Homosexuality in Christianity and Islam - Being gay in the Bible and Quran
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One advantage that Christianity has over Islam is that it is not a legalistic religion, thus making change possible depending on the context and situation. But like Islam, it clearly condemns homosexuality in it’s texts including the New Testament.
Good. It also condemns incest and bestiality.
What's the context for slavery in the bible?
Nah Christianity definitely condemns it. We should be loving to everyone but that doesn't mean you accept sin
It changes based on the desire of men what was the word a tolerance 😂😂 the bible become 100% man made to fit his desires not every thing in religion will be to your liking this earthly life is a test it mean it has to be hard on you with satan oath to make all of us go to hell with him .. obviously satan done a pretty damn good job humanity are living in hell already
@@baldwinthefourth4098 they will become tolerate about it soon for their desires
Leviticus 20 vs 13
" If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: THEY SHALL SURELY BE PUT TO DEATH ; their blood shall be upon them."
This is the clear view of homosexuality in the Christian religion. It is very straight forward, it can't be altered.
But unfortunately, Christians always like to say God is love, and he loves everyone no matter who you are. Then the sweep LEVITICUS 20:13 under the rug.
The Christian view is very clear on homosexuality.
Jesus on earth scorned the religious spirited ppl he showed empathy and love to those all humans view as disgusting and he would do the same if he was here while you'd look at them in didgust Jesus would tell you to stop that's the truth
@@GigiReyez you see, this is where the Muslims are better than Christians.
Jesus accept everyone simply because what really matters is your REDEMPTION not your sin.
Someone like you now, will go to a church and preach it's okay to be GAY, after all Jesus showed empathy and love to everyone, if he was Still on earth he will show love to gay person. 🤦
Stop the cap..!!!
Stop deceiving yourself, if you are gay and you not willing to repent, JESUS is not for you.
I Was About To Say The Same Let's Be Fair Both Quran & Bible Condemn Homosexuality So No Half Trues Here Straight To The Point
@@GigiReyezJesus always told them " GO AND SIN NO MORE "
WHY do you ignore that ?
Muslims have to be explained stuff about the Bible again and again and again because they refuse to use their brain. LEVITICUS were laws written down for the Jews at those times. In the new testament homosexuality stays a sin but isnt punished by death cause God is the Judge. The coming of Jesus actually showed that no one is without sin and therefore cannot simply blame others for things. “Let the one without sin cast first. homosexuality will be punished when we stand before God.
There is no argument on whether God forbids homosexuality in the bible. Any attempt to force a positive light on homosexuality out of the bible is a direct attack on its author.
The bible is a man-made book with man-made wisdom (Kain and Abel) and man-made errors :
+ the Earth wasn't there before the sun
+ Adam and Eve didn't exist
+ insects have six legs not four legs
+ homosexuality is not a seduction by a satan, but a natural born healthy sexual orientation with an evolutionary meaning
+ the "firmament" is not a solid "roof" over the world
+ the sun can’t be stopped for having longer light in a battle, it already stands still
+ etc etc
If the bible would be the word of god or inspired by god it would be without errors, but it isn't.
It doesn‘t say that the Firnament is solid
Insects have 6 legs although they use the first two also as hands to grap things
Mankind have one ancastor, Evolution never happend
Homsexuallity is not born but rather develops in age when kids grow into adults
@@user-hr8dx9qw4n In reality what you're saying applies 100% to the quran + hadith. Man wrote the bible, but he was certainly NOT its author.
@@Afrocanuk My friend : many generations of men where the authors of bible and quran, based on the knowledge back then.
Thats why there are still man-made errors in the bible and teh quran.
Hom ose xuality is a natural healthy born se xual orientation with an evolutionary meaning.
As a Deist I send you a lot human love :)
Fuck its author
CHRISTIANITY:
01) Pope Francis is gradually closer to say that homosexual practices are not a sin nowadays if you are married to your gay partner.
02) Many pastors are homosexuals and interpret the Bible in a way that it doesn't go against homosexuality nowadays.
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ISLAM: There are gay imams in LGBT-friendly mosques in Berlin, France and South Africa.
If you think that they are not real Muslims, they think that you don't have the real Islam.
Ok, so what does this have to do with the text that dictates doctrines?
1) No, he is not. The Pope very clearly says that the act is a sin, he merely tells parents not to bully their gay children. But the act and lust itself is still sinful.
2) Any pastor or any Priest who affirms homosexuality is a heretic and needs to repent.
@@TandemSix The point is that there are many possible interpretations. It's hard to say what the "real" Christianity/Islam is.
@@electro639 absolute nonsense. Of course you can tell which is the real Christianity. We have the documents written by the first ever Christians and then a loooooooong succession of documents to document how Christians after that generation understood the text. Spoilers alert: it doesn't aline with what liberal "Christians" think. There can be 10 billion interpretations, you can tell which are far fetched and which are not, that's why there are such sciences as hermeneutics, stylistics, pragmatics, literary criticism, etc.
"You lust after men instead of women! You are certainly transgressors.” - Quran 7:81 This speaks for itself. One has to be completely finished in his head in order to twist this into something else.
I only came around your channel today. Great work.😊
Allah created homosexuality to punish his creations for what he gave them. Makes sense.
#logic 😄
Not really; historically, homosexuality was not seen as something that God would approve of by Christians. It is explicitly written "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV
Furthermore, I am not aware of any verse that touches on the topic of tolerance or inclusivity in today's sense. The Israelites were not to oppress the sojourner, the widow or the fatherless. That doesn't mean that they had to tolerate their pagan practices, let alone be inclusive.
This is a false dichotomy: the Bible both condemns homosexuality and teaches to love the other.
However, by loving the other it doesn't mean that you accept everything he/she desires. Even Sigmund Freud pointed out that "An unrestricted satisfaction of every need presents itself as the most enticing method of conducting one’s life, but it means putting enjoyment before caution, and soon brings its own punishment." (Civilization and its Discontents)
If u actually read the Bible, Jesus says u r no longer bound by old laws and to see ur own sins. At the end of the day, it is not ur problem. Where exactly does Jesus say to harass gay people?
@@extrastout1741 I did, 6x the O.T and 7x the N.T.
Book, chapter and verses where Jesus says that you don't have to obey the 10 commandments. Jesus is part of the Trinity. He was there when Sodom and Gomorrah were turned into ashes. He was there when Leviticus was penned down. He was in complete agreement with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. Just as you cannot separate Jesus from the Father and the Spirit, so you cannot separate Jesus' teachings from the ones of His apostles. Just as a matter of fact "Homosexualität had originally been coined in 1869, to provide the writer of a pamphlet on Prussian morality laws with a shorthand for sexual relations between people of the same gender. This, of course, was precisely the category of behaviour that Paul, in his letter to the Romans, had so roundly excoriated, and which Aquinas had defined as sodomy."
Tom Holland, Dominion: the Making of the Western Mind, 432
@@TandemSix Homosexuality is not in the ten commandments. I am not separating Jesus from the Trinity, I am separating in the writings, as the Bible is not the word of God, what is attributed to men and what to jesus. When u take out what Jesus did and said, u do not have hate.
I think u can definitely separate the teachings of God from apostles (people) especially when it is contradictory. Do u not follow Jesus first? Or the church/apostles?
Also at most even if it would be a sin, u r not allowed to be mean to them
@@extrastout1741 the 10 commandments are the bedrock upon which the rest of the law is built. It acts as a framework. What do you mean by "I am separating in the writing"? I have a hard time trying to understand whatever you are saying there. What do you mean by "what is attributed to men and what to Jesus"? What do you mean by "when you take out what Jesus did and said, you do not have to hate"?
Yes you can separate, but then you are a heretic. False dichotomy. For the head of the *Church* is *Christ* , everyone who's read the Epistles knows that.
Where does it say that I am not allowed to be mean? Elijah was very mean to the prophets of Baal. Jesus was very mean with the Sadducees and the Pharisees. Paul was very mean in his introduction to the letter to the church in Galatia. Do you remember? "Oh you foolish Galatians!"
@@TandemSix can you tell me where Jesus says that you as a man is allowed to persecute gay people? I don't think that is his message, I think his message was to love your enemy and see your own sins first. Even if it was a great sin, I don't think you are allowed to be mean.
As a Christian I think you should follow Christ before anyone else.
(And I'm a girl and not Christian, not that it is relevant)
An excellent presentation and interesting topics to ponder about as usual. Please keep up the good work, Adam. Words cannot describe how much your videos mean to me. 😊
You’re welcome my friend. And thank you for your kind words!
You should go back to your roots, Orthodox Christianity, arabs were big into Orthodox at least untill forst half of 10th century when religion of peace forced those who were outside of costal levant and syria and said 'either death convert or slave'..Banu Rabiah was Orthodox till 8th century and converted again in mid 10th century
@@AdamElmasriEnglish ,
Jehova God of Israel is not the same as allah?
Jehova has sons but allah would never.
Psalm 2:7 KJV
I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Sura 112:3
{ لَمۡ يَلِدۡ وَلَمۡ يُولَدۡ }
[Surah Al-Ikhlâs: 3]
Abdul Haleem:
He begot no one nor was He begotten.
Mufti Taqi Usmani:
He neither begot anyone, nor was he begotten.
Dr. Mustafa Khattab:
He has never had offspring, nor was He born.
Like Jesus Christ said heaven and earth will passed But HIS WORDS SHALL NOT PASSED
لا أفهم الانجليزية الى بعض الكلمات التى لديها جذر مشترك مع الغة الفرنسية لكن أسجل لك مشاهدة ليحتسبها اليوتيوب لتصل حلقاتك لكل البشر
الأخ مغربي او جزائري ؟
@@mohamedjear8917 I think he's Moroccan
This is where we are at cultural - "Tolerance becomes the supreme good, the supreme God in the cultures pantheon, in a sphere of existence that often argues by merest cliches and that has very few other widely agreed desiderata. The complicated irony is that those who hold tenaciously to the supreme virtue of this new tolerance are by and large extremely intolerant of those who do not agree with them.... Unchecked, this new tolerance will sooner or later put many people in chains." - Fallen by Christopher w Morgan
I'm a follower of Jesus and he says the most important commandment is to love your God and your neighbor, what this means is the worst thing we can do to one another person is dehumanize someone. But, we should be able to disagree.
As usual, an excellent and objective analysis of the facts and claims. Thank you. ❤❤❤
Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched all in it 11:40
A loving and compassionate religion with a prophet who has countless records of wars that result in the deaths of innocent tribes and people as well as slavery and sex slavery.
But when Christians do, they are heroes
@@samirdizco4111 I don't know what you're talking about.
@@samirdizco4111
You can nail every shit but you can't justify any shit.
@@samirdizco4111 excuses
@@samirdizco4111Christ is the only hero and Saviour of mankind.
Mortal man falls short.❤❤❤
Please, there's nothing complex about homosexuality in the Bible. It clearly prohibited. And strongly tooo
It depends on what Christian denomination you mention. Pope Francis said that Christians should apologize to gays. Catholic Romans are the majority of Christians.
Then, there are many protestant churches were the pastors are homosexuals. Therefore, clearly it's not clear.
Don't come with a "They're not real Christians" because they think that you are not the real Christian.
@Electro 電王 Read my comment again and check if I appealed to Christianity or the Bible. Different denominations can say whatever, depending on the politics of the day. But the Bible is VERY CLEAR. Homosexuality is an abomination before God.
Where can you find "Pope" in the Bible. Again, truth has nothing yo do with numbers.
Good.
@@electro639 I have already refuted that. The Pope never said homosexuality is not a sin. And the protestants who affirm homosexuality are heretics as they go against the clear biblical teaching and Church Doctrine.
@@electro639 Looks like god changed its mind... again.
The most important thing is what reliance of the traveller says about it. In the end they're all moving aside for sharia.
Amazing 👏👏
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Hi Rainbow
Christianity is dying and that's a good thing
In your dreams. Christianity is strong. :) You will return to Jesus soon.
love😍😍😍😍😍😍
There's a difference between Godly love and lustful love.
Some people believe that devils inside push people in homosexuality ...
It's the truth. I have seen a homosexual Christian being delivered from demons.
The demons said they made him love men 😢😢😢
I tend to agree with that
Brother, You have very good knowledge!
If you wouldn't mind and have the time, I'd love to livestream with you.
I am personally from Germany and also live in Germany!
German society is not really enlightened as far as Islam is concerned.
I think it is important that the German public learns more about what Islam really means.
I would be really happy if we could do something together.
Your blind hatred for Islam and Christianity is because you are gay. You have brought out all the ignorant interpretations in Islam without sanad or reliability. You quote extremely unreliable sources. These sources are challenged and disputed by moslems. But because you an angry guy born from a moslem family, you have chosen to take out your bitterness and ignorance on Islam. You have a lot of inferiority and believe that you will gain respect from the west and selling them what they would love to hear. I wish you had the guts to speak about homosexuality in Arabic to an Arab audience. But you don't dare. You would rather sing the praises of western values...you don't fit in anywhere.
This person is a liar that he does not know Islam
@@user-tt4ei9eg4tIslam will send you to the lake of fire for Eternity like Mohammed ❤❤❤
@@user-tt4ei9eg4t❤
Greetings Sir. Considering your extensive knowledge, which i admire, I am pushed to question how you could even think homosexuality is a complex topic in the bible. Even the book of Leviticus which you cited, clearly calls for death penalty for homosexuals.
So the argument here is basically "ignore the actual words, and focus on what you think was going on in the culture instead". If you do that, you are free to invent whatever religion you like, and call it "Christianity" or "Islam". The Bible does teach that we are to love all people, but that love without morality isn't really love.
Religion should be eternal if not it is not true so if the book say no it is a no .. don't go around it
I must strongly disagree with you on this even if I'm a fan of you sir.
Homosexuality is a great sin in Christianity, God strongly condemns it, it's was a pagan practice and thus it's not so much mentioned in the Bible.
Thats why Im glad to be a atheist.
@@pinguy2334Are you a gay atheist?
@@mattpowell6291 Straight atheist.
@@pinguy2334 ok
Is god saying anything about it now??? He's mighty quiet.
Christianity is accepting of all, for we are all sinners BUT we are supposed to repent and let go of our sins and be new and pure and salt to the world.
What do you think of Saudi Arabia no longer asking people to declare their sexual orientation or marriage status to tourists?
It's a great move towards tourists and trying to be more friendly towards the western world. I hope, however, that Saudi takes the same approach with their own citizens one day!
@@AdamElmasriEnglish😅 clearly you don't know nor have a relationship with God since you are wishing people eternal Damnation in the lake of fire
Let's even Keep the Bible and the Quran aside.. let's assume there are no such laws that pertains to same sex marriage in the Bible and the Quran...
Let's visit science...
Is it scientifically ok for us to have unnatural sex
??
Common sense and logic should also guide us...
unnatural haha how many things in your house is natural? are ivf or hospital treatments surgery drugs natural?
There are no contradictions in the scriptures, but interpreters introduce their own nuance to the injunction s.
On this very video i got infosys lgbt supporting ad
Please go one a Debate with Mohammed Hijab.
As a Christian i can say that guy is Homosexual because he is an ex muslim and the Bible were also don't accept Homosexual 1Timothy 1:10
1Corinthian6:9
@@keiven2384 I can see that he's disingenuous. Muslim and Christian may bicker but we stand hand in hand against lgtv+ agendas
@@keiven2384at the end of the day you still can't condemn him he could end up going heaven whilst you go hell remember that
@@GigiReyezthat's a huge lie any habitual homosexual will go to hell. Alao any habitual fornication and adultery in heterosexuals will go to hell
700 years of inquisition. There is your christian compassion
Were they all Christians? Do you know what a Christian is?
Show me where in the new testament did it say inquisition was right?
Nowhere. In Christianity, I have come to realise that bad men do bad things putting on the mask of Christianity- a wolf in sheepskin.
I thought it was the same for islam but it wasn't - its a wolf in the dark ink of the Quran.
@IIOO i can guarantee you that the people, as you say IN THE CHURCH, are not those you think. That would be the foundation of the church. Since forever the celibacy laws have created b¥tt fu(kers amongst priests and monasteries. They even found cemeteries full of syphilis bones from medieval christian monasteries/monks. How do you think all those choirboys got mollested?? That was priests. And its god how gave them the re-erection of the flesh and their second cumming
There is a sense of 'pride' that a 'Masri' speaks up about the Abrahamic religions in a critical manner. I believe you should do it in Arabic so other people from different social backgrounds can be educated or to give them something to think about. The Arabic people and the Egyptian people need to hear this in their tongue language. And while you're at it... can you debunk 'The Exodus' story? I believe it is one of the main reasons Egyptians are not proud or respectful to our beloved mythologies and civilization.
Unfortunately, the attempts by folks like Kugle, Jahangir, and Abdullatif to recast the story of Lūt do not succeed. It is true that the narrative condemns the men of the Cities of the Plain for disrupting assemblies, dacoity, and demanding to have sex with the angels disguised as men (which might be taken as an intent to commit sexual assault). However, it is also true that the act of approaching men in lust instead of women is also condemned in no uncertain terms. (I’m a gay ‘cultural’ Muslim btw, and I wish my answer could be different).
Homosexuality is literally one of the major sins in all the three abrahamic religions! I am Amex-Muslims but don’t try to push in your own narrative and try to make these religions sound tolerant towards homosexuals! If they go against the Quran, than those Hadith’s must be disregarded according to Islam itself.
What you're trying do Mr Adam is to spread corruption in religion. It's ok not to want to follow any religion if you think you cannot handle the laws. Just shut up while doing it. If you dont want to abide by the laws of any country, just leave. Are you the lawgiver now? I see how you attempt to twist the words of the bible, using the word love as an allowance for every prohibited act. I am against killing someone because they are gay or an adultrer or adultress, or chopping someone's hand because they still something, but like i said the law of a country should be adhered to. Religion and politics should never mix
I'm concerned that this religion could become to be a threat to humanity in the future, cuz these arrogant Muslims are united by faith but not the country. Adam, what are your thoughts on this? It is in Quaran to stand up against and topple the current system if goes against Islamic values.
Which is a threat?? Have you seen Christians killing homosexuals???
You saying that muslims are united by faith is WRONG. They have been killing eachother (Shias and Sunnis) since Muhammad's death. Just because they are loud, does not mean they are united.
نحنا بنتظرك لا تغيب الأكثر
Just started watching the video, but hearing you use the term lgbt+ is kind of cringy. Are you a politician now? Please stay above it. I will now listen further and continue watching the video.
Just watched the whole video. Your use of liberal terms like 'inclusivity' and equating homosexual behavior with homosexuals, as if ones sexual preference defines who you are, seem very political to me.
What about homosexuality in Jewish religion ?
Bible apparently mention in old testament :
Book of Deutronomy chap 22 verse 5 :
That the woman shall not worn a cloth that is pertain to a man and vice versa for all do's they are abomination to the god
Book of Trimedhi chap 2 verse 9 and Book of Corinthians chap 11 verse 5-6 :
Do Veil [Hijab] if the female don't cover their caput her head is shaved off
Small fix Nigeria death penalty for gays is not nation wide it only basically exists in the Muslim majority states. Uganda is the only Christian nation that has death penalty for gay people.
Lol, from slandering about islam into promoting lgbt propaganda.
What next? Tolerance for santanic ritual?😂
Man committed shameless acts??! Shameful acts right? Or acted shamelessly ?! If it truly says shameless acts… well god makes no mistakes, than there is no shame in it.
@IIOO 😂😂😂😂😂 thats just wrong on all levels.Thats real skill. So many mistakes in one sentence
@IIOO ofcourse you dont. Thats just perfect
Adam can i ask a few questions i always wanted you to answer and fix things you said
1- considering you are an atheist and don't beleive that god exsists and that all religions are human crafts
Then why do you care soo much about exposing religion and what benefit would you gain from this because with your logic you are only loosing time from your life researching fairytales ( according to u) insted of just enjoying life
2-
Yes the people of lot PBUH did commit more sins that homosexuality
But the surah al araf versus is enough to show that one of these sins is them lusting after men
+ The sahih hadeeths wich clearly warn about homosexuality also exsist wich can you please explain why you didn't even touch them?
Yes as you said there are weak hadeeths being used wich i know is wrong but what about the rest of hadeeths?
Narated By Abdullah ibn Abbas : If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death.
Sunan Abu Dawud 38:4448
Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man should not look at the private parts of another man, and a woman should not look at the private parts of another woman. A man should not lie with another man without wearing lower garment under one cover; and a woman should not be lie with another woman without wearing lower garment under one cover.
Sunan Abu Dawud 31:4007
Narrated AbuHurayrah: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man should not lie with another man and a woman should not lie with another woman without covering their private parts except a child or a father. He also mentioned a third thing which I forgot.
Sunan Abu Dawud 31:4008
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet cursed effeminate men; those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, "Turn them out of your houses." The Prophet turned out such-and-such man, and 'Umar turned out such-and-such woman.
Sahih Bukhari 7:72:774
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet cursed effeminate men and those women who assume the similitude (manners) of men. He also said, "Turn them out of your houses." He turned out such-and-such person out, and 'Umar turned out such-and-such person.
Sahih Bukhari 8:82:820
And more and more so i really don't get your argument and honestly it isn't convinceing
this is actually crazy how christianity has fallen
You are mistaken. Christianity has a clear stance about homosexuality... IT IS NOT ENCOURAGED. IT IS A SIN. Christianity is strong. Christinity does not have to brag how many converts we get like Islam does because we do not need to.
christianity is insignificant and warped to fit the secular narrative@@wandering_circles7487
This man should be sent to a country where they will straighten him well.
Homosexuality is not given death penalty in Nigeria
It is given jail term
Nigeria is not a Muslim nation it's a cecular nation
Whatever it says, jesus came to preach love ur enemy and those without sin should throw the first stone. So even if u think it is a great sin, it is not ur business as a christian. The passages about being a sin come from men and the passages about tolerance are directly attributed to God by Christian view. I find this with a lot of other topics including women, modesty etc. If u just take what Jesus did/say, I think it is compatible with current liberal values.
Absolute nonsense. Data, without it you are just another man with an opinion
No, that is not true. It's not "None of my business". When a man sleeps with his sister, should I also not say anything because "It's none of my business" and because Jesus said that the one without sin should throw the stone?
What logic. Yes, we are all sinners, but this does not mean I shouldn't condemn sin when I see it.
@@baldwinthefourth4098 he told you to see your own sins before pointing out the sins of others. Where does it say, you should point it out?
@@extrastout1741 That's true. But where does it prohibit me from condemning another person's sins after understanding my own sins? Where does it say that?
If we go by your logic, like I said, if a man sleeps with his sister, then we would have no right to condemn him for that. That is obviously not the case/
@@baldwinthefourth4098 does the Bible have to mention sleeping with your sister or mother? No, we have the ability to tell right from wrong. Atheist/non abrahamic countries have laws.
I understand it as you take care of your own sins first and then you mendle with others. Similar to 'those without sin should throw the first stone'. I think you can pray for people if you want but not hate. I don't think it is your business.
I feel like you’re really fixated with Islam, judging from your other videos it’s almost like you have a vendetta with the Muslims.
Why not compare with what the Jewish take on homosexuality is?
Bro, make love not war.
You’re making us look bad.
Honestly all my Muslim friends have been so friendly, hospitable, decent folks.
There are good muslims.. But Islam teaching is awful.
I hate Islam but never in my heart would hate muslims automatically for that.
Learn your scripture. Your friends are kind muslims because they clealy have no clue of the real face of Islam.
Can't believe you didn't mention the obviously gay relationship between David and Jonathon as described in the Bible -this has led to a Jewish lady who wrote a biography of king David several decades ago to exclaim "If that wasn't a homosexual relationship then I don't know what a gay relationship is!" Even in the reign of king Louis XIV in France -the most Catholic and autocratic of kings a play with music was written which portrayed the relationship between the two biblical figures as a gay relationship "David et Jonathan' by Charpentier.
The idea that there was a gay relationship between David and Jonathan is so laughably dumb and ridiculous beyond belief that one has to feel sorry for anyone who actually believes it to be true. I think homosexuals are doing themselves a great disservice when they try to use the Bible, particularly the Old Testament to justify their perversion. Especially when one discovers that the Bible describes homosexuality as an abomination and has wiped out entire nations and kingdoms for practicing it.
You believe a Jewish lady led by the devil over God's word 😂😂😂😂
May the LORD give us understanding.
Can someone point out from the Bible where God tolerates sin? Is homosexuality a sin? God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah and because of their sins. God didn't specifically call out their sins but the Bible told us that homosexuality was a part of it because the men of the city want to have sex with the angels. Having sex with the angels is the same as laying with a man or the same sex as you are and it's an abomination the Bible said it is. Why do we water down what God said in the Bible? We are playing with words to justify our bent. Jesus taught us to love but can someone point in the Bible where Jesus says love homosexual relationships or sin? God's creations are to be loved but not sin not their/our sins and that's the very reason why Jesus died on the cross it's because of sin. The Bible clearly calls out homosexual relationship/ act as a sin and without word salad of human reasoning can someone point out in the Bible where God said homosexual behavior is not a sin?
The Sodom and Gomorrah isn't accurate in translation so it's ok to punish homosexuality but what about lot throwing his daughters to be graped? No its obvious not because of gay acts its because humans desired angels and were living in all types of wickedness it wasn't specifically targeted at gays
@@GigiReyez l don't get what you are talking about you are all over the place. Sodom and Gomorrah, the Bible is correct about what happened. Where do you get your info that the translation is not accurate? On Lot and his daughters, evidently, you don't read the Bible because it was Lot's daughters are the ones that planned that sin. The men of the city wanting to sleep with the angels is the only specific sin that the Bible identified.
Nigeria is NOT a moslem country. Visit and see, brother.
Homosexuality is a Sin, love the sinner, hate the sin, simple as.
The guy who is talking in this video is so ignorant and if gods commands and words could be changed so easily it is not a god and it is not religion any more.. true religion is eternal through all time line the islamic quran has a 100% clear interpretation in prophet Muhammad pbuh hadith or suna that religion is eternal..man doesn't have the right to change god word to fit his desires
Who gave Kaliph Uthman the right to burn the qurans?
@@kenid4144 if he burns the Quran he will go to hell
Yeah islam
Accepting pedophilia for over 1400 years
And yes, Christianity is open to change. A change that improves moral standards, like increasing the age of consent, not disgustingly immoral thing as homosexuality. You should repent from sin and don't adjust to accommodate it.
It depends on what Christian denomination you mention. Pope Francis said that Christians should apologize to gays. Catholic Romans are the majority of Christians.
Then, there are many protestant churches were the pastors are homosexuals. Therefore, clearly it's not clear.
Don't come with a "They're not real Christians" because they think that you are not the real Christian.
You try so hard to hide the truth by playing "context" game, but even though we consider the context, those scriptures still condemns homosexual behaviors. It is crystal clear but it is your heart and mind which have impurities to see the truth.
It shows that Islam is still pristine!....
Only if it can go through reformation!…
@@AdamElmasriEnglish
Mr adam that makes 0 sense as if a religion can be changed that easily and god would have no problem with it then it really isn't from god
You are just gay and lost. No wonder you declare war on Islam 😅
You should mention that people are not choosing to be lgbt but it it how they are born. Allah could have created them straight if he wanted to so why are you judging them? Give Some critical arguments against this. Nice effort.
Lmao. Are you serious now ??
I dont believe god..
Why god created Lgbt ?
Or god created science ?
what's next? promoting satanic rituals?
Beware of Allah's punishment before it's too late
You want to do one with me?
@@ashleytheseeker8480 ayo wtf
Homosexuality should be illegal.
Why?
@@nickgagnon3626 Because it is sinful and immoral.
why it is sinful and immoral
@@mohamedjear8917 Because it goes against God's moral law. Same goes for incest, bestiality, necrophilia and pedophilia.
@@mohamedjear8917
'Cos primitive books say so
Please educate yourself before exposing your ignorance on the Internet. I am Nigerian and the penalty is not death. Also Nigeria is not an Islamic country. Stop telling lies just to spread hate! Shame
In some states in Nigeria, there is death penalty. In state of Bauchi for example it has death senetence. Check it up
@@killermoon635 but your video does not say this, or does it? My previous point still stands! STOP MISLEADING PEOPLE!
I'm pretty sure he said that Nigeria was a Christian country which was confusing to me because I though the majority of Nigerians were Islamic.
Northern side of Nigeria there is the death penalty if you're lgbt
The bible clearly condemned homosexuality we don't have to sweet talk this God destroyed a whole city because of this ... Christ is king repent ...
Your jesus didn't say a SINGLE word against homosexuals... not one... it was Paul who had an issue with it... the one who never even met your godling in reality....
False it wasn't because of homosexuality it was the act of wanting angels not man desiring same peepee sex and lot offered his daughters to be graped how is this ok? Clearly its not re read in highlight it was wickedness in the city not specified gayness
@@alahatzaifat1872 Yeah Jesus did not say... God himself destroyed a whole village. I hope that speaks volumes.
@@wandering_circles7487
and yet, your own bible contradicts the claim that it was because of homosexuality... first of all, it was gay rape that was the issue, not that the whole town was homosexual... but in Ezekiel, it gives the true reason.
Ezekiel 16:49
New International Version
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
According to your bible, this is why they were destroyed... so why focus on the rape aspect?? The people of the city were trying to break the laws of hospitality which were very very important at that time... so much so that Lot decided to give his virgin daughters as an alternate...
Please do not use the “ prophet Muhammad “, just say Muhammad.
All these new “ Allah is Love ❤️ “ movement in Islam to make LGBTG feel better are nonsense and won’t go anywhere as long as there are people who don’t accept LGBTQ and see us as sinful group deserving punishment. 😮
I prefer a world where homosexuality is criminalised than a world where homosexuality is promoted.
Are you an homosexual?
You can be LGBT and Christian or Muslim 👨❤️👨
That’s exactly the point! ❤️
Yeah but if a man actually had sex with another man it is called sherk which means you will go to hell for abusing god word because it is forbidden in islam
@@amrgaly you're talking about a character in a story. The actual God of reality created everything. You'll see what God has planned for you later today. God will challenge your vanity. Then you'll know who's God for real.
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MUSLIM YES
CHRISTIAN
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Adam to you your religion and to us our religion Allah almighty will judge us all on judgement day when all will be clear and there is no turning back to earth to repent. All praises be to Allah for making us Muslims and one of the most beautiful things im Islam is WE LOVE BELIEVE AND FOLLOW ALL OF GODS Messangers and prophets from ADAM NOAH ABRAHAM JACOB ISMAIL SULEYMAM JOSEPH ISAC MOSES JESUS AND PROPHET MIUHAMMAD MAY PEACE AND BLESSINGS BE UPON THEM ALL ❤. It is Why Muslims are different from any other group We believe and all and we dont pick and choose what God Almighty revealed to us.
You agree that muhammad was right in killing people
Homosexuality is sin
It's funny because if God exists he's the one who created , gender dysphoria , gay and other lgbt group . It's like making a blind person and saying it's sin to be blind . That's how I see it lol
It’s trickier than that though. In Islam, at least, God puts human beings through different trials and tribulations in part to test our faith and enable soul-making. The test for homosexuals would be to refrain from acting on their basic yearning for sexual-emotional intimacy-which, ironically, Islam teaches is part of the human being’s essential nature or fitrah and even one of God’s signs according to Surah Al-Rum 30:21). That makes the situation unlike that of blindness.
I don’t see anything wrong with the concept of trials and tribulations for soul-making. But I do think it troubling that God should wire into human beings something so deeply visceral that Muslim scholars are often in a panic about its being acted upon in the form of fornication (as a result of gender mixing), but then command that this deeply visceral wiring be cut off completely. Unlike other tests, such as poverty or illness, sexual orientation cannot be overcome or changed, and never being able to enjoy sexual-emotional intimacy (again, something many religious scholars say is part of what makes us human) can easily lead to severe depression, leaving a person unable to discharge their moral duties properly. That, in turn, raises a question about whether any of this is truly compatible with God’s limitless compassion and beneficence.
This is one reason why I, as a gay person, reject organised religion, but retain a belief in God’s love.
@IIOO read my comment again I mentioned about Gender Dysphoria it's a condition lol which is made by who ? God !!! And about making babies LOL many straight couple are infertile too they literally adopt . 2nd lgbt are minority won't effect the world , 3rd world population is very high LOL . You make no sense , bud stop following blindly
الحمد لله علي نعمه الاسلام
May Allah make your kids gay
1. That wouldn’t bother me at all. They will still be wonderful human beings!
2. You just proved the hatred and discrimination of your religious beliefs!
If prayers work well, there would be no poor people nor disasters
@@Kamisama77 This is because God works well) He treats people the best way to test them!
The worst thing you can do to a child is tell the child to memorize or recite a book written or inspired by God-Any book! It impedes the child's critical thinking regarding that book.
As long as Christians continue to parade the lie that God is the author of the Bible, we will limit the New Testament's appeal to Muslims.
The truth of Jesus sacrifice can stand on its own and doesn't have to be propped up with lies. The truth doesn't have to be inspired or written by God for it to be the truth. Luke or Matthew, never claimed divine inspiration when they were writing their gospels.
Please note: If you keep copying and pasting the same comment across the channel on every video, you will be banned from the channel. Please stop spamming!
The Bible does not condemn homosexuallity. Those who claim otherwise do not know the background, context and the original language of the text. Today homosexuality is legalised in most countries of Christian background like in Europe and America and of Biblical background like Israel.
U lie!
Prove it!
That is because most western countries have ideologically adopted satanistic doctrines, such as man is above god (narcissism & excessive capitalism), alter the order of nature that god created (LGBT & transgender), only pleasure and desires count (hedonism).
"Accept everything/everyone and shun nothing [and no depravity]." is a fundamentally satanistic doctrine, not a christian one, sorry to burst your bubble.
You are absolutely wrong. There is a difference between Godly love and lustful love. Have you ever considered that it might not be good for someone to be intimate with someone of the same sex and by helping that person as a friend rather than a sex partner is showing more love for that person than they will ever get with being intimate with someone of the same sex.
No, you're absolutely wrong. Homosexual love is as legitimate as its heterosexual counterpart. The former is no more lustful than the latter. Godly love encompasses we and our partner be it with the same sex or otherwise and we towards our neighbours (non-sexual) without prejudice.
"The Prophet (ﷺ) cursed effeminate men (those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, "Turn them out of your houses ." The Prophet (ﷺ) turned out such-and-such man, and `Umar turned out such-and-such woman." - Sahih al-Bukhari 5886
Same sex marriage is wrong and it should be condemned.
What people eat don't make you shit😊
Well if you can not clearly what God is saying in the bible concerning homosexuality and is saying that it is complex, some very basic thing how will you take complex apologetics. I don't think I should be listening to you
4:10 yeah don’t redefine love though. Or discrimination. Sure you can go to heaven if you’re gay(through having believed on Christ the Lord for just one second) But you’ll probably have aids and not have a Christian witness or community
@Adam Elmasri ,
Jehova God of Israel is not the same as allah?
Jehova has sons but allah would never.
Psalm 2:7 KJV
I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Sura 112:3
{ لَمۡ يَلِدۡ وَلَمۡ يُولَدۡ }
[Surah Al-Ikhlâs: 3]
Abdul Haleem:
He begot no one nor was He begotten.
Mufti Taqi Usmani:
He neither begot anyone, nor was he begotten.
Dr. Mustafa Khattab:
He has never had offspring, nor was He born.
Why don't you tell you scholars and sheiks that they are not the same god? They all agree that yahweh/jehovah/allah are the same character... the god of abraham.... just because your precious, perverted, pedophile and pederast prophet, piss and pig blood be upon him, forever and ever, ameen...didn't want his god sharing his power, thus making your pedophet the most important person next to god (instead of Isa, as the xtians believe) he wrote it so 'god' did not have a begotten son... he was pretty clever, but it is still the same god... all your scholars agree...
There is non God but Allah! And Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) is his servant and messenger!!! ALLAHUAKBAR ✌️
No LGBT is a Sin and must be ban it clear in the Bible it is not about in the contexts God word is eternal and always New not old words
I know God’s word is eternal. The argument is “perhaps you misunderstood God’s word” not that God’s word has changed!!
where does jesus say ANYTHING about the LGBTQ+ being a sin? NO WHERE!!! It was Paul who had an issue with this... and if we go to what Paul actually says... he is condemning those who are soft - malakoi - and the arsenokoites - which means a pederast or corrupter of children. However, European translators of the bible decided to change/translate that to mean homosexual... but if you read all the church fathers, like Origen etc., when THEY interpret these passages, they invariably translate this word to mean corrupter of children... and does NOT pertain to two adults in a loving relationship, no matter the genders involved.
The bible clearly condemned homosexuality we don't have to sweet talk this God destroyed a whole city because of this ... Christ is king repent ...
It condemns many things even adultery yet Jesus didn't act like a religious zealot but rather a forgiver