AN UNBELIEVABLE SIGHT MESSERSCHMITT ME262 LANDS AT RAF CONINGSBY WITH P-51 & SPITFIRE FROM RIAT 2023
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2023
- An unbelievable moment as a Messerschmitt Me262 lands at RAF Coningsby. The flight, callsign 'Merlin' consisted of various vintage aircraft that departed RAF Fairford for RIAT 2023. After the Me262, a P-51 Mustang and a Rolls Royce Spitfire completed the flight. They are expected to be at Coningsby for the next few days.
The Messerschmitt Me 262, nicknamed Schwalbe (German: "Swallow") in fighter versions, or Sturmvogel (German: "Storm Bird") in fighter-bomber versions, is a fighter aircraft and fighter-bomber that was designed and produced by the German aircraft manufacturer Messerschmitt. It was the world's first operational jet-powered fighter aircraft.
The design of what would become the Me 262 started in April 1939, before the Second World War. It made its maiden flight on 18 April 1941 with a piston engine, and its first jet-powered flight on 18 July 1942. Progress was delayed by problems with engines, metallurgy and interference from politics. Some wanted the Me 262 to be a ground-attack/bomber aircraft rather than a defensive interceptor, thus necessitating a redesign. The aircraft became operational with the Luftwaffe in mid-1944. The Me 262 was faster and more heavily armed than any Allied fighter, including the British jet-powered Gloster Meteor, which was introduced in 1944. The Allies countered by attacking the aircraft on the ground and during takeoff and landing.
As one of the most advanced Second World War combat aircraft, the Me 262 operated as a light bomber, reconnaissance, and experimental night fighter. The Me 262 proved to be an effective dogfighter against Allied fighters - German pilots claimed 542 Allied aircraft shot down, although higher claims have sometimes been made. The aircraft had reliability problems because of strategic materials shortages and design compromises with its Junkers Jumo 004 axial-flow turbojet engines. Late-war Allied attacks on fuel supplies also reduced the aircraft's effectiveness. Armament production within Germany was focused on more easily manufactured aircraft. Ultimately, the Me 262 had little effect on the course of the war because of its late introduction and the small numbers that entered service.
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This would just be unimaginable 80 years ago. It's great what peace can do.
Wow, that really is unbelievable. Never thought there would be an airworthy Me262, never mind one landing at Coningsby! Fabulous footage 😊
It is a replica built from original plans, not original airframe.
@@MartyBecker Ah, yes, caught me out there! Not been paying enough attention to the preservation scene for a while. Trouble is there's been so many miraculous restorations like Spit N3200 that it seems like anything is possible these days!
@@ScreamingLordStokes Even though it is not original, seeing that silhouette flying in the sky is awesome.
There are 3 currently flying and an original almost completed.
@@andrewwaller5913 Thank you. After looking into the ME 262 Project it certainly seems like the team went to extraordinary lengths to make the replicas as authentic as possible, even building the new GE engines into original Jumo castings.
the 262 is such a beautiful machine.
Awesome seeing a actual ME262 in flight. Only seen them in museums . Thanks !
It is a replica.
@@jamielee9350 Yes we know, very convincing.
You’re welcome
Amazing footage Nikos & Ted! 👏🏻 Seeing the ME262 fly is very special indeed👍
Oiii oiii thanks man 🤙🏼
Oooh yeah! I've seen this Me 262 in the air before, but not having expected to see one flying in my lifetime, I remember how lucky I felt when I saw it for the first time. And it makes me feel really happy that so many people could now experience the same!
Oiii oiiii this was awesome to see
After the Messerschmidt has landed, the Spitfire and Mustang look sooo old-fashioned when they come in.
Awesome planes !
Real treat to see these planes flying. How excited was Ted?. Thanks to all at Tcs for this.
Oiii oiii thank you so much for your comment. Ooohh yeah
Three iconic planes, what a sight.
*Beautiful ME262 ❤*
I never thought I would see one fly in the modern day. Well done to all!
I watched a few hours of the RIAT with another stream Great show. Red Arrows, UAE pilots. Nice to see the ME262 flight and landing. Thanks
My wife’s uncle saw a 262 in 1945.
He said it came screaming over them toward Allied lines with 2 Spitfires in hot pursuit.
The German turned toward his lines and the Spitfires turned inside of him and shot him down.
Those beautiful landings show mad respect for everyone who has touched these machines or admired them from a distance.
Never get tired of hearing the back fire pops when the pistons go to idle…. Beautiful
This is apparently the rarest formation in the world
Absolutely right
@@TedConingsby i hope the shwalbe will be there next year
Thanks Nikos, fantastic to see this formation, especially the ME262! This channel just keeps getting better and better!
Couldn’t believe this was happening
Nikos that is some fantastic camera work, berrets off to you sir. Planes were pretty spectacular as well.😀
Oiii oiii Graham thank you so much
MAGNIFICENT. 👍🏻🏴
A busy day for you Ted.
Very well done for staying with the stream today in some nasty weather conditions.
Very rare Warbirds arriving at Coningsby.
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Oiii oiii Gazza 🤙🏼 thank you so much. The weather was emotional but stood out ground to this extremely rare aircraft. Ooohh yeah
Wow Ted, I never thought we'd ever see the day.
I know right
So good to see, thanks Ted.👍👍👍
Ooohh yeah
Excellent filming. Great to hear the skylarks as well!
Oi oi!!! Saw these fantastic machines leave Fairford today and that must have been a real bonus having them arrive at Ted HQ...... BTW the lakenheath F35's did an outrageous quick climb away from Fairford today, easily the best exit if the day..... ohhhh yeahhhhhh!!!
Beautiful!
Ooohh yeah
I didn't know that there were any ME262s still flying. Learn something new every day...
its a modern replica with new better engines (but still looks amazing)
Its a new 262....their are no 1940s 262 flying. Its been built off original plans...except with learjet engine and new avionics.
85 years old technology. Amazing
Great camera work. Thanks for posting. Definitely the best video that I have ever seen of those three planes flying.
Thank you so much
Another great stream bringing coverage into our homes we wouldnt normaly get to see. Massive thanks Nikos and team.
Thanks Garry
Wow, thanks for posting
No problem and glad you enjoyed 🤙🏼
Grand indeed. Rare opportunity to witness here. One minute the modern fighter aircraft takes off, the next minute one of the golden oldies lands! Another historic stream Ted, sir. Thank you.
Oiii oiii Margo 🤙🏼 amazing, like a Time Machine
Another fantastic video! If only I didn't have work today I'd have been there. Was at Coningsby on Saturday.
Very cool! Wish my Grandpa was alive to see the Spitfire 🫡🇨🇦
What a pleasure.. thank you.
You’re welcome
wow, what a sight. they didn't see these in the air together during the war... stunning
Halo on contray the Mustangs were credited with destroying 120 of the Me262's P47 Got 25 and a B17 tail gunner got 2 and the Brits managed to find 10 !!! !
Me 262, the most beautiful airplane ever made
What a sight!
Amazing sight. The Spitfire and P51 represent the best of and end of an era. The ME262 was first of its type the future.
The 262 seems to handle very sweetly on landing. What a rare sight!
Me 262 ohhh yeahhh!
Ooohhh yeah
How ya doin Ted and Nick. Drop dead gorgeous, rare and complete privilege for those 3 WW2 Fighters to be landing in UK at a famous active airbase.
P51 Mustang & our own Spitfire superb and just God's of the sky. That ME262 looked mean as it came into land. Can move too. Channel just gets better and better. Respect! We are lucky and honoured to have em at Coningsby an iconic Airbase but even better you filmed them. History right there. Yum yum yum. Sound Cooorrrrr! ❤.
Can they stay forever? 😅😢😮
Oiii oiii Daniel 🤙🏼 thank you so much. We are well. How are you? This was a great day.
Have a great weekend 🤙🏼
@TedConingsby Good 👍 thanks for Asking. Had my 1st experience of Lakenheath on Thursday 20th stopped briefly whilst drinking a coffee. Low and behold 2 x F35 Take offs and 1x F15 take off plus 2 low approaches. How loud are they Ted & Nikos? Wow wow wow.. is all I can say. Live is a whole different ball game. Thank so much for introducing me to this.
🤣❤️ The child in me
It's exciting to see a 262 in flight. ❤
It was exciting to see this
@@TedConingsby I believe that the SAAF also has a 262. Unfortunately it's not airworthy.
Very nice video, great camera work!!!
Thank you very much
Do not recall ever seeing a 262 in flight before, so that was something special. Thanks very much. Shame about the jet noise drowning out the sound of the Mustang coming in to land but it was still an awesome sight. Always love a Spit. Never tire of it. Thanks for that 😍😁
It's a replica..
You have got to remember RAF Conningsby is an operational fighter airfield. We stayed at Tattershall Castle lakes holiday park six weeks ago and were treated to Typhoons taking off at ten in the morning! Very nice wake up call after a heavy night😅😅
Ooohh yeah
Jet noise from the 262, to see one landing is a unique experience. The Mustang you can see any day.
The 262 must be one of the best looking aircraft produced....... it must have scared the life out of bomber crews the first time they saw it in the skies over the Reich....
This is amazing. Thanks for posting. Subbed.
Thank you so much
Well you have out done yourself today Nikos, one drowned teddy, two drowned people's stunning incoming of the Messerschmitt ME262 very nice work many thanks
Oiii oiii thank you and you were there with us for them all in formation oohhhh yeah
The P-51 was a game changer, so versatile 💪🏼🇺🇸
Messerschmidt 262 BEAUTIFUL!
Dang, I çould have gone !!
Never thought I'd see a ME262, thank you for the video.
It was today!
LOL, listen to the Skylark...
great stuff
If it hadn't of been for the brave pilots of thr RAF during the battle of Britian the Me262 would have been calling the likes on Coningsby home!
First time iv seen an ME 262.
This replica and several others are flying for more than 10 years, there are loads of videos in YT.
Great to the ME262 in the air. Seeing one of the first and the latest combat jets shows how far combat aircraft have changed over time. Now imagine the ME262 against a Typhoon would be a bit of a miss match but would be great to see.
Are we talking jet Typhoon jet or piston-engined Typhoon?
Pilots who flew the 262 regarded the Tempest as their most dangerous opponent, being very fast and well-armed. The Tempest could out-accelerate a 262 because the jet engines took time to spool-up. The 262 had a higher top speed, but in every other regard the Tempest could kick the sheet out of a 262. Historians have examined the kill ratios of fighters of that era. The 262 had a kills to losses ratio of 1.5 : 1, but the Tempest had a kills to losses ratio of 7 : 1.
@@raypurchase801 Typhoon FGR4 which would be interesting but bit of a miss match with the Typhoon and it's weapon package
@@raypurchase801 The 262 had a kill ratio of 5:1. The Tempest was quite fast at low altitudes, but no good at normal combat heights. Btw, Willi Reschke killed Tempests in his Ta152 H-1 out turning them at 150 feet, caught trying to shoot up trains, documented.
@@drstrangelove4998 If German victory claims were truthful, they would've won the war.
There's a big difference between claimed kills and recorded losses.
The funniest kill claims were made by gunners on B17s.
@@raypurchase801 All is BS because the P51 Mustangs were credited with 120 destroyed and the P47's got 25 Brits total all planed had 10 hell even a B17 tail gunner got 2 , they were not the super weapon hoped for
Great video
Thank you
Magnificent, but what a shame for the poor Skylark in the background noise trying to drown out these superstars!
Smashing
262 is so Star Wars!
Ey up Ted, brilliant as always to see a Spitfire especially one with a Griffon ( is it a Mk 18?) and a Mustang but what a rare privilege to see a Messerschmitt 262, thanks for the video 👍🏻
Oii oiii Mick 🤙🏼 glad you enjoyed the video ooohhh yeah. The Spitfire is a Mk 19, no idea if there was much difference but you are absolutely right that it has a Griffon engine
hopefully the Me262 will come southport airshow on 9th and 10th september
Seeing a ME-262 must have been beautiful if you were German and scary if you were British or American and you were flying a bomber as it whizzed past you...
Pity there is no interview with the Me 262 pilot.
"The first time I saw an ME-262, I shot it down" Chuck Yeager.
Always great to see classic warbirds in flight and that 262 is simply amazing. I cant imagine there are many operational ones left
Think this is the only example? Yes it is a replica built carefully by the museum in 🇩🇪
+@KMN-bg3yu A special project in the US was created to construct five new Me-262s for customers. They were completed and test flown in the US. The Messerschmitt Museum purchased the second example for the museum in Germany
@@FiveCentsPlease 👍
Love the lark unimpressed by all the noise.
The Me262 shows how undeniably brilliant German ingenuity was.
From one Ted to another, I enjoyed the show mate ;~) With the way the engines are on the 262 it looks like it might be dicey to land, the way it has to come in flatish like that.
Oii oiii Glad you enjoyed the show 🤙🏼
Came here to watch the 262 touchdown 😬😭
If RAF Fighter Command hadn't won the day, seeing ME-262 & ME-109 land in England was a very likely scenario.
Spectacular :D :D :D
I would've loved to have seen an accurate speed comparison between the 3 contenders.
A comparative speed comparison would be difficult. Capt Eric Brown tested 262s at RAE Farnborough and found it 125mph faster than the fastest allied prop fighter, I think the mk 18 Griffin engined Spit.
To make the test fully accurate you would have to set one of the 262 engines on fire.
Achtung Teddy!!
OOOOHHHH That PACKARD Merlin in the P51 D Mustang has a GROWL to it !!!!
I wonder why the cameraman zoomed out just at the moment it landed
The Me262 replica offers the rare authentic sound of a 1960s early Learjet with its noisy pure turbojet engines.
I enjoyed seeing that, although I'm glad that it's not something we saw in the War. I like the Junkers Trimotor as a civilian plane, but years ago, when D-AQUI the Junkers Trimotor flew over Southsea, I was glad we didn't hear this type over Britain in the War. I wonder though, if it had BMW engines, or if it had Pratt and Whitney ones?
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P51 buzzed over southend earlier
Btw Ted was it tipping down when the Me 262 was landing ? Sounded like it 🤔
Yes. It was emotional 🌧️
Thought the Me engines had an on wing life of about 30 seconds. Just learned that this is a replica with modern engines, so , hopefully, will be a regular on the display circuit.
I would like to know what engines the 262 is useing the old jumos from 40's can't be any use at this date ! Great to see it flying sutch a historic aircraft !
Learjet engines...ge i think.
@@andgate2000 GE CJ610 engines.
Even though the Me 262 is awesome, the Merlin engine sounds incredible.
Is that Spitfire a MK22 or MK24? So good to see the ME262 flying!!!!
Rolls Royce Spitfire is a Mk19
@@TedConingsby Beautiful. Thank you!!!!
I'm glad that a 262 is still airworthy.
Still? It's a modern replica.
@@randomnickify Is it? Fair enough.
Fantastic landings! And although the 262 was a good looking aircraft nothing beats the Spitfire ... or the Mozzie!! The 51 is a very close second. The Merlin in full revs is and always will be prime ear candy.
Just imagining the first time an Allied pilot saw those MEs in the sky - the pucker factor. It must've been chilling knowing the rules just changed and you now had a knife in a gun fight. 👀
Keeping up with technology is always a factor, however, research the Gloster Meteor
Well that's something you don't everyday now is it.
yep it's most likely the only working Me 262
@smithgroove945 Four new-build and flyable Me-262s exist, and one restoration that has not been flown yet.
@@FiveCentsPlease Thanks, they sure are cool. A great what if. I enjoyed the video.
I would think that the 262 with the mod engines must have a higher top speed than the original
and a better endurance and range.
+@petefroehling8704 The GE engines have about 40% more power, but they operate them in a power band to equal the original Jumos. The extra power is there, but it can create some unsafe flying scenarios - single-engine out for example with little time for the pilot to react. The GE's can put the new Me-262s into the 600+ mph range (645 mph max if I recall) which is also not recommended per the airworthiness notes.
...and it works for more than an hour :D
NOT ONLY is this great to see my 3 favourite WWII aircraft all at once- but 3 STUNNINGLY SMOOTH LANDINGS- these pilots are clearly superb.
Hopefully Ted/Teddy enjoyed the display. I assume that he's house trained ? Greetings from Singapore.
Oiii oiii was amazing
I wonder how many 262s were shot down by Mustangs and Spitfires?
Mainly shot down coming into land 😊
@@robintasker9078 Yeah, I remember hearing that, but a few were shot down in combat, too. Specifically by P-51s and a Hawker I've never heard of. (I did a little research.)
Specific tactic by mustang and thunderbolts to attack at most vulnerable and slowest. Also tempests used but mainly USAAF. As they protected bomber streams and interjected airfields. 1944 saw a policy of active destruction of fighters
Hawker Tempests shot down Me262 when they were coming into land, a practice called "rat catching" as mentioned in Pierre Clostermann's 2 books. This came to an end though, when the Nazis set up anti aircraft guns at the 262's airfields.
@@phillipbanes5484Seems you don't know much about the 262. It wasn't a circling dogfighter but it was a formidable air superiority fighter. If used correctly, no piston fighter had a chance to shoot it down due to its speed. That's why the allied tactic was to hunt them around their airfields when they were most vulnerable. The few shot down in actual fighter to fighter air combat happened when inexperienced pilots let themselves get involved into dogfights. Or they were slowed down due to engine failures or other damages. The 262 airframe was miles ahead any Allied aircraft. The engines although very advanced in technology were troublesome for many reasons and the only real problem of the 262. Missing airbrakes was possibly another flaw in the design.
is it running jumo engines ? sounds a little different
+@yobb89 It is a new-build Me-262 with GE CJ610 turbines. Several were made. One restoration is using rebuilt Jumo turbines, but not flying just yet.
Is the Me-262 an original airframe or a recreation?
+@ronnelson7828 New-build aircraft with GE turbines. Four new flyable and one static were made.
@@FiveCentsPlease Sounds like the planes built at Paine Field in Everett Washington, down the road from the Boeing main assembly plant where all the 747's were built.
@@ronnelson7828 Yes, this is one from the project that went to the Messerschmitt Museum in Germany.
@@FiveCentsPlease I visited the shop twice while they were under construction. The second visit I took my father(RIP) who was a WW2 8th Air Force veteran. He almost never spoke of what he experienced during the war. He told the few staff present that during the last weeks of the fighting he was at freshly overrun airbases (in Germany I assume), that had many abandoned or wrecked German planes strewn about the field. Amongst them were several Me-262's, Dornier 335's, and other jets as well (Arado 234?, Heinkel 162?, Me163 rockets?) He said he was mostly interested in the jets, as he was a specialist propeller mechanic, and wondered how they worked without propellers. He spent quite some time inspecting the 262's, and the 335 with a prop on each end got some attention as well.
A replica
are historically accurate markings not allowed in England, or is the 262 from Germany?
+@craftbrewer4032 The plane is registered in Germany with the Messerschmitt Museum and the swastika has been illegal since WW2. And the Messerschmitt Museum paints their flying aircraft in generic colors rather than a fully marked aircraft.
The Me262 has been put together and made in Germany by the Messerschmitt Museum
Is it staying for the families day
It was meant to depart on Wednesday but is grounded at the moment due to a bird strike we believe
Maybe the allies should have been more worried about Germany being ahead with this technology than having an atomic bomb.. what a plane, revolutionary
You might want to research the Gloster Meteor
@@TedConingsby you are right, had not realized the meteor already was in service before the end of the war (only over Britain) , still, the meteor seems a bit of a brick compared to the sleek lines of the 262
Too bad the sound of those Marlins was masked by the chowderheads in the jets overhead.....
Side note' if Hitler did'nt mess with this design cos' he wanted a bomber we would have lost battle of britain , spit's & hurricans would have been shot out the sky by this jet .....