Never charge your headphones again! - Adidas RPT-02 SOL
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Adidas is trying to shake up the workout headphone market by releasing something unique -- solar-powered headphones! Though we've covered other headphones like this in the past, do the new Adidas RPT-02 SOL headphones find the right balance of price to performance?
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0:00 The unofficial history of Adidas
0:20 What makes these special?
1:09 Who made these?
1:40 Design and build quality impressions
4:29 Horst weighs in on the design
4:45 Sponsor - XSplit
5:19 Connectivity, specs, and price impressions
6:31 Thoughts on the audio quality
7:11 How the charging works
9:48 Other features in the app
10:22 Control frustrations
11:48 Mic test
11:58 Overall thoughts
13:40 Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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I like that they are packaged like a adidas shoe would be, rolled in the white paper :D
lmao
Yeah, the marketing makes them sound better too!
they could have wrapped them better tho
@@ronch182 Brands like these probably work by 90% marketing.
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I thought this would be some dumb headphones but I’m genuinely surprised at how effective they are accomplishing what they aim to do.
headphones/the drivers inside them are surprisingly efficient
I would like to see a review: After 6 Months of Use
I wonder if the battery longevity would actually be better than on a conventially charged Bluetooth headphones. Batteries love nothing more than to be trickle charged and never be fully charged or fully empty (30-80% battery happy place). If I'm wrong, let me know battery chem folks
I noticed that miss in the video. He mentioned “cycles” but if it’s going up and down a few percentage points those are hundredths of a cycle
It should be, but only if the battery management is done correctly, so long term real world testing is still required to find out.
You nailed probably the best value of those headphones. Battery life is all about Depth of Discharge (DoD). The wear is inversely proportional to the DoD. 100x 10% DoD is similar in wear to a 1x 100% DoD. A battery that is trickle charing from solar constantly will see very little cycle wear. If I was the disigner I would add a "life optimizer" setting that only charges to 80% when not in use and then when in use tries to regulate the battery around 60%. That charging cycle could result in a battery that has an insanly long battery life for a consumer product.
If these headphones mechanically hold up and resist UV rays well, then Adidas may have a problem with their headphones being too robust and not ever needing to be replaced.
There is no higher rating above IPx4 when it comes to sweat and/or rain. 5, 6 and 6K are for example if you are spraying with a hose. 7 is for 30 min under 1m of water, 8 is for longer duration and deeper distance, depending on what the customer wants a.k.a. manufacturer. Last rating, 9K, is purely atumotive - 80-100 bar with 80-100C of temperature - a power washer.
edit: check you the IP ratings (first number is foreign objects, the second is water). The numbers are just a class of protection, not a scale. And honestly it kind of doesnt make sense.
thx, useful info friend
To be fair, IP7-8 kind of implies higher protection from rain as immersion in water > rain. It's a nice to have for a peace of mind so you know it's essentially waterproof (for daily use).
@@jasonz8635 there's no such thing as waterproof for an electronic. plz dont use that word. it's water resistant.
@@CRneu notice how he said “essentially water proof.” There is nothing wrong with that expression
@@CRneu Yes but as QWERTY Utopia said, I said "essentially waterproof (for daily use)". I added caveats to it and thus it is an okay term to use. If I said "it's waterproof", then that's wrong, but if something is IP68 rated, in day-to-day use, you could essentially treat it as waterproof (so long as you don't do something egregiously out of normal use).
The solar panel impressed me. I am impressed.
Hopefully the successor improves the sound and the controls and gets a bit cheaper. Otherwise it won't be able to replace a pair of airpods.
solar panel is dumb ,its not efficient to workout in the sun thats why worlds best athletes are from europe
It might require some more evaluation.
The signature Zound Industries developed for Zinken had something like 12db of bass boost. One would think that should be absolutely MURDEROUS and just kill music solid, but it... didn't, they sound surprisingly palatable! Because the boost is firmly in the subbass and there's little of it left in the midbass; and also the midrange and top end are smooth and lush, avoid peakiness, and goes well beyond 17KHz. There was a little of a V-shape and scooped mid, but not even that prominent. Like obviously not studio reference headphones, but i would say, the goal of consumer reproduction equipment is to ruin as little music as possible, and while more neutral signatures usually accomplish this better, sometimes weird ones do surprisingly well, they really were less genre sensitive than their competitors such as Aiaiai TMA1.
Would have loved to see the measurement plot on this one. Whether they've done the same thing here, or whether the Fs shifted up.
Curiously i would say the main source of the signature sound was the pad formulation. Memory foam, extremely high density. Incidentally a problem with them is that the pads would last for about 5 years from manufacture, and while the model was sold, they'd also sell replacements at a reasonable price, but then, it became impossible to get replacements. After a few years from manufacture, the weld of the pads would fail and they would explode.
It'd be cool if LTT Labs could have some methodology of how useful it is for these devices to have tiny solar panels.
be cool if americans could say adidas correctly
@@girlsdrinkfeck If everyone says it “incorrectly” then doesn’t that make it the correct way to say it?
@@divorex4285 America is a minority its not everyone
The funny part is Adidas says their name the American in ads in the US
@@somethingsnowing they have to since the yanks got it wrong ,theyd be confused if they said it the correct way
That's a really clever idea for headphones, especially if you wear them outside often. The idle charging is a really cool idea, just to give them a little boost.
i even think if you left them near window in a room they would still trickle charrge
@@ademiravdic exactly. Just letting them rest in a place inside where they get a couple of hours of sunlight every day and that should be it.
Gives me a fun thought of having it on a survival phone or such as a back piece, would probably never use it, but would be very cool to see.
As soon as you said "on-ear" I was like HELL NO to ear-aches galore
"Over ear" is the best.
thank you! im glad someone else agrees, I feel on ear are very overrated
@@thespooner3906 I fully understand your point of view. But I've had on ears which didn't hurt after 4h+ listening and at the same time had over ears hurt at 4h+. So it's really relative if on ears suck more than over ears.
@@Daniel-dj7fh when getting over ear you gotta get a soft plush velour cushion, not leather heat insulating sweatfest, and it has to be bigger than your ear. I've had seinheisser HD598.
@@Daniel-dj7fh totally understandable, I guess it really depends on who makes them, It's sad even the mid range 200-500 can be a mixed bag between super comfortable with plenty of breathable air (no hot ear ears) and cheap pleater that fit poorly/sound terrible. I don't hate on ears I've just had bad experiences with them
@@thespooner3906 its because beats and the people who buy them don't know anything else
Washable headband and earpads are great. Wish more headphones would do that. Even cloth pads on most headphones are difficult to remove and put on, and don't wash well.
Just from a reparability standpoint, those removeable ear cups and headband are awesome!
Actually seem impressively well thought out. Nice to see a company actually try instead of just putting their logo on an OEM product and doubling the price.
I would never wear on/over ear headphones for sports!
Just the thought of sweating with them on, makes me uncomfortable.
@bannedfahim vlogs only eww
Earbuds are the move on workouts, I like that they're relatively easy to clean, especially nowadays
Over-ear- i can see that, yeah no. But on-ear, well if they're easy to clean, i don't see that much of a gripe. Like obviously individually dependent but really i wouldn't mind.
The Joystick seems to be the same as in the Marshall Major IV, and some of the other elements also look similar. But I really like the idea of continuously charging headphones and the fabric looks like a nice touch (literally),
Was that title an intended pun? lol
I quite like this alternate history Adidas foundation story
It's better than the real one
HERZOGENAURACH
hail
We've come so far in energy efficiency that we're getting more than just solar calculators and solar watches. Very cool
Truely worthy of the LTT brand, proudly mispronouncing brand names for 10 years.
That's just the US/Canada pronunciation
@@dennispremoli7950 which is wrong (I'm Canadian)
Wait till you find out how French people pronounce Kärcher lol
I have the original, non solar version, they sound fine for what they are. Really nice build quality and durability. They don't fold, but can toss them in a bag without worry of damage. Also several smart design elements from the headband to the ear cups.
I love the idea of low power efficient devices with tiny solar panels
When I was a teenager my dad gave me his old Citizen watch, which was already quite old and very banged up by that point.. but it had only a capacitor and photovoltaic face, no battery.
Being a simple wrist watch it was so power efficient that a 1" circle solar cell could charge and run it with ambient indoor lighting.
Shove it in a draw for a weekend though and it stops, but take it out and a few seconds later it starts ticking again
Some super rough 'back of the napkin' math suggests an analogue hybrid smart watch (full of health tracking sensors but only analogue hands - read out info on phone via bluetooth) could get a full day's charge with just ~20-30 minutes of sunlight. I think that's juuuuust out of reach for staying alive on ambient indoor lighting but it's pretty close. Maybe one day soon we can have a 24/7 health tracker that never needs to be removed for charging
NGL, they are actually pretty cool. Nice set of features and pretty good looking design.
They're really cool, but ~70bucks cool not 230 bucks.
@@Daniel-dj7fh 230? No. But Marshall Major by this same manufacturer are $130. So by all reason this couldn't have been less than $180, and Adidas is so well known for overpriced junk that i understand a bit of extra brand premium there as well. Generally Zound tunings are pretty palatable and excursion linearity is good, not everyone likes the tunings, but i happen to, and there are really worse headphones to dump money into at any pricepoint, sooo... like i DEFINITELY wouldn't buy them at anywhere near the price or at all, but if i was better off, i'd give it a listen, and probably would.
This is pretty well thought out product. I'm surprised how little companies care to have at least parts of their headphones to be easily removed and/or cleaned since many use headphones daily for multiple hours in a row when working (and also when doing workouts). They get disgusting pretty fast and often from sweat, grease, hair and hair products.
Also that constant trickle-charging should be great for the longevity of the battery if used in the right environment and if battery level stays between 20-80% so love that aspect in these. If not succeessfull enough these could be found in the discount bins in less than year and if you can grab these around $100-150 then it could be a pretty nice deal for the price.
I love the quick takes we get on short circuit from the people walking by the set.
I like how he put on a Cardboard colored T-Shirt to match the box.
Are there any plans for labs to test the range and signal strength of wireless headphones? I’ve had a terrible time finding reliable information on how far I can expect the signal to reach while I’m going downstairs while staying on coms with team mates in games.
“Ah-di-das” not “uh-dee-dus”. The founders name was Adi Dassler.
Adolf "Adi" Dassler. Member of the Nazi Party and supporter of the Hitler Youth who used captured Soviet soldiers as slave labour.
And don't forget Adolf's brother, Rudolf, who started the shoe making with Adolf under the name of Gebrüber Dassler. Later they separated, and while Adolf renamed the company as Adidas, Rudolf created his own company and brand, Puma.
Ah-dee-dass if you go with english pronounciation. 'di' would simply be pronounced 'die'.
It certainly doesn't fit me but I feel like they'd be great for people who work outside all day, like landscapers, farmers, that kinda stuff. Not only the solar charging but the washable stuff. Exercising is a good use case too but maybe a harder sell unless you're often running marathons or something. That said, maybe biking to/from work/school/other daily is a good enough use case, who knows.
WHY start with a horrible scream?
The headphones seem neat, mic doesn't sound good. No Aux built in kills it for me Also for the price, Don't think I'd buy them with some other options. Enjoyed the video otherwise.
Then you're not their targeted audience. Why do you need a mic in headphones you're wearing while working out? Having an aux cord would be a pain in the ass while working out. The price is because it's already an overpriced sports brand.
@@caenir not to mention that they would need to waterproof that port, which increases cost and introduces a potential point of failure
I own the old Rpt-01 model and I have had them for well over a year. They are the BEST headphones I have ever owned,the only downside is it can be quite tight on your ears when breaking them in and my type c outlet wont charge them anymore. As long as you get a warranty your set. 5/5 best buy!🎉
I hope the next iteration works out some of the kinks, and brings the price down a bit.
Please test these during winter. Interested to find out how below freezing affects the charging
My beats dre last up to -18 weather in toronto. And thats hoodie over the head phones lol these adidas wouldn't last over -5 because they are soo thin
One think i think you guys should consider during headset reviews is if they are glasses friendly.
Most on ears ive tried always end up being very uncomfortable or painful to wear
They said that would be tested by the Lab with their new high-tech head mannequins.
They should make a basic clear case for it, and then a premium charging case with a bigger solar cell on it - maybe a battery in the case for extra capacity
With 80 hrs of battery life, a spare battery would be a waste of money and resources
guys, not cool. why scream in first 2 seconds
0:12 what? Who is John Adidas? His name was Adolf Dassler and his brothers was Rudolf Dassler, he later founded Puma
"Adi" is the short version of Adolf and "Das" for his family name
@Christie Malry Audiobooks And they say germans aren't funny...
You could just cover the panels with some tape to check the battery longevity
I guess they use solar energy as base and then they take some from the battery if needed, so it actually would slow down degradation (since you need to charge less)
It would be stupid to charge the battery while taking energy from it at the same time.
would love to see a comparison to the better mics out there :) also more audiophile reviews
What case is he using on his OnePlus 7 Pro?
That thumbnail is 🔥
I actually may get these for mowing and riding my bike, I'm worried there may not be enough isolation for mowing but I do hate wearing my earbuds for any activity
I am curious about whether this concept will be adapted by other companies in the future.
On the one hand it sounds really cool to not worry about changing the battery at all, but on the other hand long battery life and quick charging make this somewhat redundant.
I wonder if it will charge with just the office light (yes a solar panel can charge of those)
Jonathan invading short circuit is my favorite part, too bad he wasn't there for longer
seem pretty dope for anyone whos active outside, or into eco friendly stuff. honestly surprised at the price point - would have assumed much higher
Don't kid yourself, there's nothing ecofriendly about plastic headphones lol
@@ParadoxalDream and what is the alternative?
@@ParadoxalDream Buying something plastic isn't the problem, throwing it away is.
Some lights as well charge on solar panels so maybe these are great for indoors as well
Wow i can't believe luke got to host a short circuit
A microphone test included in the review.. Awesome! Most other reviews don't have that yet I deem it significant to test the mic. And actually the mic doesn't sound too shabby.
Seems to be a really good option as for a workout headphone. Only that the price at the moment hasn't dropped much yet.
13:22 you can do noise cancelling with on ears, the beats pro does it, and it is pretty effective.
not one to judge but you could probably use something like a masking tape to cover all those panels to check the 80hr battery life.. Even collected dust over solar panels stop them from charging up stuff..
Are there really any bluetooth devices that even offer media scrubbing? Typically there'd be play/pause, volume, and next/previous and that's mostly it.
Fun fact, Adidas bought the three stripes from Finnish sport brand Karhu.
Other fun fact Adidas was founded by Adolf(Adi) Dassler after him and his brother Rudolf had a falling out. Rudolf started Ruda which later became Puma. Adidas is just the founders name.
@@Shemhamforash422 It was pretty funny to listen them making up story about "john adidas" founding the company, when the company is actually named after it's founder.
There are some cool ideas there for workout headphones, but too many drawbacks for what they cost. They also don't look like they swivel.
Do you know where I want to leave my battery powered electronics? Oh boy, you guessed it! Direct sunlight and hot
I used the rpt-01 for about a year now and they worked great in the gym but your ears can get sore if you use them under a longer section
Ive been using those for a while now. Mostly when running outside and it works really well. My ears also get sore after wearing them for a while.
That is a problem with on ear headphones in general not just these. On ears are terrible in general tbh
I have the rpt-01 for years, it's amazing. Use it everyday when I hit the gym. Really heavy bass sounds.
But the best feature is actually able to wash the ear cups thoroughly. Other on-ear would become stinky because the sweat.
And 01 battery life is already great, I only recharge it when washing, which is about once every 2 weeks.
But for running I use earhook instead. 'cus these ear cups are small they don't directly press onto the head. It will fall off.
Btw wish they sell ear cups separately, cus I only got the black one, it would be nice to just swap the colour.
Over had the first version of these (non-solar) since 2021. I've actually had three versions, because as good as they are (loud, bassy sound, firm fit), the power button kept failing after a while. It's a common issue. I'm hoping these don't have the same issue, as the sound and fit was superb.
The "problem" is probably me, and thus this probably simply isn't for me and my needs (and that's totally fine), but when i'm listening to headphones, it's typically either dark (trying to not disturb others), or indoors in comfort lighting (on the couch or in my home lab)... even when i work out, that's indoors too and usually under low lighting... sure, it's till probably a fine wireless headphone that can charge over usb, but the solar part is lost on me... and when i'm NOT using them, they live in my pack, in the dark...
does the music automatic stop when you took them off? also i read bad reviews about multiple device connection: if you connect it to both iphone and mac, the headset forgets the previous devices. is it true?
@ShortCircuit the title is wrong they are the RPT-02 SOL, not 01
Solar charging should be made for most devices, like TWS earphone cases, mobile phone or mobile phone cases etc.
Amazing video as usual.
Could you guys also take a look at the jbl quantum tws, they're earbuds with a 2.4 ghz dongle! Kinda interesting.
honestly the mic didn't sound half bad, especially for what it is. The fact that it's made by the same people who make marshall stuff definitely lends some legitimacy to them for me. Not really something i'd use but it does seem like a pretty good product
I hope they sell replacement parts, like for example hyperX does.
I wish you guys did a review of the short lived beats solo pro. I drive them daily with my AirPods and find them so much better than AirPods for working out at the gym
Small Solar Panels on overhead headphones are something im hoping it will become more than just a gimmick, this would relief so many issues in using wireless headphones out in public with no wallplugs in sight
Me too, but I highly doubt. Otherwise it would have been more spread out.
And I really don't think Adidas would have been the first to really put the idea at market.
I find that headphones with 16+ hours of battery life are not a problem unless you're the kind of person that always forgets to charge your stuff
@@Daniel-dj7fh Adidas is not the company behind the solar panels, it's a Swedish company called Exeger (who manufacture everything in Stockholm). Their thing is extremely thin, bendable and waterproof solar panels which is still a very new product, so they've simply found a partner to create proof of concept products on a limited scale.
@@Arat1t1 interesting
I have no idea people say over-ear. It was always around ear AE and OE for the other.
Adidas was actually founded by the german Adolf Dassler. His brother founded Puma.
I've had the RPT-01 since the end of 2019 I believe, and I'm super impressed with them. As a semi-audiophile, they're not the most phenomenal sounding but I think they have the best sound tuning for non-audiophile headphones. I hope these are very similar in sound and comfort because I'd love to upgrade to these for taking walks and leave the 01's for using at home or during travel.
Yessss I need more of him moreeee haha. Seriously he's a great host.
Alex, when are we getting your surface laptop 5 review?
Would love to see how these stack up versus the Urbanista Los Angeles headphones (also solar powered headband)
I have had the urbanista los Angeles for around a year and they have never been below 60 % battery and I've only ever charged them once when first getting them ( I don't use them everyday but they do get used occasionally , been really impressive they take a few weeks to break in tho very high clamping force when new )
Probebly the same headphone becouse there is the same company they made this.
Urbanista is just branded aliexpress crap.
@@ThePapaja1996 have you seen both of them..? Pretty damn different
@@tudalex if so, care to link the AliExpress crap? I’d love to buy them for cheap. Or is that just an exaggeration or assumption?
I could see "Passive Charging" a problem for batttery life, since over charging batteries are bad..
I thinks it's time for a complete headphone test again.
In the sun it wasn't charging at 30mAH, it was charging at 30mA.
UrbanEars was an offshoot of Logitech that got rebranded as UE. I had a UE MiniBoom for years until it just died. Now I have a SoundCore
UE was Ultimate Ears and is a brand of Logitech. Zound Industries sell headphones under the brand Urbanears, Marshall and adidas. Marshall and Adidas are licenced for headphones
it doesn't charge under your studio lights?
Who made Adam into the Teletubbies sun?!
ikr, i was searching for a comment about that 😂
Why is the video title rpt-01 but video and box says rpt-02?
I like that idea and very curious about their new solsr tech cell material that converts all forms of natural and artificial light into battery life. So not just sunlight also artificial light. Would be awesome to see this properly tested.
Conventional solar cells can also convert artificial light into electricity, it's just that sunlight is much brighter than most artificial lights.
@@TehFreek Not brighter, but alot more of the spectrum. Solarpanels can "use" anything from 400 to 1100 nm thereabout. LED light has large blue portion that is sub 400nm (thats what cause the ugly blue light from early led bulbs) and past like 650 theres pretty much nothing. Sunlight on the other hand is every possible wavelenght of light.
@@TehFreek thanks for the clarification. It still is an intriguing topic for me😊
@@meinnase thanks for the added information😊
Being able to wash EVERYTHING is quite amazing.
JBL was going to make these once upon a time, I pledged through Kickstarter, but it fell through...
13:19 No noise canceling on on-ears? My JBL Tune660BTNC has noice canceling and is a on-ears headphones
It would have been preferable if they had been packaged in a box with a visible window so we can get a mostly charged headphone rather than just 1%.
You know it's bad when you are willing to super skip to the ad segment when you see Horst enter the shot
If your usual headphones are Beats, I can trust anything you say when it come to audio quality.
can't* ?
This comment confuses me greatly
*usual workout headphones. If you use wired reference open back headphones to workout, you're insane but I respect that.
Workout headphones,he said.
crazy xpslit still around when obs is free
I love this concept and I want to see Adidas or someone try and push out a high detail set of solar headphones. Never need to charge HiFi headphones? Yes please.
I like them but sound quality is fairly important to me.
MARSHALL EARBUDS ARE FANTASTIC. PLS REVIEW THEM
Sadly wont work in sunny Sweden.
Just 2 words
"Wired Headphones"
I thought I didn’t have to charge them but solar panels don’t work when I don’t go outside
god i hope i see more tech that has solar panels for charging
I like these conceptually being a sustainability consumer behaviour researcher. I'm not going to write it off because its adidas making headphones or a sustainable product.
However I would actually like to see an indepth discussion about the sound versus "it's boomy". What are the graphs like? How far does it deviate from the harman target? What are the other frequencies like?
I get that some people buy headphones for more than the audio, but you've got to give the sound more than 40 seconds of discussion.
my ears.. that hard clip at the start .. with headphones on.
He said on ear headphones can’t have noise cancellation? I have the Beats Solo Pro and they have the same H1 chip the AirPods Pro have with I’d say the same quality ANC and transparency mode the only drawback with them is during transparency mode it’s just a little hard to hear your own voice than it would with the AirPods Pro.
And before my Beats Solo Pro I had the JBL 460NC and they have noise cancellation and transparency as well and even ear detection and the JBLs were $130 and even for $99.95 right now.
Genuinely impressed.
The removable earpads & headband (made with materials other than the usual stupid PU leather that flakes after a year), the solar charging, the app showing you how much charge you're getting. 😗👌
If the frame is an alloy/metal and an over ear, might have been decently priced for it’s features. But at it sits, your paying for the brand and concept
I also have a multi directional control nipple
I would like to see a review: After 6 Months of Use