You are a criminally underrated channel. Keep this up you’ll go far I’m sure. Unique and refreshing in football social media. I’d suggest a video on my Maltese compatriot, Michael Mifsud.
Absolutely without question. This was simply wonderfully done with insight that’s extremely needed for younger audiences to understand. Seriously 👏 👏👏 Brilliant work!!
One of the reasons why we love the 90s football so much is that players were allowed to make mistakes/ take chances. Guardiola would kick you out of the team if you miss so many long shots and deep passes in a season as Veron did in those Boca seconds.
Proof is in the results. Pep's team was the best in history and the most fluid and mesmerizing to watch on top of the win-loss and goal differentials. Seeing so many top sides before and since then is like watching a girl throw an American football.
@@asnark7115tell me you have watched Barca highlights. without... Watch Ajax watch the Dutch side of 1974 watch Norwich City of 1994. Stop thinking you have a well developed understanding of football. Without knowledge.
@asnark7115 Nothing mesmerizing about pep play style Is just plan boring No flare no creativity No long ball Possession and positioning and short passes Also that’s wrong conception running around Barca team was very weak on defense they almost lost 7-1 vs inter 2010 And his city took years and years to flourish in Europe Even City didn’t have many competitor recent years in England and Europe just worst So many top notch teams have dropped from Veron era to pep era You remember opening the tv and you don’t know what game to watch cause every team have superstars and player worth to watch Now …
First football moment I can remember was Lambert winning champions league ! Thinking back, you had characters and guys you could relate to. As much as it's more professional now , it's boring 😂! These guys would destroy now adays players . I'd take Roy Keane over any midfielder playing now - i support city !!!! 🏴✌️ Then you have zanetti , zinisi ( yup wasn't attempting second name ) I miss real football
Only at the 20:00 mark but already thoroughly impressed by this one. You only seem to get better and this is one of your absolute best vids. The narration, the pacing, the personal notes, the imagery and the allround historical awareness are all simply top notch. Please keep it up, cause you deserve every view coming your way. You are making unique and great content. Love from a football fan from Amsterdam. PS I never felt annoyed during the Dundee video about Gould, so ignore the critiques from your fellow countrymen. As a Sportinguista, I loved that one as well!!
Veron was a truly brilliant player, majestically gifted. Brilliant to watch, the type of player this generation of midfielder try to emulate. Being a United fan I loved it when he moved to united, a Great signing. But him and Keane in the same midfield just didn’t hit off, all of Veron’s better games were partnered with the likes of Nicky Butt, or P.Neville. Scholes set loose further forward behind Ruud. And Seba to run the show. One memorable moment for me was Veron’s perfect pass for Diego Forlan against Chelsea, to win 2-1 in (03) which opened the way to the title. Great memories of a football Legend, Seba Veron.
i think he was a good player for united. it was just difficult to integrate him into that midfield and that must of affected his confidence. imagine coming into work and seeing paul scholes, one of the best midfielders in the world, in your position and thinking how am i ever going to to be able to force my way into this side. Then the media turned on him, in my opinion in a subverted racist tone due to his argentinian heritage, harking back ill feelings regarding the conflict in the 1980's. i think fergie tried to integrate with 5 in midfield but it affected the balance of the side to much and hence the reason he was sold on. to say he was a flop is unfair. respeto desde inglaterra señor veron!!!
agree he was great in his 2nd season especially in the UCL. Just got injured in the run in but still contributed well that season. Assist vs Chelsea and goals vs Arsenal come to mind.
speaking of the man utd transfer , its a habit of the British to make good players look bad even though they weren't that bad ... whereas they would always overhype some of their home grown talents ......
Thank u. Thats history of england. When they national team lose. They act like they r in shocked. How is this be. Half or the team played for man u or arsenal . Why? Please
Brilliant video, thanks for highlighting the quality of not just Veron but some of the players that have been forgotten about nowadays. If only the football of today was as exciting to watch
other worldly?jesus christ they were decent sides but cmon,niether even came close to a champions league,parma at close to their best barely knocked rangers out the uefa cup,a rangers team with bloody rod wallace up front who never ever even got a sniff of an england cap yet scored against parmas all star defence as did jorg albertz who never got a germany cap,serie A was a bore of a league with few goals you can tell this when hes explaining verons goals and assists for seasons both always being under ten,im sick of hearing how great football was back then compared to now cos it just aint true,id much rather watch an end to end premier league game with plenty goals than a bore one nil win from a tap in from an inzaghi brother in a half empty delli alpi covered in mist lol i know the lack of goals came from the league having some of the best defenders and defence minded coaches of all time but id take prime premier league over prime serie A anyday and thats still despite the likes of veron,rui costa,zidane,seedorf,davids,nakata,totti,baggio,batistuta,vieri,R9,del piero,cassano,chiesa,crespo,ravanelli,mancini,vialli,adriano,brolin,shevchenko and many other attackers having their best years there, u say other worldly so what would u call fiorentina,inter,milan,juve and roma then?not to mention barca,madrid,bayern,liverpool and man city from the 2010s onwards?christ even dortmund and athletico have had better teams than your other worldly ones,even tottenham monaco and porto have made champs league finals,and what would u call serial europa league winners sevilla if parma and lazio were other worldly?im genuinly interested in how u grade footballing achievement performance and greatness as after all it is just subjective and opinions?
When he heard he'd been approached by man utd, he thought Sheffield United had come in for him, the English team he supported as a kid and family played for. Brilliant
Thank you for this video. People wonder why Veron was my favorite player at one point. This video explains it. (I loved Ortega, too.) And yes, Parma had a dream team back then. That final vs Fiorentina... The kids today don't know real football. 25:00 both were also tenacious defenders. People seem to forget that. Your videos are so good. The story is there, but also some actual footage.
Excellent channel. Very informative and entertaining. I'm a barnsley fan so my coverage is very EFL-Centric, however it's great to get an insight into topics surrounding the Scottish game as it helps us Tykes see where the likes of Nicky Cadden, Luca Connell and Conor McCarthy came from and how they were moulded into the players they are now
Veron was easily one of the best of his generation, Riquelme had the edge on him but it is close , Argentina had some serious talent with Veron , Aimar, Riquelme, Gallardo, D’allesandro , some unreal talent.
Those late 90's early 2000's Lazio teams on Football Manager take me back. I was about 14 and always loved playing as Lazio. They had Peruzzi, Nesta, Mihajlović, Cuto, Sensini, Simeone, Nedvěd, Stanković, Verón, Claudio López, Salas, Crespo and even after them you had guys like Dino Baggio, Simone Inzaghi and Karel Poborský. It was a shocking amount of talent and it's a big what if of what they could have done if they'd stayed together. Nedved became the leader of a great Juventus team and he was behind Veron at Lazio. Nesta and Crespo were key pieces in Milan winning the CL in 2007. Stanković and Verón both played together in a very good Inter side. What could have been if they all just stayed together.
I remember when Utd signed him and I thought we would go on to dominate European football because he was just sensational in Italy just didn’t work in England
He was a very unique player.His range of passing was out of this world! If you remember before he moved to United Real Madrid was also trying to sign him.But the passport scandle pursueded them to look for another world class player at the time.And they sign Zizou.But what if Seba went to Laliga & Real Madrid? I believe he would have flourished to the maximum of his abilities.That Argentina Side at the 2002 WC was one of the most inform National Teams in history for two years prior to the tournament.But due to injuries(Seba was playing with an ankle injury & didn't recover well) & deep in form means a shocking exit from the tournament they were expected to win.Thanks for the Video!
Didn't realise I wasn't subscribed. I heard he did things in training that was pure magic.. some players can look great in training but in front of 80,000 fans is different.
United’s troubles of 2001/02 wasn’t the signing of Veron, it was the decision to let Jaap Stam leave that contributed to the season finish. Had he stayed just a season or two longer United would’ve seen the full fruits of his talents. No doubt.
Giggsy said he could do anything with the ball in training but his head went on match day. He was obviously a world class midfielder but he was competing with a prime Roy Keane and Paul Scholes at the time and was always gonna be compared to them at Utd
When i played championship manager 01/02 as a kid at united i built my team around Seba playing Scholes off Van nistlerooy and he was an animal every season lol
Veron in Argentina is the man forever tainted for his performance against England in the wc 2002 the vast majority there believes he threw the game even they call him Lord Veron due to that game if you see the game he made absolutely ridiculous decisions.
That's really interesting. Argentina haven't had much of a cultural influence on the world beyond football. Not many people know much about it beyond cow meat and cowboys, the tango, Falklands/Malvinas, Borges, Evita or their weird Welsh enclaves. There's not much to add on the subjects of the above, at least on a daily basis, so no wonder football is such an all encompassing passion.
Awesome video, first time stumbling along your channel. I'd love to see a video about another Argentine midfielder that reminds me of Veron, his name is Jaun Sebastian Riquelme.
Remember channel 5 in uk every Thursday wee would get football from different league's dutch Argentinian league even mls .. and weekend was Italian football with James Richardson but I remember watching players like aimar ortega salas Juan pablo angel who had been or went on to be big players in Europe. But boca had riquelme I loved the way he played like he was strolling controlling everything at his own pace .. the player's river plate and boca produced late 90s earlier 2000s they would be there then gone then next season there would be another young star brought up through the ranks d allasandro cavinagi.. big Martin palermo guy was a goal machine at boca guys like a young teves Delgado .. but palermo went to Spain broke his leg didn't work out .. one of the most underrated for me was ortega prime ortega was different class found out he had a alcohol problem but while at river plate I remember thinking this guys different class but his time in Italy.. other clubs guys like forlan remember striker Sebastian rozental he was another player injuries ruined him but if you seen him play before his injury he was class Claudio Lopez.. and that's only the attacking players therer was some great defenders that went on to have great careers but all came through river plate or boca jr youth systems the amount of talent from the 90s to early 2000s world class players.. but riquelme I'm glad he got another chance at villareal to show how talented he was after his bad stint at Barcelona getting played out of position. . Those two teams gave the world so many gifted players and the Dutch league ajax psv feynoord also to many to mention.. but now kids just talk about Messi and CR7 in the 90s there were so many amazing players world class talents not just two guys head above the rest . And now var 🫣 your team scores and you don't even want to celebrate because your used to then 6min later find out the guys finger made him offside so goal chopped off 🙄 football has changed
Ooh, there's a wee clip from Channel 4 in there, and I wish you'd have played the audio: Brackley and Wilkins when Mancini scores the winner: Brackley: "And that's a delightful dinked finish from MANCINI!" Wilkins: "You can't legislate for class." 👌
re: United. It seems Sir Alex was experimenting with a well-oiled midfield but he was probably right to. Difficult to imagine that team without Scholes (as with Giggs) though. I wonder if they could have all been more flexible about it. Veron was splendid at united, but perhaps the tactical change didn't really work
I know you covered it pretty well, but he was too light weight for the English game, yes he made some great assists and scored some fantastic goals, but went missing too often in big domestic games, In Europe, he was like another player, but certainly couldn’t handle the pace or physicality domestically.
From the telegraph, It's one of the links in the description: www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/05/06/alex-ferguson-rant-manchester-united-audio-idiots/
Didn't go well for him in England, though he was often MU's best player in the CL games. He was very good in Italy, but poor in his last season at Lazio, where he was a shadow of his former self.
Let's be honest. Veron was a good guy to have in your team but we can't just throw the title of great on every odd bloke like it's meaningless. Very good attitude? Definitely. Reads the game well? Pretty much. Very good at much else? No. Let's be honest. He did a lot but not exceptionally good at any of them, and just a tad above average at most skill task.
Veron have the passing of Xavi + Pirlo combined Do you get that ? He can run play 1-2 very good short passes He also a master in the long passes just like Pirlo He’s passes actually if you watched him with lazio ,parma and later inter (which you didn’t a typical EPL head) range is much much bigger than Pirlo and just as accurate Not to mention his physical strength And long distance strikes and free kicks Veron was world class It’s unfortunate people like you is the reason why he’s in the debate. Of one of the best midfielders ever which he was
Imo Zizou had better movement and finishing than Veron by a fair distance...both great players but Zizou was one of the best to ever lace up a pair of boots
i was really excited when man utd bought veron but they totally wasted him - alex ferguson tried to squeeze him into the team but veron is the sort of player who can control games-you have to build the team around him- i do not understand why they bought him-ferguson was a great manager but he made a big mistake with veron-same with tevez and berbatev, both brilliant players but they were both used as second choice players to ronaldo and rooney- he seemed to buy them just to stop other teams buying them- and diego forlan , a brilliant player, was not given enough time-they sold him and he went on to great things-
Very true Very good post Although In forlan case he just struggled in very good era of strikers Forlan , berbatov , anelka , milito , Robbie keane kinda got the short end of the stick in that era (for the most part ), around that time Nistrlerooy was unbelievable in man United Every big team in Europe have very very talented strikers unlike today /last 15 years We had maybe 5 good strikers in the world The big 4 in England Arsenal got Henry bergkamp , van persie Man United got Ruud ,Rooney ,Ole gunner York and Andy Cole prior to that and shringham Chelsea got drogba ,crespo , Gudjohnsen I’m sure they also bought kezman and mutu in one point and both of them was extremely good in their previous clubs They even got Hasselbaink prior to that Liverpool was lacking possibly the only big team in Europe that was lacking but they also got the chance to buy anelka and they didn’t who was another unbelievable striker And they got Owen and Fowler prior to that Italy Milan shevshenko , inzaghi , tomasson ,gilardino Inter , vieri and Adriano (Recoba as super sub) Roma ;Montella Totti and cassano Juve ; del piero , trezeguet and zlatan who later went to inter No matter where you go all big teams have some of the best strikers Forlan and anelka got to shine later in their career so a milito when he was near his 30’s
I disagree with the title of this video…a flop in the premier no…disappointing yes but had some very very good performances,the English game being so tight and fast paced didn’t suit his game,hence he found it difficult,he showed his true class for Man Utd in the Champions League without doubt,finding more room and space..back to being the Prems biggest flop..I simply say…D Maria 👌most definitely a bigger flop !
At his time nobody said Scholes was the level of Veron, Nedved, Zidane, Figo, or even Beckham, nowadays Premier league and England fans tries to portrait their football history as the most important and their past players as the best , which is not accurate Historically, at that time the premier league was behind Serie A and on Par with La liga and Budesliga, and Scholes was never mentioned before Veron.
@cacbdb Absolutely on point Just like xavi too People wanna made you believe that Xavi was unbelievable since day 1 when he played in 1998 and he’s on zidane level or some BS When in reality xavi flourished in 2008 Almost 10 years after his debut Around that time he wasn’t even mentioned around some of the named you mentioned Even deco , ronaldinho , Rui costa ,Gerrard ,was miles ahead of scholes and xavi Early 2000’s Now kids think Veron was average player and no where the level of xavi Which’s just hilarious
A little biased to frame him as a mistreated player at United. You completed skipped analysis of his time at Chelsea by just conveniently blaming Jose, at which his time there was even worse than at United. He was basically what Pogba also was a decade later - expensive transfer and wages that weren't justified by short patches of good form, constantly needing a free role without needing to graft in defence, supported by 2 hardworking midfielders in a slower paced league. Simply an undoubtedly talented player just not good enough to play in an English club, although with far better attitude than Pogba which allowed him to enjoy a longer career.
not sure where in my video I did any of these things - framing him as mistreated or skipping analysis of his time at chelsea. He played fifteen games for them mate, I said he was an expensive failure there, and I mention he was beset with back injuries. Not sure what video you were watching
I think 1969 2010 2016 2017 1994 was way shittier, that era had the 2006 squad Under Jose Nestor Pekerman that was amazing and played some great football too, sadly Veron wasnt a part of that, in 2002 they just went shit I agree
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You are a criminally underrated channel. Keep this up you’ll go far I’m sure. Unique and refreshing in football social media. I’d suggest a video on my Maltese compatriot, Michael Mifsud.
I agree. Very high quality. And enjoyable / informative.
Absolutely without question. This was simply wonderfully done with insight that’s extremely needed for younger audiences to understand. Seriously 👏 👏👏 Brilliant work!!
One of the reasons why we love the 90s football so much is that players were allowed to make mistakes/ take chances. Guardiola would kick you out of the team if you miss so many long shots and deep passes in a season as Veron did in those Boca seconds.
Proof is in the results. Pep's team was the best in history and the most fluid and mesmerizing to watch on top of the win-loss and goal differentials. Seeing so many top sides before and since then is like watching a girl throw an American football.
@@asnark7115tell me you have watched Barca highlights. without... Watch Ajax watch the Dutch side of 1974 watch Norwich City of 1994. Stop thinking you have a well developed understanding of football. Without knowledge.
@@asnark7115they got an argument like though others will argue 90s 00s there was more competition 😊
@@asnark7115peps teams really aren’t mesmerizing bruey are controlled and robot like. Of course messi was amazing, but peps teams are pretty boring
@asnark7115
Nothing mesmerizing about pep play style
Is just plan boring
No flare no creativity
No long ball
Possession and positioning and short passes
Also that’s wrong conception running around Barca team was very weak on defense they almost lost 7-1 vs inter 2010
And his city took years and years to flourish in Europe
Even City didn’t have many competitor recent years in England and Europe just worst
So many top notch teams have dropped from Veron era to pep era
You remember opening the tv and you don’t know what game to watch cause every team have superstars and player worth to watch
Now …
Man, watching these guys, football was fun back then, don't get the same exciting feelings when I watch football of today, it has gone down.
Same here football ain't Great no more. 90's was a Great Era .
First football moment I can remember was Lambert winning champions league ! Thinking back, you had characters and guys you could relate to. As much as it's more professional now , it's boring 😂! These guys would destroy now adays players . I'd take Roy Keane over any midfielder playing now - i support city !!!! 🏴✌️ Then you have zanetti , zinisi ( yup wasn't attempting second name ) I miss real football
Football is too robotic now. It's all system system system. Football has lost its raw talent, soul and passion
its way more professional now and players dont take any risks afraid of loosing their spot or being injured. theres no room for magic players anymore.
me too. but watching these highlights i can tell the game has evolved a lot and became faster. sadly players have less time to think and be creative.
Only at the 20:00 mark but already thoroughly impressed by this one. You only seem to get better and this is one of your absolute best vids. The narration, the pacing, the personal notes, the imagery and the allround historical awareness are all simply top notch. Please keep it up, cause you deserve every view coming your way. You are making unique and great content. Love from a football fan from Amsterdam.
PS I never felt annoyed during the Dundee video about Gould, so ignore the critiques from your fellow countrymen. As a Sportinguista, I loved that one as well!!
Veron was a truly brilliant player, majestically gifted. Brilliant to watch, the type of player this generation of midfielder try to emulate. Being a United fan I loved it when he moved to united, a Great signing. But him and Keane in the same midfield just didn’t hit off, all of Veron’s better games were partnered with the likes of Nicky Butt, or P.Neville. Scholes set loose further forward behind Ruud. And Seba to run the show. One memorable moment for me was Veron’s perfect pass for Diego Forlan against Chelsea, to win 2-1 in (03) which opened the way to the title. Great memories of a football Legend, Seba Veron.
Veron is one of the greatest midfielders in football history. none of the ridiculous criticisms he received have any value. he was truly amazing
In football history? That's a bit extra
Well said mate. For sure, one of the best where he played, with Zidane...
@@mojebi3804His passes were alien like extraordinary, his accomplishments with a small club like Parma cannot be ignored either.
Excellent video! This has really made me re-evaluate my view on Verons time at Old Trafford, you forget how much of a Serie A beast midfielder he was.
i think he was a good player for united. it was just difficult to integrate him into that midfield and that must of affected his confidence. imagine coming into work and seeing paul scholes, one of the best midfielders in the world, in your position and thinking how am i ever going to to be able to force my way into this side. Then the media turned on him, in my opinion in a subverted racist tone due to his argentinian heritage, harking back ill feelings regarding the conflict in the 1980's. i think fergie tried to integrate with 5 in midfield but it affected the balance of the side to much and hence the reason he was sold on. to say he was a flop is unfair. respeto desde inglaterra señor veron!!!
agree he was great in his 2nd season especially in the UCL. Just got injured in the run in but still contributed well that season. Assist vs Chelsea and goals vs Arsenal come to mind.
speaking of the man utd transfer , its a habit of the British to make good players look bad even though they weren't that bad ... whereas they would always overhype some of their home grown talents ......
Thank u. Thats history of england. When they national team lose. They act like they r in shocked. How is this be. Half or the team played for man u or arsenal . Why? Please
Brilliant video, thanks for highlighting the quality of not just Veron but some of the players that have been forgotten about nowadays. If only the football of today was as exciting to watch
Those Parma and Lazio sides were other worldly at times. Veron was a worldie of a player there. The English media though did what they do
other worldly?jesus christ they were decent sides but cmon,niether even came close to a champions league,parma at close to their best barely knocked rangers out the uefa cup,a rangers team with bloody rod wallace up front who never ever even got a sniff of an england cap yet scored against parmas all star defence as did jorg albertz who never got a germany cap,serie A was a bore of a league with few goals you can tell this when hes explaining verons goals and assists for seasons both always being under ten,im sick of hearing how great football was back then compared to now cos it just aint true,id much rather watch an end to end premier league game with plenty goals than a bore one nil win from a tap in from an inzaghi brother in a half empty delli alpi covered in mist lol i know the lack of goals came from the league having some of the best defenders and defence minded coaches of all time but id take prime premier league over prime serie A anyday and thats still despite the likes of veron,rui costa,zidane,seedorf,davids,nakata,totti,baggio,batistuta,vieri,R9,del piero,cassano,chiesa,crespo,ravanelli,mancini,vialli,adriano,brolin,shevchenko and many other attackers having their best years there, u say other worldly so what would u call fiorentina,inter,milan,juve and roma then?not to mention barca,madrid,bayern,liverpool and man city from the 2010s onwards?christ even dortmund and athletico have had better teams than your other worldly ones,even tottenham monaco and porto have made champs league finals,and what would u call serial europa league winners sevilla if parma and lazio were other worldly?im genuinly interested in how u grade footballing achievement performance and greatness as after all it is just subjective and opinions?
When he heard he'd been approached by man utd, he thought Sheffield United had come in for him, the English team he supported as a kid and family played for. Brilliant
Also the team Maradona nearly signed for.
Thank you, greetings from La Plata, Argentina!
Thank you for this video. People wonder why Veron was my favorite player at one point. This video explains it. (I loved Ortega, too.)
And yes, Parma had a dream team back then. That final vs Fiorentina... The kids today don't know real football.
25:00 both were also tenacious defenders. People seem to forget that.
Your videos are so good. The story is there, but also some actual footage.
He was ridiculously good. He just didn't suit a great team already incredibly functional. But a mesmerising player. At Lazio especially.
i love this channel so much man. gives such a great insight and context for players and their careers who I never got to watch
Excellent channel. Very informative and entertaining. I'm a barnsley fan so my coverage is very EFL-Centric, however it's great to get an insight into topics surrounding the Scottish game as it helps us Tykes see where the likes of Nicky Cadden, Luca Connell and Conor McCarthy came from and how they were moulded into the players they are now
Wow, truly stunned how good this documentary is, brilliant stuff about a brilliant player. One of my all time favourites of the nineties
A big thank you for the memories and history lesson! Keep em coming ✌️
Mate, these vids are brilliant ❤
Really appreciate the effort gone into making these videos.
Veron was easily one of the best of his generation, Riquelme had the edge on him but it is close , Argentina had some serious talent with Veron , Aimar, Riquelme, Gallardo, D’allesandro , some unreal talent.
Those late 90's early 2000's Lazio teams on Football Manager take me back. I was about 14 and always loved playing as Lazio. They had Peruzzi, Nesta, Mihajlović, Cuto, Sensini, Simeone, Nedvěd, Stanković, Verón, Claudio López, Salas, Crespo and even after them you had guys like Dino Baggio, Simone Inzaghi and Karel Poborský. It was a shocking amount of talent and it's a big what if of what they could have done if they'd stayed together. Nedved became the leader of a great Juventus team and he was behind Veron at Lazio. Nesta and Crespo were key pieces in Milan winning the CL in 2007. Stanković and Verón both played together in a very good Inter side. What could have been if they all just stayed together.
Loving the videos
Glad you like them man! :)
Great video; storytelling, images, insight. Really well done.
Loving these videos, I like that you're doing longer ones now that are basically like documentaries. Keep it up fella!
This is best channel atm. Youre insane. I would pay for daily content.
I remember when Utd signed him and I thought we would go on to dominate European football because he was just sensational in Italy just didn’t work in England
Absolutely brilliant quote captured for the very end! Great line to finish the video. Bravo 👏
He was a very unique player.His range of passing was out of this world! If you remember before he moved to United Real Madrid was also trying to sign him.But the passport scandle pursueded them to look for another world class player at the time.And they sign Zizou.But what if Seba went to Laliga & Real Madrid? I believe he would have flourished to the maximum of his abilities.That Argentina Side at the 2002 WC was one of the most inform National Teams in history for two years prior to the tournament.But due to injuries(Seba was playing with an ankle injury & didn't recover well) & deep in form means a shocking exit from the tournament they were expected to win.Thanks for the Video!
love your uploads man, looking forward to so many more ❤
Another fantastic video. Please upload more regularly!
Honestly TH-cam has been shit honestly keep making videos really enjoy your content
Didn't realise I wasn't subscribed. I heard he did things in training that was pure magic.. some players can look great in training but in front of 80,000 fans is different.
Veron wasn’t a flop at United no way
Was he a success did he nail down a place?
@@gordonferrar7782 82 games played in 2 years
United’s troubles of 2001/02 wasn’t the signing of Veron, it was the decision to let Jaap Stam leave that contributed to the season finish. Had he stayed just a season or two longer United would’ve seen the full fruits of his talents. No doubt.
@@whiskeyboystve couldn’t have put it any better 👊
Giggsy said he could do anything with the ball in training but his head went on match day. He was obviously a world class midfielder but he was competing with a prime Roy Keane and Paul Scholes at the time and was always gonna be compared to them at Utd
Very underrated channel
Amazing content dude ! Cant believe this is free !
When i played championship manager 01/02 as a kid at united i built my team around Seba playing Scholes off Van nistlerooy and he was an animal every season lol
Veron in Argentina is the man forever tainted for his performance against England in the wc 2002 the vast majority there believes he threw the game even they call him Lord Veron due to that game if you see the game he made absolutely ridiculous decisions.
that wc was awful for Argentina, but the reasons can NEVER be one man
That's really interesting. Argentina haven't had much of a cultural influence on the world beyond football.
Not many people know much about it beyond cow meat and cowboys, the tango, Falklands/Malvinas, Borges, Evita or their weird Welsh enclaves. There's not much to add on the subjects of the above, at least on a daily basis, so no wonder football is such an all encompassing passion.
just discovered your channel, and cant stop watching.... could you please do a video about john barnes' time as celtic manager?
Awesome video, first time stumbling along your channel. I'd love to see a video about another Argentine midfielder that reminds me of Veron, his name is Jaun Sebastian Riquelme.
Remember channel 5 in uk every Thursday wee would get football from different league's dutch Argentinian league even mls .. and weekend was Italian football with James Richardson but I remember watching players like aimar ortega salas Juan pablo angel who had been or went on to be big players in Europe. But boca had riquelme I loved the way he played like he was strolling controlling everything at his own pace .. the player's river plate and boca produced late 90s earlier 2000s they would be there then gone then next season there would be another young star brought up through the ranks d allasandro cavinagi.. big Martin palermo guy was a goal machine at boca guys like a young teves Delgado .. but palermo went to Spain broke his leg didn't work out .. one of the most underrated for me was ortega prime ortega was different class found out he had a alcohol problem but while at river plate I remember thinking this guys different class but his time in Italy.. other clubs guys like forlan remember striker Sebastian rozental he was another player injuries ruined him but if you seen him play before his injury he was class Claudio Lopez.. and that's only the attacking players therer was some great defenders that went on to have great careers but all came through river plate or boca jr youth systems the amount of talent from the 90s to early 2000s world class players.. but riquelme I'm glad he got another chance at villareal to show how talented he was after his bad stint at Barcelona getting played out of position. . Those two teams gave the world so many gifted players and the Dutch league ajax psv feynoord also to many to mention.. but now kids just talk about Messi and CR7 in the 90s there were so many amazing players world class talents not just two guys head above the rest . And now var 🫣 your team scores and you don't even want to celebrate because your used to then 6min later find out the guys finger made him offside so goal chopped off 🙄 football has changed
Juan Roman Riquelme, not Juan Sebastián
@@nachoalvarez7171 thanks
Lubo video mate,do it
Great video 🔥
That Middlesbrough match was my first game ever at Old Trafford and I remember this day that it was Veron to give the ball away!
What a video mate. Love this.
What a BALLER!!! LEGEND!!!
Arsenal didn't win 3-0 at Old Trafford it was 1-0. It was also the result that mathematically clinched the title.
Brilliant mate well done 👏🏻
Great as always 🎉
Serie A in the 80's , 90's and first decade of 2k was amazing sorry for the ones didnt live this days of magic!
brilliantly done this, bravo
Good content keep it up mate
Ooh, there's a wee clip from Channel 4 in there, and I wish you'd have played the audio: Brackley and Wilkins when Mancini scores the winner:
Brackley: "And that's a delightful dinked finish from MANCINI!"
Wilkins: "You can't legislate for class." 👌
A fucking great video!
re: United. It seems Sir Alex was experimenting with a well-oiled midfield but he was probably right to. Difficult to imagine that team without Scholes (as with Giggs) though. I wonder if they could have all been more flexible about it.
Veron was splendid at united, but perhaps the tactical change didn't really work
McJell needs to watch this
That Parma team and kit though 🤩🤩
Him, scholes & xavi are proof that stats are absolute bollocks unless you are an out and out striker. Then it makes more sense
The pass BEFORE the assist 👍
I loved this guy’s style of play, the modern game simply doesn’t allow for a player like this anymore.
38:28 Arsenal only won 0-1 not "3 nil".
Best passer of a ball I’ve ever seen
McJelll, I summon you🫡🫡
Have you done a video on Mo Johnston?
When Rangers managed to hold THAT Parma in Europe even my Celtic mates celebrated. When I saw that line-up again, I pinched myself.
I know you covered it pretty well, but he was too light weight for the English game, yes he made some great assists and scored some fantastic goals, but went missing too often in big domestic games, In Europe, he was like another player, but certainly couldn’t handle the pace or physicality domestically.
Is the Ferguson rant abot veron available on youtube?
From the telegraph, It's one of the links in the description: www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/05/06/alex-ferguson-rant-manchester-united-audio-idiots/
This is a fuck.... great video!
between 99-2001 he was the best player in the world hands down ...
Veron was class. The premier league just wasn't the place for him back then
amazing video
WTF was that goal from C. Lopez :O
Didn't go well for him in England, though he was often MU's best player in the CL games. He was very good in Italy, but poor in his last season at Lazio, where he was a shadow of his former self.
Great video but didn’t Arsenal win 1-0 with that infamous wiltord goal
World class player
Veron was actually good at United. Just got an injury towards the end.
Just sad he didn’t work out at Man Utd. Sir Alex really tried.
Let's be honest. Veron was a good guy to have in your team but we can't just throw the title of great on every odd bloke like it's meaningless. Very good attitude? Definitely. Reads the game well? Pretty much. Very good at much else? No. Let's be honest. He did a lot but not exceptionally good at any of them, and just a tad above average at most skill task.
He’s was an incredible passer of the ball, really skilful, and great dribbling out of tight spaces. Unreal touch at times.
Give you head a wobble
English fans are consistently the worst. Just because a player didn’t do well in England doesn’t mean he’s not a great player.
Veron have the passing of
Xavi + Pirlo combined
Do you get that ?
He can run play 1-2 very good short passes
He also a master in the long passes just like Pirlo
He’s passes actually if you watched him with lazio ,parma and later inter (which you didn’t a typical EPL head) range is much much bigger than Pirlo and just as accurate
Not to mention his physical strength
And long distance strikes and free kicks
Veron was world class
It’s unfortunate people like you is the reason why he’s in the debate. Of one of the best midfielders ever which he was
He was a donkey @@badsolja1
Imo Zizou had better movement and finishing than Veron by a fair distance...both great players but Zizou was one of the best to ever lace up a pair of boots
away goal in final is stupid, but actually in play offs it degrade the play quality imho
make a vid about alvaro recoba
i was really excited when man utd bought veron but they totally wasted him - alex ferguson tried to squeeze him into the team but veron is the sort of player who can control games-you have to build the team around him- i do not understand why they bought him-ferguson was a great manager but he made a big mistake with veron-same with tevez and berbatev, both brilliant players but they were both used as second choice players to ronaldo and rooney- he seemed to buy them just to stop other teams buying them- and diego forlan , a brilliant player, was not given enough time-they sold him and he went on to great things-
Very true
Very good post
Although In forlan case he just struggled in very good era of strikers
Forlan , berbatov , anelka , milito , Robbie keane kinda got the short end of the stick in that era (for the most part ), around that time
Nistrlerooy was unbelievable in man United
Every big team in Europe have very very talented strikers unlike today /last 15 years
We had maybe 5 good strikers in the world
The big 4 in England
Arsenal got Henry bergkamp , van persie
Man United got Ruud ,Rooney ,Ole gunner
York and Andy Cole prior to that and shringham
Chelsea got drogba ,crespo , Gudjohnsen
I’m sure they also bought kezman and mutu in one point and both of them was extremely good in their previous clubs
They even got Hasselbaink prior to that
Liverpool was lacking possibly the only big team in Europe that was lacking but they also got the chance to buy anelka and they didn’t who was another unbelievable striker
And they got Owen and Fowler prior to that
Italy
Milan shevshenko , inzaghi , tomasson ,gilardino
Inter , vieri and Adriano (Recoba as super sub)
Roma ;Montella Totti and cassano
Juve ; del piero , trezeguet and zlatan who later went to inter
No matter where you go all big teams have some of the best strikers
Forlan and anelka got to shine later in their career so a milito when he was near his 30’s
Yeah premiership legend ask anyone 😉
Essien next!
ADN, ESTUDIANTES DE LA PLATA................................................... The End!!
Please do del piero mate @flashbackfootball
我唯一真正喜欢过的足球明星就是贝隆。
Riquelme ?
Good player sure , but compared to otamendi he didnt bring home the world cup
I disagree with the title of this video…a flop in the premier no…disappointing yes but had some very very good performances,the English game being so tight and fast paced didn’t suit his game,hence he found it difficult,he showed his true class for Man Utd in the Champions League without doubt,finding more room and space..back to being the Prems biggest flop..I simply say…D Maria 👌most definitely a bigger flop !
Veron best form ever is in lazio in my opinion...
So basically in England he missed the peds that gave them there energy. Its no secret they were all doped up
Embarassed himself in England.
barthez was a terrible keeper man what are u smoking?
Ming
The problem at united for him was Paul scholes. He was twice the player veron was.
At his time nobody said Scholes was the level of Veron, Nedved, Zidane, Figo, or even Beckham, nowadays Premier league and England fans tries to portrait their football history as the most important and their past players as the best , which is not accurate Historically, at that time the premier league was behind Serie A and on Par with La liga and Budesliga, and Scholes was never mentioned before Veron.
@cacbdb
Absolutely on point
Just like xavi too
People wanna made you believe that Xavi was unbelievable since day 1 when he played in 1998 and he’s on zidane level or some BS
When in reality xavi flourished in 2008
Almost 10 years after his debut
Around that time he wasn’t even mentioned around some of the named you mentioned
Even deco , ronaldinho , Rui costa ,Gerrard ,was miles ahead of scholes and xavi
Early 2000’s
Now kids think Veron was average player and no where the level of xavi
Which’s just hilarious
A little biased to frame him as a mistreated player at United. You completed skipped analysis of his time at Chelsea by just conveniently blaming Jose, at which his time there was even worse than at United. He was basically what Pogba also was a decade later - expensive transfer and wages that weren't justified by short patches of good form, constantly needing a free role without needing to graft in defence, supported by 2 hardworking midfielders in a slower paced league. Simply an undoubtedly talented player just not good enough to play in an English club, although with far better attitude than Pogba which allowed him to enjoy a longer career.
not sure where in my video I did any of these things - framing him as mistreated or skipping analysis of his time at chelsea. He played fifteen games for them mate, I said he was an expensive failure there, and I mention he was beset with back injuries. Not sure what video you were watching
That Argentina side of the Crespo and Veron era was the most stiff-legged and unimaginative of any ARG era. They will likely never be that bad again.
You are forgetting Batistuta, Ortega, Zanetti. Stop talking. You love Messi and thats fine but don't talk shite.
I think 1969 2010 2016 2017 1994 was way shittier, that era had the 2006 squad Under Jose Nestor Pekerman that was amazing and played some great football too, sadly Veron wasnt a part of that, in 2002 they just went shit I agree
Complete failure at utd
Roy Keane was better than both veron and Zidane at that period
He was dirt to slow stiff like a little small old man was badly found out at utd total trash