The Biggest Lie about the Quran
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- Was the Quran truely transmitted through a direct chain of narrators, from the prophet all the way through to us? Or is that the perfect myth?
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Those who understand the Quran, will leave Islam.
And I am One of them
@@Agnosticinformant Me too
Only the liberal emotional westernised softies will leave, i have never met a Muslim who left islam for a rational reason.
@@Agnosticinformantyou're one of them indeed
I read the Quran and realized that it's God's revelation. 💯☑️☑️☑️
It's amazing that the early Muslims never sold the idea of perfect preservation, only modern Muslims do! Didn't Uthman burn some of the collection.
And errors still crept in. The addition of vowel markers allowed for more textual variants, even contradictory variants. Scribal errors. Multiple other attempts to replicate Uthman destroying all variants.
@@Apollo1989V yet we have 37+ variant qurans like hafs, warsh, qaloon, etc. In one quran it says "I" in a verse, another one the same verse says "you".
So, when sheikh yasir qadi said, "standard narrative has holes", he was not wrong.
@@greenbird679 The variants are not contradictory, and all muslims believe that both meanings, whether it says "I" or "you" apply and are islamically correct.
@agp4580 Pretty important parts of the sentence composition which can completely change the meaning
@@Tina-Trinity The letters are always the same, the dots and markings above the letters are what change. Yes, they change some meanings and these meanings are acceptable.
We believe that Allah revealed these different dialects to prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, to allow different Arabian tribes to recite the Quran easier and to enrich the meanings of the Quran.
Even classical Islamic scholarship tells us that the 'word for word, letter for letter' exact transmission of the Quran is an apologetic legend.
Who?
@@ma55382uk
Al-Tabari, al-Suyuti, al-Qurtubi, al-Razi, etc.
@@ma55382uk so you did not pay attention
@@ma55382uk aicha mother of believer
@@ma55382ukThe misguided yasir qadhi?
The Holes Are Perfectly Preserved 🙌
Those in your head 😂😂😂
And say: The truth has come the falsehood has vanished indeed falsehood bount to vanish.. Ouran 17:81❤❤
LIARS! will always lie to stay in business. Otherwise, they might go out of business.
That is how some of them feed their family and stay in power. 🤣🤣
There are only holes and assholes in Islam
@@0786AHAHoles in the narrative. By the admission of your own scholars. When the west and the internet got access to your sources. Boooom! Allah didn’t see the internet coming. The cats are out of the bag.‼️
Thank you brother! They are denying the fact, that all is a lie. 😢
Islam will not survive in our world.
Thanks for a clear and straightforward argument- as an ex-Muslim myself, I think the best way to convince Muslims of problems with the Quran is with clear historical evidence like this from Muslim history
It’s important not to ascribe malice and ill intent to these arguments- a lot of Christian polemics are presented in a condescending and ignorant and bullying fashion, but you present your arguments clearly and emphatically and as an Arabic speaker and someone who has done research
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and the Quran makes the most extraordinary claim of all human books that it is of Divine Origin from the Creator of the Universe and to believe that claim Muslims MUST be willing to critically and skeptically scrutinize it and it’s history
Unfortunately human nature and identity issues makes that extremely difficult but it’s good to see videos like this - keep it up!
Thank you so much
Agree 100%.
Adam, you do what we all should.
Some of us just cannot get over some of the butthurt that religion has inflicted on us over the years.
That's why I deal with my anger by responding with humor and mockery about the very obvious bs that stares everyone in the face.
But this rendition by Adam is gold.
“Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do all things?
Know you not that it is Allah to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth? And besides Allah you have neither any Walee (protector or guardian) nor any helper.”
[al-Baqarah 2:106-107].
your entire argument crumbles when Allah himself admits he can cause verses to be forgotten or abrogated.
All these quotes from Muslim scholars but please answer which one of these scholars said the Quran is not preserved? That would have been your best argument. But of course you don’t have that. You have the opposite. These same scholars you quoted say the Quran is preserved and I’m sure they have evidence in volumes of books as to why.
@@ahmedismail3917 God declared in the past what He will do, Isaiah 46:9-11, and He doesn't change His mind, Numbers 23:19.
God declared that through "the offspring" of Isaac (Abraham's son born BY THE WILL OF GOD, because the **barren** Sarah was beyond child -bearing age, 90 years old, Genesis 16:1-2, 17:17-19, 21-1-3) and ------> Jacob/Israel, A JEW, WILL ALL NATIONS ON EARTH BE BLESSED, Genesis 26:4, 28:14. And......."Allah" established Islam. Which of these 2 would be true?
1. God was just boasting, falsely claiming that He knows the future when actually He doesn't. He didn't expect what would happen and was forced to change His mind, and as "Allah" commanded people to follow Muhammad.
2. Truly God knows the future that He will not change His mind. And "Allah" of Islam is not the God of Abraham. When it became apparent who "the offspring" was, Jesus Christ, because though the Romans tried to stop Christianity for two hundred years by pers•cut•ng and k•lng the early Christians, they failed, and were used instead to spread CHRISTianity faster and farther TO THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD,....."Allah" demoted/overshadowed Jesus, and mislead the people to follow instead an Ishmaelite, "to be blessed", KNOWING that God said it will NOT be through Ishmael, Genesis 21:12. Long ago, he deceived Adam and Eve to not obey God. He's done it again.
Yasir Qadhi: the standard narrative has holes in it….
Muhammed Hijab: 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Does yasir qadhi explain what the hojes are? No. Why? There is none. Allah Hinself say that the quran (His words of guidance) will be preserved. Preserved, it is.
Swiss cheese holes 😂
@@sethsuleiman4419 Educate yourself. The "holes" have been explained over & over. View any of the numerous videos on You Tube & view the evidence against islam & the quran.
@@sheikhboyardee556 Nope, they haven't.
@@sethsuleiman4419did you carefully hear what this guy was saying. More than 200 verses missing from time of Muhammad to Caliph Uthman - only 20 years. Yet you Muslims says perfectly preserved. The only preservation is Muslims lies about Muhammad.
Allah waited all those millennia to reveal his eternal word, but he just couldn't wait one more century for its recipients to finish their writing system
Aren’t there suggestions that it was Jewish subjects of the new Islamic empire who developed the writing system for Arabic?
Why were all the books gathered together and burned, so that only 1 remained? If they were all the same, this would not have been necessary.
Lame excuse: Ahadith were burned not to confuse with the Quran 😂
The books had the same meaning, and same words although in a different dialect. The Quraishi dialect was favored and chosen.
Look at the Christian corrected edition of Bible! Why are the books EG. of Thomas or Henoch were excluded as much as. many others?? 🤔😏
@@schutze8840 Emperor Constantin allowed Christianity 313. Then he formed a commision to put together the Bible. False books were thrown out. Example: Infancy Gospel of Jesus by a Pseudo-Thomas. We don't believe in it because it's nonsense . But you believe in it, it's the story with the clay birds which flew away.
@@Chris-wr9hv why should that be non-sense? Who was deciding it by which objective criteria which books are left out? Just to make believe in these stories, as a continuing of the old testament by authors who knew it very well and formulate it in this way that all prophecy of the OT "came true"? Ever read the world's oldest edition from Ethiopia? Why are there so many differences? Have you ever considered origenes who came into trouble with the "new edition" of the Bible by deleting or modifying passages..!?
According to your opinion, the text of the modern Bible is the result of deleting passages, like Thomas or Henoch, which is not in accordance to the "holy spirit"... The same is true for the holy Qur'an. By the way the Bible is the inspired word of God, the quatan is the word of God himself! Got it?
Ironically the most incriminating verses of Surat al ahzab were preserved (the ones about Muhammad marrying his adopted son's ex wife and people not staying too long at his house), it would be less embarrassing for islam if those verses were lost
In the Bible prophet lot had children from his real children. Out of which great nations rose.
😂😂😂😂
Adopted sons wife divorced single women now free to get married. Or Which is better? Real brothers ex wife now married to the younger brother. Happens in Christianity all the time.
In Christianity real brothers and sisters are marrying each other.
Because of sperm bank...😬😬😬
I'm not a Christian so I don't care what lot did
We know with certainty they took away the satanic verses. It was part of the quaran for 8 years and it's discussed in Hadith that it was a choice to be removed.
God does not abrogate for he does not make mistakes. I wish that Muslims learnt to question things about their religion. The hadiths came a century after Muhammad died. Almost as if Muslims realised that the Quran was not enough to convert
Why do you assume that God abrogates "mistakes" only? Some rulings only apply to the time period they were revealed in. You, as a Christian, believe that Jesus abrogated the law of moses. Does that mean that your God did a mistake?
Hadiths were present directly after Prophet Muhammads death. We have manuscripts to prove it. They were only compiled 200 years after, not invented. Keep the cope to yourself.
@@agp4580The Qur'an openly states many times that Allah is the best of l-mākirīna, a word sometimes mildly translated as planners, though also as schemers or plotters. The Arabic word used here is "ماكر" "maakir", coming from the root m-k-r م-ك-ر, with the word Makr "مكر" primarily meaning to practice deceit or guile or circumvention.
@@Tina-Trinity Makr doesn’t mean deceive, it implies planning/plotting. Christians only claim that the planning was deception because of how Jesus seemed to die on the cross when he didn’t.
There is no translation from a credible source that says deceiver. Non-Muslim Arabs that are ignorant of the intricacies of Classical Arabic are the only ones that have mistranslated the verse.
Where is the part eaten by goat?
In its belly...
Or was it a sheep, Allah knows best 😂😂
Islam, now that you’ve got the world’s attention … it appears that the attention is a bit too close. Upon further examination, the Islamic narration has holes in it.
Thank God I am a Muslim.
Nothing we haven't heard before.
Lies liés liés every day
Proud to be a muslim ❤
@@Thebestrockandroll pagans will dislike monotheist. 😂😂💯☑️☑️☑️
Here is the undeniable logical proof that the Quran is wrong and Muhammed was not a prophet :
*Premise 1:* All other prophets and Muhammed gave different requirements for entering Heaven. See note 1.
*Conclusion 1:* Every other prophet or Muhammed gave false requirements for Heaven.
*Premise 2:* A prophet does not give false requirements for Heaven.
*Conclusion 2:* Every other prophet or Muhammed was not a prophet.
*Premise 3:* The Quran says all of them were prophets.
*Conclusion 3:* The Quran is wrong.
*Premise 4:* Muhammed said all them ware a prophet.
*conclusion 4:* Muhammed is the one who was not a prophet.
Note 1:
Muhammed said embracing Islamic religion is a mandatory requirement for entering Heaven.
Of course every other prophet did not say that embracing islamic religion is a necessary requirement for entering Heaven. The religion of Islam only existed 600 years after Jesus.
the greatest miracle is a goat can beat it creator lol
Goat defeated God. Goat wanted to save Aisha from feeding too many men with her barren breasts and did not enjoy the prospect of Aisha being stoned under the allegations of adultery with one of the young sahabis. Long live the goat Goat is great. Goat ahu Akbar.
Wallahi
Well... Your God came down and crucified himself saving the goat. Goats are valuable to God. Baaa..
😂😂😂😂
@@0786AHA you are not far off from that nonsense. can you tell me what 786 stands for?
Someone somewhere killed men and stole their wives and daughters for sexual pleasures and gang a pedos started following him. Wow if that aint divine, what is!
What one there at least 30 korans. You know the stuff their scholars are not advised to talk about in public. Allah didn’t see the internet coming.‼️
There is only One Quran which is used by all Muslims in the world. How many books Bible consists of: Syriac Bible has 61 books, the Protestant Bible has 66 books, the Catholic Bible has 73, the Coptic Bible has 75 books, the Christian Bible has 76 books, the Greek Orthodox Bible has 78 books, the Ethiopian Bible has 81 books.
@@lawyer73 what makes you think there is only one koran. There’s lots of different korans. With differet words with different meanings. Theres “Holes in the Narrative.” Theres contradictions. You repeating dawah script, thats all.
@@lawyer73 The message of Christ Crucified, Resurrection, and Transfiguration. Thats all that matters to us. Your trying to use the same method to judge the Bible as you do the koran. Your Judge Will Be Jesus.♥️✝️♥️
@@AdamMada-rs6fn We know our Quran much better then you know your Bible. We have millions of hafiz of Quran all round the world, and this number is increasing every day. Every believing Muslim knows every letter and word from the Quran. Nobody can come and try to insert anything in the Quran, because we know all that is written in the Quran. Immediately hafizs would react and correct anyone who would write or recite anything different then Quran. At the moment, there is no Christian who memorised Bible. Even if someone would manage to memorise it, he would not know which Bible did he memorise, since different Bibles have different number of books.
@@AdamMada-rs6fn We are using scientific method to prove Quran is true and one, and we made it.
Muslims believed that the quran is unchanged and there are no variants.
This is not true.
Did you know that the official version of the quran was only finalised in 1924 in Cairo, Egypt? And only officially canonized in 1985 in Saudi Arabia?
Scholars know that there are several versions of the quran, but the average muslim does not. Why?
The 2 most widely used versions in existence today are the Hafs and Warsh versions. (Others are Qalun, Al Susi, Ibn Kathir, Abi Ja'far, Ibn Jamaz, Ya'quub, Al-Duri, Khalaf, Al Qisai, Ibn Amir, Abu Amar, Al Bazi etc)
Is yours a Hafs or Warsh version?
Look at the first verse of sura al-fatihah. If there is a number “1” after the Bismillah verse, then you have the Hafs version.
If not, you have the Warsh version.
The few knowledgeable muslims who are aware of the existence of these 2 different versions will say there are very minor differences, mainly vocal variations.
Again this is not true.
Here are a couple of examples of text variants that can be found in the Arabic Hafs and Warsh that show that the quranic text and meaning itself has been altered!
2:125 in Hafs is وَاتَّخِذوْا “WatakhIzu” (You shall take) / In Warsh it is وَاتَّخَذوْا “WatakhAzu” (They have taken/made).
In 2:125 One version gives a command, while the other states a historical observation.
Another one:
3:146 in Hafs is قاتل “Qatal” (Fought) / In Warsh it is ُقتل “Qutil” (Were Killed).
In 3:146 the difference is between a prophet and those with him being killed, while in the other the difference only means that they fought by his side.
There’s more: Look up 2:85, 15:8, 21:4, 33:68, 42:30, 48:17 in both these versions and see for yourself.
In fact, if you study futher, you will find that number of verses in Hafs is 6236, while Warsh has only 6214 verses.
Were you aware of this? Probably not. Why not?
Which is the right version? Hafs or Warsh?
Didn’t allah say that he will preserve his word? (sura 15:9)
Who managed to change his words and cause allah to break his promise?
The number of hadith collected and attributed to prophet Muhammed is in the hundreds of thousands, as much as 700,000. Let us now look at some of the famous hadith collectors and what they collected.
(1) Malik Ibn Anas collected about 500 hadith in his famous book, Al-Muwattaa.
(2) Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, collected about 40,000 hadith, in his famous Musnad. He chose these 40,000 hadith from among 700,000 hadith. In other words he thought 660,000 hadith were un-proven, lies and/or fabrications and the others may be authentic. That is, 94% were lies and fabrications.
(3) Bukhari collected about 600,000 hadith. He accepted 7275 hadith and considered 592,725 hadith to be un-proven hadith, lies and/or fabrications. In other words, 99% of what he collected were considered unauthentic.
(4) Muslem collected 300,000 hadith. He accepted 4000 of them and rejected 296,000, that is, almost 99% were rejected.
This gives us an idea of how much corruption entered or tried to enter Islam from the back door.
And we can know which hadith is right by "علم الاسناد" not by pure luck
Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention. I like to educate myself and understand things. Do you know how to get the two versions in English? Deeply appreciated your comment
@@theben10futureyamin70 pray to jesus he'll give to u
Prefer the versions written by non Muslims as they are less opaque and more coherent.
Allah (islamic) vs Muhammad : Are they rappers or are they rappists.
*[**33:50**]* O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.
*[**33:51**]* You, [O Muhammad], may put aside whom you will of them or take to yourself whom you will. And any that you desire of those [wives] from whom you had [temporarily] separated - there is no blame upon you [in returning her]. That is more suitable that they should be content and not grieve and that they should be satisfied with what you have given them - all of them. And Allah knows what is in your hearts. And ever is Allah Knowing and Forbearing.
*[**33:52**]* Not lawful to you, [O Muhammad], are [any additional] women after [this], nor [is it] for you to exchange them for [other] wives, even if their beauty were to please you, except what your right hand possesses.
*Sahih al-Bukhari 4138*
We went out with Allah’s Apostle for the invasion of Bun Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus [same as "azl" above]. So when we intended to do coitus interruptus, we said: "How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah’s Apostle who is present among us? We asked (him) about it and he said: "It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul till the Day of Resurrection is predestined to exist, it will exist."
*Sahih Muslim Book 8 Hadith 3371*
Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women;
and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us;
why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- senger (Peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.
I love the tame sheep Hadith. The Quran’s perfect preservation meets its demise at the hands of a farm animal, which was probably no accident.
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Sanskrit texts and hymns have been passed down unchanged for far longer than the Koran. Does that make Hinduism more the word of God(s) than Islam?
No Sanskrit Hymns have not passed unchanged
Where did you get that?
All religions are lie
You are denying one to be more confident in other
Yes
I don't think hymns are unchanged
Indeed, it is the biggest lie and the worst human production that could happen in the past, present, and future .
All my love to you, Mr. Adam ❤❤
Qur'an revalation missing: the Breastfeeding adult
The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it
Hasan (Darussalam)
Reference
: Sunan Ibn Majah 1944
In-book reference
: Book 9, Hadith 100
English translation
: Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1944
The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding adult is missing from the quran. This was memories at the time of Muhammad and people. why is it missing from the Qur'an?
Quran 36:36
there must be one similar
to the missing Verses.
the problems are with your understanding of the Al Quran.
you kept parroting.
@@adamsulaiman639 That means quran is not perfect and has deficiencies.
If I write a book, and I write new editions of the book, improving my previous book, then my previous book had problems.. same thing applies to quran.
@@adamsulaiman639 Btw rasulallah was fra ud . He invented verses to suit his needs. Ex: when companions of rasulallah accused him of ste aling red velvet under garment, he pretend to get quran revelation 3:161, saying "it is not for the for prophet to embezzle".
If allah was real god, he would have shown who stole the red velvet, instead of telling that rasulallah is not thi ef.
Why his own companions started accusing rasulallah in the first place? Won't you think there is something fishy with the missing under garment? Also, why can't allah reveal the actual culprit. As a non-believer I can clearly see that rasulallah is making up verses to defend himself against accusations. Can we take him as prophet, who can lead us to god???
@@adamsulaiman639 Quran 36:36 - Glory to Allah, Who created in pairs all things that the earth produces, as well as their own (human) kind and (other) things of which they have no knowledge.
This verse itself has problem. Allah says that he created everything in pair. Where is the pair for Mule?
@@adamsulaiman639 We are genuinely trying to understand, what happened to "breast feeding for adult" verses in the quran. There is no rocket science to know about it. It is plain simple. why we have don't no knowledge to understand what happened to that verse.
If I were rich I would tell you take my money and continue spreading this beautiful information ❤
Wow, thank you! ❤️ I’m doing my best
Excellent video, thanks ! There is also a hadith in which Aisha said that some verses have scribal errors. I think it could be interesting to make a video about it
Aisha had more sense in her little finger than old Mo had in his whole life, didn’t she.
the "all knowing Lah" moon god, did not know that the internet will bring islam down, he forgot to mention that in the quran, may be the goat that ate a part of the quran, did not have enough so it decided to eat that specific verse that spoke about the internet, youtube, and other social media ...
About the "stoning adulters" verse Omer says that "If I was not afraid that people would blame me adding to quran I would obligatorly put stoning verse. In future some people may deny stoning, it is legal, stonin is real and a quran verse". Today muslims accept stoning verse as "a verse its written form abrogated but its meaning is staying". Not joke.
Bible says the same thing....
How can it be letter for letter transmitted when there's different Quran's today that are not letter to letter the same. Most Muslims don't know there are different versions of the Quran printed today and have different letters verse numbered and words. I have two versions at my house when is the Hafs version and the other is warsh.
most muslims know it,its one quran and the other are called something else and they are used for recitation
@@hahaloser3914 - It is not really one Quran. There are at least 7 different Quran's with different words, verses and letters that have been used in different regions since the start of Islam. At least 7 authentic variants of the Quran. Mohammad Hijab had a good 1 hour lecture on this that I thought was good. Unfortunately I cannot find it now. I will post if I find it.
Another excellent video, Adam.
Glad you enjoyed it
And say: the truth has come the falsehood has vanished indeed falsehood bount to vanish.OURAN 17:81❤❤❤
The goat knew that the verses were under the pillow
Allah calls to die for him, Christ calls to live for him.
So well said. I will use that.♥️✝️
Christianity is worse
But somehow there are countless celebrated martyrs in Christianity too.
@@joerdim Humans defend when attacked. Love your enemies means give them the same respect that you expect, even when they don’t believe what you believe. Islam says hate them, fight them, and kill them, because they don’t believe what you believe. The freedom and peace of Christ comes because He removes hatred and revenge from your heart. ✝️♥️✝️
Христианство всегда распространяется мечом. Всегда.@@AdamMada-rs6fn
Perfect preservation of the Quran is as fictitious and fallacious as Muhammad's flight to Jerusalem on the back of the winged Al-Buraq!!!
Great video bro. Keep them coming!!!
Great comment
your empty claim without any shred of evidence
@@ykn7018 th-cam.com/video/ZZWfUR7_G3w/w-d-xo.html
@@ykn7018 in the abundance of water, the fool is thirsty
There is only One Quran which is used by all Muslims in the world. How many books Bible consists of: Syriac Bible has 61 books, the Protestant Bible has 66 books, the Catholic Bible has 73, the Coptic Bible has 75 books, the Christian Bible has 76 books, the Greek Orthodox Bible has 78 books, the Ethiopian Bible has 81 books.
They say Muhammad couldn't read or write. Why didn't God give him a tablet like He did Moses.
Why didn't God speak to him directly.
Notification of happiness ❤
I could find only one truth in the Quran, allah admitting to be the best dcver.
Without lie Islam will die
With lies Christianity is still dying.
😬😬😬
Lies*
And where's the lies in the quran exactly?
@@0786AHAattacking christianity doesnt make islam better ! Maybe even the commenter isnt even a christian. Make your own case , leave other people alone.
@@0786AHAChristianity will never die 🤣 in your dreams. Muslims can't even stay in Middle East, why? If Islam is sooo peaceful why are you coming to non-muslims countries? The worse thing is you come to non-muslim countries and make problems there too. And calling Christians for disbelievers, then why not just be in Middle East? Lol
When scholars lie about the Quran being untouched since the time of Muhammad, those lies contradict several hadiths confirming that many verses even chapters missing from the Quran we have today.
I am interested in your reading list, the books behind you, and your opinion of them.
As a natively arabic speaker, I was fortunate to have direct access to the original sources of Islamic religious books and witnessed the chaos and confusion in understanding and interpreting the verses of the Quran. Non-Arab Muslims are far removed from all of this because their relationship with these books inevitably passes through the filter of devout Muslim translators. What reaches non-Muslims is a single interpretation of a verse. They do not know that sometimes there are more than ten different interpretations, clearly indicating the confusion in understanding the verse. This is in addition to the many incorrect words, strange phrases, and missing sentences in the Quran. Moreover, Muslim scholars even disagree on the number of abrogated verses. Arab Muslim apologists are professional in their work. I advise non-Muslims to read only Al-Tabari's interpretation and nothing else in terms of commentary.
But doesn’t the video debunk the book? If it isn’t perfect then it is not from god?
@@TomAnderson_81 perfectly said. Bible is a fabrication of Roman Empire's imagination.
💯☑️☑️☑️
This is why Arab ex muslims are vital to aid brainwashed muslims out of Islam.
There are also many people who are native arabic speaker who are ex- Muslims for example Al fadi. How come he became ex-Muslim? He was from Jeddah in Saudi Arabia.
@@WalterKluwers fake ex Muslim.
Fake imposter. Al Fadi is a 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Do you Have PPT or PDF with this content. I have ben fallowing you and you are very convincing. If possible, it would be good to share any available materials with this content
Perhaps one day I will put it all in a book.
@@AdamElmasriEnglish you should think on making a online course on Critical issues about Islam (starting form the historical issues, islamic doctrines and its relationship which politics, liberty, and christianity), i would attend my self.
@@AdamElmasriEnglish You should definitely do that!
@@AdamElmasriEnglish Alhamdulillah for ISLAM ❤
@@AdamElmasriEnglish please do. That day you will become Muslim if you are truthful. 💯☑️☑️☑️
a part of it is missing, a goat ate it, that's according to aisha, in hadith 100% authentic (hadith sahih)
Exposition praiseworthy ❤
Thanks for the careful research, Adam
Thx for the truth brother
In the 6th century arabic language only has 16 alphabets
Nowadays arabic language has 28 alphabets
Why dont they use 16 alphabet quran like in qutham era???
The added dots for foreigners to understand so some words added like "ح" came after it "خ" so nothing changed in quran except for dots
And there's the oldest quran version in Britain with same surats from the quran now showing that it has been fully preserved
So original koran needed human interface to make it better? @@Evlanp
@@Evlanpbe honest the qiran in Birmingham is only a fragment literally not a lot so be honest.....we have dead sea scrolls and we have manuscripts for the Bible, I Pray you come to JESUS CHRIST and accept Him as your Lord and Saviour and be saved 🙏
@@janieghoujdami3968 dead sea scrolls in language jesus never spoke 😂😂😂😂
Videos are an amazing medium, we also need this in written document as a list, a list would be great to use while debating Muslims
Its nasty in any language
Thanks for your videos
Glad you like them!
funny, apologetic says allah made them forgot or abrogated, chose one that suit best for your dawah 😂😂😂
@Adam Elmasri - please make full video
😂😂He is only capable of giving this much false information. 😂😂. Don't push him. 😂😂😂
I love watching the in-depth unbiased analysis in your videos. Kudos to you Sir.
Much appreciated!
Abrogation equals corruption.
"To claim that is is missing, but you can't bring it, this is a baseless claim."
Says the apologist for a religion that claims the gospels were changed, yet can't produce any originals or even tell us what was in them.
His argument is disengenuous. We don't need to bring the lost verses to prove they are gone. We only need evidence they are not there. And Islam itself provides that.
@@carnivoreisvegan Islam provides nothing but transparent falsehoods.
If the Prophet verified the verses reaveled to him by Satan...why did he remove them from the Quran???
Thx ❤
You're welcome 😊
I am an ex Muslim imaam from Uganda. I left Islam because if the lies about the preservation and perfection of the Quran. The Koran contains historical, scientific and linguistic errors
Please stay safe man, thank you for making the world a little better.
Liar. Lol 😆
@@chr_myEven if Islam weren’t true, without a true religion there’s no objective morality. Your enmity is just based on your own desires, convictions and interests. You don’t even have to be kind. You just want to be. Ultimately the only conclusion you can reach is that the power lies with the interests of the majority of people and those whose interests don’t match the interests of the majority (pedophiles, murderers) are suppressed simply because the majority doesn’t like it. Power and might makes “right” here.
I’m not for pedophiles and murderers. I’m just making you aware of what would be the truth about right and wrong (in the case you’re irreligious).
Do you agree? Personally I wouldn’t like but also not dislike this power discrepancy. Even if you can’t prove that pedophiles are bad, we can just justify ourselves by pretending it is or just concluding that there’s no right or wrong anyway.
@@Yusufyusuf-lh3dwLiars think everyone lies 🤣
@Leil2221 Don't feel so touchy lol
لو تأملنا في كلام زيد بن ثابت رضي الله عنه لتبين لنا مراده ومقصده ، فهو رضي الله عنه حين يقول : " فَقَدْتُ آيَةً مِنْ الْأَحْزَابِ حِينَ نَسَخْنَا الْمُصْحَفَ ، قَدْ كُنْتُ أَسْمَعُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقْرَأُ بِهَا " يدل على أنه رضي الله عنه يعرف الآية ويحفظها ، وإلا فكيف يفتقد شيئا لا يعرفه أصلا ، أو كيف يفتقد شيئا غفل عنه ونسيه ولم يخطر على باله ، وأكد على معرفته بالآية حين قال : ( قَدْ كُنْتُ أَسْمَعُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقْرَأُ بِهَا )
IF ANY ONE CLAIMS IF THERES A VERSE MISSING, THEN BRING IT ??? HOW CAN YOU BRING IT,IF ITS MISSING OR BEEN EATEN
good content as always. thank you:) your hands movement is a bit similar to Haytham Talaat :)😶
Oh come on!!! 😅
@@AdamElmasriEnglish 😁 still a star though :)
The preaching to the choir...😂😂
Abrigation was a later invention. Possibly by Ottomons. How can God change his mind in only 23 years. I can understand verses can be changed to fit different time spans like centuries.
Abrogation is literally mentioned in the Qur’an though? 2:106
And it’s not God changing his mind.
The sad thing about Islam is that the majority of Islamic adherents don't read the glorious Quran.
And who read it become Muslims. 💯☑️☑️
And those who do are not any wiser for it.
@@0786AHA🤣🤣🤣 Who read it is a Muslim who understand it will RUN AWAY VERY FAAAAR 🤣🤣🤣 And no, not all convert when they read the Quran, what a lie 🤣🤣
And say: The truth has come the falsehood has vanished, indeed falsehood bount to vanish.Ouran 17:81❤
Thanks
Ouran
Good video
Where is the Stoning and Breastfeeding part of the Quran?
GOAT
Hi Adam, we know that Ubay bin Kaab was one of the 4 people the prophet recommended regarding revelation. Ubay bin Kaab had his own mushaf which had a different number of chapters and perhaps a different order of verses.
The conversation between Ubay bin Kaab and Imam Ahmad was Ubay bin Kaab's attempt to find out how the Utsman mushaf was then agreed to be the standard. Ubay seemed to want to know what the final version of the Utsman mushaf was like during Imam Ahmad's time.
Ubay asked Imam Ahmad, who I suspect was younger and familiar with the Utsman mushaf. What Ubay bin Kaab conveyed to Imam Ahmad was information regarding his version of Surah Al Ahzab, which had more verses than the one in the Utsman mushaf. But do we immediately conclude that many verses are missing? It is possible that those verses were placed in other surahs in the Utsman mushaf based on an agreement to standardize the compilation of revelation (the Quran). This could happen considering that there is no information comparing the number of verses in the Ubay bin Kaab mushaf surah with the Utsman mushaf.
Let's imagine, would the collection committee allow the 200 or so revelations in Ubay bin Kaab's mushaf to disappear? Meanwhile, Umar's intention for compiling revelations was so that the revelations would not be lost because the memorizer died.
My assumption is that, there are no known revelations that were omitted from being collected. The only difference is the difference in the way the verses are arranged in the surahs and mushaf.
Compiling revelations in a book is indeed a human effort. It may not be 100% perfect. However, it was the best effort of the companions to preserve revelation based on their love to revelation. And after being standardized by Utsman, it never changed again.
The biggest lie about Quran is that it is true and preserved!
Exactly it is not preserved no wonder So many contradiction brother abdool.😐
@@KarenAubbrey-ep7ejI am not sure if I got your point. To clarify my point: Islam is all about lies and deception.
There is only One Quran which is used by all Muslims in the world. How many books Bible consists of: Syriac Bible has 61 books, the Protestant Bible has 66 books, the Catholic Bible has 73, the Coptic Bible has 75 books, the Christian Bible has 76 books, the Greek Orthodox Bible has 78 books, the Ethiopian Bible has 81 books.
@@lawyer73all bubbles have the same doctrines. And we Christian’s don’t have satan possessed prophets like Mohamed. Think about it…
@@peaceforhumanity1886 And what possessed Lot and his daughters to commit incest, or Noah to get drunk and nude himself in presence of his sons,, David to commit fornication, to take wife of his soldier and him to send to die on front, Solomon to have 700 wives and 300 concubines...
Shouldnt there be a verse thet says what verses had been abrogated by allah? How do we know they were abrogated by god if theres no verse saying so? Its like using half of a contract and saying "oh, we made a contract saying we dont need that part of the contract" but cant show the second contract.
I think, in order to determine which verse is abrogated by which, the muslim scholars use the chronology of the revelations to say that later verses abrogate prior verses when there are contradictions between them. The problem is that nobody is sure about the chronology of the revelations and there exists a lot of mutually exclusive chronologies...
@@Raqi799 but there's no verses that say, "that other verse was abrogated" . Without that, they are just unclear contradictions.
@@Raqi799 if God didn't say "these verses are abrogated" they are literally just admitting the quaran has contradictions. Either that or they know better than Allah? It has to be one of the two. You'd think an all knowing creator would have been clear about it.
@@carnivoreisvegan I totally agree with you and I also think that the theory of the abrogation makes no sense...
@@Raqi799 basically they are trying to explain away contradictions but saying "God said it" but can't say where. The more I read about the quaran, the more nonsensical it is. There's also the satanic verses which were part of the quaran for 8 years
Even the hadiths say the Quran is imperfect. It acknowledges about the many missing surahs.
Thank you for this, so informative. They really are in denial about this topic aren’t they. ✝️✝️✝️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
In a nutshell : Muhammad is allah
Adam, have you seen that Sherif Gaber was arrested? :(((((
He wasn’t arrested yet. He’s still hiding. That was an additional court sentence while he is still in the run!
Yes, this is sad. I hope he survives and can run away 😢
Who is Sheriff Gaber, please?
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Here are some examples of notable differences between the modern Qur'an (1924 Cairo edition) and early Uthmanic manuscripts. While many of these differences are minor, they provide insight into the textual variations observed over time.
Orthographic Variations:
The use of different scripts and orthographic conventions can be seen. For example, in early manuscripts, the word for "be" (kun) might be written without the vowel marks that are present in the Cairo edition.
Diacritical Marks:
Early Uthmanic manuscripts did not use diacritical marks, which indicate vowels. This led to different possible readings of the text. For example, the word "فتبينوا" (fatabayyanu) in Surah 49:6 in the Cairo edition, meaning "verify," could be read as "فتثبتوا" (fatathabbatu), meaning "ascertain," in early manuscripts without diacritical marks.
Word Variations:
In some cases, there are differences in specific words. For instance:
Surah 2:132 in the Cairo edition has "ووصى" (wa-awṣā, "and he enjoined"), whereas some early manuscripts have "وأوصى" (wa-awṣā, "and he enjoined") without the waw at the beginning.
Additional Words:
In Surah 33:6, the Cairo edition includes "وأزواجه أمهاتهم" (wa-azwājuhu ummahātuhum, "and his wives are their mothers"). Some early manuscripts do not have this phrase, indicating it might have been a marginal note that was later incorporated into the text.
Differences in Recitations (Qira'at):
The Cairo edition primarily follows the Hafs 'an 'Asim recitation. Other recitations, like Warsh 'an Nafi', have different vowelization and, occasionally, word forms. For example:
Surah 1:4 is read as "ملك يوم الدين" (Maliki yawmi ad-din, "Master of the Day of Judgment") in the Warsh recitation, whereas the Cairo edition reads it as "مالك يوم الدين" (Maliki yawmi ad-din, "King of the Day of Judgment").
These examples highlight the types of variations found between the Cairo edition and earlier manuscripts or different recitation traditions. While they do not usually change the overall meaning significantly, they do demonstrate that the text of the Qur'an has undergone standardization processes over time.
VERY GOOD.PLEASE GIVE THE NUMBERS IN THE HADITH YOU QUOTED.
If Abu Harb bin Abu Al-Aswad forgot, as he said, 70 verses, how did he know there were 70 of them? He forgot. If he found them later, he could say, "Ah, these are the verses I forgot. There are 70 of them." But if he totally forgot these verses, he could not know the number. You can't know what you forget!!
You could argue that you know the number of what you learnt.. like for example, I could learn 100 new English words but then few weeks later I could only remember 35 of them and I forgot the rest.
@@AdamElmasriEnglish OK, if you begin with a specific target, 100 new English words, then you could say that if you remember 35 words, then subtract 35 from 100 and there are 65 missing words. However, as I understand it, Al Qur'an did not originally have the names of chapters and numbered verses. The arrangement of names of chapters and the structure of each chapter came at a later date. Probably when Al Qur'an became a written text.
@@angusmcfarlane1225Do you understand how books are written by people? Can you honestly read the Quran and not see human fingerprints and a limited understanding of the world throughout it? The whole book can easily be explained naturalistically, without any supernatural elements.
@@dorarie3167 I don't believe Al Qur'an is divine, not for one second. Why not? I'm an Atheist. There is no god!! Al Qur'an was put together over hundreds of years and finally completed in around the 10th Century, I believe.
There is no complete quran from Muhammads time anywhere in existence.
Al lah said he gave Muhammad a book!
Where is it?
Hmmm… pretty amazing if no one can find the original in order to even make a claim that it is perfect. Where is that book?
Besides the book why was God absent when giving the book. But present when giving the laws to mosses. 🤔 Where was God was He sleeping or dead or something. 😮 Facts remain God was totally absent when giving the Quran to a man he refuse to touch and make him with the ability to read and write.
Just make up any old nonsense ... Sure sign of defeat.
💯☑️☑️☑️☑️
@@TomAnderson_81 in the markets 😐
The quran been fully preserved by oral tradition and u can find the oldest quran in Britain which dates back to 1300 years ago and there isn't a single word that have been changed and there are litreal rocks that have the quran written on them
@@Evlanp
I guess you missed the video. Cmon. Stop the 🧢 cap. You guys need to just use the good in the book and drop and forget the bad just like the Jews and Christians do. Also, the Harry Potter book original is copied the same but it doesn’t make it true just like all religious books doesn’t make them true. I’m glad people are waking up to the delusion and insanity of the bad that comes from all those books. Also, that dates to maybe 50-100 after the fact which who knows since it is NOT the original. Show me the original.
It is interesting to know that (Musnad Ahmad) is not a collection of the authentic Ahadeeth only, although this was the intention of Imam Ahmad, may Allah have mercy on him, which is to scutinize his collection afterward and to keep the authentic Ahadeeth only. But-Subhan Allah- he passed away before doing so.
However, the Ahadeeth in Musnad Ahmad were classified by contemporsy great Imams, like Ahmad Shakir and Abdul-Rahman Al-Sa’aty Al-Banna.
With this in mind, here is the status of the relevant narrations;
1- The narration of Aysha RAA indicated that Suratul-Ahzab was 200 Ayat is a weak narration. It was narrated through (Ibn Luhaya’ah) and his narrations are rejected.
Dr. Nazar Shady, the Arabic scholar and researcher of Harward clearly refuted the chain of transmission. Uthman burned the original quran, then Mohammad bin Abubacker the son of first Khalifa and brother of his beloved wife Aisha killed Uthman , telling " you changed Allah's quran". Read the book " Christ, Mohammad and I" by the Arabic scholar Mohammad Al Gazouly.
SILAM itself is a lI.E from start to finish
Abrogated by a tame sheep
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What unmistakably points to the identity of Hazrat Muhammad(saw) is the phrase: “he came with ten thousands of saints” and “from his right hand went a fiery law for them.” At the time of the conquest of Mecca, ten thousand holy men followed at his heels and he was the bearer of the law of the Quran. Hence, the prophecy has been wonderfully fulfilled in the person of Holy Prophet Muhammad, (peace and blessings of God be upon him).
Arabia is the land of the Promised One
A third prophecy is:
“The burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge, O ye travelling companions of Dedanim. The inhabitants of the Land of Tema brought water to him that was thirsty, they prevented with their bread him they fled. For they fled from the swords, from the drawn swords and from the bent bow, from the grievousness of war. For thus hath the Lord said unto me, within a year, according to the years of a hireling, and all the glory of Kedar shall fail; And the residue of number of archers, the mighty men of the children of Kedar, shall diminished: for the Lord God of Israel hath spoken it.” (Isaiah 21:13-17)
The first point to bear in mind in connection with this prophecy is that Arabia is the scene of the Prophecy. This is most significant. Hazrat Muhammad(saw) appeared in Arabia.
Secondly, the prophecy speaks of “Him that fled”. The flight of Hazrat Muhammad(saw) is momentous event in the history of the world. It is upon the flight of Hazrat Muhammad(saw) from Mecca that the Muslim calendar begins.
Thirdly, “fled from drawn swords” conclusively proves the fulfillment of the prophecy in Hazrat Muhammad(saw) who fled from Mecca when his house was surrounded by his deadly enemies who stood there, drawn swords in had, thirsty for his blood.
Fourthly, another clear testimony in favor of Hazrat Muhammad(saw) is found in: “within a year… all the glory of Kedar will fail… the mighty men of Kedar shall diminish.” This was fulfilled in the battle of Badr which occurred within a year from the flight of Muhammad, and in which battle, the Quraish of Mecca (Kedar) sustained a crushing defeat; most of their mighty men fell.
Rev. C. Forster locates the Kedar in Hedjaz and identifies them with Koraish. See: The Historical Geography of Arabia by Rev. C. Forster, pp. 244-265.
The Name Muhammad Mentioned in the Bible
There is an important prophecy in the Song of Solomon (5:9-16). In this prophecy, the one who is spoken of here is the beloved of God. One of the titles of Hazrat Muhammad(saw) is Habibullah - the beloved one of God. Secondly: “My beloved is white and ruddy”. This was the color of Hazrat Muhammad(saw), Thirdly, “Chiefest among then thousands”. We have already shown that Hazrat Muhammad(saw) was at the head of ten thousand followers at the time of the conquest of Mecca. The fourth and most striking point in this prophecy is the name of Hazrat Muhammad(saw) in verse 16. It reads: “Yea, he is altogether lovely” in English Bible. In the Hebrew Bible, the word is “Muhammad-im”. See Hebrew Bible printed for the British and Foreign Bible Society by Trowitzsch & Sons, Berlin, P. 1159.
The Promised Comforter of the Gospel
The prophecy runs as follows:
“If ye love me, keep my commands. And I will pray to the Father and He shall give you another Comforter. That he may abide with you forever; even the Spirit of truth.” (John 14:15-17)
“But the Comforter which is the Holy Ghost whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things..” (John 14:26)
Again:
“Nevertheless, I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away, for if I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.” (John 16:7)
“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth; for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak; and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me.” (John 16:12-14)
John 14:26 says that the Holy Ghost is the Comforter. This claim is contrary to the plain and unambiguous words of John 16:7, wherein Jesus(as) says that his going away, i.e., the death of Jesus is inevitably necessary of the coming of the Comforter. The New Testament says that John was filled with the Holy Ghost even before he was born (Luke 1:14), and speaks of Jesus(as) himself as receiving the Holy Ghost in the form of a dove (Matthew 3:16)Thus, the Holy Ghost was wont to visit men before Jesus(as) as well as in his own time. To what, then is the reference in the words, “If I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you.” Surely not to the Holy Ghost; for it is a matter of common knowledge that the Holy Ghost was co-existing with Jesus(as), and it would be sacrilegious to think for a moment that Jesus(as) was without the Holy Ghost. So, the Comforter was someone other than the Holy Ghost.
This also supports our assertion that there have been many interpolations in the existing Christian Bible. It is quite obvious that the Comforter cannot be the Holy Ghost, as Jesus(as) uses the pronoun “he” instead of “it” in connection with the Comforter.
Comforter Was To Bring Complete Teachings
According to the prophecy: The Comforter, the Spirit of truth, “will guide you into all truth”. The Holy Prophet Muhammad(saw) was the only prophet who claimed to have brought the complete teachings through the Holy Quran about which Devenport Says:
” The Quran is the general code of the Muslim world; a social, civil, commercial, military, judicial, criminal, penal and yet religious code; by it everything is regulated; from the ceremonies of religion to those of daily life; from salvation of the soul to the health of the body; from the rights of general community to those of society, from morality to crime, from punishment here to that of the life to come.”
According to the prophecy: the Comforter would not speak of himself but “whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak”. The spirit descended upon the Apostles at Pentecost was not the Comforter who should not speak of himself, for this spirit broke even the body in which it dwelt. “Me, I, my, we, ourselves” were words uttered by Peter, John, Phillip, James, and by twelve when they assembled together. Hence, the words of prophecy cannot be twisted to the Holy Ghost, which was given to them already as is clear from John 20:22 - “And when he (Jesus) had said this, he breathed on then, and saith unto them. Receive ye the Holy Ghost.”Moreover, the Holy Ghost, being the third person of the Trinity, is a co-partner in the God-head and has a fair claim to at least one third of it. Why, then should it be reduced to the status of a recipient, hearing anything from any other person. It is, on the hand, the active agent imparting words to others who should communicate them to mankind. Obviously, the passage refers to a man inspired by God, who will transmit to others nothing beyond what is revealed to him. “He doth not speak of himself, but it is the word of God that is revealed to him” says the Holy Quran (53:4-5).
The Comforter is repeatedly spoken of in the Bible as the “Spirit of Truth” and it may be observed here in passing that the word Comforter cannot, by stretch of fancy, be twisted to fit in with the Holy Ghost, for nowhere in the Bible is the latter called the Spirit of Truth. Furthermore, Jesus(as) speaks of Him as another Comforter. Jesus(as) himself, of course, was one Comforter. The other Comforter foretold, therefore, must also be mortal like himself.
The Quranic picture is the same in this respect when it proclaims the advent of the Holy Prophet(saw) thus: “Qul Jaa’al Haqqo Wa Zahaqal Baatilo, Innal Baatila Kaana Zahooqa” - Say, the Spirit of Truth is come and falsehood is vanished. (Al-Quran 17:82)
It is futile to object that the Holy Prophet(saw) was a man and not a “Spirit”. The Bible itself has used the word “Spirit” in a large variety of senses, as for example: “The Spirit is willing but flesh is weak” where it signifies the spiritual part of man. Again, it is also used to stand for God, both in the Holy Quran and the Bible, as descending upon the righteous, and yet again it signifies a holy person: That which is born of the spirit is spirit”. The Christian contention that the word “spirit” cannot apply to corporal being is therefore without basis.
Hazrat Muhammad(saw) Cleared Jesus(as) of All False Charges
Without lies islam dies
I would like to know what lies exactly
@@Evlanp ✝️pagans have there truth.
You stand mistaken..allow me to correct you
1) You quoted a narration where Ubayy Bin Kaab mentions that Suratul Ahzab was as long as surah Baqarah and it contained the verses of stoning.
What you failed to mention was that surahs were not named during the time of the Prophet and were not placed in the Quran in the order it was revealed to Muhammad. So it could very well be that Ubayy bin Kab was mistaken in attributing many large portions of different surahs to be part of this one Surah (Ahzab) thus thinking it to be as big as Surah Baqarah. Notice he never said the verses were missing, rather he's saying that this particular surah as he remembered it was as long as another surah. Ubayy bin Kaab was one of 15 scribes to write down the verses of the Quran and he had his own Mushaf. Why didn't he bring his manuscript forward to tell the others "these are the other missing verses." It didn't happen because the other scribes like Zaid bin Thabit etc explained to him what the Prophet instructed in the order and sequence of revelation and what verses were abrogated in reading but not in practice etc. Also majority of the time, the number of verses in a surah were not set in stone during the time of Muhammad. The Quran was an oral scripture..every pause heard while reading can be either perceived as a "new verse" or a pause within a long verse. This officially numbered verses came about long after.
2) Thanks for proving our point: Huzaifah said, "But then I FORGOT 70 verses and I could never find it" why couldn't he find it existing with anyone? Because Allah says in Quran, "We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be FORGOTTEN except that We bring forth better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is competent over all things." [2:106]. So this is why these companions could not recall, remember and bring forward these verses. God Almighty, ever true to his promise caused them to be forgotten.
3) Ayesha saying that surah Ahzab was 200 verses during the Prophet's time..wait..I thought it was as long as Surah Baqarah which contains 286 verses? Again, simply, these verses were not codified and numbered. She's remembering the Quran as an oral recited scripture so what she or Ubayy bin Kab considered to be one long verse could in fact have been 2 or 3 short verses (and vice versa) thus accounting of her number of 200 verses. Added to that was the reality of abrogation, that would cause those companions who memorized it to forget those specific verses. Adam says that its illogical to assume that 213 verses or 5% (wrong, its actually 3.4%) of the Quran were abrogated but if we look at the Quran as a practical guide that took a period 23 years to be revealed, then this concept isn't farfetched.
4)You said that Uthman tried his best to "find" these 70 lost verses? Very dishonest of you. By the time he was the Caliph, the Quran was already compiled by the renowned experts of the Quran including the same Ubayy bin Kaab, Abdullah bin Masood and Zaid bin Thabit. Uthman only had to take the Mushaf compiled by Abu Bakr 4 years before. Also, it is a well established historical fact that Umar placed the same Ubayy bin Kaab (during his first Ramadhan as caliph) as the Hafiz to lead the Muslims in 20 Rakaat Taraweeh. What Quran did he recite? Why didn't anyone oppose his "Quran of extra verses" that he recited? The reality is, after the conpanions came together to compile the Mushaf, all of them were in full agreement as to what the Quran was. This fully supports the narrative of 'Tawaatur' continous, generational chain of the Quran being passed down.
5) Ayesha saying that the goat ate the verses of Quran proves what what we've been saying all along. The verses eaten and erased were those of adult breastfeeding and stoning of the adulterer. Which according to all the scholars and companions were abrogated from the Quran. No one debated about these issues. Stop with the deception. Adam says some remembered the verse some didnt..no what they remembered was it being part of the Quran at one time, but they forgot the actual wordings of the verses like all other abrogated verses Allah caused to forget.
6)Abduallah bin Masood did not have 3 surahs in his Mushaf -the opening chapter (Al Fatiha) and the final 2 surahs Falaq and Nas. If he didn't think of them as part of the Quran, then how did he pray Salah? Because reciting the Fatiha is essential for the acceptance of prayer. Obviously, it means that these surahs were so commonly known and memorized there was no need to have them included in his personal Quran. Everyone knows that Muawwazatain (Surah Falaq and Nas) are the cures of the Quran against black magic.
7) The hadith in Muslim speaking about the verse that a companion forgot and remembered it went like this, "if the son of Adam had two valleys of gold.." Either Adam doesn't know or he's hiding the truth; the companion mixed up this verse with a hadith of the Prophet Muhammad. He thought it was from Quran but wasn't.
8) "People are swearing by Allah to each other about the verses they received from the Prophet." Most likely what they heard was a dua (supplication) or statement from the Prophet and included it as part of the Quran. As evidence from the hadith of Muslim. This is why the council of the Quran was developed after the Rasool passed away, to evaluate, analyze and scrutinize every verse to bring a consensus of the Quran.
In conclusion, its easy to pick apart a few isolated statements here and there to discredit the Quran, but when we look at the facts of 1)Abrogation 2)The Quran only existing orally during Muhammad's time and not standardized with names of surahs and official number of verses 3) There were Huffaz (memorizers of the Quran) who existed within Muhammad's time 4) some companions mixing up supplications, hadiths and abrogated verses as Quran 5) A council was formed to scrutinize and officially pen every verse thereby correcting the misconceptions and misheard recited elements that were present among some of the companions 6)The Quran being recited in its entirety every Ramadhan for 14 centuries and being memorized during Muhammad's lifetime until today.
Your second point is so absurd it caused some of my brains cells to d1e.. Do you not see that that verse is just a lame patch to the bug? Astonishing.
@@Gargindale It's the promise of the Quran just like the verse, "It is We who revealed it (ie this Quran) and We will be It's protector!" This is sufficient for us Muslims.
@@zahirsookoor2673No Islamic Critic can every succeeded in human history, they will all try and and fall down with each other.
Many Greater Minds Tried and Failed unfortunately enough for Adam it will be the same.
By "lost" Imam Malik means "gone" i.e. "abrogated." He doesn't mean someone "misplaced" it which is why we no longer have it.
Basically, what Imam Malik said is that there were narrations from the Sahabah that Surah Tawbah used to be as long as Surah Baqarah. And he used this as evidence (because Surah Tawbah isn't currently as long as Baqarah) that there were other verses alongside the Basmalah that were in it, but are now abrogated.
This is the original quote in Tafsir Qurtubi:
وَقَالَ مَالِكٌ فِيمَا رَوَاهُ ابْنُ وَهْبٍ وَابْنُ الْقَاسِمِ وَابْنُ عَبْدِ الْحَكَمِ: إِنَّهُ لما سقط أو لها سَقَطَ بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيمِ مَعَهُ. وَرُوِيَ ذَلِكَ عَنِ ابْنِ عَجْلَانَ أَنَّهُ بَلَغَهُ أَنَّ سُورَةَ "بَرَاءَةٌ" كَانَتْ تَعْدِلُ الْبَقَرَةَ أَوْ قُرْبَهَا فَذَهَبَ مِنْهَا فَلِذَلِكَ لَمْ يُكْتَبْ بَيْنَهُمَا بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيمِ.
The word translated as "lost" in your translation is "سَقَطَ."
The evidence that he does not mean "misplaced" is that another narration from Imam Malik exists that elaborates on this particular narration in Tafsir Al-Qurtubi you quoted. Ibn Atiyah says:
وروي عن مالك أنه قال: بلغنا أنها كانت نحو سورة البقرة ثم نسخ ورفع كثير منها وفيه البسملة
It was narrated from Imam Malik that he said: It reached us that it was as long as Surah Baqarah. Then, a lot of it was abrogated and taken up and among that (the abrogated) was the Basmalah. (Tafsir Ibn Atiyah 3/3)
(Translation is mine)
Here, rather than "سَقَطَ", Imam Malik clearly says "abrogated and taken up."
In addition, saying Imam Malik meant "misplaced" doesn't make sense in context. This is because he says the Basmalah was also "lost" alongside it. In what sense, could someone claim the Basmalah is misplaced?
We have the letter by letter Basmalah obviously.
Imam Malik says we have knowledge that the Basmalah was part of Surah Tawbah.
So, in what sense could one claim the Basmalah was misplaced from Surah Tawbah?
In my opinion, "lost" was poor choice in translation, but even in English "lost" doesn't need to mean "misplaced." For example, if someone says: "I lost a million dollars," does he mean he misplaced them? No, he means he used to have them but for some reason no longer has them.
It is clear, then, that Imam Malik is saying it was abrogated as elaborated in the other narration.
As for evidence from the Quran that the earlier parts of Surah Tawbah are abrogated, that is easy. Open a mushaf. Do you see those parts of Surah Tawbah? If not, it was abrogated. The Quran is a mutawatir narration. It is its own proof that Surah Tawbah's verses are abrogated. No one narrated those verses to us, hence it is clear the Sahabah agreed on their abrogation (if they existed).
Adam, there is no need to be apologetic here. Again if your assumption is that abrogating 5% of the Quran is illogical. That in itself of itself is illogical God had ruling introduced for a specific period of time and abrogated it EVEN IF IT DOES NOT MENTION 2 PEOPLE DISCUSSING it in a Hadith. It does not mean that it was not abrogated haha. I think your using 50% of critical thinking and leave out the other 50% of it
where are the "breast feeding for adult" verses in the quran, that aisha's goat ate?
@@greenbird679 there was never a breast feeding verse. It was an revelation given to Muhammad SAW solely for Salim’s situation as they were in very tricky situation after an verse got revealed about adoption.
After that the verse immediately got abrogated. I suggest reading all Hadiths as most of the Hadiths that mention those 2 mention it being abrogated.
@@zt8337So you admit that islam is corrupted? Okay.
@@Leil2221 uh no God can abrogate and introduce a verse for a specific time period for a specific situation. Did you read what I sent?
“Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do all things?
Know you not that it is Allah to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth? And besides Allah you have neither any Walee (protector or guardian) nor any helper.”
[al-Baqarah 2:106-107].
your entire argument crumbles when Allah himself admits he can cause verses to be forgotten or abrogated.
We must to Leave islam to save the world free from higab
What ironic is
That hajib was made to protect women from creeps like u
To prove that more u can see the statistics showing that westren countries have highest rape rate in the entire planet
Thanks very important ❤.
You're welcome 😊
Commonsense dictates that the Koran is a man made book, which was written according to the understanding of the world at that time, it's words has been edited , omitted and what not , but people will believe what they want to believe true or untrue.
The quran is nothing like, say, the bible.
Q0ran goes into brain, logic goes out.
@@joek8948 There is no nonsense in the quran. No such thing like that of ezekiel 23:20!!!
@@sethsuleiman4419didn’t the video debunk the book? Yet, you’d call any other belief in other books delusional under the same parameters? Wouldn’t that be the definition of insanity? If you term others as insane for those kind of beliefs, wouldn’t you be also for the same exact circumstance?
@sethsuleiman4419 why bring the Bible in to it? Stop lying to yourself my friend. Face the truth, then move forward.
How can a lie be preserved
Lie? prove it then
Does the quran have any Contradictions?
Can u prove god doesn't exist using the quran?
Have u read the quran at the first place?
Can u prove that the bible have been preserved?
@@Evlanp Yes Quran has a lot of contradictions.
@@wandering_circles7487 show me
@@Evlanp There are contradictions in the Quran. Let me give you one. Surah 109:1-6 and Surah 9:5 contradict each other. Unless you are an illiterate like your prophet, then you can’t see it. The Bible is preserved that’s why you can still find errors, textual variations or some contradictions because it’s written by people not God. There are 40 authors of the Bible, so they cannot report the stories exactly same way.
@@danjumadogonyaro1759pffft u had better chance saying aisha was 9 😂😂
So now u have taken surah 9 without context so let me educate u
The surah was brought down by god because the pagans broke the treaty of peace
And even the Pagans he's referring to is the pagans who declared war on islam
Do u really think u would be alive if 2 billon ppl thought u should die do u really think 53 countries wouldn't demolish other countries of the face of the planet
How can they justify abrogation in their book of “facts” 😂
Can you make a video about the mistake that talk about the stage of pregnancy in the quran?
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Without lies Islam dies 💔 😢 Thank you sir.
I actually found the missing verses, the very beginning of the Quran, behold Surah 0: "Once Upon A Time..."
Mr. Adam, would you like to unveil about "alaqah" , a clot of blood blood. Can the "has been differentiated cell" like a clot of blood become another cell, for example it become a brain cell, a bone cell or a kidney cell medically without any genetic engineering ?
✝️ dies without the lies😂😂 💯☑️☑️☑️
So the way you defend your religion is by attacking another one ?
I learned it from you experts...
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Without lies islam dies indeed
You mean Islam? 😆😆😆 Muhammad ended by a Jewish woman.
@@Gargindale then why is Christianity collapsing? 😂😂😂
Thanks 👍🏾👍😃
Adam you are awesome, thanks for the content
What a coincidence that the only 2 verses that were lost in Aisha's care were verses that affected women exclusively. 🤔🤔🤔
كل الدعم و التقدير استاد ادم الرائع
Said they will make similar or better verses 😃
Excellent. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
So allah is uncertain that he has to abrogate his earlier revelations? Sounds like muhammad's plot twist to me.
Plus many Muslim mujahideen knew verses when others didn't while in combat they died and the verse was lost due to them being killed in Jihad. †