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Whether they get back together or not, the way they work together to co-parent and still respect each other is so admirable. Good for them. I hope they find what works for them as far as their relationship.
I very much agree. I think that they show a lot of care and concern for one another - which, honestly, is probably more normal in a separation than it's made out to be (drama sells, after all). I do think it's obvious that they are in different places in their own healing and I hope that, in the end, they both find a lot of satisfaction in those journeys. It is clear that they will do the best they can by their children - which is so very important.
Steven basically relapsed and had a breakdown and it lead to Laura realizing that there was alot of issues they needed to work individually so she decided to step away to make a better life for the kids and themselves. He is ready to get back together but she still leary which is understandable. That's the gist.
I am only commenting this because I haven't seen anyone else say it yet: Laura, you should be proud of yourself for setting your boundaries and continuing to respect them. You may or may not feel pressure from Stephen about getting back together, but you are doing a hell of a job respecting yourself and your limits (even when it comes to the language you choose when discussing your relationship). That deserves to be celebrated.
i thinks she is a fake,though. got the house on Steven s back, now she resides there..and not there for him when he needed it. . sad for the kids, but Stephen is a gentleman, deserves someone wayy better. would like to see laura,s bounderies if she had to make her own living,pay rent .
@@ottoottololla4410 ... You do know Laura's channel was the primary money maker by far since Stephen had quit working on films. I can promise you she is making her own living and probably footed the vast majority of the home. And even if she didn't, nobody is obligated to be in a relationship with someone because they paid for something.
This is a woman who is So Done, but has to do what is best for her children. And I respect all the efforts Stephen's putting into improving his life. It's beautiful that you both are able and willing to go through this with us all watching, but I get that it helps pay those mortgages at the same time. Just wow! Relatable and rare, GENUINE content.
She’s turned her heart off to him. When your partner tells you they’re going to kill themselves- it really effects your mind and heart. My ex completed the threat on my birthday. Devastated me. Completely shattered me. She’s protecting her heart. It may seem like she’s being cold to him, but she’s in defense mode. It’s not poor Steven..it’s poor Laura because her heart is broken too.
I lost my fiancé due to an accident that was his own doing, though it may not be similar I know the exact feeling you’re talking about. She’s doing the right thing for her happiness.
Wait a second Simply Shannon, flip the scenario. If you went to your husband and said, "I feel awful, I am having suicidal thoughts" What you're saying above is that your husband would be affected in the heart and mind. Then if you did complete the threat as you said. He would be devastated and shattered. So... if a partner, male or female goes to another and asks for help, you should help each other. The fact you think your partner reaching out for support and help is victimization of you! Is insane to me. Turned off her heart to protect herself, Did her heart not love him and want to love and help him. You think walking away from someone you love because they may break your heart is mad.
Oh honey. I can see your light is dim. Everyone saying how sorry they feel for him, but I recognize your body language, your tone, the look in your eyes. You're tired, heartbroken. Yet you keep pushing through to start with us. You are literally amazing Laura. Don't let the light go out. I let mine go out and now I don't know how to get it back.
Completely agree. I hope she knows better than to feel guilty by him and the public, and I hope she knows better than to feel responsible for his sobriety because its not hers to carry. Steven is a narcissist, she would be very smart to never get back together with him again.
Okay don’t pitty her and don’t attack her ex husband. Your situation may not be hers. She actually is trying to heal and keep him in her life as co parent.
I just wanted to say, thank you for discussing the lack of male connection for Dad’s, I was recently involved in a deck collapse that left me with 3rd degree burns over 15% of my body, my amazing husband has spent 5 months taking care of my medical needs, working his job and taking over my stay at home mom job, I noticed how run down he was and I felt like he needed some connections which he didn’t have outside of me, he started playing a sport he loved at a local rec center and in just 1 week of making those male connections his mood, energy and love of life has done a 180, there is not enough focus on the Dad’s in our life having that male support and they need it too
I am going through chemo and my husband takes care of me and it’s not always pretty . He does his wing Chung lessons once a wk and he lifts weights every morning . He plays his drums. I’m getting my last chemo treatment today yay!
I completely respect Laura's attitude to separate...then possibly divorce. Sometimes things just don't work out...and there's a perfectly good reason for that. Sometimes enough is just enough, and it's time to move on. Good on her for realizing that.
This made me so sad 😢 Stephen is trying so hard to win Laura back but Laura has clearly reached a place that she might not be able to come back from. I’m sure she was telling him over and over again before they separated and he chose not to listen. It looks like she resents him now. It’s so sad though. I hope they both find happiness.
We know so little about what truly happened with them. What was said and done behind closed doors. The hurtful words that were said. She has her guard up, rightly so. Living with an addict with a plethora of other mental health issues is hard, fucking hard.
❤️❤️❤️ You both have been so open and vulnerable during this whole time. Thank you for inviting us in.... Even when you didn't have to. We love you, and we're rooting for both of you ❤️
Poor guy, she is done and has left the building. He just hasn’t accepted it yet. Hopefully they both find their new paths to happiness and maintain their parental connections ❤
It could change, she's experiencing the freedom she hasn't had in sooo sooo long. I'm sure she has tried making it work for so long she's just mentally, emotionally and physically tapped out at the moment. She needs to live her life and re find herself. They could possibly get back together a year from now but if they don't, that's ok too.
I would not say “poor guy” just because he is wearing his feelings on his sleeve more than she is. While I agree that Laura seems very done, and is working very hard to walk on eggshells without breaking any at this point, the carton’s already been dumped on the floor. I commend Laura’s focusing on co-parenting and can’t imagine how hard it is for her to work with him/coparent with him, and not simultaneously enable him.
I can’t help but feel really sad for Stephen. I feel like he’s such an amazing person- & he’s so great with his children. I know we only get to see a little of your lives but I can’t help but feel like he just hit a rough patch..like we all do when we struggle with mental illness& addiction. Whether or not he and Laura can work it out..I genuinely hope Stephen works it out with himself & can eventually find someone to share his life with. He has so much love to give- I can tell. I wish you both the absolute best. I also applaud Stephen for even doing this- I don’t think I could have done this without suffering consequences mentally. To sit there with my ex who I am still madly in love with would be extremely hard…he’s all smiling but I know he’s hurting during this interview.
It makes me really sad! I totally agree! She’s way to cruel to do this to him. Hopefully her son Alfie finds someone more kind and understanding of his autism symptoms when he marries one day. I’m sure Laura won’t want to see a woman leave her own son for having a melt down and becoming overwhelmed. No one is perfect and she isn’t either. She clearly has that upper hand and poor Stephen.
AE totally agree. I'm not so sure he should've done this podcast. Might set him back a bit. I wish the best for Stephen. He's a good man & will find love again, w/ someone who understands him & will stay by his side through thick & thin. Stardom almost always causes marital problems
OK reading the comments on this comment, I'm relieved that I'm not the only one who picked up on this. It's heartbreaking to see Stephen be beyond thrilled to even be in the same room with her and Laura being...idk, giving off kind of an angry, defensive vibe. And I get it because that's the way some people protect themselves after being really hurt. It seems like that guard up that she mentioned makes her look cold and standoffish and in contrast he's glowing with pure joy at being in her presence. It looks bad but I've been in a similar situation and she needs to do what she needs to do to protect herself until she makes the terrifying step of trusting again. It's sad and hard to see and makes her look very unsympathetic and we all know Laura. She's not cruel and she wouldn't have this behavior if she didn't feel like she needs it right now. His pain is very public, we've only seen snippets of hers. I can't villainize her as much as I want her to be different with him right now but I did see it too and I'm glad I'm not the only one because I felt like I possibly imagined it. Trying to be supportive of both and on the side of everyone being truly happy, whatever that looks like in the end.
If his aim is to get back with her, he's doing everything wrong. On his channel he comes across inconsistent, insecure , unsure and constantly seeking approval. None of which is attractive or convincing that he won't go into the spiral that's brought them to this point.
@@susanthomas4350 he was verbally abusing her for months before this and constantly pushing her away. Then he went and had a huge blowout almost unaliving himself and you want her to get on the ground and beg for him to come back to her?! Nah
Stephen seems so nervous which makes it so cute because it shows how much he still loves her. Laura seems like she's just going through the motions and has her guard up as to not confuse him into thinking they are getting back together.
They are going to be ok! Together or not… their chemistry is beautiful. Best friends, coparents, a couple… what ever it is. They will be ok! I wish them the best!!! No matter what!
"I want you back" Those words hurt me and hes not even my husband. Steven, you almost took that option away forever. I understand that you are getting better. And coparenting is going as well as it can. But on lauras end, How could she say the same to you, If you were gone permanently. Maybe one day you will get back together. Until then, I hope your actions show what you say... Love to you both❤
The five things I am grateful for: 1. Being alive and having a roof over my head. 2. Listening to you talk on your channel (your channel has helped me through a lot of rough patches) 3. My dogs
It's exactly what Laura admits to, she has a guard up- most likely rightfully so. And Stephen is smitten and high energy because he is a man determined to win his family back. I hope they get through this stronger individually and more in love in the end ❤️
Stephen, you absolutely radiate light when you look at Laura. I haven't seen you this truly animated in a long, long time. Laura your comedic talent shines with Stephen. I'm praying for your family.
At first, my heart went out for Stephen because like everyone said, he clearly adores his family and seems to understand what it means to be a good father and a family man. But listening to Laura talk about his behavior towards her while he was struggling helps put things in perspective. Do I want Laura to just be like “Yes! Come home, Stephen!!”? Absolutely! But at the same time he hurt her so deeply for so long. Because of his struggles, his behaviors made her feel small, diminished, unworthy, and unloved. Stephen is 100% trying, no doubt about that, but he’s not perfect, so right now, I’m sure that anytime he displays behaviors remotely close to his previous behaviors it brings Laura back to all those times she was hurt. I think in addition to understanding what makes a good father, it’s important for Stephen to understand and learn how to be and what it means to be a good husband to Laura. Whatever happens, I genuinely wish happiness for the both of them 💕💕
I can't believe so many people are diagnosing their entire relationship based on one podcast. Some saying they are in love, others saying there's nothing there anymore. How ridiculous. We don't know how they feel and have no right saying any of this. Only they know how they feel and I would love to see them back together because they had so much love and compassion for each other but either way I just wish them both the best.
I don't think anyone's crazy, I think it's quite clear that Laura is speaking of their relationship as past tense and Stephen is the only one who doesn't know that they're over. She needs to be direct and tell him so he can mourn the actual loss of their relationship and begin really healing from it. It's kind of....wrong not to tell him.
Stephen has repeatedly asked for peoples opinions….he speaks his truth and so will other people. It can’t be helped if what is said is not what he wants to hear. If so….maybe living his separation via a public forum is a mistake. I too wish they both find a peaceful and mutually acceptable answer to this sad situation.
L: - when Stephen comes visit me at my home S: - when i come home L: - when he visits me at my home Man, did i feel his pain.... This podcast was so painfully awkward to watch. Laura is so over him. He was so nervous, his laugh is not a joyful laughter full of love and hope...He might still love her, i give you that, but it would be better for him to build his life elsewhere, cause Laura won't take him back. I wish them both lots of good energy and harmony and i hope they find their strength and joy.
As someone who has been hurt by her husband over and over and keeps taking him back, your body language feels very relatable to me. Protecting you and your kids well being is instinctual and you shouldn't question your instincts to do whatever you need to do. Every time I separated from my husband, I floated back on his every promise and didn't wait to actually see him prove anything. I regret that almost every day. The pain of being hurt again was almost unbearable.
Was your partner on the autistic spectrum ? Mine is , so I’m curious . I’m ADHD and the dynamic is quite different than , neurotypical couples. I’m sorry that you had such a difficult time . I don’t feel sorry for Stephen here . I think that he’s definitely expressing adoration ( who can blame him ) I think that their willingness to do this, speaks volumes, regarding how much they actually do care about each other. I actually see two people who have had a bloody hard year / lockdown . That are doing there very best to heal . Anyways sending you and them blessings 🙏
That was way too niche. I thought it was bullying. Sitting there talking About the guest as a ''third person." SHe oughta go get couselling TOO and redo the steps especially the audit. Her addiction needs checking - where does acting END - whenis OFF STAGE?
Yet here she is exploiting him as honestly who else would go on her podcast? Most people have no idea who she is! She’s far to big for her boots. Stop trying to make Stephen out to be the bad guy. He has a mental illness. Laura is not perfect. If anything she comes across the narcissist. Obsessed with ‘being famous’ with very little talent. I’m not surprised Stephen became seriously depressed. She uses Stephen for content all the time. She has nothing to give without him.
We all need to remember the last 6-12 months we’re hard on Laura. Does she want to go through that again? I think she still loves Stephen but has a lot to work through. Stephen wants things to go back to normal. Laura’s normal changed. Her guard is up. His isn’t.
I listened to the podcast, cried during that 20 something second deafening pause right along with both of you. Stephen take it day by day, stay present, trust has been broken, but the love for you from Laura is there... don't push, heal.. I'm so proud of both of you. I'm nobody, but I'm invested, lol. You 2 are 2 of my fave people and help me daily to stay focused, present and SOBER!!
I think they both still have a lot of healing. 10yrs together and recovering addiction then a tragedy makes you change your paths. It doesn't mean they won't realign. I think they are best friends deep inside and this is just hard. It would be hard for anyone in private or public. I wish them both well wherever they land.
yes but it can lead to dependence since someone who loves you will do anything with you and it makes it easy to depend on them. Which is can lead to codependency. Just wanted to add my view point since I am trying to get out of my codependency, I have kids and I'm autistic (currently being diagnosed). I think its ok to be cautious and to explore freedoms and the thrill that it gives.
I was so overwhemled when I watched this - almost as if I was sitting across from my ex-husband. There is a tangible feeling here - you can see it in your eyes, in your smile, that guarded, nervous, "don't come too close to my heart please" feeling. I am so sorry. Sometimes, there are things you don't have to say, because we know. There is a massive community of women who KNOW without words, those feelings, that anxiety, that fear - we stand together in silence I feel, because really, to force our truth into the world is futile. We know it. We lived it. We survived it. And we are here xx
I am so glad that Steven seems to be doing better. I'm glad that Laura is not giving in to his wanting to get back together. The work they are both doing on themselves is too important. If they are meant to come back together they will when the time is right.
Laura, it’s very brave for you and Stephen to sit and do this podcast. I’m gonna hop over to listen in full. It’s hard for people for whom this is so new and raw to do. ❤
I just love the both of you, separately and together. The hopeless romantic in me wants you and Stephen to work through this and get back together, you have beautiful synergy together. The realist in me knows that I haven't walked in either of your shoes and only the two of you know what's best for each of you. I pray for your wellness, your healing, and your peace, always. Thank you to both you and Stephen for sharing your vulnerability with us. I will try to find the podcast on spotify to listen to the rest. Oh, and I did all the things! ♡
Stephen is adorable. How wonderful that he has taken so much effort to work on himself and also to impress you. I love this!! I wish there were more men like him! Great interview Laura! ❤️
My husband went crazy 7 years ago and had a midlife crisis. He cheated on me. But we decided to give it another go. It was hard at first. But he's put in the effort. Our relationship now is stronger then its ever been. It doesn't happen for everyone though. It's got to be give and take and work on both parties part. I wish you both well. 💕
I actually love y’all together but I’m obsessed with this self discovery journey you’re on! I don’t blame you at all for wanting to continue to grow rather than risk getting stuck in the same cycle again. Hope whatever happens, y’all both keep pushing yourselves as individuals.
I have to say I really am amazed that the two of you are still there for each other and helping one another through this difficult time. I have worked in a psychiatric hospital for years, and can only count on one hand how many patients have the support that Stephen is getting. You are such a bright and amazing human for doing this. I wish my patients had more support from their children's other parents. Many don't have it, and sadly we hear that they lost their battle. Thank you for standing by him, I know how truly hard it is for you both.
The way Laura talks to Stephen makes me feel really sad. I don’t even know why. I guess I sense pain as an empath and I’m just so sad for the situation. I hope they get a happy ending!
I swear I could've recorded these. My husband and I went thru the exact same thing. Codependency. Mental health issues. Both of us completely lost ourselves. Separated 6 mos refocused on ourselves, our faith & our mental health. Our marriage & family life has never been better.
Yay, I'm so glad for you! Hope the same happens for them. They are funnier together. Like: Burns & Allen, Wilma & Fred, martin & lewis, Abbott & Costello 😊
Stephen is SO happy with his family! Laura makes him laugh and I see it more now! He lights up! He’s himself - he’s excited, he’s happy. I’m not saying “get back together“ but I’m SO happy they’re such a good team when together ❤
It is cute but... I imagine that's part of the problem. What grown woman wants to be married to a teenager? He is very sweet but when he talks about what he misses, it is about him. He misses the way she made him feel. There was nothing specifically about her as a person. I imagine she wants an equal partner, not someone who is dependent on her for their everything. He can be sweet but still would not be a good partner until he can take responsibility for himself & his own well-being. Just my opinion.
I'd rather be married to somebody that adores me then somebody that cheats on me and there's a lot more of those kind of people out there in the field of looking for a new partner than there are people that really deserve one like Steven.
Steven seems to have that nervous laugh that reminds me of me when I’m around a loved one has been emotionally distant with me and I’m trying to reconcile 😢
Wow, I found this to be very positive, respectful, and grown-up. I see a lot of maturity in both of you. You both have my utmost respect for being so very sensible as both parents to two beautiful children
Laura is an extremely strong woman. She’s very driven and full of love. That love for her family is driving her. I’m 55, and have a 35 year old special needs son who is high functioning. However at this stage of our lives I lean a lot on my husband because you do get mentally exhausted which has become physically exhausting. Every step of my sons life has been getting the right help and making sure he has his best life. At 55 I’ve learned I have to step back more for self care. He’s still my sunshine everyday and always will be. But I’m extremely lucky our 37 year marriage is still strong and I’ve got someone to help 100% and lean on. Laura great job! Make sure you have a core of people to lean on. God bless
Loving the light hearted humour in this guys! Together or not you guys have an inimitable chemistry together - so no matter what don’t stop making content.
I feel like some people don't understand that just because someone loves you, doesn't mean you have to love them back. They can treat you the best, they may not be at all a bad person, but not right for you. Basically, don't force a relationship to happen for anyone. Do what you feel is right.
It is so interesting watching the two of you, strangers as of right now, you are both evolving independently and its wonderful to see but the love in your eyes for each other wether romantic or not is evident. Keep moving forward to better yourselves and focus on what’s important to each of you, no matter the outcome.
Trust is so hard to rebuild once it’s gone or compromised. Being guarded and careful is understandable. There’s so much truth in “time will tell.” Stephen’s laugh is pretty infectious. It made laugh quite a few times. Thoughts and well wishes are with you both. ❤️
I'm not a committed watcher but I've checked in on yall for several years. I'm also going through a lot so I decided to sit and watch this whole thing. I'm glad I watched. So bittersweet and real
That was a great conversation. I am rooting for you both in whatever you do. Thank you for sharing. And Laura, i am very happy & proud of you being sober for 11 years😊
First time i found out about you was a FB video; you were so pretty but so goofy & funny. I never saw a pretty woman act that way around her partner & not be embarrassed. I could never be myself w/my exhusband, nor did we hang out w/other couples like that. I saw Stephen get more involved in your videos, & y'all became my favorite couple. I learned a lot from y'all. I was shocked that y'all survived addictions and were able to be so confident and vulnerable. I really did learn a lot from y'all. So grateful for y'all. Partnership. Teamwork. Then i saw y'all were separated. This is funny stupid, but it hit me harder than anything I've been through, including my divorce, which hurt like hell. I guess y'all already have the friendship and communication going, and the best co parentingI've ever seen, but i hope that y'all can work it out, slowly i guess, but eventually. I wish y'all were characters in a novel that has a happy ending. I'm proud of y'all either way.
Thank you for sharing…. I’m finding life difficult at the moment… many negative thoughts…. I’m totally going to think of 5 things daily that I’m grateful for. Thanks again, keep on, keeping on!! 😊 xxx
This is great, Steven and Laura. Seriously, there is a sense in which you two have made a pact to guide two beautiful children into the world and ultimately to self sufficiency. There is a sense that you have been together and through times together that it's too late to turn back. I am happy to see that you are supporting each other in this phase of growth. It's not like there will not be others, because life does go on. I guess what I am saying is that you care about each other such that you are able to allow each other the space to grow separately. Anyway, that's my take Laura. Blessings to you both. Love Greg
So, so, so refreshing! I’m so happy that both of you could get to this place. Such rich history here. Thank you both so much for sharing. I feel like this gives couples hope who also have struggles.
It feels like Laura was mocking him throughout this entire video... Stephen, I absolutely LOVE that you are so open minded and are seeking TRUTH and are not just believing things because you're TOLD TO! This video made me like Stephen even MORE! I hope Laura let's her guard down and allows him back in emotionally and physically.
Right off the bat when he said "a hot seat is someone is sitting somewhere hot" she said "that's so autistic of you to say that" really made me feel weird. He's been so open about his mental health which is great! But to make fun of is not cool. I don't know their relationship so I won't judge. Just thought it was weird.
@@mandys0088 honestly, she has lost me as a fan. She reminded me throughout the entire movie of snippets of my narcissistic ex. I will be unfollowing her. I have no idea what happened personally with them, but her colors are showing.
I honestly feel so much for this man. The strength to be able to sit there and do this would of taken every fibre of his being. I honestly wish them peace in this journey. They don’t need people throwing the two cents in. Unless they ask for your opinion it’s not needed. Love and strength to you both ❤
Feel for him? I feel for her . To put up with him . He lost her . And him talking about her and make videos mentioning her thats messed up . He’s on drugs she has all the right to not want him. He can’t stay sober
@@welermo1109 may you never deal with any type of addictions. May you never make any mistakes. May your vision never be clouded and your choices never be wrong. Mighty big and compassionate yo sit behind your screen pointing your finger and judging. At the end of the day whatever mistakes his made no one can make him feel any worse then him not being able to be with his kids. Put them to bed and wake up with them. Addiction is a horrible thing. Don’t judge someone when you haven’t lived their life. May you find peace in your life that stops you from being such a judgmental keyboard warrior ✌🏼
I’m so glad that Stephen is working on himself! That makes me so happy and I really hope he continues to do so because he looks wonderful! I understand how hard a breakup can be, at the moment it probably seems so so difficult to understand and accept that you and Laura are no longer together, but trust me when I say, it gets BETTER. That heartache gets better. No matter what the outcome I wish you and your family ALL the absolute best! Hang in there Stephen everything will be ok.
The upspeak bit 😂 I DIE when you guys talk about it and exaggerate it and give like at least 3 more examples than we need. I die every time. 😂😂😂 love you guys!
I do think your dynamic when you are together makes for the strongest content. Keep taking it day by day, but the fact that you haven’t run out of things to say to each other is something special.
I've been married twice once for 4 years and once for seven and both of them ended in a divorce because of their choice and I really wish that I would have had a husband carrying as Steven.
I applaud you both. Ive been in similar shoes, Laura. Its hard. Seriously hard. Coparenting is difficult, coparenting like Laura is doing is even MORE difficult. Good job, momma
Both of these people have been my safe space for years, and it’s truly heartbreaking to see them not all bubbly and happy together, but they must do what’s best for not only them as people but for their wonderful children, i hope for the best for them and their kiddos, love your family so much!!
@@katjaxxx7353 hard to watch, she talks to him like he’s stupid or something…I dunno what this interview was all about but I’m a little baffled by the “wow you guys have such great chemistry” comments because Laura was definitely cold in this one.
I feel bad for Steven for some reason . He’s clearly head over hills . Overly animated , trying to get through the interview. Of course I don’t live with them and don’t know all of the dynamics of the relationship. So don’t come for me a get that the videos they both share are just a snippet of real life .
You feel bad for him because Laura is making fun of him and being low key annoyed with him. She should really take him back. He’s a sweet man, who just had a troubled issue, and he’s working on himself. It’s not like he beat her. Shit
Congrats on 11 years, Laura!!! So proud of you for keeping it up 🥳🎉🎊 … _5 things I’m thankful for:_ … 1️⃣ my 7+ years of sobriety from hard drugs, cigarettes, & alcohol 😅 2️⃣ having my own studio apt to retreat to & feel safe in ❤ 3️⃣ watching TH-cam videos from absolute strangers on the internet… even tho I’m very antisocial rn & rarely go outdoors, it’s lovely to still feel somewhat connected to other humans who understand me 🥲 4️⃣ being able to pay my electric/WiFi bills, so I can get lost playing Animal Crossing: New Horizons on my Switch 🎮 5️⃣ my family. My 3 siblings, 2 nephews, & 3 cats 💞🐈🐈⬛🐈💞
Great interview! I'd love to see you interview Tiffany Jenkins from Juggling the Jenkins. She is really funny and also battled addiction and wrote a book about it. Her sober Anniversary is this month!
Feel sorry for Stephen, he really loves Laura, but she doesn't want it anymore 😢 she is trying to tell him in a really kind way. Love you both and hope you both find peace and happiness xx
I love how honest you both are. I'm In a similar situation. My partner of 8yrs (known him and was childhood neighbors from when I was 7) both struggled with addiction. Got clean for couple years then relapsed earlier this year. Finally had to seperate and I went into treatment. (Will have 5 months clean again on the 12th) I just moved into my own place 3hrs away. And dealing with codependency. This is the first time I've been on my own since I was 20. Only now I have my 2 daughters with me. But without them I don't know how I'd be handling things as they are atm. We are both very hopeful things will work out but right now just working on ourselves (separately) it's so hard but also feels rewarding at the same time. It's definitely about sticking to boundaries, but like I said I'm still hopeful it will work out for us down the road. All the best to you and Steven! And side note to Steven. Congrats on working the 90x90. That's huge! I'm currently working the program but only on step 4 and been on it for awhile now. Keep it up!
If 1 time in your life you're fortunate enough to connect with someone on this level.. you are heads above the rest of us. This is hard to watch! I adore you both!
Something is just off about this. 😒 (I couldn’t watch past her throwing him under the bus about “conspiracy theories”) She knows what’s happening here. I don’t find it cute at all.
Laura, I commend you for doing this interview. I have been there too and I know how difficult it is to maintain those healthy boundaries when the other person is trying their best to create an emotional response/ connection. It's such a difficult situation when you are placed in those situations, but you are doing so well and are so strong by doing what you know is best for you and your children and maintaining healthy boundaries with Stephen, even if he has moments when his emotions cause him to push those boundaries. I'm happy to hear Stephen is actively getting help and I do hope that he too will find a place of peace within himself to also find happiness beyond the loss of the relationship.
I know you are going through it right now but I really love seeing you guys together. You can really feel the love and the fact that you guys are good friends as well. Love to see you both doing well!❤
Just going to say this, if he stood by her and supported her during 3+ relapses, she calls herself "crazy" at the time. it's a bit crappy she left him during his hard time. That doesn't seem quite fair. The way she spoke to him and made fun of him was shitty. If I dressed up and tried to look nice for my husband, even if we are separated, and he instead insulted and made fun of me, I'd have some mental health issues also. Got a glimps into their dynamic and I'm not surprised Stephen has self esteem issues.
Also the snide claiming of their house as hers alone and that stuff about building a 'brand'. Isn't that what you do Laura? Both of you make money off being recovering addicts and parents. What does it need to be pointed out for him specifically? I also didn't feel great about how she imitated what he said and his accent.
@@Jemini4228 yeah she was incredibly disrespectful. Not going to lie, she reminds me of a narcissistic ex I once had. The way she treated him in that podcast was deplorable, and I usually love both her and Stephen. But the way she behaved yesterday was a very very bad look.
My niece has autism, she can hear a song, and figure out how to play it on the piano. She’s only 12. And she can sing as well. A few singing lessons and she’d be a beast! One of her other amazing talents is that she can tell you what day of the week any day ever, was…so like I was born July 22, 1984, in less than 1 second she could tell me if it was a Monday or whatever day that year. She’s got a steel trap for birthdays also. She’ll hear someone’s birthday, she’ll always remember it.
She’s standing in her power and he’s waiting for it to revert back to how it used to be. I hope they grow in their individual power and find their way back to each other. Optimistic thinking from a grain of sand in this massive universe.
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Whether they get back together or not, the way they work together to co-parent and still respect each other is so admirable. Good for them. I hope they find what works for them as far as their relationship.
Why and when did they break up? I lost track for a while.
I very much agree. I think that they show a lot of care and concern for one another - which, honestly, is probably more normal in a separation than it's made out to be (drama sells, after all). I do think it's obvious that they are in different places in their own healing and I hope that, in the end, they both find a lot of satisfaction in those journeys. It is clear that they will do the best they can by their children - which is so very important.
Agreed. Here's hoping they find a happier future together for their family.
Steven basically relapsed and had a breakdown and it lead to Laura realizing that there was alot of issues they needed to work individually so she decided to step away to make a better life for the kids and themselves. He is ready to get back together but she still leary which is understandable. That's the gist.
They are definitely not getting back together. You tell she’s just…done
I am only commenting this because I haven't seen anyone else say it yet: Laura, you should be proud of yourself for setting your boundaries and continuing to respect them. You may or may not feel pressure from Stephen about getting back together, but you are doing a hell of a job respecting yourself and your limits (even when it comes to the language you choose when discussing your relationship). That deserves to be celebrated.
Great job Laura for choosing what is best for you and your kids
I was thinking the same thing, she should be proud.
i thinks she is a fake,though. got the house on Steven s back, now she resides there..and not there for him when he needed it. . sad for the kids, but Stephen is a gentleman, deserves someone wayy better. would like to see laura,s bounderies if she had to make her own living,pay rent .
I agree. It’s not easy to set boundaries and keep them, especially with someone so close, and in front of the camera. You’re my hero Laura.
@@ottoottololla4410 ... You do know Laura's channel was the primary money maker by far since Stephen had quit working on films. I can promise you she is making her own living and probably footed the vast majority of the home. And even if she didn't, nobody is obligated to be in a relationship with someone because they paid for something.
This is a woman who is So Done, but has to do what is best for her children. And I respect all the efforts Stephen's putting into improving his life. It's beautiful that you both are able and willing to go through this with us all watching, but I get that it helps pay those mortgages at the same time. Just wow! Relatable and rare, GENUINE content.
She’s turned her heart off to him. When your partner tells you they’re going to kill themselves- it really effects your mind and heart. My ex completed the threat on my birthday. Devastated me. Completely shattered me. She’s protecting her heart. It may seem like she’s being cold to him, but she’s in defense mode. It’s not poor Steven..it’s poor Laura because her heart is broken too.
This!! Thank you! The people attacking her are absolutely off their misogynistic arses!
Yes!!
I lost my fiancé due to an accident that was his own doing, though it may not be similar I know the exact feeling you’re talking about. She’s doing the right thing for her happiness.
Loved this !❤
Wait a second Simply Shannon, flip the scenario. If you went to your husband and said, "I feel awful, I am having suicidal thoughts" What you're saying above is that your husband would be affected in the heart and mind. Then if you did complete the threat as you said. He would be devastated and shattered. So... if a partner, male or female goes to another and asks for help, you should help each other.
The fact you think your partner reaching out for support and help is victimization of you! Is insane to me. Turned off her heart to protect herself, Did her heart not love him and want to love and help him. You think walking away from someone you love because they may break your heart is mad.
Oh honey. I can see your light is dim. Everyone saying how sorry they feel for him, but I recognize your body language, your tone, the look in your eyes. You're tired, heartbroken. Yet you keep pushing through to start with us. You are literally amazing Laura. Don't let the light go out. I let mine go out and now I don't know how to get it back.
Completely agree. I hope she knows better than to feel guilty by him and the public, and I hope she knows better than to feel responsible for his sobriety because its not hers to carry. Steven is a narcissist, she would be very smart to never get back together with him again.
I see that too. I hope they can heal, hopefully together, but either way.
Think she has a cold
Okay don’t pitty her and don’t attack her ex husband. Your situation may not be hers. She actually is trying to heal and keep him in her life as co parent.
You can't even deny the change in Stephen when he's around Laura, he's smiling and laughing and energetic and happy. ☺️
I really hope they get back together (and frickin soon)
He clearly loves her so much. And she sounds done.
But she’s not tho
@@candylover3394 I think she's trying to stay focused. I think she's happy with him in the room, but she doesn't want to give him false hope.
Yeeeah, but she's firm in where she's at and I don't believe she's feeling the deep connection to a future with him.
I just wanted to say, thank you for discussing the lack of male connection for Dad’s, I was recently involved in a deck collapse that left me with 3rd degree burns over 15% of my body, my amazing husband has spent 5 months taking care of my medical needs, working his job and taking over my stay at home mom job, I noticed how run down he was and I felt like he needed some connections which he didn’t have outside of me, he started playing a sport he loved at a local rec center and in just 1 week of making those male connections his mood, energy and love of life has done a 180, there is not enough focus on the Dad’s in our life having that male support and they need it too
I am going through chemo and my husband takes care of me and it’s not always pretty . He does his wing Chung lessons once a wk and he lifts weights every morning . He plays his drums. I’m getting my last chemo treatment today yay!
You’re in the hot seat… it comes police interrogations.
I completely respect Laura's attitude to separate...then possibly divorce. Sometimes things just don't work out...and there's a perfectly good reason for that. Sometimes enough is just enough, and it's time to move on. Good on her for realizing that.
A lot of wife’s a girlfriends don’t let their husbands go out for pints a few times a week
This made me so sad 😢 Stephen is trying so hard to win Laura back but Laura has clearly reached a place that she might not be able to come back from. I’m sure she was telling him over and over again before they separated and he chose not to listen. It looks like she resents him now. It’s so sad though. I hope they both find happiness.
Agree so much. He seems almost giddy and hopeful, and she seems utterly done with him. That’s rough for both of them.
it happens, happened to me, at some point you are done
I was going to say, after watching all their recent videos, she seems done and way happier without him. And he just wants her back
@@meganhale3310 she doesn't seem done with him at all. She seems like she has her guard up and it's coming down slowly.
We know so little about what truly happened with them. What was said and done behind closed doors. The hurtful words that were said.
She has her guard up, rightly so. Living with an addict with a plethora of other mental health issues is hard, fucking hard.
❤️❤️❤️ You both have been so open and vulnerable during this whole time. Thank you for inviting us in.... Even when you didn't have to. We love you, and we're rooting for both of you ❤️
Poor guy, she is done and has left the building. He just hasn’t accepted it yet. Hopefully they both find their new paths to happiness and maintain their parental connections ❤
It could change, she's experiencing the freedom she hasn't had in sooo sooo long. I'm sure she has tried making it work for so long she's just mentally, emotionally and physically tapped out at the moment. She needs to live her life and re find herself. They could possibly get back together a year from now but if they don't, that's ok too.
I would not say “poor guy” just because he is wearing his feelings on his sleeve more than she is. While I agree that Laura seems very done, and is working very hard to walk on eggshells without breaking any at this point, the carton’s already been dumped on the floor. I commend Laura’s focusing on co-parenting and can’t imagine how hard it is for her to work with him/coparent with him, and not simultaneously enable him.
Totally agree Sammee. My heart hurts for him.
Laura is about her money and her looks now she has an attitude now I don’t like her anymore like ewe
I can’t help but feel really sad for Stephen. I feel like he’s such an amazing person- & he’s so great with his children. I know we only get to see a little of your lives but I can’t help but feel like he just hit a rough patch..like we all do when we struggle with mental illness& addiction.
Whether or not he and Laura can work it out..I genuinely hope Stephen works it out with himself & can eventually find someone to share his life with. He has so much love to give- I can tell.
I wish you both the absolute best.
I also applaud Stephen for even doing this- I don’t think I could have done this without suffering consequences mentally. To sit there with my ex who I am still madly in love with would be extremely hard…he’s all smiling but I know he’s hurting during this interview.
It makes me really sad! I totally agree! She’s way to cruel to do this to him. Hopefully her son Alfie finds someone more kind and understanding of his autism symptoms when he marries one day. I’m sure Laura won’t want to see a woman leave her own son for having a melt down and becoming overwhelmed. No one is perfect and she isn’t either. She clearly has that upper hand and poor Stephen.
He’s so in love with her. And she was so condescending during the interview. Makes me sad.
AE totally agree. I'm not so sure he should've done this podcast. Might set him back a bit. I wish the best for Stephen. He's a good man & will find love again, w/ someone who understands him & will stay by his side through thick & thin. Stardom almost always causes marital problems
OK reading the comments on this comment, I'm relieved that I'm not the only one who picked up on this. It's heartbreaking to see Stephen be beyond thrilled to even be in the same room with her and Laura being...idk, giving off kind of an angry, defensive vibe. And I get it because that's the way some people protect themselves after being really hurt. It seems like that guard up that she mentioned makes her look cold and standoffish and in contrast he's glowing with pure joy at being in her presence.
It looks bad but I've been in a similar situation and she needs to do what she needs to do to protect herself until she makes the terrifying step of trusting again. It's sad and hard to see and makes her look very unsympathetic and we all know Laura. She's not cruel and she wouldn't have this behavior if she didn't feel like she needs it right now. His pain is very public, we've only seen snippets of hers.
I can't villainize her as much as I want her to be different with him right now but I did see it too and I'm glad I'm not the only one because I felt like I possibly imagined it.
Trying to be supportive of both and on the side of everyone being truly happy, whatever that looks like in the end.
They’re not divorced tho just separated and figuring things out and Stephan was the one who went and messed it all up
The pressure Stephen is inadvertently putting on Laura is only going to serve to push her away.
If his aim is to get back with her, he's doing everything wrong. On his channel he comes across inconsistent, insecure , unsure and constantly seeking approval. None of which is attractive or convincing that he won't go into the spiral that's brought them to this point.
Agree 100 , he’s so immature. I cant stand him .
Good, she is so controlling. Awful. Needs a British Woman, not a lunatic.
@@welermo1109 Any man wd go insane living with her ffs.
@@Bombabingbong66 oxymoron 🤣🤣🤣
Keeping you, Stephen, Alfie, and Poppy in my prayers! Love seeing you both together! Stephen just lights up chatting with you! ❤️
You can see how much Stephen loves ❤️ his family all over his face!!!
@@StefanieTaylorsVersion, exactly! I pray they can sort out their issues and hopefully get back together again. ❤️
He adores her and their kiddos so much 🥰
That man DEEPLY loves his wife and children. I would give a lot to have a man like Stephen. Ladies would line up.
@@alisharichard8925 indeed. And watch her change her tune once he finds someone else ....
This made me sad. Stephen was so happy to be there and Laura seemed subdued. They seem to be in very different places with the relationship.
agree but she hould tell him, she is done because on his channel he longs for her every day
You can tell she's done
That's usually how it works... And this isn't the first time so she can't force herself as the comments are saying she should.
She wants to be a carpet muncher now...
@@shannongrills7455 to be fair, she seems the type to have her carpet munched.
Steven seems like he is super nervous and using the loud laughing to cover his "on the verge of tears"
He's always had that laugh with her 🥺💕
I think his self confidence is back!
@@OsirisIxchel I think the opposite, he’s in a fake it until you make it myself
He wants it so much and she doesn’t give a f-k , I used to like her but I can’t tolerate her attitude towards him anymore
@@susanthomas4350 he was verbally abusing her for months before this and constantly pushing her away. Then he went and had a huge blowout almost unaliving himself and you want her to get on the ground and beg for him to come back to her?! Nah
Stephen seems so nervous which makes it so cute because it shows how much he still loves her. Laura seems like she's just going through the motions and has her guard up as to not confuse him into thinking they are getting back together.
Cute?
exactly. she just wants to have an easy living.-material ,technical help from Steven.otherwise she is very spiritual and shit
@@christinamccracken1090 yes cute. Because he still loves her...?
They are going to be ok! Together or not… their chemistry is beautiful. Best friends, coparents, a couple… what ever it is. They will be ok! I wish them the best!!! No matter what!
"I want you back" Those words hurt me and hes not even my husband. Steven, you almost took that option away forever. I understand that you are getting better. And coparenting is going as well as it can. But on lauras end, How could she say the same to you, If you were gone permanently. Maybe one day you will get back together. Until then, I hope your actions show what you say... Love to you both❤
The way your energies bounce off each other is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen 😢
Their old videos are a delight 😊
what? No chemistry whatsoever, she acts as if she is his Mum and not Partner
@@katjaxxx7353 🤦🏼♀️
The five things I am grateful for:
1. Being alive and having a roof over my head.
2. Listening to you talk on your channel (your channel has helped me through a lot of rough patches)
3. My dogs
Her saying: my house!
Him saying: our house!
says it all 💔
Yep. I heard that loud and clear.
And all the work he put into that house for his family. Like a slap in the face.
@@thehomeschoolinghomemaker7403 they are separated and for very good reason, right now it's not his house, he has his own place.
@@Bethany0420 didn’t he help build or design it though?
@@hannahdurga3277 I think he did but he has his own place now. Looks like she's trying to set boundaries to protect the kiddos and herself.
It's exactly what Laura admits to, she has a guard up- most likely rightfully so. And Stephen is smitten and high energy because he is a man determined to win his family back. I hope they get through this stronger individually and more in love in the end ❤️
Stephen, you absolutely radiate light when you look at Laura. I haven't seen you this truly animated in a long, long time. Laura your comedic talent shines with Stephen. I'm praying for your family.
Agreeeeeee!
I was literally thinking the same thing!
Agreed
Exactly!!!! I agree!!!!
Unlike her…😢
At first, my heart went out for Stephen because like everyone said, he clearly adores his family and seems to understand what it means to be a good father and a family man.
But listening to Laura talk about his behavior towards her while he was struggling helps put things in perspective. Do I want Laura to just be like “Yes! Come home, Stephen!!”? Absolutely! But at the same time he hurt her so deeply for so long. Because of his struggles, his behaviors made her feel small, diminished, unworthy, and unloved. Stephen is 100% trying, no doubt about that, but he’s not perfect, so right now, I’m sure that anytime he displays behaviors remotely close to his previous behaviors it brings Laura back to all those times she was hurt.
I think in addition to understanding what makes a good father, it’s important for Stephen to understand and learn how to be and what it means to be a good husband to Laura.
Whatever happens, I genuinely wish happiness for the both of them 💕💕
I can't believe so many people are diagnosing their entire relationship based on one podcast. Some saying they are in love, others saying there's nothing there anymore. How ridiculous. We don't know how they feel and have no right saying any of this. Only they know how they feel and I would love to see them back together because they had so much love and compassion for each other but either way I just wish them both the best.
I don't think anyone's crazy, I think it's quite clear that Laura is speaking of their relationship as past tense and Stephen is the only one who doesn't know that they're over. She needs to be direct and tell him so he can mourn the actual loss of their relationship and begin really healing from it. It's kind of....wrong not to tell him.
Stacy hittin' the nail on the head!! We only know what they share publicly, not the full story or even what's truly in their hearts.
@@jmickster029 🤦🏼♀️
This IS what No Fault Divorce has done to THE FAMILY.
THIS IS WAR ON FAMILY
The number ONE unit.
Divide and Conquer.
So SAD
Stephen has repeatedly asked for peoples opinions….he speaks his truth and so will other people. It can’t be helped if what is said is not what he wants to hear. If so….maybe living his separation via a public forum is a mistake. I too wish they both find a peaceful and mutually acceptable answer to this sad situation.
L: - when Stephen comes visit me at my home
S: - when i come home
L: - when he visits me at my home
Man, did i feel his pain....
This podcast was so painfully awkward to watch.
Laura is so over him.
He was so nervous, his laugh is not a joyful laughter full of love and hope...He might still love her, i give you that, but it would be better for him to build his life elsewhere, cause Laura won't take him back.
I wish them both lots of good energy and harmony and i hope they find their strength and joy.
They have turned their lives into a soap opera.
As someone who has been hurt by her husband over and over and keeps taking him back, your body language feels very relatable to me. Protecting you and your kids well being is instinctual and you shouldn't question your instincts to do whatever you need to do. Every time I separated from my husband, I floated back on his every promise and didn't wait to actually see him prove anything. I regret that almost every day. The pain of being hurt again was almost unbearable.
Was your partner on the autistic spectrum ? Mine is , so I’m curious . I’m ADHD and the dynamic is quite different than , neurotypical couples. I’m sorry that you had such a difficult time . I don’t feel sorry for Stephen here . I think that he’s definitely expressing adoration ( who can blame him ) I think that their willingness to do this, speaks volumes, regarding how much they actually do care about each other. I actually see two people who have had a bloody hard year / lockdown . That are doing there very best to heal . Anyways sending you and them blessings 🙏
That was way too niche. I thought it was bullying. Sitting there talking About the guest as a ''third person." SHe oughta go get couselling TOO and redo the steps especially the audit. Her addiction needs checking - where does acting END - whenis OFF STAGE?
it's hard. we want to believe those promises.
@@lovedaybebe5881 to answer your question he is not on the spectrum
Yet here she is exploiting him as honestly who else would go on her podcast? Most people have no idea who she is! She’s far to big for her boots. Stop trying to make Stephen out to be the bad guy. He has a mental illness. Laura is not perfect. If anything she comes across the narcissist. Obsessed with ‘being famous’ with very little talent. I’m not surprised Stephen became seriously depressed. She uses Stephen for content all the time. She has nothing to give without him.
We all need to remember the last 6-12 months we’re hard on Laura. Does she want to go through that again? I think she still loves Stephen but has a lot to work through. Stephen wants things to go back to normal. Laura’s normal changed. Her guard is up. His isn’t.
I listened to the podcast, cried during that 20 something second deafening pause right along with both of you. Stephen take it day by day, stay present, trust has been broken, but the love for you from Laura is there... don't push, heal.. I'm so proud of both of you. I'm nobody, but I'm invested, lol. You 2 are 2 of my fave people and help me daily to stay focused, present and SOBER!!
Same here and you worded that 💯 perfectly I love them and they do the same for my recovery as well
I think they both still have a lot of healing. 10yrs together and recovering addiction then a tragedy makes you change your paths. It doesn't mean they won't realign. I think they are best friends deep inside and this is just hard. It would be hard for anyone in private or public. I wish them both well wherever they land.
Just remember, someone loving you and wanting to be with you and his family is not always a codependent thing.
A marriage is supposed to be codependent.
I agree also.
yes but it can lead to dependence since someone who loves you will do anything with you and it makes it easy to depend on them. Which is can lead to codependency. Just wanted to add my view point since I am trying to get out of my codependency, I have kids and I'm autistic (currently being diagnosed). I think its ok to be cautious and to explore freedoms and the thrill that it gives.
Exactly!
Yes it is sopose to be codependent that’s the entire point but in a healthy way.
I was so overwhemled when I watched this - almost as if I was sitting across from my ex-husband. There is a tangible feeling here - you can see it in your eyes, in your smile, that guarded, nervous, "don't come too close to my heart please" feeling. I am so sorry. Sometimes, there are things you don't have to say, because we know. There is a massive community of women who KNOW without words, those feelings, that anxiety, that fear - we stand together in silence I feel, because really, to force our truth into the world is futile. We know it. We lived it. We survived it. And we are here xx
I am so glad that Steven seems to be doing better. I'm glad that Laura is not giving in to his wanting to get back together. The work they are both doing on themselves is too important. If they are meant to come back together they will when the time is right.
Look how happy Stephen is when he is with you! I hope you don't give up on him...
Laura, it’s very brave for you and Stephen to sit and do this podcast. I’m gonna hop over to listen in full. It’s hard for people for whom this is so new and raw to do. ❤
I just love the both of you, separately and together. The hopeless romantic in me wants you and Stephen to work through this and get back together, you have beautiful synergy together. The realist in me knows that I haven't walked in either of your shoes and only the two of you know what's best for each of you. I pray for your wellness, your healing, and your peace, always. Thank you to both you and Stephen for sharing your vulnerability with us. I will try to find the podcast on spotify to listen to the rest. Oh, and I did all the things! ♡
Stephen is adorable. How wonderful that he has taken so much effort to work on himself and also to impress you. I love this!! I wish there were more men like him! Great interview Laura! ❤️
My husband went crazy 7 years ago and had a midlife crisis. He cheated on me. But we decided to give it another go. It was hard at first. But he's put in the effort. Our relationship now is stronger then its ever been. It doesn't happen for everyone though. It's got to be give and take and work on both parties part. I wish you both well. 💕
I actually love y’all together but I’m obsessed with this self discovery journey you’re on! I don’t blame you at all for wanting to continue to grow rather than risk getting stuck in the same cycle again. Hope whatever happens, y’all both keep pushing yourselves as individuals.
I have to say I really am amazed that the two of you are still there for each other and helping one another through this difficult time. I have worked in a psychiatric hospital for years, and can only count on one hand how many patients have the support that Stephen is getting. You are such a bright and amazing human for doing this. I wish my patients had more support from their children's other parents. Many don't have it, and sadly we hear that they lost their battle. Thank you for standing by him, I know how truly hard it is for you both.
The way Laura talks to Stephen makes me feel really sad. I don’t even know why. I guess I sense pain as an empath and I’m just so sad for the situation. I hope they get a happy ending!
Laura is getting her happy ending. She has left her husband and has all the power.
I swear I could've recorded these. My husband and I went thru the exact same thing. Codependency. Mental health issues. Both of us completely lost ourselves. Separated 6 mos refocused on ourselves, our faith & our mental health. Our marriage & family life has never been better.
Yay, I'm so glad for you! Hope the same happens for them. They are funnier together.
Like: Burns & Allen, Wilma & Fred, martin & lewis, Abbott & Costello 😊
Stephen is SO happy with his family! Laura makes him laugh and I see it more now! He lights up! He’s himself - he’s excited, he’s happy. I’m not saying “get back together“ but I’m SO happy they’re such a good team when together ❤
This episode shows EXACTLY how important mental health really is and how important it is to address it. Sending positive vibes for you BOTH 💜
Stephen adores Laura he is like a giggly teenager, it is adorable and so cute.
It is cute but... I imagine that's part of the problem. What grown woman wants to be married to a teenager? He is very sweet but when he talks about what he misses, it is about him. He misses the way she made him feel. There was nothing specifically about her as a person. I imagine she wants an equal partner, not someone who is dependent on her for their everything. He can be sweet but still would not be a good partner until he can take responsibility for himself & his own well-being. Just my opinion.
I'd rather be married to somebody that adores me then somebody that cheats on me and there's a lot more of those kind of people out there in the field of looking for a new partner than there are people that really deserve one like Steven.
Steven seems to have that nervous laugh that reminds me of me when I’m around a loved one has been emotionally distant with me and I’m trying to reconcile 😢
Yes me too.. its hard seeing it on a screen and realising ..'sounds and looks just like me '
@@helenh20mo yea I know right. It feels awkward and I wish so bad things would be back to normal
Wow, I found this to be very positive, respectful, and grown-up. I see a lot of maturity in both of you. You both have my utmost respect for being so very sensible as both parents to two beautiful children
Laura is an extremely strong woman. She’s very driven and full of love. That love for her family is driving her. I’m 55, and have a 35 year old special needs son who is high functioning. However at this stage of our lives I lean a lot on my husband because you do get mentally exhausted which has become physically exhausting. Every step of my sons life has been getting the right help and making sure he has his best life. At 55 I’ve learned I have to step back more for self care. He’s still my sunshine everyday and always will be. But I’m extremely lucky our 37 year marriage is still strong and I’ve got someone to help 100% and lean on. Laura great job! Make sure you have a core of people to lean on. God bless
Loving the light hearted humour in this guys! Together or not you guys have an inimitable chemistry together - so no matter what don’t stop making content.
I feel like some people don't understand that just because someone loves you, doesn't mean you have to love them back. They can treat you the best, they may not be at all a bad person, but not right for you. Basically, don't force a relationship to happen for anyone. Do what you feel is right.
This right here 👆 ...I am going through this
It is so interesting watching the two of you, strangers as of right now, you are both evolving independently and its wonderful to see but the love in your eyes for each other wether romantic or not is evident. Keep moving forward to better yourselves and focus on what’s important to each of you, no matter the outcome.
You can just tell you are both meant to be together. Your energies just compliment so well 😢 hoping for the best for you both ❤
Trust is so hard to rebuild once it’s gone or compromised. Being guarded and careful is understandable. There’s so much truth in “time will tell.”
Stephen’s laugh is pretty infectious. It made laugh quite a few times. Thoughts and well wishes are with you both. ❤️
I'm not a committed watcher but I've checked in on yall for several years. I'm also going through a lot so I decided to sit and watch this whole thing. I'm glad I watched. So bittersweet and real
I LOVED THIS!!!! You guys are truly growing individually and together. Continued love, hugs, and prayers.
That was a great conversation. I am rooting for you both in whatever you do. Thank you for sharing. And Laura, i am very happy & proud of you being sober for 11 years😊
First time i found out about you was a FB video; you were so pretty but so goofy & funny. I never saw a pretty woman act that way around her partner & not be embarrassed. I could never be myself w/my exhusband, nor did we hang out w/other couples like that. I saw Stephen get more involved in your videos, & y'all became my favorite couple. I learned a lot from y'all. I was shocked that y'all survived addictions and were able to be so confident and vulnerable. I really did learn a lot from y'all. So grateful for y'all. Partnership. Teamwork. Then i saw y'all were separated. This is funny stupid, but it hit me harder than anything I've been through, including my divorce, which hurt like hell. I guess y'all already have the friendship and communication going, and the best co parentingI've ever seen, but i hope that y'all can work it out, slowly i guess, but eventually. I wish y'all were characters in a novel that has a happy ending. I'm proud of y'all either way.
Thank you for sharing…. I’m finding life difficult at the moment… many negative thoughts…. I’m totally going to think of 5 things daily that I’m grateful for. Thanks again, keep on, keeping on!! 😊 xxx
This is great, Steven and Laura. Seriously, there is a sense in which you two have made a pact to guide two beautiful children into the world and ultimately to self sufficiency. There is a sense that you have been together and through times together that it's too late to turn back. I am happy to see that you are supporting each other in this phase of growth. It's not like there will not be others, because life does go on. I guess what I am saying is that you care about each other such that you are able to allow each other the space to grow separately. Anyway, that's my take Laura. Blessings to you both. Love Greg
The togetherness you crave must be clarified, not familiar based, not identity based… the personal connection, the intimate bond with the person 😍
So, so, so refreshing!
I’m so happy that both of you could get to this place. Such rich history here. Thank you both so much for sharing. I feel like this gives couples hope who also have struggles.
It feels like Laura was mocking him throughout this entire video... Stephen, I absolutely LOVE that you are so open minded and are seeking TRUTH and are not just believing things because you're TOLD TO! This video made me like Stephen even MORE! I hope Laura let's her guard down and allows him back in emotionally and physically.
This is exactly how I felt too. Love that he is doing his own research, and it’s too bad he’s getting mocked about it.
Right off the bat when he said "a hot seat is someone is sitting somewhere hot" she said "that's so autistic of you to say that" really made me feel weird. He's been so open about his mental health which is great! But to make fun of is not cool. I don't know their relationship so I won't judge. Just thought it was weird.
She is horrible! It was never a marriage! Through SICKNESS AND HEALTH
@@mandys0088 honestly, she has lost me as a fan. She reminded me throughout the entire movie of snippets of my narcissistic ex.
I will be unfollowing her. I have no idea what happened personally with them, but her colors are showing.
@@MrsYolandicook it gives weird vibes. I feel bad and wish Stephen had more support.
I am praying for you both - I hope you both find the happiness that you both deserve ❤ I care about you both
This was a very reasonable conversation. The way the comments on Facebook were I would've thought she spent the whole video talking down to him
I'm glad to see y'all creating together again. I definitely see a lot of progress between you two. I hope for the best between yall and your family.
I just love how honestly y’all talk about Alfie. The whole upspeak thing was hilarious
You two have been though so much. I hope you can come through this stronger than ever ❤
I’m just gonna say, love the manscara Steven. Love you both, and y’all aren’t alone, keep working…keep loving…find joy again. ❤
I think his eyebrows and facial hair looks great. I don't know what the heck Laura was talking about.
I honestly feel so much for this man. The strength to be able to sit there and do this would of taken every fibre of his being. I honestly wish them peace in this journey. They don’t need people throwing the two cents in. Unless they ask for your opinion it’s not needed. Love and strength to you both ❤
Feel for him? I feel for her . To put up with him . He lost her . And him talking about her and make videos mentioning her thats messed up . He’s on drugs she has all the right to not want him. He can’t stay sober
@@welermo1109 may you never deal with any type of addictions. May you never make any mistakes. May your vision never be clouded and your choices never be wrong. Mighty big and compassionate yo sit behind your screen pointing your finger and judging. At the end of the day whatever mistakes his made no one can make him feel any worse then him not being able to be with his kids. Put them to bed and wake up with them.
Addiction is a horrible thing. Don’t judge someone when you haven’t lived their life. May you find peace in your life that stops you from being such a judgmental keyboard warrior ✌🏼
I’m so glad that Stephen is working on himself! That makes me so happy and I really hope he continues to do so because he looks wonderful! I understand how hard a breakup can be, at the moment it probably seems so so difficult to understand and accept that you and Laura are no longer together, but trust me when I say, it gets BETTER. That heartache gets better. No matter what the outcome I wish you and your family ALL the absolute best! Hang in there Stephen everything will be ok.
You honestly are stronger than you know. Having the words to express yourselves is huge. Somehow listening makes us want the best for you. Honestly. ❤
The upspeak bit 😂 I DIE when you guys talk about it and exaggerate it and give like at least 3 more examples than we need. I die every time. 😂😂😂 love you guys!
I would never speak about my own autistic child in this way - appalling
I do think your dynamic when you are together makes for the strongest content. Keep taking it day by day, but the fact that you haven’t run out of things to say to each other is something special.
I love that their talking together openly Stephen has really been doing a great job working on himself I pray you'll get back together ❤️
They've BEEN talking together openly.
I've been married twice once for 4 years and once for seven and both of them ended in a divorce because of their choice and I really wish that I would have had a husband carrying as Steven.
Trade Joe Rogan in for Elon musk please
Yes! Seeing them encourage each other's independent growth is exactly what love is supposed to look like.
I applaud you both. Ive been in similar shoes, Laura. Its hard. Seriously hard. Coparenting is difficult, coparenting like Laura is doing is even MORE difficult. Good job, momma
No one is perfect and sometimes a little space is what you need to realize what you had. I feel like you guys are meant to be and hope it works out 💓
Yes, for your sake, I hope they get back together officially. Because you need it so badly. Because it's about you.
Fingers crossed... for them, cuz it makes no difference to me personally.
I’m proud of both of you guys for putting in the work of self love, and also managing to co-parent despite being separated. ❤❤❤
I love seeing you 2 work together ❤️
Both of these people have been my safe space for years, and it’s truly heartbreaking to see them not all bubbly and happy together, but they must do what’s best for not only them as people but for their wonderful children, i hope for the best for them and their kiddos, love your family so much!!
I got the impression that Laura didn’t want to do this at all… maybe I’m wrong?
no, she is very condescending I am sorry but it is awful
@@katjaxxx7353 hard to watch, she talks to him like he’s stupid or something…I dunno what this interview was all about but I’m a little baffled by the “wow you guys have such great chemistry” comments because Laura was definitely cold in this one.
You NEVER stop picking your kiddies up Laura. It's just the 'way' you pick them up that changes... ❤️❤️
I feel bad for Steven for some reason . He’s clearly head over hills . Overly animated , trying to get through the interview. Of course I don’t live with them and don’t know all of the dynamics of the relationship. So don’t come for me a get that the videos they both share are just a snippet of real life .
Totally agree
I agree with youuuuuu!!!
He's got a porn addiction...
You feel bad for him because Laura is making fun of him and being low key annoyed with him. She should really take him back. He’s a sweet man, who just had a troubled issue, and he’s working on himself. It’s not like he beat her. Shit
@@Ladybird1967 yikes... if you standard is that someone didn't beat you so you should take him back then I just feel sad for you.
Your strength in maintaining boundaries is amazing ❤️
Love you guys and I really hope you guys don't give up on each other.
Congrats on 11 years, Laura!!!
So proud of you for keeping it up 🥳🎉🎊
… _5 things I’m thankful for:_ …
1️⃣ my 7+ years of sobriety from hard drugs, cigarettes, & alcohol 😅
2️⃣ having my own studio apt to retreat to & feel safe in ❤
3️⃣ watching TH-cam videos from absolute strangers on the internet… even tho I’m very antisocial rn & rarely go outdoors, it’s lovely to still feel somewhat connected to other humans who understand me 🥲
4️⃣ being able to pay my electric/WiFi bills, so I can get lost playing Animal Crossing: New Horizons on my Switch 🎮
5️⃣ my family. My 3 siblings, 2 nephews, & 3 cats 💞🐈🐈⬛🐈💞
Beautiful 🥰
Steven reacting to the horror of microblading is hilarious 😂
The mess people go through for fashion Lmao
(I also do ridiculous things, that lmao is at the beauty industry not at specific people)
Kinda telling that he had no idea of the procedure.
So proud of you for continuing to grow into your womanhood and do what’s best for YOU and your children 🫶🏼
Great interview! I'd love to see you interview Tiffany Jenkins from Juggling the Jenkins. She is really funny and also battled addiction and wrote a book about it. Her sober Anniversary is this month!
I. ADORE. HER. 💜
I feel like they have collabed before?! But they definitely are friendly! On social & whatever...
I'd love for Tiffany to be on, too! ♥
Yessssszzz!
It’s actually fantastic to see you two getting along so well. I will continue to pray for both of you and the kids. I’m grateful for your family…
Feel sorry for Stephen, he really loves Laura, but she doesn't want it anymore 😢 she is trying to tell him in a really kind way. Love you both and hope you both find peace and happiness xx
I think she is defo guarded and needs more time but hoping they will get back together :( ❤
I love how honest you both are. I'm In a similar situation. My partner of 8yrs (known him and was childhood neighbors from when I was 7) both struggled with addiction. Got clean for couple years then relapsed earlier this year. Finally had to seperate and I went into treatment. (Will have 5 months clean again on the 12th) I just moved into my own place 3hrs away. And dealing with codependency. This is the first time I've been on my own since I was 20. Only now I have my 2 daughters with me. But without them I don't know how I'd be handling things as they are atm. We are both very hopeful things will work out but right now just working on ourselves (separately) it's so hard but also feels rewarding at the same time. It's definitely about sticking to boundaries, but like I said I'm still hopeful it will work out for us down the road. All the best to you and Steven! And side note to Steven. Congrats on working the 90x90. That's huge! I'm currently working the program but only on step 4 and been on it for awhile now. Keep it up!
you two look cute! Stephen laughs like a high school boy talking to his crush lol
If 1 time in your life you're fortunate enough to connect with someone on this level.. you are heads above the rest of us.
This is hard to watch! I adore you both!
Something is just off about this. 😒
(I couldn’t watch past her throwing him under the bus about “conspiracy theories”) She knows what’s happening here. I don’t find it cute at all.
Laura,
I commend you for doing this interview. I have been there too and I know how difficult it is to maintain those healthy boundaries when the other person is trying their best to create an emotional response/ connection. It's such a difficult situation when you are placed in those situations, but you are doing so well and are so strong by doing what you know is best for you and your children and maintaining healthy boundaries with Stephen, even if he has moments when his emotions cause him to push those boundaries. I'm happy to hear Stephen is actively getting help and I do hope that he too will find a place of peace within himself to also find happiness beyond the loss of the relationship.
I know you are going through it right now but I really love seeing you guys together. You can really feel the love and the fact that you guys are good friends as well. Love to see you both doing well!❤
Sometimes it’s ok to say “we can be good friends” some people just can’t go back to each other
Just going to say this, if he stood by her and supported her during 3+ relapses, she calls herself "crazy" at the time. it's a bit crappy she left him during his hard time. That doesn't seem quite fair.
The way she spoke to him and made fun of him was shitty. If I dressed up and tried to look nice for my husband, even if we are separated, and he instead insulted and made fun of me, I'd have some mental health issues also. Got a glimps into their dynamic and I'm not surprised Stephen has self esteem issues.
Also the snide claiming of their house as hers alone and that stuff about building a 'brand'. Isn't that what you do Laura? Both of you make money off being recovering addicts and parents. What does it need to be pointed out for him specifically? I also didn't feel great about how she imitated what he said and his accent.
@@Jemini4228 yeah she was incredibly disrespectful. Not going to lie, she reminds me of a narcissistic ex I once had. The way she treated him in that podcast was deplorable, and I usually love both her and Stephen. But the way she behaved yesterday was a very very bad look.
Y’all are so good together❣️ I hope y’all grow stronger and grow back together ❤😊
My niece has autism, she can hear a song, and figure out how to play it on the piano. She’s only 12. And she can sing as well. A few singing lessons and she’d be a beast! One of her other amazing talents is that she can tell you what day of the week any day ever, was…so like I was born July 22, 1984, in less than 1 second she could tell me if it was a Monday or whatever day that year. She’s got a steel trap for birthdays also. She’ll hear someone’s birthday, she’ll always remember it.
She’s standing in her power and he’s waiting for it to revert back to how it used to be. I hope they grow in their individual power and find their way back to each other. Optimistic thinking from a grain of sand in this massive universe.