How to service a Ford Model A speedometer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มี.ค. 2022
- The Ford Model A speedometer is one of the few parts of the Model A that Henry Ford outsourced to Stewart Warner, Waltham and others, likely due to it's intricate movement and parts. Today, I'm going to show you how to service the Ford Model A speedometer. If your speedometer needs to be rebuilt, here is the email address of my speedometer rebuild guy- jrnichols642@yahoo.com
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Great work! Thanks for helping out Derek at Vice Grip Garage. Hopefully his Model A won't rot in his field with many of his other cars.
I think he discovered why the Model A is so special, and will get on it sooner.
First comment I posted even before starting to watch the video was for Derek to contact Paul. Much to my surprise he mentioned him close to the end of that video. I wonder what condition that engine is in; everything leaking like a sieve but the little trooper made the whole 700 mile trip! That car deserves a resto; the paint is all flaking off and somehow the interior doesn’t look correct to me? I like that maroon/black combo with the ivory wheels. Wonder if it’s the original colors.
@@vayabroder729 me to
Glad Derek from Vice Grip got a hold of you. For his new soon to be forgotten or sold Model A. Told him you are the Model A Whisperer.
@@danterry6328 Actually at the end of the video Derek said he’s keeping it, restoring it and adding a couple of upgrades.
I’d love for Astra-Werke to be my “guy” for speedometers! He seems to be an expert. Thanks for sharing! The more we know, the longer our Model As will stay on the road! Awesome, Paul!
Part of my Saturday morning routine. Breakfast, coffee and tune in to the Shinn shenanigans!! Your videos are great Paul.
Props for lining up the dash panel screws - tells a good job has been done :)
Next video: How to service a Ford Model A garage door ;P
I love the colors of that car! Thanks for video!
Thank you again Paul. I’m finding your videos very helpful, and finding myself looking forward to the next one!
Derek sent me. Not dissapointed. Absolutely love these ol pieces of art.....great content. Glad to find ya
Thank you Darren!
Nice, straightforward look inside. Always good to see before doing the job oneself. Thanks, Paul.
Ok, the rebuild of VGG's distributor brought me here and got me subscribed, now to enjoy watching more Model A tinkering!
Awesome! thanks!
Nice Job Paul, that Green Screwdriver is one of my favorite sizes good old Xcelite !!
Paul, so glad Derek found out about you and reached out for help. When I saw this video was in my que, I wondered if he knew about you and your channel. And he did, mentioned you in closing out the adventure. He is entertaining with the adventures he puts himself in. Glad another A will be revived.
Paul, very good. I enjoyed this. From what I can tell it's numbered to 80 MPH, but it'll read higher into the numberless area.
Hair has a way of getting around. A half hour ago we pulled a dog hair out of the spaghetti water.
Hahahahaaa!!!
That's funny Paul, framing a speeding ticket, I'm with you. Nice job on the cleaning and lubricating of the speedometer. It's great when you know how to fix these types of things. Gives a person knowledge of how to fix that issue and saves some money too. Great video, thanks for sharing. I wish you and Model T and the rest of your family an awesome weekend.
Thanks for the video. Always good to learn something new
Amazing skill that you demostrate again.
Thanks Dave!
Another Great Job Mister Paul
Thanks Mitch
Very interesting and informative, Paul. Using your and Tina's videos, I'm having a ball sorting out my "New To Me" 29 Tudor. One item at a time! 73 OM!!
Sounds great OM!
Awesome video Paul. That little long-nosed oiler bottle is just too cool! Lovin' the temperature gauge.
I use those oilers a lot!
Well again, Paul never disappoints, bringing us a wealth of knowledge, tips, entertainment, motivation and encouragement to stay in touch with our Model A's. Thanks Paul.
My pleasure Steve!
As i'v said before you are an Excellent Man.
Dwight.
Enjoy all of yours and Tina’s videos. Very informative, thanks!
Thanks Ryne. Next video has your car in it
@@ModelA can’t wait!
Nicely done! Looks a bit more fancy than our dash. The fuel gauge is attached to a bent piece of wire with a cork on the end :)
I followed the advice of Vice Grips Garage and visited your channel. I am glad I did. Well done. I am subscribed, thank you for showing us what you do. I always wanted to purchase a model A, perhaps you will get me off my a** and get to looking.
Welcome aboard Larry! Thank you. Now, get off your a** and buy a Model A!!! Hahaa
Please consider doing a video on installing a temperature guage in a Model A. That will give me one more thing to watch and worry about while touring.
Great videos as always 👌 👏
You have a very good dose of common sense.
You can use a very very small drop of Gun lock tite on to keep things in place and still get them loose again 🎉 with relative ease it is not a super glue at all.
If careful mild Loctite is very good.
My speedometer does the same thing, so I'm going to take it partially apart to regrease it too. Thanks a bunch, paul
Recent subscriber. Great channel
I have a 1928 AA Dump Truck. Been working on it for 45 years. Wood Industries hydraulic dump. A cool thing I did with it once. Jacked up one wheel, flat belt on the tire and ran my cutoff saw to cut fire wood. The old truck has retrieved many a Christmas tree. I built it from scratch using salvaged trucks and parts.
Awesome!!
Great video as always! Your videos are sooo helpful as I am a first time model A caretaker. Just acquired an actual "Barn Find" 1929 standard coupe that runs like a sewing machine and moves under it's own power. Needs a LOT of TLC before she hits the road. Any hints on repairing/replacing the top and body wood? Thanks again for what you and Model T do.
Love the sport coupe!
Me too!
Paul,
New subscriber here, but nearly as old as these wonderful cars.
Afraid to say I've never had any inclination to own an old car. Since surviving several anxious years with a 1964 MG in the late 60s, when every trip was a gamble on whether or not it would start, i grew accustomed to (ie spoiled by) cars that just start and go every time theyre asked, and theres a lot to be said for that.
Nevertheless, cars of this vintage have so much damn CHARM that since discovering your channel recently i have actually started to fantasise about swapping my Toyota Hilux and Lotus Elise for one of these late 20s machines so i can make my escape from the bank in proper style each week, albeit without the Tommy gun. The idea of actually being able to recover from a breakdown with nothing more than a hammer, a screwdriver and a piece of sandpaper is very alluring.
Sad to say, the number of Model A's for sale here in Australia is as limited as my mechanical skills, with only 6 on offer right now, and all of them at ridiculous prices and glitzed up to billy-o.
So for the time being, I have to content myself with some of your many videos, which are thoroughly enjoyable and educational. At ths tender age of 75, I am finally discovering what my old man took for granted, and wondering why it has taken me so long to see the light. Thanks for the many idle hours of learning and dreaming. Keep 'em coming!
Thank you mate! I sure hope you get to plop yourself in a Model A soon. Keep the faith!
I'm an old school instrument guy from way back. I finished my apprenticeship at Flexdrive Instruments in Melbourne Australia back in 1980. Flexdrive was the Australian arm of Stewart Warner. I've been repairing and restoring instruments for 40 some years and a year or so ago I was given a pretty shagged out speedo and switch set from a '24 Studebaker. It had Stewart Warner on the dial but it was made by someone else, don't remember who.
I'd never seen the insides of this type of speedo before though the Studebaker speedo was much bigger than yours and included a trip odometer.
When I took the Studebaker apart I have to admit, I was taken aback at how unnecessarily complex a machine it was in relation to the work it had to do.
The body of both the switch set and the speedo were made of die-cast, I think you Americans call it pot metal, and it had swollen and cracked. Suffice to say that it required a major rebuild that tested my skills. In the Studebaker the speedo's main shaft was driven at an angle, not straight down like your model A. So I was kinda hoping you were going to take it apart more deeply so I could see the internals. But I saw enough while you had it in your hands spinning it up with the drill.
In the Studebaker the angled main shaft had a small pinion gear at the top driving a die-cast crown gear attached to the magnet which would turn the speed-cup. (dial). This seemed to me like a major week point in the design since the pinion gear was steel and the crown gear was die-cast. So I was going to warn you to check the crown gear for wear and lube it also. But the design of this speedo is different to the Studebaker so you don't have that weak crown gear. Anyways, when I saw the title of this video my eyes opened wide and I rushed to check it out because it's what I do.
BTW, even though I'm in Oz, that email address for your speedo guy might come in handy if he's willing to help a fellow speedo guy across the pond with spares or wisdom.
Pretty cool you helped old deeick at vice grip garage. He picked up a nice old a. Needs some work but it's all there. I want a body like he's got. Nice ride!
Nice simple fix. Nice to work on metal parts instead of plastic like modern cars.
Hi Paul, had a tight oval speedometer, so much so it broke the cable, pulled the speedometer out and found it was very tight in the main shaft, the bevel gear is pressed and peened on the shaft so I made a special press jig to remove the shaft. Found it wasn’t so much the tightness of the shaft but the pot metal frame had grown over time binding up the shaft, a little reliving and I pressed it back in with the same jig and a little loctite and now it spins smooth.
Love your videos keep them coming.
Nice work!! Yes, lubricated pot metal does tend to swell over time. Great catch on your part.
Thank you again. I knew the fame from being friends with Derek wouldn't change the quality of your content or your friendliness towards us common folk.
"Fame"?? Hahahaaa! I'm most definitely not famous. Still the same old slob who is obsessed with Model As.
Wow, I was impressed by the lighting, but glasses cam too! Watch out Stephen Spielberg!
Another great video! 👏
PS. Maybe your shop door could use a little lubricant as well. 😉
Well Paul, the speedo in my 95 Mercedes stopped working so, after a 1/2 a day I had it on the bench but had no idea how to fix it.. sooo, I sent it to an electronics fella that wanted a fortune for a chip to put in it. So I bought a 2nd hand one.. now I use the GPS on my phone for my speedo. Thanks Paul, god bless you and yours.
Thanks, Yhen! God bless
Appreciate your videos sir!
Thanks Chris
nice job
Hey Paul just wanted to let you know that I found you through Derek and vice grip garage he plugged you I checked out your channel and subscribe just wanted to share the love I’ll be checking out your videos as well be safe keep on wrenching
Thank you Alex! Sharing the love right back.
I take apart clockwork inside a Pyrex dish so no screws or springs can get lost.
Great video, I was wondering if you could sometime show a video or mention how to wire the under dash panel lite. Thanks Greg Happ from Freedom Pennsylvania
Thank you my 30 has quit altogether and I'll do this when I check the cable.
Hi Paul - if you're ever looking for a topic, how about a video on how to downshift a Model A? I've seen descriptions but never a video. As one who cannot downshift one, I know I'd appreciate it! Please keep up the good work!
I already did one, Steve. Here is a link- th-cam.com/video/oDCJ2ARHQwI/w-d-xo.html
Hey Paul, a fella named Derick Berrie gave you a shout out and said to check your channel out! This was a great video.
Thank you for following orders! Ha ha! Derek is awesome.
I'm glad i'm not the only guy who hates messing with that dash panel! I tape around mine before I mess with it. That way when the screwdriver slips and rips the tape and scratches the dash, I can take the tape off and remove more paint!
That sounds about right!
Just bought a 29 model a. I’m so excited after years of looking. Can you recommend maintenance tech books or manuals to buy. And who you like for parts.
Congratulations!!! Start with the Les Andrews "red book" available from MAFCA.com
Hi Paul. I saw that Vice Grip Garage gave you a nice acknowledgement for helping him drive his Model A from Des Moines to Kentucky! I had thought to encourage him to contact you, but when I saw he had over 9 thousand messages.....decided my thread would just get lost....Thanks for helping him....
Well, your last name gets you instant attention here!
@@ModelA :)!
Would you recommend installing a temperature gage for a daily driver? Or are you fine without. Also what about installing a oil filter because I have been changing the oil every 500+ miles. I’m driving a 1931 Ford model A fordor. I only drive about 80 to 100 miles a week.
Great video, as usual. I'm still tying to watch all your older videos.
The speedometer on the 30 Fordor I drive doesn't work. I've used Speedbot but it really drains my battery. I'm nervous about taking it apart, I'll probably get a "Guy" to restore it.
Stay well and safe.
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Paul, Good on you for showing the lube of a speedometer. But isn't there a little felt plug you can remove with tweezers and oil? I also have a 1931 Sport Coupe and I seem to remember a felt plug. If you have a spare you could check this and not remove the one in your car. I have driven my car 60,000 miles since a 1980 restoration and sad to say it does not look nearly as nice as your car. However it is still my favorite and fun to drive. David Adair
Very interesting episode Paul and I know you’re a fellow broadcast engineer when you reached for your “greenie”.
Guilty!
In this video you showed a circuit breaker on your fuse block. Are these resettable in case it trips? Where can one be purchased? Thanks and love the videos.
They self reset after so many seconds. Available from Bert's. Tell Steve I sent you!
Hi Paul why did you not lubed the speedometercable while it was open and looking you right in the face. Great job and very educational Kind regards Filip from Belgium
Nice! Is the process similar for an early 1930 oval Speedo? Mine bounces around a lot. Also it was fun to see you help our Derek at VGG with his A!
Almost the same. Close enough. Bouncing speedo usually means a worn or dry cable though.
Where is that circuit breaker available. I would love to buy one. Thank you
If I remember right my Speedo stops around 35 mph. Thanks for the video
That was really useful Paul! I've just bought a 31 Fordor, and the Speedo sticks, and only wakes up by tapping it when on the move! Also it's missing the odometer! Not too sure how to solve that though?
Send it out and have it rebuilt and missing parts replaced. Well worth it.
Ah. I bought a rebuilt one made by North-East before I realised your one is different! I guess the one in your vid is a Stewart Warner? I've yet to remove the one in my car, so I'm hoping both makes fit ok?@@ModelA
great now i know how fix a Speedo
Hi Paul
Usefull video, like usually. I have an 1930 Model A. I use my car every Sunday. Please tell me a tip how can I easily disconnect the auto’s electricity of my battery without take off the car terminal. I need to know this for protecting against the discharge battery.
Sorry for my english and thank you!
If you have the fuse holder installed on the starter, just remove the fuse.
Hello Paul. Derrick sent me!
Welcome! Any friend of Derek's is welcome here.
There's a reflection of another classic car on the door. What is the other car, looks cool
I think you have Derek from Vice Grip Garage as your best friend now!
Ha ha! He sure is worthy of BFF ! What a nice guy.
I enjoyed that video but I was very puzzled when I noticed it has 2 shifters and a hand brake so if you could explain why I would appreciate it also I am curious you have a temperature gauge which causes me to wonder did the model A have a thermostat and where is it located if it does I have a Ford 8N tractor and it has a thermostat in the radiator hose so if I put a temperature gauge on it I have to remember to push the thermostat inside the hose first and then my temperature gauge housing inside so it reads the temperature at the hottest point so I am curious if Ford did the same thing on the model A thermostat?
Thanks from 🇨🇦
Model As did not come with a thermostat
Hey Paul. My speedo works ok but the mileometer doesn't roll over. Any ideas as to why? Thanks Mike
Paul, New subscriber here. I recently bought a 29 Tudor and your videos have been very helpful to me. I got my speedo working well but it reads about 8-9 mph high. when the speedo reads 50mph I'm actually only running about 42mph. Is there a way to adjust it?
It can be adjusted, but not exactly by end user. considering it is reading high, I'd show it off!! My speedometer rebuild guy is "Papa Nick". You might email him and ask what he thinks. jrnichols642@yahoo.com
@@ModelA ha! That's one way to look at it! Thank you!
How about a video on the ODOMETER? My ODO is sticking and turning over FOUR digits at once! For example, 2274 to 3385 ( a jump of 1111 all at once! ) Thanks 😀
I was meaning to take apart my speedometer because mine sometimes fluctuates a lot. I’m thinking it’s the coil spring that’s bad or like you mentioned, it needs a little cleaning and oil.
Sounds like it needs lube. Lube the cable too
Sorry I have a 29 special coop is there a place you recommend finding information on this it seems like there’s a lot of information not available on the special cool
Nice job. Next project, fixing your model A squeaky garage door 🤣 All kidding aside, your A in this video looks really sharp under the shop lights 😎👍
Thanks! That's why the auto auctions put those lights everywhere. It makes every car look better!
Good vid Paul, although you may need to lube up your overhead garage door. Sounds alittle noisey, lol. Stay safe, Terry.
Ummm... Maybe. Ha!
At 13:58 you said it was an OCD thing but you like to line your screws up. Do you like the Horizontal or Vertical....just curious.
It all depends on the car.
@Paul Shinn, you need to get over to the Ford Barn, you've been away so long folks think you've crossed the River Jordan! No joke, a guy just lamented your passing!
Ha ha! Well, after some lid over there demanded that I only make videos because I have a huge ego, that was it. That lid doesn't know me or anything about me, and couldn't have been farther from the truth. That doesn't seem to matter on FB. Loudest, meanest one wins. I don't want to participate in that.
Paul, your videos are helpful and modest. People say those things when they have p.... envy. Unfortunately, so many people want to poke others in the eye.
Paul, I wasn't aware of that. I'll admit there's many "Curmudgeons" over there. I got cross wired with several there when I started posting. I'd ask a question and it'd be a race there to tell me to do a search. I can do a search on Google, why would I go to a forum and do one?
I actually quoted Kentucky Representative David Crockett, telling them I'm going to Texas and they can all go to H€[[, but it got deleted.
Keep up the great work 👍
I'm sorry that happened to you. That is a rough place it seems. But instead of complaining about it, I just avoid it. I'm way too positive and excited for Model As to have some lid steal that from me.
A few years ago I got a speeding ticket while going down hill in my 1919 model T. The officer said I was going 50 in a 45. The judge laughed and said that’s impossible.
Hahaaaa!!!! Well done man.
Can you use that CBF-12v fuse block on a 6v system?
Absolutely!
Hi Paul, great video as always :) I replaced the cable on mine and it didn't read miles or anything else that made sense (I don't recall if it read 'under' or 'over').... then the new cable snapped not long after that.... so I just put a little GPS behind the steering wheel on a bracket (i.e. I cheated). Are their gears etc maybe down the bottom end of the cable that can be changed or is the problem of the wrong reading more likely to be in the speedo? Thanks, Antony. p.s. Love your channel!
The drive gear is at the front of the drive shaft, just behind the u-joint. You can change drive gears, as they make different drives for the different rear end gear ratios. My guess is that it is in the speedo, but you never know.
@@ModelA Thanks Paul! I'll start with the speedo and work my way back from there. p.s. I used my Model A as a 'daily drive' for a few months while I fixed my slightly younger 35 year old car. As I would drive around in the 'A' I would see people looking & smiling and I recalled the line from your videos "Model As put smiles on people's faces" - they sure do! :) Happy Model Aing :)
Paul, any reason why you aren't running engine pans on your Sport Coupe?
After the last set broke, I stopped putting them on. It never even gets close to overheating anyway, so saving myself some grief.
Great job, how you are feeling, better?
I am! Thank you
@@ModelA that's good to hear
Hi Paul. Got a 30 model close can pickup. Just starting the process. Not a hot rod but hydraulic brakes and gos shocks so far. I will do some updates but not much. Thanks for your vids. Check it out.
Right on!
So what would be very helpful for me I finally got a speedometer for my 29 but it didn’t have a cable the one that was in it was not the right cable I purchase a new cable but I’m not sure about where it runs through the firewall it seems to me like it’s been too much and about the first time I drove it after I installed a new cable and the spoon amateur I hear a click click and I’m nothing works again
Paul it looked like the temp gauge wasn't working. I don't see the link for your speedo guy...Pat
It works. The car wasn't warmed up yet is all and it was freezing cold outside. In the video description, here is a snippet- "here is the email address of my speedometer rebuild guy- jrnichols642@yahoo.com"
So if you had to spray cleaner in it, what would it be? Also, is Hyper-lube available in all lower 48? I live in Minnesota, so looking for an equivalent lube. Don't really need it, just want to do maintenance that may have been neglected in the 60 years before I acquired my '31 standard Coupe.
I'm not sure that spraying cleaner in it would work. It might booger up the display. Hyper lube is available at O'Reilly's, Auto Zone, etc. But just about any thick, non hardening, sticky oil will work.
@@ModelA thanks for the reply. I enjoy your videos, they are very informative. My Dad bought the Model A I own now in 1960, (12 years before I was born) so I grew up with it. That being said, I am still running into things I'm not sure about. I appreciate your videos and responding to comments. Keep up the great work!
I’m having trouble with my speedometer cable, I noticed that in this video the cable end is pretty much flush with the cable housing, mine slips down into the housing and then doesn’t engage the speedometer. Am I missing a washer?
It kinda sounds like your inner cable may be too short
What do you recommend to cure a noisy cable that's in good condition? What Lubricant?
I use speedometer cable lubricant. admittedly, my tube is pretty old. Not sure if it is available anymore. In tye field, I detach the speedometer cable from the torque tube and remove the inner cable. Then, clean it off (I use gas, but people give me flak for that). Then, rub red wheel bearing type grease all over the whole cable and reinstall. Done!
@@ModelA Rick Black here - I've also heard that the red grease works well on speedometer cables. I have a tube of it too. Thanks!
Mine doesn't "stick" but it doesn't read properly. If it reads 40, I'm doing about 45. It loses a bit of the sync as I pass 20. Does this repair fix every issue? Lube fixes all?
Or for this issue do you have a different option? Thanks.
Your might just need calibration.
I have never seen a breaker like that where your fuse is next to the starter. Can you please give us a little more info on that?
All the Model A parts vendors sell them.
@@ModelA I'll look again, but the only thing I have seen is the glass 30 amp fuse.
@@MicroRotors Here is one modelastore.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=4124&search=Circuit+breaker&category_id=0
A suggestion which may save grief. I cover the dash area under the removable panel with masking tape before freeing it. This eliminates the chance of any paint scratches while working on the backside when disconnecting the wires or the speedo cable. Ask me how I learned that tip. 🙁 Visit Adrian at Astre Werk here on TH-cam for an excellent video detailing the refurbishment and repair of his Model A’s speedometer.
I’m impressed with the glasses cam video quality. Details ? I may pick up a pair. Thanks, an excellent video as always. A final question, is your mailing address published? I see folks are often donating items. More than once, I’ve had something in hand and thought, I should send this on to Paul.
The glasses cam is a little dark compared to the iphone camera, but very detailed. Took me almost 3 months to figure out how they worked. They need to come with a 12 year old to show you hot to work them. Mailing address is on the "about" tab. Thank you, Myrl!
Hello Paul and Model T. My Name is Bill Harte and I live in Ashburn Virginia. My wife (Nadia) and have been watching (subscribed to) your channel since forever. We are about to take possession of a 1930 Fordor this Friday Oct 28. My
passion is vintage cars (although this 1930 will be my oldest). This Model A will be my daily driver (I dont do modern cars). Paul, I was wondering what your background is as you have many skills. I myself have an engineering background, but it gets in the way from time to time. I always wish to be better. P.S. Nadia does the modern car thing. I dont want her to pick me up all the time.
Guess what? It's engineering!! Of the electrical variety. I design, build, and maintain radio and TV stations
@@ModelA Thank you ! We are from the same background ... this explains things for me, Thank you ! I was previously in England (25 years) and I was in the Bristol Austin7 club. We had 1 Model A... I was always smitten with the car.
Where can I get a letter kit for my 1931 speedometer?
Last time I looked, here- www.mikes-afordable.com/product/A17255B.html And here- www.mikes-afordable.com/product/A17255A.html
@Paul Shinn, What if a person does not have a small green screw driver? HA!HA!
Then paint your smallest one green???
why didn't you lube the speedo cable?
It was already well lubed.
My speedo operates but it is not accurate -its off by about 5 mph- is there an adjustment?
Also I asked a police officer at a Model A day last year if he would just write me a speeding ticket for the sole purpose of framing it - he looked at me like I was crazy and walked away ! Haha………..
You might reach out to Adrian on his Astre Werk channel if you would prefer attempting to make a repair rather than sending the unit to a shop. You’ll see his comment earlier. I expect the speedo works on the spinning magnet principle as was common with older technology. The spinning magnet generates a magnetic field which is opposed by a calibrated spring attached to the indicator dial. A delicate adjustment for sure. For this reason, I’m careful never to use magnetic screwdrivers or such near instruments out of concern in inducing magnetism in the mounting screws or case. This is something which we pay attention to in aircraft.
Yeah, never miss an opportunity to lube anything mechanical while you have it apart. You'll regret it later. Never enough time do it now, but you'll have to make time later! Cheers!
Need to lube your garage door Paul 😂
I know....
Who is you speedometer rebuild guy?
Papa Nick. link in the description
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I would use a GPS as a speedometer until is brakes in and reading right.
I thought one should only use graphite powder in a speedometer ?
No, that is for locks
Paul I be send u a vide by Facebook,please have a look tell me what you think 🙏
I don't do Facebook. Tina does.
My odometer stuck tonight. We'll find out tomorrow
Hope it is an easy fix
@ModelA Thanks Paul. Your video gave me the confidence to disassemble. Took it apart and nothing looked broken. Sprayed gears with WD40 and blew it out. 3 in 1 oil on gears and reassembled. Works great. Perfect weather todsy and got 30 miles after lunch and 20 tonight. I don't think it has ever run and ridden better. Thanks for all you do. Tom