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Great video! I've lived in Florida for all but 10 of my 62 years. I've enjoyed paddling for a chunk of those years. Gators can be intimidating but I've never had a bad experience around them. A couple of things you shouldn't do, like get too close to the bank if there is a gator on the bank. The water is their safe place and they will go through you to get back to their safe place. Be careful paddling into areas with a lot of plant life or floating sticks or logs. As a photographer, I've gotten myself into situations I shouldn't have just to get THAT shot. It's always turned out okay but in hind sight, probably pretty foolish. I have a favorite little tidal river, the Waccasassa. It often gets overlooked because it is very small and not that nice if you go out towards the Gulf but absolutely beautiful if you paddle upriver, away from the gulf, Can be pretty active in places with gators. Regularly has manatees and dolphins, both much more playful than gators. I've had manatees lift me up because they love to scratch their backs and play with kayaks. The first time it happens it can startle you pretty bad. LOL Florida has such a diverse eco system, so many gorgeous places to paddle. Enjoy your travels!
I've been in Florida for my 80 years. I have paddled almost every navigable river and camped on a lot of them. I have always seen gators when paddling. All they do is move out of my way or sink to the bottom and let me go by them. You want to see Gators , try the Okefenokee Swamp , they are thicker then fleas on a hound dogs back. A 4 night , 5 day paddle across it is something to see.
I agree! I did a 3-day trip on the Okefenokee last year, from East to the West side. One of the best paddling trips of my life. You can watch it here: th-cam.com/video/hbHuX3j5i5Q/w-d-xo.html
I'm from the north and my only trip to FL I rented a canoe and paddled around Lake Myakka. I saw a fair amount of gators on the lake and even more in the river (standing on the shore). I'm glad so many people from FL say it's a great place. I wanted to see FL nature and get away from the tourist stuff.
That river is chock full of fat bass! Fished there often in the 90's-2000's when I lived in Sarasota. Gators don't bug you, just sit there or run away.
I used to paddle the myakka all the time one of my faves in Florida. Florida has the most diverse paddling i ever seen. Thanks for sharing. Great video!! Hope your parents are enjoying your visit
I live here. The Mayaka joins into Charlotte harbor and is also fed by the Peace River. We see gators in the side tributaries of the Peace all the time. The most and biggest gators I ever saw was right after a hurricane.
Thanks for another great video. A lighter Pakayak is a great development for us paddlers that are getting older. The modular 3 piece Stellar S14 G2 looks interesting and light but doesn't pack down nearly as compact. So many boats, so little time, and money.
Such a gift, Ken! We live not far from where you were paddling, yet had no awareness of what you experienced. So again, thank you. IMO you are 'spot on' about 'weight'. I took measurements in our small motorboat's cockpit today, folding in our kayak research over the weekend. It's do-able in feet and inches...but weight adds a complication, for sure.
You’re a brave man! I’m from central Florida but I’d go visit my grandparents down near myakka state park. It was always fun to visit/camp there and see the obscene amount of gators. There were always so many and I’d watch in awe and horror as people would go out on the tour boats. No way would I ever want to be in the middle of that water! But it was fascinating to watch!
Rent a canoe at the state park and go out there! Be prepared to work hard if it's a windy day though. I got blown over to the shore and had to get out and push off a few times. I was a bit concerned about that but it was fine. I did poke around with my paddle before getting out to make sure nothing was laying on bottom of the lake 🙂
Wow, at 50 lbs that's super compelling. I just bought a 14' Eddyline Carribean that without seat in it weights about 48 lbs and it's just fine for lugging back and forth to the water. However, not easy to use in all cases due to transport so I can see myself picking up one of these also. Nice.
I live on the this river. Its great to see dolphins, gators, manatees daily. We took the kayaks and.canoe out yesterday for a few hours. Paddle around the canals and main river is.a great way to.spend.a.day.
Great video Ken! We were just there, walking trails..Hope you got to go across the suspension bridge in the State Park.. An idea for future video: best kayaks and techniques for seniors. Feature maybe portable kayaks and lightweight kayaks. And easy ways to load kayaks and enter into boats.
I have hiked around the east side of the south lake. It is the wildest place I have ever seen. The number of wild hogs is unbelievable and feral cows are screaming all through the woods. Where did you get out?
My wife is terrified of gators! About 30 years ago when she lived in Florida for a couple years, at work she was chased by a gator snapping at her legs many times one day while she was on a golf cart trying to press the gas pedal while without being bitten. We were in Florida a couple days ago, but live more than 1000 miles away. My kayaking adventures are limited to places where it would be unusual to see gators. I have my Sea Eagle Paddleski 435ps with us. I took it to the Ponce Inlet between Daytona Beach & New Smyrna Beach. No gators, but near the shark bite capital of the world. LOL. Turns out to be a beautiful spot. I couldn't get my Torqeedo motor to power on, but was able to paddle around for an hour or so as we were meeting a relative for lunch.
That is THE place to see alligators! This river is a great place to learn to overcome a fear of paddling with them. I paddled for 4 years before I gathered the nerve 😵to paddle there. You really feel as if you've entered Jurassic Park. I would not paddle board or go in a kayak less than 12ft. The wake of gators getting in the water could be an issue. Its not a place to linger or go thrashing about in the water 🤔 I am excited that you have gotten a chance to see the area. Alligator mating season is just starting and you can hear big males bellowing and see them posturing. That side view when they leap from the bank 😳 That does get your attention 😂
It really was an all-time memorable day trip. I'd go back and do it again in a heart beat... although there's more rivers to explore in the area too! Have you done the Alafia River?
@@PaddleTV Not yet...there are so many places to go. In a week or 2 Im heading back to Okefenokee but to paddle the canals on the Stephen Foster State Park side.I'll be camping and doing an overnight. Its an international dark sky park....very little light pollution and star gazing is optimized.
We're going on a kayak camping trip for memorial day. I think we're going down into Choctahatchee bay. My brother is a marine biologist for the department of the interior and kayaks all over the S.E. USA!
This is why I don't take a kayak when I go to Florida, all the dam Gators (You're crazy lol) I spotted straight away when you were putting it together that the boat was the new one. Because the lower cot pit is a bit different, and talking about PakAyaK and this new boat, they have really enjoyed me. I only picked my up 5 months ago and if I had known this one was coming out I would have waited. Great video once again Ken, keep them coming. 👍👍
@@PaddleTV There are also bears in florida, pumas. Man eating pigs (OK I made that up, but they probably think about it), Python, tons of venomous snake, the place is a paradise. I have only been there once, but it tops my list. I have been kayaking over 50 years, they are fantastic. Just finishing up three wooden ones, at the moment. But in places were there are crocs, they tend to use different styles of boat. Canoes, often paddle standing up so they don't just get tugged in by the arm. And a skiff, would be pretty cool. But sure, Kayaks, are fine.
I know basically nothing about gators but I'm curious, when you are at the shore and you put the kayak in the river, how do you avoid them as you are getting in and out of the kayak? That would be the part I'd be most worried about, because I thought the way they attack is by preying on people in shallow water.
Gators are a lot different than crocodiles. They don't look at humans as being food. Saltwater crocodiles look at humans as food. Fortunately, there aren't any crocodiles in North America. It is still a little nerve racking, and you have to be careful near the waters edge... but it's not nearly the same as being in croc country.
Avid Florida outdoor man here. Gatos don’t even mind us I always pass by them with just feet between us when cycling and they don’t flinch or open their eyes if they’re basking they simply don’t mind us at all, but I still wouldn’t recommend swimming in any open large body of water in Florida
I own one. The cockpit is pretty roomy - you may be surprised. You can find someone to show you their boat on the Pakayak site. I helped someone fit a Pakayak in a Ford Mustang and a Toyota Corolla. Again, you may be surprised :)
Was this your first time out in this lighter version? Is the construction just a strong? How exactly have they achieved 10 lb reduction? That's a lot of plastic to get rid of if that is all they have done surely that would make the walls of the kayak a lot thinner. Everyone is really dying to know is it just as good in all other ways. Are there any other differences other than the weight?
It's the same boat overall. They've simply refined the rotomolding process to remove excess plastic where it isn't needed. Yes, it's a little thinner plastic overall. This would probably make a typical rotomolded kayak super 'flimsy' feeling, but since the Pakayak has natural bulkheads or ribs at the ends of each section, it maintains good stiffness. The only time I felt a difference was when I paddled over some logs. It seemed as though the bottom of the kayak flexed a little more than normal, but I might have simply noticed it because I was looking for it. Make sense?
i did the coast to coast adventure race back in the day with adventurous concepts. i paddled that river at night. it was crazy!!! i had a head lamp on and there were thousands of eye shines the whole time😅
I sold my Pakayak shortly after buying it in the Kickstarter campaign. It is too heavy for me to carry in the backpack. The company would not take it back even though it had never been used. My brother got me a cheapo walmart kayak that weighs less than half.
I have had a few near death experiences with Gators in canoes, and plastic rafts. And my recommendation is Stay away from them unless you’re in a sizable boat or airboat. If you ever encounter them in a canoe or raft, you better know what you’re doing, because if you’re not experienced with them, you’re basically an opportunity for a Meal. Be Warned.
I have some news for visitors to my state. EVERY river in Florida has alligators. Actually, every body of water in the state, including some swimming pools, have alligators.
Great videos Ken. Can you share any noticeable differences between the previous 142s and the new lightweight model? Is the wall thickness change obvious? Are the stress points robust enough, etc?
It's the same boat overall. They've simply refined the rotomolding process to remove excess plastic where it isn't needed. Yes, it's a little thinner plastic overall. This would probably make a typical rotomolded kayak 'flimsy' feeling, but since the Pakayak has natural bulkheads or ribs at the ends of each section (there's no long span of plastic), it maintains good stiffness. The only time I felt a difference was when I paddled over some logs. It seemed as though the bottom of the kayak flexed a little more than before, but I might have simply noticed it because I was looking for it. Other than that... I didn't notice anything different, although I was a little distracted by all the gators! :)
Been down to lower lake just before the last bend and seen at least a 15’ gator on the bank sunning.thing looked as big as a dragon .his paws looked 10” wide and from his nose to his jaw was3’
There is a place they call “the hole” on the Myakka River where gators are so populated that they lay on top of one another. It’s where a giant sink hole happened in the river, so it is so deep that there are many turtles and fish for the gators to eat. I live in Florida and I have never seen so many alligators in one place. Gators tend to be solitary and chase other gators out of their territory. You must get a pass from the ranger station when entering the park to get the permit to walk the trail down to The Hole. This is so they know how many people went down the trail and to come after you if you don’t return before sundown. That is how dangerous it is. You have to walk down a long trail before coming to the Hole. Certain times of the year that part of the river overflows, so you won’t see as many gators. If you go when it is not overflowed, you will see more gators than you can imagine. There are many gators along the river, but nothing like the population at The Hole. There are hundreds piled on top of each other. They’re all very large because gators will eat any smaller gators in their territory, so any that hang there are too large for the others to eat, making them all large, over 12 feet or more. There are gators up to 15 feet long. If you have a fear of gators, don’t go down that trail. Gators are not aggressive like crocodiles and usually won’t mess with you as long as you don’t mess with them. That’s why gator attacks on people are rare and there has never been an attack by a gator more than five foot from the shore of a lake, river, pond, creek or run. Stay more than five foot from the waters edge and you will be safe.
Sure, but that is like saying as long as you don't play into their preferred ambush mode you are fine. People always say that kind of thing, it is true, and good advice. But everyone needs a plan, and kill zone, it isn't as though they don't want to snatch your kids. It would be like saying, that deer have nothing to fear if they stay 400 yards away from my rifle, or don't walk under my tree stand. They shouldn't worry about all those deer hunting books, or videos I have, or that subscription to Bowhunter magazine. Nothing to see here.
Launched in Myakka River State Park - there's a kayak launch about a mile after you go through the main gate. I pulled out at Venice Myakka River Park. It also has a canoe/kayak launch. Have fun and be safe!
@@PaddleTV awesome, i assume the launch by the state park is somewhere by the first bridge you cross in the park. Don’t ever recall seeing a launch there? Also when did you do the trip. I’m planning on doing it this weekend. Just making sure there is enough water in the river. I know at times it can be low and you have to do some portaging. In a two man canoe with two healthy adults paddling can you do it in under 10 hours? Looks like bugs were no real issues? Thx again for all the information. Much appreciated
That’s pretty ballsy. Gators are likely to leave you well enough along but crocks? I hear Florida also has some native crocodiles. They’re not as aggressive as the saltwater ones found in Africa and Australia but, well….
0:29: "I am down here visiting... in Florida... visiting my parents and... Ooh, gosh! They're everywhere!" :) 2:46: Indeed, what does too many gators look like? 3:26: Herons can, by all means, be hunting when we get near them - and, thus, be bothered by us. We can only hope they do not get very mad by sharing the waters. 4:33: How likely is this kind of boat, which is intended to be a cross between a rigid kayak and an inflatable one (i.e., stiff and portable) to spread massively - even conquer the world of paddling? They seem to be too complicated - too much hassle - if compared to rigid kayaks, too bulky and heavy if compared to inflatable ones. And the price (just shy of $2K for the latest Pakayak, the Bluefin) is not making them more attractive, either! 6:49: How did such packs of alligators make you feel? Did you fear something could go wrong? Faith is often not good enough; nor is speed a reliable friend when it comes to racing these natural-born swimmers. 10:11: Very true: what others have done and do is irrelevant; where we are in the picture is what matters, nothing else. Our own, personal experience. 12:15: Weirs could be dangerous, but, truth be told, not all of them are. Moving past or through one successfully can also depend on the type of boat - on a raft, for instance, one could be much safer than on a kayak or a canoe - as well as on the skills of the rower/paddler. The right kind of equipment is also something to consider before attempting to tackle a weir. And, last but not least, it is best to run over, or through, a weir when assisted by a friend - who is in another boat or somewhere safer and can throw a rescue line if need be. 14:01: "The runs that are... can be, literally, in your backyard, can be some of the most magical runs": this one is also true. All one needs to do is get out there and live! Enjoy your next run!
@@PaddleTV thank you. Also great video once again! You have inspired me to buy the Pakayak Bluefin 142. I am 32 years old and live close to a large lake, but I don't have any outdoor storage space where I live. The creator of Pakayak has done something truly wonderful, but I think the 2k price point won't appeal for many unfortunately.
Kayak one step above an inter tube. This is Florida. News Flash they are wild. So you can't predict what they will do. The way to ensure a good trip is to tie Chicken parts on a short rope behind your log your on.
You were aware that March and April is mating season for them. You might want to avoid the river in June-July when female gators will attack if you come near their nest mound...😃🐊
New to Florida here in Santa Rosa Beach. Choctawhatchee Bay is just down the street, so I can paddle close to home. Haven’t ventured to the Intercoastal waterway yet, but gators are beautiful but still potentially dangerous. Not sure where you put in and pull out there. Hopefully gators don’t like to stay there too. Gotta sign posted about black bears around so even the land predators can show up. Worst of all, Hwy 98 is more of a concern. Bad drivers are the most dangerous thing around here.
Headed to Florida in a few weeks for a family thing and I'm gonna bring my pakayak just in case i can fit in some paddle time! (If weather allows) If anyone has favorite spots around Clearwater/Dunedin let me know!
I thought the alligator will take kayaker though. I watched a show on Netflix, Two kayakers caught the horrific moment their friend was eaten by an enormous crocodile on camera! Is crocodile same as alligator?
I paddled with someone that had an older Pakyak and yeah the weight was an issue. He needed at least another paddler to help him get in and off the water to his car. Senior paddlers need less weight above all.
Yikes! I think of alligators like black bears - they're not looking at you as a food source, but if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, it can be trouble. Mating season isn't a great time for that reason.
Speaking of upgrades to lightweight kayaks, I believe you have the Hobie iTrek 9 Ultralightweight (hull weight 20 pounds) which this year has added a socket for sail or bimini sunshade. That's a proper, large, upwind going sail for the ultimate kayak experience.
Alligators will sweep their tails and knock you out of your kayak or canoe. Very dangerous. They did it to a child years ago at Jonathan Dickinson park. Proceed at your own risk.
Wait until you get to the deep hole and you’ll see tones of gators 🐊 😅 You shouldn’t be recommending this kayak trip to everyone and any type of kayaks as it is a dangerous paddling due to the amount of alligators in the water! That’s is the reason why you have to pull a permit to kayak these waters or even access the deep hole by hiking trail. Certainly not a safe place during alligators mating season!
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Welcome to what's left of Florida.
Great video! I've lived in Florida for all but 10 of my 62 years. I've enjoyed paddling for a chunk of those years.
Gators can be intimidating but I've never had a bad experience around them. A couple of things you shouldn't do, like get too close to the bank if there is a gator on the bank. The water is their safe place and they will go through you to get back to their safe place.
Be careful paddling into areas with a lot of plant life or floating sticks or logs. As a photographer, I've gotten myself into situations I shouldn't have just to get THAT shot. It's always turned out okay but in hind sight, probably pretty foolish.
I have a favorite little tidal river, the Waccasassa. It often gets overlooked because it is very small and not that nice if you go out towards the Gulf but absolutely beautiful if you paddle upriver, away from the gulf, Can be pretty active in places with gators. Regularly has manatees and dolphins, both much more playful than gators. I've had manatees lift me up because they love to scratch their backs and play with kayaks. The first time it happens it can startle you pretty bad. LOL Florida has such a diverse eco system, so many gorgeous places to paddle. Enjoy your travels!
really, dont get to close to the bank of theres an alligator there? great advice clownboy.
I've been in Florida for my 80 years. I have paddled almost every navigable river and camped on a lot of them. I have always seen gators when paddling. All they do is move out of my way or sink to the bottom and let me go by them. You want to see Gators , try the Okefenokee Swamp , they are thicker then fleas on a hound dogs back. A 4 night , 5 day paddle across it is something to see.
I agree! I did a 3-day trip on the Okefenokee last year, from East to the West side. One of the best paddling trips of my life. You can watch it here: th-cam.com/video/hbHuX3j5i5Q/w-d-xo.html
It's hard not to get lost. Ha!
Agreed, gators always move out of the way. It’s pretty cool to be tolerated so well by them. I too paddle all over Florida weekly!
I love that place but for what you see they really over charge to get in !!
@@keithfaulk1354 You paid? Lol!
I grew up in the Sarasota area and paddled Myakka and Peace Rivers growing up. Florida nature at its best.
I'm from the north and my only trip to FL I rented a canoe and paddled around Lake Myakka. I saw a fair amount of gators on the lake and even more in the river (standing on the shore). I'm glad so many people from FL say it's a great place. I wanted to see FL nature and get away from the tourist stuff.
@paulsmith5611
A park ranger told me about a woman who was eaten by a 15ft alligator there back in the mid 80s
Close encounters of the biggest, and most kind in Florida. Thanks Ken for highlighting the Myakka River. A true " to do" paddle in Florida.
It really is a must-see river! Cheers!
That river is chock full of fat bass! Fished there often in the 90's-2000's when I lived in Sarasota. Gators don't bug you, just sit there or run away.
I used to paddle the myakka all the time one of my faves in Florida. Florida has the most diverse paddling i ever seen.
Thanks for sharing. Great video!! Hope your parents are enjoying your visit
Cheers!
I live here. The Mayaka joins into Charlotte harbor and is also fed by the Peace River. We see gators in the side tributaries of the Peace all the time. The most and biggest gators I ever saw was right after a hurricane.
Thanks for another great video. A lighter Pakayak is a great development for us paddlers that are getting older. The modular 3 piece Stellar S14 G2 looks interesting and light but doesn't pack down nearly as compact. So many boats, so little time, and money.
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Such a gift, Ken! We live not far from where you were paddling, yet had no awareness of what you experienced. So again, thank you. IMO you are 'spot on' about 'weight'. I took measurements in our small motorboat's cockpit today, folding in our kayak research over the weekend. It's do-able in feet and inches...but weight adds a complication, for sure.
Gatorville. Wow. I am sure you were glad when that paddle was done.
Used to canoe there and on the Peace, in the late 70's and early 80's. Both were packed with Gators back then...
Grew up camping along the Peace river (80's). So many great spots to camp along that river.
Same thing with the Estero river!
You’re a brave man! I’m from central Florida but I’d go visit my grandparents down near myakka state park. It was always fun to visit/camp there and see the obscene amount of gators. There were always so many and I’d watch in awe and horror as people would go out on the tour boats. No way would I ever want to be in the middle of that water! But it was fascinating to watch!
Rent a canoe at the state park and go out there! Be prepared to work hard if it's a windy day though. I got blown over to the shore and had to get out and push off a few times. I was a bit concerned about that but it was fine. I did poke around with my paddle before getting out to make sure nothing was laying on bottom of the lake 🙂
Eh, gators are fine. If you hear banjos paddle faster...
Good one
I tell that to my girlfriend all the time when we’re kayaking. 😂
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Wow, at 50 lbs that's super compelling. I just bought a 14' Eddyline Carribean that without seat in it weights about 48 lbs and it's just fine for lugging back and forth to the water. However, not easy to use in all cases due to transport so I can see myself picking up one of these also. Nice.
I live on the this river. Its great to see dolphins, gators, manatees daily. We took the kayaks and.canoe out yesterday for a few hours. Paddle around the canals and main river is.a great way to.spend.a.day.
What a backyard you have!!
Ever see skunk ape?
Great video Ken! We were just there, walking trails..Hope you got to go across the suspension bridge in the State Park.. An idea for future video: best kayaks and techniques for seniors. Feature maybe portable kayaks and lightweight kayaks. And easy ways to load kayaks and enter into boats.
I didn't get to the suspension bridge! Next time... Good video idea by the way! Thanks.
I have hiked around the east side of the south lake. It is the wildest place I have ever seen. The number of wild hogs is unbelievable and feral cows are screaming all through the woods. Where did you get out?
My wife is terrified of gators! About 30 years ago when she lived in Florida for a couple years, at work she was chased by a gator snapping at her legs many times one day while she was on a golf cart trying to press the gas pedal while without being bitten.
We were in Florida a couple days ago, but live more than 1000 miles away. My kayaking adventures are limited to places where it would be unusual to see gators. I have my Sea Eagle Paddleski 435ps with us. I took it to the Ponce Inlet between Daytona Beach & New Smyrna Beach. No gators, but near the shark bite capital of the world. LOL. Turns out to be a beautiful spot. I couldn't get my Torqeedo motor to power on, but was able to paddle around for an hour or so as we were meeting a relative for lunch.
What a terrifying experience for your wife! I've never paddled in your part of Florida. I can only imagine it's beautiful there.
I would be more worried about the 9' bull shark
Your a brave man my friend. Love that kayak. Will look it up .. Thanks!
You are very brave to kayak on Myakka River
That is THE place to see alligators!
This river is a great place to learn to overcome
a fear of paddling with them. I paddled for 4 years
before I gathered the nerve 😵to paddle there.
You really feel as if you've entered Jurassic Park.
I would not paddle board or go in a kayak less than 12ft.
The wake of gators getting in the water could be an issue.
Its not a place to linger or go thrashing about in the water 🤔
I am excited that you have gotten a chance to see the area.
Alligator mating season is just starting and you can hear
big males bellowing and see them posturing.
That side view when they leap from the bank 😳
That does get your attention 😂
It really was an all-time memorable day trip. I'd go back and do it again in a heart beat... although there's more rivers to explore in the area too! Have you done the Alafia River?
@@PaddleTV Not yet...there are so many places to go. In a week or 2 Im heading back
to Okefenokee but to paddle the
canals on the Stephen Foster State Park
side.I'll be camping and doing an overnight.
Its an international dark sky park....very little
light pollution and star gazing is optimized.
That was a very entertaining video! Great camera work too!
Thank you very much!
You can do this as long as everything goes fine. If it doesn’t it could hurt!
great video and awesome kayaking!! thank you for sharing, hope your parents are enjoying your visit.. have a good evening and weekend.
Cheers!
We're going on a kayak camping trip for memorial day. I think we're going down into Choctahatchee bay. My brother is a marine biologist for the department of the interior and kayaks all over the S.E. USA!
Have an amazing trip!
This is why I don't take a kayak when I go to Florida, all the dam Gators (You're crazy lol)
I spotted straight away when you were putting it together that the boat was the new one. Because the lower cot pit is a bit different, and talking about PakAyaK and this new boat, they have really enjoyed me. I only picked my up 5 months ago and if I had known this one was coming out I would have waited.
Great video once again Ken, keep them coming. 👍👍
:) Floridians say the same thing about us camping in bear country! :)
@@PaddleTV lol
@@PaddleTV There are also bears in florida, pumas. Man eating pigs (OK I made that up, but they probably think about it), Python, tons of venomous snake, the place is a paradise. I have only been there once, but it tops my list.
I have been kayaking over 50 years, they are fantastic. Just finishing up three wooden ones, at the moment. But in places were there are crocs, they tend to use different styles of boat. Canoes, often paddle standing up so they don't just get tugged in by the arm. And a skiff, would be pretty cool. But sure, Kayaks, are fine.
If you don’t want to paddle with gators the bridge inside the Myakka State Park bridge lets you park and stand at the bridge and look.
I know basically nothing about gators but I'm curious, when you are at the shore and you put the kayak in the river, how do you avoid them as you are getting in and out of the kayak? That would be the part I'd be most worried about, because I thought the way they attack is by preying on people in shallow water.
Gators are a lot different than crocodiles. They don't look at humans as being food. Saltwater crocodiles look at humans as food. Fortunately, there aren't any crocodiles in North America. It is still a little nerve racking, and you have to be careful near the waters edge... but it's not nearly the same as being in croc country.
@@PaddleTV I didn't know that or understand, always hear stories like the kid that got attacked at Disney World. Thank you for clarifying!
Avid Florida outdoor man here.
Gatos don’t even mind us I always pass by them with just feet between us when cycling and they don’t flinch or open their eyes if they’re basking they simply don’t mind us at all, but I still wouldn’t recommend swimming in any open large body of water in Florida
As a big dude with a small car... one day I hope pakayak starts making a larger volume. I'd definitely pay for one!
I own one. The cockpit is pretty roomy - you may be surprised. You can find someone to show you their boat on the Pakayak site.
I helped someone fit a Pakayak in a Ford Mustang and a Toyota Corolla. Again, you may be surprised :)
I live less than 2 hours from here. I’ll definitely be checking it out now
Was this your first time out in this lighter version? Is the construction just a strong? How exactly have they achieved 10 lb reduction? That's a lot of plastic to get rid of if that is all they have done surely that would make the walls of the kayak a lot thinner. Everyone is really dying to know is it just as good in all other ways. Are there any other differences other than the weight?
It's the same boat overall. They've simply refined the rotomolding process to remove excess plastic where it isn't needed. Yes, it's a little thinner plastic overall. This would probably make a typical rotomolded kayak super 'flimsy' feeling, but since the Pakayak has natural bulkheads or ribs at the ends of each section, it maintains good stiffness. The only time I felt a difference was when I paddled over some logs. It seemed as though the bottom of the kayak flexed a little more than normal, but I might have simply noticed it because I was looking for it. Make sense?
@@PaddleTV thank you that detailed reply.
i did the coast to coast adventure race back in the day with adventurous concepts. i paddled that river at night. it was crazy!!! i had a head lamp on and there were thousands of eye shines the whole time😅
Yikes!!
God man, your prostate must be in good shape. I mean, 20 km without a rest stop - because I would never try to berth there 😂
Ha! I hopped out once for a lunch break, but the spots I could/would hop out were very few.
It’s the gators you don’t see that you have to worry about…
I sold my Pakayak shortly after buying it in the Kickstarter campaign. It is too heavy for me to carry in the backpack. The company would not take it back even though it had never been used. My brother got me a cheapo walmart kayak that weighs less than half.
What a paddle! Putting kayaking with gators on my bucket list.
:)
Skunk Ape lives there. He's real, and hesTHERE!
What about Beak-Man?
Ooof, as soon as I saw the weir I remembered a radiolab(?) episode called "the drowning machine". Thanks for the post-hoc warning.
I have had a few near death experiences with Gators in canoes, and plastic rafts. And my recommendation is Stay away from them unless you’re in a sizable boat or airboat. If you ever encounter them in a canoe or raft, you better know what you’re doing, because if you’re not experienced with them, you’re basically an opportunity for a Meal. Be Warned.
So jealous thanks Ken for sharing....
My pleasure!
I have some news for visitors to my state. EVERY river in Florida has alligators. Actually, every body of water in the state, including some swimming pools, have alligators.
Growing up here we floated over gators regularly. It’s the Crocs that are cooler. Got to Flaming before it’s to hot.
Great videos Ken. Can you share any noticeable differences between the previous 142s and the new lightweight model? Is the wall thickness change obvious? Are the stress points robust enough, etc?
It's the same boat overall. They've simply refined the rotomolding process to remove excess plastic where it isn't needed. Yes, it's a little thinner plastic overall. This would probably make a typical rotomolded kayak 'flimsy' feeling, but since the Pakayak has natural bulkheads or ribs at the ends of each section (there's no long span of plastic), it maintains good stiffness. The only time I felt a difference was when I paddled over some logs. It seemed as though the bottom of the kayak flexed a little more than before, but I might have simply noticed it because I was looking for it. Other than that... I didn't notice anything different, although I was a little distracted by all the gators! :)
@@PaddleTV Thank you for responding!
Where did you pull the boat out from? We live near there too.
I pulled out at Venice Myakka River Park. Great backyard run you have!!
Awesome. I can walk there. My wife and I talk about doing that paddle ourselves. Loved the video.
@@PaddleTVGatorville and you're the Starters called Dinerville 🙏😋🍲🐊🤯
Bet there is Bull sharks too.
Been down to lower lake just before the last bend and seen at least a 15’ gator on the bank sunning.thing looked as big as a dragon .his paws looked 10” wide and from his nose to his jaw was3’
The biggest gator ever recorded what’s just over 14 ft fyi. I think a crocodile can get a big bigger fyi
There is a place they call “the hole” on the Myakka River where gators are so populated that they lay on top of one another. It’s where a giant sink hole happened in the river, so it is so deep that there are many turtles and fish for the gators to eat.
I live in Florida and I have never seen so many alligators in one place. Gators tend to be solitary and chase other gators out of their territory. You must get a pass from the ranger station when entering the park to get the permit to walk the trail down to The Hole. This is so they know how many people went down the trail and to come after you if you don’t return before sundown. That is how dangerous it is. You have to walk down a long trail before coming to the Hole. Certain times of the year that part of the river overflows, so you won’t see as many gators. If you go when it is not overflowed, you will see more gators than you can imagine.
There are many gators along the river, but nothing like the population at The Hole. There are hundreds piled on top of each other. They’re all very large because gators will eat any smaller gators in their territory, so any that hang there are too large for the others to eat, making them all large, over 12 feet or more. There are gators up to 15 feet long. If you have a fear of gators, don’t go down that trail.
Gators are not aggressive like crocodiles and usually won’t mess with you as long as you don’t mess with them. That’s why gator attacks on people are rare and there has never been an attack by a gator more than five foot from the shore of a lake, river, pond, creek or run. Stay more than five foot from the waters edge and you will be safe.
Sure, but that is like saying as long as you don't play into their preferred ambush mode you are fine. People always say that kind of thing, it is true, and good advice. But everyone needs a plan, and kill zone, it isn't as though they don't want to snatch your kids. It would be like saying, that deer have nothing to fear if they stay 400 yards away from my rifle, or don't walk under my tree stand. They shouldn't worry about all those deer hunting books, or videos I have, or that subscription to Bowhunter magazine. Nothing to see here.
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Where did you laugh from and where did you get out. Love to do the trip. Live in Sarasota, thx for a great video
Launched in Myakka River State Park - there's a kayak launch about a mile after you go through the main gate. I pulled out at Venice Myakka River Park. It also has a canoe/kayak launch. Have fun and be safe!
@@PaddleTV awesome, i assume the launch by the state park is somewhere by the first bridge you cross in the park. Don’t ever recall seeing a launch there? Also when did you do the trip. I’m planning on doing it this weekend. Just making sure there is enough water in the river. I know at times it can be low and you have to do some portaging. In a two man canoe with two healthy adults paddling can you do it in under 10 hours? Looks like bugs were no real issues? Thx again for all the information. Much appreciated
That’s pretty ballsy. Gators are likely to leave you well enough along but crocks? I hear Florida also has some native crocodiles. They’re not as aggressive as the saltwater ones found in Africa and Australia but, well….
I wouldn't be doing this type of trip with crocs!!!
0:29: "I am down here visiting... in Florida... visiting my parents and... Ooh, gosh! They're everywhere!" :)
2:46: Indeed, what does too many gators look like?
3:26: Herons can, by all means, be hunting when we get near them - and, thus, be bothered by us. We can only hope they do not get very mad by sharing the waters.
4:33: How likely is this kind of boat, which is intended to be a cross between a rigid kayak and an inflatable one (i.e., stiff and portable) to spread massively - even conquer the world of paddling? They seem to be too complicated - too much hassle - if compared to rigid kayaks, too bulky and heavy if compared to inflatable ones. And the price (just shy of $2K for the latest Pakayak, the Bluefin) is not making them more attractive, either!
6:49: How did such packs of alligators make you feel? Did you fear something could go wrong? Faith is often not good enough; nor is speed a reliable friend when it comes to racing these natural-born swimmers.
10:11: Very true: what others have done and do is irrelevant; where we are in the picture is what matters, nothing else. Our own, personal experience.
12:15: Weirs could be dangerous, but, truth be told, not all of them are. Moving past or through one successfully can also depend on the type of boat - on a raft, for instance, one could be much safer than on a kayak or a canoe - as well as on the skills of the rower/paddler. The right kind of equipment is also something to consider before attempting to tackle a weir. And, last but not least, it is best to run over, or through, a weir when assisted by a friend - who is in another boat or somewhere safer and can throw a rescue line if need be.
14:01: "The runs that are... can be, literally, in your backyard, can be some of the most magical runs": this one is also true. All one needs to do is get out there and live!
Enjoy your next run!
Nice trip, thank you for sharing!
My pleasure!
I tried the online paddlesports safety course but on my cell the screen doesn't respond to me selecting items.
Bummer! Wish I could help.
Learned to swim there off the circus boat ramp
I’d want a bigger boat
Hopefully you can paddle some clear water springs and see some manatees
The Myakka River is the most densely populated alligator habitat you could ever imagine.
That's a dope kayak
Counted 56 gators last time I paddled from the bridge to Upper Myakka
Did Pakayak mention if they would be making a smaller/even lighter model?
I haven't heard anything about a smaller version.
@@PaddleTV thank you. Also great video once again! You have inspired me to buy the Pakayak Bluefin 142. I am 32 years old and live close to a large lake, but I don't have any outdoor storage space where I live. The creator of Pakayak has done something truly wonderful, but I think the 2k price point won't appeal for many unfortunately.
Kayak one step above an inter tube. This is Florida. News Flash they are wild. So you can't predict what they will do. The way to ensure a good trip is to tie Chicken parts on a short rope behind your log your on.
You were aware that March and April is mating season for them. You might want to avoid the river in June-July when female gators will attack if you come near their nest mound...😃🐊
Omg! You brave soul! 😅
It's the gators you didn't see that are scary. Lots of them.
Can you put an electric Trolly motor on the kayak?
where did you put in?
I put-in in Myakka River State Park. There's a canoe/kayak launch only a mile into the park, right before a bridge.
To be paddling among that many gators I think you need a bit of crazy in you as well.
Should always pick the beginning of alligator mating season to navigate Florida's waterways if you're looking to see some.
Nice that's Robby Bieber out in the P&H Volan 160 lightweight I sold him. 🤘🤙🤘
Yeah.. beautiful boat. I love the color.
You had to setup a camera on shore!!! Crazy 😳
New to Florida here in Santa Rosa Beach. Choctawhatchee Bay is just down the street, so I can paddle close to home. Haven’t ventured to the Intercoastal waterway yet, but gators are beautiful but still potentially dangerous.
Not sure where you put in and pull out there. Hopefully gators don’t like to stay there too. Gotta sign posted about black bears around so even the land predators can show up. Worst of all, Hwy 98 is more of a concern. Bad drivers are the most dangerous thing around here.
Would that look better with a golf course on it? /s
Don’t get in tea colored water if ya ain’t ready to throw hands with a dinosaur
Headed to Florida in a few weeks for a family thing and I'm gonna bring my pakayak just in case i can fit in some paddle time! (If weather allows) If anyone has favorite spots around Clearwater/Dunedin let me know!
That is one ungainly looking kayak, but it seems to perform well. (And that's a lotta gators!)
Yea, Robby!!!
I've paddled that river and it is definitely full of gators
so beautifull nature, but i would be to scary paddle there :)
I thought the alligator will take kayaker though. I watched a show on Netflix, Two kayakers caught the horrific moment their friend was eaten by an enormous crocodile on camera! Is crocodile same as alligator?
No. Paddling with crocs would be terrifying!
Try the Indian river.
I paddled with someone that had an older Pakyak and yeah the weight was an issue. He needed at least another paddler to help him get in and off the water to his car. Senior paddlers need less weight above all.
Yup. All 14-foot or longer plastic kayaks are quite heavy, and so it's great to see them cutting as much weight as they can.
How do get home?
Still waiting for the tandem pakayak thing 😅
Ha! Me too!
@@PaddleTV Did you have a sneak peak yet behind the scenes? :D
Watch out for the skunk apes!
I think we need a bigger boat.
I would never take a kayak in myakka. Ive seen guys get attacked & rushed by territorial big male gators.
Yikes! I think of alligators like black bears - they're not looking at you as a food source, but if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, it can be trouble. Mating season isn't a great time for that reason.
Hitting a sandbar would be a nightmare...
Have you been targeted by a shark in one yet? I've always wanted one until I saw how often they are targeted by sharks.
Speaking of upgrades to lightweight kayaks, I believe you have the Hobie iTrek 9 Ultralightweight (hull weight 20 pounds) which this year has added a socket for sail or bimini sunshade. That's a proper, large, upwind going sail for the ultimate kayak experience.
That's cool to hear about! Perfect for your type of paddling, isn't it?
I'll take speed over faith any day!! LOL
Oh hell no!
If you're near a large female with nest, or babies, beware.
They are protective of their young.
Alligators will sweep their tails and knock you out of your kayak or canoe. Very dangerous. They did it to a child years ago at Jonathan Dickinson park. Proceed at your own risk.
Wait until you get to the deep hole and you’ll see tones of gators 🐊 😅
You shouldn’t be recommending this kayak trip to everyone and any type of kayaks as it is a dangerous paddling due to the amount of alligators in the water! That’s is the reason why you have to pull a permit to kayak these waters or even access the deep hole by hiking trail. Certainly not a safe place during alligators mating season!
It’s more extreme than the white water 😅
I would agree that I was more nervous at times on this day than I am on most whitewater days. :)
If there is a puddle there are gators, just the way things are in FL.