases need very particular parts.
Jonsbo D31, ASUS Prime 201. Just the right size allowing for full fat components and fewer compromises. I rather have more space for GPU than a 360 AIO.
@@ghost_of_m403it depends on the market. Offer a product that has a specific use case. All this offers over the Meshlicious is no PCIe riser, and a 360 Radiator instead of a 280.
@@svn5994 They all hit that GPU size wall pretty hard. The 2000D can fit pretty much everything 4080 and under, many 4090s, though I believe IIRC a couple of the super-fat 7900XTXs won't fit. But other than that you can put what you want in the case, which is a significant step up from the other vertical cases which either have to use the very low-power and smaller cards like the 60/70 series or get the one specific model of higher end card that will fit (which tends to cost more $$$ than just getting this case and a more regular card). Other vertical cases get stuck on one specific card fitting, or they let you have GPU size but then you have to go wimpy on the CPU because you can't fit a good cooler in there anymore.
You missed two important advantages of this case over most other (all other?) SFF cases: Huge air coolers can be installed for true silence (no high pitched whiney pump noise of the AIO, no water noise). And: the GPU is directly connected to the motherboard and does not need an adapter cable which can cause all kinds of trouble.
Fan and AIO wiring won't be an issue with Corsair's new iCUE Link ecosystem. I hope they release a new version of the 2000D RGB model with the Link fans.
was thinking the same, you could buy the current case with the rgb slim fans and buy the icue link rad, then when they release the slim link fans you would be there ready
I love that it does not include fans, because we're just going to buy our own and replace them anyway. I wish more cases and cpu coolers had a cheaper without fans option.
yeah, my thinking exactly, one slot more (4 instead of 3) and it's mATX, also if you rotate the PSU an ATX one could fit perfectly, if I wanted mini-ITX i'd go sub 20L with the sandwich or pizza box layout
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III fat radiator go in there? gets you the fan on the pump head for the doohickeys too, and a antiflex frame?and the no fan wires - in the braid?
Engaging, entertaining, and educational; it can only be Leo; more of these interesting and unusual cases, please! I'll be very interested to see an extended test of this case: unlike the Silverstone FT series cases I have previously used, the GPU faceplate is downwards, so I wonder how that will affect long-term GPU cooling? I didn't see any cables coming out of the bottom when the completed system was on your bench. How does the case fare when you load the rear / bottom panel? Say 3 or 4 video cables, speaker cables, and a number of USB cables. How much room is there for video cables with larger plugs (optical cables have transceivers)? BTW if you want to mount more than one 2.5" drive, try using sticky pads to stack them! PS As it's a vertical case, how about a fully passive build? :)
There is support for a 3.5” drive you just need a 120mm to 3.5” Fractal Design Universal Adapter Type-A. It goes right over the PSU internal enclosure.
It seems an air cooler might be best for this case as most tubes are long for an aio and you wouldn't want to risk any of possible damage. Also for the RGB model I know it comes with a fan controller, does it allow for more fans to be plugged in or would you need one of those nodes?
I really like the styling of the case, but at ~24 liters, it's not exactly what I'd call small form factor ITX case. If it weren't a vertical case, I imagine the extra spacing at the bottom for cables could have been removed to reduce the overall volume and thus make it smaller. Excellent review!
it's not SFF by the arbitrary definition of 20 liters, that said it still gives you a lot of hardware compatibility with a 360mm AIO and support for the recent chonkers of GPUs.
i was waiting for something like this to showup, wish it was matx though. keeping the foot print small while increasing the height . great for desk space optimisation.
It is an interesting layout, I was actually thinking about modifying a mini itx to fit/attach a 360 AIO. For thos size, however, I think non sfx psu should be an option and maybe also the possibility to place the case in horizontal position. As it is it seems a bit too cumbersome.
I just ordered this case .... Gonna do an insane custom loop! As for the the temp increase with the additional fans I would assume with all 6 fans being intake & being at a 90 degree angle from each other I believe it's creating a vortex inside the case trapping the heat. I believe if you can manage to install an additional fan at the top for exhausting the heat temps would drop drastically.
If there was more room behing the motherboard tray, room for normal fans in the front, vented top with possible fan mount and a cleaner internal way to route the power cable of the psu... like the case has the room inside to make it...
Mine is arriving next week. I wish they had a teeny bit more space to accomodate a 3,5 to 4 slot GPU. I wonder why most sff cases restrict the GPU length to either 320mm or just 2 to 3 slots if they support longer GPUs. Why can't we have both?
Small Form mean to be SMALL so they are not designed for housing thick gpus at all. It all ruiend by the xxx GPU manufacturs, or buyers who always believe bigger is better and thinking to put a 300w+ monster into a small case regardless unpleasent noise, extra cash for fans, itx board, sfx psu etc. Anyway, if they do it larger then why not matx? There are some better design on Dan C4 that leaving thick GPU on top, Or Fractual Design ridge leaving a whole chamber for GPUs, but still, thinking original Dan a4 is such a small and delicate case and it is getting 4 litter bigger and similar to the size of NR200...
@@zhy199333 The point being this case is not really SFF at all considering the cases under 15L having better cable management and GPU options. If they went large they could easily have added another 0,5cm clearance for a thicker GPU.
@@camotech1314 Reference cards are usually not easy to find. Also the FE Nvidia cards are usually scalped up here almost instantly and not worth paying extra.
Nice one Leo as always, I like & don't like the case, Good to see no riser cable needed that saves money, I don't like all the cables & the 360 on the side, I can Just Imagine how the cables be if you go for the 3 fan ARGB with lighting node core Option, that be 6x fan cables & 2 x cables coming from the node core. & 3 x fans x 6 cables coming from a 360 corsair Rad & other cables It be a 'Worzel Cable Gummidge' I like to see a TG Clear Side panel to show off the Hardware & have a silent AIO like a Arctic liquid freezer 240mm that perform as good as most of the 360s. But they seem to have designed with H55, H60, H75, H80i, H90, H100i, H105, H110i, H115i, H150i in mind. so thick rad like the Arctic 240mm may not fit.
Love the look of this case but the cost of SFX PSUs pushed me into getting an Asus AP201 case where my ATX PSU would be comfy. I have to disagree with the use of RGB fans on the radiator and would have put them on the front of the case instead. I think the new 30mm fans would have been a better fit.
Tube orientation isn't an issue; it's Pump vs. Loop height. As long as the Pump isn't the highest point in the loop it's fine; the Rad is higher than the Pump in this setup so it's all good.
nice review, I wonder however why the legs are up from the radiator. With the cpu below there is a fair chance of pump gargle, less performance and reduced pump lifespan, or is there no space to place it with the legs down?
Pump noises and issues are the result of positioning, not orientation as such. When using an AIO you want the Pump - where ever it is built in - to NOT be the highest point in the loop; as long as you do this most AIOs will be completely fine. In this video the Pump is in the CPU block (that is where Corsair puts their AIO pumps), so having the tubes up and the top of the Rad higher than the CPU block is a good thing.
@@ParagonFury Since most pumps I've seen are of the centrifugal type, the most important is to have a fully filled inlet leg to ensure no cavitation will occure. Also AIO's are not 100% filled. Even though the offical defination of cavitation referes only to vapor pressure, the eventually excess air off factory causes the same issue. The situation differs when you use a membrane pump (like an aquarium pump). In this case with legs up there is a fair chance of pulling air into the system as gasses will collect at the highest point. By turning it over the static pressure avoids that possibility.So for me orientation matters, but we don't need to agree on that 🙂, just explaining where i'm coming from. See also this one from Steve th-cam.com/video/BbGomv195sk/w-d-xo.html who explains more situations.
I wonder why adding front fans reduce noise? Would it be because the AIO fans run at a slower rpm with better airflow when the front fans are installed? But again, wouldn't the AIO fans run at full speed during CB23 regardless of front fan installed or not? Would appreciate any insight.
It's mildly annoying, that just a few design changes could make this case an ultimate PC tower case. Reverse internal design to plug everything from top, make 360 AIO mount on the opposite side of GPU instead on top of it, add 2-3 cm to support 4 slot GPUs, add 2 cm to fit standard 120 fans instead of slims, change PSU position to improve overall airflow, redesign mesh to not choke some components as some tests shown to happen, and maybe few minor changes to cable management. Sometimes I think that they are intentionally designing gimped designs to just keep having an excuse to make a new case instead of making one excellent product... or they just suck at design.
good review , form my POV mate i see that it could be customable for an ATX, if the PS will be moved below under grafic card we wil have space for an ATX on top , few cm of the Grafic card to the fraem and all will fit
Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't it be better mounting the radiator with the hoses at the bottom instead of on top? Isn't there air in the AIO to some extend?
Tube orientation isn't an issue; it's Pump vs. Loop height. As long as the Pump isn't the highest point in the loop it's fine; the Rad is higher than the Pump in this setup so it's all good.
Was hoping to see how restrictive the mesh panels are (temps with them removed). I suppose the reason to only leave room for slim fans in the front is to market their new fans... Deshrouding the GPU and installing some 120 mm fans on the back could be nice.
Would a 4090 Fe fit inside? Neweggs website says 320mm 3 slot, corsairs website says 320 in one location and 365mm in another location. Do you think noctua fans would a better choice for fans?
That is so interesting, the 2000D from Origin has the mobo flipped being above the psu and is on the opposite side (right instead of left). That means the cables going into the mobo come out the top making it much easier to plug things in, plus you get an extra 120mm fan on top. I wonder why they flipped things around for the normal Corsair version, the pump on the Origin version is still below the top point of the rad as well. Being honest, I like the Origin version more since it isn't asymmetrical like you can see at 18:43 and the cables are much easier to get to once the pc is all put together since you just have to remove the top bit and have full access. I would guess it would also have slightly better thermals since it has that top exhaust fan.
@@JubJub958 I don’t know I just read that having the gpu upside down can cause performance issues. That’s probably why they changed it. There’s not really any cases with a top I/O
@@JubJub958 it’s just an issue in general for graphics cards. They don’t run well upside down. Vertical or horizontal is best. Not sure what issues you are referring too. But it’s not tied to a specific gpu.
Great video - thank you for the insights! Owning an NZXT H1 I was saddened to see the following : The orientation of the mainboard and the resulting location of it’s IO panel is more than a bit annoying. I had to work with an otherwise unnecessary USB hub making my overall rather small setup - a lot of work and unpleasant to maintain and not something I will continue using - sadly.
It makes sense because what happens when you add the additional fans is they introduce enough cool airflow to where it brings temps down. Any other fans inside the system are able to run at much lower RPM while running cooler, especially since the only fans that were in the case were dealing with the resistance of having to go through the radiator fins.
I find it a little disheartening that when using an AIO with a cooler that has a display screen like the H100i Elite, it gets blocked by the positioning of the Radiator and fans thus rendering it's functionality moot. I would like to see if it can handle a GPU the size of the Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX.
For that size I'm surprised it can't fit up to a 4 slot gpu. Its as itx as the tower 100. Spend a bit more and the meshroom s case is a better buy. Why couldn't corsair release their actual itx case. Anything over 20 liters in volume shouldn't be limited to a sfx powersupply or itx motherboard.
I just did a build in this case, there are no airflow issues at all but you have to know how to build a mini itx to begin with. If this is your first one, you need to study first else the wiring will screw your airflow up but that is not the fault of this case. As it stands without being able to show you my benchmarks casuse YT comments suck, under ultra settings gaming load on Red Dead 2, my CPU never touches 50C (Ryzen 7 7800x3d). GPU is an RTX 4080 and again no heat issues at all. If I could change one thing about this case it is the receiver deck. You have to route the wires in to the case through an open hole at the bottom of the case. That is just a lazy design.
@@KitGuruTechI gave up on buying this case because, basically, I didn't like the look, the mess of cables inside the case, the position of the rear panel (makes it difficult to use), the position of the front panel (makes it possible to bump into my plugged pen drives and dongles), the limitation for using only mini-ITX (this is terrible and incompatible with the size of the tower), and temperatures. I really expected more. Thank you again.
Does anyone know if this will fit a m-DTX board in? It's a shame they didn't route the power cable on the inside tbh, but I like the case. Im considering this as my H210i is now restricting me on GPU choice given that the front of that case houses the AOI. I'm limited to just over 280mm
I have a 4000D Airflow in white and overall its been a really nice case. However due to my huge motherboard heatsink I cannot put anything larger than a 240 AIO at the top. So radiator support is iffy. Also vertical GPU support is non existent, as its way too close to the glass... Wish they gave it 1 more inch of width. I'd like an ITX system but I also want more than 2 M.2 drive slots and that simply wont happen. I have 4 slots in my current B550 Unify board. This 2000D is a fiddly case.
"The bigger the number. The bigger the case" NONONO Corsair has a 1000D look at the size of that thing you could probably fit 3 of the 2000D cases in it and it is larger than the 7000D and you can put TWO ROWS of quad 140mm fans in the front AND the top and a second mini ITX PC in the back
I've been mulling over a SFF build and ran across this case during my research. Of course I came to Leo's channel looking for a review and as always, was not disappointed.
While I appreciate Leo mentioning the issue of cables at the bottom of the case, I would have liked to have seen it as part of the build process.
For some reason, I enjoy Leo's case reviews a lot. This case looks quiet good, I might consider it for my next system, I really like the layout.
lol
Im glad you still gave it an 8, since a lot of the cons you gave are just part of all small form factor cases (smaller motherboard, PSU, thinner fans) cases, but Im also glad you included them as I find your reviews are very beginner friendly, and a lot of new people to building computers wouldn't understand that smaller cases need very particular parts.
This thing is huge for an ITX case. I don’t really get why they didn’t just make it a little bigger and allow it to run a m-atx board.
This is always the debate with designing for ITX. Just a LITTLE BIT bigger and you could have ATX PSU and m-ATX boards for sure.
Jonsbo D31, ASUS Prime 201. Just the right size allowing for full fat components and fewer compromises. I rather have more space for GPU than a 360 AIO.
@@ghost_of_m403it depends on the market. Offer a product that has a specific use case. All this offers over the Meshlicious is no PCIe riser, and a 360 Radiator instead of a 280.
Just get a SSUPD Meshroom which is 15 liters (9 liters less than this) and supports FULL ATX mobos and PSU's.
@@marinipersonal don't forget that mini-ITX motherboards are WAY more expensive than mATX
"Festooned" was not a word I expected to hear in a case review. Well done!
Can’t even say how excited I am about this. Fans galore on all sides and 360mm rad support? Heck yes
Bro you are seriously the Giga Chad of case reviews. Every single time spot on, nothing missed, explained everything simply, youre just the goat!
I bought the black version with the RGB fans who has a bundle with a power supply with it for only 220 pounds.
Honestly this PC case has it all for me. Enough storage and decent space for hardware. Its a win, I will be buying this for sure!
Literally every vertical case that isn't an H1 is better than this.
@@svn5994 They all hit that GPU size wall pretty hard. The 2000D can fit pretty much everything 4080 and under, many 4090s, though I believe IIRC a couple of the super-fat 7900XTXs won't fit. But other than that you can put what you want in the case, which is a significant step up from the other vertical cases which either have to use the very low-power and smaller cards like the 60/70 series or get the one specific model of higher end card that will fit (which tends to cost more $$$ than just getting this case and a more regular card).
Other vertical cases get stuck on one specific card fitting, or they let you have GPU size but then you have to go wimpy on the CPU because you can't fit a good cooler in there anymore.
Quite impressive they managed to get that fan thickness down to 16mm but surely it wouldnt be much good at moving air.
Great to see my favourite pc form factor, ITX, getting some love. Awesome case! I’d trade a couple extra degrees GPU temp for silence 🥰👍💪😇
Just try and manage the IO situation in real life.Not recommended
i love mini itx form factor. it has everything you need. no extra BS, no extra slots.
...but yeah, you need good case if you care about the temps.
@@cars291 Hubs. Problem solved.
I have one, it’s amazing for performance and desk space savings. 4090 and 13900k 360mm aio works very very well.
A 4090 in that case? You're a brave soul. Best of luck to you.
A 4090 eh? Appropriate since this case would be the exact same size as the FIRE EXTINGUISHER that you’ll need once your 4090 plug starts burning up. 😂
Would you mind posting your pc part picker build? I’m very interested in this and haven’t ever built in an ITX case before
@@Digikidthevoiceofreason Funny how the only ones that have burnt up are user error. 🤡
You missed two important advantages of this case over most other (all other?) SFF cases: Huge air coolers can be installed for true silence (no high pitched whiney pump noise of the AIO, no water noise). And: the GPU is directly connected to the motherboard and does not need an adapter cable which can cause all kinds of trouble.
Would like someone to try a down-draft CPU cooler with side fans as intake and front fans as exhaust in this case.
Fan and AIO wiring won't be an issue with Corsair's new iCUE Link ecosystem.
I hope they release a new version of the 2000D RGB model with the Link fans.
was thinking the same, you could buy the current case with the rgb slim fans and buy the icue link rad, then when they release the slim link fans you would be there ready
Love all the posing from Leo in the previous vids.
Nice to see Leo back to his grouchy self.
I love that it does not include fans, because we're just going to buy our own and replace them anyway. I wish more cases and cpu coolers had a cheaper without fans option.
Honestly most of his negatives apply to most small cases so overall it looks like a solid case.
I am considering it, I have been looking at Nzxt H1 V2 I want a computer for Lan partying with my friends.
Amazing amount of cooling for such a small case very innovative in their design.
Small? It is huge for an ITX case.
I haven't built a PC before, do the dongles/extensions come with the moitherboard?
yes
@@megadeth8592 thank you
I used to like Big cases now living a flat. I prefer Micro-ATX
How small is your flat that you can't fit a mid-tower in it? 😂😂
Should be mATX compatible at this size IMO.
yeah, my thinking exactly, one slot more (4 instead of 3) and it's mATX, also if you rotate the PSU an ATX one could fit perfectly, if I wanted mini-ITX i'd go sub 20L with the sandwich or pizza box layout
No.
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III fat radiator go in there?
gets you the fan on the pump head for the doohickeys too, and a antiflex frame?and the no fan wires - in the braid?
Engaging, entertaining, and educational; it can only be Leo; more of these interesting and unusual cases, please!
I'll be very interested to see an extended test of this case: unlike the Silverstone FT series cases I have previously used, the GPU faceplate is downwards, so I wonder how that will affect long-term GPU cooling?
I didn't see any cables coming out of the bottom when the completed system was on your bench. How does the case fare when you load the rear / bottom panel? Say 3 or 4 video cables, speaker cables, and a number of USB cables. How much room is there for video cables with larger plugs (optical cables have transceivers)?
BTW if you want to mount more than one 2.5" drive, try using sticky pads to stack them!
PS As it's a vertical case, how about a fully passive build? :)
There is support for a 3.5” drive you just need a 120mm to 3.5” Fractal Design Universal Adapter Type-A. It goes right over the PSU internal enclosure.
"The bigger the number, the bigger the case..." except for the 1000D. That case is gigantic (and feeakin heavy).
It seems an air cooler might be best for this case as most tubes are long for an aio and you wouldn't want to risk any of possible damage. Also for the RGB model I know it comes with a fan controller, does it allow for more fans to be plugged in or would you need one of those nodes?
Another good review Leo. Brutally honest as ever 🤘🏻
I really like the styling of the case, but at ~24 liters, it's not exactly what I'd call small form factor ITX case. If it weren't a vertical case, I imagine the extra spacing at the bottom for cables could have been removed to reduce the overall volume and thus make it smaller. Excellent review!
it's not SFF by the arbitrary definition of 20 liters, that said it still gives you a lot of hardware compatibility with a 360mm AIO and support for the recent chonkers of GPUs.
i wonder what would be the air cooling configuration will look like?..do we still be able to install 3 120mm fans?
Depends on the height of the cooler, but the side panel can take 3x 120mm fans or 2x 140mm fans.
You should review the new Dan case c4 mini itx Case. A proper mini itx case.
i was waiting for something like this to showup, wish it was matx though. keeping the foot print small while increasing the height . great for desk space optimisation.
T1 FF01 Meshroom/Meshlicious. Far better options.
@@svn5994 they have matx models?
Would like to have seen how it handles or looks like with cables... with 2 or 3 displayport cables etc...
I quite like it. Would be ideal in a tight spot beside a tv for instance.
It is an interesting layout, I was actually thinking about modifying a mini itx to fit/attach a 360 AIO. For thos size, however, I think non sfx psu should be an option and maybe also the possibility to place the case in horizontal position. As it is it seems a bit too cumbersome.
I just ordered this case .... Gonna do an insane custom loop! As for the the temp increase with the additional fans I would assume with all 6 fans being intake & being at a 90 degree angle from each other I believe it's creating a vortex inside the case trapping the heat. I believe if you can manage to install an additional fan at the top for exhausting the heat temps would drop drastically.
There is no way to install a fan at the top so disappointed in the case due to that reason
> Insane custom loop
> Single rad 24L case
@@svn5994 I’m doing dual or triple rad not sure yet
Corsair continues to be at the top of their game AGAIN! Drop the mic bitches!
Mediocre case.
If there was more room behing the motherboard tray, room for normal fans in the front, vented top with possible fan mount and a cleaner internal way to route the power cable of the psu... like the case has the room inside to make it...
Mine is arriving next week. I wish they had a teeny bit more space to accomodate a 3,5 to 4 slot GPU. I wonder why most sff cases restrict the GPU length to either 320mm or just 2 to 3 slots if they support longer GPUs. Why can't we have both?
Small Form mean to be SMALL so they are not designed for housing thick gpus at all. It all ruiend by the xxx GPU manufacturs, or buyers who always believe bigger is better and thinking to put a 300w+ monster into a small case regardless unpleasent noise, extra cash for fans, itx board, sfx psu etc.
Anyway, if they do it larger then why not matx? There are some better design on Dan C4 that leaving thick GPU on top, Or Fractual Design ridge leaving a whole chamber for GPUs, but still, thinking original Dan a4 is such a small and delicate case and it is getting 4 litter bigger and similar to the size of NR200...
Just buy a reference card and you be fine.
@@zhy199333 The point being this case is not really SFF at all considering the cases under 15L having better cable management and GPU options. If they went large they could easily have added another 0,5cm clearance for a thicker GPU.
@@camotech1314 Reference cards are usually not easy to find. Also the FE Nvidia cards are usually scalped up here almost instantly and not worth paying extra.
@@ajmatt I agree on this point. The designer of this case feels like someone doesn`t really use itx but fancy about the concept.
Not sure if they are dongles or just breakout cables Leo.
Give me mesh panels and forget about me. 10/10
Nice one Leo as always, I like & don't like the case, Good to see no riser cable needed that saves money, I don't like all the cables & the 360 on the side,
I can Just Imagine how the cables be if you go for the 3 fan ARGB with lighting node core Option, that be 6x fan cables & 2 x cables coming from the node core.
& 3 x fans x 6 cables coming from a 360 corsair Rad & other cables
It be a 'Worzel Cable Gummidge'
I like to see a TG Clear Side panel to show off the Hardware & have a silent AIO like a Arctic liquid freezer 240mm that perform as good as most of the 360s.
But they seem to have designed with H55, H60, H75, H80i, H90, H100i, H105, H110i, H115i, H150i in mind. so thick rad like the Arctic 240mm may not fit.
Thanks for the review.
If we cut the PSU shroud, is it possible to fit an ATX power supply onto it?
Love the look of this case but the cost of SFX PSUs pushed me into getting an Asus AP201 case where my ATX PSU would be comfy. I have to disagree with the use of RGB fans on the radiator and would have put them on the front of the case instead. I think the new 30mm fans would have been a better fit.
This vs Alta G1M (also reviewed by Leo)?
The G1M could have definitely improved with more fan support.
what would you say about the calbing now that corsair has announced the icue link
not too happy with the rad orientation with the tubes upp, can it be flipped or do they HAVE to be up?
Tube orientation isn't an issue; it's Pump vs. Loop height. As long as the Pump isn't the highest point in the loop it's fine; the Rad is higher than the Pump in this setup so it's all good.
Enjoyed the review Leo. Mucho Gracias
nice review, I wonder however why the legs are up from the radiator. With the cpu below there is a fair chance of pump gargle, less performance and reduced pump lifespan, or is there no space to place it with the legs down?
Pump noises and issues are the result of positioning, not orientation as such. When using an AIO you want the Pump - where ever it is built in - to NOT be the highest point in the loop; as long as you do this most AIOs will be completely fine.
In this video the Pump is in the CPU block (that is where Corsair puts their AIO pumps), so having the tubes up and the top of the Rad higher than the CPU block is a good thing.
@@ParagonFury Since most pumps I've seen are of the centrifugal type, the most important is to have a fully filled inlet leg to ensure no cavitation will occure. Also AIO's are not 100% filled. Even though the offical defination of cavitation referes only to vapor pressure, the eventually excess air off factory causes the same issue. The situation differs when you use a membrane pump (like an aquarium pump). In this case with legs up there is a fair chance of pulling air into the system as gasses will collect at the highest point. By turning it over the static pressure avoids that possibility.So for me orientation matters, but we don't need to agree on that 🙂, just explaining where i'm coming from. See also this one from Steve th-cam.com/video/BbGomv195sk/w-d-xo.html who explains more situations.
Hi, is there a way to modify to fit in a 3.5" HDD inside this case?
I wonder why adding front fans reduce noise? Would it be because the AIO fans run at a slower rpm with better airflow when the front fans are installed? But again, wouldn't the AIO fans run at full speed during CB23 regardless of front fan installed or not? Would appreciate any insight.
Big tall case is also now mini itx
"the smaller the number the smaller the case"
Laughing looking at my 1000D super tower
Good review, but my hyte revolt 3 with a 280 aio is still the best option for me
Once its all together thats a really neat build from the outside.
It's mildly annoying, that just a few design changes could make this case an ultimate PC tower case.
Reverse internal design to plug everything from top, make 360 AIO mount on the opposite side of GPU instead on top of it, add 2-3 cm to support 4 slot GPUs, add 2 cm to fit standard 120 fans instead of slims, change PSU position to improve overall airflow, redesign mesh to not choke some components as some tests shown to happen, and maybe few minor changes to cable management.
Sometimes I think that they are intentionally designing gimped designs to just keep having an excuse to make a new case instead of making one excellent product... or they just suck at design.
good review , form my POV mate i see that it could be customable for an ATX, if the PS will be moved below under grafic card we wil have space for an ATX on top , few cm of the Grafic card to the fraem and all will fit
I've picked one of these up to house a 13900KS + 4090 FE.
Far better options while being smaller.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't it be better mounting the radiator with the hoses at the bottom instead of on top? Isn't there air in the AIO to some extend?
Tube orientation isn't an issue; it's Pump vs. Loop height. As long as the Pump isn't the highest point in the loop it's fine; the Rad is higher than the Pump in this setup so it's all good.
Is there any non-SFX PSU that can fit in that case PSU riser? Or by removing that riser is that possible?
Was hoping to see how restrictive the mesh panels are (temps with them removed). I suppose the reason to only leave room for slim fans in the front is to market their new fans... Deshrouding the GPU and installing some 120 mm fans on the back could be nice.
Should I be concerned with air bubbles at top of the aio?
As long as you don’t get air bubbles in the pump, you should be ok.
Maybe we get to see 1000 series airflow without extra dimensions to support bigger GPUs and radiators...
Would a 4090 Fe fit inside? Neweggs website says 320mm 3 slot, corsairs website says 320 in one location and 365mm in another location. Do you think noctua fans would a better choice for fans?
That is so interesting, the 2000D from Origin has the mobo flipped being above the psu and is on the opposite side (right instead of left). That means the cables going into the mobo come out the top making it much easier to plug things in, plus you get an extra 120mm fan on top. I wonder why they flipped things around for the normal Corsair version, the pump on the Origin version is still below the top point of the rad as well. Being honest, I like the Origin version more since it isn't asymmetrical like you can see at 18:43 and the cables are much easier to get to once the pc is all put together since you just have to remove the top bit and have full access. I would guess it would also have slightly better thermals since it has that top exhaust fan.
Because having the I/O at the top causes issues with the gpu
@hovercroft Weird, but how would having it flipped the other way or having it vertically mounted in a regular case be any different?
@@JubJub958 I don’t know I just read that having the gpu upside down can cause performance issues. That’s probably why they changed it. There’s not really any cases with a top I/O
@hovercroft I could see that being an issue, especially with cards like the reference 7900 xtx since those already had issues
@@JubJub958 it’s just an issue in general for graphics cards. They don’t run well upside down. Vertical or horizontal is best. Not sure what issues you are referring too. But it’s not tied to a specific gpu.
Great video - thank you for the insights! Owning an NZXT H1 I was saddened to see the following : The orientation of the mainboard and the resulting location of it’s IO panel is more than a bit annoying. I had to work with an otherwise unnecessary USB hub making my overall rather small setup - a lot of work and unpleasant to maintain and not something I will continue using - sadly.
Very non traditional layout but it is very compact.
yeah stayin on ssupd meshlicious, i wanna see my PSU, RAM, pump-block and board, 280mm is more than enough for 5800X3D anyway
Did those dongles come with the motherboard??
Surprising to see adding the three intake fans at the front somehow reduces noise. Seems like an itx case worth buying.
It makes sense because what happens when you add the additional fans is they introduce enough cool airflow to where it brings temps down. Any other fans inside the system are able to run at much lower RPM while running cooler, especially since the only fans that were in the case were dealing with the resistance of having to go through the radiator fins.
Looks like a good case for a deshrouded GPU.
I find it a little disheartening that when using an AIO with a cooler that has a display screen like the H100i Elite, it gets blocked by the positioning of the Radiator and fans thus rendering it's functionality moot. I would like to see if it can handle a GPU the size of the Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX.
Misstep for not making case a little bigger to hold ATX power supply.
For that size I'm surprised it can't fit up to a 4 slot gpu. Its as itx as the tower 100. Spend a bit more and the meshroom s case is a better buy. Why couldn't corsair release their actual itx case. Anything over 20 liters in volume shouldn't be limited to a sfx powersupply or itx motherboard.
How much is the weight when its full build?
SSUPD Meshroom is a way better option. It supports either an Matx board and sfx power supply Oran Itx board with an atx power supply.
Do you think it is possible to install 2 x 240mm Rads ?
I just did a build in this case, there are no airflow issues at all but you have to know how to build a mini itx to begin with. If this is your first one, you need to study first else the wiring will screw your airflow up but that is not the fault of this case. As it stands without being able to show you my benchmarks casuse YT comments suck, under ultra settings gaming load on Red Dead 2, my CPU never touches 50C (Ryzen 7 7800x3d). GPU is an RTX 4080 and again no heat issues at all. If I could change one thing about this case it is the receiver deck. You have to route the wires in to the case through an open hole at the bottom of the case. That is just a lazy design.
What cpu cooler are you using?
I like the shape but having watched the build it’s not really ideal for what I’d want. Thanks Leo. 👍🏻
can you get a radeon 7900 xtx in there?
should i get hyte revolt or Corsair 2000D?
Love this video. As always great build. I do think 600w is a bit low for 6800xt is it not tho??
Dont like the lack of 3.5 inch drive option. Some of us need spinning drives still.
It's 2023 NAS' exist.
@@svn5994 i wanted to make nas out of this case.
i have thermaltake tower 100 so i wanna know thermaltake or corsair 2000d is better ? by the way i use core i9 10th
Was really hoping that it would support at least a 3.5 slot gpu. Guess i wont be putting my 4090 on this case.
FF01 Mesh-licious/room
and yet we are still waiting for 3000D
3 is one of my favourite numbers 😮
I gave up on buying this case. Thanks for the review, sir.
Why did you give up ?
@@KitGuruTechI gave up on buying this case because, basically, I didn't like the look, the mess of cables inside the case, the position of the rear panel (makes it difficult to use), the position of the front panel (makes it possible to bump into my plugged pen drives and dongles), the limitation for using only mini-ITX (this is terrible and incompatible with the size of the tower), and temperatures. I really expected more. Thank you again.
Do you know if the 4090 Tuf will fit in....?
@@nn-dv3uf Wrong wrong and wrong. Plenty of sub 20L cases support 4 slot GPUs unlike this overpriced POS.
Does anyone know if this will fit a m-DTX board in? It's a shame they didn't route the power cable on the inside tbh, but I like the case. Im considering this as my H210i is now restricting me on GPU choice given that the front of that case houses the AOI. I'm limited to just over 280mm
Leo, you are the best pc hardware reviewer on the planet 👍
Jayz2cents is way better.
@@Digikidthevoiceofreason LOL No he's not.
Hyte Revolt 3 Clone
I have a 4000D Airflow in white and overall its been a really nice case. However due to my huge motherboard heatsink I cannot put anything larger than a 240 AIO at the top. So radiator support is iffy. Also vertical GPU support is non existent, as its way too close to the glass... Wish they gave it 1 more inch of width. I'd like an ITX system but I also want more than 2 M.2 drive slots and that simply wont happen. I have 4 slots in my current B550 Unify board. This 2000D is a fiddly case.
I have the same case, there is no support for 360 top mount on 4000D Airflow, I use 360 but in front.
Pretty sure the MB in this video can use 3 M.2 drives
Just put a 360 in the front
support psu atx 80plus?
"The bigger the number. The bigger the case" NONONO Corsair has a 1000D look at the size of that thing you could probably fit 3 of the 2000D cases in it and it is larger than the 7000D and you can put TWO ROWS of quad 140mm fans in the front AND the top and a second mini ITX PC in the back
You are quite correct about the 1000D however most of us regard that model as a mis-step that we prefer to ignore
Leo
Is this case even available in the uk ?
Scan for £110
lul, just skipped forward a bit at the start and heard that the corsair case cost "Three hundred thousand pounds".
Give it a try. 0:22 🤣🤣
Shame it won’t fit a 3 slot GPU and fans under it, at least slim ones.
Radiator is upside down. Tubes on the bottom.