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David -- just took delivery of my DF500 this week. I also bought the connector kit as I plan on building a king size bed frame. I was looking for a tutorial when I remembered your excellent series of videos. My parf guide arrived last month -- I'm now ready to dive headlong into construction. Thanks again sir!
Hi Dave, just wanted to say that I did watch this video when you first posted it a few years ago. But having literally just bought the connector set for my DF500 a few days ago for a current project, I just watched it again with renewed interest! I particularly appreciated the additional info after your night of ‘sleeping on it’ about the variable depth setting. Anyhow, it just goes to show what a valuable ONGOING resource video content like yours on You Tube can be. It literally is there for years for people to dip into. Thank you again. Allan
Thanks for the well thought out and highly informative video Dave. After much back and forth in my mind over these and confirmat screws, I have gone ahead and ordered this connector range kit. Not AS painful where I already own the DF 500 machine. I think what sold me is the well thought out jig and stopped bit. Also, being able to use in materials such as melamine where traditional joinery methods don't produce the best strength. Thanks again Dave!
Thanks Youcan Doit! Be aware that using 16mm melamine is a bit hit and miss with some of the connectors. Play around with it to find out the limitations on some scrap first.
Thanks for the detailed video! I've been watching quite some clips about this machine but yours is by far the most complete. Love the closeups and explanation of the fastening hardware as well, they make it really easy to understand how the system works and get some kind of feel for how strong the joints will be. Good job!
Great video Dave especially the outside versus the inside face addendum. I do not want to see the connectors on the inside of my cabinet with the plastic covering and I’ve been trying to figure out a way to use them on the outside. I asked another popular TH-cam woodworker that question him and his response was it was not designed to be on the outside but designed to be on the inside. Clearly that is not the case. Thanks so much!
I have had the 500 for probably 10 years and like many things about it. I will take a look at these when my local Woodcraft store gets them in for the 500. The do have some for the 700 so pretty similar I suspect. These seem fairly slow to use and the hole is huge at 15mm. I think the Knapp connectors used with a biscuit joiner are faster and more economical. The ultimate may be the Lamello Zeta P but it is more costly than the Festool machine wise. It can be used in thinner materials and at different angles too though and the holes when needed ar much smaller. Thanks for the well done video Dave!!!
Based on some quick research it appears that the Festool connectors are $2-3 each in the USA. That gets costly if you need to use 2-3 per joint. It would be interesting to see how 2 regular dominos on the edges and one of these connectors in the middle would work on a say 12" or 300mm upper cabinet side. Or does Festool always recommend at least two of the connectors minimum to make a stronger joint? I don't know that answer. I guess I would have to need later out of shop assembly to add this cost and time. I have not seen quantities of more than 50 connectors, maybe larger quantities are available at a reduced price. I believe the Lamello Clamex / Zeta P connectors are available in up to 1000 piece quantities.
Pocket holes are pretty weak. A guy on youtube did a test between pocket hole screws and a few different joints, and even though he had obviously not allowed the glue to fully cure on the mortise and tenon joints, and had completely screwed up his dowel joints, they were still much, much stronger than pocket screws joints.
I'm looking to get into the festool world as I'm renovating a new home and workshop. Can you use the 500 as a regular domino machine and for making wardrobes, kitchen cabinets and a queen size bed? Or do you need 2 different machines one for cabinetry and the other for regular projects
The 500 will do most of what you require and even the bed. The 700 is for large joinery projects like entrance doors that require a lot more strength in the joints.
by the way what is the make of the cordless drill the bit is in? , it looks like a Festool, but what is the model / make number?, as using this system requires all of Festool 's make of tools, as the dust extractor is the power source, and must be capable of handling the current of the tools it powers.
Hi Dave, I’m wanting to use these connectors at the start of this video for jointing my office bench tops, so end grain butt joints, dry fix obviously, do you feel these are adequate please? I was planning on using one per joint with a couple of dominos on each joint, you opinion would be welcomed please 😊
Hi Dave, No it’ll be a dry fix to enable me to change configuration or infact remove if I sell up and move, just to clarify it’s 26mm bench so cannot use 700 connectors. Do you fell I should use two connectors rather than one please? Obviously your answer is an opinion not “Dave said lol”@@DavidStanton
@DavidStanton I am fitting out my new home and have been tasked with building several pieces of cabinetry and I did some searching for 18mm melamine and found it at Plyco. The cost is comparable and they deliver or I can pick up. They also do various finishes, so I will order through them and build them in my shed. Great video by the way, very informative.
Hi Dave, Have you used 16mm shelving for your workshop with the Domino connections? If so, how did you overcome the minimum thickness material? I am in the process of starting to build some shelving now and was seriously looking at using the Domino connectors
What's that on your kreg jig David, is it an add on timber fence ? Thought about adding something similar to mine. I always flush one edge against the carcase to get the standard 37mm inset for Blum hinge plates. Guessing that's what you've done
Dave, apart from the ability to break the joint down again and again if you wish do you see any other advantages using this system over traditional methods?
If these are used with only wooden dominos and glued up, they are stronger and much more precise than dowels, biscuits and probably stronger than pocket hole screws (they definitely look better) and they are much quicker than a mortise and tenon joint, but probably not as strong. Honestly, if I had deadlines and did woodworking for a living, I would already have one of these machines, even though I think the price is outrageous. I'm currently working on a desk and it is going to be way too big to fit down the narrow hall and around a sharp corner to get it into the bedroom it is going to be in, so I've been working on a way to make it. I'm probably going to go with some form of wedged through tenon. I've never created a wedged mortise and tenon joint so I'm not 100% sure if it will loosen up over time and the desk isn't for me, so I'm working on a few ideas to add a hidden screw that should keep everything tight.The wood is old enough that I (hopefully) shouldn't have any real shrinkage over time.
@@MAGAMAN Biscuits are not stronger than Pocket screws. Biscuits really are only useful on not structural joints that are not taking a load and are really for alignment. Biscuits are a glorified glue joint and just a little bit stronger.
Like all things German. Well engineered, great at what it does, but oh so convoluted. I could knock out 10 mortices with my home made router mortise jig in the time it takes to set up the Festool.
Only need a (U.S.) $900+ tool and a kit that (if I remember correctly) is somewhere between $300 and $600. I do have to admit that it makes a pretty damn nice joint though.
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you are a great teacher David i am a fan
Thanks for the compliment Swakke Van Dingenen!
David -- just took delivery of my DF500 this week. I also bought the connector kit as I plan on building a king size bed frame. I was looking for a tutorial when I remembered your excellent series of videos. My parf guide arrived last month -- I'm now ready to dive headlong into construction. Thanks again sir!
My pleasure Joe Faraone ! You will end up broke but happy!
Lol@@DavidStanton
Hi Dave, just wanted to say that I did watch this video when you first posted it a few years ago. But having literally just bought the connector set for my DF500 a few days ago for a current project, I just watched it again with renewed interest! I particularly appreciated the additional info after your night of ‘sleeping on it’ about the variable depth setting. Anyhow, it just goes to show what a valuable ONGOING resource video content like yours on You Tube can be. It literally is there for years for people to dip into. Thank you again. Allan
My pleasure Allan!
Thanks for the well thought out and highly informative video Dave. After much back and forth in my mind over these and confirmat screws, I have gone ahead and ordered this connector range kit. Not AS painful where I already own the DF 500 machine. I think what sold me is the well thought out jig and stopped bit. Also, being able to use in materials such as melamine where traditional joinery methods don't produce the best strength. Thanks again Dave!
Thanks Youcan Doit! Be aware that using 16mm melamine is a bit hit and miss with some of the connectors. Play around with it to find out the limitations on some scrap first.
Thanks for the detailed video! I've been watching quite some clips about this machine but yours is by far the most complete. Love the closeups and explanation of the fastening hardware as well, they make it really easy to understand how the system works and get some kind of feel for how strong the joints will be. Good job!
Glad it was helpful!
...excellent explanation and also really good camera work - well done.
Great tutorial I got my domino a week ago and my knock down connector set is coming tomorrow. It’s going to be a huge game changer for my business
Thank you Dailey Woodworks ! The domino is simply brilliant!
Great video Dave especially the outside versus the inside face addendum. I do not want to see the connectors on the inside of my cabinet with the plastic covering and I’ve been trying to figure out a way to use them on the outside. I asked another popular TH-cam woodworker that question him and his response was it was not designed to be on the outside but designed to be on the inside. Clearly that is not the case. Thanks so much!
Good point!
I have had the 500 for probably 10 years and like many things about it. I will take a look at these when my local Woodcraft store gets them in for the 500. The do have some for the 700 so pretty similar I suspect. These seem fairly slow to use and the hole is huge at 15mm. I think the Knapp connectors used with a biscuit joiner are faster and more economical. The ultimate may be the Lamello Zeta P but it is more costly than the Festool machine wise. It can be used in thinner materials and at different angles too though and the holes when needed ar much smaller. Thanks for the well done video Dave!!!
Based on some quick research it appears that the Festool connectors are $2-3 each in the USA. That gets costly if you need to use 2-3 per joint. It would be interesting to see how 2 regular dominos on the edges and one of these connectors in the middle would work on a say 12" or 300mm upper cabinet side. Or does Festool always recommend at least two of the connectors minimum to make a stronger joint? I don't know that answer. I guess I would have to need later out of shop assembly to add this cost and time. I have not seen quantities of more than 50 connectors, maybe larger quantities are available at a reduced price. I believe the Lamello Clamex / Zeta P connectors are available in up to 1000 piece quantities.
Nice Video, well explained. Thanks. Your german was not sooo bad 😉, but allow me to laugh a bit. Grettings from Bavaria
Glad you enjoyed it!
The addendum was very useful.
happy new year Dave! beats having to glue joints
Happy new year!
👍👏👏👏.
Hard to beat the pocket hole and domino combination though.
Pocket holes are pretty weak. A guy on youtube did a test between pocket hole screws and a few different joints, and even though he had obviously not allowed the glue to fully cure on the mortise and tenon joints, and had completely screwed up his dowel joints, they were still much, much stronger than pocket screws joints.
Your German is excellent ....I love your videos !
Thank you Manu Thomas!
I'm looking to get into the festool world as I'm renovating a new home and workshop. Can you use the 500 as a regular domino machine and for making wardrobes, kitchen cabinets and a queen size bed? Or do you need 2 different machines one for cabinetry and the other for regular projects
The 500 will do most of what you require and even the bed. The 700 is for large joinery projects like entrance doors that require a lot more strength in the joints.
@@DavidStanton thank you David that makes decision making much more easy to know one tool can do it all 😀
Dave, great demo. what maths is involved in putting the grub nut on the inside?
Hey Dave, give this a test against pocket hole screws and see which is the strongest.
Maybe if I get time?
David, great explanation, love your videos
Thanks johnny Breslin!
Fantastic video Dave, love your shop. Now I just need to win the lottery haha.
Thank you.
can you use these connectors on 2 inch boards?
by the way what is the make of the cordless drill the bit is in? , it looks like a Festool, but what is the model / make number?, as using this system requires all of Festool 's make of tools, as the dust extractor is the power source, and must be capable of handling the current of the tools it powers.
Hi Dave, I’m wanting to use these connectors at the start of this video for jointing my office bench tops, so end grain butt joints, dry fix obviously, do you feel these are adequate please? I was planning on using one per joint with a couple of dominos on each joint, you opinion would be welcomed please 😊
An interesting idea and I think they will work well. Are you going to glue as well?
Hi Dave, No it’ll be a dry fix to enable me to change configuration or infact remove if I sell up and move, just to clarify it’s 26mm bench so cannot use 700 connectors. Do you fell I should use two connectors rather than one please? Obviously your answer is an opinion not “Dave said lol”@@DavidStanton
Dave, which dog system are you using? The light blue ones on the apron and other light blue ones els where on the vid, they look good
Interesting point Philip. They are from Yellowbox shed. www.yellowboxshed.com.au
Great video, thanks for posting! What kit/systainer for the 500?
Hi Chris Stromberg. Not sure what you are asking. A bit more detail please.
Dave can you use these connectors on the Aussie 16mm Melamine?
Unfortunately no. The domino cutter just sneaks through.
@DavidStanton I am fitting out my new home and have been tasked with building several pieces of cabinetry and I did some searching for 18mm melamine and found it at Plyco. The cost is comparable and they deliver or I can pick up.
They also do various finishes, so I will order through them and build them in my shed.
Great video by the way, very informative.
That is great info for Aussie woodworkers.
Hi Dave,
Have you used 16mm shelving for your workshop with the Domino connections? If so, how did you overcome the minimum thickness material?
I am in the process of starting to build some shelving now and was seriously looking at using the Domino connectors
Hi Brakar Zacant! 16mm is a struggle as the cutter will poke through.
2:43: Very good pronunciation! 😂
Thanks Hugo Schlonz!
Can You build anything larger than a doll house in that tight garage workshop?
Interesting point Not Interested! Google.
Don't knock a guys workshop.
What's that on your kreg jig David, is it an add on timber fence ? Thought about adding something similar to mine. I always flush one edge against the carcase to get the standard 37mm inset for Blum hinge plates. Guessing that's what you've done
Have a look at the video I did on it. th-cam.com/video/8FmuEFcJJUw/w-d-xo.html
Dave, apart from the ability to break the joint down again and again if you wish do you see any other advantages using this system over traditional methods?
If these are used with only wooden dominos and glued up, they are stronger and much more precise than dowels, biscuits and probably stronger than pocket hole screws (they definitely look better) and they are much quicker than a mortise and tenon joint, but probably not as strong. Honestly, if I had deadlines and did woodworking for a living, I would already have one of these machines, even though I think the price is outrageous.
I'm currently working on a desk and it is going to be way too big to fit down the narrow hall and around a sharp corner to get it into the bedroom it is going to be in, so I've been working on a way to make it. I'm probably going to go with some form of wedged through tenon. I've never created a wedged mortise and tenon joint so I'm not 100% sure if it will loosen up over time and the desk isn't for me, so I'm working on a few ideas to add a hidden screw that should keep everything tight.The wood is old enough that I (hopefully) shouldn't have any real shrinkage over time.
@@MAGAMAN
Biscuits are not stronger than Pocket screws. Biscuits really are only useful on not structural joints that are not taking a load and are really for alignment. Biscuits are a glorified glue joint and just a little bit stronger.
if you need to clamp and glue something that is too small or in a weird space for a clamp? use one or two of these, domino the rest.
Hi Dave
Known festool you’ll probably need a mortgage just to buy a packet .... but as always nice demo Dave
Thanks for the compliment. The original kit is as you would expect but the consumables are pretty reasonable.
Like all things German. Well engineered, great at what it does, but oh so convoluted. I could knock out 10 mortices with my home made router mortise jig in the time it takes to set up the Festool.
Beatuiful joints, but i prefeer minifix just because they are a Lot cheaper! Greetings from Argentina
Thanks for the comment pablo. I produced this video for people who already own a domino 500.
David Stanton i own it, but here in Argentina is so expensive that i make my own Tenons! Great channel, beautiful shop you are my favourite woodworker
Did not mean to offend you. I know a few people who also make their own tenons. Thanks for the compliments!
genious as usual !!!
German DIY Ikea furniture kit 😂
Whit festool have lots of work I don’t like it , what do like is lamello clamex s18 looks very nice and easy...
Only need a (U.S.) $900+ tool and a kit that (if I remember correctly) is somewhere between $300 and $600. I do have to admit that it makes a pretty damn nice joint though.
A very nice joint indeed.
If you are producing a job for hundreds or thousands of dollar it could be well worth it.
Who is your target audience???? How many hobbyist make curb side furniture and flat pack to mail it to family?
No target audience Richard. General info for anyone who wants to, or is thinking about getting this system.